If science requires the exact grams of ingredients used as well as the methodology for the cinnamon roll portion of this experiment, I am willing to provide it. For science of course.
You all sounded like "yourselves" when you played your own guitars (cool!). "Players adjust their playing to the suit the guitar"? Exactly! Musicality is one thing, but the guitar itself can embellish or flesh out your own sound. "My guitar draws the sounds out of me". Exactly (again). Great video!!
last year i bought and upgraded a $100 mustang copy with cheap jm style trim. i gave it some love and upgrades and couldn't put it down. it's my cheapest guitar, even with upgrades, but it inspires my playing in ways nothing else has. it's cheesy but sometimes you just bond with a guitar and adjust your playing in ways you didn't know you were capable of.
Fantastic video, thanks for making this! The love story that we guitarists have with "The One" (or the few if we are poly-insturmental) is what we put out, and it was great to see your guests really show this off.
I like what Keith Richards said when changing guitars, "Give me 15 minutes and I will sound like myself." I think the player is more influential on the sound more than the guitar. Guitar types like solid body vs arch top vs acoustic would have more of an impact on sound. Once you find "your sound" you will gravitate more towards similar guitars overall.
I've found over the years it's not only the instrument and the amp, it's actually what you're playing. I'm a huge fan of Cheap Trick, so I'm always trying to get that big, meaty, Les Paul/Hamer humbucker sound that producer Tom Werman got on those original albums. It's also part of the reason I don't own a Stratocaster. I know people love them, and that's fine. But I absolutely abhor that clanky, single coil sound. I also tend to play much more aggressively, so I'm always going to get a louder sound out of whatever instrument I'm playing. My playing "philosophy" has always been "just get in there and RIP!".
This was a fascinating experiment. I observed that each player's physical characteristics, such as arm length and hand size, influenced the positioning of their right hand and the proximity of their picking to the bridge. This variation may explain why different guitars resonate with different individuals and how our subjective preferences for the feel and fit of an instrument can impact the tone we produce.
It was actually amazing how much of your own sound came through during the first demo. When you started playing, it immediately sounded like all of the music I've been hearing in your videos. I think it would be cool to compare the right hand technique more. Even slight differences can really change the sound. Attack, pick angle, strumming direction (straight down or slanted), and also where you pick/strum.
I've been playing since 1984. I hear four different guitarists playing the same music. I hear two people who have a light attack, one who has a quick attack and one more that has a heavy attack. I can also hear the differences in skin on string with the fretting hand. No two hands are the same. No two callouses are the same. The pressure on the strings is different from player to player. I can also see differences in actual locations on the fingerboard between frets or 1st position. Angle of attack of fingers is unique to each one of you. These are the things that make guitar and bass playing very individual and unique experiences. When I was in a touring band, the other guitarist would switch from a Les Paul to a Flying V or maybe a Korina Explorer and he played and sounded just like himself. Maybe to his own hearing he might detect a slight change in tone or timbre but he could play any guitar through any rig and sound like him. The point is that no two players can ever sound the same. There are entirely too many variables to consider. This is why I always encourage young people to find a guitar that is comfortable and easy to play. Play it unplugged first. Feel the resonance up against your body. Listen for the harmonics, richness and sustain. Then buy a very good cable and a very good amp. Skin, Strings, Bridge, Cable then Amp. That's the signal chain until you've exhausted all that you can get from that. I don't use pedals because they can rob signal from the guitar. I have seen so many people chase their tails by putting in an overdrive pedal, then a compressor then something gets sucked out so they put an EQ pedal, then that pedal changes the gain structure so they mess with a DI. Been there, done that. If you have to use FX, go with a high quality Multi like the Boss ME-50. Excellent video and your pursuit is admirable. But, playing the guitar is such a personal, unique experience just like each of us; everyone is different and unique. Embrace it.
"A good guitarist can even make a cheap guitar sound like an expensive one". I can relate to that, I can make an expensive guitar sound like a cheap one. 🙂 Great video, thank you for sharing that insight with us.
It always puts a smile on my face to see collaborations like this one, I can tell you all were having fun with it. Thanks everyone and especially Nise for this well-thought-out scientific approach to the question.
I also ise a 45° picking angle, and also, I use thinner picks, around .75mm to .80mm. Why? Jazz 3's smash into the string, and that causes Vflex in the sound, or, that strangle/choke when strumming. No good, imo. Never will this happen with a thin, plus back and forth from acoustic is a breeze, im using a thin after all! Lol, but the other thing is Nylon is my fave pick material, so the flex is greater, and the attack can increase to stupid BPM without ever a sour strike on any string. I hear my friends, whove been using Jazz3 for years now approaching a decade, and they STILL, brutally strum. Its rather tough to adjust with them, it seems.
Cool segment. I think I align with Emily's views most. I've found that my reaction to a guitar I haven't played before is almost instananeous. As soon as I start playing a guitar, I know whether it's for me or not, and I attack each guitar a little differently, taking into account I'm not a master musician by any means! But I can bond with several different guitars. The reason I like different guitars is exactly because, if I'm comfortable on it, each guitar pulls something a little different out of me, and that's cool for writing and/or recording. My number #1 and #2 guitars are vastly different with one another, yet they're neck and neck (pun intended 😃) in my preference of one over the other.
This was a really awesome video! I think what makes guitar amazing is seeing the way someone else approaches it.. it’s not wrong or right.. it just shows that we transfer our own energy through the instrument to make it our own.
The beauty of guitar is that a player's fingerprint - tone and feel - is unique and every guitar wants to be played different because they are organic things of magic. Great video!
Such a great vid and wonderful to see some familiar faces! Love the concept and loved hearing the ways you each embellished the part with your own style. Nisebelle your channel is GOATed!! 🤙
Great content. Thanks. Since I started building guitars a few years ago, I have accumulated quite a few guitars and I must admit that they all sound pretty similar to each other even though they vary greatly in pickups, scale length and general design. It’s definitely the musician, not the instrument.
Nisebelle really enjoy this episode. After hearing all you all have different playing styles in your own way also the sting garage also a factor. I like Matt style cause of his smooth play
The distinct thing that I noticed right away was pick attack was different for everyone. Some with more crisp, some with more of a muting not quite pinch harmonic effect. This too seems to be based on the fret hand pressure and such on the neck.
One thing no one else said is that everyone sounded better on the strat for the distorted section. Might be because the sound was dialed in for the strat, but overall it just sounded edgier and worked better for the riff.
The bond with each of their instruments I think it comes down to human nature. The more reps you put into one thing the better you get at it. The more you program you get better at code, the more you run the faster and better you get, the more you play the same guitar it feels and becomes an extension of you.
I love the science approach of this idea with a controlled experiment with this and seeing everyone in one video together was a joy. I also have the same feeling of playing a guitar that isn’t mine it really affects my playing, comfort level of a guitar I know is huge for me.
Great show!!! I'd never really thought about all this. I guess you're supposed to play what ever tool you have in your hands,but I love my Strat and I feel comfortable with it. I guess I just have more fun with my old friends or my favorite guitar .
I think, even if we don't realise it, we play a guitar with some expectations or ideas of what it should sound like. I know when I play a Tele, I tend to attack the strings a bit harder because I'm expecting that twang, the complete opposite of what I would do on a hollow body "jazz" guitar. That subconscious idea of what a guitar should sound like ! And it was absolutely surreal seeing Mike with a strat !
It was only on screen for a short while, but Mike's Surfliner is gonna stay with me. Guild is rarely on my radar these days, so I've never actually seen it, and now that I have - i need one. Anyway, I loved the video. I'd be curious to see how y'all sound while playing each others guitars.
Ok - so i did cheat and look at who was playing what in the 1st section. I think it's SO interesting how Mike played the overdrive section alot straighter than Nisebelle. I think her section has some "bleed through" maybe i got the sense that she got excited while writing that section and I think some of that came thru. Mike is such a heavy handed guitar player (I watch enough of his content to pick this out & I think he's said so...) and in contrast you could really hear how making the overdrive section "straight" really like brought that out - plus listen to the clean section and how "punchy" that take was. I think Nisebelle may just be more used to playing pretty dynamic stuff & i think the contrast is evident, because SHE WENT IN!! Haha. Tbh, I think i would've really liked to see Emily do another take - I could tell just by her facial expressions that she probably wasn't as comfortable (maybe it just wasn't her style...) but musically there was alot of "space" and i think there were parts (the clean section in general + the way she hit the first chord in the OD section) where the connected-ness was not as present. In think the only thing about Matt's take was how "even" he played the OD section - his cleans weren't as punchy as Mike's. I think an interesting discussion point is how everyone treated that little resolution to the E(?) note at the end of the second clean phrase - some kinda added "a breath" to that resolution and others wove the phrase to make it end there (emphasis on the resolution vs. more overall connectedness). This was so interesting! ALSO - Mike playing a Strat given his hate of strats was really funny! EDIT: this was way before I watched everyone give their thoughts!
Is this the start of the Nisebelle Cinematic Universe? The NCU?! It was also funny to do the eyes closed test because I could immediately tell who was who. Guess I watch everyone's demos too much (or just the right amount?).
"So Mike, here's what we'll be playing for this first part" "Awesome!" "No vibrato though" "Wait, what?" For real though, this was incredibly interesting. Really appreciate the effort that clearly went in to this. So cool to see and hear what different people bring to the table!
Such an interesting experiment! Two things really stood out to me. 1. When I first heard the composition my mind immediately went, "Oh. This was composed for Aerial." and then hearing you play it on Aerial I felt, "Yesss that's how it's supposed to sound!" 2. Mike's playstyle is really interesting! Even though he attacks the strings with the most strength, we can really hear subtle softness in various places such as how he plays the high notes, his wrist movement when strumming, and the way he does legato... especially when he's using his own guitar. Of course this is just my interpretation, but such a playstyle makes me wonder what kind of person he is.
I own about 16 guitars and I still find myself going back to my old 92 Jackson Fusion MiJ. I have just put so many hours in with that guitar that all the other ones feel a little awkward. String heights, Fretboard radius, weight, shape, wood types all seem to make a difference in how I play. I am trying to rotate and get more comfortable with all of them but that one just seems like an old friend or a comfort blanket.
Another fantastic video by Nisebelle! I love talking and exploring this topic with colleagues and friends, as we all sound like ourselves on each other instruments, but with minor variations to our playing. Cheers to more videos in 2024!!
Loved watching this! Seeing all 4 of you play differently and sharing your thoughts explains why we guitarist behave the way we do when it comes to gear.
The idea of an tone starts in the head then hands and fingers starts to seek for it but there is also the guitar some guitars will deliver some will not ok. I would say that 9 of 10 guitars are not up to it, one will satisfy and that is an keeper. Look at famous players they got one that is their Nr1! People will pay big money to get their hands on a famous Nr1 and those guitars also uses to be as very special. Eddie van Halen he knew alot about the guitar he built and molded guitars to fit him. Me in an long run I do not adapt to an guitar because I know by experience that it will only cause sorrow and pain.
From this the guitarist matters the most by far. the guitar it's self matters in that it's comfortable for them but the actual type doesn't matter a crazy amount.
Loved this! Great musical friends getting together to enjoy each other, and their love for guitars. I do think it is both guitar and guitarist, but probably more guitarist. But whatever the answer is, this was a summit meeting of great musicians. I have been following three of you. I will now add Matt to the list. Happy playing, dear friends!!!
In my head it makes so much difference what this question even means to you. I feel that your sound is so dependent on the way you play, it all depends on what you are looking for. Can you justify a new guitar purchase or is it a mode of comparison between players? I think obviously a Les Paul sounds different than a jaguar or whatever but who is playing can really shine through either way, and as the video says, I feel that comfort probably plays a larger role than spec. Great video!
A really interesting comparison! It did however verify my belief, that even if the guitar varies significantly, the player still makes 90% of the sound. The guitar might influence the player to some degree, but it does not change the playing significantly - it still is absolutely recognizable.
Interesting Idea for a vidio. I they both matter, but I still think the player matters more. The guitarist can adapt their playing to the guitar whereas the guitar can't adapt how they play to the player.
The tone never changed between the guitarists, it always sounded like the same rig, but the playstyle was different. The tone is not in the hands, the technique is in the hands. We all have our own way of playing and preferences to how our instruments feel. I don't have particularly strong hands, even after 19 years of playing, so I like playing light strings with fairly low action, and I use nylon picks that are 1mm or below, usually around .70mm. Players with a stronger touch playing with my setup would probably press down too hard or pick too hard with a heavier pick and the strings would be going out of tune and all that. I would be very uncomfortable on thicker strings with higher action as well. It really does come down to setup and playstyle that determines the quality of the notes being played.
Great video. The concept, excellent, and how it all plays out in that trying to be "scientific" (kinda) but that sort of thinking ends up, as always, irrelevant. Because playing guitar is expression, it's art, it's individual, and as such it's anathema to quantifiability. It's pure emotion. That's why it's great to play guitar.
This makes me wish I hung on to my guitars a bit longer. My Gretsch Electromatic seems like it's growing into my being my #1, but there's a Strat and an SG that I probably shouldn't have sold. It's been a while since I've had a standard-tuned guitar that I feel like I know inside and out. I have an 80s Fenandes PJ bass and a nu metal era Yamaha Drop6 baritone that I've bonded with.
Since I started playing a 25.5” scale I can’t play a 24.75” scale worth a damn. Never thought it would matter to me but it certainly does…….and every guitar needs a vibrato…….there I said it!!
I made my strat sound almost EXACTLY like Jonathan Young and it wasn't even hard. I just bought the plugin he uses. He doesn't play strats, all I need is a guitar with a humbucker in the bridge. As far as guitar vs guitarist goes it depends on the what you're playing. If you're just playing rhythm the guitarist doesn't matter at all. If you're playing leads, be sure you're not confusing tone with stylization. Things like timing, differences in technique for how things are played - those aren't tone, but they will have an effect on the vibe and overall perception of whatever it is you're playing.
I feel like a big part of it is familiarity. I just got a PRS SE Custom a couple of months ago, and it's a lot different than anything I've owned before. At first it was hard to play. The neck is thicker than I've been used to. The guy I bought it from uses 10's, and I'm so used to 9's, anything thicker is hard to play. I had to learn to play that guitar in particular. The action on my old guitar is so high, it's now hard to play, when I didn't even think of it before. Of course, there's preferences, but I feel like with enough time any guitarist can figure out how to play almost any guitar.
Loved this video. I picked up on how each player was more comfortable and fluid on their own instrument, even though they could play the supplied phrase on anything. I liken guitar tone/sound maybe weirdly - or maybe logically - like this: I'm going to use Slash as an example, since we're all probably familiar with him and some of his iconic playing on songs. Give Slash a Hello Kitty guitar through an Orange amp, and he's going to sound like Slash. Hands down. Will the tone be different? Probably - but he'll also be able to get the most out of those unfamiliar hardware choices and sound the most like him - but it's his hands and his zillions of hours playing those G&R songs. Give a fan a Slash Gibson and a Marshall stack, and they're going to sound like a Slash cover band - Sounds like Slash tone - for sure - but sounds like someone *playing* Slash and you can tell. Those aren't Slash's hands. Then you give each their preferred gear, and they sound like them to the hilt. Their hands and the gear they're familiar with are going to match the end result. I find this is true for me - I have a favorite guitar, and I have a couple more that are great, but not THE one. I respond differently to all of them, and I love that about them. Playing the same song on each yields different results.
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worth noting we all had exactly one cup of coffee and one cinnamon roll, because this is science
If science requires the exact grams of ingredients used as well as the methodology for the cinnamon roll portion of this experiment, I am willing to provide it. For science of course.
Thank you for your due diligence and consideration of the scientific method. Well done!
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I hear if you put a guitar in coffee it sounds better
The whole “I feel more comfortable/more myself with guitar x” is exactly how I feel. This video and the guests are all great. Thanks.
That look at 6:21 Mike gives, "Nobody saw that vibrato, right?"
This turned out so great!
Thanks so much for being a part of this! I had a ton of fun!
It’s all in your hands and how you attack the guitar so I think you will sound like you no matter what you play.
You all sounded like "yourselves" when you played your own guitars (cool!). "Players adjust their playing to the suit the guitar"? Exactly! Musicality is one thing, but the guitar itself can embellish or flesh out your own sound. "My guitar draws the sounds out of me". Exactly (again). Great video!!
It’s cool to see your content branching into new things! Loving the recent videos!!!!!!!!!
4 of the most wholesome RUclipsrs in one video together! Thank you, 2024! (aka year of the Chibsonverse)
I really love how the girl in the purple flannel played that sounded so good but raw and just going for it.
last year i bought and upgraded a $100 mustang copy with cheap jm style trim. i gave it some love and upgrades and couldn't put it down. it's my cheapest guitar, even with upgrades, but it inspires my playing in ways nothing else has. it's cheesy but sometimes you just bond with a guitar and adjust your playing in ways you didn't know you were capable of.
I love your channel. You a real person doing real stuff. Cool.
The answer is both, of course. I appreciate your enthusiasm, well done.
Fantastic video, thanks for making this! The love story that we guitarists have with "The One" (or the few if we are poly-insturmental) is what we put out, and it was great to see your guests really show this off.
I like what Keith Richards said when changing guitars, "Give me 15 minutes and I will sound like myself."
I think the player is more influential on the sound more than the guitar. Guitar types like solid body vs arch top vs acoustic would have more of an impact on sound. Once you find "your sound" you will gravitate more towards similar guitars overall.
I've found over the years it's not only the instrument and the amp, it's actually what you're playing. I'm a huge fan of Cheap Trick, so I'm always trying to get that big, meaty, Les Paul/Hamer humbucker sound that producer Tom Werman got on those original albums. It's also part of the reason I don't own a Stratocaster. I know people love them, and that's fine. But I absolutely abhor that clanky, single coil sound. I also tend to play much more aggressively, so I'm always going to get a louder sound out of whatever instrument I'm playing. My playing "philosophy" has always been "just get in there and RIP!".
This was a fascinating experiment. I observed that each player's physical characteristics, such as arm length and hand size, influenced the positioning of their right hand and the proximity of their picking to the bridge. This variation may explain why different guitars resonate with different individuals and how our subjective preferences for the feel and fit of an instrument can impact the tone we produce.
It was actually amazing how much of your own sound came through during the first demo. When you started playing, it immediately sounded like all of the music I've been hearing in your videos.
I think it would be cool to compare the right hand technique more. Even slight differences can really change the sound. Attack, pick angle, strumming direction (straight down or slanted), and also where you pick/strum.
What a legend! Baked some coffee, made some Cinnabon rolls and got down to work. Priorities ✔️.
I've been playing since 1984. I hear four different guitarists playing the same music. I hear two people who have a light attack, one who has a quick attack and one more that has a heavy attack. I can also hear the differences in skin on string with the fretting hand. No two hands are the same. No two callouses are the same. The pressure on the strings is different from player to player. I can also see differences in actual locations on the fingerboard between frets or 1st position. Angle of attack of fingers is unique to each one of you. These are the things that make guitar and bass playing very individual and unique experiences. When I was in a touring band, the other guitarist would switch from a Les Paul to a Flying V or maybe a Korina Explorer and he played and sounded just like himself. Maybe to his own hearing he might detect a slight change in tone or timbre but he could play any guitar through any rig and sound like him. The point is that no two players can ever sound the same. There are entirely too many variables to consider. This is why I always encourage young people to find a guitar that is comfortable and easy to play. Play it unplugged first. Feel the resonance up against your body. Listen for the harmonics, richness and sustain.
Then buy a very good cable and a very good amp. Skin, Strings, Bridge, Cable then Amp. That's the signal chain until you've exhausted all that you can get from that. I don't use pedals because they can rob signal from the guitar. I have seen so many people chase their tails by putting in an overdrive pedal, then a compressor then something gets sucked out so they put an EQ pedal, then that pedal changes the gain structure so they mess with a DI. Been there, done that. If you have to use FX, go with a high quality Multi like the Boss ME-50. Excellent video and your pursuit is admirable. But, playing the guitar is such a personal, unique experience just like each of us; everyone is different and unique. Embrace it.
Blue hat guy rocked it. Total feeling for the piece. Also, beautiful guitar.
And I liked that when you are trying to sound the same, the weapon of choice was a strat that, for me, is the epitome of a sterile guitar.
"A good guitarist can even make a cheap guitar sound like an expensive one". I can relate to that, I can make an expensive guitar sound like a cheap one. 🙂
Great video, thank you for sharing that insight with us.
Isn’t this the problem with going to a guitar store and having them demo an instrument?
It always puts a smile on my face to see collaborations like this one, I can tell you all were having fun with it. Thanks everyone and especially Nise for this well-thought-out scientific approach to the question.
I wasn't expecting any of this! What an instructive and eye-opening video! Thank you for putting it together!
I also ise a 45° picking angle, and also, I use thinner picks, around .75mm to .80mm. Why? Jazz 3's smash into the string, and that causes Vflex in the sound, or, that strangle/choke when strumming. No good, imo. Never will this happen with a thin, plus back and forth from acoustic is a breeze, im using a thin after all! Lol, but the other thing is Nylon is my fave pick material, so the flex is greater, and the attack can increase to stupid BPM without ever a sour strike on any string. I hear my friends, whove been using Jazz3 for years now approaching a decade, and they STILL, brutally strum. Its rather tough to adjust with them, it seems.
Cool segment. I think I align with Emily's views most. I've found that my reaction to a guitar I haven't played before is almost instananeous. As soon as I start playing a guitar, I know whether it's for me or not, and I attack each guitar a little differently, taking into account I'm not a master musician by any means! But I can bond with several different guitars. The reason I like different guitars is exactly because, if I'm comfortable on it, each guitar pulls something a little different out of me, and that's cool for writing and/or recording. My number #1 and #2 guitars are vastly different with one another, yet they're neck and neck (pun intended 😃) in my preference of one over the other.
This was a really awesome video! I think what makes guitar amazing is seeing the way someone else approaches it.. it’s not wrong or right.. it just shows that we transfer our own energy through the instrument to make it our own.
The beauty of guitar is that a player's fingerprint - tone and feel - is unique and every guitar wants to be played different because they are organic things of magic. Great video!
Such a great vid and wonderful to see some familiar faces! Love the concept and loved hearing the ways you each embellished the part with your own style. Nisebelle your channel is GOATed!! 🤙
Great content. Thanks. Since I started building guitars a few years ago, I have accumulated quite a few guitars and I must admit that they all sound pretty similar to each other even though they vary greatly in pickups, scale length and general design. It’s definitely the musician, not the instrument.
"what is a man, but a miserable pile of secrets." Dracula, symphony of the night. But ya'll know that I'm sure.
Castlevania quote from Mike!!! What is a human but a miserable pile of secrets!!!
after a pretty brutal day, this is really nice to unwind and enjoy.
This was such a satisfying watch. Great concept and so cool to see you guys all riffing together.
There is a TunaTone guitar! Apart from that, love your videos.
I knew which one was Mike as soon as it hit the fuzz … and the embellishment confirmed it hahaha
Nisebelle really enjoy this episode. After hearing all you all have different playing styles in your own way also the sting garage also a factor. I like Matt style cause of his smooth play
Really enjoyed that! Thank you all!
The distinct thing that I noticed right away was pick attack was different for everyone. Some with more crisp, some with more of a muting not quite pinch harmonic effect. This too seems to be based on the fret hand pressure and such on the neck.
One thing no one else said is that everyone sounded better on the strat for the distorted section. Might be because the sound was dialed in for the strat, but overall it just sounded edgier and worked better for the riff.
The bond with each of their instruments I think it comes down to human nature. The more reps you put into one thing the better you get at it. The more you program you get better at code, the more you run the faster and better you get, the more you play the same guitar it feels and becomes an extension of you.
I love the science approach of this idea with a controlled experiment with this and seeing everyone in one video together was a joy. I also have the same feeling of playing a guitar that isn’t mine it really affects my playing, comfort level of a guitar I know is huge for me.
Loved this video. (And one day I hope to have Teeny Tuna money, those are amazing guitars)
Great show!!! I'd never really thought about all this. I guess you're supposed to play what ever tool you have in your hands,but I love my Strat and I feel comfortable with it. I guess I just have more fun with my old friends or my favorite guitar .
I think, even if we don't realise it, we play a guitar with some expectations or ideas of what it should sound like. I know when I play a Tele, I tend to attack the strings a bit harder because I'm expecting that twang, the complete opposite of what I would do on a hollow body "jazz" guitar.
That subconscious idea of what a guitar should sound like !
And it was absolutely surreal seeing Mike with a strat !
It was only on screen for a short while, but Mike's Surfliner is gonna stay with me. Guild is rarely on my radar these days, so I've never actually seen it, and now that I have - i need one. Anyway, I loved the video. I'd be curious to see how y'all sound while playing each others guitars.
A spinning taste and individual as each person...different from each other...not one better than another...
Mike couldn't help putting a bit of vibrato on the last few notes, I heard it.
All played beautifully unique 👌🏼
Ok - so i did cheat and look at who was playing what in the 1st section. I think it's SO interesting how Mike played the overdrive section alot straighter than Nisebelle. I think her section has some "bleed through" maybe i got the sense that she got excited while writing that section and I think some of that came thru. Mike is such a heavy handed guitar player (I watch enough of his content to pick this out & I think he's said so...) and in contrast you could really hear how making the overdrive section "straight" really like brought that out - plus listen to the clean section and how "punchy" that take was. I think Nisebelle may just be more used to playing pretty dynamic stuff & i think the contrast is evident, because SHE WENT IN!! Haha. Tbh, I think i would've really liked to see Emily do another take - I could tell just by her facial expressions that she probably wasn't as comfortable (maybe it just wasn't her style...) but musically there was alot of "space" and i think there were parts (the clean section in general + the way she hit the first chord in the OD section) where the connected-ness was not as present. In think the only thing about Matt's take was how "even" he played the OD section - his cleans weren't as punchy as Mike's. I think an interesting discussion point is how everyone treated that little resolution to the E(?) note at the end of the second clean phrase - some kinda added "a breath" to that resolution and others wove the phrase to make it end there (emphasis on the resolution vs. more overall connectedness). This was so interesting! ALSO - Mike playing a Strat given his hate of strats was really funny! EDIT: this was way before I watched everyone give their thoughts!
Let’s go new vid!!!! I’ve been checking your channel for WEEKS I’m so excited
The picking was so, so different.
Awesome concept for a video! Thank you for sharing!
Is this the start of the Nisebelle Cinematic Universe? The NCU?! It was also funny to do the eyes closed test because I could immediately tell who was who. Guess I watch everyone's demos too much (or just the right amount?).
Love this video and love your playing!
Happy to see you guys all together.i love pancake! and your jaguars as well
Both (but amp over guitar)
"So Mike, here's what we'll be playing for this first part"
"Awesome!"
"No vibrato though"
"Wait, what?"
For real though, this was incredibly interesting. Really appreciate the effort that clearly went in to this. So cool to see and hear what different people bring to the table!
Mike, I love you so much more after that Castlevania reference! @Puisheen
Such an interesting experiment! Two things really stood out to me.
1. When I first heard the composition my mind immediately went, "Oh. This was composed for Aerial."
and then hearing you play it on Aerial I felt, "Yesss that's how it's supposed to sound!"
2. Mike's playstyle is really interesting! Even though he attacks the strings with the most strength, we can really hear subtle softness in various places such as how he plays the high notes, his wrist movement when strumming, and the way he does legato... especially when he's using his own guitar. Of course this is just my interpretation, but such a playstyle makes me wonder what kind of person he is.
Loved this tune. Thanks for tab
Awesome video, really cool idea and execution!! Your playing is so good, stood out to me so much had to peak to see who was playing 😊🤘🏼
I stumbled across your channel, Nisebelle , looking for Jaguar mute install videos and enjoy it so much. Even learned a thing or two. Subscribed!
This is impressive and shows how different each of you sounds😃😃
1:42 "...one amateur guitarist..." 😂 Hardly! You rock! 😎
I was thinking the same thing! Her playing also impressed me the most out of the group.
I own about 16 guitars and I still find myself going back to my old 92 Jackson Fusion MiJ. I have just put so many hours in with that guitar that all the other ones feel a little awkward. String heights, Fretboard radius, weight, shape, wood types all seem to make a difference in how I play. I am trying to rotate and get more comfortable with all of them but that one just seems like an old friend or a comfort blanket.
Love all of the folks in this vid, this is great :)
Another fantastic video by Nisebelle! I love talking and exploring this topic with colleagues and friends, as we all sound like ourselves on each other instruments, but with minor variations to our playing.
Cheers to more videos in 2024!!
the most interesting thing to me was the different interpritations of playing it straight
I can't believe its only your second year on youtube wtf your stuff has been so professional from the start
I think no matter the guitar I use, I will sound the same!
Loved watching this! Seeing all 4 of you play differently and sharing your thoughts explains why we guitarist behave the way we do when it comes to gear.
As soon as I heard the song I needed to play it, thx for the tabs and the awesome video.
As I’m typing this response, that tune is stuck in my head 😂
The idea of an tone starts in the head then hands and fingers starts to seek for it but there is also the guitar some guitars will deliver some will not ok. I would say that 9 of 10 guitars are not up to it, one will satisfy and that is an keeper. Look at famous players they got one that is their Nr1!
People will pay big money to get their hands on a famous Nr1 and those guitars also uses to be as very special.
Eddie van Halen he knew alot about the guitar he built and molded guitars to fit him.
Me in an long run I do not adapt to an guitar because I know by experience that it will only cause sorrow and pain.
Cool video, very interesting.
What a great video have a good weekend ❤😊
loved this video! Keep up the good work
Nisbelle, it’s awesome seeing your growth as a videographer and guitar player. This collab video is so good! Also dig the Peggies! 🙌
From this the guitarist matters the most by far. the guitar it's self matters in that it's comfortable for them but the actual type doesn't matter a crazy amount.
i just know those cinnamon rolls were amazing
Loved this! Great musical friends getting together to enjoy each other, and their love for guitars. I do think it is both guitar and guitarist, but probably more guitarist. But whatever the answer is, this was a summit meeting of great musicians. I have been following three of you. I will now add Matt to the list. Happy playing, dear friends!!!
Great video, cool to see all my faves together in one spot! I also appreciated the tab for the demo, it was fun to play along! Lol.
LOVED 👏THIS!👏
In my head it makes so much difference what this question even means to you. I feel that your sound is so dependent on the way you play, it all depends on what you are looking for. Can you justify a new guitar purchase or is it a mode of comparison between players? I think obviously a Les Paul sounds different than a jaguar or whatever but who is playing can really shine through either way, and as the video says, I feel that comfort probably plays a larger role than spec. Great video!
A really interesting comparison! It did however verify my belief, that even if the guitar varies significantly, the player still makes 90% of the sound. The guitar might influence the player to some degree, but it does not change the playing significantly - it still is absolutely recognizable.
Interesting Idea for a vidio. I they both matter, but I still think the player matters more. The guitarist can adapt their playing to the guitar whereas the guitar can't adapt how they play to the player.
The tone never changed between the guitarists, it always sounded like the same rig, but the playstyle was different. The tone is not in the hands, the technique is in the hands. We all have our own way of playing and preferences to how our instruments feel. I don't have particularly strong hands, even after 19 years of playing, so I like playing light strings with fairly low action, and I use nylon picks that are 1mm or below, usually around .70mm. Players with a stronger touch playing with my setup would probably press down too hard or pick too hard with a heavier pick and the strings would be going out of tune and all that. I would be very uncomfortable on thicker strings with higher action as well. It really does come down to setup and playstyle that determines the quality of the notes being played.
god damn although quite simple, i love the riff! def has a j-rock vibe to it!
Really interesting video and great playing everyone!
Mike quoted Symphony of the Night. Don't think I didn't notice that.
5:29, I think I can clearly hear @nisebelle's signature sound!
IMO, Matt’s was my favorite by far
Great video. The concept, excellent, and how it all plays out in that trying to be "scientific" (kinda) but that sort of thinking ends up, as always, irrelevant. Because playing guitar is expression, it's art, it's individual, and as such it's anathema to quantifiability. It's pure emotion. That's why it's great to play guitar.
This makes me wish I hung on to my guitars a bit longer. My Gretsch Electromatic seems like it's growing into my being my #1, but there's a Strat and an SG that I probably shouldn't have sold. It's been a while since I've had a standard-tuned guitar that I feel like I know inside and out. I have an 80s Fenandes PJ bass and a nu metal era Yamaha Drop6 baritone that I've bonded with.
this is actually an interesting video
Good job!
Since I started playing a 25.5” scale I can’t play a 24.75” scale worth a damn. Never thought it would matter to me but it certainly does…….and every guitar needs a vibrato…….there I said it!!
Hey! 8:37 What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk… Have at you!
I made my strat sound almost EXACTLY like Jonathan Young and it wasn't even hard. I just bought the plugin he uses. He doesn't play strats, all I need is a guitar with a humbucker in the bridge. As far as guitar vs guitarist goes it depends on the what you're playing. If you're just playing rhythm the guitarist doesn't matter at all. If you're playing leads, be sure you're not confusing tone with stylization. Things like timing, differences in technique for how things are played - those aren't tone, but they will have an effect on the vibe and overall perception of whatever it is you're playing.
I did notice that different pickup settings were used but there was definitely a difference each one, even the people that used the same settings.
I feel like a big part of it is familiarity. I just got a PRS SE Custom a couple of months ago, and it's a lot different than anything I've owned before. At first it was hard to play. The neck is thicker than I've been used to. The guy I bought it from uses 10's, and I'm so used to 9's, anything thicker is hard to play. I had to learn to play that guitar in particular. The action on my old guitar is so high, it's now hard to play, when I didn't even think of it before. Of course, there's preferences, but I feel like with enough time any guitarist can figure out how to play almost any guitar.
Loved this video. I picked up on how each player was more comfortable and fluid on their own instrument, even though they could play the supplied phrase on anything.
I liken guitar tone/sound maybe weirdly - or maybe logically - like this:
I'm going to use Slash as an example, since we're all probably familiar with him and some of his iconic playing on songs.
Give Slash a Hello Kitty guitar through an Orange amp, and he's going to sound like Slash. Hands down. Will the tone be different? Probably - but he'll also be able to get the most out of those unfamiliar hardware choices and sound the most like him - but it's his hands and his zillions of hours playing those G&R songs.
Give a fan a Slash Gibson and a Marshall stack, and they're going to sound like a Slash cover band - Sounds like Slash tone - for sure - but sounds like someone *playing* Slash and you can tell. Those aren't Slash's hands.
Then you give each their preferred gear, and they sound like them to the hilt. Their hands and the gear they're familiar with are going to match the end result.
I find this is true for me - I have a favorite guitar, and I have a couple more that are great, but not THE one. I respond differently to all of them, and I love that about them. Playing the same song on each yields different results.