Pre-Amp Out?! Connect 3, 4 or MORE Speakers to 1 Zone with WS66i/DAX66/Monoprice Whole Home Audio!
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Many people ask me every week, how can I have more than 2 speakers in a zone? When I mention the pre-amp outputs, they ask "What is that"? "How does it work"? Can I have 3 or 4 speakers? What about a zone where I want 8 speakers? Well guess what, this VIDEO IS FOR YOU!!
0:00 - 9:00 Showing hooking up 3 or 4 speakers without using pre-amp out
9:00 - 16:00 Talking about the Soundavo MZ series amplifier and explaining
16:00 - 21:00 Demonstrating pre-amp outputs and demonstrating the MZ series amp with conjunction of the WS66i whole home amp
This concept works for connecting your 5.1 channel surround sound as a zone as well! 
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Thank you for uploading this video.
These demonstrations are gold!
Good work and explanation
Stumbled on your videos when looking at a simple 2ch amp on amazon. Found those single/standalone units, wanted to see some reviews.... then your videos popped up. Watched it for 15 minutes and ended up buying the WS661 kit using your code. One happy camper here
You will love it, let me know if you have need any help or have questions and i'll be here!
@@TheKMZ1 Hi how can I control the volume on this unit while using it as a bi amp with a av receiver
Great videos! For the WS66i, can I connect speakers to zone 1 and use the zone 1 pre-amp output for my home theater receiver at the same time?
Awesome channel and super helpful. I'm building a new construction home here in Florida as we speak and will be entering the framing phase in the next month or so. I will definitely be picking your brain! Would love to share my house plans with you and get your thoughts on how you would set everything up.
At 17:50, one comment regarding the volume control per channel. I'm thinking that's actually a really good feature (more so than you elaborated on) as it lets you balance the perceived stereo if your speakers cannot be equally spaced from your "design location" i.e. the spot you plan to enjoy the sound from (e.g. the living room couch). Its a great tuning feature for anyone to know about when designing their home audio if they have to place speakers in less than ideal locations due to obstructions etc. I figure any entry level hobbyist or designer would find that to be a useful feature in situations so figured I'd mention it here! Great video and really enjoyed the thorough explanations.
Yes, you actually make a great point. I had not thought about that case, where some speakers in some locations in a large zone may need to have their volume tuned differently. Great catch!!! The MZ series amp let's you fine tune each "zone" on that amp, which ultimately in the scenario I shared, would belongs all to 1 WS66i zone
thank you so much
thanks bro,
I have a sonance dab1 since 2007 for a whole home audio system. Still works perfectly to this day but only thing It lacks is the ability to connect to the internet
Vince, Very helpful, informative details on whole home audio wiring! ??? If a guy were to parallel wire 2 speakers off one pair of another zones pair to a volume control first, b 4 going to the speaker set....would it mess up the impedance/ohms?
The video is awesome and informational. You just need a tripod lol
Thanks for taking your time to teach us.
With second pre-amp connected, can you use input sources like Bluetooth or radio to send out the all zones or specific zones? Very good video…
Really cool and helpful video, I really wanna try something like this with heos. camera quality could use some improvement though 🤣🤣
Ik I don't have pro equipment lol
hi - was interested in installing a few speakers around the house and had no idea where to start. Saw your channel and everything made sense lol. Purchased the ws66i with your discount (thank you). I have a question for one of the zones. In my basement I have a tv and a sonos soundbar. I will be installing 2 speakers that I would like to incorporate with the soundbar in one zone. How do I accomplish that? how do I add that soundbar to ws66i so Its a surround sound with tv and the 2 speakers and then have it please music when I want just that. Thank you in advance and keep up the great work.
Nice
Awesome video, Ive had my heart set on using Jensen Elite 303 wall speakers and Elite 303 ceiling speaker in a way you just described in the video, home theater as a zone then 2-3 other zones. But the speakers at 6ohms 150watts. What are my options with amps to run the system
Hi! Great video! What are these speakers that you are using in your video? Could you please advise on a Speakers model and specs please?
Sure! I actually have a video on them in more detail here ruclips.net/video/mUrkIHvwFf8/видео.html
Your videos have sold me to invest in the WS66i for our home about to be built. Question- what is the best way to be able to switch between TV audio inputs? We will have TVs in living room, patio, pool bar, etc and ideally would like to be able to swap inputs as needed. I only see 2 RCA input and 1 optical input. These will be pretty long cable runs if that matters... I also believe TVs are phasing out RCA output and worried we will lay cable through the house that will obsolete soon. I might want to watch the game in the pool bar with audio from that TV playing through those speakers and my wife might want to be watching a movie in the living room with that audio coming through the living room speakers. I am a novice audio guy and appreciate any advice.
I really would like to see a demo of making a AV Home theater connected to the multi zone controller and how to achieve using the speakers for home theater for the tv sound but also be able to use them for the whole home audio.
hello one more question, what type of cable am I running for the sources ( if I want to listen to the tv from the speakers) to the Amp
Do you have to use the wall mount controller for volume on all inputs ? Or does each input volume work on its own - TV, Bluetooth, computer etc ?
Hi, how would you extend the preamp out rca from ws66i to an amplifier which is in other room. You would not run very long cables, right? So what device, and if possible tell the model, that you will put in between to extend the rca and not introduce noise or lose signal?
Would the WS66i have enough wattage to power two 125w 8ohm speakers in parallel in one zone? (speakers are in a fairly built room) if not which amp would you recommend that is similar to the WS66i but with more Wattage per zone?
The only thing its missing is ARC/eARC id be all in if it did, so i could set up a 7.1 surround sound off zone 1 passed through into the external amp.
Sonos Amp has that
Hey mate, if I was to connect my speakers to channels whilst running the amp in parallel, how do you fit multiple speaker wires into a single channel? The channel inputs are quite narrow and small?
Thanks for the explanation. Looking to buy one of these systems. A question I had was can you connect a sub to this amp or pre amp?
The WS66i amplifier by itself can't have a sub, but you could buy a separate smaller amplifier that does support that, and then hook it up using the pre amp outputs, and then that zone would have a sub and it would be all controllable by the amp as if it were no different!
Excellent explanations. Thank you. Been watching your videos but haven’t figured out how to connect Sundavo ws66i to SmartThings + Alexa so I can control whole house audio WIRED speakers through voice control. Any suggestions? Or do I need to buy something other than a ws66i?
Currently the ws66i is not controllable by alexa, in the sense that you cant tell alexa to turn a particular speaker zone on/off or change sources. BUT you can get somewhat of an alexa control, watch this video of mine and let me know what you think! Currently this is the best solution as of now ruclips.net/video/jY1eTjkCwcE/видео.html
Do either of these amps support Samsung TVs audio streaming??
Will you be doing any videos on lighting home automation? Is the 2018 video still the best option? Thanks
Hey! I would like to do more on that, I can't make any promises as to when but I would like to. To answer your question, Insteon is still, a very good choice. Since that video I don't think I have done any maintenance on that system at all. The alexa integration still works, and it's been great. For my own house, I think I may consider exploring Home Assistant, it seems like a popular choice among others, but I think the direction you choose, should determine if you want to do some manual setup stuff like getting a Raspberry Pi working, OR do you want to just buy a device such as the ISY994i that has the software already running and you never have to deal with more manual (and technical) stuff.
Or you could just get a 70v/100v multizone amp if you don't need the streamers inside and essentially hook up as many speakers as you want, depending on the max volume you wanna crank.
My only other issue with these systems is they need to have Chromecast and Alexa built in. With the discontinuation of Chromecast audio, getting and 'dumb' speaker or amp to integrate with the Nest ecosystem is prismatic and is mostly solved by using HDMI audio extractors with regular chromecasts.
Hey man, I’m going to buy the Dayton audio DAX66 6 Zone and I would to hook up four speakers per zone, but I’m trying to decide which speakers should I get? I’m looking for 8 ohm speakers, and does the watts matter?? Please let me know. Thank you.
Thnx forma the video. 😊 ?? If I want to come out of my avr receiver but be able to turn on and of different zones or play all zones with Alexa (same source no different sources ever). Say kitchen, dining, outdoor and living room in same area but only want to listen in one of the areas. Help
wat is the name of the gadget you are using to play music with?
hi pls l have 52 speakers with 6inch 40watts what size of amplifier should l buy thanks😊
WS66i can power up to four 8 Ohms speakers in parallel.
So how many 8 Ohms speakers can I connect in parallels, for 1 zone, if I am now using the MZ amp?
I have 1 zone that requires 12 speakers. would they all be connected in parallels in zone 4 of the MZ amp like you did in this video?
You mention that you can have a third speaker by going parallel on either the left channel or right channel. Would the unbalance the L/R pair? I’m looking at adding a third speaker into our master bath
I have not noticed a difference. I think it'd be pretty hard to tell of any imbalances
Love your videos mate, you've helped me a lot in preparation for my house build (coffees incomming!).
Quick question - if I used 16 speakers in 4 zones on the DAX66 using parallel as you have described, would the quality or volume degrade in those 4 zones compared to just having 8 speakers?
Hey Vince! Thanks for watching, To my knowledge no they would not degrade, because despite having more speakers, the specs of the amp say it can handle a 4 ohm load per channel, and that is exactly what you would be doing (assuming you use standard 8 ohms speakers which most are). So no I would not be concerned myself. What makes you think about the DAX66 vs the WS66i
@@TheKMZ1 fantastic! This means I could push to use 16 speakers over 4 zones, very happy with that coverage! I went with the DAX66 a few days before seeing this video :( Unsure if I can even get the WS66i shipped to Sydney, Australia?
@@cenz11 let me check to see what the shipping cost would be, I will get back to you
It will be about $240 to ship
I wiil like to set it up on 4-ohoms all 24-speakers
So if I understand this, if you want to switch between using your speakers for while home audio and using them for surround sound when watching TV, then you will have to physically move the switches on the back between bus input and channel input.
No, this amplifier is not meant for surround sound, I was just commenting that the same connections with the pre amp apply, but you would swap out this MZ amp with your surround sound amp. But yes, on your surround sound amp, you would likely have to switch your surround sound source to your pre amp source, and then when you want to watch a movie, change your surround sound source to HDMI or whatever it is on your surround amp.
@@TheKMZ1 oh okay thanks.
This system looks good. My only concern is seems power is too low per channel. For the 8" IC-860CF, 25 watts seems limited. What is your experience? Do you have to keep the volume at max level? Thanks
No not at all. The system goes to volume 38 on the keypads. Loud is usually 14...a college party would be like 20 to 25. In my experience there has never been an issue and I've not heard of anyone that reported back to me that they had issues after I told them the same. I think you'll love it!
I have 24 speakers for the whole house what kind of set-up can I do
I have some situations. I bought a house and it has 6 multi zone speakers in built already. Unfortunately seller took the system with them. It is Nuvo MP3 Docking Station NV-I8DEZP. Now NUVO doesn't sell this model as they have been bought by Legrand. Can you suggest anything with reasonable price solutions. Also some zone has multiple speakers (patio has 6 speakers) and living room has 8 speakers and Kitchen has 4 speakers. Other zone has 2 speakers. Need serious help!!!!!!! Best Buy came to see and proposing 2.5K worth system and they don't have any idea but only sell the product.
Hello, I was curious if I run the preamp out does it use both amplifiers or just the preamp out? Also, I have 7 speakers 2 subs 5 speakers are for surround sound and the other 2 speakers are for my kitchen. How would I achieve hooking those up and being able to watch a movie on one and music in the other or listen to music on all?
You can run the pre-amp out, as well as that zone's built in one at the same time and they will work just fine. The reason why, is because the pre-amp out was actually built for those that want to use the pre-amp out to add a subwoofer to the zone. So they would use the built in amp for the speakers, and the pre-amp out for the sub. So yes both can be used no issues at all
think about getting the ws66i. Is the sound quality affected when you chain the speakers together. Does it weaken the output?
No because the total impedance (the ohms that the amps sees) is still within it's normal operating range.
What are the the RCA outputs for on the back of the amp that state pre amp? Does that mean that zone doesn't push the music through the amp, just the sound so you can connect it to the another amp? For example. I would like to run one of my zones into my living room but connected it to the surround sound, and not thru the wall controller. Is this how this works?
Walks into the middle of a movie, wants to know what’s going on, just doesn’t want to watch.
Those are both multi zone amplifiers 🤔
The amplifier that better suits a larger number of speakers is the 70v/100v model that would be connected through the pre-amp output.
Can the zone switches turn the receiver on and off or do you leave it constant on?
Leave it on constantly. I did a video on my channel a few years back about how much it costs per year to leave the amplifier on all the time. It's meant for that, I've had mine on 3 years and never had a problem. My parents house on since 2018 and no issues
I have a weird one... I have 3 pairs of speakers. 6 speakers total... I only have left/right channel and a subwoofer connection on my stereo which says it can handle between 6-16 ohms.
My 2 house speakers are 8 ohms... and both pairs of bookshelf speakers are 6 ohms each. So right now, I have the house speakers hooked up straight/normal to left and right. Then I have the bookshelf speakers hooked up in series together, then in parallel to the left/right channels.
So it's an 8ohm and 2 6ohm's in series on each left/right channel. Would that be 8 + (6+6) /2 = 10? or,,, 8 + (6+6 /2) /2= 7 ohms... either way I should be in the range of my amplifier. But I'm really curious what the math on that would be.
I originally had all 3 set up in series and the volume decreased by about 20% or more. It was 8+6+6 on each left/right channel. I'm not sure if that was putting a 20 ohm strain on my amp but it definitely didn't sound as good as the parallel series combo I switched it to.
How do u wire for the zone controller
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I thought wiring in parallel will damage the amp. I thought you have to wire in series to have multiple speakers. Is that incorrect?
That is incorrect, what damages the amplifier is having an unstable load seen by the amp. So either way high, or way low impedance. This amp is stable at 8 ohms and 4 ohms load, so by wiring your left channel in parallel with 2 speakers will be a 4 ohm load, and same on the right side it would be a 4 ohm load and this amp would be perfectly fine and within it's operating conditions. Heck, you could even get crazy and do one side with 4 speakers, 2 in parallel... which could be in series with another 2 in parallel. That would be 4 ohms + 4 ohms = 8 ohms load at the amp. So the point is wiring it in a way where the load seen by the amp is safe. Edit: this was all assuming standard 8 ohm ceiling speakers in my example.
Can you parallel a 3 speaker zone set up at the amp?
Yeah you would have your right (or left) side having only 1 speaker and then your other side would have the paralleled speaker so that means that side would have 2 on it. Some people ask if it sounds weird or if you can tell a difference that one side has an extra and not supposedly "balanced" and no, my ears can't tell. It's pretty rare to be able to tell, unless I guess maybe you are in the audio industry... But no it sounds just fine
Looking for an amp to run four speakers which will be connected to my WS66I. They are outdoor rock speakers. Two are eight ohms 200 W max and the other two are eight ohms 150 W max.
have you considered first trying to run them off of your WS66i? You can run 2 on the left channel in parallel which would be a 4 ohm load, and you can run 2 on the right channel in parallel which would be a 4 ohm load on that side as well. Or are you really wanting more, so you would prefer to use an external amp with the pre-am outputs?
@@TheKMZ1 I could try running them off of the WS66I, but I just figured they would need more power especially for outside use. I previously had them connected to a Sonos amp, Which pushes 125 W x 2, and really liked the sound. I was potentially looking at one of the Soundavo a stereo amps and curious what your thoughts are or if you had a different amp you would recommend. Thanks much
If it was me, I would first try running them off of the WS66i. At 4 ohms it would be putting out 50 watts on your left channel and 50 watts on your right channel. I know this sounds like a lot less than you had been running, but when you double your amplifier wattage, you do not double your output sound. You can look this up, but doubling your amp power will result in a +3db noise change. So you could get a 100 watt amplifier and only experience + 3 decibels higher output. There are better amplifiers out there of course, but my point in mentioning all of this is that before spending money, I personally would test it out with the WS66i. Then if you are still feeling like it is lacking, then I would go down the pre-amp output route. Hopefully this helps. I have not experienced their Soundavo CSA stereo amps, but I do have one of their PSA commercial amps that looks just like the CSA model and really like it. It is for another project I'm working on. I have been super happy with their other amps, and so I would definitely give that a try if you were wanting to. They do sell those models on Amazon.
@@TheKMZ1 awesome, will do. It is always worth trying the free route first.
Great videos. I recently bought a ws66i for installation (based on great info in your videos), and am verifying final install options. I tested using both speaker channels out and preamp simultaneously on the same zone, and both the channels and preamp produce audio at the same time...but my question is what are the specs doing that? How is the power shared between the two channels out to individual 8ohm speakers along with also using pre-amp out? I was considering using a single zone for channels out to a pair of speakers (or bridged to single?), and preamp out to sub amp...but I can't find the specs. Second question...what sounds better out of the amp...a single 8ohm speaker at 25W per channel or two parallel 8ohm speakers using 4ohm and 50W? Not sure why the second option wouldn't be best. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! When you are using the built in amplifier, the specs will be what you see in the manual. And the pre-amp outputs are not doing any of the powering, whatever your external amplifier you have hooked up to the pre-amp outputs is doing the powering to those speakers. The pre-amp outputs are just passing along the source data such as volume level, EQ, bass, etc. So there is no spec when using that because it's the spec of your other external amp. Hopefully that makes sense? I think your last question depends on if you need 2 speakers or 4 speakers in that particular zone right? Or am I misunderstanding? If you had 2 speakers on 1 channel in parallel, that means that zone has 4 speakers no? Technically speaking, I think the 4 ohm load will be producing a louder volume at a lower volume number on the amp because there is less resistance. The amp is stable at both 4 and 8 ohms so I think you really won't get much noticeable difference which is why i would base the decision off of whether or not you need 2 speakers or 4 speakers in that zone.
@@TheKMZ1 awesome - thanks for the quick info! For the the preamp portion, I didn't want to take away power from the two channels, but seems like it's ok to run those along with pre-amp to sub amp...for all controlled at one zone. Great demo on two parallel speakers in your video, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something...I'd prefer four speakers per zone (2 parallel per channel) to cover the space...will run with that! This is for an outdoor patio, using all six zones in various areas...mostly under cover run through new construction but with a couple zones run further out with CL3 underground wire.
Sounds like a fun project!!
Are you still able to make the 18 pin cable connectors? I need one for my system.
Yes how long do you need?
@@TheKMZ1 thanks for you quick reply. I’ll need about 24 inches. I can pay you via Zelle. It is the fastest. Or if you prefer a different method. Just let me know. I’m not sure if this is a secure way of sending my shipping address. But I’d like to get it from you as soon as possible. I’d like to ask a few other question of advice from you and I’d be more then happy to pay you for your time. I have been running wire in my new build home with in ceiling drop down tv’s. Not sure if I need a key pad for each TV or not.
@@Jeff-sv9mo zelle works for me, can you email me support@kztechconsulting.com
Few questions. Where does the source come from? I'm guess some type of wireless device like phone, laptop, tablet, etc? You mentioned cd player so does the ws66i have capability to play from a wireless device and something hardwired like an old school cd or even record player? in regards to the 2 wireless antennas, is that for a wireless device to connect to? Meaning, 2 phones can connect to the amp? Does the amp intergrate with 3rd party switches? Like the Brilliant Switch (If you haven't heard of it, look it up. Cool smart switch from what I read) I going through a massive renovation and looks are a factor with what I would like in a whole house audio. Are those keypads still super bright?
This video might help explain more of the WS66i features ruclips.net/video/VMUl4TANpmw/видео.html but to answer some of your questions, the amp has 6 sources, 2 are wireless streaming, 2 are RCA inputs, 1 is digital optical cable, and 1 is 3.5mm. Yes you can stream from your phone/tablet to it, and yes you can also hardwire in a source, such as a CD, record player, even a phone 3.5mm, really anything you can find a way to input it. I think the "2 wireless antennas" I think you are confusing that, those are the 2 wireless streamers, that allow you to cast music to the amplifier from your phone/tablet. Yes 2 phones can connect to the amp and play separate things. The amplifier does not integrate with other 3rd party switches. They keypads are still bright, but you can watch this video and you can get the brightness down ruclips.net/video/RLN7CAil3a4/видео.html
@@TheKMZ1 Thanks. Much clearer now. I'll check to see if there is an integration. Many smart switch integrate with Sonos so maybe there something. You've definitely help narrow my choice down to the Soundavo. Keep making the vids man.
@@rvernet2016 sounds good! You won't be disappointed, they are great and work very well.
Does Monoprice make an amplifier that should allow you to do this. Soundavo is a little pricey compared to the Monoprice whole home amplifier. I Couldn’t find an amplifier on their site that would do what the MZ series does though.
Which soundavo is pricey? The MZ series and the WS66i series are a little different for their purposes. So i'm curious which one you are interested in.
I like to wire my basement
Speaker wire to app
Cat5e or cat6 controller to amp
What wire do I use for source ???
You are talking about the WS66i system? There are 2 build in wireless streaming sources. Then the remaining sources can be RCA inputs. You can make your own custom RCA cables using coax cable. 1 coax for the left channel (white) in the RCA and 1 more coax cable for the right channel (red). There is a digital optical cable input, and there is also a 3.5mm jack input.
Can i use the bridging feature to get more power for 4 speakers . For instance bridge 2 zones to power 2 speakers and 2 zones to power the other 2?
Not really, if you need more power that is what the pre-amp outputs are for, so you would hook up an external amp for that particular zone. When you bridge, the power goes up but your output becomes mono instead of stereo
@TheKMZ1 I don't like the idea of bridging and losing stereo.
This video makes me think by adding a 2nd set of 8 ohm speakers to my zone will enable me to run unbridged in stereo, yes?
how can you achieve having all my devices play through any zone?? game counsel, music, cable tv...etc?
That is what the WS66i is for, check out my channel for more information and a good discount code! The ws66i lets you have 2 wireless streaming sources, plus 4 other physical input sources. Any of the 6 sources can be played in any of the zones. Each zone can pick whatever it wants. Let me know if you have any questions
How could you add an ACTIVE sub to one of the zones?
You're external amplifier would have to support it, and then you'd use the pre amp out to connect that external amp
Can you connect your TV to the speakers and have the sound from your TV being broadcast over your speakers? If so, how would that be done? I don't need surround sound, just wanting a better and louder sound than from my TV.
It depends on your tv but usually yes. Usually your tv has an audio setting where it'll use internet speakers + output. That output is usually through digital optical cable, and some TVs have RCA output as well. But yes most TVs allow it!
@@TheKMZ1 I have smart TV with a digital optical cable. Do I have to connect the optical cable to an amplifier and than into the speakers? Is there any way to avoid going thru and amplifier and connect the optical cable to the speakers directly? Thank you!
@@richardsteinmetz235 Unfortunately no, you need something to drive the speakers (power), optical cable is only an audio signal, so you will definitely need an amplifier to do that
how would you achieve the opposite of having the surround sound receiver be the source and then using the whole home to broadcast that?
So you are saying the source audio is coming from the surround sound receiver? So in what I described, the pre amp out connected to an aux input from the surround sound. Wouldn't you connect an OUTPUT from the surround sound, into a source input (such as one of the RCA input) into the whole home audio Amp? That would be my thought
@@TheKMZ1 I have receivers now and I have airport expresses connected to them so I want to use the main receiver to broadcast that signal across the whole house using the soundavo system including the surround speakers that are connected to the receiver. And then also still have my clear 7.1 to use on its own when we're only watching a movie in the space that it's in. I can't wrap my head around on how to achieve this. Is the answer that I can't use my 7.1 speakers for whole home audio and separately, isolated movies?
May 6 floor
1floor 20 speak
2nd floor 15
3rd floor 25
Total 125 speak
Plz give solution
As I understand WS66i can be connected to the PC (windows) and controlled from the PC (windows)? Also is it possible to connect a microphone to the WS66i unit and send the audio from the microphone to the all 6 zones? In my setup I have 4 streamers and a microphone that I need to connect to the WS66i. 4 streamers because I want to have 4 zones and listen to the different content in the each zone. But I need to be able to send the signal from the microphone to these 4 zones simultaneously and control this functionality from the PC (windows).
Is it possible with WS66i unit?
Will greatly appreciate your reply!
Thanks in advance!
Technically it could be connected to the PC but i would have to build a windows app to do that. I do not know of anything out there right now that does that. The control is usually done by either A) the keypads, or B) the smart phone app. The WS66i does not have a mic mixer built in, which means it does not support a microphone out of the box. It also is not a paging system. It sounds like the WS66i may not be the amplifier for you, it does not support paging and currently is not controllable through windows like you are anticipating being able to control it.
Is it possible to use 2 to 4 Zones on one source?
Yes absolutely, any zone can tune into whatever source they want to listen to. Any of them
Are there any restrictions or limitations on the amp you connect to the zone preouts? I have older amps (Hafler DH-500's @ 255 Watts/Ch and Adcom 555 @ 200 Watts/Ch) that I want to connect to certain zones so I can drive my power-hungry beast speakers (Dahlquist DQ-10's in case anyone's interested!). Am I OK with this setup? My understanding is the Monoprice 10761 and Dax88 can also do this.
I notice you also disconnected the speakers from the Phoenix block before connecting the preouts to the other amp. Is this necessary? If not, how do you switch between the two sets of speakers (or can you?)
No restrictions, the whole home audio amp is passing all data (source, EQ, bass, etc) through those cables. Whatever it can plug into will work and then that amp will take over from there. It's analog so whatever it can be a source into, then you are good
Thanks. I have a few other questions on your other videos related to WHA. Looking forward to learning more! Great vids!!@@TheKMZ1
Good morning , I just purchase the WS66I, I have a question, How many speakers
can I put on zone 1
4, I have a video on my channel showing how
@@TheKMZ1 THANKS
How do you hook up MZ for home theater surround sound application. It doesn’t specify for sub front or surround sound
the MZ is not a home theater surround amp
Any suggestions for home theater AV amp that will work well with WS66i
@@jitlothe346 I don't think that it will. The WS66i appears to be a two channel amp, so it doesn't pass more than two channels from the source to the output/zone (thus only red and a white RCA connectors on the back).
Hello sir
If you “daisy chained” your speakers together, why isn’t that considered the speakers being wired in series?
Maybe this picture will show the difference images.app.goo.gl/BgGaUWLXDGVkz9qMA basically I'm not running a big looped ring to connect them together. All of my positives are connected together and all my negatives are connected together. Google speakers series vs parallel and there's other good images that show the difference
What would cause this system to produce low sound and a lot of static from the speakers. All connections seem to be secure. Happens when streaming from my phone as well. Was working fine, I went to use ittoday and loud static came on and then after going to a different room, low music and a lot of static was produced. I disconnected all other sources and the static still exists.
I had a Dayton audio dax66 do this on me a few years ago. Horrible static. It was under warranty and they exchanged it. So it's something inside. What amp do you have?
@@TheKMZ1 I have the WS66i... I opened the amp up and inspected everything inside, I didn't see anything fried, so I closed it up and switched out the surge protector. It seems to be working, but I haven't tried multizone or multi-source. Only one source and one zone. I'm going to try to play more zones and sources tomorrow and see what happens...
Sorry if this has been discussed, but do you go from WS66i 4ohm out right to 8ohm speakers? I’m setting up an all home and want stereo in each room, not a bridged circuit. Any thoughts?
Just go from the green Phoenix connectors from the amp, right to your speaker. The amp can have a load of 4 or 8 ohms either one it's stable and acceptable
@@TheKMZ1 ok thanks. Not sure how stable the output of the WS66i was. Soundavo suggested I use bridge mode..?
@@jackslocum639 without knowing how you are trying to hook them up it's hard for me to say. But I have a zone with 3 and 4 speakers as described in this video and no issues. And regular zones that have 2 8 ohm speakers are just hooked up normally. So unless you are doing something different?
@@TheKMZ1WS66i Bought 4 Soundavo ev-650s to be used in 2 zones. Unless I’m reading wrong WS66i rated 4ohms per speaker and each Soundavo speaker is rated 8ohms. Still in planning stages but loos like any/all ceiling speakers are 8 ohms. So I guess no worries.
@@jackslocum639 Output Power: 25W x 2 per zone (at 8Ω)
Output Power: 50W x 2 per zone (at 4Ω)
Output Power: 100W per zone (Bridged at 8Ω)
So you are looking at getting 25W each speaker with 8 ohms, no issues
How do you feel about the Lync6 ?
I've never used it, but here is one main reason why. When my first whole home audio video got popular on my channel, a lot of people were asking me to compare the monoprice unit with the htd amps. I reached out to them and asked if I could get a unit sent to me to review, and they were very stuck up about it. They said they didn't want to be compared at the monoprice level because they were better than that. I tried to explain that what they wanted, and what users were seeing, were 2 different things and my video could have helped show that, but instead they said no. Apparently they were or still are disconnected with others are seeing. They need to look through another set of eyes and not just what they want. So, because they were so stuck up about it...and now the soundavo unit has so many more built in features at a better cost... My go to recommendation is the WS66i. Here are a few other things to consider: htd is more expensive, their lync units will take up more room because they have the secondary amp to power the speakers. With the Soundavo, they have the pre-amp outputs also, so you can still achieve more power if you need to, just like the htd system. Soundavo has the app control built in, and htd is a separate component. So in general I think the WS66i will be a cleaner install. Im not saying htd is bad, I know they have quality stuff. But there are cheaper alternatives that do the same, and have the same features. Some other differences would be the look of the keypad. Let me know if you have any questions
Yeah I see what you mean. Only thing I like better about htd is the daisy chaining of the keypads for different inputs for a cleaner install and not having to purchase all these extra converters to hook up multiple TVs in digital optical. Thanks for your input much appreciated
@@SS-br1kc no problem!
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Hello there, I have the mono price 10761 6channels can I put20 speaker with this model please let me know.
Yes you could technically do that without adding an additional amplifier. 6 zones each could have 4 speakers which = 24
But in order to do better design, I'd have to know more, so I was just answering your question. Can you? Yes is the answer
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