i was just watching didn't even realize that this was a small channel. thought it was a channel like marblr. this channel is going places at this pace, awesome production quality, keep it up!
I went down to type "I've been aiming at D.vas thighs all along, idiots and then saw this comment. My displeasure is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
The "three months later me talking" edit genuinely pained me. I can't imagine the reaction you had when you were mostly done with this video, and then got hit with the season 10 tank changes which completely mess with your findings due to the headshot damage reduction change
It's not that he did something bad, it's just that Marblr exaggerates more things for comedic effect, I.e. the end on his spawns video. This guy seems more calm and collected. A different style, but still good!
I love how he talks about the way characters actually move left to right. I knew I wasn't tripping seeing as some characters have very odd and unpredictable animations compared to others
@@Very_Okay originally i thought that was a clickbait video cuz it had like 1k views so i didnt watch it cuz of that, but today it again appered in my recommendation with 80k views
this is why I love overwatch and have never gotten bored of it since I started playing in 2018. the different variables for each hero, the almost infinite number of unique gameplay interactions and outcomes, and people like this who spend so much time calculating and studying this sort of thing just out of a love and interest in the game and how it works. overwatch is far from a perfect game, balance is always weird and off and it's incredibly frustrating at times but also incredibly rewarding at times too. I really appreciate the work and dedication that goes into this sort of video. absolutely amazing !!
One thing to note about abilities, CC's would also contribute to BHE. When you're hard CC'd you are not dealing damage; in other words that CC provided the character with damage immunity for N seconds. Ana's sleep is a big example as 5 seconds of invulnerability every 28 seconds assuming a 50% accuracy would jump her up a few tiers. Could probably apply the average accuracy stats from Overbuff to calculate this without testing. Hog hook, Orisa javelin (take with or without wall slam?), Doom punch (charged or not?)... Etc Also, I just realized : since you're counting a primaling Winston aping you around, what about a Roadhog with whole hog booping you around? Not to mention his hitbox shifts slightly during ult (harder to hit headshots if I'm correct) Great video on such an underexplored topic. Really enjoyed it.
This is 100% going into my "Keep in mind very promising and talented creators" playlist. This is so amazingly researched and the editing makes understanding the information for people like me (ADHD) really easy. Intentionally or not, thank you for making it easy for me to understand ❤
This video is very high quality all throughout, but for some reason what really caught my attention was Soldier looking at each new text that appeared on screen at 9:56 Incredibly well thought!
Hey man great video I was entertained for the full 32 minutes, with suggestions I wonder if you could do a video about the fastest ow characters in different situations, like burst speed or a continuous speed, I just think that would be really cool, good luck for your future endeavours🙌❤️
I’m not all the way through (20:50) but i wanna note that tracer’s strafing can be manipulated. by stuttering the AD (so A brief pause D etc) her movement can be made significantly more erratic than usual via hurtbox manipulation. Girlie has mixups on her mixup
Damn i love these kind of videos, overwatch content on RUclips is mostly so cheap but every few months you might find something like this it's so incredible I was searching for a video like this since i started playing overwatch last year
Been saying this for a while - Kiriko needs the Widowmaker treatment. Give her less health since her hitbox is significantly smaller than then rest of the cast. Her having her disgustingly broken abilities is kinda ok actually if it means she's made out of glass.
She would still be broken in good hands. It would just cover the wound. Making a character harder to play or clunky is one of the laziest way to try to solve a balance issue. Widow can still be oppressive, she's just easier to stoomp with counterswap and even "harder" to learn.
@@Aeni13 then give Tracer 250hp and see if it's just covering the wound or an actual valid design decision. That being said, I'd prefer for suzu being less of an intrusive ability and acting as cleansing without phasing.
I agree, so much utlility and damage needs to have a significant downside. I would suggest fix her hit and hurt box, but your change is way better. Giving her low health would also prevent the teleport bs her mains do. It would force them to use it early as it would be easily to either kill her or shoo her away
Aim Advice: If it's a slim girl, look at hips/thighs If it's a thick fella, look at chest DW fella I've been doing that since the game came out Also I'm just imagining all the Winston mains out there nodding thoughtfully watching this video. "Ahh yes, aim for Zenyattas legs, I see, I see..."
I absolutely love this video! Well-made, well edited, discusses a really interesting concept that I haven’t seen analyzed with this depth anywhere else! When you’ve hit 10k subs, please don’t forget about those of us who were here from the start 🙏
As a life long torb connoisseur Ty... for shedding light to the plight of Torb players, its honestly why its hard playing torb in higher level play when hitscan ranged dps are meta... which is often.
If needed, you go for longer ad strafes and dont bother crouching. Crouching as torb can actually be worse as the only character with any recoil is literally just soldier and it only goes upwards. So just randomize your AD but long enough and preferably be near a wall instead.
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Oh I agree with ya on the wall hugging strat. Its just soo much harder to get value now since the season 9 changes. ad strafing as you shotgun close ranged with the movement speed buff use to work but when the ease of head shotting and body shotting increased/ as well as not having armor but over health it really made it harder to do that strat vs competent players. He still is fun but more and more I have seen that I have to switch if its a good widow/ashe or phara lol.
what is up with OW youtubers having such an amazing production level. the graphics, animations and small details are amazing. Congrats on a banger of a video, keep it up.
Extremely niche and specific thing about the mei ice wall for the calculations: If you're in a small corridor you can place it in such a way that all 5 pillars are in the way of the opponent, making the time to break the wall much higher
This actually might be the most informative overwatch video I've ever watched... And I've consumed way too much overwatch content. I'll definitely remember this video.
The cortex at the end made me feel like I watched a piece of art and then I came to my senses and realized I just watched a mind numbing 30 minute video packed with data fueled by a guys hyper fixation that maybe had 2 to 3 minutes of competitively viable information. 5 stars great video
Its insane that they gave Kiriko EVERY escape in the game. AND a self heal. AND a short immortality. AND a headshot with high rate if fire. Devs have favorites.
@WhatIsTheHeat they gave her an instant transmission, bro and her own hand blocks her leaning head hitbox. If she's poop poop without one of those then how does Zen exist and keep getting high pick/win rate? Kirkiko was their favorite. They justify her toolkit by giving her a slightly slower rate of healing than other supports but she can duel most of the DPS in the game and if she's ever losing, TELEPORT to the nearest tank.
@@WeAllLaughDownHere-ne2ou Well yeah she’s a support not a healer and in most cases has to use all her abilities to 1v1 the DPS which means she cannot use her abilities to help her team at all when she goes for a duel.
I always thought to myself why does no one make an in depth video about the effectiveness of movement in this game. It would get so many views. Now here it is finally. Thank you.
Great first video dude, we can tell the amount of effort you’ve put in and it shows. Regardless of different characters of having different aiming styles it’s always great to see these kinds of in-depth analysis in OW and can also shed light for the developers to do some slight tweaks for some hit boxes or animations.
excellent video and method. From the intro, to the method used, to layout of your stats. Nice explanation of different factors that affect the stats too at the end. I was thinking of those myself . Its a super cool and i can see all the work you put into it. 10/10 brother
Sure, much of the information is in a literal sense minimally applicable but, the information itself is still quite valuable. Knowing the optimal, even if unreasonable, allows you to be more optimal by making you more reasonable. (Holy shit banger quote) What I mean by this is that if you know where best to shot any character in an ideal scenario, you don't just learn that specific information but learn how to temper your circumstances closest to the ideal, (since even junkrat will benefit by allowing you to aim where most generous). This still also applies with knowing the absolute peak of a characters survivability. With that info, based on how much dps you're taking on what character, you can make more informed decisions on when you may die and how to survive since you know where your maximum time alive. Also goes offensively too, since you know the absolute minimum amount of time it would take to kill a character no matter your dps.
Really thought it was Marbl at first bacuse of the high video quality and this close attention to numbers and graphs That's a compliment though! Keep it up, amazing stuff!
This is an exceptional video. As a self-proclaimed Overwatch nerd (yes I hate myself), I love seeing stuff like this even if you aren't Marblr. It made me understand why I find it so easy to shoot heroes like Torb and Bastion and why I find it INCREDIBLY hard to shoot Illari. Keep going man, you earned my subscription.
close enough welcome back marblr
"Close enough"
LOL. That's my motto
i legit thought this was a Marblr video until i looked at op
@@qinnara5301reall
What op means?@@qinnara5301
@@qinnara5301same
This math teacher is tricking us into learning math.
That dirty commies
Damnit, he's played us like a cheap kazoo!
Inadvertently he tricked you into mislearning study design...
No, he hepled you cause education is important.
@@WilliamMarshall-b1g and you clearly you don't have enough, "hepled" 😂
valorant aiming guide: aim for the head
overwatch aiming guide:
I love it. I prefer games where the aiming is super varied and not holding corners.
Aim for the thighs (only for the girls though)
@@Icedteaman-o8owhy
@@emma6648 because the math and science says so of course
i was just watching didn't even realize that this was a small channel. thought it was a channel like marblr. this channel is going places at this pace, awesome production quality, keep it up!
No one cares. 0 originality just like your comment
yeah its cool and all and do get inspired but please at least try to make something original and not just copy
The marblr effect
@@sgdadfgdfgadbdfbd I mean it's just a style
@@sgdadfgdfgadbdfbd lowkey
aiming at her thighs.
I see i see, ive been doing that all along
surprisingly with widowmaker you should be aiming at her head. very unintuitive.
@@suyunbek1399 the devs knew what they were doing
I went down to type "I've been aiming at D.vas thighs all along, idiots and then saw this comment. My displeasure is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@@LukeHokageobjectifying women is blizzards motto
Alr alr but BBL Juno is still welcome in my games @@emma6648
scoliosis is a survivability adaptation for ana
The "three months later me talking" edit genuinely pained me. I can't imagine the reaction you had when you were mostly done with this video, and then got hit with the season 10 tank changes which completely mess with your findings due to the headshot damage reduction change
And :(
It got worse.
@@OverbiteGameslol ANOTHER armor change
very marblr esc, amazing video keep it up
brah said esc
Yeah was bout to say that and I dig that heavy
-esque, but yes
esc?
jesus, we are cooked.
@@youdontknowmegigna me when people have different first languages
so thicc thighs don't actually save lives
Thicc thighs are detrimental to lives
They may save others' lives by focusing the fire on you
Big dongs are better anyways
Shrimp. Guys, and this size can't take a girl like Chun li.
Marblr died 2020, Camp born 2024. Welcome back Marblr
2020??
@@spiegeleifisch2982yeah wtf?? Bro stopped posting in 2023 i think (or late 2022)
@@fluffyx1676 Marblrs latest video is from early 2024. It was about spawns in Overwatch
You dont mean died died right? Just hasnt posted?
@@baileyskatesYeah he took a break
Someone finally made mentally stable marblr ❤
what happened to marblr? did he do sum bad?
@@kayanono yeah they put him in a padded room with rats in it
rats make him crazy
It's not that he did something bad, it's just that Marblr exaggerates more things for comedic effect, I.e. the end on his spawns video. This guy seems more calm and collected. A different style, but still good!
@@billcipher1756 joke is so old its nostalgic at this point
@@kayanonoit’s actually an extremely old internet copy-pasta! it goes back decades, genuinely :)
The production quality of this video is insane. Making my mark here before you hit it big!
I find it interesting that Lucio is the second hardest to hit when he has just speed boost… even in a workshop where he can’t benefit from wallride.
I feel like Lucio is pretty easy to hit when wallriding. Probably not in a rollout but normally I’d say yes. Especially as Cassidy rather than pharah
@@WhatIsTheHeat after season nine, true. Hitboxes are now big enough that good players pretty much won't miss him regardless of his movement.
I love how he talks about the way characters actually move left to right. I knew I wasn't tripping seeing as some characters have very odd and unpredictable animations compared to others
insane that this video only has 17 views right now, this is really well organized & presented.
Real
It’s his first ever video on this channel
@@arbre_mystique yes, and when it was organically fed to me by the algorithm days ago, it has been out for a day with no views on it.
@@Very_Okay originally i thought that was a clickbait video cuz it had like 1k views so i didnt watch it cuz of that, but today it again appered in my recommendation with 80k views
“aim at her thighs” is crazy work
Is “crazy work” some new trend someone said and now everyone is just repeating the phrase?
@@PhoenixPalmer88 and if it is? you understand it so relax
😋
@@junyaiwase Dude immediately decided to take offense to something I didn't say.
@@PhoenixPalmer88 who said i took offense to it, i asked a question i didny say anything you didnt say
Your editing is unreal. The way you had Soldier tracking the text boxes around 10:00 is so on point
this is why I love overwatch and have never gotten bored of it since I started playing in 2018. the different variables for each hero, the almost infinite number of unique gameplay interactions and outcomes, and people like this who spend so much time calculating and studying this sort of thing just out of a love and interest in the game and how it works. overwatch is far from a perfect game, balance is always weird and off and it's incredibly frustrating at times but also incredibly rewarding at times too. I really appreciate the work and dedication that goes into this sort of video. absolutely amazing !!
One thing to note about abilities, CC's would also contribute to BHE. When you're hard CC'd you are not dealing damage; in other words that CC provided the character with damage immunity for N seconds.
Ana's sleep is a big example as 5 seconds of invulnerability every 28 seconds assuming a 50% accuracy would jump her up a few tiers. Could probably apply the average accuracy stats from Overbuff to calculate this without testing.
Hog hook, Orisa javelin (take with or without wall slam?), Doom punch (charged or not?)... Etc
Also, I just realized : since you're counting a primaling Winston aping you around, what about a Roadhog with whole hog booping you around? Not to mention his hitbox shifts slightly during ult (harder to hit headshots if I'm correct)
Great video on such an underexplored topic. Really enjoyed it.
Amazing comment ! I was also curious of how abilities would affect thoses results. Still a super video !
Reinhardts full length charge too
A 32 minute video with this quality is insane, especially for a channel of this size. Subbing for more in the future
What an insane level of production for a first video.
This is 100% going into my "Keep in mind very promising and talented creators" playlist. This is so amazingly researched and the editing makes understanding the information for people like me (ADHD) really easy. Intentionally or not, thank you for making it easy for me to understand ❤
This video is very high quality all throughout, but for some reason what really caught my attention was Soldier looking at each new text that appeared on screen at 9:56
Incredibly well thought!
Hey man great video I was entertained for the full 32 minutes, with suggestions I wonder if you could do a video about the fastest ow characters in different situations, like burst speed or a continuous speed, I just think that would be really cool, good luck for your future endeavours🙌❤️
Awesome video idea, this might be the next one
I’m not all the way through (20:50) but i wanna note that tracer’s strafing can be manipulated. by stuttering the AD (so A brief pause D etc) her movement can be made significantly more erratic than usual via hurtbox manipulation. Girlie has mixups on her mixup
For the first time ever, I bless the RUclips algorithm for helping me find something worth watching
Interesting how recently the small and new channels are making better videos than the big and well known ones
It's always been like that, it's just that in recent months the algorithm has pushed smaller creators a lot more.
Especially Donut Media
@@Nate-bd8fg are you calling donut media a small channel?
@@sleepyspoon donut is big and well known, but their contents gone to shit
@@Nate-bd8fg ah ok mb, i havent checked their channel in years so i was unaware
Damn i love these kind of videos,
overwatch content on RUclips is mostly so cheap but every few months you might find something like this it's so incredible
I was searching for a video like this since i started playing overwatch last year
Hope the algorithm boosts this one for you brother
Wonderful music choice and pacing for what is unarguably a dense video to make.
Been saying this for a while - Kiriko needs the Widowmaker treatment. Give her less health since her hitbox is significantly smaller than then rest of the cast. Her having her disgustingly broken abilities is kinda ok actually if it means she's made out of glass.
She would still be broken in good hands. It would just cover the wound.
Making a character harder to play or clunky is one of the laziest way to try to solve a balance issue. Widow can still be oppressive, she's just easier to stoomp with counterswap and even "harder" to learn.
@@Aeni13 then give Tracer 250hp and see if it's just covering the wound or an actual valid design decision. That being said, I'd prefer for suzu being less of an intrusive ability and acting as cleansing without phasing.
Nah fuckoff. Better stop saying that stupidity then
I agree, so much utlility and damage needs to have a significant downside. I would suggest fix her hit and hurt box, but your change is way better. Giving her low health would also prevent the teleport bs her mains do. It would force them to use it early as it would be easily to either kill her or shoo her away
Kiriko was really average for a squishy according to the video
I can not believe this is not a larger channel, the effort you put into your videos does not go unnoticed and you will be rewarded with time
15:50 Zenyatta's adjusted crosshair placement: My Balls!
Aim Advice:
If it's a slim girl, look at hips/thighs
If it's a thick fella, look at chest
DW fella I've been doing that since the game came out
Also I'm just imagining all the Winston mains out there nodding thoughtfully watching this video. "Ahh yes, aim for Zenyattas legs, I see, I see..."
I absolutely love this video! Well-made, well edited, discusses a really interesting concept that I haven’t seen analyzed with this depth anywhere else! When you’ve hit 10k subs, please don’t forget about those of us who were here from the start 🙏
17:03 - When the Vsauce music hits you know shit just got real
As a life long torb connoisseur Ty... for shedding light to the plight of Torb players, its honestly why its hard playing torb in higher level play when hitscan ranged dps are meta... which is often.
If needed, you go for longer ad strafes and dont bother crouching. Crouching as torb can actually be worse as the only character with any recoil is literally just soldier and it only goes upwards. So just randomize your AD but long enough and preferably be near a wall instead.
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Oh I agree with ya on the wall hugging strat. Its just soo much harder to get value now since the season 9 changes. ad strafing as you shotgun close ranged with the movement speed buff use to work but when the ease of head shotting and body shotting increased/ as well as not having armor but over health it really made it harder to do that strat vs competent players. He still is fun but more and more I have seen that I have to switch if its a good widow/ashe or phara lol.
what is up with OW youtubers having such an amazing production level. the graphics, animations and small details are amazing.
Congrats on a banger of a video, keep it up.
I've already joined the camp of "Kiriko needs less hp" but this video just makes it even more clear that she needs that nerf.
First video being this good. Bro got a masters in culinary arts.
I love these types of ow videos 😭🙏
Extremely niche and specific thing about the mei ice wall for the calculations:
If you're in a small corridor you can place it in such a way that all 5 pillars are in the way of the opponent, making the time to break the wall much higher
THAT KINDA VIDEO WITH ONLY 50 SUBS??? bro you need moreeeee-
Calm down brother
My man this content is fire. Keep it up
3+ months for this banger? See you in another 3 I guess sheesh.
i thought my Spotify was unpaused while watching XD. Awesome taste
i love watching a technical video on a game i havent played in months
This actually might be the most informative overwatch video I've ever watched... And I've consumed way too much overwatch content. I'll definitely remember this video.
Actual peak. This is so well made and helpful!
Now let’s nerf Kiri’s hitbox 😂
They already did :((((( it was so fun on first release, you could block headshots with her arm 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@Nate-bd8fg lets calm down nate
This is incredibly underrated. Your channel too. This deserves much more attention! I respect the effort you put into the video, it was a great watch
This is so well edited! You deserve way more subs tbh :)
Thanks :>
The production quality of this video is incredible.
The cortex at the end made me feel like I watched a piece of art and then I came to my senses and realized I just watched a mind numbing 30 minute video packed with data fueled by a guys hyper fixation that maybe had 2 to 3 minutes of competitively viable information.
5 stars great video
This is one of the most impressively made Overwatch Video i have ever seen.
You sir are goated!
im a kiriko main and this is one of the most fire vids ive seen in a while. love the vsauce music too made the video that much better 👌🏽
I love and respect how much effort went into this video.
Its insane that they gave Kiriko EVERY escape in the game.
AND a self heal.
AND a short immortality.
AND a headshot with high rate if fire.
Devs have favorites.
Yet you remove one of them and she probably becomes poop
@WhatIsTheHeat they gave her an instant transmission, bro and her own hand blocks her leaning head hitbox.
If she's poop poop without one of those then how does Zen exist and keep getting high pick/win rate?
Kirkiko was their favorite. They justify her toolkit by giving her a slightly slower rate of healing than other supports but she can duel most of the DPS in the game and if she's ever losing, TELEPORT to the nearest tank.
@@WeAllLaughDownHere-ne2ou Well yeah she’s a support not a healer and in most cases has to use all her abilities to 1v1 the DPS which means she cannot use her abilities to help her team at all when she goes for a duel.
Great video! I’d love an in-depth look at Rein pin and why it’s basically always been inconsistent.
Can this guy be the hero balance lead?
applauding this level of math and work, even if it's application is trivial. this was very entertaining and well polished
As a Ramattra player, I honestly didn't know his hitbox was so difficult to face when ad strafing. Will definitely be doing more of that!
Fantastic video! I plan on using this workshop to sharpen my skills
Such an insane start for your channel, you really nailed it.
I hope you don't get burnt out with that much cooking.
Great video. In the future I’d love if you could have several players do the testing, aka getting data from several sources to verify the results.
I HECKIN LOVE NEW QUALITY RUclips CHANNELS
When you watch an ow video but it's actually a video about statistics
I always thought to myself why does no one make an in depth video about the effectiveness of movement in this game. It would get so many views.
Now here it is finally. Thank you.
it's already been said, but the production quality here is great! well done, you earned a sub
how this only has 700 views is insane, this deserves so much more and i hope the algorithm boosts you up someday. quality content
Stunning video quality ?!
Appears out of nowhere,
Drops one of the best hitreg info videos on the platform
leaves
refuses to elaborate
First ever video and its an absolute banger.
this video is so underrated that it hurts. good job and keep it up!
Great first video dude, we can tell the amount of effort you’ve put in and it shows. Regardless of different characters of having different aiming styles it’s always great to see these kinds of in-depth analysis in OW and can also shed light for the developers to do some slight tweaks for some hit boxes or animations.
what an amazing video, thanks for making it!
Woww that's a high effort video! Incredibly fun watch also. :)
excellent video and method. From the intro, to the method used, to layout of your stats. Nice explanation of different factors that affect the stats too at the end. I was thinking of those myself . Its a super cool and i can see all the work you put into it. 10/10 brother
Sure, much of the information is in a literal sense minimally applicable but, the information itself is still quite valuable. Knowing the optimal, even if unreasonable, allows you to be more optimal by making you more reasonable. (Holy shit banger quote)
What I mean by this is that if you know where best to shot any character in an ideal scenario, you don't just learn that specific information but learn how to temper your circumstances closest to the ideal, (since even junkrat will benefit by allowing you to aim where most generous).
This still also applies with knowing the absolute peak of a characters survivability. With that info, based on how much dps you're taking on what character, you can make more informed decisions on when you may die and how to survive since you know where your maximum time alive.
Also goes offensively too, since you know the absolute minimum amount of time it would take to kill a character no matter your dps.
the animation is top teir. Its entertaining captivating and non distracting from the compact efficient and attention grabbing dialogue.
16 subs... WHAT QUALITY AND COMMITMENT, great job can't wait to see more
You put a lot of effort into this, well done and can't wait to see more!
Great video, really hope this channel takes off into popularity soon.
Really thought it was Marbl at first bacuse of the high video quality and this close attention to numbers and graphs
That's a compliment though!
Keep it up, amazing stuff!
Incredible video! Keep up the good work!
Truly captivating
I don't even play overwatch I just think this video is interesting
Absolutely amazing video mate. Loved watching how technical you got
Dude I love this kind of content, well made video
So glad to have you making stuff like this. Keep it going!!
Wish I could like this video 40 times. It’s brilliant
18:30 is this a fckn graze the roof from pvz jazz remix in the background? 🔥
I remember time, when servers couldnt handle a-d+crouch, so then youd get shots that were to center of mass and still went blatantly through the hero.
Honestly you explained everything so well I didn’t realize how long this video is.
Banger vid. Keep up the good work. Love the style of editing and the graphics are super helpful to someone like me who takes in visuals much better
Big ups Camp, hoping you grow in the future my guy.
Quality & Effort in these videos is crazy high.
The amount of effort put into this video is insane! I respect the dedication
As someone who never played over watch, this video is interesting to me
I love Marlboro
This is an exceptional video. As a self-proclaimed Overwatch nerd (yes I hate myself), I love seeing stuff like this even if you aren't Marblr. It made me understand why I find it so easy to shoot heroes like Torb and Bastion and why I find it INCREDIBLY hard to shoot Illari. Keep going man, you earned my subscription.
Excellent addition to the Marblr cinematic universe, great video!