Honda eu2000i idle surge SOLVED!!!
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2017
- The most common problem with surging or hard starting is that the main jet gets gunked up by old gas that has varnished. In this video, I have already cleaned the main jet, and the problem persists. This is how I solved the problem. Big props to Miniracing dot Com on youtube that actually solved this issue for me. Here is a link his video.
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Sorry for the low lighting. I shot this with a camera phone spur of the moment not really thinking I was going to post it.
Where did you get the petcock valve? been looking on amazon and cant find one like that
@@johncramer99 Ebay can be your friend. I bought a couple from there for around $10. I will say, not really needed. I prefer to use non-ethanol for storage, or just start the thing once a week to keep the bowl full of gas, and the gas flowing before it turns to varnish. Don't forget the Seafoam or Sta-bil. These products extend the life of the gas, and reduce/eliminate the tear-downs.
This worked by the way. Mine would hunt with no load and Eco Throttle off. I didn't have to take the Eco motor off though Just took the horizontal idle screw out and then pried the jet out. mine was plugged like his and it took an 0.080 drill bit to open it up. Thanks man really appreciate the upload.
After removing my carb 3 times, and scratching my head, I found your video.
Thank you!!
Spot on!
We are near a wild fire in Or. and have been without power for several days . I have cleaned the main jet twice with no luck . I used your video to help me clean the low speed jet and it worked . Thank You Very Much !
I found a bread tie works great for this. I do a lot of camping in the middle of nowhere. So, I tied a bread tie to one of the fuel lines on each generator (I need two EU2000s in parallel for the air conditioning). Since in the middle of nowhere finding something so small to do this procedure is difficult. Now I have a suitable wire on the generator at all times. This has saved me more than once. Great video that works for the surge and sudden stopping for no other apparent problem. This is now part of my annual maintenance for my generator.
My original purchase was also for two of these Honda's in sync to run the AC in my old RV. Better and more portable than trying to fix or replace the beast that was in there. Twist tie, excellent idea!!!
Thanks for the bread tie wire idea. It's for comments like yours that I read the comment section!
IT WORKED on a eu1000 too. Stopped the full throttle I had all the time. After cleaning it walked right down to low rpm on eco switch. YOUR THE MAN!!!! Thanks!!
nice I link to your video all the time. NOBODY in a carb teardown covers this important part. Kudos to you.
That's a single mans kitchen right there.
Actually, that is my man cave!!! I may video a tour someday, blow your mind...lol.
This was the same issue with my generator. I performed this fix and it literally runs like new. Super smooth and nice low idle in eco mode! Thank you for this video fix! I'm sure you saved me quite a bit of money had I given up and taken it in for servicing.
All I can say is Thank You Thank You Thank You! It solved my problem. The wire needed to poke through is really small. I first tried to use a resistor lead, 0.020" in diameter, no-go. The only thing I had that was smaller was one single strand of a steel cable, 0.012", and it went through no problem. I can't imagine a drill bit that small. I was having doubts that anything that small would do the trick, but it did! I really appreciate people like you that take the time to share their efforts with others! Thank you again!
Can't imagine such a small drill? Here is a very old joke from the German Democratic Republic (GDR):
Research success in the GDR. A metal company had developed a wire that was so thin that none of the measuring devices known in the GDR could determine the thickness. A sample was bagged and sent to Japan for thickness testing. Unfortunately, someone forgot to enclose the letter describing what the Japanese should do with the wire. After three months the package comes back. The entire leadership team of the SED appeared and the head of the combine opened the package:
"Unfortunately we didn't know what to do with the sample. So we cut in an external and internal thread..."
Found this today. After I cleaned the main jet etc still surged. Your info solved the problem. Many thanks for taking the time to post it!
Thanks a million! After listening to that surging for an hour Google sent me to your video. For the night I just used the choke trick . This morning I took just the carb off and used a needle in the jet hole. Works Perfectly!
Yep. Choke trick only works a time or two then....
Doom....
Wow!! Thanks a million! I've had this issue for a while and in 5 minutes, I was able to solve that same exact issue as yours!!!! I used a needle from my wife's sewing kit and a pair of needle nose pliers to push it through. There was absolutely no hole on mine whatsoever! Thanks again! Owe you a beer!
Will the needle from an ex-wifes sewing kit work? Or???
Will it just cost another arm?
This fixed my surging issue. Thanks for the detailed video. You've helped out a bunch of different people with it.
It is -15 in Minnesota and I was ready for my first ice fishing trip. I fired up the Honda from summer storage to make sure it worked and the damn thing was surging! I followed your steps along with removing the bowl and cleaning the main jet and now it purrs like a kitten! I was a bit intimidated about tearing into a $1000 generator but you had great instructions! One thing to note is if you remove the main jet make sure you note the directions of the parts.
Thank you ... thank you ... thank you. I had the surge problem, and followed the steps in your video. Put in Trufuel and Seafoam, and after two pulls it fired up running as smooth as new.
Thank you!! I took some carb cleaner and sprayed it then blew it out with compressed air. Worked perfect
Great advise bud. Did mine in like 15 minutes flat. No need to take off the electric idle solonoid was able to pull idle screw and the "prise" without removing it. Works like a charm now thanks
15yo eu2000. Never serviced (did use Mobile1 full synthetic when unboxed). Just gas run once a year. Try to store dry/no gas. Thanks for this tip but it’s still surging rough. It’s time to get the whole thing serviced. Honda dealer next door. I would myself but my luck a gasket will tear or a screw will strip.
Another guy below advised you can get to this jet from the back panel. At first I didn’t think it was possible but I was able to get it with some finesse. Loved the shortcut. Btw it was 4.5 turns for me if anyone forgets to check theirs. I used a bread tie.
I want to thank you for catching this small detail on that other video.It too watched that video but didn't catch that detail.
Due to your observation, I was able to repair my Honda eu1000i so it runs just like new.
Thank You SO VERY MUCH!
Awesome!!!
Had the same problem, did the same fix you did only I used compressed air to blow out the hole, It worked like a charm! Thanks so much for your video!
I had the same problem, disassemblied the carburator and cleaned the pilot jet (evidently it was made not so well and the problem persisted), but after watch this video I did a double check to the pilot jet, I cleaned it carefully and the engine now runs perfect. Thanks a lot
Great job brother. Learned a lot. Appreciate u taking the time to help all of us peeps.
Thank you for the great info on the Honda surge problem.It was a great help
Brooooo thank you so much for this video!!! I’ve been looking everywhere to see if this carb has a pilot jet cause like you. I cleaned (replaced actually) the main jet and it didn’t fix my problem. Nobody seems to know this carb even has a pilot jet. Thank you!!
oHerroPrease every carb should have a pilot
I had the same problem with my EU2000i running rough on ECO mode and this fixed it! I pulled the back panel off the machine and was able to remove the screw and jet without removing the carb itself. Just need long needle nose or tweezers. Thanks!
Thanks, did the same thing without removing my carb. Worked perfect!!
Detroit Drone Dude ooo
DUDE. Awesome tip. Didn’t think I could get at it with the exhaust in the way but you were right. A little finesse and was able to. Thank you.
@@AS-bq4fiI did the same by taking the back cover off, and working with screw drivers and a hemostat.
Thanks for the video. I used a #90 drill to go mostly through and then an even smaller welding tip cleaner to open the hole. I did not want to make the hole too big. Then a soak in carb cleaner and confirm the hole was open with compressed air. Now it runs like it should. Thanks for the tip on the location of the offending part.
This completes my training, thank you. I have now mastered this efficient beast
Fantastic!
Great video! I knew it was a pilot jet problem but couldn't find it for the life of me, LOL. Thanks, mine still idles a bit high, so I might drill the hole out to the next size, but it's running good now, thanks again. :)
Now will run like new!! and Thanks for the insights!!
Also, I keep a torch tip cleaner set that doubles as a jet cleaner. Check them out, they’ve saved a bunch of time!
Thank you for the very helpful information. I have clean the carb and hadn’t fit the run problem.
Wow. I just fixed mine doing the same you taught us on video thanks so much.
Is that your kitchen sink your working on? I showed my wife the video and she realized how important it is to keep my garage workbench clean. Great video. Thanks for taking the time to show other people how to fix that common problem that the EU2000i generators have.
Thanks! I have been trying to figure this out for a while now. I am going to give it a try tomorrow on my Eu 3000is.
Hey having the same problem with my 3000 did it work?
My son is having virtually the same issue with a brand new EU2000i (made in Thailand). Thanks so much for this video. IDK how he's going to deal with it being a brand new genny but I'm concerned about the state of the planet when you can no longer depend on Honda. I've had two these that were amazing but I believe both were made in Japan.
I used to be a huge Honda anything fan. Not so much anymore.
@@sheeshalreadyMe too. It's sad when companies that we used to could count on and trust stop taking pride in their products. Loyal customers become unimportant for some reason I suppose.
Paul Lawson Yes Thailand 2200 and 2000i suck. When you compare the old Japan inverters to the Thailand ones you see they went from industrial pins to needle pins.
@@paulrevere9174 Sad. Thanks for the confirmation.
Run non ethanol fuel!
Great video, short, clear and to the point. I just wanted to add that I had a really hard time getting the jet seated back in the hole enough so I could get the idle screw back in. No matter how hard I squeezed it would only go in 95% of the way. Finally I squeezed on it for about 2 minutes & as my hand started to cramp, it slowly seated itself to where I could get the idle adjustment screw back in. Maybe it was just on my unit, but it was a bear to get it back in unlike the video showed.
It needs to be lined up against the flat part. Then it will go right in.
It's possible I did not notice it, but my recollection was that it was perfectly round with a small O ring at the bottom. So there was nothing I could tell that looked like it went in any particular way. In fact now that I recall, there was a molding mark on the jet part, and I used this as a guide to stick it back in the exact same way it was originally. But anyway, ultimately the repair worked & hopefully I won't have to do that again.
The top of the pilot jet is not round but has two flat edges. It will not go in all the way if that is not aligned.
Okay thanks, I'll keep an eye out for this "feature" if I ever have to pull it out again. Appreciate the info.
I am having the same problem! My eu20i is 12 years old, jet very difficult to remove, and now cannot get it seated properly. Help!!
Super useful! Off to try this on my EU20i - cheers!
Sometimes, you have to open the low speed / pilot jet one wire size larger than the one that fits snugly. I had to do that with my 2000i for it to idle down on ECO mode. They are all different. Just another fix to a common problem. Good thing you had the wire size drills.
That is a great tip...thanks!
I have went to a larger drill for the low speed jet on every engine I have some across that surges or idles rough after the carb has been dipped and cleaned. It solved the problem. I have had 2 brand new HF Predator 212 cc / 6.5 HP engines surge right out of the box. Drill out the LS jet, problem solved.
I'm going to have to do this to mine, do you remember the exact size bit you used? He said a #80 first which should be a 13-1/2 thou(0.0135) Did you just go up to a #79 (#'s get smaller as they get bigger) which would 14-1/2 thou?
Fixed my issue by running only non-ethanol fuel with a small amount of Seafoam.
mine only has 30 min of run time and i let it sit for a year and it’s doing the same thing. if i move the choke a bit it’s fine. i’m going to take the carb off now..thanks for sharing!
Very helpful. I’m having the same issue with my Ryobi 2300. I will have a look.
Thank you, thank you and thank you!! Run like new!!
They been talking about cleaning this on the Predator 3500 Generator. The carbs are almost identical. Thanks!
I drilled a 1/16 hole in the bottom of the pilot jet, problem solved, idles perfect
u for real im about to
what I use that's cheap is the acetylene torch tip cleaners. they come in different size in one pack. work awesome on cleaning jets in carbs
Finally a fix for mine. Thanks.
That did the trick thank you so much!
Great information. Thanks! Not shot very well, but I get the Info that’s there.
I just had the same problem, and had a very difficult time opening up the idle jet. I used a progression of sizes of thin copper wire strands. Then I found a hypodermic needle and it it worked. I also did a complete service including adjusting the valves. When I was in there, I noticed the plastic cam was worn. This is why the generator is down in capacity. I have two, and run them in parallel to power our trailers AC. I noticed the newer one is able to run a 1.5 KW microwave easily, and the other has trouble. When I adjusted the valves, they were both loose. Can’t believe the cam and timing gear on these EU2000’s are made of plastic.
Awesome info! I originally bought two units at the same time and ran in parallel to run an RV AC because I did not want to pay the high price to replace the existing RV generator. It paid off. I have not had the issue you are referring to, but your information is well received and will help others. Thanks!!!
Try adding a fuel system cleaner to the fuel tank occasionally, especially if you use cheap gas. It'll save you a lot of wrenching. I've had good results with Chevron Techron and Seafoam fuel additives. I have heard good things about the Lucas product as well.
Worked great even for preditor 3500
On dirt bikes and outboards we used to adjust know speed mix screws. Some leaned out when turned out and were air screws. Most got rich turning out half a turn in cold weather. Today they make motors very very lean. Any dirt or gum will cause bad idle.
I take a crock pot and fill it with sea foam and techtron. I out carb s in it on low with ultra sonic vibrator in liquid. This often cleans out the worst from internal passages.
Drilling kit pilot low speed is a good solution if it still is to.lean.
If you go to big solder hole and re drill smaller if you don't have a new jet.
Old biker trick.
I am having the same problem with my generator and just to make sure, the hole should be completely open all the way to the orifice. When i stick a needle or bit thru the hole i should be able to see it thru the 2 openings on the side of the main jet? i want to make sure before i puncture it through. Thank you
Fixed it for me!! Thanks!!!
Thanks, I needed this .
Works the same for Predator 3500 inverter generator. Thank you!!!!!
Easy Sneezy... just this one easy fix with no other carburetor adjustments and I don't get the surge any longer..
Pay attention to the spring part of the video, mine did fly out, and I did take an hour to find it. I'm so glad I found this video. I will save my carburetor rebuild kit for another day.
Thanks for great video
Thank you! Solved my problem
Good Video. Thank You.
Obrigado pela dica estava com este mesmo problema. Resolvido com sucesso graça ao vídeo .
Sou da cidade de Saquarema Rio de janeiro BRASIL.
welding tip cleaners work great for cleaning carb jets
Had the same problem.... and the crazy thing? Changing the oil solved the problem. Why? I have absolutely no clue... I touched nothing else besides removing the cover, draining and refilling the oil. Now the genny has been running off and on for months with no surging issues. Very well could have been the cover not seated perfectly
Also, the Jet Fuel thing is probably a good idea. I've used Sta-Bil in the past with regular gas with a lot of success if the genny is sitting for up to a year.
ah yes, a precision 0.125mm hole on a piece of glorified farm equipment which is guaranteed to get little to no maintenance. What could possibly go wrong Honda.
Thanks have the same problem 🤙🏼
Still not clear on these: Is that an AIR bleed, or a FUEL jet? (don't have a Honda, but just curious since the MAIN (fuel) jet is apparently elsewhere)
Three minutes out and in awesome totally awesome new gas with stabilizer good for one more year.
Thank you
well done
If a honda does this then what will happen to other makes?good video the most expensive generators out there are just like every other generators
You made no mention of the 2 o-rings on that air jet...THEY ARE IMPORTANT...and have to be in good shape....
Good video but you need better lighting
Can you make me a grill cheese while you're in the kitchen?
Xtra carb cleaner.
Thanks,
Ok, so just a hole on the bottom, right? I took mine off after watching another video and blew it out, etc. but didn’t get an improvement. If you dont have those drill bits, what else can you use? Is a safety pin needle too large?
Read the other posts, there are a ton of ideas for something with a super small wire size. Main thing, you need to see the wire pass through by visibly seeing it through the two side holes. Then, you know that it is unplugged.
@@sheeshalready Thank you. I tried and tried with a very stiff yet thin guitar string and was not successful. in the end, I am ordering a new part for 13 or so off ebay.
I can confirm the new jet off of ebay solved the problem (try as I might I could not unclog the old one). The new one had a brass insert where the hole is, so maybe it is an improved part? Thank you to the poster and everyone else for the help.
Smallest string from a guitar should work. Possibly a wire from a fine wire brush or a piece of wire from a piece of network cable (with insulation stripped?) Second two are guesses. First (guitar string) definitely worked for me.
@@richardholloway3920 Ya, I could not get a guitar string to work -- it was clogged very solidly. I bought a new jet off ebay that solved the issue.
What is that switch looks like in top of the generator. By the way great video wish you can do this again with more lighting.
I was experimenting with adding a gas shut off. Old gas is a killer, cut the gas, run the float dry, no issues, theoretically anyway.
This is not directly related, but since there are so many responses here I thought I'd ask my question. When the unit sits for an expended period of time it's a bear to start. I have to pull the starter cord like 30 times. Once I have gas in the carb it runs fine. It's like the unit needs a bulb like they put on boats, or on lawn mowers. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Having the same issue?
Gas evaporates and turns into a sticky varnish. That is what plugs the main and pilot jets. Use gas additives, seafoam, fake gas, or empty the tank, run the engine until it runs out of gas. Just do not leave regular untreated gas in the carb or you will suffer this every time you actually need to use the generator.
In the kitchen? Are Honda’s dishwasher safe?
Does a #80 drill bit actually go thru the jet? If so I’ll pull it apart again as I had to find the smallest twist tie wire out there & ream it through. The previous owner went wild with the fuel stabilizer & it was totally plugged up. With the stripped twist tie repair it does run better on eco now, however I don’t think I made the jet opening to #80 so I’ll open it up again to make it #80 if that’s what it was
It will go through the bottom of the jet into the middle space that has the two side holes that you can look through. Like I said in the video, it is a super small hole. The first time I tried to clean it, the wire I was using was too large to go through and I figured that there must not be a hole there.
fuel stabilizer shouldn't plug anything up
Travis S fix it too strong & it will. Take a bit and dribble it on a surface, eventually it will harden like syrup.
@@LoneScout1 Sure if you put it straight, antifreeze will FREEZE if it's not mixed with water so.... I usually use double strength and that's something like 3 oz for 2.5 gallons so it's not going to gum stuff up unless you're evaporating a gallon, if it doesn't just evaporate with the gas it's mixed in with.
Travis S like I said, dribble a bit of fuel stabilizer on a surface, wait a while, and see what happens. While your at it, dribble a bit of antifreeze on a surface, wait a while, & see what happens...
just did this but forgot to count the times i screwed the screw. it seems to be running a little rough now, is there any way i can reset it? or get it running better?
Two videos both found it was 5 full turns from full-in. I counted carefully and got 4-3/4. I wonder if you missed a bit of trash (or something came lose when fresh gas flowed in?)
That is one messy kitchen. Dude, get a maid and clean up that mess!
sorry but I can see nothing, where is the spring that is right there?
CSI AUTO DETAIL. Not need to remove the top part..!
Yeah but if you did. Where does the spring go?
The little thing that is sticking out on one side of the spring. Then into that catch on the other. It is a strange design but it makes sense once it's in.
just use a piece of cooper wire to remove the clog
The trick is knowing that there is a through hole, and it is very small. It is the "knowing" that makes all the difference. Then, it is just a matter of finding anything small enough to go through. A wire wheel wire, sewing needle, bristle from a broom, etc. Glad to help!
Mine also surged. I quit using pump gas, and switched to non ethanol and no more surges
We have used the ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
Trufuel is just non-oxygenated fuel which costs about $8 for a quart you can go to like a fuel farm and get non-oxygenated gasoline for about $0.30 more a gallon then regular gasoline when I put my Honda's which I have eight of them en long-term storage. I use non-oxygenated fuel I do that to my lawn mowers which I have two Honda commercials and my John Deere d130 lawn tractor I have never had an issue with spring start up just keep that in mind before you spend $8 on the court go down to the fuel farm and for $8 you can buy enough fuel for all your equipment other than that great video
Awesome tip!
I always put a 2cycle mix of fuel in my 2000i. And non- ethanol gas only. Never had a problem for ever. This is done on my last tank of fuel.
Use the highest octane fuel possible. Will,start and run much better.
Don’t use shop cleaners on the jet. You’ll prematurely destroy the oring on it or cause it to swell and not seat properly. WD40 is a better bet.
Saw the pineapple so I know it's legit.
Hope that's my gensets problem. Will know soon!
Damn. Not the issue. However, that hole was plugged too so when I do get it running right, it'll be like new. New oil, new plug, new hole, cleaned fuel filter. Still dreading THAT carb jetting/cleaning I gotta do.
Bingo! Took all of 20 minutes to fix.
What is “the prize” called?
Jet Set-Pilot-#35
Part Number: 99204-ZE0-0350
In Stock, 3 Available
Note: Serial# (1000001-9999999)
$17.72
Jet Set-Pilot-#35
Part Number: 99204-ZE0-0350
In Stock, 3 Available
Note: Serial# (1000001-9999999)
$17.72
Anyone think its a Honda responsibility and a class action is needed to get a recall going
Sweet video! You must be single though cause my wife would kick my ass for doing that on the kitchen counter.
Please post the video. Thanks!
That tru fuel gas is garbage please use 93 octane or ethonal free gas at your local gas station.
i had the same problem and i use a copper string wire and also with the help of w-40 red spout you can put some pressure in the tiny hole till you see the fluid passing by..that it..!
Just install a bigger jet. Easy as pie
Just like the other guy who ever it is no one can see what you're talking about" it's like you can't afford a tourch.
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Get some better light