After going nuts when struggling with my local team and not really understanding how to make things work in a tactic and how they do, this video is really a life saver in terms of FM. I didn't think a website like that existed, but now that I do, I can't wait to try and create my own tactic again (considering I just downloaded an OP tactic from FM scout to fix my issues instead of really breaking it down myself)! Thank you for this video, quite easy to understand and follow through. Earned yourself a follow! ❤
@@coachroan I went with a 4-2-3-1 Gegenpress with the focus on retaining possesion. It was nuts! I am the best team in the league, but up until December it had ran its course. 5 goals conceded in 2 games had me tinkering, and really realizing that the point from your "op tactics" video about having a defensive midfielder is a true point. So I switched it to a 4-3-3 DM wide, which I truly believe is the one that works best with the match engine :)
@@hidden_trax love to hear that the OP tactics video was able to help you out! And it shows some class that you were able to analyze where your tactic was going wrong, and you were able to change it up for the better!
Checkout my other FM tutorials for more tips on how you can improve your Football Manager skills: ruclips.net/p/PLQRYMrjbotkOxzAFYqJu5cJm0mBJS7Bvq Some confusion I want to clear up about my point on Confliciting Tactical Instructions: In the example that I use, the Underlap Left instruction DOES NOT tell the wingback (or any other player) to make a underlapping run. It tells your team to hold up the ball and look for an underlap if any player is making it. So if for example you use a central midfielder that could make an underlapping run, you can still use this instruction with a wing back in your team. The point I was trying to make is that you want to focus on what your team instructions will do for your team, and that you are very aware of which players could take advantage of that team instruction. I apologize if this point was not made fully clear in the video. I will try to prevent confusions like this in future videos
I am now struggling in teaching a non-league side, it's a great video to advise me which part is wrong, exactly the instructions conflict..and thank you for your recommendation!! Just subscribed!!
You're absolutely welcome! A little extra tip for tactics with non-league sides: Try and keep your tactics as simple as possible, both in player roles as team instructions. At that level, your players won't have the ability to execute a complicated tactical strategy, so the simpler the better!
How many tactics should I have? A really intensive scoring tactic that scores in the first half, then a very defensive tactic? Or should I merge the two? Does mentality affect the defense and offense much?
So there's no golden rule for how many tactics you should have. Some people have 3 completely different tactics, I personally usually go for 3 variations of the same tactic (one the regular tactic, one more attacking, one more defensive). But it's really personal preference. I would advise you go for the full 3 tactics though, gives you more options. When you do though, please make sure to train all 3 tactics, as the game by default only focusses training on one of them. You can set this in your Training tab Mentality definitely changes things up, as it changes the mind set for all your players. I recommend going Cautios or above, as more defensive mentalities aren't as effective. Hopefully this helped you out!
Great Videos thanks, One of the most helpful. I have always struggled on making my own tactic but now i feel confident i can get there, got yourself a new subscriber.
Thanks for the kind words my friend, and welcome aboard! And keep in mind that at some point we've all struggled with tactics in FM. Keep learning, keep trying and within no time you'll be winning trophies left right and center!
Thanks for the kind words! I'll definitely be posting more tutorials in the near future! (So keep an eye on the channel) Any tutorial you're specifically looking for?
I'm commenting this as I'm watching the video because I don't want to forget what I want to say when I get to the end. I think you misunderstood the underlap instruction, the instruction tells the wide player to wait for runs inside, it doesn't tell the wide players to run inside so you can absolutely have a winger or wingback and use the underlap instruction, you just need to have one of the central midfielders running into the box
You're completely right about the underlap instruction, and user @shxver mentioned it in a similar comment. The point I was trying to make was that an instruction like that could be pretty ineffective if you don't have player roles that could take advantage of the team instruction. So if you use a central midfielder that could drive into that space it could potentially work. I apologize if I did not explain that point clearly enough. I'll add this explanation to the pinned comment, so any further confusion about this point is hopefully prevented.
Great video. Just have one question I was working with the tactic creator and for some reason it claims it's not a good idea to tell players to overlap while playing possession football, when the opposite is true. You want to avoid overlaps when counterattacking. So I have no idea if my new tactic is going to work but at least if it doesn't I know what I need to change
Glad you enjoyed the video! The first thing I would say is that it's important to realise that the overlap instruction are not telling your team to make overlaps, but to hold up the ball and wait for an overlap. That said, I wouldn't say that there's a problem with those instructions by themselves in a possesion based tactic. Maybe it clashes with a different instruction that you have on? If you want, you can send me a screenshot on Twitter or by mail, so I can have a look at your tactic.
Great vid, helped loads! On the "rate my tactic" I put in that I want counter pressing but not matter what I do it always says "you want to counter press despite higher level of attacking risk". I've read the article that is linked but I cannot make sense of it 😂 what does it mean?
That message is a tricky one to understand, took me a while to get it as well. As I read it, it means that you're playing with a high-risk attack, meaning that you're often looking to make a dangerous defence-splitting move before your team is fully transitioned into attack. What this means is that there is a risk that often times you've already lost the ball before your entire team can move up to join the attack, and in that case they aren't in place to immediately counter press. I personally don't think that this is as much of a problem as the website makes it out to be, as I think FM values that counter-pressing style too much to not take that risk on. But it is something to take into account when building your tactic!
For Bakker case, is high Decision attribute will give him the best option to choose? And thus make your tactics more flexible and unoredictable. This coma from logical point of view
Thanks man, appreciate it! I probably won't make a seperate video about ratemytactic, but I'd be happy to (try and) answer any specific questions you might have!
@@coachroan sure. Ratemytactics always criticize my weakness in transition. Explanation article doesn’t help. What is it about in fm? Not to have a lot of players far away from the ball? Not to have to much players running the channels? Too much fluidity? Cannot understand
@@d1g1tal83 there's a couple of warnings it might give you about transitions. The most common one is trying to indicate that you have a rather risky approach to football (high tempo, more expressive e.g.) while also having a lot of attacking roles. This could make your team vulnerable to counter attacks, as your risky playstyle increases the chances of losing the ball, while you'll have a lot of players going forward and not enough players looking to focus on support/rest defence. You can look to either play less risky, put some more players on less attacking roles or accept the risk of getting countered. Hope this helps, let me know if something is still unclear
I often tweak player roles to make my tactic better as you explain it here, however how do you deal with “Familiarity” issue? As soon as I change one small thing familiarity of that player to that very role in the tactic drops like crazy. I know you have to set individual training to that role and yada yada, yet it still takes awful amount of time to get them familiar. Maybe it’s not a big deal as the game makes out of it, huh?
It's tricky. There's definitely some impact, but I feel it's more in the way of consistency. The main thing (and I think it's not even close to the other factors) are a player's attributes, and how well they suit the role your playing him in.
FM24 and it bros before, is not scripted... I tried to save before match and quit if losing and try again untill win.. and it still can.. (maybe the AI tired to script because of my patient).. 😅😅 Might be true, if there are script AI but I think, it re-balance because your team beyond expectation, then suddenly all go wrong.. hard to win but still possible to draw... but in the next season it will go smooth again until the process do it again.. Then I try to let it flow, untill I realize 13seasons is done... The conclusion is, just let it flow and your striker struggling, mainly because modern tactic.. That's true, because FM is reality football game.. so, back to old fashion mode then your striker is Godlike anymore.. Its not because scripted AI, but you need to know more about who supply him.. Based on my experience..
the wing back underlapping and going wide point is wrong. the underlap instruction isnt an instruction for the team to underlap, its for the players in possession in to LOOK for an underlap if its available. u can see this by hovering over the instruction. just because u have it on doesnt mean the wing backs will underlaps, it means the players with the ball will hold up play to look for underlap
You're completely right that the Underlap instruction does not tell a player to underlap, but tells the team to look for an underlap. This is something I mention at 00:35. The point I was trying to make was that an instruction like that could be pretty ineffective if you don't have player roles that could take advantage of the team instruction (For example with looking for an underlap with no one looking to actually make that underlap). I apologize if I did not explain that point clearly enough
Great question! The first thing I would say is that it is really dependent on your specific team, and the rest of the roles that you are using in your tactic. What are your midfielders good at, and how would the rest of your team be best helped by your midfielders? As a general advice, I personally love a combination of a DLP on defend with a CM on support. They provide a solid base for your attacking players, as well as giving some great options for distributing the ball. But there are many options that could work! (BWM or B2B are also great roles) What I would advice is to fill in the rest of your tactic in the Rate My Tactic site, and play around with the 2 center midfielder roles, so you can get some direct feedback on what combination of roles would work best with your tactic (while keeping in mind what your players are good at)
It's certainly possible, but I'm not a big fan of it as it seems a little bit overkill. But don't get me wrong, that is just a personal preference. There are plenty of tactics to make with 2 playmakers that can work amazingly!
An honorable mention for tactical mistakes to fix would definitely be over complicating tactics. If you need to scroll to view all the instructions, you're probably doing something wrong
you can add your own columns to any of the available views. Right click on any of the column headers, go to Insert Column and select any of the options that you would like to see. I can also recommend some downloadable views to get some pre-made handy views. I personally use these ones www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-custom-views/
@@coachroan im sorry. maybe i misunderstand. In my Formation graphic (in left hand) shows only Head or Shirt of player not show small icon of (fitness , sharpness and mental). If i download from your link. it contain this setting inside?. thx for reply me
@@rajinaja aah apologies, I misunderstood your question. Those Fitness, sharpness and mental graphics are a result of the skin I'm using. You can check that one out here www.fmscout.com/a-fm23-skin-tato.html
In this video I try to show you how you can improve in your tactics game, so you can make or fix your very own tactic! If you want a pre-made tactic as a starting point, I can highly recommend you have look at the FM23 tactics from FM Scout www.fmscout.com/f-fm23-tactics-index.html
After going nuts when struggling with my local team and not really understanding how to make things work in a tactic and how they do, this video is really a life saver in terms of FM. I didn't think a website like that existed, but now that I do, I can't wait to try and create my own tactic again (considering I just downloaded an OP tactic from FM scout to fix my issues instead of really breaking it down myself)! Thank you for this video, quite easy to understand and follow through. Earned yourself a follow! ❤
Great to hear that the video was able to help you out, and welcome aboard my friend! Let me know what exciting tactic you come up with!
@@coachroan I went with a 4-2-3-1 Gegenpress with the focus on retaining possesion. It was nuts! I am the best team in the league, but up until December it had ran its course. 5 goals conceded in 2 games had me tinkering, and really realizing that the point from your "op tactics" video about having a defensive midfielder is a true point. So I switched it to a 4-3-3 DM wide, which I truly believe is the one that works best with the match engine :)
@@hidden_trax love to hear that the OP tactics video was able to help you out! And it shows some class that you were able to analyze where your tactic was going wrong, and you were able to change it up for the better!
This is a very well made video. A lot of people who are struggling are told to do the things you described in the video but not shown how. Kudos!
Thanks for the kind words!
Checkout my other FM tutorials for more tips on how you can improve your Football Manager skills: ruclips.net/p/PLQRYMrjbotkOxzAFYqJu5cJm0mBJS7Bvq
Some confusion I want to clear up about my point on Confliciting Tactical Instructions: In the example that I use, the Underlap Left instruction DOES NOT tell the wingback (or any other player) to make a underlapping run. It tells your team to hold up the ball and look for an underlap if any player is making it. So if for example you use a central midfielder that could make an underlapping run, you can still use this instruction with a wing back in your team.
The point I was trying to make is that you want to focus on what your team instructions will do for your team, and that you are very aware of which players could take advantage of that team instruction. I apologize if this point was not made fully clear in the video. I will try to prevent confusions like this in future videos
I am now struggling in teaching a non-league side, it's a great video to advise me which part is wrong, exactly the instructions conflict..and thank you for your recommendation!! Just subscribed!!
You're absolutely welcome! A little extra tip for tactics with non-league sides: Try and keep your tactics as simple as possible, both in player roles as team instructions. At that level, your players won't have the ability to execute a complicated tactical strategy, so the simpler the better!
@@coachroan Thank you!! I will try it simpler.. yeah I think it is the main problem
Good luck in the non-league!
How many tactics should I have? A really intensive scoring tactic that scores in the first half, then a very defensive tactic?
Or should I merge the two? Does mentality affect the defense and offense much?
So there's no golden rule for how many tactics you should have. Some people have 3 completely different tactics, I personally usually go for 3 variations of the same tactic (one the regular tactic, one more attacking, one more defensive). But it's really personal preference. I would advise you go for the full 3 tactics though, gives you more options. When you do though, please make sure to train all 3 tactics, as the game by default only focusses training on one of them. You can set this in your Training tab
Mentality definitely changes things up, as it changes the mind set for all your players. I recommend going Cautios or above, as more defensive mentalities aren't as effective.
Hopefully this helped you out!
thanks bro, went from 0-2 to 20th place celta vigo at home to 6-2 against shakhatar away from home
Thanks Coach Roan! I really appreciate your explanations of how to setup your lineup. I didn't have a clue on how to fix those problems.
Great to hear that the video could help you out! What tactic did you end up with?
you just won a subscriber brother! top video, thank you for the tips
Welcome to the channel my friend, and thanks for the kind words!
Great Videos thanks, One of the most helpful. I have always struggled on making my own tactic but now i feel confident i can get there, got yourself a new subscriber.
Thanks for the kind words my friend, and welcome aboard! And keep in mind that at some point we've all struggled with tactics in FM. Keep learning, keep trying and within no time you'll be winning trophies left right and center!
amazing content, clear and concise
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it!
Hey this is a great Video! Nice and easy explanations to follow along. Keep it up!
Greetings
Thank you for the kind words!
A well detailed video. Big ups Roan
Thank you my friend, I appreciate it!
Excellent video man! Very informative and to the point! Hope you do more tutorials!
Thanks for the kind words!
I'll definitely be posting more tutorials in the near future! (So keep an eye on the channel)
Any tutorial you're specifically looking for?
What a great content. Keep it up :D
thank you for the kind words!
I'm commenting this as I'm watching the video because I don't want to forget what I want to say when I get to the end. I think you misunderstood the underlap instruction, the instruction tells the wide player to wait for runs inside, it doesn't tell the wide players to run inside so you can absolutely have a winger or wingback and use the underlap instruction, you just need to have one of the central midfielders running into the box
You're completely right about the underlap instruction, and user @shxver mentioned it in a similar comment. The point I was trying to make was that an instruction like that could be pretty ineffective if you don't have player roles that could take advantage of the team instruction. So if you use a central midfielder that could drive into that space it could potentially work. I apologize if I did not explain that point clearly enough.
I'll add this explanation to the pinned comment, so any further confusion about this point is hopefully prevented.
Thanks for your video. It's useful for meee
Happy to hear you enjoyed it!
Great stuff Roan! Subscribed
Thanks man, and welcome aboard!
I'm glad I subscribed to you!
Great to see you back in the comments Everest! I'll try my best to make each new video even better, so I can make your subscription worth your while!
To the point! 🙏👏
That's what I was going for, so happy to hear you enjoyed it!
8, 9 ten Hag!
Great video. Just have one question I was working with the tactic creator and for some reason it claims it's not a good idea to tell players to overlap while playing possession football, when the opposite is true. You want to avoid overlaps when counterattacking. So I have no idea if my new tactic is going to work but at least if it doesn't I know what I need to change
Glad you enjoyed the video!
The first thing I would say is that it's important to realise that the overlap instruction are not telling your team to make overlaps, but to hold up the ball and wait for an overlap.
That said, I wouldn't say that there's a problem with those instructions by themselves in a possesion based tactic. Maybe it clashes with a different instruction that you have on? If you want, you can send me a screenshot on Twitter or by mail, so I can have a look at your tactic.
Another great video , thanks .
Great to see you back in the comments Efe. Thanks for the kind words!
Great vid, helped loads! On the "rate my tactic" I put in that I want counter pressing but not matter what I do it always says "you want to counter press despite higher level of attacking risk". I've read the article that is linked but I cannot make sense of it 😂 what does it mean?
That message is a tricky one to understand, took me a while to get it as well.
As I read it, it means that you're playing with a high-risk attack, meaning that you're often looking to make a dangerous defence-splitting move before your team is fully transitioned into attack. What this means is that there is a risk that often times you've already lost the ball before your entire team can move up to join the attack, and in that case they aren't in place to immediately counter press.
I personally don't think that this is as much of a problem as the website makes it out to be, as I think FM values that counter-pressing style too much to not take that risk on. But it is something to take into account when building your tactic!
Great video mate
Thanks for the kind words!
Thanks a lot, good video
You're absolutely welcome!
Come across this today on console tho is there like something similar I can use for the squad planner tab
For Bakker case, is high Decision attribute will give him the best option to choose? And thus make your tactics more flexible and unoredictable. This coma from logical point of view
Having high decisions definitely helps with your players choosing the right space to get into!
Great video! Can you make one more about ratemytactic? Still have some questions about transitions
Thanks man, appreciate it! I probably won't make a seperate video about ratemytactic, but I'd be happy to (try and) answer any specific questions you might have!
@@coachroan sure. Ratemytactics always criticize my weakness in transition. Explanation article doesn’t help. What is it about in fm? Not to have a lot of players far away from the ball? Not to have to much players running the channels? Too much fluidity? Cannot understand
@@d1g1tal83 there's a couple of warnings it might give you about transitions. The most common one is trying to indicate that you have a rather risky approach to football (high tempo, more expressive e.g.) while also having a lot of attacking roles. This could make your team vulnerable to counter attacks, as your risky playstyle increases the chances of losing the ball, while you'll have a lot of players going forward and not enough players looking to focus on support/rest defence. You can look to either play less risky, put some more players on less attacking roles or accept the risk of getting countered.
Hope this helps, let me know if something is still unclear
@@coachroan is it all about the golden standard of duties: 3 defensive, 4 supportive, 3 attacking as a default?
@@d1g1tal83 that's usually the balance I like to go for!
I often tweak player roles to make my tactic better as you explain it here, however how do you deal with “Familiarity” issue? As soon as I change one small thing familiarity of that player to that very role in the tactic drops like crazy. I know you have to set individual training to that role and yada yada, yet it still takes awful amount of time to get them familiar. Maybe it’s not a big deal as the game makes out of it, huh?
It's tricky. There's definitely some impact, but I feel it's more in the way of consistency. The main thing (and I think it's not even close to the other factors) are a player's attributes, and how well they suit the role your playing him in.
This is great! Are you a PSV fan?
I am indeed!
You look just like my half-russian half-turkish friend, Roan. Where are you from?
I'm actually fully Dutch, but fun to hear there are other Roan's around the world!
FM24 and it bros before, is not scripted... I tried to save before match and quit if losing and try again untill win.. and it still can.. (maybe the AI tired to script because of my patient).. 😅😅
Might be true, if there are script AI but I think, it re-balance because your team beyond expectation, then suddenly all go wrong.. hard to win but still possible to draw... but in the next season it will go smooth again until the process do it again..
Then I try to let it flow, untill I realize 13seasons is done...
The conclusion is, just let it flow and your striker struggling, mainly because modern tactic.. That's true, because FM is reality football game.. so, back to old fashion mode then your striker is Godlike anymore.. Its not because scripted AI, but you need to know more about who supply him.. Based on my experience..
Nice🎉 greetings fron germany
Greetings to you my German friend!
the wing back underlapping and going wide point is wrong. the underlap instruction isnt an instruction for the team to underlap, its for the players in possession in to LOOK for an underlap if its available. u can see this by hovering over the instruction. just because u have it on doesnt mean the wing backs will underlaps, it means the players with the ball will hold up play to look for underlap
You're completely right that the Underlap instruction does not tell a player to underlap, but tells the team to look for an underlap. This is something I mention at 00:35. The point I was trying to make was that an instruction like that could be pretty ineffective if you don't have player roles that could take advantage of the team instruction (For example with looking for an underlap with no one looking to actually make that underlap). I apologize if I did not explain that point clearly enough
Majority of overlap and underlaps occur with wing backs
@@doctort434 underlap is good when combined with a mezzala
How did you get to show the match sharpness, fitness and familiarity of the position next to the players?
I use the Tato23 skin www.fmscout.com/a-fm23-skin-tato.html
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❤ right back at ya my friend!
Can I ask, if I use 4-2-31 what's the best role for 2 center midfielder?
Great question!
The first thing I would say is that it is really dependent on your specific team, and the rest of the roles that you are using in your tactic. What are your midfielders good at, and how would the rest of your team be best helped by your midfielders?
As a general advice, I personally love a combination of a DLP on defend with a CM on support. They provide a solid base for your attacking players, as well as giving some great options for distributing the ball.
But there are many options that could work! (BWM or B2B are also great roles) What I would advice is to fill in the rest
of your tactic in the Rate My Tactic site, and play around with the 2 center midfielder roles, so you can get some direct feedback on what combination of roles would work best with your tactic (while keeping in mind what your players are good at)
can you have multiple playmakers? like one DLP and one AP?
It's certainly possible, but I'm not a big fan of it as it seems a little bit overkill. But don't get me wrong, that is just a personal preference. There are plenty of tactics to make with 2 playmakers that can work amazingly!
Have always found that fewer instructions are better
An honorable mention for tactical mistakes to fix would definitely be over complicating tactics. If you need to scroll to view all the instructions, you're probably doing something wrong
For some reason I cant access the site u mentioned in the video.
I'm sorry to hear that. If you want, you can message me on Twitter with whatever issues you're running into, so I can hopefully help you out
@@coachroan alright will do
how to show fitness , sharpness and mental in Tactic board?
you can add your own columns to any of the available views. Right click on any of the column headers, go to Insert Column and select any of the options that you would like to see. I can also recommend some downloadable views to get some pre-made handy views. I personally use these ones www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-custom-views/
@@coachroan im sorry. maybe i misunderstand. In my Formation graphic (in left hand) shows only Head or Shirt of player not show small icon of (fitness , sharpness and mental).
If i download from your link. it contain this setting inside?.
thx for reply me
@@rajinaja aah apologies, I misunderstood your question. Those Fitness, sharpness and mental graphics are a result of the skin I'm using. You can check that one out here www.fmscout.com/a-fm23-skin-tato.html
@@coachroan thx man. you so good. i watched and learn a lot from your video.😁
@@rajinaja such kind words, I appreciate it! Happy to hear that the videos have helped you out!
Amazing work! #WellEarnedSubscription
Thanks for the kind words, and welcome aboard! I'll try my best with the next videos to keep earning that subscription!
Rate my tactic has not worked for me at all 😂
You have to work in education?
I don't currently work in education, but I have worked multiple years as a tutor!
Just give us tactic were here cause we are shit at this
In this video I try to show you how you can improve in your tactics game, so you can make or fix your very own tactic!
If you want a pre-made tactic as a starting point, I can highly recommend you have look at the FM23 tactics from FM Scout www.fmscout.com/f-fm23-tactics-index.html