Ryan, exceptional research again in this fascinating presentation. I wonder too that improvements in aircraft design, avionics and as you’ve pointed out crew training are giving all airlines better safety performance. Yes, I would fly with this airline. From a safety point of view I see little difference between them and other major airlines. Yes, once we might have said Qantas because of their safety history but these days I’d think twice. You truly have reached the top of my list of aviation RUclipsr’s with exceptional production skills, quality filming, passion for food and that great sense of humour that shines through in your videos. As always looking forward to the next presentation 🤗
@@james7149 thanks mate. Much appreciated, kind words. I use the term "pilot error" very loosely because there is so much more behind that which I won't have the time to cover for this 20min video. The chain of events for each accident is pretty astounding and happened VERY quickly. In that Nagoya incident, 100secs is all it took from the first signs of trouble to impact. So yeah, fascinating facts uncovered but damn I wished I had time to cram it all in. 😂
@ Ryan, thanks for replying, the point you make re: 100 seconds is remarkable…your skills shine through in what you cover in a short time frame with these videos. I and I’m sure many of your subscribers really appreciate seeing so much information provided in around 20 minutes!
Another fantastic video man. Didn’t know that the Hamburger meal had a Japanese variation. On a side note, your pronunciation of the airport names is/are impeccable. It’s actually soothing to listen to! I would absolutely cluelessly butcher the pronunciation if I ever tried haha.
Thanks man... I cannot take the credit. All I'm good at is imitation... So I listen to what Google tells me, and I regurgitate everything out, for the Japanese bit at least. As for Mandarin, well it's my 3rd spoken language. 😏
Good video Ryan. It was informative- I knew China Airlines had some historical problems but not to this extent. It is a brilliant airline now so make sure this is emphasised please.
Definitely, and that's how I attempted to end the video - on a high. I do have ANOTHER CAL video for this series so rest assured it's all positive. But we cannot appreciate the good unless we've seen how bad it was, right? Cheers...
It certainly is a grim overview of CI, but as you pointed out they have upped their game, and I would gladly fly their AKL - BNE sector if need be. Cheers Ryan. Happy travels M8 x
CI has come a long way and improved a lot from its not so glorious past. I have flown with them multiple times and have always enjoyed their catering and service. I hope they will continue to maintain their safety records. 💪🏼
@@uncleken3599 don't think the powers that be will ever allow CI to return that where they were. They've worked so bloody hard to get to where they are today. Isn't it funny that my family flew them very frequently from 1981 to 1990, blissfully unaware of their shocking record? We shuttled between Singapore and HK every 3 to 6 months.
Their safety record has improved tremendously in the last decade and a half, tapering down to zero accidents. So yes, I'd like to think only good things ahead.
Great history. Yup, I remember the crashes during the 80s and 90s. Not sure if given geopolitics these days I would transit at Taiwan, but it's less a blight on your passport than China.
China is not dumb to risk the political fall out should they invade Taiwan. Yes, there's lots of chest beating chest puffing from the mainland about reunification. But look at what happened in HK, you'd think Taiwan would go that way? Hardly. Unlike HK, Taiwan isn't a territory... It's an actual country. So yeah, nothing will happen anytime soon to change this status quo.
Agree 💯! Especially when CI's planes started to fall out of the sky back in those days, I'm sure EVA was in a very enviable position as a dependable alternative.
Just to make everyone a bit less worried about China Airlines....... They've actually started to ask Evergreen Group to do their maintenance recently. So the rest will be left to human error on their side.
@@EpicThe112 I wouldn't consider China Airlines as EVA Air's "competitor" in a traditional sense. China Airlines is state owned while EVA Air is a private company. Both airlines will also be asked by the government on state missions from time to time and tends to work together whenever one side has trouble on the ground. So it's more of a healthy competitor rather than serious rivals.
CI used to be a laughing stock but it is now almost on par or even better than Singapore Airlines. I would only fly SQ from SIN to TPE 20 years ago but I prefer to fly Taiwanese carriers to Taipei nowadays.
Well yes and no, wrt to CI being better than SQ. In terms of consistency, yes SQ is tops. But SQ's cookie cutter factory churning out of their FAs does leave out the warmth factor, which CI does very well because their warm hospitality is natural.
Quite misleading it makes viewers think its still happening now. Granted you touched on it slightly that its better now. Many airlines has bad histories however its now one of the safest airlines in the world.
That title is sadly still very current. In fact, CAL is only beaten by American Airlines by the lives lost, but bear in mind AA is many times larger than CAL. And yes, I agree CAL is top notch these days. There is another video about CAL for this series, and rest assured it's a positive one.
It was until the airline reformed itself from top to bottom, they fired the pilots who could not pass the simulator test, and fired the execs that allowed the shitty pilots in. They haven't had a crash since the 2000s.
Hi airline, please use clean fuel. I see the stripes from China aeroplanes for hours in the clean sky above the Altai mountains. Of course with rain and snow it comes down on earth , also in our vegetable gardens, in our air we breath etc. Please keep our land clean ! Thank you.
@@fransjebik8554 those white stripes are called contrails. It's just icy condensation from the engines so there's nothing dirty about it. It happens to ALL aircraft if the conditions are right.
@@ryansofly Contrails are gone in some seconds. They are not spreading wide out and stay for hours in the sky. That is the diffrrence betwern chemtrails from dirty fuel and sprayers. Contrails are clean and gone in some seconds.
Under KMT rule, everyone of their Air Force pilots had to be either born in China or their parents had to be born in China. The KMT Chinese didnt trust any of Taiwanese to fly any aircraft at all. Same applied to the mechanics and maintenance crew for China Airlines. All the incidents happened during their rules and immediate few years afterwards when their crew remained KMT Chinese as it were. EVA on the other hand has always stayed away from ex-military and also didn't exclude Taiwanese crew and maintenance workforce. I believe that Singapore Airlines also have a large number of their pilots that are ex-Singaporean Airforce officers. Out of Australia, only China Airlines service the Taiwan-Australia routes these days.
When you say "Taiwanese", do you mean the 台湾土著? That's a very fascinating insight into the hiring practices of CI which adds another layer of complexity. With regards to Singapore Airlines, I too was an ex air force officer when I joined them as a pilot trainee.
My family ironically flew CI very regularly in the early 80s, blissfully unaware of the safety record. Thinking back, if I knew what I did now I would not have. We shuttled regularly between Singapore and HK and CI offered some very attractive fares then.
Thank you for the video. I appreciate your work and value your integrity. Have an amazing day.
Cheers! Appreciate your kind words!
Ryan, exceptional research again in this fascinating presentation. I wonder too that improvements in aircraft design, avionics and as you’ve pointed out crew training are giving all airlines better safety performance. Yes, I would fly with this airline. From a safety point of view I see little difference between them and other major airlines. Yes, once we might have said Qantas because of their safety history but these days I’d think twice.
You truly have reached the top of my list of aviation RUclipsr’s with exceptional production skills, quality filming, passion for food and that great sense of humour that shines through in your videos. As always looking forward to the next presentation 🤗
@@james7149 thanks mate. Much appreciated, kind words. I use the term "pilot error" very loosely because there is so much more behind that which I won't have the time to cover for this 20min video. The chain of events for each accident is pretty astounding and happened VERY quickly. In that Nagoya incident, 100secs is all it took from the first signs of trouble to impact. So yeah, fascinating facts uncovered but damn I wished I had time to cram it all in. 😂
@ Ryan, thanks for replying, the point you make re: 100 seconds is remarkable…your skills shine through in what you cover in a short time frame with these videos. I and I’m sure many of your subscribers really appreciate seeing so much information provided in around 20 minutes!
As always your blog... wonderful show.. brilliant.x
Thanks for watching , Pauline!
Another fantastic video man. Didn’t know that the Hamburger meal had a Japanese variation. On a side note, your pronunciation of the airport names is/are impeccable. It’s actually soothing to listen to! I would absolutely cluelessly butcher the pronunciation if I ever tried haha.
Thanks man... I cannot take the credit. All I'm good at is imitation... So I listen to what Google tells me, and I regurgitate everything out, for the Japanese bit at least. As for Mandarin, well it's my 3rd spoken language. 😏
Good video Ryan. It was informative- I knew China Airlines had some historical problems but not to this extent. It is a brilliant airline now so make sure this is emphasised please.
Definitely, and that's how I attempted to end the video - on a high. I do have ANOTHER CAL video for this series so rest assured it's all positive. But we cannot appreciate the good unless we've seen how bad it was, right? Cheers...
Ryan... once again very informative. Not sure I was happy for you with your flight or depressed from the tragedies. Keep 'em coming!
Ha thanks... Suppose we can't grasp the history until we total it up and look at it as a whole.
It certainly is a grim overview of CI, but as you pointed out they have upped their game, and I would gladly fly their AKL - BNE sector if need be. Cheers Ryan. Happy travels M8 x
Grim is a very apt description. Yes that trans Tasman flight is a great opportunity to try out that airline.
CI has come a long way and improved a lot from its not so glorious past.
I have flown with them multiple times and have always enjoyed their catering and service.
I hope they will continue to maintain their safety records. 💪🏼
@@uncleken3599 don't think the powers that be will ever allow CI to return that where they were. They've worked so bloody hard to get to where they are today. Isn't it funny that my family flew them very frequently from 1981 to 1990, blissfully unaware of their shocking record? We shuttled between Singapore and HK every 3 to 6 months.
@ probably its best for your family not be aware at the time of CI’s safety records 😂
Wow, such an amazing turnaround! It's pretty crazy that that one took 22 years to cause that!
Even crazier when you think the engineers covered up the affected area so no one after that could see what was happening. 😑
Great but sobering video Ryan but it looks like China Airlines have learn their lesson.
Their safety record has improved tremendously in the last decade and a half, tapering down to zero accidents. So yes, I'd like to think only good things ahead.
Love the Gordon Ramsay 80’s disco short
Hahahaha yes I can't stop staring at it. It's so trippy! 😂
What? No hubby? While the cats away. Interesting video Ryan thanks mate
@@peterlisyak5396 hahaha... Yeah he won't appear in this series at all.
The 3 Golden Rules of Flying:
1. Pick a great airline.
2. Fly over land as much as possible.
3. Break up your trip.
Wise words!
Great history. Yup, I remember the crashes during the 80s and 90s. Not sure if given geopolitics these days I would transit at Taiwan, but it's less a blight on your passport than China.
China is not dumb to risk the political fall out should they invade Taiwan. Yes, there's lots of chest beating chest puffing from the mainland about reunification. But look at what happened in HK, you'd think Taiwan would go that way? Hardly. Unlike HK, Taiwan isn't a territory... It's an actual country. So yeah, nothing will happen anytime soon to change this status quo.
China Airlines is an excellent carrier but still a rung below EVA.
Agree 💯! Especially when CI's planes started to fall out of the sky back in those days, I'm sure EVA was in a very enviable position as a dependable alternative.
So much to see, so much to 'eat'. So many decent folk here I'm keen to 'meet'!
BOOM!
Yikes... Boom indeed...
Just to make everyone a bit less worried about China Airlines.......
They've actually started to ask Evergreen Group to do their maintenance recently.
So the rest will be left to human error on their side.
Interesting and Evergreen group is actually the owner of their competitor Eva Air in Simplified Chinese spelling 长荣航空.
Interesting, could CI not do it themselves?
@@ryansofly
Theoretically they could, but Evergreen Group can do things better and quicker.
@@EpicThe112
I wouldn't consider China Airlines as EVA Air's "competitor" in a traditional sense.
China Airlines is state owned while EVA Air is a private company. Both airlines will also be asked by the government on state missions from time to time and tends to work together whenever one side has trouble on the ground. So it's more of a healthy competitor rather than serious rivals.
Like it another airline to share the same statistic would is their partner Korean Air 대한항공. In fact they had an accident 2 years ago in CEB 宿霧
Indeed, KE and CI share a very similar and grim history. All those crashes and lives lost.
I'll be here same bat channel
@@TopazNRocky mate, great to have you in the chat earlier on! Cheers! 🥂
CI used to be a laughing stock but it is now almost on par or even better than Singapore Airlines. I would only fly SQ from SIN to TPE 20 years ago but I prefer to fly Taiwanese carriers to Taipei nowadays.
I don't believe they are better than SIA
Well yes and no, wrt to CI being better than SQ. In terms of consistency, yes SQ is tops. But SQ's cookie cutter factory churning out of their FAs does leave out the warmth factor, which CI does very well because their warm hospitality is natural.
Almost on par or even better than SQ is an over statement. Even if there is, it's Starlux. Not even EVA, let alone CI, no way. Lol.
I bump into you at LHR and said hello. You didn't even acknowledge me, thankfully your partner did. We were in the lift together 😂😂😂
@@RobinMcguigan omg 😯... No way! When was that??? In January or July? I sincerely apologize...
Quite misleading it makes viewers think its still happening now. Granted you touched on it slightly that its better now. Many airlines has bad histories however its now one of the safest airlines in the world.
That title is sadly still very current. In fact, CAL is only beaten by American Airlines by the lives lost, but bear in mind AA is many times larger than CAL. And yes, I agree CAL is top notch these days. There is another video about CAL for this series, and rest assured it's a positive one.
It was until the airline reformed itself from top to bottom, they fired the pilots who could not pass the simulator test, and fired the execs that allowed the shitty pilots in. They haven't had a crash since the 2000s.
Funny enough, my family flew CI very regularly in the 80s. Suppose ignorance is bliss.
@@ryansofly I mean I flew China airlines a lot in the 90s when I was a kid, guess I was lucky.
Hi airline, please use clean fuel. I see the stripes from China aeroplanes for hours in the clean sky above the Altai mountains. Of course with rain and snow it comes down on earth , also in our vegetable gardens, in our air we breath etc. Please keep our land clean ! Thank you.
@@fransjebik8554 those white stripes are called contrails. It's just icy condensation from the engines so there's nothing dirty about it. It happens to ALL aircraft if the conditions are right.
@ryansofly I know that contrails are gone in some seconds. Those trails stay for hoyrs and spread wide out.
@fransjebik8554 yes, contrails do that too. They're just clouds. Nothing harmful.
@@ryansofly Contrails are gone in some seconds. They are not spreading wide out and stay for hours in the sky. That is the diffrrence betwern chemtrails from dirty fuel and sprayers. Contrails are clean and gone in some seconds.
Under KMT rule, everyone of their Air Force pilots had to be either born in China or their parents had to be born in China.
The KMT Chinese didnt trust any of Taiwanese to fly any aircraft at all.
Same applied to the mechanics and maintenance crew for China Airlines.
All the incidents happened during their rules and immediate few years afterwards when their crew remained KMT Chinese as it were.
EVA on the other hand has always stayed away from ex-military and also didn't exclude Taiwanese crew and maintenance workforce.
I believe that Singapore Airlines also have a large number of their pilots that are ex-Singaporean Airforce officers.
Out of Australia, only China Airlines service the Taiwan-Australia routes these days.
When you say "Taiwanese", do you mean the 台湾土著? That's a very fascinating insight into the hiring practices of CI which adds another layer of complexity.
With regards to Singapore Airlines, I too was an ex air force officer when I joined them as a pilot trainee.
沒聽過只有所謂「外省人」才能駕駛民航機的規則，當時只有退役空軍飛行員才能駕駛台灣的民航機這點倒是沒錯，我猜測是因為當時所謂「本省人」基本不願意當職業軍人，自然民航機機師大部分都是外省人，然而那個時期的空軍也有一些本省人飛官，甚至編列在執行秘密任務的黑貓中隊，既然軍方的秘密任務都能有本省人參與，那麼我覺得你前半段所講的言論可信度不高。備註：本省人與外省人是歷史詞彙，前者是指二戰前主要來自閩粵的漢人移民，後者是二戰後來自中國各省的移民族群，這裡只是方便講解才使用
That's just racist...
Excellent video Ryan, but I don’t think I will by flying China Airlines anytime soon.
My family ironically flew CI very regularly in the early 80s, blissfully unaware of the safety record. Thinking back, if I knew what I did now I would not have. We shuttled regularly between Singapore and HK and CI offered some very attractive fares then.
It should be rename "Taiwan or Mandarin" Airlines long time ago ?555
Taiwan Airlines? Never going to happen.... Mandarin Airlines? Well, that's the name of their subsidiary.
Nice propaganda for the CCP.
Lol what??
It's well know that china airline safety is shit.
Bro definitely doesn't know anything about aviation