Neil deGrasse Tyson’s Biggest Issue With College Education TODAY

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  • @ElJefe1986
    @ElJefe1986 Год назад +89

    I failed math 3 times during my 4 years of highschool. Went on to college and took a mathematical course and scored higher than any of the math grades I got during highschool. Life just works like that sometimes. I become more interested in learning as I got older.

    • @beenay18
      @beenay18 Год назад

      My maths score just got worse and worse. It became more and more difficult for me to my mcs in structural engineering education. My attention span just got worse and worse. Cant even count how many times i failed in maths and physics. I failed i physics because i cant remember lot of things and physics had lot of volume. I failed in maths because i have very low organizational skills and short attention span. But in stuffs like drawing and 3d modelling no one can touch me. I suspect if it is trade off between artistic ability and analytical ability. I dont know if it is because of heartbreak in love that happened 10 years ago that is still affecting me. Or i am just naturally predisposed to being weak in maths, organizational skills etc.

    • @Galford8322
      @Galford8322 Год назад

      Couldn't agree more. Also learning is more a delight as Neil describes in college because it is on your terms. You are an adult and you get to choose what class/subject you are going to take, with what teacher, and at what time of day. School as a minor felt like prison since legally you need a guardian and most choices are not yours.

    • @sfozardmccall8
      @sfozardmccall8 Год назад

      Yas same here in high school GPA was 2.1. now I am getting my masters in information science with a 3.8 GPA. If high school me knew I was going to pursue more education I would never believe it. As i get older I'm curious and eager to learn more. I'm just sad that to get a higher education you will probably be in debt until you die.

    • @georgesheffield1580
      @georgesheffield1580 Год назад

      Most HS math and science instructors and curriculum are bad ( under qualified or incorrect ). Same for many other discipline in HS or even in primary school .

  • @Tamar-sz8ox
    @Tamar-sz8ox Год назад +22

    I agree , life long learning is critical ! I am married , we have children and careers, my husband is encouraging me to learn more about home maintenance . Learning how to do small projects around the house . I started growing a tiny garden . I’m taking baby steps .

  • @sketchbook10
    @sketchbook10 Год назад +6

    What you need for true success as a person is a lot harder than what you'll learn in a textbook. Integrity, bravery, diligence, perseverance, creativity, and critical thinking.

  • @radhwanazeez23
    @radhwanazeez23 Год назад +10

    Exactly. Now I am taking CS50 course of Harvard University, because of instructor's ways of teaching I loved programming twice..thank you David Malan

  • @petergonzalez1719
    @petergonzalez1719 Год назад +4

    I named my son after my high school teacher "Daryl". He taught at an alternative school in Salt Lake City, Utah. Before that, was a counselor in prison. Highly insightful and refused to give up on his students.

  • @realhi-fihelplarry8047
    @realhi-fihelplarry8047 Год назад +10

    Itś more complicated than that. Because the teachers have to deal with the curriculum/material/different students at different levels/internal fights with teachers/methods, and then there are the parents.
    And since itś more about right and wrong answers instead of truly being there and understanding and finding out how to do something in many different ways. Then it just ends up all being a competition and you as a student just looking good.
    I will tell you that, most of the books that the teachers have to deal with, make math not fun, but just very hard. So we are teaching people to do insanely hard things, without ever finding all the small gradients of how to make things possible, so that studying becomes interesting.

    • @GBGHighlights
      @GBGHighlights Год назад +1

      I agree entirely. As someone who is about to graduate college with a state certification in adolescent history teaching, the curriculum and plan that myself (in NY) is required to teach is trivial and widely uninteresting to students. State requirements with regents and AP exams as well just test kids on trivial knowledge, not how certain history topics relate to life and future success.

  • @robertdouglas8895
    @robertdouglas8895 Год назад +10

    But when you only learn from those who think like you do, it confirms your prejudices. Only with humility can you really learn through an open mind. Tyson has demonstrated that he gets upset when his intellect is challenged.

    • @Emotionlessxartist
      @Emotionlessxartist Год назад +1

      Agreed

    • @dr.wolfstar1765
      @dr.wolfstar1765 Год назад +1

      That's why people only listen to this channel and right wing media

    • @peterjean5403
      @peterjean5403 Год назад +5

      Maybe you're just being a Tyson hater.

    • @robertdouglas8895
      @robertdouglas8895 Год назад +1

      @@dr.wolfstar1765 This channel lets Tyson speak on his approval of vaxxes without giving scientific confirmation, which the MSM also leaves out. I'd be open to hearing the data, but it's always been left out or distorted.

    • @sthubbins4038
      @sthubbins4038 Год назад +3

      @@peterjean5403 Yeah, it’s funny, the vitriol directed at him here, even when he’s saying things people agree with, like “TikTok isn’t great”. He’s just occasionally off-Narrative for MAGAs, and that prompts pure hatred.

  • @raginald7mars408
    @raginald7mars408 Год назад +3

    .. as a German Biologist... Biochemist Ph D..
    it is NOT about “Hard”
    “tough”
    “Elite”
    at all!
    it is about Fascination
    AWE
    Talent
    Dedication
    Sacrifice
    Pain and Reward
    there are continual TESTS
    Selections
    the daily encouragement is
    to be surrounded with wonderful Persons
    who ALL are under the SAME Pressures
    This is a BIG Reward
    to be part of such communities
    no matter
    how painful, “hard”
    There is NO public recognition for those super human efforts
    1 in a Million becomes a Tyson
    1000´s endure daily Misery...
    THAT is the HARDEST!

  • @Rushshooting67913
    @Rushshooting67913 Год назад +5

    You have to realize also that some students learn in different ways. I’m hands on and have made a good living in trades. I can learn ten times faster watching someone work on something or build something than trying to teach me something out of a book. Some kids do better out of a classroom.

  • @bat2275
    @bat2275 Год назад +25

    BS argument. Teenagers don't like school I didn't like school either but that doesn't mean I haven't learned since then.

    • @wizendsage757
      @wizendsage757 Год назад +5

      The man is just pretentious and attempting to sound profound about something as silly as kids being glad to be done with school.

    • @sthubbins4038
      @sthubbins4038 Год назад +12

      He wants to excite people about learning. How is that bad?

    • @sojournerkarunatruth4406
      @sojournerkarunatruth4406 Год назад

      Whitest Kids U Know | Teachers Union
      ruclips.net/video/Z_YEPx1Jrfw/видео.html

    • @sojournerkarunatruth4406
      @sojournerkarunatruth4406 Год назад +5

      @@sthubbins4038 I don’t understand why all the maliciously, insecure, middle schoolers are attracted to **this** video today.
      If you bullied kids in school for being **more** intelligent than yourself, you commented on this video #whoyoumadat

    • @priyonjoni
      @priyonjoni Год назад

      I don’t think we can paint this with a broad brush. I genuinely loved school. Yes some classes were boring and labor intensive. But I always did well with good teachers and interesting subjects and activities.

  • @iparagonepersonalvlogs1061
    @iparagonepersonalvlogs1061 Год назад +1

    I'm surprised they did not mention peer-to-peer learning in this clip at all. A lot of what makes college education A LOT better than any of the other education I had is how much I learn through extracurricular clubs and events.
    From K-12, it was pretty much learn whatever's in the classroom with whomever is nearby. There may be some room for networking, especially towards high school.
    But it is NOTHING like in the college level! There are clubs for certain majors, ethnic groups, and ambitions (think leadership, social justice, community service, etc.), and I can join as many as I want! Meaning, whatever interest or hobby I may have, I can more easily find someone who's got a similar interest.
    And no matter what level I was with whatever the club's main subject or theme was, I always gain perspective, a VERY vital thing to keep track of when it comes to learning. I may feel weak in a certain subject, but seeing others have the same struggle AND others that beat that struggle is so valuable. And even if I mastered the subject, I'm still learning a lot by talking to others at all levels about the subject.

  • @edeguzman89
    @edeguzman89 4 месяца назад

    5:10 "students who get good grades not because of good teachers but in spite of bad teachers" meaning the life long learner is in them, the innate desire to learn, self-motivated, self-driven 5:48 "a good teacher enables them to do better and a bad teacher allows they don't do as well" 9:52 "it's never really about the answer, it's about the questions, the seeds of curiosity the genesis of true learning" Man that's some real scientific knowledge. 10:54 "Genius is seeing what everyone is seeing but thinking what nobody else has thought." This is the proverbial divergent thinker.

  • @50NewEyes
    @50NewEyes Год назад +3

    80% of what I learned was useless, life is the real lesson.

  • @StopLyingBro
    @StopLyingBro Год назад +1

    6:02 is why I love PBD😂😂

  • @FatherFH
    @FatherFH Год назад +3

    Education system is not about learning at all. It is all about obeying orders.

  • @algernoncalydon3430
    @algernoncalydon3430 Год назад +3

    The quality of teachers hasn't fallen all that much when I look back 40-50 years at all the teachers I had in school. What I see now is that the educational system is so harried and winging it that teachers have a hard time teaching when one year they get a new curriculum, then two years later one that is at a lower level, then the district pushes new STARS program and disrupts all the established classes. A lot of teachers just opt out and the ones who stay just resign themselves to forever chaos of new rules, curriculum, management attitudes towards subject, keep their heads down and hope retirement comes sooner.

  • @MrRathel
    @MrRathel Год назад

    As parents, as experienced people WE MUST, in my opinion, expose our children to many situations in which They will decide the better way to follow in their lives, in terms of professional careers. Not pushing them to follow a particular career. I think the same principle applies to schools/ universities.

  • @carllelendt5452
    @carllelendt5452 6 месяцев назад

    The old-school compartmental idea (distinct life phases) does have some sense to it. In the case of college, all the resources focus on optimizing or maximizing learning. Then, that finished, the family life phase begins.

    • @carllelendt5452
      @carllelendt5452 6 месяцев назад

      The k-12 arrangement, I think, seriously turns most people off from learning. The k-12 situation, my opinion, functions more as a child warehouse and instrument of perpetuating toxic pop culture..

  • @BeGreatDotty
    @BeGreatDotty Год назад +2

    I whole heartedly agree! Ppl leave school and think that is where the learning stops. Hence, they will never grow beyond that moment and expansion of the mind will never exist. They become the ones we can tell anything and they will believe it.
    Example: My lil brother wants to get into crypto, I sent him an article to read and he complained that it was boring and too long - I simply said then you don’t want to know crypto!
    It’s just getting sad man.

  • @mndflctzn
    @mndflctzn Год назад +1

    I failed math in high school. Became inspired by an incredible professor in undergrad and discovered I wasn't bad at math. Went on to study math in graduate school and make a career in STEM.
    In general, math teachers do suck. But also the learning environment in high school is terrible.

  • @karlstrauss2330
    @karlstrauss2330 Год назад +2

    I’m a proud college drop out. Failed college algebra, twice! 😎

    • @ray5549
      @ray5549 Год назад

      In college I had a math professor that would use the most basic examples on class work, then on the exam she would go to advance levels of math. I failed twice and come to find out she had the highest fail rate on campus

  • @algernoncalydon3430
    @algernoncalydon3430 Год назад +2

    Ask a public school kid, "how can you find out something you need or want to know?" Their answer will be , "I don't know."
    Explain to the kid they have this internet thing, youtube tutorials, etc, and they will say the next time, "I don't know." It's a tragedy how the public school system has beaten the curiosity and drive out of the kids by the third grade.

  • @sohailabdali
    @sohailabdali Год назад +2

    A question to ask from Neil. Was he good in all subjects or he was bad in some and good in others ? Brain plays a role in your liking or not liking some subjects than others. Teachers/Parents job is to find the kids interest and then teach the love of learning and curiosity in that area

  • @markmilitant
    @markmilitant Год назад +3

    It was schools that adopted this learning is a chore system what do u expect these young adults to think

    • @sojournerkarunatruth4406
      @sojournerkarunatruth4406 Год назад

      Whitest Kids U Know | Teachers Union
      ruclips.net/video/Z_YEPx1Jrfw/видео.html

  • @2macki332
    @2macki332 Год назад +2

    They should talk about chatGPT and education :)

    • @paddygreen3266
      @paddygreen3266 Год назад

      I wonder if it’s the end of home work assignments.

    • @2macki332
      @2macki332 Год назад

      @@paddygreen3266 Not 100% of it as of yet. GPT4 will do it

  • @hernanddiaz207
    @hernanddiaz207 Год назад

    Teachers in general are better at teaching with the straight A's students, I think it might be because of the good predisposition from those students to learn, the real cause they are A students, some have it naturally and others have to find that capacity, the teacher can't do that for them for entire classes... Each one require different things, try to figure that out for that many people...

  • @EulerD
    @EulerD Год назад

    Yes, ossified.

  • @mndflctzn
    @mndflctzn Год назад +1

    I wish smart people would stop talking about conservative this and liberal that. It's counter productive and frankly an incorrect oversimplification.
    Further, there are ample studies that prove one's political affiliation has very little to do with some conscious logical decision process but rather a subconscious decision driven by your environment. Similar to sports teams, religion, and music. You didn't decide to like these things.

  • @chelok7805
    @chelok7805 Год назад

    Without grades, how do you determine someone as qualified to attend or take up something out if a million or 10 million students? Test them one by one within a few days?

  • @Potato-mu7nu
    @Potato-mu7nu Год назад

    Maybe they should make school less like jail.

  • @willrose5424
    @willrose5424 Год назад

    My math teacher's were discouraging. I should have learned privately.

  • @ghostaccountlmao
    @ghostaccountlmao Год назад

    The school system isn't supposed to instill a craving for life long learning, it's supposed to maintain it. Kids are ALWAYS asking questions, ALWAYS going "why, why, why?" but give them like 3 years in any school and they suddenly hate it. I've never known a kid that wanted to go to school except for the ones that are abused at home. So schools are failing even worse than we think, because kids already want to learn and we've messed that up.

  • @mrchapin94
    @mrchapin94 Год назад

    I'm glad I'm not in school college's way too expensive

  • @UnworthySubject
    @UnworthySubject Год назад

    Our attention span has been severely altered to the point where information passes right by. We look but don't see, we hear but don't listen. We've become autonomous by design. This goes all the way back to schools and how we undervalue our teachers. The molders of our societies have been exhausted and worked to brink of failure. They've become autonomous themselves leading to an endless cycle

  • @TMAS01
    @TMAS01 Год назад +17

    If Neil was made of chocolate he’d eat himself.

  • @LightningStrikes66
    @LightningStrikes66 Год назад

    Curious …What is the Criteria for a Good Teacher?

  • @sylvialupehernandez9154
    @sylvialupehernandez9154 Год назад

    What about students with learning disabilities, we never talk about them in these cases.

  • @robyost6079
    @robyost6079 Год назад

    I know many teachers who are enthusiastic and knowledgeable about their subjects.... but this still doesn't spark curiosity in many students. Maybe parents play a role in sparking interest in learning? Or society doesn't encourage curiosity? Just saying....

  • @jericclimaco7376
    @jericclimaco7376 Год назад

    Neil deGrasse Tyson always mention this song. Every Joe Rogan episode he was in, he keeps repeating this song on every podcast.

  • @tkrpclips8363
    @tkrpclips8363 Год назад

    Lmfao Pat is such a man i love him

  • @nosumpreefing8287
    @nosumpreefing8287 Год назад

    School is not required to learn.

  • @henryperaltasanchez7286
    @henryperaltasanchez7286 Год назад

    "Neil deGrasse Tyson's Biggest Issue With College Education TODAY"
    It's not his biggest issue, it's everyone's issue.

  • @ThatGuyz82
    @ThatGuyz82 Год назад +6

    The Batman line about living long enough to become the villain is really hitting the nail on the head with NdGT.

    • @sthubbins4038
      @sthubbins4038 Год назад +2

      How is he a villain?

    • @modzook
      @modzook Год назад +3

      @StHubbins they don't know! This group doesn't like him for whatever reason

    • @ThatGuyz82
      @ThatGuyz82 Год назад

      @@sthubbins4038 because says things about science in fields where he has no knowledge or experience, and plays it off as "thinking like a scientist."
      And then changes his tune when real scientists lambast him for speaking out of his ass. Which has occurred numerous times.

    • @ThatGuyz82
      @ThatGuyz82 Год назад

      @@modzook derp. Ain't you clever.

    • @sthubbins4038
      @sthubbins4038 Год назад +3

      @@modzook He’s not MAGA-approved, that’s why. It really is that simple.

  • @orangemanbad
    @orangemanbad Год назад +3

    Pat: “so how do you think we can improve our education system ? What ideas do you have?”
    Neil: “HAHAHAA That argument is so flawed! I put much more time into developing my questions than you do!”
    Wtf. This interview was absolutely bizarre. Neil is so egotistical. And I think after he said he wasn’t a good student and didn’t get good grades, you can tell he was super intimidated in Pat’s presence.

    • @sthubbins4038
      @sthubbins4038 Год назад +1

      He didn’t say the argument was flawed at all, he liked the question.

  • @mjjumps
    @mjjumps Год назад +4

    Neil used to be my guy. 100%. I read and watched everything. But he’s so dismissive of things that he doesn’t agree with.

  • @algernoncalydon3430
    @algernoncalydon3430 Год назад

    Teachers suck at their job? So many do. In this school district there are five mostly native Alaskan schools. The district's attitude is that they are hopeless and not worth even trying. The village is where the new teachers are sent and if one turns out above completely hopeless they get sent to the mostly white school. The village schools are also where the teachers from the white school are sent to be forced to quit.
    But even the white school has failing proficiency ranges, 15-25 percent. It's the second worst school district in the state. So most of the teachers give up trying. Take the same kids, put them in something like Lego robotics, with the coach who has real life experience in programming, robots and other work and the kids win first place. How can they beat the best homeschoolers, nine out of ten of the top lego teams are homeschoolers, and be from the second worst district in Alaska? Replace the regular school teachers with someone who wants the kids to excel.

  • @warsin8641
    @warsin8641 Год назад

    I want to be a Programmer but i get “either work or study” i ask but what if i get good at programming and make money “then make it!” I need time though.” You need to study for that” I taught myself! “Then why haven’t you made it?” Ugh shut the hell up!!!! 😡

  • @andrewschafer7790
    @andrewschafer7790 Год назад

    High school was prison. Getting out was freedom to show school I can make it without good grades. I know I’m in the minority

  • @philipphilip5472
    @philipphilip5472 Год назад

    if the teachr is hot u turn up to class thus u passing the class...

  • @CaptainHammerFists
    @CaptainHammerFists Год назад

    Need to separate classes and schools by gender. Too many distractions and completely different ways of learning between genders.

  • @marioulises5978
    @marioulises5978 Год назад +6

    Egotistical does do Neil justice. Truly an inspiration.

  • @justtellusthetruth3672
    @justtellusthetruth3672 Год назад

    Is Tyson really as smart as we/I assume he is? How did Tyson get into Harvard after graduating 350th out of 700 students in high school? His WIKI page says this "Tyson earned a BA degree in physics at Harvard College in 1980 and then began his graduate work at the University of Texas at Austin,[19] from which he received an MA degree in astronomy in 1983. By his own account, he did not spend as much time in the research lab as he should have. His professors encouraged him to consider alternative careers and the committee for his doctoral dissertation was dissolved, ending his pursuit of a doctorate from the University of Texas.[20]" It seems he may be well read in Astronomy and that's about it, but if you do anything for 40 years you should master it as he just doesn't make sense on most other issues or has an opinion that's not based on anything. He clearly has no interest in learning anything other than Astronomy/Astrophysics by his own admission.

  • @EcceHomo1088
    @EcceHomo1088 Год назад +9

    Neil is neurotic... its strange... and i feel like we have English Majors parading around as scientists...

    • @JerseyBoy489
      @JerseyBoy489 Год назад +1

      Umm alot of smart individuals are

    • @EcceHomo1088
      @EcceHomo1088 Год назад +1

      @@JerseyBoy489 i know... but smart at what...? He clearly isnt a scientist... he uses word salad to obscure facts... that is something a Lawyer or English professor uses... disturbing...

    • @JerseyBoy489
      @JerseyBoy489 Год назад

      @@EcceHomo1088 You must be a scientist?

    • @EcceHomo1088
      @EcceHomo1088 Год назад +1

      @@JerseyBoy489 More of a scientist then this man claims to be...

    • @yodatwinkie
      @yodatwinkie Год назад +7

      @@EcceHomo1088 NDT has done more in his life then you ever will 🤡

  • @happymood888
    @happymood888 Год назад

    Save the college liberal talking points this audience is not easily tricked like your liberal students

  • @KB-Unc
    @KB-Unc Год назад

    Go find a million great math teachers lol.

  • @iananderson8288
    @iananderson8288 Год назад +2

    Something is very off putting about Neil

    • @Yo-oq9gg
      @Yo-oq9gg Год назад

      He is a celebrity scientist guy is a joke 🤡

  • @bobthebuilder9553
    @bobthebuilder9553 Год назад

    NDT is an issue that I have with modern education.

  • @scottsimon769
    @scottsimon769 Год назад

    Last 🤬 💩 🤬

  • @redg3530
    @redg3530 Год назад

    is this a mob podcast? why do the hosts talk like wiseguys? hey! forget about it!.

  • @KB-Unc
    @KB-Unc Год назад

    🤣 🤣 🤣.....this is pure comedy

  • @gasolineintheblood23
    @gasolineintheblood23 Год назад

    Lerndin iz ovirratd

  • @angelofamillionyears4599
    @angelofamillionyears4599 Год назад

    NDT could not get elected to dogcatcher. !!

  • @t0ky0balling57
    @t0ky0balling57 Год назад +1

    This guy is way too full of himself.

    • @JR-iu8yl
      @JR-iu8yl Год назад +1

      That's a very long winded way of admitting your jealousy and insecurity

    • @t0ky0balling57
      @t0ky0balling57 Год назад

      @@JR-iu8yl I’ve received a lot of dumb replies on RUclips over the years, yours might be the dumbest. Congrats! 👏👏 🎉 😁

  • @SeanNgoSweetUpPERkut
    @SeanNgoSweetUpPERkut Год назад +2

    When I was young and dependent on others to think for me. I thought Neil was smart, as an adult who can make intelligent decisions. Neil is just your average joe who eats his own poo poo.

  • @Yo-oq9gg
    @Yo-oq9gg Год назад

    Neil is a 🤡 celebrity scientist

  • @slobodankajtaz2163
    @slobodankajtaz2163 Год назад +1

    Djokovic is better