RX 7800XT.. 6 Months Later - It's Not The Same.
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- The RX 7800 XT 16GB is one of the best VALUE card when it was released in late 2023. Today, we are going to revisit and review the RX 7800 XT in 2024 and see if it is still one of the best modern cards in terms of value and performance.
We'll be testing the RX 7800 XT in our usual competitive shooters like Warzone, Apex Legends, Fortnite, Valorant, PUBG and The Finals!!
🟣 RX 7800 XT 16GB in 2024 🟣
PC specs, Drivers - 00:00
COD Warzone 3 - 1:14
Apex Legends - 3:05
Fortnite - 4:24
Valorant - 6:35
PUBG - 7:35
The Finals and Recommendations - 8:55
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Drivers Used:
*AMD Adrenalin Drivers 24.2.1
*Nvidia Game Ready Drivers 551.61
*Stock/Custom fan settings
*SAM/ReBAR and XMP enabled in the BIOS
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i just picked up a Sapphire RX 7800 XT, and i fcking love it. it smokes my RX 7600 OC and my old RX 590
Me too, i just bought a sapphire nitro 7800xt it should be here in some days! I have a 590! 😅
Did you tested cod after you do manual tuning . How das it behave after that
For some reason, my 7800 xt timespy benchmark went up from ~19600 to ~21200. I'm using the minimal instal of adrenalin. Afterburner is not running.
I don't really test synthetics but that is good to know 👍
Its probably that the drivers.
My 5700xt had huge imorovements with drivers over its life
no brainer. 7800xt waaaay better still 4060 is just trash
Yes you would it to be, but unfortunately in this case not on all scenarios.. Warzone, for example, is quite disappointing vs a 4060.
@@OverseerPC-Hardware certain driver version fucked up some fps (primarily the 24.1.1 update) so either stick with 23.11.1 or 24.2.1 for the best experience.
Well, yeah.. but this is with 24.2.1 though
@@OverseerPC-Hardware ah sorry for that, didn't notice if it was mentioned in the video as I watched in parts. I assumed it was the 24.11.1 drivers so my bad on that part.
edit : ig some games really just works better on Nvidia cards.
Not sure why everyone trashes the 4060. It’s served the ps3 very well😮
So in your opinion is the 7800xt better? Or anything else you recommend for 1440p gaming im planning on get my first pc in a couple months
Highly depends on what your use case will be. Will you be predominantly gaming, streaming, video editing etc? and if you're into gaming, what will be your main game?
@@OverseerPC-Hardware im going to use it for gaming and my main game will probably be like cod or Fortnite but I would like to try new games mainly multiplayer not into story mode games but i would like to try some
At this stage, I would probably point you to this one ($529) - amzn.to/3vrm1Av
I haven't tested with the latest driver 24.3.1(and waiting for FN update) but from the current testings, bit of a disadvantage with AMD card on competitive play. Who knows if they are able to fix this months later when you buy your PC. But I'll definitely be continuing to test this.
are warzone really that cpu heavy?
I have the exact same gpu as you in this best but when i play with fsr3 on i only get like 130 fps, my cpu is a ryzen 7 5900x
Yes, it relies on all of the components rather than just solely on the GPU. The CCX setup of the 5900X will add latency in gaming, it would be more practical to go for this if you don't need those extra cores. - amzn.to/3TP9S0w
COD is full of bugs, glitches and crashes all the time. So no point to even discuss this game any benchmark for any card (AMD/NVIDIA) is pointless when you test against this pile of shitte. :D
Sadly in today's competitive games, anyone using a 4090 has a huge advantage vs anyone else with its stability and least ms latency on screen.
In old days when I played CS 1.6, everyone was more equal on hardware, most people had either 60 hz or 100 hz screens and all with stable +300-500 fps, that was mostly the only advantage in gear back then.
If both players have equal mechanical skills, definitely the one with the RTX 4090 would have slightly more advantage.
@@OverseerPC-Hardware if two pro playerteams play vs each other, one team on 4090 360hz the other on 4060 144hz, the 4060 team will die before they even see their enomy, that's how overpowered gear difference has become.
Yup I couldn't agree more
The Radeon looks great, like the actual design and appearance of the card.... my PC is out of sight, and I'm literally using a case from nearly 20 years ago lmao... I used it with a Core2Duo back in the day lol....I just wish I could pinpoint whether upgrading from a 3070 is a good idea. 4090ti costs way too much....7900XTX looks appealing, but the poor RT performance and lack of DLSS MIGHT not be a big deal....but also it might turn out to be a big mistake in 3 years time when I'm thinking I shouldn't have spent £820 on a 7900XTX!
What game do you primarily play and what's the rest of your specs?
Would i get 360 fps stable on 1440p competitive settings with 7800xt and 7600x?
In Valorant and CS2 most likely
What specific game are you referring to?
@@OverseerPC-Hardware fortnite
Not sure if you can reach that with the 7600X, you might as well go with this - amzn.to/3Jahg1I
@@nasrinakter8003 In Fortnite you definitely won't be able to achieve 360 FPS with the 7600x. Fortnite is very CPU intensive. 7800X3D is the right CPU for that
I play at 1080p and I'm assuming going from a 3060 to a 4060 won't net me much gains.
On competitive gaming scenarios, there is as what we've shown previously - ruclips.net/video/OkOCAraJa_Q/видео.html
Absolutely no reason to go from a 3060 to 4060. Save your money and wait for the 5000 series so it’s actually worth the upgrade
@@Trusttheprocess927 yap, the 4060 is equal to or even worse in performance compared to the 4060 minus frame gen, but frame gen is... well, of questionable utility
The 4060 is worse than the 3060ti in a lot of titles.
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Ended up getting a 7800 xt on a nice sale during prime day. way more faster than my 3060 to the point it runs HD2 faster at 1440p than the 3060 was at 1080p in Helldivers 2. I was getting 10-20fps at 1080p during battles and 60+ on 1080p when not fighting but now I get 80fps in fighting on 1440p with the 7800xt. I would have considered at 4070 which this game favors nvidia but it costs at least 25% more in my area
I have a problem with my 7800xt im only getting 140fps at 1080 lowest setting is their anyway to fix that?
Hi there, what's the rest of your specs?
@@OverseerPC-Hardware I5 12600kf and 7800xt. 8x2gb DDR4 3200mhz 750w cosair psu 2tb nvme CPU watercooled and my temps are great for some im not getting higher fps even going on lowest setting it still the game fps I tried games like the final Im only getting 190fps im not even hitting my monitor 240hz refresh rate which is super weird.
Probably need a higher hz monitor
@@alexrosario6864 dont't you have a limiter setup somewhere?maybe riva tuner or amd software
Do i buy xfx rx6800xt swft or some worse rx6800xt?
What's the price difference between the two?
With the 4060 in Warzone your CPU clock speed doesnt drop below 4400mhz, but with the 7800xt its fluctuates between 4325-4375. Seems like the AMD drivers are causing an issue with the CPU and its not able to maintain max clock speed, causing dips in your FPS and .1% lows. Your CPU is also dropping clocks speed in Fornite as well, with the 7800XT. I wonder why the AMD GPU is causing the CPU clock speed to drop?
That's an interesting observation. 👍
thats why i do love ryzen x3d cpus but i stick with nvidea gpus
Now try AFMF modded drivers for 7800 xt just to check how stable it is against the 4060
I usually don't enable any frame generation on any competitive games.
what is the best budget cpu for 7800xt?
What's your budget and your current platform?
7500f
@@jommammaxse95perfect combo imo
Stability of 4060? ok. But than on 1440 P you still consider a card with 128bit over AMD counter with 256 bit when you clearly know bandwidth is crucial in any resolution over 1080p ?🤗
Well yeah, the smaller bus width is a bummer for the 4050.. I mean errr.. 4060 😆
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Is groundbreaking for those who runs 1440 P on 128bit and 192bit bus- stuttering, bad textures etc
from your view which better between rx 7800xt and rtx 4070 super in av1?
I haven't done any testing on AV1 comparisons (because I don't have the proper equipment) but according to people who have intensively tested it, Nvidia has slightly better quality vs AMD but the gap is very close and most likely negligible to the normal viewers. Top AV1 quality is still with Intel ARC.
@@OverseerPC-Hardware i got suprise intel beat nvidia in av1 (after all nvidia always bragging)
Intel have a jump on NVIDIA in the video production space as they have more experience with optimisation for it.@@forcezero2220
Yeah, for some reason they have better productivity. Mind you, they've always had graphics which is used in Quicksync applications hence probably it's superior.
@@OverseerPC-Hardware i see thanks
Is it worth buying it instead of 6800xt almost every comparison video I saw both cards gave the same performance but 6800xt is cheaper
How much $ difference are you looking at bro?
@@OverseerPC-Hardware around 100$
The 7900 gre replaced this card. The price difference between them is so slow (at least in hk), its better to get the gre. 😢
With the latest driver updates, definitely worth looking at the GRE especially with memory OC
Well rx 7800xt was made to fight with rtx 4070 ,and 4070super, also drivers are probably still a bit weak
I'm having some odd stuttering with Hogwarts legacy with my 7800xt (Asrock) but I haven't seen anyone talking about it. May be my CPU slight bottle-necking? I have a 7600x CPU.
Thanks for the vid.
Hogwarts is a bit hardware intensive, your CPU could be a factor. Did you have RT on?
@@OverseerPC-Hardware I'm pretty sure I have RT off and I'm only on a 1080p tv
Which is better paired with ryzen 7 7700, 7800xt or rtx 4070?
Seems like my last reply didnt take, but the 7800xt Hellhound is 520 with a 30 dollar discount code on New Egg at the moment. The PowerColor HellHound is the coolest running 7800xt from what I have seen.
Hi there, sorry I don't usually get notifications for every comment.. but what game do you predominantly play?
@@OverseerPC-Hardware battlefield 2042
Depends on the pricing i wouldn't go for 4070 if its more 100 bucks @@lukenycz7967
@lukenycz7967 I have to be honest bro, I haven't played BF2042 recently (I haven't touched that game since their launch day issues). I'm sorry I don't know which one to recommend specifically for that game. 😑
I got one and it sucked at 3440x1440 so i took it back got a 7900xt. AMDs driver from 2/15 killed the card. Ill keep this one but im going back to nvidia next gen im pretty sick pf this shit. I also had a 5800x die last year and ended up getting a 7800x3d on sale.
Unfortunately, the AMD GPU team is more reactive than proactive.. please submit a bug report on your issues, and here's hoping that they would actually do better QA before releasing a new driver.
Whyd it suck on 3400x1440p?
@bocadog3 it didn't keep the framerate at even medium settings 60 in anything that didn't suck graphically. 7900xt struggles as well just not as often or the game optimization is crap.
@@malygos9301 mine works fine at 3440x1440
I bought the RX 7800XT last week, Already I have had 3 times that my monitors just go black for like 30 seconds then comes back alive, and when I'm playing, the entire interface / ui is all messed up and have to basically just reboot my pc.. I upgraded from gtx 1070. What a disappointment but it was on sale :(
If you switched from an Nvidia card I would highly reccomend DDU at minimum, and a Windows reinstall at worst.
You need to DDU when swapping manufacturers
I did use DDU. But i guess i could try a reinstall of windows if thats necessary
Generally you shouldn't need to reinstall Windows. What PSU do you have?
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Phanteks AMP GH 1000w bought it a few months ago
2:18 ????????? sorry what lmfao its the same graph, spikes happen in every game. on every card. what STABILITY? When you play fortnite u literally say to ignore it because its server related?? Decide. You either prise the STABILITY or ignore it. Weird vid.
Been covering Fortnite for a long time, the frametime spikes in FN is a normal occurrence, which is similar to PUBG. Different competitive games have different engine and server/anti-cheat variables affecting frametimes.
For Warzone, it would not be. If you look closely at the frametime chart between the two cards.. there's micro-fluctuations on the AMD card vs a smooth one on the Nvidia card. This wasn't always the case before (AMD used to be much smoother vs Nvidia). Minor details like this is important on a competitive game. Ideally you want a clear straight line if you want to retain muscle memory and improve precision.
For most common people, this would be "summarised" as 1% lows, which is a lazy way to look at it. The better way to look at it would reading the frametime run and compare both, but people would not look at this (as it's harder to comprehend). Hopefully, this is clear enough for you. 👍
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Not at all. In every game u shown both cards had spikes and then after a moment u point out only at 1 of them and say that it has issues. Now again "Minor details like this is important on a competitive game." no lmao. not a single person cares if graph is 1milisecond higher than the other, and thats literally what u were pointing out for whatever reason?? It doesn't change experience AT ALL. You would NEVER know its a thing without that graph.
It's not the millisecond higher or lower, I'm referring to inconsistency. Most casual players will not notice this at all, which may be similar to 144hz vs 360hz for example. However, for non-casual players, this is very noticeable even without frametime charts or any overlay reading. Most people wouldn't be able to explain this occurrence.. they'll just say "something's off with my aim".
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Ok cool but many times u look at 1 card when they both have the same time spikes in the same game but then you focus on only a single card instead of talking about both of them having the sameissues/graphs?? What is that logic. If both cards have same issue u say they both do instead of saying only 1 does its just stupid and its a false information its not that hard to say that "both cards have timespikes" incredible.
Due to my size and resources, I only focus on testing one card at a time, the other card is just there for comparison. I would love to post the whole test run for both cards but noone wants to see it on YT, hence why I just picked the highlights. And unfortunately, I can't test every other card every time the games listed here has released a new patch, which inadvertently affects performance. This testing is much harder than most main YT channels who just test AAA single games, which update once every blue moon and most of them just recycle test results and put in on their graphs.
My perspective is based on the state of the card in relation to the current state of the game. Frametime spikes when it happens, how often and if that actually breaks your competitive experience 👍
Wtf did I just watch
Why in the world are you comparing two GPU's that are at completely different price points. Seems rather pointless.
I've only put out the 4060 in that video as a reference point (technically, the 7800 XT should slam down a 4060 hard, right?), and also because I don't have any other 40 series card apart from that. 👍
something aint right lol
Every other video, the rx 7800xt outperforms the rtx 4070 or does just as good (unless you want ray tracing, the rtx 4070 gives an extra 10fps)
So why is your 4060 out performing a 7800 lol
Most techtubers don't really play competitive games with real-world settings. If they do, they'd be updating their charts every time and a live service game patches very often... when I mean often, that's like every 2-4 weeks.
This is why you see most techtubers only benchmarking AAA games which update like what.. once every blue moon, and therefore can just recycle their numbers from their previous test. Hence, why I don't do charts but instead get you guys to see first hand. This is empirical data btw, you can replicate this and get the same result (provided its the same season/driver version) 👍
We need 4070
Yeah, definitely need one, bro.. hopefully we'll be able to save enough $$ to buy one.
i have both amd and nvidia gpu's in my house, and i have to say, the "stability" your talking about makes no sense. Amd is still dominating in these results. The tiny ripples in the frametime graph are not the kind of "frame time problems" that is complained about most of the time. you need to learn what BOTTLENECKS are.
As mentioned before, most casual players wouldn't notice this at all.. if they do, people will just dismiss this as.. "Something's off with my aim today" or whatever reason.
Competitive players will notice this jitter in an instant but wouldn't be able to explain it. This event will cause you to miss shots because it will affect your precision and muscle memory.
Bottleneck is present in every system, regardless if you have the best components. In this instance.. this situation will not be favourable to use AMD. Have a look at my last year's video and see if the diff between AMD and Nvidia in Warzone.
no power consumption
GPU power should be there bro.. its beside the GPU clock. 👍
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Your cpu is a bottleneck....
On competitive gaming scenarios, the CPU will be the bottleneck.
And yes, there will always be a bottleneck in a system - in most instances, it's either the GPU or CPU. 👍
@@OverseerPC-Hardware You are right, but from the benchmark from cod, you can see a 15-20% bottleneck on the cpu, therefore the the 7800xt cannot perform it's maximum which actually does debunk what you say in the cod part of the video. Just wanted to let you know, because some people will not be aware of this fact :)
@@minime1167 You're splitting hairs.
Use a 7800x3d your holding the cards back. the 4060 is a not way near the 7800xt. it belongs in the nvidia reject bin. is this a sponsored nvidia hit job. lol what a joke.