ROBOT GOLF BALLS TEST | Find the best 2023 model for your game! 🤖 🏌️‍♂️

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 16 авг 2023
  • What is the perfect golf ball for your game? We spent a week using the R&D robot at the Sports Technology Institute at Loughborough University to find out! 🤖 🏌️‍♂️
    Testing 28 different golf balls at three driver speeds (85 MPH, 100 MPH, 115 MPH), with a 7-iron, and a wedge, we identify which golf balls are the best fit for you.
    Based on the data created we choose our top-performing Tour, Club Golfer and budget balls and explain what you need to know to select the best ball for your own game.
    Read even more and see all of the data on our website here ➡️ tinyurl.com/5cj39dfh
    Timestamps:
    1:05 How we did it - The robot
    2:28 How we did it - The experts
    3:12 Why we used the Sports Technology Institute at Loughborough University
    3:42 The set-up of the Ping G430 and i230 clubs used within this test
    5:08 Why we choose the Foresight GC Quad launch monitor to collect data within this test
    6:58 How we choose which golf balls to test
    9:05 Which golf balls made the cut
    11:20 What you need to know about 2, 3, 4 and 5-piece golf ball constructions
    16:57 How all 28 golf balls performed at 85 MPH with the driver
    20:02 How all 28 golf balls performed at 100 MPH with the driver
    21:34 How all 28 golf balls performed at 115 MPH with the driver
    23:17 Carry distance and shot area averaged over all three driver speeds
    24:36 The lowest to highest driver spin balls (averaged over 100 & 115 MPH)
    25:45 Cost per yard for all 28 golf balls tested
    26:59 How all 28 golf balls performed with a 7-iron
    29:13 Which balls gave the highest flight and steepest decent angle with a 7-iron?
    30:48 How all 28 golf balls performed with a PW
    32:01 Which balls give the most, and least amount of wedge spin?
    34:13 How the 2, 3, 4 and 5-piece ball constructions tested compare in terms of data
    37:05 The most accurate golf ball
    39:07 Our recommendation for the best-performing Tour balls
    43:04 Our recommendation for the best-performing Club Golfer balls
    46:24 Our recommendation for the best-performing 2-Piece/Budget balls
    49:21 What did we actually learn?
    For equipment reviews, course descriptions, news, and more, visit the Today's Golfer website: www.todays-golfer.com
    FOLLOW US
    Subscribe to our channel: / todaysgolfer
    Today's Golfer on Facebook: / thetodaysgolfer
    Today's Golfer on Twitter: / thetodaysgolfer
    Today's Golfer on Instagram: / todaysgolfer
    Today's Golfer on Threads: www.threads.net/@todaysgolfer
  • СпортСпорт

Комментарии • 621

  • @user-ke6ze2ou3c
    @user-ke6ze2ou3c 5 месяцев назад +26

    Best golf ball review I have seen and unbiased analytical approach

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, appreciate you taking the time to feedback. 👍

  • @douglasedward4041
    @douglasedward4041 11 месяцев назад +14

    Thanks. Now I can be more picky about what golf balls I find in the bushes.

    • @usatrooper5045
      @usatrooper5045 9 месяцев назад

      lol, pretty much what I was thinking 😂 I keep most of the finder's keeper's for hazard shot's but it's a real good way to try out different ball's 🤪🇺🇲

    • @user-ve2lq9ii9k
      @user-ve2lq9ii9k 16 дней назад

      @@douglasedward4041 that is hilarious my friend

  • @rybry5080
    @rybry5080 11 месяцев назад +6

    I've been using AD333 for about 2 years, happy with your tests.
    Also interesting about the Kirkland spin, i hit one of the tee and felt like it just fell out of the air once it reached peak height

  • @Mancity1019
    @Mancity1019 11 месяцев назад +40

    Probably the most informative ball test I’ve ever seen! Thank you for doing this and also for mentioning that the balls that are not the most accurate are designed that way for higher skilled players 👍

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +2

      So glad you think so. Thanks so much for the feedback, really appreciate you taking time. #TrebleWinners

    • @user-sw2ob4iw1m
      @user-sw2ob4iw1m 10 месяцев назад +1

      What a tremendous amount of well researched data.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      @@user-sw2ob4iw1m Appreciate the feedback, thanks. 👍

    • @jameo1095
      @jameo1095 8 месяцев назад

      They make them like that so you lose more balls so then you will have to buy more.

  • @patrickbehan3126
    @patrickbehan3126 11 месяцев назад +7

    What an outstanding review, Simon, thank you so much! I couldn’t be more impressed with your comprehensiveness, thoughtfulness and fairness. Kudos!!!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much for saying so Patrick, very much appreciate you taking the time to feedback.

  • @mgf503
    @mgf503 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for a fantastic comprehensive test and review of your data. The presentation of data is digestible and I'm now looking at checking out seceral options in the course!
    I'm also sharing and recommending this video to friends and groups. Congrats!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much Mark, glad we could help.

  • @ndmagic99
    @ndmagic99 11 месяцев назад +43

    Fantastic test and great explanation of the results. Great to see wilson staff and maxfli get the credit they deserve. Only wish the Vice line was included

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +13

      Thanks so much for the feedback, really appreciate you taking the time. Like we mentioned it's not possible to include every ball, perhaps we could do something similar with just DTC balls in the future....watch this space.

    • @MBTK11
      @MBTK11 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@todaysgolferI'd love to see that test of the DTC balls. Of course, including a benchmark retailer ball in it would be sweeter.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  9 месяцев назад +2

      @@MBTK11 That's the plan JP. 👍

    • @cameronloveless1751
      @cameronloveless1751 9 месяцев назад +2

      For DTC comparison please make sure Snell balls are included

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Will see what we can do @@cameronloveless1751

  • @ronlangfus4946
    @ronlangfus4946 11 месяцев назад +10

    Congratulations, the best golf ball test I’ve seen. It’s obvious a lot of work went into this test. Keep up giving us these informative videos.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for taking the time to say so, appreciate your feedback.

  • @richardjacobs7632
    @richardjacobs7632 2 месяца назад +2

    I played the Triad last two season (2022, 2023) was very satisfied with its performance. Bought a deal with the Staff Model 2023 and am playing them now in 2024, am very pleased! Mid handicapper, senior, good distance, spin, and flight! Using PXG 0211 XCor2 irons, Cleveland hybrids and Cobra Fly Z driver.

  • @underpar3250
    @underpar3250 4 месяца назад +3

    Former club pro here. I've gone back and forth between the prov1x and tp5x. I recently put the maxfli tour x into play. I swear it's longer and just as good around the greens. This test confirms this.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for your input, agreed the Maxfli Tour X is a very solid choice.

  • @enzy6434
    @enzy6434 9 месяцев назад +14

    The Wilson Triad stands out to me as an incredible deal given the test results... Standing toe to toe with the Pro V1 in pretty much all tests but is $23 CAD cheaper here in Canada per dozen. Might have just found my new gamer ball.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your input Enzy.

  • @richardharrington289
    @richardharrington289 11 месяцев назад +4

    Wow. That's the most extensive and informative test I have seen regarding golf balls. This video proves that a golf ball fitting is important and that playing the same ball all the time helps your game. Thank you for spending the time doing this. It opened my eyes 👍

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback Richard, appreciate you taking the time.

  • @nealfreeman01
    @nealfreeman01 11 месяцев назад +13

    Great video Simon! Cheers to your team in putting all this data together. This seems to be a much more balanced review than some of the ones here in the states that seem to be more brand bias.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks of taking the time to say so Neal, appreciate the feedback.

    • @edg103
      @edg103 11 месяцев назад +1

      That's an understatement. So refreshing to see a video that doesn't automatically assume ProV1 is the best and that there is absolutely no reason to ever even consider a 2 piece ball.

  • @timdavies710
    @timdavies710 10 месяцев назад +2

    This takes information to a whole new level. love the findings and really keen to test for myself. Been a 7HC for a while but with age and diseased bones catching up fast i thing the review on the slower ball speeds will help me no end. Thank you and the team for your diligence. Great content.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for saying so Tim, appreciate the feedback.

  • @user-mz4jc5nj6b
    @user-mz4jc5nj6b 9 месяцев назад +1

    A very thorough and informative review. I have looked at many of the ball reviews including My Golf Spy and this is the most comprehensive. In particular, I like how you categorize what works for the "Club" golfer. I have a few new ones to try. TY!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for saying so, appreciate you taking the time to feed back.

  • @deviusfeilds
    @deviusfeilds 11 месяцев назад +5

    I got exhausted only watching that. Hats off to all involved. The effort generated great data and lead to wise interpretation.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much for taking the time to say so, it was a journey but we loved every minute! Really appreciate your feedback.

  • @brianbernstein7754
    @brianbernstein7754 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great review Simon, thank you! I live in the US and have started playing the Maxfli Tour S. It’s a a little bit softer than the Maxfli Tour and Tour X, but provides plenty of distance and spin for someone w/ average to slightly above average swing speed. Really good value at only $40/dozen.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your input Brian, appreciate you taking the time.

  • @lesmoore7613
    @lesmoore7613 11 месяцев назад +5

    I just love these data dumps.... definitely another production that must be watched multiple times.... very informative you guys are awesome....

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +2

      Honestly Des, you have no idea how much time it takes to create all this stuff, but we love it just as much as you.
      Thanks so much for your feedback #Respect

    • @bmoneybby
      @bmoneybby Месяц назад

      Fantastic.

  • @Dswag650
    @Dswag650 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! I’m going to consider Wilson and Maxfli next time I need some golf balls. I currently play the Vice Pro. I wish you could of added them to the test. Overall great job providing so much great information to us average golfers.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.

  • @1870289165
    @1870289165 Месяц назад +1

    Best recent test I’ve found, amazing findings. Played PROV1x for years, I’m going to have to try the Kirkland signature and the Wilson plus some maxfli. Good stuff!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  29 дней назад

      Thanks for the feedback, we're just conducting this years version of this test, expect an up to date version with a few weeks.

  • @chrisbiz2
    @chrisbiz2 3 месяца назад +2

    What an exhaustive analysis! Thank you!! I’m exhausted too but much wiser for it. I was pleasantly surprised and shocked as well. Thank you!!!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  3 месяца назад

      Great stuff, thanks for the feedback Chris. 👍

  • @linski561
    @linski561 11 месяцев назад +1

    Got to appreciate the work that's gone into this. Well done, now off to digest the info and make a choice 👍

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for saying so, enjoy digesting!

  • @legend9018
    @legend9018 11 месяцев назад +3

    Absolute legend of a video. Really appreciate the time, effort and attention to detail 🙏🙏🙏

  • @TheECUDave
    @TheECUDave 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great video! I chuckled at your comment "You'll hit more balls into the green with your irons than your wedges" --oh how I wish. But then again you did say "into and not on to" the green

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the comment Dave. 👍

  • @rollo2648
    @rollo2648 11 месяцев назад

    Excellent video and analysis. Appreciate that time meant that you could only test a certain number of golf ball models, it are you planning on doing something similar with the direct to consumer golf balls that are available such as Seed, Vice and Mynt etc.?

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for taking the time to say so. We'd love to for sure. Obviously access would need to be negotiated and somebody needs to foot the bill, as costs run into the tens of thousands.

  • @ExbotHero
    @ExbotHero 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great test - My gut feeling must be quite good.
    Playing The three-winning balls (Wilson Staff Model is my number one, The Callaway Chrome Soft x is number two and the Taylor made is number three.) Mixing between them depending on the court. (My fourth alternative by the way is Titleist Pro v1x left dash) So fun to get confirmation that my feelings are pretty accurate.

  • @lkae4
    @lkae4 11 месяцев назад +1

    What a test. Well done. I have some of the top performers for my speed just from personal experience but my favorite is still the Volvik S3 orange. It's like an orange Pro V1. Very easy to spot from everyone else's golf ball.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for your input. 👍

  • @inav89
    @inav89 11 месяцев назад +2

    Well done Simon,, that makes choosing the right golf ball easier, excellent work!!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Pleasure, just glad we can help us and you understand golf equipment just a little bit more.

  • @chrissnyder7968
    @chrissnyder7968 11 месяцев назад +2

    Simply outstanding, the accuracy/dispersion inclusion is very helpful. Given that we are putting these balls 36 times a round, more or less 🫤 any overall comments on how 2,3,4,5 piece balls react in putting? any favorites in that area? Thank you

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks Chris appreciate you taking the time to feedback. Putting isn't something we've looked at yet. Possibly next time.

  • @teddeveyra7793
    @teddeveyra7793 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Unfortunate to not see any DTC balls tested, but completely understand based on your replies to that comment. Maybe you could add some test metric for durability as that can factor into value. Of course the ball might be lost well before that becomes an issue!

  • @ImGdiddy
    @ImGdiddy 11 месяцев назад +4

    Very interesting and through analysis. I have not tried the Wilson Triad balls but after your report, I will surely give them a try.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback, appreciate you taking the time.

  • @JDSFLA
    @JDSFLA 10 месяцев назад +1

    Huge amount of work, but what a wonderful resource for golfers. Big thank you!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks Chester, really appreciate the feedback.

  • @grahamroden8897
    @grahamroden8897 11 месяцев назад +4

    At my low skill level I can’t fault the Wilson Duos or the AD333’s. Ultimately if it’s round and goes in the right direction I’ll use it.

  • @robertadams8971
    @robertadams8971 10 месяцев назад +1

    Like most golfers we've read the magazines golf ball ratings. This video is really, really, really informative and helpful. Fore right!!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for taking the time to say so Robert, really appreciate your feedback.

  • @coegj
    @coegj 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great stuff guys, thank you.

  • @gcoffey223
    @gcoffey223 Месяц назад +2

    Again... outstanding work. I keep coming back to thus for the data. One thing I am sure of, is I will be getting sone Triads when I get back hone in a few weeks

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks, really appreciate the feedback.

  • @ramsin6938
    @ramsin6938 11 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome stuff Simon and crew, thanks !

  • @GOLFADDICT65
    @GOLFADDICT65 6 месяцев назад +1

    I very much enjoyed this review I am 59 and a 7 handicap i currently use the Wilson Staff , Callaway ERC , Vice Pro Soft , PXG Extreme and in the early spring late fall i use a two piece ball the Srixon softfeel or the Callaway supersoft nice to see i chose well i think your testing is just as good as Golfspy or better thx so much DTC balls comparison would be awesome again thx so much for this review every golfer could benefit from watching this cheers from Vulcan Canada

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks Golf Addict really appreciate you taking the time to feedback. We have a DTC version of this test planned in for this year.

  • @pamarcoux7134
    @pamarcoux7134 10 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic ! Thank you 😊

  • @richardjacobs7632
    @richardjacobs7632 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Triad and the Zip from Wilson are my two gamers! Maxfli Tours here in the USA do fly far! Thanks

  • @wango556
    @wango556 10 месяцев назад +47

    I heard one thing loud and clear, WILSON.

    • @tylerfj24
      @tylerfj24 4 месяца назад +1

      wilson staff balls were my favorite about 10 years ago but they were hard to find.. now everyone carries them so i may check them out again.

    • @philipcrow3806
      @philipcrow3806 4 месяца назад

      @@tylerfj24 they are on Wilson website right now but 2 dozen get 1 dozen free. Free shipping

    • @dickthomas4670
      @dickthomas4670 Месяц назад

      I play Wilson Chaos

  • @simmmomom
    @simmmomom 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow what a video, so much information. Great job!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for taking the time to say so, really appreciate your feedback.

  • @jsasoldier
    @jsasoldier 11 месяцев назад +1

    this is great investigation and data analysis. Extremely informative!!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for taking the time to say so.

  • @barryhowrse9546
    @barryhowrse9546 Месяц назад +1

    One heck of a review and what a treat for data/fitting geeks - only 220K views clearly shows most golfers overlook this aspect? My max swing speed now down to 94mph so will definitely be looking into "soft" balls.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  Месяц назад

      Thanks for the feedback Barry, appreciate you taking the time.

  • @CarstenDittrich2014
    @CarstenDittrich2014 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wow. Awesome test design and great insightful explanation of the results. I am rethinking my choices now 🙂 Thank you

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад +1

      Great stuff, thanks for the feedback. 👍

  • @Brewtal2009
    @Brewtal2009 11 месяцев назад +2

    wow kudos to all involved in this. amazing analysis

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for taking the time to say so, appreciate the feedback.

  • @gregwever13
    @gregwever13 11 месяцев назад +5

    Been playing the Wilson Triad for about a year, they are very accurate. Absolutely love playing with them

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +2

      Great to hear Greg, thanks for you input.

    • @lesleywillis6177
      @lesleywillis6177 9 месяцев назад +1

      That’s funny, I’ve been playing with them and they’re not!😂. But nothing is!

  • @petermitchell6420
    @petermitchell6420 11 месяцев назад +2

    I love a test video and I sat through all 54 minutes 🤓 I game the Tour Response (summer) and AD333 (winter) probably because I lose more in winter with the leafs on the ground but I think I will definitely try out the Wilson Triad and see if that works best for my summer game as my swing speed is around 85 mph but don’t get a lot of height from my mid to short irons.
    Thanks guys

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback Peter, great to hear you got something out of it.

  • @terrorfactoryfilms
    @terrorfactoryfilms 11 месяцев назад +1

    What a great test and breakdown Simon, thank you! I loved your 2019 test (still have it bookmarked in my browser) and am super thankful for the update! I do have one question, which might be a dumb one, but I am curious how "club golfer" is defined. I haven't heard that term much here in the U.S. Would that include mid-handicappers and/or mid-swing speeds? For instance, I'm a 10 hcp with driver speed of 100mph. I currently play the ProV1...but am seriously eyeballing the more modestly priced Triad and ERC Soft after your video and article. Thanks again for your time and talents in putting this all together!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks so much for the feedback, really appreciate you taking the time.
      Pretty much we see club golfer as anyone who's not playing to an elite level. In the UK we'd see that as County Level, handicap wise that means probably 5 and up. It takes in mid handicappesr, high handicappers and slow to quick (but not too fast) speeds.
      Hope that helps.

  • @LosSaintPatrick
    @LosSaintPatrick 11 месяцев назад +17

    Wilson & Maxfli really made an impressive showing!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely, we didn't see that coming!!!

    • @keithpanco
      @keithpanco 11 месяцев назад

      Found a Wilson Triad a few weeks back and played it. Got my 5th hole in one with it (and won a lot of money). It is straight because they use more weight on the peremiter of the core instead of the center.

    • @brett7011
      @brett7011 11 месяцев назад

      @@keithpanco so that possibly makes them less playable left to right

    • @keithpanco
      @keithpanco 11 месяцев назад

      @@brett7011 I believe that was the intention. They advertise it as a ball for those seeking to break 80. If you can't break 80, you don't need the ability to shape the ball.

  • @COFFIA
    @COFFIA 3 месяца назад

    Can you please explain, what exactly is different in X style ball? For example callaway chrome soft and chrome soft x ? Thank you .

  • @touristguy87
    @touristguy87 3 месяца назад

    Second regarding the chart calculations, what is the value of posting individual stats for each ball vs a +/- pct relative to average?
    and what about strike location on the clubface, and all that other neat strike data?
    I'd expect to see some clear groupings stand out, balls for spin, distance, spin & distance...that has to depend on strike location on the clubface and other strike parameters. So it would be nice to throw in a chart where you hit just one ball and vary the strike parameters

  • @MrAd6126
    @MrAd6126 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great review, fully data driven analysis with carefully selected way of measurement offering absolutely neutral results. Well done! Eye opening for me.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for taking the time to say so, much appreciated.

  • @billguy2847
    @billguy2847 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great review guys and I am a regular reader of your mag. Keep up the good work. With advancing years my swing speed has dropped below 90, more realistically mid 80's and while I have always used the Pro V1 I have been looking for what might give me best distance with overall performance. I have been trying the Tour Speed over the past few months but I don't see any reference to it in your tests and wonder why? I have to say I like the softer feel but on the downside note it marks quite easily, yet it seems to perform quite well.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your feedback Bill, it's much appreciated.
      There simply wasn't enough space to include every golf ball. Most frequently we hear the Pro V1 and Pro V1x names when golfers are talking Titleist golf balls, and the pair are seen very much as the benchmark that many are compared against. A fact much less true for the rest of the Titleist family. #HopefullyNextTime
      Hope that helps.

  • @philk4645
    @philk4645 8 месяцев назад

    wonder if you checked the balls for center of gravity before testing - wouldn't that have an impact on spin?

  • @ottawapop
    @ottawapop 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great job.. Certainly opens up possibilities to try other options in the off season.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it.

  • @antonmurphy1
    @antonmurphy1 11 месяцев назад +3

    Great video, great information and very well presented.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for taking the time to say so Anton, really appreciate your feedback.

  • @eggsmann594
    @eggsmann594 11 месяцев назад +1

    time stamps are awesome here

  • @andrewmcelvaney1303
    @andrewmcelvaney1303 10 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic work Simon and team, thank you for your efforts!
    Question - Any thoughts on why the Callaway Chrome soft X LS shot area seems to jump from 20.4 to 114.9 Sq yds when upping the driver speed from 100 MPG to 115MPH. I was expecting the lower spin to correlate more with accuracy. It sort of gets a bit 'wild'.
    Thanks all.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback Andrew, appreciate you taking the time.
      We'd only be speculating, but a single ball with a slightly off centre core could have this effect.
      Hence why we like to look at averages for accuracy and not focus too heavily into any particular single situation.
      Hope that helps.

  • @keendeesjarlais3636
    @keendeesjarlais3636 6 месяцев назад +1

    thx for the in-depth analysis - I swing my driver about 85mph, yup im a hundred yrs old!
    ive gravitated to - vice pro soft and the Srixon q star tour. and am enjoying them both.
    the b rxs aint a bad choice every once in a while also.
    im really getting used to those 3 for different applications, thats my game plan and it works for me.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback and your input, really appreciate you taking the time.

  • @loslobos9461
    @loslobos9461 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic! Looks like the ERC is what I’m gonna try. Tremendous information presented.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks so much for taking the time to say so, much appreciated.

  • @danielcohen3159
    @danielcohen3159 11 месяцев назад +13

    Thank you so much to Simon and the whole crew for all the hard work in compiling all this data and putting it all together. I'm a 3 hcp and I love the new ERC Soft, the Supersoft, and the Tour Response.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for taking the time to say so Daniel, really appreciate the feedback.
      Great to hear you've found your happy place when it comes to golf balls.

    • @theoakhills
      @theoakhills 11 месяцев назад

      I am 61 and play senior shafts and I play the Soft Response. They have minimal spin and an adequate rollout.

    • @danielcohen3159
      @danielcohen3159 11 месяцев назад

      That's another good one!@@theoakhills

  • @Bograt69
    @Bograt69 11 месяцев назад

    Is it possible to break the data down into the three categories of swing speed, and then rate the balls? I’m a club player, probably average 100mph swing, so the ball stats by swing speed would help.

  • @miguelduhamel3394
    @miguelduhamel3394 9 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic video just like the first one please keep making them ⛳️

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your feedback, appreciate you taking the time.

  • @PDel713
    @PDel713 11 месяцев назад +2

    Incredible work! Seen many best ball videos including MyGolf Spys independent review and this was superior. Was looking for the Titlesit Velocity as it continues to be the longest, even longer by a few yards than the Callaway Supersoft, for my 94 mph swing, but it lacks spin so Im going to try the Srixon QStar Tour based on your data. Thanks

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your feedback, very much appreciated.

    • @wango556
      @wango556 10 месяцев назад

      Titliest Velocity continues to be my longest ball. Wilson is right up there

  • @maxfn9728
    @maxfn9728 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great Study Thanks. Kirkland has a V3 ball out. Is there any indication yet of how it would compare to the version (V2) you tested?

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback. The Kirkland V3 hasn't hit our shores in the UK yet, when it does hopefully we can do something similar.

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 11 месяцев назад +4

    The test methodology was excellent but I do think you need to add a senior statistician and as indicated below it would be helpful to measure the manufacturing quality control (ie is it round, is there any bias, are weights consistent) and at the end of the test cut up every golf ball to see if you can see differences in quality control.
    As you said the data set for each type of ball is 12 shots with each club/speed combination. That is a relatively small data set and raises the issue of whether the differences between any 2 balls is statistically significant or merely by chance - and whilst I am not a fan of p- value tests, I am not a professional statistician, and you need someone with that skill set to determine the best statistical test applicable to each part of the data to determine whether differences in the data are statistically significant.
    IMO when you look at the data some clear things emerge. There is no statistically significant differences in ball speed or launch angles no matter what club is being used and what swing speed with a couple of exceptions at the highest swing speed there are differences if, but only if, you compare the lowest compression ball against the highest compression.
    Basically unless you have an extreme swing speed and are comparing extremes of compression, all golf balls irrespective of compression perform in terms of ball speed and launch angle the same - "soft is slow" is simply unsupportable by the data.
    There are only 3 variables which show any clear differences: spin rates, peak height and accuracy. Accuracy may be linked to manufacturing quality control so as mentioned above that needs to be tested.
    Titleist has traditionally had the best manufacturing QC but it is starting to look like Wilson are even better.

  • @TEKXS00D6
    @TEKXS00D6 8 месяцев назад +1

    Of course I'll hit the Like button. That video was tremendously informative! Now it's off to the web page to see what's there.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for taking the time to feedback, appreciate it.

  • @javieriglesias6556
    @javieriglesias6556 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great review Simon! Impressive stats and some surprising top performers. Re: Ball Accuracy, what if the balls tested were not being hit by the middle (sweet spot) of the club, do you think that would affect in any way the top performers on the list?

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Javier, appreciate you taking the time to say so. To be honest it's not something we've looked at, but would be interesting to explore if we can get back on a robot any time soon.

  • @jez443
    @jez443 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve been using the maxfli
    Tour recently. Best ball I’ve used for the price. Feels just as great as a ProV1 to me.

  • @funmachine3
    @funmachine3 3 месяца назад +1

    Bought a hodge podge of used balls when I started again last year. Always noticed I wasn’t losing Wilsons at the same rate as everything else. Thought I was crazy since Wilsons typically seen as lesser quality, thanks for confirming my findings 👍🏼

  • @jamiesloan7259
    @jamiesloan7259 3 месяца назад +2

    No wonder I’ve been loving the Wilson Staff Model. Long, and workable off the tee, with phenomenal green side spin.

  • @user-ms6yb3xb8q
    @user-ms6yb3xb8q 4 месяца назад +1

    Never had an issue with any Wilson ball... they are awesome

  • @alanlovesgolf3462
    @alanlovesgolf3462 11 месяцев назад

    Great video very many thanks for conducting the test. Noting the use of GC Quad… how is ball dimple aerodynamics taken into account? I’m assuming GCQuad uses the same model for each ball, and therefore you are not getting a complete assessment of the differences in ball dimple designs?

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Alan.
      If you really want to study aerodynamics a Trackman gives the best information at it picks up data points later in the balls flight. But it will also pick up any wind or conditions interference too. For this test we've just used Foresight's standard algorithm.
      Hope that helps.

  • @bmurray330
    @bmurray330 11 месяцев назад +3

    I will definitely try the Wilson balls after this extensive test. One thing you don’t have to worry about is marking your ball to determine if it is yours or not because they are Unicorn-like rare on the courses I play. In fact, I don’t think I have ever found a lost Wilson ball and I play ~50 rounds a year.

  • @ryanferebee7606
    @ryanferebee7606 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great work, thank you for your efforts!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for taking the time to say so Ryan, appreciate you feeding back.

  • @bobjenkins7457
    @bobjenkins7457 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have used the Wilson Triad and liked it a lot, it did however scuff up very easily and was pretty much done after two rounds.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your input Bob, appreciate you taking the time.

  • @bradleystuart8608
    @bradleystuart8608 8 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant work! Thank you

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback Bradley, appreciate you taking the time.

  • @s.k.7633
    @s.k.7633 10 месяцев назад

    great video, data and methodology. Not sure if I missed something on the shot area analysis. Is that based on extrapolation from two swings? If so, it seems to me the sample size is too small. I think 2 swing sample size for distance and most other metrics are reasonable given the two brand new balls consideration, If possible, I think for shot area analysis, brand new ball consideration is not important but more swings are needed. Then against, that does run into your robot time constraint.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback, the total shot area was averaged over 60 shots. That's 12 shots from each of the five situations.

  • @dronepocket325
    @dronepocket325 9 месяцев назад +2

    FTR I bought 4 dozen Staff Models, and they are as advertised here. Probably the best ball I have ever used

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  9 месяцев назад

      Great to hear Drone, really appreciate you feeding back.

  • @ajaytuk7416
    @ajaytuk7416 11 месяцев назад +1

    a lot of data, I will have to rewatch, thanks for doing this test! Is there any difference between white and yellow balls, ie does the paint effect the ball data?

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback, it's not something we've looked at yet...

  • @Bawkzers
    @Bawkzers 11 месяцев назад +2

    Wilson claims the Triad is a High MOI ball and it's nice your test confirms that. I've played it before and was pretty happy with it.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Great to hear, the results certainly opened our eyes.

  • @kooijbas
    @kooijbas 19 дней назад +1

    Fantastic video, thanks for all your efforts.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  19 дней назад

      Thanks so much for saying so, appreciate you feeding back.

  • @JohnCossyvas
    @JohnCossyvas 2 дня назад +1

    Kudos to you Simon,your cross referencing the spin and the dipersion rates explodes a lot of the myths the weekend golfers get stuck on,side question on wether or not in this test the just released Srixon Q star tour was tested? The compression has been increased by a couple of points to 74 to improve performance at the big speed end.And if not a possible chance of an update.Regards from Australia!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  День назад

      Thanks Jon, appreciate the feedback. This was the 2023 Q-Star Tour. We're just putting the finishing touches to this years robot golf ball test now, it should be live in a few weeks, the 2024 Q-Star Tour is included.
      Hope that helps.

  • @delamontagne9229
    @delamontagne9229 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Simon and The Loughborough University

  • @DanteBucciPhoto
    @DanteBucciPhoto 11 месяцев назад +8

    It would be great if you can take the data from each box of 12 balls and work out the average variance between balls in a box. The idea being which balls, in a dozen, perform the most equally from ball to ball. This is good to know as we may change our purchase if we know a certain brand/make will perform relatively the same from ball to ball.

  • @Pat_Mustard
    @Pat_Mustard 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic video and presentation of the data.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks Pat, really appreciate your feedback.

  • @falconeye577
    @falconeye577 11 месяцев назад

    Ok, I see a small issue
    My Driver swing is 85 (83 to 86) but my 7 Irons is not 80, more like 76
    The -5 MPH is not realistic with the much shorter club
    Glad to see I play the right balls
    I was glad to get data on the Driver Distance
    I was sure it was my new clubs being shorter than my older clubs
    but I see it is on target for the distance at my swing speed

  • @toddwmac
    @toddwmac 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great stuff...too bad you were not able to test the current version of the Kirkland...the V3 (the Red core vs. the yellow core)

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback, unfortunately Costco UK are still selling the V2 hence the inclusion. Fingers crossed that might change next year.

  • @kennymarsh3943
    @kennymarsh3943 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video. Thank you for the information. I have a driver swing speed around 117. My handicap is a 4.3 ... I'm going to try the maxfli tour x. I played the maxfli back in highschool 25 years ago. Gonna give it a try again.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  Месяц назад

      Great stuff Kenny, let us know how you get on.

    • @kennymarsh3943
      @kennymarsh3943 Месяц назад +1

      @todaysgolfer the ball was excellent. Great distance, really good feel around the green. Could control trajectory high and low very easily. I'm going to keep playing them.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  Месяц назад +1

      @@kennymarsh3943 Brilliant stuff Kenny.

  • @brucemackenzie3115
    @brucemackenzie3115 10 месяцев назад

    I vantage work out how the averages work? Driver average distance at 100mph overall for the test was higher than all the average numbers of the individual balls?

  • @jyouYT
    @jyouYT 11 месяцев назад +1

    Why weren't DTC balls tested, as the new Snell and Vice balls have been very highly reviewed especially at their price points. Great video, I had just picked up some Maxfli Tour Xs to try, glad I did.

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for the feedback, good to her you're liking the Maxfli.
      On the DTC balls. Our thinking was there’s only a couple of factories globally that can make urethane covered golf balls, that aren’t owned by Titleist, Callaway, Srixon, Bridgestone and TaylorMade.
      So, all the DTC companies that have started up over the last decade use the same couple of factories. Those factories and brands spend very little on R&D so there’s tiny amounts of difference between the golf balls they produce, and virtually all are sold as Pro V1 alternatives.
      On this occasion we took the decision to leave them all out, but perhaps a similar DTC only test in the future could be worthwhile, even if their performance is so very closely matched.

  • @jetwu0421
    @jetwu0421 10 месяцев назад

    I am wondering that dimple pattern of ball really affect the distance in reality or not.

  • @AVDFI1961
    @AVDFI1961 11 месяцев назад +3

    Well done Simon ,a great piece of work!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for your feedback, feels like somebody deserves a holiday.

    • @AVDFI1961
      @AVDFI1961 11 месяцев назад

      @@todaysgolfer I should think so after that a lot of work to provide really useful information to ordinary golfers. I have gone with the AD333 as my standard ball and stocked up on the TM RocketBallZ as a winter alternative

  • @nicholas1460
    @nicholas1460 11 месяцев назад +1

    Staggering analysis. Thanks!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for saying so. 👍

  • @abcoffee772
    @abcoffee772 11 месяцев назад +1

    great video, love the testing for those of us that can't!

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for taking the time to say so. Much appreciated.

  • @PastaPunisher77
    @PastaPunisher77 11 месяцев назад +2

    It’s just wild to me that we go through all these tests and see how well the Kirkland performs in the areas that are really needed from 110yds and in, then it doesn’t even make the list? Yes it did get out performed (marginally) by one or two three piece balls but it is seriously a third of the cost of all the other three-piece balls you tested and that is a huge factor when purchasing. I’ll put it this way if you’re purchasing three piece balls as a club golfer and you don’t have Kirklands in your bag then get some!

  • @tjfrancis9821
    @tjfrancis9821 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a scratch golfer and bought my 12 year old daughter some pinnacle rush golf balls. I decided to use one and let me tell you, they are long and I can spin them around the green. They also felt soft, I was dumbfounded :)

  • @rogeliomendez9135
    @rogeliomendez9135 11 месяцев назад +1

    Was gaming CSLS and ping balnamic suggested I try CSX. Have shot some of my best scores with thst ball

    • @todaysgolfer
      @todaysgolfer  11 месяцев назад

      The Chrome Soft X is a really good golf ball, a blend of a lot of things.

  • @yongminkim6544
    @yongminkim6544 11 месяцев назад +1

    very interesting! Thanks!