In high stakes that’s supposed to be a call, now if hero had any info on villain he can decide otherwise. Sounds like hero was just afraid of villain by him calling him the best player
Why aren't you 5-betting to 750-800? There are two hands villain could represent, A,Q with the A of spades and AA with the A of spades but you wouldn't know that because you just flat the 4-bet. Villain could have easily jammed the river with A,Q because you're under repped.
A good villain can take this line with 3 combos of QQ, 6 combos of AA, and well as a 2-3 Ax suited combos, which totals roughly 12 value combos that you lose to. If the villain is a little more aggressive we can add a 4-5 more suited spade hands which bring the total number of combos you that beat you to 16. You beat 12 value combos of AQ, and 4 bluff combos of AKs with the ace of spades. In total you beat roughly 16 combos. I think KK with the king of spades is good at least half the time here and you only need to be good about a third of the time to make a profitable call.
Why do people call when they don't have a reveal there's no point they're not going to listen to Bert's answer because he doesn't really have one when he doesn't know what you ran into
That is not a “brick” on the river when you don’t have a flush and there is now a straight possibility. Dude could of had 45s and just went to town when he saw 63o come up on the flop.
Here is thing... if you think he is a better player than you; just 5 bet or Jam flop or pre flop because against better players u simply reduce variance. Why let him make moves on you ? I play against better players or who are more aggro then me I simply play ABC poker if I have a great hand. Why play tricky against someone who u know is better player?
5bet... all in? its a good 4bet size actually our range doesnt want to have a raise non-all in because we must call so wide if it gets jammed on (bad when we 5bet bluff). so that means 3bet bigger actually, alot bigger. as played call river lose to aces sometimes. this dude likely only guy in the room who knows 4bet pots so his bluffs print. call him and be prepared to lose sometimes, but win enough
Seems like he pegged you as folding everything except QQ here and was right. Not trying to be rude. I’ve had people say “you’re the best guy at the table” or “I can never tell what you have.” Both mean the same thing, I don’t wanna get involved with you.
Seems like he pegged you as folding everything except QQ here and was right. Not trying to be rude. I’ve had people say “you’re the best guy at the table” or “I can never tell what you have.” Both mean the same thing, I don’t wanna get involved with you.
How to lose the maximum, lol. If you’re scared of doing the right play cause you don’t want to lose money just don’t play…..you’re going to lose it anyways
This is a clear call, especially having the K of spades and the queen of spades out there. There is no way the opponent has the flush here and you also completely under-repped your hand. You say he is the best at the table so should have a balance 4 betting preflop between good and worse hands, and also a good balance bluffing and value betting.
I can’t fold this lol. What is he 4 Betting with 2 spades in his hand other than AJ and A10?? I think I just gotta call here AQ QJ or Q10 probably feels like they’re good with the way the caller played it. Maybe JJ or 10s or 99s to try to get a Q to fold. So many hands you beat
I’m way more worried about A5spades than A10spades or even AJspades given villain 4bet pre. Also I don’t see QJ/QT jamming river for full pot for value. AQ is the razor thin minimum value hand for Villain when jams for pot on the river targeting specifically hero’s KQ. Even that’s shakey. That being said my gut says KK with the Kspades is a call. You beat the very bottom of value and his most often bluff, AK. And I just think there’s so much AK,AQ here. AA,QQ,A5spades all there to crush souls tho so I maybe fold KK no spade
@@patrickgunning6923 I don't think A5s is 4-betting. I can see AJs, maybe A10s but those hands are pretty standard calling a 3-bet in position though. I can definitely see villain jamming the river with A,Q because we're under repped. Flip a coin, I can see villain with AQ or AA.
@@ThePatriots010304 Obvi there’s wiggle room but generally; suited A-rag kicker type hands make excellent 4bets as they 1.) weaken your 4bet range, allowing you to get more value with your strong hands 2.) Draw to nut flushes and straights and 3.) Block your opponents from having as many A’s. Mostly all proficient players are 4betting A5 suited as a bluff with some frequency. Also, it doesn’t matter how we repped our hand. Name 1 hand (other than KQ) that hero gets to the river with and can call a slightly larger than pot sized bet that is also loosing to AQ. If villain can’t get calls from anything he beats then he can’t value bet AQ which means he’s inadvertently bluffing with it.
Hero range: 10s, JJ, QQ, AQs, AKs His Range: Pre Flop - AA, QQ, AK, AQs, AJs, JJ, 10s, 9s, Suited connector (Good player) Post Flop - AA, QQ, AK (spade), JJ, 10s, 9s, spades Post Turn - AA (spade), QQ, AK (spade), spades Post River - AK (spade blocker), spades (AJ, 9-10, 10-J) Hero range don't have a flush except AKs. AA (spade), QQ, small flush will small bet for value (like $600-$1200), we can remove them. If he had Ace spade blocker, he could pull off the bluff knowing you are weak. Meaning, Its literally AK (spade), AJ (spades). Calling decision would depend on other factors: If he is not capable for 4 bet AJs, its a call.
@@Badbentham QQ will have hard time getting any pot size value with any of Hero's range. Only callers would be flush. Villain may try to make it look like a bluff to get Js, 10s to call. AA can't be betting full size. What is this achieving? Getting value from AQ, Js would be tough. Ace spade blocker bluff would be to get Sets and Two pairs to fold. Hero don't have any Sets and Two pairs in range.
I think that’s a call.
In high stakes that’s supposed to be a call, now if hero had any info on villain he can decide otherwise. Sounds like hero was just afraid of villain by him calling him the best player
I'd say against the best player you have to call for sure because the best player should have some bluffs here. Against an OMC maybe you could fold.
@@drfunkinstein1against an OMC you could probably just fold the flop.
For real. He's talking about folding the turn for only $375, with an overpair and the Ks.
What a useless story. Nothing to tell or reveal. No epiphany. No strategy considerations. Nothing. Worthless
We learned how terrible the caller is.
Yes absolutely pointless
Why aren't you 5-betting to 750-800? There are two hands villain could represent, A,Q with the A of spades and AA with the A of spades but you wouldn't know that because you just flat the 4-bet. Villain could have easily jammed the river with A,Q because you're under repped.
What about QQ?
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Easy jamming preflop
i mean too deep to jam the 3 bet but def 4 betting to like 750
@nihaarshah7982 you mean you're 5 betting to 750?
Way too deep to 5-bet shove. Should be 5-betting to 750-800.
@@nihaarshah7982$1100
That's what I would have done if he has aces he has aces
It all depends on his 4bet frequency. AA and QQ are possibilities, but so are AQ and AK. Against a balanced oppo you can’t fold the river.
So what are your calls 😂 qq only 😂 no its a call i think
It’s a call you lose to QQ and AA and beats all other value
A really good player will sometimes find a 4 bet with suited connectors and smaller pocket pairs. I'll 4 bet JJ vs certain opponents.
Trivial call against a good player imo
Easy call. And I would have jammed after the 3rd raise.
A good villain can take this line with 3 combos of QQ, 6 combos of AA, and well as a 2-3 Ax suited combos, which totals roughly 12 value combos that you lose to. If the villain is a little more aggressive we can add a 4-5 more suited spade hands which bring the total number of combos you that beat you to 16. You beat 12 value combos of AQ, and 4 bluff combos of AKs with the ace of spades. In total you beat roughly 16 combos. I think KK with the king of spades is good at least half the time here and you only need to be good about a third of the time to make a profitable call.
Against a good player, shouldn’t we just get this in preflop? Totally avoid these tough post flop spots.
Why do people call when they don't have a reveal there's no point they're not going to listen to Bert's answer because he doesn't really have one when he doesn't know what you ran into
My guess is your boy had As Qd. You jam he calls you win a big one. Jmo
Doesnt his line from beginning to end not seem more like either QQ or AA?
Scared money dont make no money. He bullied you. What does he think he has? AA or QQ? Im taking my chances.
That is not a “brick” on the river when you don’t have a flush and there is now a straight possibility. Dude could of had 45s and just went to town when he saw 63o come up on the flop.
My guy folded kings vs 7 Duece 😂
Here is thing... if you think he is a better player than you; just 5 bet or Jam flop or pre flop because against better players u simply reduce variance. Why let him make moves on you ? I play against better players or who are more aggro then me I simply play ABC poker if I have a great hand. Why play tricky against someone who u know is better player?
5bet... all in? its a good 4bet size actually our range doesnt want to have a raise non-all in because we must call so wide if it gets jammed on (bad when we 5bet bluff). so that means 3bet bigger actually, alot bigger. as played call river lose to aces sometimes. this dude likely only guy in the room who knows 4bet pots so his bluffs print. call him and be prepared to lose sometimes, but win enough
Seems like he pegged you as folding everything except QQ here and was right. Not trying to be rude. I’ve had people say “you’re the best guy at the table” or “I can never tell what you have.” Both mean the same thing, I don’t wanna get involved with you.
Seems like he pegged you as folding everything except QQ here and was right. Not trying to be rude. I’ve had people say “you’re the best guy at the table” or “I can never tell what you have.” Both mean the same thing, I don’t wanna get involved with you.
How to lose the maximum, lol.
If you’re scared of doing the right play cause you don’t want to lose money just don’t play…..you’re going to lose it anyways
I'm pretty sure I'm snapping. So rarely is someone using such a bad size on the turn for value and obviously unblocking all of his Ax
This is a clear call, especially having the K of spades and the queen of spades out there. There is no way the opponent has the flush here and you also completely under-repped your hand.
You say he is the best at the table so should have a balance 4 betting preflop between good and worse hands, and also a good balance bluffing and value betting.
If the mentionned player is anythibg else but a NIT, who only has AA, KK and QQ in his 4 vbet range, it's a call river.
Why not just jam the 4bet and save yourself a difficult spot. Rich fish in high stakes.
We are under repped though
Calling a 4bet on the BB is far from under repped
I can’t fold this lol. What is he 4 Betting with 2 spades in his hand other than AJ and A10?? I think I just gotta call here AQ QJ or Q10 probably feels like they’re good with the way the caller played it. Maybe JJ or 10s or 99s to try to get a Q to fold. So many hands you beat
I don't think a queen is folding here
@@brianfloyd2279 I mean the caller folded KK 😂
I’m way more worried about A5spades than A10spades or even AJspades given villain 4bet pre.
Also I don’t see QJ/QT jamming river for full pot for value. AQ is the razor thin minimum value hand for Villain when jams for pot on the river targeting specifically hero’s KQ. Even that’s shakey.
That being said my gut says KK with the Kspades is a call. You beat the very bottom of value and his most often bluff, AK. And I just think there’s so much AK,AQ here. AA,QQ,A5spades all there to crush souls tho so I maybe fold KK no spade
@@patrickgunning6923 I don't think A5s is 4-betting. I can see AJs, maybe A10s but those hands are pretty standard calling a 3-bet in position though. I can definitely see villain jamming the river with A,Q because we're under repped. Flip a coin, I can see villain with AQ or AA.
@@ThePatriots010304 Obvi there’s wiggle room but generally; suited A-rag kicker type hands make excellent 4bets as they 1.) weaken your 4bet range, allowing you to get more value with your strong hands 2.) Draw to nut flushes and straights and 3.) Block your opponents from having as many A’s. Mostly all proficient players are 4betting A5 suited as a bluff with some frequency.
Also, it doesn’t matter how we repped our hand. Name 1 hand (other than KQ) that hero gets to the river with and can call a slightly larger than pot sized bet that is also loosing to AQ. If villain can’t get calls from anything he beats then he can’t value bet AQ which means he’s inadvertently bluffing with it.
Hero range: 10s, JJ, QQ, AQs, AKs
His Range:
Pre Flop - AA, QQ, AK, AQs, AJs, JJ, 10s, 9s, Suited connector (Good player)
Post Flop - AA, QQ, AK (spade), JJ, 10s, 9s, spades
Post Turn - AA (spade), QQ, AK (spade), spades
Post River - AK (spade blocker), spades (AJ, 9-10, 10-J)
Hero range don't have a flush except AKs. AA (spade), QQ, small flush will small bet for value (like $600-$1200), we can remove them. If he had Ace spade blocker, he could pull off the bluff knowing you are weak. Meaning, Its literally AK (spade), AJ (spades).
Calling decision would depend on other factors:
If he is not capable for 4 bet AJs, its a call.
Question: How is Villain not shoving QQ and AA ( probably at least those with the As) on the River !? 88, If they ever have it, as well.
@@Badbentham QQ will have hard time getting any pot size value with any of Hero's range. Only callers would be flush.
Villain may try to make it look like a bluff to get Js, 10s to call.
AA can't be betting full size. What is this achieving? Getting value from AQ, Js would be tough. Ace spade blocker bluff would be to get Sets and Two pairs to fold. Hero don't have any Sets and Two pairs in range.
Aq and ak of spade are not there
U only lose to aces or Qs in his 4bet range
I think its a call
Don't show clips without reveals. It's lame.
I would have 5bet shove here. Fuck it. Let him sweat it out
I think I can find a fold here but, I play like a girl.
I would not have played kings that passively
Ez call idk why ur playing at these stakes scared
He should have four bet half his stack
He had ace of spades and queen of diamonds
He had AA you should have folded pre-flop.
Holding the K of spades you probably just need to call that.
Bad fold on that board
Saying he’s the best player in that game would mean he’s more capable of bluffs right? So would that not lean you more towards a call?
Never in my life....
Bro sucks at poker
Why even bring the hand in for analysis when all you do is fold lol. Villain prob had AX with the A of spades. These hands are just dumb
Im let done here.
Got to call there
Horrific fold
Tough spot
Easy call.
I would jam the turn when a spade came out and try to get villain to fold and you still be drawing to flush.
He def had AQ suited or something along the lines… always a call there 😂😂😂
Call!
What's hero losing to as played other than AA and MAYBE QQ? Seems like a call.
Cmon dude seriously against the best player most capable at the table ?
Only two hands hero loses too are aces and queens… this is a horrendous fold
These types of shorts are genuinely depressing to watch
Lol at considering folding on the turn, what is this man
I'm absolutely calling there
What was the point of the call if we don't have an ending
You got played . Jack's or less
River is a call