what this video has taught me is how roadhog is the strongest tank. if he can withstand Zarya's 2,002,147.5 °C beam for a solid 5 seconds at 100% charge, holy his skin and take a breather must have a stronger healing factor than any known fictional character + no amour
-Zarya ingame: pew-pew-pew Ogon' po gotovnosti -Zarya scientific accurate: evaporates eyes, water, atmosphere nearby by shooting for a fraction of second
Batman built the final batsuit to solo the entire justice league and fight God-God by simply setting superman up for the greatest sucker punch of all time
@@anguswaterhouse9255Yeah and one time squirrel girl beat thanos. Powerscaling Comics is impossible if you dont specify, Eeeey the penny plunderer is Outerversal in strenght cuz he survived a single punch from batman who beat superman who can exit fiction. THIS is a normal power scaling comics
Yes. For most games, especially games like Overwatch, it would be like fighting a losing battle, hence making it pointless to even begin to rationalise/make sense of some or all things in the game.
Now I want to see a "realistic overwatch" video where someone somehow programs every entity, from even a breakable railing to a player, to follow her ult while it's also midair. It's probably impossible to do that, especially w the railings, idk how possible it would be for programming even the players. But it'd be fun to see
i never thought in all my years that i would be reminded of physical chemistry while watching a fucking overwatch video. bravo, man. your content is amazing.
it would be cool if lucios gun had a similar effect to his healing but inverse, this would be more realistic and it would encourage lucio to get in close Imigane a reaper lucio combo in this case, it would be awesome
In my opinion, the plasma is just a medium for the particles (gravitons, i guess, they are hypothetical, though). The beam causes damage when ordinary matter is saturated with it. The range of the particle cannon is determined by focal point of the beam. Graviton Surge is actually a black hole, that is forming when a big clump of gravitons meets dense matter. This small black hole only lives for a short time due to Hawking radiation, its size is just an optical illusion. So my vote is for 6000 °C.
I said its size is just an optical illusion because according to the Overwatch wiki, the radius of the Graviton Surge projectile is 0.2m or 200mm, but the Schwarzschild radius of the Earth is only 8.87mm. This means that a black hole with a radius of 200mm would have to be 22.55 times heavier than the Earth itself, which would be impossible. But we can assume that the actual size of the projectile is much smaller and it's just an optical illusion due to the gravitational lens effect and the warping of the air around it.
My issue of the video is the assumption of railings which only gets mentioned at 12:21, Railings are all pre-scored to break and also those results will vary client to client. My recommendation for figuring out energy output: Blackboards that spin (Gibraltar) Swing in Paris (Can add players onto it for variable weighted load)
its really funny that he says "this whole thing is based on a lot of assumptions and is easily wrong" and all the comments are "NO DUDE YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW WRONG YOU ARE!!1"
The TF2 mercs have toon force and plot armor, so It would be a comically close fight. Something like roadhog and heavy beating each other over their heads taking lunch breaks until they both drop from exhaustion at the exact same moment. Power-scaling is fun :)
@@dr.cheeze5382 TF2 mercs have wall level, TF2 bosses have building level. Meanwhile, average OW character is literally god with unlimited physical strength
@@zappyapp I mean... to an extent? But I'd argue that for most characters this power is near nonexistent and/or overshadowed by plot armour. But when it comes to the tf2 and ow characters, I think it's pretty clear they have a lot of it.
so my personal head canon was that the beam is the Accretion disk of the black hole in the muddle of the gun. using insanely powerful magnets (which would be crazy heavy/dense ) it would also allow her to manipulate the field to absorb and redirect it into the black hole. Her bubbles aren't destroying what's she's shot with. its using it as like a catalyst. increasing its its size and the accretion disk and therefore her dmg.
The fact that so many other neccecary things need to be assumed, like how zarya can just breath in space, or how every hero in the game can punch fast enough to generate the heat that this cannon does
The moon colony must have generated an atmosphere for the moon, otherwise how would characters survive going outside? Also, all characters break the railings the same. What about breaking metal railings? What was the point of calculating a rate of heating if you were going to assume that the heat was constant and there was no change in heat?
In the lore, the moon has no atmosphere. But in gameplay, all characters are capable of exiting Horizon Lunar Horizon and traversing the lunar surface without taking damage over time or just plain dying from suffocation. Thus, using a gameplay quirk (Zarya being able to go outside on the moon and shoot her beam) to inform that her particle canon cannot be shooting particles is just bad logic. Using the same logic, if characters are outside on the moon with no space suits for life support, all characters must be capable of breathing on the moon/it must have an atmosphere. We know this isn't true. Gameplay logic ≠ Lore logic In the same vein‚ literally every single character can one-punch break all railings of all different compositions in-game. Using that piece of gameplay (shattering concrete railings) to then decide the power of Zarya's beam is just bad logic, because by that logic characters like 62 year old Ana Amari and 19 year old Hana Seong (outside her MEKA suit) are punching concrete railings with enough force that they shatter exactly the same way with at least the same power as one tick of Zarya's beam. But we know that in the lore, no one outside Doomfist is punching with the kind of power Zarya's particle cannon is outputting. Also, concrete typically only contains between 2.5 - 6% water by weight. To instantly shatter the concrete from flash boiling all water within it, you would have to instantly bring the entire slab/railing to that temperature. We see in the cinematics that not even the larger Mech Suit or Null Sector versions of her cannon can do that (it instantly slices through metal with pinpoint accuracy in Infiltration and through asphalt with pinpoint accuracy in the Zero Hour cinematic). And regardless of if her beam was particle or plasma in nature, heat distribution would occur at the point of impact and then radiate outward. At temperatures of 2 million degrees celsius, it would sooner punch a hole straight through the concrete at the point of contact (like in lore) than saturate the entire slab with heat and explode it, evidenced by how the more powerful variants of her cannon function in Overwatch canon). And even if Zarya's beam manages to instantly and with 1:1 efficiency transfer all of its heat into all of the concrete at once, the concrete exploding depends entirely on the percentage of water content within the concrete. Using the concrete as the starting point for energy calculations was not the right move, but the video was fun nonetheless
Illari's healing beam also insta explodes any concrete railing the same way zarya's weapon does. Does that mean that Illari's beam is as strong as Zarya's beam and so it has the same temperature? And somehow one heals you while the other melts you?
@@ZerohFaultWell the proof that it’s not a particle cannon also wouldn’t work since all the characters can breath normally in that area without a helmet, so must contain breathable gas.
I don't know if this is a bad thing, but I couldn't stop myself from criticizing your logic. I'm glad that you mentioned the roughness of the method, and I would love to discuss future methods if you want. That being said, I have almost no expertise in the field of science besides learning science heavy subjects that I'm interested in.
I mean I would have just ruled it out as videogame magic/logic but I really appreciate you making a final physics exam-tier problem. Also, whoever got contracted to build the railings totally ripped them off.
This is why I'm a zarya main. Not because I know how to utilize her abilities or her ult, not because I find her more fun than the other tanks. It's because she fires a planet-cracking death ray from the hip.
You forgot that the concrete barrier is not just experiencing heat from the beam, but also radiating itself and having convective heat transfer with the surrounding atmosphere. This means that energy required is even bigger, thus the beam even hotter.
This reminded me of an ooold video from like 2016 by shoddycast in which he calculated the kinetic energy of the beam by seing how it moves the gold bars in Dorado defenders spawn (assuming they weight the same as an IRL gold bar), which also led him to the conclusion that it is heat based, as it didn't have a lot of kinetic energy. He then calculated the kinetic energy to heat conversion from Zarya Blocking damage, but If I remember correctly didn't land on a specific temperature either. Anyway, great video.
0:55 Sigma literally alters the effects of gravity within a specific zone of space and wields mini black holes, which are black holes, and you can tell this because upon impact or expiration they do move items around. Similarly to Zarya's Graviton Surge. Meaning that is also quite literally a miniature black hole. This is a fictional universe.
"i walked 2 times around the map and then stood afk for 28 hours so whats the cannon meaning behind my character running that much and then standing still for 28 hours"
This video was made for fun and not to be taken lore seriously. Everything is taken from gameplay and games are made to entertain you We all know the game engine doesn't follow laws of physics
I don’t think the concrete railing experiment makes sense since all weapons break the railing in the same way. A melee hit from any character would do the same damage as junkrat’s tire by that logic.
I think the beam is blueish purple. Often times in those sorts of artstyles you have to use a white middle to better portray something is glowing bright.
There’s just something satisfying about having an Australian man waste his life doing maths to try to rationalise video game/kid’s movie logic. This should become a genre, shame this vid isn’t named “The absolute HOTNESS of Zarya’s beam” so we can add it to the collection
what this video has taught me is how roadhog is the strongest tank. if he can withstand Zarya's 2,002,147.5 °C beam for a solid 5 seconds at 100% charge, holy his skin and take a breather must have a stronger healing factor than any known fictional character + no amour
Hog’s from Australia, he’s been through worse.
@@VenompoolXR lmao
Hog get the skin cancer due this experience sadly...
ramattra block
but can he beat Goku Tho
To be fair, torb's hammer can also obliterate a concrete railing. So he'd basically be Hephaestus if he could swing a hammer with that force.
Every characters hand can too, so technically, they all do more burning damage to each other with melee attacks and the like
@@johnnyjohn9300 yeah I stopped watching when he was using this as a point😂
@@hihi9434you stoped watching and jumped to the comments?
@@nigelxd3735 same. Its a dumb argument
Moira: You've been awfully quiet today, Dr. de Kuiper.
Sigma's brain: *this video*
When sigma asks what that melody is, its just Camp's voice.
lmao
Lore accurate
Sigma literally denounces this entire video from the 0:50 mark onward lmaoo
-Zarya ingame:
pew-pew-pew Ogon' po gotovnosti
-Zarya scientific accurate:
evaporates eyes, water, atmosphere nearby by shooting for a fraction of second
"It costs over 1 billion lives to shoot this beam... for 1 second" -Zarya the Hoovy
This is the logic powerscalers use to justify batman is outerversal
Batman built the final batsuit to solo the entire justice league and fight God-God by simply setting superman up for the greatest sucker punch of all time
@@anguswaterhouse9255Yeah and one time squirrel girl beat thanos.
Powerscaling Comics is impossible if you dont specify, Eeeey the penny plunderer is Outerversal in strenght cuz he survived a single punch from batman who beat superman who can exit fiction. THIS is a normal power scaling comics
Yh it all depends on the writers
Power scalers on their way to turn an average anime character into a hyper outerversal because they reacted to a laser
comics’s powerscaling makes it one of the most genuinely boring medias you could possibly get into
Even just 20 seconds in, your editing style is mesmerising! You're gonna go places mate. Keep up the great work.
Its good editing but not unique. Seen it in other overwatch youtubers
@@zaorth7851 still cool tho
@@salvatore2004honestly kinda nice tbh. Marblr barely makes vids now. Somebody's gotta take his place
that 80s zarya skin is definitely hotter than the sun
The barbarian is way hotter
Guys, Zarya is generally really fricking hot
Looks like a man
I would love to get crush by that beautiful arms of hers
@@jerenurmela Yeah, she does. She's so hot
0:21 actually you got 2 million because thats how much dps her beam feels like
I love this sort of speculation, its always fun to take video game logic and try to rationalize it with the real world
Yes. For most games, especially games like Overwatch, it would be like fighting a losing battle, hence making it pointless to even begin to rationalise/make sense of some or all things in the game.
@@AdhvaithSaneyeah that’s just not fun.
0:50 Well, there's a interaction between Sigma and Zarya, where she says "I throw black holes at people I don't like."
So yeah, that IS a black hole.
Now I want to see a "realistic overwatch" video where someone somehow programs every entity, from even a breakable railing to a player, to follow her ult while it's also midair. It's probably impossible to do that, especially w the railings, idk how possible it would be for programming even the players. But it'd be fun to see
Just realize the durability of OW characters if they can tank it💀
i never thought in all my years that i would be reminded of physical chemistry while watching a fucking overwatch video. bravo, man. your content is amazing.
Lucio’s sound gun turns sound into projectiles at such a decibel level it would smash your brain
it would be cool if lucios gun had a similar effect to his healing but inverse, this would be more realistic and it would encourage lucio to get in close
Imigane a reaper lucio combo in this case, it would be awesome
4:23 for research purposes?
GYYYYAAAATTTTT
This video is exactly what happens when people start taking gameplay and gameplay visuals as lore, and I love it for that
Bro got a PhD to make this video
Only a few things can withstand the temperatures higher than that of the sun, Zenyatta bringing out his 6 arms is one of them.
this also suggest that every melee attack of every character can produce 1MJ 😅
no that would be kinect energy
Close enough. Welcome back, Marblr
Real
8:00 everything after this is what made the video worth the watch lmao. The only thing trying to rationalize video game logic for is for a good laugh.
In my opinion, the plasma is just a medium for the particles (gravitons, i guess, they are hypothetical, though). The beam causes damage when ordinary matter is saturated with it. The range of the particle cannon is determined by focal point of the beam. Graviton Surge is actually a black hole, that is forming when a big clump of gravitons meets dense matter. This small black hole only lives for a short time due to Hawking radiation, its size is just an optical illusion.
So my vote is for 6000 °C.
I said its size is just an optical illusion because according to the Overwatch wiki, the radius of the Graviton Surge projectile is 0.2m or 200mm, but the Schwarzschild radius of the Earth is only 8.87mm. This means that a black hole with a radius of 200mm would have to be 22.55 times heavier than the Earth itself, which would be impossible. But we can assume that the actual size of the projectile is much smaller and it's just an optical illusion due to the gravitational lens effect and the warping of the air around it.
My issue of the video is the assumption of railings which only gets mentioned at 12:21, Railings are all pre-scored to break and also those results will vary client to client.
My recommendation for figuring out energy output:
Blackboards that spin (Gibraltar)
Swing in Paris (Can add players onto it for variable weighted load)
its really funny that he says "this whole thing is based on a lot of assumptions and is easily wrong" and all the comments are "NO DUDE YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW WRONG YOU ARE!!1"
Clearly 🙄
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Overwatch vs TF2:🤠⚔️😎
Overwatch vs TF2 with actual powerscaling: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
The TF2 mercs have toon force and plot armor, so It would be a comically close fight. Something like roadhog and heavy beating each other over their heads taking lunch breaks until they both drop from exhaustion at the exact same moment.
Power-scaling is fun :)
@@dr.cheeze5382 TF2 mercs have wall level, TF2 bosses have building level.
Meanwhile, average OW character is literally god with unlimited physical strength
@@TracerNegsTF2Verse I suppose you don't know what toon force is?
(oh god, welcome to powerscaling hell.)
@@zappyapp I mean... to an extent? But I'd argue that for most characters this power is near nonexistent and/or overshadowed by plot armour.
But when it comes to the tf2 and ow characters, I think it's pretty clear they have a lot of it.
Next video title: Mei's beam is colder than Neptune/some planet
was not anticipating to hear “cancer beam” today, but here i am
so my personal head canon was that the beam is the Accretion disk of the black hole in the muddle of the gun. using insanely powerful magnets (which would be crazy heavy/dense ) it would also allow her to manipulate the field to absorb and redirect it into the black hole. Her bubbles aren't destroying what's she's shot with. its using it as like a catalyst. increasing its its size and the accretion disk and therefore her dmg.
This is the stuff I like, trying to explain game aspects devs never intended to
Great video!
unironically your entire channel so far is the combination of my two favourite things: science (data, experiments, physics, etc) and gaming
This video is an absolutely ridiculous thing to make and while I question your sanity, I also love it
This kind of videos brings back good memories of watching The Science! in GT.
I really enjoyed the video.
I hope you make more.
TF2 Fans: Wow, Saxton Hale is so cool. He can smash the walls.
Meanwhile weakest OW character: *causally lifting the black hole*
The fact that so many other neccecary things need to be assumed, like how zarya can just breath in space, or how every hero in the game can punch fast enough to generate the heat that this cannon does
The moon colony must have generated an atmosphere for the moon, otherwise how would characters survive going outside?
Also, all characters break the railings the same. What about breaking metal railings?
What was the point of calculating a rate of heating if you were going to assume that the heat was constant and there was no change in heat?
they had spacesuits for going outside
In the lore, the moon has no atmosphere. But in gameplay, all characters are capable of exiting Horizon Lunar Horizon and traversing the lunar surface without taking damage over time or just plain dying from suffocation. Thus, using a gameplay quirk (Zarya being able to go outside on the moon and shoot her beam) to inform that her particle canon cannot be shooting particles is just bad logic. Using the same logic, if characters are outside on the moon with no space suits for life support, all characters must be capable of breathing on the moon/it must have an atmosphere. We know this isn't true. Gameplay logic ≠ Lore logic
In the same vein‚ literally every single character can one-punch break all railings of all different compositions in-game. Using that piece of gameplay (shattering concrete railings) to then decide the power of Zarya's beam is just bad logic, because by that logic characters like 62 year old Ana Amari and 19 year old Hana Seong (outside her MEKA suit) are punching concrete railings with enough force that they shatter exactly the same way with at least the same power as one tick of Zarya's beam. But we know that in the lore, no one outside Doomfist is punching with the kind of power Zarya's particle cannon is outputting.
Also, concrete typically only contains between 2.5 - 6% water by weight. To instantly shatter the concrete from flash boiling all water within it, you would have to instantly bring the entire slab/railing to that temperature. We see in the cinematics that not even the larger Mech Suit or Null Sector versions of her cannon can do that (it instantly slices through metal with pinpoint accuracy in Infiltration and through asphalt with pinpoint accuracy in the Zero Hour cinematic). And regardless of if her beam was particle or plasma in nature, heat distribution would occur at the point of impact and then radiate outward. At temperatures of 2 million degrees celsius, it would sooner punch a hole straight through the concrete at the point of contact (like in lore) than saturate the entire slab with heat and explode it, evidenced by how the more powerful variants of her cannon function in Overwatch canon). And even if Zarya's beam manages to instantly and with 1:1 efficiency transfer all of its heat into all of the concrete at once, the concrete exploding depends entirely on the percentage of water content within the concrete.
Using the concrete as the starting point for energy calculations was not the right move, but the video was fun nonetheless
Absolutely love this video. I find OW’s tech to be super intriguing. I hope you make more videos in this manner
Video idea, Wrecking ball physics and why it would probably kill most heroes
Your videos are amazing, thankyou for making great overwatch theory content its honestly so relaxing and entertaining to watch, kudos.
Zarya's weapon is the ultimate catalyst of destruction.
Close enough welcome back Marblr
Illari's healing beam also insta explodes any concrete railing the same way zarya's weapon does. Does that mean that Illari's beam is as strong as Zarya's beam and so it has the same temperature?
And somehow one heals you while the other melts you?
let alone, idk punching concrete with a bare fist
Well illari used the concentrated power of the sun sooooo..... Not far off
the entire video kinda lost all value the moment he used that water-filled concrete railing argument
@@ZerohFaultWell the proof that it’s not a particle cannon also wouldn’t work since all the characters can breath normally in that area without a helmet, so must contain breathable gas.
I don't know if this is a bad thing, but I couldn't stop myself from criticizing your logic. I'm glad that you mentioned the roughness of the method, and I would love to discuss future methods if you want.
That being said, I have almost no expertise in the field of science besides learning science heavy subjects that I'm interested in.
Congratulations on hitting 2 million
so much work for something so pointless and silly. I LOVE IT THANK YOU!
Thank you for asking the serious questions 🙏
I mean I would have just ruled it out as videogame magic/logic but I really appreciate you making a final physics exam-tier problem.
Also, whoever got contracted to build the railings totally ripped them off.
This is why I'm a zarya main. Not because I know how to utilize her abilities or her ult, not because I find her more fun than the other tanks. It's because she fires a planet-cracking death ray from the hip.
Here from Wirtual's Piramidory video, insane editing skills bro!!
This has to be just dead wrong but I love this kind of outrageous theory crafting so much
Ok, so Kiriko's kunai must be the same temperature, because the railing breaks the same way regardless of who shoots at it. Right?
I’ve seen this video almost everyday and today I finally decided to watch it
You forgot that the concrete barrier is not just experiencing heat from the beam, but also radiating itself and having convective heat transfer with the surrounding atmosphere. This means that energy required is even bigger, thus the beam even hotter.
the beautiful workings of a madman
by this logic, a baby dva melee outputs 1M joules
Love the atmospheric soundtrack
This reminded me of an ooold video from like 2016 by shoddycast in which he calculated the kinetic energy of the beam by seing how it moves the gold bars in Dorado defenders spawn (assuming they weight the same as an IRL gold bar), which also led him to the conclusion that it is heat based, as it didn't have a lot of kinetic energy.
He then calculated the kinetic energy to heat conversion from Zarya Blocking damage, but If I remember correctly didn't land on a specific temperature either.
Anyway, great video.
Yeah no only these two videos?? You are my favorite Overwatch creator dude
I think videos talking about the scientific shit in OW is just what I needed. Thanks!
If I learned anything, it's that Overwatch heroes could probably rival the Gods in raw strength and survivability
welcome back, marblr
Marblr but if he uploaded, so glad there's someone making videos like this again
First Ive ever actually been interested math 😂 great video ❤
Now, learn your multiplication tables up to 15s.
I’d love to see more videos like this from you
Great vid! My favorite part is 4:25
I propose the next video to be a breakdown of the Illari weapon's temperature
Are we going to ignore the cheeky 🍑 inclusion at 4:23
we are not
c'mon now, we all know the baddest overwatch character is roadhog
Yes, we are. We have much more important matters to attend to.
Namely *SCIENCE!*
@@g_vostfr he lets his cheeks hang out and everything
sexist
Dear Blizzard, hi, It's me! Austin!
good editing, love this style, marblr, shounic, good company
2:49 Light speed is the fastest anything can go. Nothing can travel between planets in a fraction of a second.
Does the concrete evidence mean Mei's Endothermic Blaster is thousands of degrees? xD
That can be explained as the water expanding from rapid cooling as water expands when cooled.
@@botobop nice point 😆
Ice expands
Technically all characters have this power
I love the detective Cassidy visual
0:55 Sigma literally alters the effects of gravity within a specific zone of space and wields mini black holes, which are black holes, and you can tell this because upon impact or expiration they do move items around. Similarly to Zarya's Graviton Surge. Meaning that is also quite literally a miniature black hole. This is a fictional universe.
I fucking love this video. Please keep making this shit. My new fav youtube overwatch content thankyou sir.
"i walked 2 times around the map and then stood afk for 28 hours so whats the cannon meaning behind my character running that much and then standing still for 28 hours"
So that’s why she does so much damage, I also wonder how hot sym beam is
the actual answer is: it's a video game.
Smino intro got me hooked ngl
Bro this is insane, good work ffs! Subbed
Zarya has never been in space in the lore, and its not canon that she's outside in space either. So this video is wrong past 2:32
This video was made for fun and not to be taken lore seriously.
Everything is taken from gameplay and games are made to entertain you
We all know the game engine doesn't follow laws of physics
the music is nostalgic, when your brother is in the bathroom and you can't start the race yet and just have to wait #0:40
Forgot to subscribe from your last video, excited to see more!
Don’t forget about the implications of maximum charge. You should calculate that next!!!
I don’t think the concrete railing experiment makes sense since all weapons break the railing in the same way. A melee hit from any character would do the same damage as junkrat’s tire by that logic.
Please do science based investigations into overwatch characters and they’re kits PLEASE
Damn, this was a good video, bro, gotta think the algorithm for bringing me here
i wish game theory would still make videos like this
I mean if we’re stretching the definition a “particle cannon” could also just mean a regular gun
Bro you’re nuts. Love it
I think the beam is blueish purple. Often times in those sorts of artstyles you have to use a white middle to better portray something is glowing bright.
Marblr
Austin
Who's next?
Sir, please keep on producing bangers.
THIS IS AWESOME CONTENT
It’s hard to find these videos when searching for them
dva defense matrix is crazy
Maybe a video on how physically strong some characters are, like Doomfist, Winston, Rein (with armor), Mauga
incredible video
5:22 even more powerful if you play at more than 60fps apparently lol
It could just be whatever energy source or components she is using just produce that glow.
There’s just something satisfying about having an Australian man waste his life doing maths to try to rationalise video game/kid’s movie logic. This should become a genre, shame this vid isn’t named “The absolute HOTNESS of Zarya’s beam” so we can add it to the collection
the MatPat of overwatch
marbler from walmart
We need a vid on how Reinhardt can move or how mauga is able to live for so long