It's hard when you break up with your girlfriend because she doesn't understand this. Passion and lust lasts a moment, love forever. There are so many people who learned about love from movies and illussions of perfection.
Em183 No, we already were in the friendship stage for a long time but she couldn't handle it. She was missing something and it always bothered her. Sometimes I was everything that she wants, sometimes not. She had depression often because of her missed lifegoals. It's also that her past made her some wounds that she didn't heal properly. Or maybe i'm wrong, maybe we weren't meant to be. But I believe love is a choice. And I did have chosen her. In the end you accept the loss and continue. I just hope and choose to believe that she'll be happy and have a good life.
Tomislav Mislavto Aww :( I have the opposite problem I am just interested in platonic relationships, not Eros haha but it's hard to find someone who feels the same way. Also I'm childfree XD
wait. if love is a choice, why did you not explain that to her, and explain your thoughts to her? Love is a constant choice.... is she broken about it or how did she react?
Exactly. The english language has plenty of good words of its own - most of us are just lazy. The point about the elevation of passion, in particular the fire of sexual passion as the preeminent meaning of the word 'love' is important though.
Taken to it's ultimate, one would love the unlovable and feel this way towards everyone. Be like Jesus (for example). There are some people for whom I could never feel compassion. I see Agape as an ideal to which I aspire but will never reach.
The philosophy of the entire School of Life series: 1.) Pobody's Nerfect: you are good enough, and so are other people. Don't judge each other. Accept. 2.) Everything is going to be okay in the end, don't stress 3.) Strive to create a kinder world for everyone... 4.) Most of human suffering is from unreaslitic societal expectations that create rigid and arbitrary rules causing people to feel anxiety about being not good enough.
True love is when you can't stand seeing that person be upset because of you. When that person is in a bad mood temporarily and you choose to tolerate rather than retaliate. When you can see in his or her eyes a hidden pain and you can sense something is off without even speaking. When you start to enjoy their hobbies which you disliked yourself once. When you not just share a bed, a house or bodies but when you begin to share thoughts, feelings, motives, and even the silence is blissful with them. When you not just talk verbally but you're souls talk to each other and feel each other. In short when you're completed by a person even though that person may or may not be yours. When you love a person enough to let go. Love isn't just a word. Its a whole different universe.
I feel this quite easily if I want too I’m very understanding and can read anyone like a book. What’s more important in terms for a relationship is “want” you have to want that person to keep them to choose them . That where it all becomes a problem as it’s no longer unconditional and what’s it is you like will certainly change.
@@thegabo1700 So there's a fundamental flaw in how we conduct relationships nowadays and it's linked with the overlooked limitation of our very language. No wonder relationship problems and anxiety from relationships are such a rampant phenomenon currently.
Another thing is you can cycle through love over and over and over with the same person like I still feel Eros love for my husband we've been together eight years it's not as obsessive and intense as when we first got together. One way we've kept this is we include date nights where we get like dressed up for each other. We also work out a lot so it keeps all of our hormones going and keeps our sex drive from diminishing. But by far the philia love is the most important. He's my best friend. And if I didn't have much time left I can tell you I'd be spending more time doing things that mattered like having important conversations and seeing places together then just doing passionate sexy stuff.
If you're noticing that your definition of love is stemming from romantic movies, then remember that a life with a partner lasts much longer than a 2 hour movie.
This is slightly incomplete since the Greeks actually had 7 types of love. You're missing Ludus, Storge, Philautia and Pragma - all types of love, agreeable not all apply to couples.
Growing up watching this RUclips channel has given me so much insight and allowed me to have an open mind about so many things in the world. It’s made me be able to question engrained ideas that society and my parents may have taught as normal to question if it really is so normal... thanks for this :)
as someone who's aromantic and is a pretty commited partner (we're going into three years and I would sacrafice so much for my girlfriend), i think this video articulates why i can feel such strong affection and love despite not really having a romantic attraction society seems to have in movies all the time. it's always so hard for me to describe what love of another person is like to me is and this video is so wonderfully crafted thanks guys
I've though about this a lot. People attach themselves to the idea that love is what is depicted in books and movies, in the gallant and majestic world of theater. But there is so much more to love than just the passion, I just couldn't find the words for it. The way your video shows sympathy, generosity and virtue as part of love really opened my mind. This was beautiful, thank you.
I agree with this so much. In my life, whenever I say "I love this" or something, somebody always corrects me saying that I'm not attracted to it. At my school, people like to say they "love" their crush, I'm not saying it's impossible to fall in love if you're young, but they often just think their crush is cute for a week then move on. There are so many kinds of love, I wish we didn't think it just meant attraction. If that was true, I wouldn't love my family but I'd a sunset. Sorry for the paragraph (although i doubt anyone will read this) but this really annoys me.
El Lizardo love holds multiple meanings. Just because people can’t understand them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. It can mean anything from fascination, adoration, dedication, or simply trust as well as attraction.
I don't know. I love dogs, and I certainly am attracted to dogs, just not in an Eros sort of way. I'd say it's more akin to Philia and Storge forms of love. I also love videos games and am very attracted to them. Just because you're attracted to something it doesn't mean you want to date and/or have sex with it.
You explained what I couldn't verbalise in my marriage. We didn't start with a passion as he didn't have all I always was attracted to. For 9 years together I thought I didn't truly love him cause we grew our love from friendship. I developed physical attraction later in our marriage from companion. Thanks a lot
When I married my wife my best friend reminded us of this. Eros, romantic or sexual love Philia, the love of friends Storge, the love a parent feels for their children Agape, the love of the devine
Yup for some reason like chocolate chip cookies well who knows like chocolate reminds me of the episode of SpongeBob where the dude goes crazy and says chocolate!!!
It's amazing how all of these years I thought that there should be more to "love" and I was right. However, in this culture we are led to believe that when Eros is gone, so is love itself, ie, the relationship. We turn sex into a chore because we're supposed to have it every day or else there's problems with our union. Then we simply burn ourselves out. It is unfortunate that Philia and Agape are not romanticized or even widely mentioned. Though I vaguely recall a passage from one of my ex wife's novels I once spied that went: "Philia stood horrified, mouth Agape as she came upon her husband in Eros' arms".
It's new to me that people really think love is about sex.. It seems very ignorant to me. Liking the person themselves is far more important than liking their bodies or how they use them. Do people really think the issues they have with a person are going to magically disappear or not matter just because they have good sex?
@@descai10 I don’t know if this is all true for everyone. My girlfriend and I have sex everyday at least twice once in the morning and once before bed and many times in between as well. We’ve been doing this for 3 years and we’re both still hot for each other. At the same time our deeper love has grown in the background only increasing and enhancing our sexual relationship.
@@OrangeDiamond33 That's a good relationship. My point is that you can have a great relationship without amazing sex, but you can't have a good relationship if the only thing you like about them is the sex.
@@descai10 I would agree you can’t have a great relationship based totally on sex alone but I would also argue without great sex you are in a sub par relationship. Sex is very important to retain intimacy and a strong bond.
Awwwwww, that's so sweet! 'it reminds us that love isn't just about admiration for virtues, it's also about sympathy and generosity towards what is weak and imperfect in us.'
I just want to say that its not only in ancient Greece we used these words we still use έρωτας(eros) and αγάπη (agape) and sometimes πάθος(pathos) to distinguish between different kinds of love.We still dont have one word for love.Thanks for the videos brilliant as always..
but then when you want to say something like "I love you," you can only say with specification, such as "I love you in the agape sense", or "I love you in the philia sense"? So the person you talk to can understand that you don't love them in the eros sense?
In the Arabic language there's 21 (names/words/status/steps) that define the different types/feelings of love between two lovers from day one til death do them part. :) Also there is around 23 descriptions for the lovers themselves in every stage of their relationship from madly in love until they want kill each other.
I emotionally drowned back in 2018 and the school of life was my own self help or guardian angel even to getting out of my depression. With great themes and tittle that can only make your eyes watered and think about why we are really here. All by taking it one day at a time. That seems like a life time ago and i thank you guys.
I'm glad my parents taught me these three words when I was younger! They actually taught me "storge," familial love, instead of "eros," but eventually they told me about it when I was older.
Due to strong feelings towards someone you'll think "I'm in love" (but it's philia or agape), sleep together... then wait around for a few months and wonder why you don't "really feel love" (eros). So you break up, lose all the forms of love and feel like a flawed person. I'd like these distinctions to be more well known.
it is important to understand that in modern greek there is no confusion with these terms 1. eros (or erotas in modern greek) = 'falling in love' 2. agapi = 'love' 3. filia/philia = 'friendship' EXAMPLES: 1. eroteftika (as a verb in modern greek) = I fell in love 2. the Love of God is described as 'agapi', s'agapo = I love you 3. 'filos' = friend, philosofos (philosopher in english) = friend of wisdom, philadelphia (also Philadelphia as a US city) = the friendship of one sibling to another, philippos (also as a first name Philippos, or Philip in english) = friend of horses etc
they left out PIETA== compassionate empathy for your ''fellow humans'' who suffer n experience pain, thus cruel insecure bully rule the world and shame us for our PAIN!! this is HUGE problem n causes war strife n self-hatred!!! they overlooked CHARITY...''care-ity'' is knowing some one is in need, and stepping up and giving EXACTLY what that person needs. [not advice or sex]. give a loved-one what THEY need not what YOU THINK they need, how to know what they need? dont be afraid ask!
modern Greek ? omg , why did I think the Greek language had basically gone extinct , like Latin , where nobody is actually speaking the language in day-to-day life ?! blonde moment
I recently watch few of your videos and man I have to say I love the way present your videos, your voice and the way you use the words is amazing and makes me want to hear and understand the things you say even more. Keep it up.
There are really four types of love as I see it. Sexual Desire: Which is a baser form of love designed to compel us to reproduce. We impulsively seek a mating partner and begin the ritual of creating life. Familial Love: Which is also a baser form of love. Parents are instinctively compelled to care and nurture their children unconditionally. There is a neurological bond that encourages parents to prioritize the well being of their offspring for the sake of human populating. Platonic Love: Loving something by assessing the value of it. If something is inherently beneficial, we have strong feelings of appreciation and compassion towards it. This is a more evolved, rational form of love, loving objectively. Compassionate Love: A instinctive form of love, but also a selfless form. Against our best interests, we care for people and things out of empathy. We wish for people we don't know to be free of pain and suffering because we have experienced it ourselves, and attempt to heal them as we hope to be healed. But at the trunk, there is just love. Finding benefit in other things, and cultivating the nurturing components of life.
T. j. Good morning Thank you. You're amazing... Hope it will be .... but not obviously 😟 I'm kinda stuck in this period of my life and days here been all the same recently
Especially it is hilarious to hear the expression "to make love", when it means "to get laid". Lovely cummings. To be serious, I'd say that it's like phases of relationships. Still, I guess it's wrong to call a thing "love" if it is just an urge to copulate. Love is a constant feeling, like "I love music". Also, in the Bible there was a good description of love: "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails." ~ 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 Still, I suppose the true love is only god-like one, because others just hormonally driven ones. You can be attracted to someone, later just become "out of this" or something like that. Like a drug.
This it is...the 'eros' is like a drug. When it disappears the focus is on getting it. When one have the drug (sex) one is already busy to get the next shot....And after a while the 'love' between two people is only focussed on getting the drug...
On romantic love: "this beautiful in theory and hugely punitive in practice." That's why philosophy is so important: it helps us on concrete issues, in practice, in the Lifeworld.
Reminds me of a poem by Margaret Atwood, called "Variations On The Word Love": This is a word we use to plug holes with. It's the right size for those warm blanks in speech, for those red heart- shaped vacancies on the page that look nothing like real hearts. Add lace and you can sell it. We insert it also in the one empty space on the printed form that comes with no instructions. There are whole magazines with not much in them but the word love, you can rub it all over your body and you can cook with it too. How do we know it isn't what goes on at the cool debaucheries of slugs under damp pieces of cardboard? As for the weed- seedlings nosing their tough snouts up among the lettuces, they shout it. Love! Love! sing the soldiers, raising their glittering knives in salute. Then there's the two of us. This word is far too short for us, it has only four letters, too sparse to fill those deep bare vacuums between the stars that press on us with their deafness. It's not love we don't wish to fall into, but that fear. this word is not enough but it will have to do. It's a single vowel in this metallic silence, a mouth that says O again and again in wonder and pain, a breath, a finger grip on a cliffside. You can hold on or let go.
I like to stay in the over romanticized love. When that passion wanes, something needs to change. I've always been a hopeless romantic so it makes since for me. I think the problem in relationships is that people get complacent. They don't go out of their way to look good or show how much they care with acts affection like they did when they were first dating. If you do that and the feeling still wanes, then you'll have a deeply connected friend who may not passionately love you but unconditionally. I think a lot of people need that right now.
fLeXiN I believe its way more then teens but true. Although looks are very important when looking for someone. I won't pretend that I don't as well, but in the search for beauty people tend to get vain. Blinded by wealth they stop doing everything for the person and only strive for their money. Its unfixable at this point. Were all doomed.
Its not for all and not that common. It happens but dosen't have to happen to you or someone else and there are marriages and relationships without that and you have to understand that. PS: Mostly by teens in their strive for popularity and other bs that dosen't matter. EDIT: You have to be a writer. That is an talent not cleverness.
This is very helpful! My boyfriend and i are at the 1 year mark. Because I don't get that constant rush like i used to, I thought maybe i didn't love him anymore. I've studied it and discovered that I'm in a normal stage of my relationship, but I'm happy to see it has a name :)
Δημήτρης Παπαδόπουλος there are but we are terrible in publishing them...from medicine,science ,high tech radar systems (which supplied the US army) etc...many modern achievements but we do nothing to publish them for the world to see.
How beautiful to see such meaning mentioned on the Quran 30:21 And one of His signs is that He created mates for you from yourselves that you may find rest in them, and He put between you love and compassion. The words love and compassion translated from Arabic to show the meaning of empathy, care, mercy and genuine attention. How beautiful is that 💚
Could you please do a video about the difference between "love and relationship" , for example when two people love each other but they aren't seem to capable of forming a good relationship together. It is difficult to find someone you love for who they are, yet after you find it, it is more difficult to build a relationship together. Whereas it seems that we are good at maintaining relationships with our boss, friends even strangers who we love less than our true love. Thank you. @School of life
When a bird falls in love with a fish because fish is a fish, and the fish falls in love with that bird because the bird is a bird. But the bird flies in the sky while fish swims under the water. Does that mean that can never form a reasonable stable relationship?
I don't use the word love unless I mean it. I'll say I care about you or that I think you are an amazing person, and other phrases along those lines, but I won't say I love you unless I mean it. My boyfriend does that too. He tells me he loves me like once a week, whenever I do something that he thinks deserves the word love. I think it's cute! I want to mean what I say. I don't normally have noticeable happy or sad feelings for things, so when I say I love you it's like me trying to show you my feelings. Accept them if you get the chance
This video is better than I expected (its title is kind of misleading, and unpleasant, to say the least). There are, certainly, different kinds of love - but that doesn't make Love an "useless word". Quite the contrary: Love encompasses its different kinds, while also referring to what they have in common. Philia can mean "spiritual love" (as in "philosophy" - love of wisdom), or "soul love", "soul connection" (definitely warmer than "friendship", something touched upon in the video). It applies also to "love in the family" (parents and their children, etc.) Eros may sometimes be sheer lust. More importantly, at its best, it is a combination of Philia ("soul love") with physical desire. So, Eros and Philia are not mutually exclusive. However, in a good couple relationship, Eros tends to weaken in time, whereas Philia gets deeper and stronger. The video creates the impression that Agape is the same as compassion. Agape is best expressed in the saying "love your neighbor as you love thyself"; this includes, yet it's more than, compassion, or charity, or a benevolent attitude towards someone, despite their weaknesses.
@The Watcher Currently as a greek freelancer I'm paying close to 80% of my net income to taxes, for a crony government to repay said debt. Care to elaborate on your personal experience with greeks who don't pay debts?
I think we understand and separate love, lust and infatuation though don't we? Man I hope no one thinks they can't love someone if they don't want to have sex with them or don't want them around constantly that sounds awful 😓
Hello there! Oh but they have an extra video on that issue. Just search on youtube for: " The School of Life / The Platonic Love & The Troubadours". Have a nice day:-)
I really didn't actually, it's quite rational to suggest that as they were discussing the different types of love the ancient Greeks had philosophized about, why not talk about all of them? They missed one type of it and therefore I pointed it out, however the video was decent I've got nothing against it.
"Platonic" is not Ancient Greek. It can be traced back to the 17th century, where it was used in reference to a discussion of love in Plato's Symposium.
In my opinion, we should all use the word love more frequently without qualifying what specific type of love is being felt by the person expressing it. It should be contextually implicit what type of love is in the associative meaning to be subjectively interpreted.
Though he means well, Alain does have a narrative voice in text and audio that can come across as quite preachy and paternalistic at times, as though he insists on not only preparing our meal but also feeding it to us, carefully cut morsel by carefully cut morsel.
My people, my brothers and sisters, my human family, "Agape" is what our world, our home is missing. Tears comes to my eyes when I had just realized this is where we fall short in humanity as a whole. Many of you persons reading this, my name is Ismail. I don't know you, you don't know me but I love you ALL!
Lust is often mistaken for love. Though, at the end of the day, most love is based on lust, however disguised it might be. Name one form of love for which there isn't a Freudian interpretation?
Sometimes the best words are one that need context and a deeper understanding from both the speaker and receiver. And just because there's an obsession with a single word or phrase doesn't disqualify it from having real meaning. I can't believe this channel still convinces people with "weak tea" logic and a great animation.
Throughout all the years I've been on this accursed world I've never been able to achieve the love I've always wanted. I guess fate is never on my side.
It's hard when you break up with your girlfriend because she doesn't understand this. Passion and lust lasts a moment, love forever. There are so many people who learned about love from movies and illussions of perfection.
Tomislav Mislavto So you wanted to go to the "friendship" stage and she didn't? Sorry for sounding nosy
Em183 No, we already were in the friendship stage for a long time but she couldn't handle it. She was missing something and it always bothered her. Sometimes I was everything that she wants, sometimes not. She had depression often because of her missed lifegoals. It's also that her past made her some wounds that she didn't heal properly. Or maybe i'm wrong, maybe we weren't meant to be. But I believe love is a choice. And I did have chosen her.
In the end you accept the loss and continue. I just hope and choose to believe that she'll be happy and have a good life.
Tomislav Mislavto Aww :( I have the opposite problem I am just interested in platonic relationships, not Eros haha but it's hard to find someone who feels the same way. Also I'm childfree XD
John Ryan Only 12? Slacker
wait. if love is a choice, why did you not explain that to her, and explain your thoughts to her? Love is a constant choice.... is she broken about it or how did she react?
So... Basicly...
Eros can be seeing as something like Passion
Philia as Brotherhood or Partnership
And Agape as compassion
Exactly. The english language has plenty of good words of its own - most of us are just lazy. The point about the elevation of passion, in particular the fire of sexual passion as the preeminent meaning of the word 'love' is important though.
Agape seems the highest form.
Taken to it's ultimate, one would love the unlovable and feel this way towards everyone. Be like Jesus (for example). There are some people for whom I could never feel compassion. I see Agape as an ideal to which I aspire but will never reach.
Little.Ass-Kicker well said
"Basically" ... yes. ;)
The philosophy of the entire School of Life series:
1.) Pobody's Nerfect: you are good enough, and so are other people. Don't judge each other. Accept.
2.) Everything is going to be okay in the end, don't stress
3.) Strive to create a kinder world for everyone...
4.) Most of human suffering is from unreaslitic societal expectations that create rigid and arbitrary rules causing people to feel anxiety about being not good enough.
True love is when you can't stand seeing that person be upset because of you. When that person is in a bad mood temporarily and you choose to tolerate rather than retaliate. When you can see in his or her eyes a hidden pain and you can sense something is off without even speaking. When you start to enjoy their hobbies which you disliked yourself once. When you not just share a bed, a house or bodies but when you begin to share thoughts, feelings, motives, and even the silence is blissful with them. When you not just talk verbally but you're souls talk to each other and feel each other. In short when you're completed by a person even though that person may or may not be yours. When you love a person enough to let go. Love isn't just a word. Its a whole different universe.
I feel this quite easily if I want too I’m very understanding and can read anyone like a book. What’s more important in terms for a relationship is “want” you have to want that person to keep them to choose them . That where it all becomes a problem as it’s no longer unconditional and what’s it is you like will certainly change.
Instead of playing fuck marry kill, play eros, phillia and agape instead
Liz Xu but people like first stage only and don't want to evolve in second or third phase
Liz Xu lmao😂😂😂
Liz Xu Thank you so much for commenting what we all thought
That would be the purest version of this game
I am Greek and yesterday I was just thinking about the limited words for love that the English language has!
william41017 Between Greek and English? A hole lot to include in a RUclips comment!
Greek yogurt. That is all. Know your place.
Ναταλία Γκ. *whole
They say that the more words a culture has for a thing or idea the more important it is in that culture.
Samuel Neison a good majority of those can be used to make a description of love, but are not interchangable with love themselves
And sometimes you can feel a nostalgic kind of love for someone you didn't even met.
thegossipswan009 στοργη
Konti na lang, bitter na name mo. Haha
"I miss you" by bjork is about this feeling :)
LagiNaLangAko23 storgi well, love but a more to do with parents and children I think. My Greek isn't that great despite my name.
thegossipswan009 i feel that way about my future children.. If someday I decide to become a mother
Boy: I eros you.
Girl: Can we just have philia between us?
PHILIA-ZONED!
XD
Will 😂
I agape you...
Bruh
Damn so freindzone been there forever
Most ppl break up when the philia season starts
Florian Dijkhuizen More like when Eros fades away and suddenly they realize they didn’t build any Philia at all.
@@thegabo1700 So there's a fundamental flaw in how we conduct relationships nowadays and it's linked with the overlooked limitation of our very language. No wonder relationship problems and anxiety from relationships are such a rampant phenomenon currently.
What if relationship starts with friendship
Another thing is you can cycle through love over and over and over with the same person like I still feel Eros love for my husband we've been together eight years it's not as obsessive and intense as when we first got together. One way we've kept this is we include date nights where we get like dressed up for each other. We also work out a lot so it keeps all of our hormones going and keeps our sex drive from diminishing. But by far the philia love is the most important. He's my best friend. And if I didn't have much time left I can tell you I'd be spending more time doing things that mattered like having important conversations and seeing places together then just doing passionate sexy stuff.
If you're noticing that your definition of love is stemming from romantic movies, then remember that a life with a partner lasts much longer than a 2 hour movie.
This channel makes me feel like i have problems
Henchman B we all have problems. This channel makes those problems more bearable
Yeah, that’s not good, pumpkin. You don’t have problems. I’m not liking how the cake is being cut either. Somehow it’s unsettling!
You do have problems, and so does everybody else. Chances are you are frequenting this channel as part of your grappling with those problems.
Lmmfao
Makes you realize
"This is beautiful in theory and hugely punitive in practice". Wonderfully described
This is slightly incomplete since the Greeks actually had 7 types of love. You're missing Ludus, Storge, Philautia and Pragma - all types of love, agreeable not all apply to couples.
I was kinda left hanging expecting the other types as well. There's also Mania.
@@ekintopuz7594 mania?!
@@marcrow9114 Obsessive love. Not the same as we use in modern English.
Would anyone care to explain what the others mean please?
@@simonides3167 "Ludus" means game or play in Latin. That could be it... ?
Growing up watching this RUclips channel has given me so much insight and allowed me to have an open mind about so many things in the world. It’s made me be able to question engrained ideas that society and my parents may have taught as normal to question if it really is so normal... thanks for this :)
"We've created a cult of love" been saying this for years.
@AA K chill
Romanticism
90% of the radio and TV
Propaganda
as someone who's aromantic and is a pretty commited partner (we're going into three years and I would sacrafice so much for my girlfriend), i think this video articulates why i can feel such strong affection and love despite not really having a romantic attraction society seems to have in movies all the time. it's always so hard for me to describe what love of another person is like to me is and this video is so wonderfully crafted thanks guys
I've though about this a lot. People attach themselves to the idea that love is what is depicted in books and movies, in the gallant and majestic world of theater. But there is so much more to love than just the passion, I just couldn't find the words for it. The way your video shows sympathy, generosity and virtue as part of love really opened my mind.
This was beautiful, thank you.
I agree with this so much. In my life, whenever I say "I love this" or something, somebody always corrects me saying that I'm not attracted to it. At my school, people like to say they "love" their crush, I'm not saying it's impossible to fall in love if you're young, but they often just think their crush is cute for a week then move on. There are so many kinds of love, I wish we didn't think it just meant attraction. If that was true, I wouldn't love my family but I'd a sunset. Sorry for the paragraph (although i doubt anyone will read this) but this really annoys me.
El Lizardo i read it all and agree
So true
El Lizardo yeah that annoys me also
El Lizardo love holds multiple meanings. Just because people can’t understand them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. It can mean anything from fascination, adoration, dedication, or simply trust as well as attraction.
I don't know. I love dogs, and I certainly am attracted to dogs, just not in an Eros sort of way. I'd say it's more akin to Philia and Storge forms of love.
I also love videos games and am very attracted to them.
Just because you're attracted to something it doesn't mean you want to date and/or have sex with it.
You explained what I couldn't verbalise in my marriage. We didn't start with a passion as he didn't have all I always was attracted to. For 9 years together I thought I didn't truly love him cause we grew our love from friendship. I developed physical attraction later in our marriage from companion. Thanks a lot
When I married my wife my best friend reminded us of this.
Eros, romantic or sexual love
Philia, the love of friends
Storge, the love a parent feels for their children
Agape, the love of the devine
What a magnificent animation!
Thank you
Mia1998 sex SEX +☆
Halo Legend why did u say thank you are you the animator?
Skydog07 No, I just felt like it
Halo Legend will
The squishy sound effects are not pleasant with headphones.
The Chiefs Ikr
The Chiefs Lmao true
This warning legit made me take my headphones out. MVP right here. That noise would have been WEIRD
Not all heroes wear capes.
The Chiefs 👌😂😂
This animation makes me want some chocolate
Yup for some reason like chocolate chip cookies well who knows like chocolate reminds me of the episode of SpongeBob where the dude goes crazy and says chocolate!!!
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Or poop
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lmao
It's amazing how all of these years I thought that there should be more to "love" and I was right. However, in this culture we are led to believe that when Eros is gone, so is love itself, ie, the relationship. We turn sex into a chore because we're supposed to have it every day or else there's problems with our union. Then we simply burn ourselves out.
It is unfortunate that Philia and Agape are not romanticized or even widely mentioned.
Though I vaguely recall a passage from one of my ex wife's novels I once spied that went: "Philia stood horrified, mouth Agape as she came upon her husband in Eros' arms".
So true
It's new to me that people really think love is about sex.. It seems very ignorant to me. Liking the person themselves is far more important than liking their bodies or how they use them. Do people really think the issues they have with a person are going to magically disappear or not matter just because they have good sex?
@@descai10 I don’t know if this is all true for everyone. My girlfriend and I have sex everyday at least twice once in the morning and once before bed and many times in between as well. We’ve been doing this for 3 years and we’re both still hot for each other. At the same time our deeper love has grown in the background only increasing and enhancing our sexual relationship.
@@OrangeDiamond33 That's a good relationship. My point is that you can have a great relationship without amazing sex, but you can't have a good relationship if the only thing you like about them is the sex.
@@descai10 I would agree you can’t have a great relationship based totally on sex alone but I would also argue without great sex you are in a sub par relationship. Sex is very important to retain intimacy and a strong bond.
Imagine having a "love" tattoo then watching this vid
Looll
Lool
you make 3 lil' ones around
it's okay they're all under the category of love, just bcs love is written there doesn't mean it translates into eros or sex
This is art in action! Thanks so much!
Awwwwww, that's so sweet! 'it reminds us that love isn't just about admiration for virtues, it's also about sympathy and generosity towards what is weak and imperfect in us.'
Am I the only one who thought everything looked like chocolate
I thought so.
No
Im colorblind and i think that's the cause of it.
Nuestro amor sabe a chocolate
I'm pretty sure its supposed to be blood. Since the whole animation is based on the heart lol
Those moist sound effects made me forget what I was watching because it was gross lmao
Yeah the illustrations would have done the job just fine without slurpy moisture sounds.
Me too lmfao
Nah it was okay for me
No grown man should use the word moist to describe anything except cake!
Moist, like grass fields in the rain
And yet these three stages of love can be perfectly combined in infinite ways.
👏👏👏
surely the 'Eros' love is what we simply call the 'honeymoon period' love in english?
Ash Mckinlay nah, its the kind of "I wanna screw you real bad"
Ash Mckinlay Eros = lust
sounds erotic :)
Simon H lol..... Wut?
No it’s called prostitution
I just want to say that its not only in ancient Greece we used these words we still use έρωτας(eros) and αγάπη (agape) and sometimes πάθος(pathos) to distinguish between different kinds of love.We still dont have one word for love.Thanks for the videos brilliant as always..
but then when you want to say something like "I love you," you can only say with specification, such as "I love you in the agape sense", or "I love you in the philia sense"? So the person you talk to can understand that you don't love them in the eros sense?
In the Arabic language there's 21 (names/words/status/steps) that define the different types/feelings of love between two lovers from day one til death do them part. :)
Also there is around 23 descriptions for the lovers themselves in every stage of their relationship from madly in love until they want kill each other.
How interesting: please send us all the words!!
Provide an Arabic source. This sounds highly romanticized and inaccurate. Fluent arabic speaker here. Still i give him the benefit of the doubt.
TheSabatuer I agree
Abdu Abed sounds pretty abstract
Can you send me these words, as well as their meanings and descriptions too
I emotionally drowned back in 2018 and the school of life was my own self help or guardian angel even to getting out of my depression. With great themes and tittle that can only make your eyes watered and think about why we are really here. All by taking it one day at a time. That seems like a life time ago and i thank you guys.
I seriously like the sound effects and noises of the video, this is like an ASMR for me
I'm glad my parents taught me these three words when I was younger! They actually taught me "storge," familial love, instead of "eros," but eventually they told me about it when I was older.
Due to strong feelings towards someone you'll think "I'm in love" (but it's philia or agape), sleep together... then wait around for a few months and wonder why you don't "really feel love" (eros). So you break up, lose all the forms of love and feel like a flawed person. I'd like these distinctions to be more well known.
Marvellous. Sublime how something so simple can slip under your nose yet cause such catasrophy in everyday life.
this has been, for sure, one of my favorite ones. Amazing way to split that malicious word
I philia this channel.
Wouldn't it be 'I phil this channel' ? Lol Makes me rethink Dr.Phil 😄
Feel 'ya
phil ya bro
it is important to understand that in modern greek there is no confusion with these terms
1. eros (or erotas in modern greek) = 'falling in love' 2. agapi = 'love' 3. filia/philia = 'friendship'
EXAMPLES: 1. eroteftika (as a verb in modern greek) = I fell in love 2. the Love of God is described as 'agapi', s'agapo = I love you 3. 'filos' = friend, philosofos (philosopher in english) = friend of wisdom, philadelphia (also Philadelphia as a US city) = the friendship of one sibling to another, philippos (also as a first name Philippos, or Philip in english) = friend of horses etc
I thought philia meant passion.
they left out PIETA== compassionate empathy for your ''fellow humans'' who suffer n experience pain, thus cruel insecure bully rule the world and shame us for our PAIN!! this is HUGE problem n causes war strife n self-hatred!!!
they overlooked CHARITY...''care-ity'' is knowing some one is in need, and stepping up and giving EXACTLY what that person needs. [not advice or sex]. give a loved-one what THEY need not what YOU THINK they need, how to know what they need? dont be afraid ask!
Love is a mix of sex uncertainty money and emotions
modern Greek ? omg , why did I think the Greek language had basically gone extinct , like Latin , where nobody is actually speaking the language in day-to-day life ?! blonde moment
@@TeKeyaKrystal Modern Greek is a much smaller language than "Modern Latin", though, if you'd consider the Romance languages as evolved Latin.
and storgi (love between family members) 😍
Στοργή is more like compassion.
ZoeA7x ναι μωρο μου
ZoeA7x more like the need to provide for and protect your loved ones.
and incest (love between family members). Just kidding.
Napat Chokwatthananon omg😂😂
Pragma,Agape,Philia
Pragma? what does this have to do with love lol it means "thing"
Katherine Lkay there's a term called pragmatic love, pragma for short. Sure, we don't use it, but it has greek origin.
Also Ludus and Philautia
Zombie David Bowie is my sensei
Could you please explain the definition of each of those 4 Greek words ?
Saumya Shah I think ludus is latin. I can't think of a greek origin.
I recently watch few of your videos and man I have to say I love the way present your videos, your voice and the way you use the words is amazing and makes me want to hear and understand the things you say even more. Keep it up.
hmhm, tbh I just enjoy the mystery of the word "love", it makes it quite strong even if the word could be confusing, neglecting or something...
Oh good! I no longer have to explain these words to future lovers. I'll just send a link to this video.
Perfect!
Sabina Cruz an even better approach would be to take someone who already knows this as your lover.
you're gonna be alone for a while
Wishing all of y'all lots of love peace and happiness no matter what y'all say ;)
Sabina Cruz same and more to you :)
no one meant bad I am sure, just messing around ;)
There are really four types of love as I see it.
Sexual Desire: Which is a baser form of love designed to compel us to reproduce. We impulsively seek a mating partner and begin the ritual of creating life.
Familial Love: Which is also a baser form of love. Parents are instinctively compelled to care and nurture their children unconditionally. There is a neurological bond that encourages parents to prioritize the well being of their offspring for the sake of human populating.
Platonic Love: Loving something by assessing the value of it. If something is inherently beneficial, we have strong feelings of appreciation and compassion towards it. This is a more evolved, rational form of love, loving objectively.
Compassionate Love: A instinctive form of love, but also a selfless form. Against our best interests, we care for people and things out of empathy. We wish for people we don't know to be free of pain and suffering because we have experienced it ourselves, and attempt to heal them as we hope to be healed.
But at the trunk, there is just love. Finding benefit in other things, and cultivating the nurturing components of life.
I was taught these three kinds of love when I was a child in Lutheran church in Germany
Forgot starge, bro. The love that a parent feels for their child.
Paul Spears storge στοργή which means affection
Also, mania right?
*storge
That’s the best definition of agape I’ve ever heard. Thank you
I want to love and be loved ...
Love ya Phillip.
I love you too Tj
Philip!
Good morning!!!
You're awesome and I love you.
Today is going to be amazing... No worries.
T. j. Good morning
Thank you. You're amazing...
Hope it will be .... but not obviously 😟
I'm kinda stuck in this period of my life and days here been all the same recently
Phil....
You got this.
Particularly liked this animation! Though the beginning led me to think that there would be 6 Greek words for love as opposed to 3
"Love is only a word, what matters is the connection the word implies" - Rama-Kandra, Matrix Revolutions
This was so simple and so helpful. Thank u. Unexpected growth over here =)
This is amazing!
Especially it is hilarious to hear the expression "to make love", when it means "to get laid". Lovely cummings.
To be serious, I'd say that it's like phases of relationships. Still, I guess it's wrong to call a thing "love" if it is just an urge to copulate. Love is a constant feeling, like "I love music". Also, in the Bible there was a good description of love:
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails." ~ 1 Corinthians 13:4-8
Still, I suppose the true love is only god-like one, because others just hormonally driven ones. You can be attracted to someone, later just become "out of this" or something like that. Like a drug.
This it is...the 'eros' is like a drug. When it disappears the focus is on getting it. When one have the drug (sex) one is already busy to get the next shot....And after a while the 'love' between two people is only focussed on getting the drug...
My country borders greece. Philia means slice of bread in my language lol
That hilarious.
Bread is love
Lol. Well actually they have pronounced it wrong so..it may not mean slice of bread afterall xD
Something that feeds body and soul
Well, bread can feed people and feeding is loving.
On romantic love: "this beautiful in theory and hugely punitive in practice."
That's why philosophy is so important: it helps us on concrete issues, in practice, in the Lifeworld.
Reminds me of a poem by Margaret Atwood, called "Variations On The Word Love":
This is a word we use to plug
holes with. It's the right size for those warm
blanks in speech, for those red heart-
shaped vacancies on the page that look nothing
like real hearts. Add lace
and you can sell
it. We insert it also in the one empty
space on the printed form
that comes with no instructions. There are whole
magazines with not much in them
but the word love, you can
rub it all over your body and you
can cook with it too. How do we know
it isn't what goes on at the cool
debaucheries of slugs under damp
pieces of cardboard? As for the weed-
seedlings nosing their tough snouts up
among the lettuces, they shout it.
Love! Love! sing the soldiers, raising
their glittering knives in salute.
Then there's the two
of us. This word
is far too short for us, it has only
four letters, too sparse
to fill those deep bare
vacuums between the stars
that press on us with their deafness.
It's not love we don't wish
to fall into, but that fear.
this word is not enough but it will
have to do. It's a single
vowel in this metallic
silence, a mouth that says
O again and again in wonder
and pain, a breath, a finger
grip on a cliffside. You can
hold on or let go.
Very interesting and a relieveto hear that there is actually love after LOVE
I like to stay in the over romanticized love. When that passion wanes, something needs to change. I've always been a hopeless romantic so it makes since for me. I think the problem in relationships is that people get complacent. They don't go out of their way to look good or show how much they care with acts affection like they did when they were first dating. If you do that and the feeling still wanes, then you'll have a deeply connected friend who may not passionately love you but unconditionally. I think a lot of people need that right now.
So much work put in but noone will ever read it...
fLeXiN Tis apart of life.
Teens value pepole by their wealth and looks not by the insides ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). Its much easier that way.
fLeXiN I believe its way more then teens but true. Although looks are very important when looking for someone. I won't pretend that I don't as well, but in the search for beauty people tend to get vain. Blinded by wealth they stop doing everything for the person and only strive for their money. Its unfixable at this point. Were all doomed.
Its not for all and not that common. It happens but dosen't have to happen to you or someone else and there are marriages and relationships without that and you have to understand that. PS: Mostly by teens in their strive for popularity and other bs that dosen't matter. EDIT: You have to be a writer. That is an talent not cleverness.
And we still use these 3 words in greece 2.500 thousand years later..such is their power
I think a book called the Giver talked about what happens when you say love is a useless word.
Everyone has his or her own definition of love. Love will always keep us alive.
This is very helpful! My boyfriend and i are at the 1 year mark. Because I don't get that constant rush like i used to, I thought maybe i didn't love him anymore. I've studied it and discovered that I'm in a normal stage of my relationship, but I'm happy to see it has a name :)
Even with all that publicity, I still feel the Greece and Greeks are underrated and largely unknown, especially post-classical Greece.
Δημήτρης Παπαδόπουλος there are but we are terrible in publishing them...from medicine,science ,high tech radar systems (which supplied the US army) etc...many modern achievements but we do nothing to publish them for the world to see.
I'd like to know what the background music in this video is - I really liked it!
How beautiful to see such meaning mentioned on the Quran 30:21 And one of His signs is that He created mates for you from yourselves that you may find rest in them, and He put between you love and compassion. The words love and compassion translated from Arabic to show the meaning of empathy, care, mercy and genuine attention.
How beautiful is that 💚
This is perfectly done and explained!
Wow. The last word Agape captured me. I was like that's why it's okay to feel for someone so imperfect! Loved this video
A grape you 😂
Good shit
I've always found that to be a little oxymoronic..
Could you please do a video about the difference between "love and relationship" , for example when two people love each other but they aren't seem to capable of forming a good relationship together. It is difficult to find someone you love for who they are, yet after you find it, it is more difficult to build a relationship together. Whereas it seems that we are good at maintaining relationships with our boss, friends even strangers who we love less than our true love.
Thank you. @School of life
When a bird falls in love with a fish because fish is a fish, and the fish falls in love with that bird because the bird is a bird. But the bird flies in the sky while fish swims under the water. Does that mean that can never form a reasonable stable relationship?
I don't use the word love unless I mean it. I'll say I care about you or that I think you are an amazing person, and other phrases along those lines, but I won't say I love you unless I mean it. My boyfriend does that too. He tells me he loves me like once a week, whenever I do something that he thinks deserves the word love. I think it's cute! I want to mean what I say. I don't normally have noticeable happy or sad feelings for things, so when I say I love you it's like me trying to show you my feelings. Accept them if you get the chance
This video is better than I expected (its title is kind of misleading, and unpleasant, to say the least). There are, certainly, different kinds of love - but that doesn't make Love an "useless word". Quite the contrary: Love encompasses its different kinds, while also referring to what they have in common.
Philia can mean "spiritual love" (as in "philosophy" - love of wisdom), or "soul love", "soul connection" (definitely warmer than "friendship", something touched upon in the video). It applies also to "love in the family" (parents and their children, etc.)
Eros may sometimes be sheer lust. More importantly, at its best, it is a combination of Philia ("soul love") with physical desire. So, Eros and Philia are not mutually exclusive. However, in a good couple relationship, Eros tends to weaken in time, whereas Philia gets deeper and stronger.
The video creates the impression that Agape is the same as compassion. Agape is best expressed in the saying "love your neighbor as you love thyself"; this includes, yet it's more than, compassion, or charity, or a benevolent attitude towards someone, despite their weaknesses.
Truly brilliant video and points made...
Greek represent !
Im proud to be greek
Marios M. Why?
Ali Tuma because they made the world
Ali Tuma cuz we carry the accomplishments of a great civilisation
Ali Tuma the question here why i shouldnt be proud?
@The Watcher
Currently as a greek freelancer I'm paying close to 80% of my net income to taxes, for a crony government to repay said debt. Care to elaborate on your personal experience with greeks who don't pay debts?
I think we understand and separate love, lust and infatuation though don't we? Man I hope no one thinks they can't love someone if they don't want to have sex with them or don't want them around constantly that sounds awful 😓
So smart, so true, and I thank you for sharing this wisdom.
Beautiful..💛💙💜💚❤
"I philia you," doesn't quite roll off the tongue. "I want to get our eros on," sounds slightly suggestive, however.
Unfortunately you forgot to mention Platonic love.
gen_OW where does that even come from? From Plato's vision of love?
Hello there! Oh but they have an extra video on that issue. Just search on youtube for: " The School of Life / The Platonic Love & The Troubadours".
Have a nice day:-)
I think you missed the point of the video.
I really didn't actually, it's quite rational to suggest that as they were discussing the different types of love the ancient Greeks had philosophized about, why not talk about all of them? They missed one type of it and therefore I pointed it out, however the video was decent I've got nothing against it.
"Platonic" is not Ancient Greek. It can be traced back to the 17th century, where it was used in reference to a discussion of love in Plato's Symposium.
In my opinion, we should all use the word love more frequently without qualifying what specific type of love is being felt by the person expressing it.
It should be contextually implicit what type of love is in the associative meaning to be subjectively interpreted.
That was beautiful, thank you so much
Now I know what I'm feeling and when I'm feeling it, and I'm not pondering on the type of love I feel anymore. Thanks!
I used to be addicted to this channel, but I find it so preachy and smug now. Anyone else? Or maybe just me.
Though he means well, Alain does have a narrative voice in text and audio that can come across as quite preachy and paternalistic at times, as though he insists on not only preparing our meal but also feeding it to us, carefully cut morsel by carefully cut morsel.
philip kerpen Nicely said
maybe you WISED-UP and can be your own Philosopher. you matured!
Maybe it’s resistance or maybe you now know your stuff or maybe you have just gone past the eros part of your relationship with SoL
Omg same
I erosphiliagape you!
😘🌐✌🏼❤️🕯
I can't google this.
Also because in English, the word love is so overused that it became lesser than the word like now.
My favorite School of Life video.
My people, my brothers and sisters, my human family, "Agape" is what our world, our home is missing. Tears comes to my eyes when I had just realized this is where we fall short in humanity as a whole. Many of you persons reading this, my name is Ismail. I don't know you, you don't know me but I love you ALL!
I just say love to everyone. Not to just anyone. For example, I love all of you. 😊👍🏼
Thats very warm hearted of you :)
Thank you
Lust is often mistaken for love. Though, at the end of the day, most love is based on lust, however disguised it might be. Name one form of love for which there isn't a Freudian interpretation?
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Real Alkis hahahahaha!!
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Sometimes the best words are one that need context and a deeper understanding from both the speaker and receiver. And just because there's an obsession with a single word or phrase doesn't disqualify it from having real meaning. I can't believe this channel still convinces people with "weak tea" logic and a great animation.
Very insightful, thank you 😊
When you realize you've experienced all 3 since the beginning of the relationship in 8 months : >
Love is the best feeling :)
Cannaman sometimes ...but in a good way!
Cannaman .. I am in not good time with it either and i hope the better for you
Cannaman its ok.. The time will heals every thing good luck
Cannaman I'm curious, did it get any better? Lol
Throughout all the years I've been on this accursed world I've never been able to achieve the love I've always wanted. I guess fate is never on my side.
So many people are in the same boat but I can tell you believing fate isn’t on ur side doesn’t increase your chances
Wow you nailed it with the not feeling decent, sane or normal part!
I simply love his voice 💕💕💕💕💞💞