Watch This Before You Buy A Porsche Taycan
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2023
- Some important things to consider if you're looking to buy one of these right now.
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So..
1) don't buy a taycan
2) wait to buy a taycan
3) UK infrstructure sucks for range
4) don't worry about the range
5) enjoy the car
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ahah thats why this channel is full of S
Interesting video as i have just bought a used 1 year old GTS selling my 20 month old 911. Collected it in Edinburgh and drove it to South Wales 510 miles and charged in three Ionity stations and got from 5% to 85% in about 30 min so no complaints there. What a drive home so comfortable and so easy to drive.
Exactly - as per the video my experience of Ionity has been fantastic - there just simply isn't enough of them! Why did you decide to brave the change from the flat 6 if I may ask?
@@TABonTV My closest Ionity charger is 70 miles away. The reason i changed my 911 was the fact it was inconvenient as i only did 3200 miles in 20 months. I do have another vehicle a Ford Ranger Wildtrack but ended up going everywhere in that as we could not take anybody else in the 911.
Understood, sounds like your use case and logic won out! Glad you're enjoying it.
9 months of ownership with 10,000 miles on my 4S CT and I agree with everything you say. That said, it’s without doubt still putting a massive smile on my face every time I get in it and drive it (and having come from an F90 M5 interestingly I don’t miss that car at all). I have to add mine is a company lease and the BIK in kind is still so low that even if it were a piece of s@@t I would still love it 👍🤣 (but it’s not, it’s a work of art). I went to Amsterdam and back this week and the continent have it absolutely on the button. Loads of fast chargers, loads of slow chargers and if you currently use the Porsche card given to you FOC when you buy a car you only pay £0.30/kWh regardless of what the actual cost is if you use IONITY chargers (which there are loads). My electricity cost return from the SE UK which was a journey of just under 1000 miles was a touch over £100 - try and do that in a 550bhp ICE car!
Thanks for the comments, interesting reading! I hear lots of great things about charging on the continent - glad the trip went well! Hopefully not too much waiting at red lights... 🚦😆
But would be half that in a 600HP Tesla 😂
I think the extra 120 mile range of the new Taycan will make a huge difference to road trips, greatly lessening the need for fast charging. The new car will do a real-world 330 miles or so. Most people won’t be doing more than 330 miles a day. A trip to Inverness from London could be done without my fast charging, just charge 100% at one overnight stop. Interesting what you say about eating tyres, if you ran a 4S on 19” tyres they are only about £115 each for a 225/55R19 front tyre, whereas the 21” tyres are £280+, as you say.
Nice one, straight to the point no BS 😊 nice review and plenty to think about 👍
Thanks - hope it helped!
Thanks for the advice. I think I’ll hang on to my Panamera for a little while longer.
Really honest, really great video. Only thing i would add is to remind the crazies without a home charger not to even bother looking at one.
Thanks!
Hey why not to consider?
Honest and awesome as always!
Appreciated!
I’ve had mine for almost a month now and love it. Worth mentioning that if you buy approved used from Porsche they’ll add two years warranty to the ‘official’ end date, so it’s a much less scary ownership proposition. My car turns 3 years old in July but has approved warranty until July 2025.
Good to hear you're enjoying yours and that extra warranty is a good helping of peace of mind!
I've had my 4S for three years, 27K miles in the US. I've gone through two sets of front tires and one set of rear tires. I purposely stayed with 19 inch wheels to avoid pot hole damage (and am using all season tires). I charge at home and have solar panels. Our Electrify America charging stations can be disappointing. My car doesn't have Plug & Charge so I use the Porsche App which can be exciting. One heater servo valve had to be replaced on warranty.
Sounds like your ownership experience has been pretty good! And yes, heater issues seem to be a standard fit option on these cars. 😆
Thats the slickest ride ever. Almost lookin like a cobra but. . . In a very cool. I'd be riding with beaches if i had that type of car
I am confused between Mercedes S class hybrid for interior and electric tycan for its looks. Any recommendations?
Great video and very informative. You are not alone in massive depreciation, the EQS is just as bad.
EV values going through a big correction right now
Good content, keep it up :)
Thanks!
Do you have performance plus? What's range do you get give or take motorway driving in the winter?
GTS upwards all have the plus battery as standard. I'd say about 200 miles on the range
I'm not sure how my 4S Plus could manage 200 miles on the motorway. I charged it to 85%, and it only indicates 170 miles. At this rate, I doubt it would even reach 100 miles on the motorway. I'll test it today, and if its performance is poor, I'll return the car under distance buying rights.@@TABonTV
@@pjroberts2010 I would drive it normally for a bit and see if it improves. Might have been used enthusiastically...
Nope, it's driven normally. I can only go as fast as the car in front of me, etc. I'll give it a 120-mile motorway test today and see how it goes. @@TABonTV
I’m looking for a Taycan now used I found lots of 2020-2021 base and 4S model for $65k-75k US
Good luck!
This review just put off buying one... thanks
Saved you some money!
Endorse what you say about our infrastructure compared with Europe
Just come back from a 2700m trip around France Switzerland and Italy and it was a joy - even the villages have decent 150kw chargers
The motorways have loads of 250kw +
The comparison is stark
Thanks, yeah, we really do need to up our game in terms of public charging.
Hi.
Great video! 👍
Yesss, you probably have to know what you're buying when you choose a Taycan! 💯
Buying a Porsche is always a personal decision of what you aspect of the car 🚙.
Cause the price is so high, you have to take it as adventure of feelings and emotions.
Your points are very good pointing out the things you have to think about before buying this car.... And this car is a really good one!
And also true is that the charging infrastructure in the UK is on a low level.
The rest of Europe is fine and I'm happy to live in Germany where we have a lot of fast chargers around and the infrastructure is rising from month to month.... 😉 ✌️👌🙋🏼♂️
I wish the UK would make the same effort! Hope you're still enjoying the car!
Great content as always as well as some pretty good advice. After playing around with the configurator for weeks, factoring in the overall price increases to the Taycan trim levels and finally, available used inventory. I decided to purchase a CPO Turbo S which was actually a higher trim and overall better spec than the GTS that I had planned to custom order. I think the depreciation ended up being the deciding factor for me. Hopefully EVs in general will hold their value better in the future as they should have better longevity/reliability than ICE cars…in theory.
Yeah, I think you made a wise choice there on the purchase! Hopefully they'll hold out over the longer term...
@@TABonTV Do you think it’s more of an EV thing or something with the Taycan in terms of depreciation?
Across the board with EVs, Taycans are actually holding up a bit better than others from what I can see
Interesting video I had one on order for two years with my specifications chosen. Over the period of time waiting Porsche to offer a build date. Head office changed the options available removing colours, and certain options. After many calls and discussions with my Porsche Centre I cancelled my order decided to look for used one which I found in Wolverhampton agree better to find a used one than wait for the new one. Product itself is amazing no trouble with charging as do have the luxury of been able to charge from home.
Yeah, especially with where the market is right now, used really is my recommendation. So much can change in 2 years!
How much was the deposit?
Good man~
0:59 - perfect donut location!
Right location wrong car 😆
Cant you make a video of the difference between the sport sound and without? Im curious if it sounds something inside, i you could hear the car ”talking”.
Have a look through my previous vids, there is one on there for the sound. Give us a sub too as more content to come around this
@@TABonTV im already a subscriber🙂
@@SdKfz173 nice, thanks for the support!
Make a hybrid and plugun version
Light hybrid 911 on the way...
Lead time is going to be a mess…with the battery seal recall.
Lead times are improving by the month.
A Porsche really needs a boxer 6. And having tested both the Taycan TURBO s (yes ridiculous name) the Merc EQE and Tesla I must say I don't ses a very big difference in daily use. Therefore range was the deciding factor for me.
The turbo in the Taycan is a state of mind 😆
@@TABonTV Yes, or maybe wishfull thinking 😉
1:21 - Exactly.
It's still a grocery-getter than a true road trip car.
Whenever Porsche wakes up and gets their act together to put in the CATL batteries with at least 360+ miles per charge, then I'll put down my deposit.
In the meantime, the +$4600 for the 2024 model with asinine leatherette cup holders as the only change is a complete joke.
Don't get me started on those cup holders 😆
can they depreciate faster please so I can buy one
If you can hold out a couple of weeks they'll be free 🥹
What do you think will happen if I buy one for 90k euro today. Will I be able to sell it in 4 years. That’s the main thing bothering me at the moment.
You can always sell a car, big question is the price you'll get for it...
@@TABonTV if I get 50% of what I pid for in 4 years it would be a bargain :)
Late post but I am looking at a used Taycan. Not sure if paying extra £5k to £10k from Porsche dealer worth it. Some cars aren't selling and have lost £1000's. I was tempted earlier in the month by a Crayon Taycan in Porsche Preston but at £64k for a 21 plate car it was well over priced and will have dropped £2000 in 2 weeks plus What car valued it at £57k.from a dealer. Yes you get 2 year warranty but Porsche warranty most probably like Audi warranty, worthless. The battery construction worrying as well as VW group use gel batteries instead of individual batteries like Tesla model S does. This means if you get a cell back fail you have to replace the whole thing instead of just cutting out the single damaged battery as done to several model S cars. I would want a thorough battery report on any used EV especially if spending more than £20k. 20" wheels would save the cost of tyres as 21" rear tyres £300 a corner, ouch.
It's totally a buyer's market, so I would haggle as much as possible, you're likely to get further discounts even at Porsche. They want this used stock off their books...
Thanks I might try haggling. Not sure to go for 4S or base car and not sure hich battery to have as the Taycan charges so fast. @@TABonTV
My business partner has a Taycan turbo S and it great, except you can't charge it at decent speed anywhere. The advertised 300Kw charging is available at a handfull of places across the UK (or at Porsche dealers after an argument) otherwise you are left trying/waiting to charge the huge battery at a slow (7, 22, 50 Kw) charger, after you get to the front of the queue. It's useless if you want to drive, say 400 miles, as once you have used the initial charge from home, it's a minumum two hours for any decent level of charge. Hopeless at 10pm and you have 200 miles charge to take on (about four hours at most public chargers... Hopeless. Just as well she kept her old diesel Audi ... Joke! Our Model S on the other had can use any of 100+ Tesla charger stations with 1200 stalls. Never far away, never a queue, always 150Kw. Simples.
We need a lot more charging infra - quickly. It seems to have completely stalled... Funny how the ULEZ expansion is storming ahead quickly... It's not because that will generate millions is it? 🤦♂️
I need one!
Plenty of choice out there!
We have noticed the tech field is taking longer and there are always having an issue of back log since 2020 we used multiply leaps in tech development 10 times faster what happened is it capitalism or a lame excuse for bureaucratic policies that is making it difficult environment for tech to sprout what do you think?
Let's play grown ups! Why would anyone buy a brand new car Knowing that 20% of the price was VAT? Also another 5% is newness. Once it arrives at the dealer is registered, you name is on the V5 it is worth 5% less already! Now if you've added those two together you 25% or 1/4 of the value gone already before you've sat in it. Then what you probably don't know is that the car was not worth the price you paid? Because the manufacturer give the dealer around 17.5% of the sale price to cover showrooms sales promotion & Warranty! But that's not the worst of it. The most profitable part of every new & Second User (Mercedes has their own exclusive) preloved car dealerships. Is the Finance department! You don't buy car you PCP or lease it. Deposit & 35 or 47 month payment and you own nothing! You have to borrow money to buy it or use it as your deposit for your next 3-4 year of high interest rate( more than your mortgage) car loan. But you do get a brand new more expensive as much as you scrap together monthly repayment car. So you've traded in your 3 year Old Merc & got a shiney new one £100K's worth. You drive passed Merc select & see one just like it at less than half the price! You go in see a salesman who tells you are lucky! Great car great price, top of the range everything & every conscevible extra. The same guy has a new one every three years through his company does 10-11K miles/year then changes it like for like even the same colour! You work out how many monthly payment on your new car if would to own this one outright! Add two more payment to cover the interest & you'd still get a 1/3rd of it's new value if you look after it!
What model is this? 4s?
Turbo S
They depreciate so quickly, YOU owe the dealer another fiver when you drive it out of the showroom.
Don't say that... I gave him a tenner!
the tayan has been scored number 1 as EV that hold there value ??
A bit like winning the talent show on the Titanic. Still big depreciation.
Porsches prices are dropping like flies lately it ridiculous
It pains me to say it but it's a good thing. They were priced into insanity...
Do a new Taycan video please
What would you like to see covered?
I prefer the e-tron GT. Nicer looking and prefer proper buttons for AC rather than the stupid touchscreen version in the Taycan. Good advice on buying used, the stock levels are over saturated for such a new/flagship car.
Don't tell anyone but I prefer the GT looks too 🤫😆
@@TABonTV Haha 😀
i personally think that the taycan looks much more cooler, but the etron is quite badass too
These cars are depreciating like crazy right now.
Good if you want a used one
I just can't believe the depreciation - you could throw a Steinway off a roof and lose money slower.
Yes, please don't do that though. It'll B flat.
@@TABonTV A minor problem. 🙂
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Not me watching this while knowing goddam well I can't afford it ahah
I can't really either 😆
5 minutes in and not a single word about the car itself.
Plenty of Taycan content on the channel 👍🏻
I've had my Cross Tourismo Turbo S since December (out of a McLaren 720s Spider), it's awesome, best car I have ever driven, it does everything! I have a home charger and have not yet used the public charging infrastructure, I don't think I would have gone for an EV if I needed to charge away from home. I totally agree with the main point of your video, DO NOT BUY ONE, PCP or straight lease has to be the way to go! I have mine on a 3 year PCP with a guaranteed future value, so deprecation is not a concern for me. I did the same with the McLaren and just handed the car back at the end of the agreement. Also, I am far from convinced that EV is the future, any major advancement with alternatives will see EV values plummet further and for this reason, if no other, DO NOT BUY ONE!
They are great cars! However, even PCP deals on these aren't looking like great value right now... Appreciate the comment!
i going PCP Graham can i ask what your GFV was ??
£105k@@kengormley4530
Insanely overpriced for what it is! That's why it's sales are already falling like a rock out of the sky.
Still selling pretty well AFAIK...
*Elon built an incredible infrastructure*
And then he fired the entire team responsible for this achievement on a whim.
Had one for 5 months, such a bore compared to a real Porsche. I couldn't wait to dump it and stop the bleeding, these things are depreciating like a rock. The car is buggy and charging network is laughable. Too much weight and complexity and not much fun. No thanks and never again, that's why these are collecting dust now on lots.
I'll take it you're not a fan then...
I was considering buying one in few months.. what other cons you can share about taycan 4s?
@@TABonTVcommon sense unless you are biased as a fan
Its A Shame ~ Nice Shape & Designed Car They Just Should've Put V8/V6 TwinTurbo In Them
Lol. Awesome car for around town, need as a part of a stable or cars. NOT FOR SOMEONE WHO ONLY HAS ONE CAR.
Porsche Taycan is the best EV VW has. No wonder VW has problems selling their EVs.
Yeah, they're not particularly inspiring in terms of design either... Even if you compare to Kia / Hyundai.
this video was sponsored by tesla
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Range is rubbish. Changing the batteries in 7-9 years isn't going to be fun and then again in 7-9 years, etc. We are still Gen 1 in EV's and until we get further down the road, I'm not interested. I'm really not interested in EV's as they have no sound which is quite important to me. I'm sure it drives well, as all Porsche's do that nicely. Glad you like yours, but not for me.
This is the thing - they're not for everyone...
If your really not interested, why have you watched the video and bothered commenting?
@@davidsharrock5704 Because I have a curious mind? Do you only watch things that reenforces your thinking? Are you afraid to hear a different position than your own?
Porsche can't release the Cayman EV fast enough. Nobody wants a family sedan anymore.
Right. There's a bit of a 2 seater fun car vacuum in this space right now.
EVS are not the future!!!
No one says it like you “Taycaan”
Someone's gotta...