Just discovered your channel and subscribed. Excellent. I flew with China Southern to Amsterdam ans back a few months ago from Sydney and found them excellent. Stopped overnight in Guangzhou as you did. The arrival time in Guangzhou and my flight time the next day were ideal for an overnight stop. I stayed at the Pullman and it was excellent. I would definitely use CS again for a trip to Europe because their prices are competitive without compromising safety, efficiency, service or comfort. I think they have a very promising future in the Australian market. Thanks again, Ryan, and look forward to seeing more of your content!
I'd definitely fly them again in a heartbeat. Although now they've piqued my interest in Chinese airlines and I'd like to try some others in the market from OZ.
Never a bad video from you ryan, i have defiantly been looking forward to see how china southern would go on this longer sector after your first video on them, and they look like they did not disappoint. And let me tell you, getting a hot towel in ecconomy, now that is something that would blow qantas' mind!!!
I do have photographic evidence of QF giving out hot towels in premium economy as recent as 2018. These days you don't even get it in business class. So there's no hope for everyone else behind the curtain.
Travelled to NZ and back from the UK with China Southern. Honestly can't fault them. The leg room was great, service was great, food was great, inflight entertainment was great. Only thing that I wasn't the biggest fan of was the layover in Guangzhou. It wasn't long enough to be able to go out and visit China and explore, but long enough to be very bored in the airport. I did end up getting a pass for the Premium Lounge, food was decent in there, very nice showers, but that only killed two hours. I'd love to see the airport developed more, and I would have no issues with flying with them again. Missed my connection in London on the return trip and CS very happily rebooked the next flight and put me up in a hotel, the only nightmare I had the whole trip was with British Airways trying to track down my bag after I missed the flight :D
@@liamcooke269 Google "aerolopa China Southern 787-9". You'll see the window seat on the last row on the right hand side where the cabin tapers to a 2 seater. I was in that seat for part 1 of the video. Amazing. View the video through the link below... ruclips.net/video/AxQUofeI-Dk/видео.html
Another fantastic video man! I had to replay 14:12 because I thought my ears were playing tricks on me 😭💀 Those meals actually look quite tasty too. I’ve seen a few tik toks now of Aussies opting for this route to LHR as it’s allegedly more price competitive. At least it’s putting up some good competition against QF, EK and SQ. That pineapple tart, is it the same as the ones that you can purchase in those jars? My dad used to get them for us around CNY and if left to my own devices, I’d eat the entire jar of pineapple cookies without any shame LOL Might have to give this airline a try sometime! Thanks for sharing! Best, Nilesh
Yes those meals are awesome. The pineapple tarts in those jars for CNY, which I'm assuming are the ones closer to SE Asia has cinnamon and cloves infused into the jam, so it is slightly different from the ones found in China and Taiwan. Still they're all delicious nonetheless. Those CNY tarts are a fixture of my childhood home. Yum...
I have a feeling COVID hit them hard. Large parts of T2 still looked very unfinished, especially evident around the main concourse of departure airside. Think we all forget that China only opened their borders in 2023 after having them firmly shut for so many years.
Nice video Ryan! Those warm buns and warm towel mid-air even in economy class surely brought back sweet memories of the airline for me. And those nicely plated meals looks delicious even though I just had my late lunch here in SG 😀
As fellow Singaporeans, we can ALWAYS eat no matter what time of the day. Hahaha... Especially desperately deprived ones like me. When I get let out of Adelaide, I basically suck everything up like a vacuum cleaner.
I traveled throughout China, Hong Kong and Singapore a few years ago. One leg was on China Southern Airlines and I was pleasantly surprised. A very tasty meal of beef with black bean sauce and great flight attendants, I had no problem with only speaking English. Been to Europe via Singapore and Dubai but will consider this itinerary of yours Ryan
A lot of major international airlines do not speak English as their first language. JAL and ANA comes to mind. And my recent jaunt with Vietnam Airlines as well... Despite that they're all a joy to fly with. I think non English makes the experience more enjoyable anyway.
haha I can relate to the security checks in China. I take out my tiny microphone (and power bank of course) every time and they still wanna re-scan haha
I figured out the secret of why China Southern can serve meals so quickly, much faster than other mainstream airlines. It's because they stack the hot meal trays on top of the serving cart and quickly place them on a pre-prepared tray when you choose your meal. The drinks are served in the previous round. This is unlike other airlines, which slowly take the entire tray out of the hot cart, add the bread one by one, and then serve the drinks at the same time. Especially for the passengers seated at the back, this method makes a big difference. Waiting can feel very long when you can smell the food but have to wait a long time to be served. China Southern's approach makes it feel like you get your meal quickly no matter where you're sitting.
Yes indeed. I saw the mains stacked on the meal cart. Which I thought most airlines would do. I think Vietnam Airlines does the same as well if I remember correctly. But I agree, the speed in which the meals were given out was very fast.
About a month back I had a domestic flight departing CAN… also with China Southern… delayed 2 hours… day before my flight 4 hours, as you said very common, at least for Guangzhou traffic. Shanghai I have had much better luck. Enjoyed my experience with China Southern and very surprised I got a specialty dietary meal on a domestic China flight of 1.5 hours… something I don’t get in Aus! Looking forward to China Southern (hopefully) restarting ADL-CAN in the summer 🤞
Ryan - what an interesting routing to reach Europe. Yes the airlines of China are capitalising on their time saving advantages by selling tickets at low fares from Europe to Asia (besides of course Australia-Europe). I mean one well-known UK vlogger recently found the cheapest fare for London-Bangkok was with Air China changing in Beijing ! I mean a couple of years ago that routing would have been ridiculous in terms of extended flight time and excess flight mileage. Looking forward to the rest of the videos from this trip.
I was actually surprised at how short this west bound flight is! I really like this itinerary because our jet lag was very light when we got to UK. We were over it by day 2. Compared to our last flight to Europe which was a 31hr journey with no overnight stops, it took us almost a week to recover from it, and by that time, it was almost towards the end of our trip.
@@ryansofly That's good to hear. Personally I prefer daytime long-haul flights. CX operates one daily daytime HKG-LHR although of course flight time is several hours longer.
@@paulineparsons9399 yes, yes and yes. They do it all. I don't consume alcohol on flights so sadly I can't comment on how good or bad they were with the selection.
Hi Sir, first of all i would like to say thank you for sharring your Journey with China Southern Airlines i really like your Vlog but i just have question may i know what kind of GoPro you are using which Model ?
Actually, MOST of the footage was filmed using my mobile phone. I use a Xiaomi 13T. Only a small handful were filmed using GoPro Hero 10... The airport walking shots, the footage of me talking in the cabin during the flight delay... That was all GoPro. Otherwise everything else was my phone.
hey Ryan, thanks for this video 😀 For me, it confirms my choice to avoid Chinese carriers. They are not bad, but I prefer alternate carriers with a solid F or J class product. Plus when I travel long haul, which every international flight from Oz is, I am not in a hurry so speed to destination is not important to me 😁😁😁 For me the journey is an essential part of my holiday .... cheers !!
Haha yes I agree flying Chinese airlines isn't for everyone. They're best described as an acquired taste. Although I'm eager to test out their JCL products at some point.
i travelled through T2 in 2018 and half the ceiling wasn’t competed yet so you could see a bunch of wires and pipes and outbound immigration took an hour. Luckily it has improved however it seems like half the International gates were reassigned as Domestic gates so bus gates are now very common
你的国语太标准了，可以和中央电视台的播音员有一拼.广东话也猴赛雷。Canton Route is a good alternative to Kangaroo route. IMO CZ is the best of the big three. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see your return flight.
Flying melb to nanjing via guangzhou with China southern in a couple of months.. this augurs well for a not so terrible experience 🤞.. do wish they’d lean into Chinese cuisine a bit more for their inflight meals.
Thanks for the detailed and entertaining video! Quick question - was there complimentary WiFi on board aswell? If not, do you know how much this costs?
I agree, besides restaurants which were spaced so far apart from each other, there really isn't much to do airside. There's a lot of wasted space as well. It feels unfinished, and I think COVID had a part to play in it.
The security theater in Asian airports is always laughable. Everytime I transit through Shanghai they would take my power bank to check the capacity rating even though the 10000 mAh power bank is clearly much smaller than the 27000 mAh limit for flying. Singapore took my nail file because the rounded tip "is sharp". Manila took my nailclipper because the tip "is sharp". Angeles / Clark took another nail file because the rounded tip "is sharp" So I was sitting there thinking, if I am going to hijack the plane by holding a nail file to a passenger's throat, couldn't I also do it with a pen or the metal cutlery they hands out on board? So stupid
@@Peizxcv well it is what it is. I had my power board extension taken from my luggage in MNL, but I opted to check it in. So it was saved. As laughable as it is, I'd rather they'd be strict about it.
As Russia and Belarus banned Western, Japanese, Australian and South Korean airlines from flying to their airspaces against the backdrop of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, airlines from countries such as China have took advantage of it. Even Turkiye’s Turkish Airlines and Gulf Arab carriers are unexpected winners (again)
Yes, politics. Sigh... Great for the Chinese airlines I suppose. I noticed Korean and Japanese carriers are now flying to Europe over north pole.... Or they've always done that.
@@ryansofly Going to Russia and Belarus will add more transits through third countries, especially through friendly ones like Turkiye, Central Asia, mainland China, India, Vietnam and Middle Eastern ones. The rest of the world doesn’t meddle in other countries’ matters so why bother?
I think our expectations need to be managed with these Chinese airlines. They do speak English, but it is basic and seldom goes beyond asking for your meal choice. Its similar to asking Google, if your question goes outside of its parameters, then the response would be appropriate. Hahaha do I make sense?
Yikes, I've wrongly time stamped this as 2023 at the beginning. Please note this trip was taken in 2024. Thousand apologies!
All good Ryan I did wonder about this
I can just see you bowing with your hands together 🙏 hehe 🤗
@@ThorAU 😂😂😂😂
Just discovered your channel and subscribed. Excellent. I flew with China Southern to Amsterdam ans back a few months ago from Sydney and found them excellent. Stopped overnight in Guangzhou as you did. The arrival time in Guangzhou and my flight time the next day were ideal for an overnight stop. I stayed at the Pullman and it was excellent. I would definitely use CS again for a trip to Europe because their prices are competitive without compromising safety, efficiency, service or comfort. I think they have a very promising future in the Australian market. Thanks again, Ryan, and look forward to seeing more of your content!
I'd definitely fly them again in a heartbeat. Although now they've piqued my interest in Chinese airlines and I'd like to try some others in the market from OZ.
Been looking forward to this very much...
@@paulineparsons9399 join us now in the live chatroom!
Beaut Vid Ry (from Bo of Air NZ). Many thanks Mr. You are fair and equitable and beautifully annunciated. We enjoyed this a lot. BB
Many thanks! Hope to see you in my future videos! Cheers! 🥂
Never a bad video from you ryan, i have defiantly been looking forward to see how china southern would go on this longer sector after your first video on them, and they look like they did not disappoint. And let me tell you, getting a hot towel in ecconomy, now that is something that would blow qantas' mind!!!
I do have photographic evidence of QF giving out hot towels in premium economy as recent as 2018. These days you don't even get it in business class. So there's no hope for everyone else behind the curtain.
Travelled to NZ and back from the UK with China Southern. Honestly can't fault them. The leg room was great, service was great, food was great, inflight entertainment was great.
Only thing that I wasn't the biggest fan of was the layover in Guangzhou. It wasn't long enough to be able to go out and visit China and explore, but long enough to be very bored in the airport. I did end up getting a pass for the Premium Lounge, food was decent in there, very nice showers, but that only killed two hours. I'd love to see the airport developed more, and I would have no issues with flying with them again. Missed my connection in London on the return trip and CS very happily rebooked the next flight and put me up in a hotel, the only nightmare I had the whole trip was with British Airways trying to track down my bag after I missed the flight :D
Yikes... BA is notorious for being hard to track down! Hope it was all resolved .
Mate am 6ft 6 and traveling from London to China and panicking about legroom will I be okay?????
@@liamcooke269 Google "aerolopa China Southern 787-9". You'll see the window seat on the last row on the right hand side where the cabin tapers to a 2 seater. I was in that seat for part 1 of the video. Amazing. View the video through the link below...
ruclips.net/video/AxQUofeI-Dk/видео.html
Another fantastic video man!
I had to replay 14:12 because I thought my ears were playing tricks on me 😭💀
Those meals actually look quite tasty too. I’ve seen a few tik toks now of Aussies opting for this route to LHR as it’s allegedly more price competitive. At least it’s putting up some good competition against QF, EK and SQ.
That pineapple tart, is it the same as the ones that you can purchase in those jars? My dad used to get them for us around CNY and if left to my own devices, I’d eat the entire jar of pineapple cookies without any shame LOL
Might have to give this airline a try sometime!
Thanks for sharing!
Best,
Nilesh
Yes those meals are awesome. The pineapple tarts in those jars for CNY, which I'm assuming are the ones closer to SE Asia has cinnamon and cloves infused into the jam, so it is slightly different from the ones found in China and Taiwan. Still they're all delicious nonetheless. Those CNY tarts are a fixture of my childhood home. Yum...
Another great video Ryan. Thanks so much. I really enjoyed this. God bless
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching... Cheers! 🥂
I love the amenity kit CZ is offering even in economy!
I know right? It's almost business class level of one of those 3rd tier airlines. Most unexpected.
@@ryansofly That's well said
Very nice video. Loved it. I can now consider flying with China Southern to Sydney 👍
You should! They're really not that bad as everyone makes them out to be!
Thank you for the video!
You're welcome.
Been watching a few of your vlogs
Thank you so much for all the tips!
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I traveled through T2 on the day it opened, everything was very clean right down to the brand new uniforms!
I have a feeling COVID hit them hard. Large parts of T2 still looked very unfinished, especially evident around the main concourse of departure airside. Think we all forget that China only opened their borders in 2023 after having them firmly shut for so many years.
Nice video Ryan! Those warm buns and warm towel mid-air even in economy class surely brought back sweet memories of the airline for me. And those nicely plated meals looks delicious even though I just had my late lunch here in SG 😀
As fellow Singaporeans, we can ALWAYS eat no matter what time of the day. Hahaha... Especially desperately deprived ones like me. When I get let out of Adelaide, I basically suck everything up like a vacuum cleaner.
I traveled throughout China, Hong Kong and Singapore a few years ago. One leg was on China Southern Airlines and I was pleasantly surprised. A very tasty meal of beef with black bean sauce and great flight attendants, I had no problem with only speaking English. Been to Europe via Singapore and Dubai but will consider this itinerary of yours Ryan
A lot of major international airlines do not speak English as their first language. JAL and ANA comes to mind. And my recent jaunt with Vietnam Airlines as well... Despite that they're all a joy to fly with. I think non English makes the experience more enjoyable anyway.
Great review Ryan
Thanks mate! Hope to see you in my next one! Cheers... 🥂
The food looked great
I was a very satisfied passenger... 😏
I love China Southern's boarding musics
I didn't realise there was one! I need to go back and listen to the raw footage.
What'up, thanks. perfect traveler-🤝
@@eprohoda you're very welcome! Thanks for watching! 🍻
haha I can relate to the security checks in China. I take out my tiny microphone (and power bank of course) every time and they still wanna re-scan haha
Omg... I was really trying so hard to hold it together. The lines were a little slow because a lot of us kept getting extra searched.
I figured out the secret of why China Southern can serve meals so quickly, much faster than other mainstream airlines. It's because they stack the hot meal trays on top of the serving cart and quickly place them on a pre-prepared tray when you choose your meal. The drinks are served in the previous round. This is unlike other airlines, which slowly take the entire tray out of the hot cart, add the bread one by one, and then serve the drinks at the same time. Especially for the passengers seated at the back, this method makes a big difference. Waiting can feel very long when you can smell the food but have to wait a long time to be served. China Southern's approach makes it feel like you get your meal quickly no matter where you're sitting.
Yes indeed. I saw the mains stacked on the meal cart. Which I thought most airlines would do. I think Vietnam Airlines does the same as well if I remember correctly. But I agree, the speed in which the meals were given out was very fast.
Actually most Chinese airlines do that.
And this is why i love China Southern
Continued excellence!
Thank you for popping in, mate! 🍻
About a month back I had a domestic flight departing CAN… also with China Southern… delayed 2 hours… day before my flight 4 hours, as you said very common, at least for Guangzhou traffic. Shanghai I have had much better luck. Enjoyed my experience with China Southern and very surprised I got a specialty dietary meal on a domestic China flight of 1.5 hours… something I don’t get in Aus! Looking forward to China Southern (hopefully) restarting ADL-CAN in the summer 🤞
Yes the delays are horrendous. But it is what it is. It all feels very arbitrary and they don't ever have to provide a reason why, it's just accepted.
Another great video Ryan, meals are often better on Asian airlines that on US or European counterparts.
You can say that again! That's why I love flying Asian airlines... 😏
Ryan - what an interesting routing to reach Europe. Yes the airlines of China are capitalising on their time saving advantages by selling tickets at low fares from Europe to Asia (besides of course Australia-Europe). I mean one well-known UK vlogger recently found the cheapest fare for London-Bangkok was with Air China changing in Beijing ! I mean a couple of years ago that routing would have been ridiculous in terms of extended flight time and excess flight mileage. Looking forward to the rest of the videos from this trip.
I was actually surprised at how short this west bound flight is! I really like this itinerary because our jet lag was very light when we got to UK. We were over it by day 2. Compared to our last flight to Europe which was a 31hr journey with no overnight stops, it took us almost a week to recover from it, and by that time, it was almost towards the end of our trip.
@@ryansofly That's good to hear. Personally I prefer daytime long-haul flights. CX operates one daily daytime HKG-LHR although of course flight time is several hours longer.
Welcome back to MY home terf 🇬🇧
And I always enjoy my time there. Cheers! 🥂
Do they serve alcohol on board...either wine or spirits? ..if I may ask .,?....,love your work....please continue 👍
@@paulineparsons9399 yes, yes and yes. They do it all. I don't consume alcohol on flights so sadly I can't comment on how good or bad they were with the selection.
China Southern looks a perfectly good airline to be aboard. Ticks my boxes - Thanks Ryan
You bet! They're really not that bad!
Hi Sir, first of all i would like to say thank you for sharring your Journey with China Southern Airlines i really like your Vlog but i just have question may i know what kind of GoPro you are using which Model ?
Actually, MOST of the footage was filmed using my mobile phone. I use a Xiaomi 13T. Only a small handful were filmed using GoPro Hero 10... The airport walking shots, the footage of me talking in the cabin during the flight delay... That was all GoPro. Otherwise everything else was my phone.
@@ryansofly Thank you
hey Ryan, thanks for this video 😀 For me, it confirms my choice to avoid Chinese carriers. They are not bad, but I prefer alternate carriers with a solid F or J class product. Plus when I travel long haul, which every international flight from Oz is, I am not in a hurry so speed to destination is not important to me 😁😁😁 For me the journey is an essential part of my holiday .... cheers !!
Haha yes I agree flying Chinese airlines isn't for everyone. They're best described as an acquired taste. Although I'm eager to test out their JCL products at some point.
i travelled through T2 in 2018 and half the ceiling wasn’t competed yet so you could see a bunch of wires and pipes and outbound immigration took an hour. Luckily it has improved however it seems like half the International gates were reassigned as Domestic gates so bus gates are now very common
My gut feeling is COVID threw a spanner in the works. A lot of T2 still feels and looks very unfinished.
你的国语太标准了，可以和中央电视台的播音员有一拼.广东话也猴赛雷。Canton Route is a good alternative to Kangaroo route. IMO CZ is the best of the big three. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see your return flight.
Hahaha... "猴赛雷" 😂😂 太🐮B了吧！我是新加坡出世的，所以当地人会讲挺多语言的。菜航的确是中国其中最好的航空公司。
Flying melb to nanjing via guangzhou with China southern in a couple of months.. this augurs well for a not so terrible experience 🤞.. do wish they’d lean into Chinese cuisine a bit more for their inflight meals.
Hope you'll enjoy your flight with them like I did!
Can I ask…..why the 19hr layover in Guangzhou….was it by choice or transit time……did you stay somewhere while waiting…👍
@@wombatwood4681 this was the itinerary given by the airline. I paid for an airport hotel during the transit.
i remeber being in china southern airline
Hope it was a great flight!
Thanks for the detailed and entertaining video! Quick question - was there complimentary WiFi on board aswell? If not, do you know how much this costs?
I will touch on this WiFi on the final video for this series. It did not work for me because I just could not get the sign in page to load.
@@ryansofly Looking forward to it!
I was in disarray in transit security with the different aviation security regulations at CAN. I found the airside so boring.
I agree, besides restaurants which were spaced so far apart from each other, there really isn't much to do airside. There's a lot of wasted space as well. It feels unfinished, and I think COVID had a part to play in it.
The security theater in Asian airports is always laughable. Everytime I transit through Shanghai they would take my power bank to check the capacity rating even though the 10000 mAh power bank is clearly much smaller than the 27000 mAh limit for flying. Singapore took my nail file because the rounded tip "is sharp". Manila took my nailclipper because the tip "is sharp". Angeles / Clark took another nail file because the rounded tip "is sharp"
So I was sitting there thinking, if I am going to hijack the plane by holding a nail file to a passenger's throat, couldn't I also do it with a pen or the metal cutlery they hands out on board? So stupid
@@Peizxcv well it is what it is. I had my power board extension taken from my luggage in MNL, but I opted to check it in. So it was saved. As laughable as it is, I'd rather they'd be strict about it.
Sorry Ryan, how much did you pay for the fare to UK? Maybe China Southern and Vietnam Air might be good choices through the busy season?
@@josephphillips9243 this MEL CAN LHR return in economy class was AUD1200.
@@ryansofly Thanks Ryan. Wow!!!!!
As Russia and Belarus banned Western, Japanese, Australian and South Korean airlines from flying to their airspaces against the backdrop of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, airlines from countries such as China have took advantage of it.
Even Turkiye’s Turkish Airlines and Gulf Arab carriers are unexpected winners (again)
Yes, politics. Sigh... Great for the Chinese airlines I suppose. I noticed Korean and Japanese carriers are now flying to Europe over north pole.... Or they've always done that.
@@ryansofly Tit for tat for condemning Russia.
Something the Western political circles only understands.
@@ryansofly Going to Russia and Belarus will add more transits through third countries, especially through friendly ones like Turkiye, Central Asia, mainland China, India, Vietnam and Middle Eastern ones.
The rest of the world doesn’t meddle in other countries’ matters so why bother?
as a guangzhou local china southern premium member i don't want to aboard any long haul flight with csair😅
Suppose it's the same for me, why I cannot stand QANTAS. As a local we usually dislike our local airline? Haha...
我家的菜航，唯一不行的就是空姐的英文😂。菜航是中国最安全可靠，高效的航空公司了。
哈哈。。。菜航也许会成为我的最爱！ 😂
On this flight, would the attendants have sufficient English to understand food order?
I think our expectations need to be managed with these Chinese airlines. They do speak English, but it is basic and seldom goes beyond asking for your meal choice. Its similar to asking Google, if your question goes outside of its parameters, then the response would be appropriate. Hahaha do I make sense?
June 2023?
@@tjshan oh nooooooooooo......! Shit it's meant to be 2024! Thanks for pointing it out! I can't change it now but I'll definitely pin a comment.
you can speak contonese？
Yes I do! 😄