I’m not a marine player, so maybe I just don’t get it, but I don’t see any of the newer dreadnoughts as an upgrade to the boxnought. The boxnought is a walking tomb, wider than it is tall, with stunted limbs robbed of refinement and tenderness. Its design perfectly embody the brutality and tragedy of interment, while still being appealing (and, let’s be honest, kind of cute). The new ones just look like gundams.
You're not alone. Though my favourite is the Contemptor, the Casteferrum holds a place in my heart. The Contemptor, to me, is like a walking sarcophagus while the Casteferrum is like a walking mausoleum.
I think one thing that’ll be missed of the old Sternguard vet kit is that it just came with so many options that I just don’t expect them to do with the Primaris one.
@@oga-booga I’m just hoping that it still lets you bring all those combis (even though combi weapons are now just 1 profile) a special weapon and a heavy weapon.
I'm with ya. And the hand is key for my tastes apparently. I don't particularly like the ven dred hands. I need the massive crushing plates. Don't like the fingers nearly as much
In a recent article, GW said that the Brutalis is the spiritual successor to the Furioso so hopefully we’ll see a new psychic dreadnought, or at least an upgrade kit at some point.
I just bought my Furioso and my Librarian Dreadnought. Idc if the Furioso gets neglected rules-wise. I regretted selling my metal furioso 25 years ago and now he is back and gets a honourable place in my new blood angels army
A big thing with the boxnaught, is that in Horus Heresy it's called the Castraferrum Dreadnought and it has specific rules irc. But 30k players are used to getting the shaft now lol.
hello, this is 30k player over here. and yep. i love the heresy but stuff like this is annoying. i haven't ever gotten a boxnaught (I have a leviathan and contemptor) and was planning to once I got some more money. but now. welp. good news. my local shop might still have it. they tend to have old stuff. so hopefully, they still have it.
@@halfknight2310 I hear a 3d printer calling from your future. There's plenty of 1 to 1 examples and you could print 100 box naughts for the price of on GW kit. 🤫 when painted no one will ever know.
@@jc7997aj i second this as modelers unlike gw actualy care and release universal AND chapter specific fully customizable ferrum+ dreads faithfully to old stuff and printers make better models than forgeworld resin
I think the 4 greater daemons will get new forgeworld kits, I think there will always be a need for exalted greater daemons but the plastics closed the gap too much for the old ones to stick around, The exalted need to be bigger, Imposing, These are meant to throw down with knights and titans, I think they will get brand new sculpts with modern asthetics so they feel worth the price tag
If G.W were to add a 3d print area to their online store where Stl's of their oop models could be bought they would probably still make a bunch of money from these old models without having to risk having production on minis that aren't flying off the shelves...I guess they probably aren't looking to encourage 3d printing but it would be a nice way to keep the kits still available without eating up manufacturing space.
Well there's actually no reason why GW can't 3D print these old kits as a means of being cheaper and allowing them to print on demand. This way there's no stock/inventory to maintain and no storage needed. When they decide to just drop models, recasters eventually find a way to keep it going. GW can prevent at least that problem by #d printing themselves. And let's be honest, the 3D printed pieces would be cleaner and less problematic then the resins they're stuck with at Forgeworld.
The fact that age of sigmar now no longer exists on forge world, but they’re still pumping out Horus heresy and old world stuff is coming, makes me think that it’s transitioning into something just for those other games. Which makes sense that a website which is a relic of the past is only being used to sustain the games that are set in the past settings.
Forge World is likely transitioning to focusing on “specialist” games, which includes Horus Heresy and Old World, but also Necromunda and Blood Bowl (but, noticeably, NOT the other skirmish games Kill Team, Warcry and Underworlds). It makes a certain amount of sense: those four (and Titanicus?) are all somewhat oldschool games detached from the main 40k and AoS brands, and supposedly Forge World are closely involved in their production, so their models are an integrated part of the game (their rules are in the main rulebooks alongside the plastic units), not an awkward add-on the way they are for 40k. They are pretty much Forge World games with some GW support, not the other way around. Rather than being a relic of the past, I think Forge World is being transitioned into being the second coming of the Fanatic branch, and I’m here for it (Mordheim revival when?)
The FW Greater Daemons are different entities than the GW plastics (they have a specific profile in Monster Arcanum and Imperial Armour). In fact, except the nurgle one which is mostly an exact plastic copy, the FWs are bigger, and the Khorne one is really HUGE.
No sadness for Bray’arth? i know templars and Salamanders aren’t close friends, but losing a named character in a founding chapter/egion? That hurts, also rip Pedros, ouch. That hursts too
From the Surinous crusade of black templars i offer sorrow at your loss. I loved that model. It's one of the things vulkan was said to have made himself. I didn't want him, but I'm sorry to see the eradication of all castraferrum dreds.
I just wish GW/Citadel would finally get with the program and provide a new Death Korps of Krieg set in plastic. Also shame I'll never get a chance to assemble and paint Gabriel Angelos, the main-ish character from Dawn of War that basically helped fuel my interest with finding out what this whole 40k thing was in the first place. RIP.
The salamander's Dread is also the body for a specific character that is that body and the two special arms. He's one of 3 characters we had. Now only two. :(
I'd really love to see the old sternguard options released as a non-specific chapter upgrade sprue - perhaps a character upgrade sprue as I really love the options it gave.
I dunno about people claiming the old dreadnought is better. I mean comparing the redemptor to the old dreadnought the redemptor really does look way better, kinda like how the primaris marines are just straight up better sculpts. The maine design changes i can see is the redemptor getting elbows and knees, which Personally i think just makes so much more sense, I admit theres a certain charm to just tacking a giant gun to the side of a box but..... it DOES look goofy... and the Redemptor looks more like a they put a coffin into a mech, especially with the coffin litterally visible where the head is on the old model. Personally I think the redemptor looks way more badass, although i admit having one arm without elbows would be cool, i feel like that would probably be a simple enough conversion.
The FW unclean one is incredible, it captures the evil menace at the heart of Nurgle. The plastic one is just cartoony, which I don't like about new Nurgle stuff at all. (The only recent one to capture that is the new horse rider one for AoS imo)
13:01 I actually like the old blood thirster BETTER, but the new one is cool; it definitely needs multiple holes drilled to run baling wire through the flames and to replace the hammer whip
You must be the person with the most pleasurable voice to listen to. I am not even doing anything warhammer or wargaming anymore but watching your videos is so calming and still super interesting to watch.
The necron tombstalker, acanthrites, and tomb sentinel all need a plastic kit. They would all sell pretty well and are cool kits that add to the canoptek part of the necron army.
Nurgle Daemon Prince is gone as well. Very much regret never getting this (they also got rid of the citadel one) so now there is no Nurgle Dp anymore, and the standard DP kit does not suit Nurgle, at all.
I've still got my first edition Bloodthirster somewhere... loved that one, hated every one of them since. Wish I could be more interested in Nurgle... because Great Unclean Ones always look boss, inspired design for that guy.
I acquired the old bloodthirster from someone and I love it. It is big beefy and has a massive presence on the table. He makes the new bloodthirsters look small. Luckily the person who owned this guys before me magnetized the weapons because otherwise I would have broke the whip like 10 times.
I had a GW employee explain the Choas gods like this...Slaanesh is the one all the other fear. When their devout worship in excess they are also giving Slaanesh power as well.
They all feed each other. Based on the old Liber Chaotica books, the CGs are too large to be singular entities, they're more like storms in the warp around core concepts, so they all overlap and bleed into each other.
I said this on the Twitter post, I'm sad the Dima is gone cause that was one of the models that got me into tyranids. Im glad I got one but looks like ill have to kitbash some
The forge world great unclean one always caught my eye but never been able to get one. Especially after gw went to regional pricing and Australia’s prices shot up like 40%+ over the UK pricing 😢
i think forge world should really just focus on bits more than full on minis. maybe keep it with special characters that might not sell as much too. but beyond that i think selling stuff that can be essential to some armies *cough* custodies *cough* is bad. it’d also be dope if they used it to sell alternate sculpts of different characters like those from the games or shows. kinda like what they’re doing for titus as a lieutenant count as. that’d be cool for like making your more generic characters a bit more special like for commissars.
like if they made it where you could go on forge world and be like “hmmmm i wanna make a really cool custom commissar for my new officio prefectus commissar kit so i’ll pick out this plasma pistol and power fist that’s she’ll hold in a different pose than standard and then i’ll pick this alternate leg sculpt and finally i’ll pick this cool unique head sculpt that has her yelling orders” to me that would be the perfect use of forge world. let us buy alternate bits for different factions with maybe a few specific ones like unique arms/legs/chest/backpacks and such for specific sculpts. then they can justify their high prices despite not as good quality with the more work that’d have to be put into separating bits off their sprues and organized for sale lmao, and then because it’d mostly be individual bits they can just make massive sprues that scrunch as much stuff as they can onto them regardless of faction cause they’ll have a machine/person that separates it and sorts it later making it cheaper to produce molds
The old unclean one was iconic with it's tongue around the sword. I'm kiba mad I never got a hell talon or blade for my Night Lords but the colossal cave squig and squig gobba are the two I'll really miss and kick myself for missing. And sorry but the greatest model of all time is the 90's night goblin giving his foes the finger sculpted by Kev Adams
Look towards China. I've long given up on Forgeworld, not only because of the prices but most of the guys in the east know more about resin kit manufacturing than Forgeworld.
Was gonna dump on you for bieng negative towards the hobby that makes your channel possable, but i was happily surprized. Just a good run through of old models that are leaving with a good opinion on the choices. Bravo dood
Absolutely gutted, I've had my eye on the keepet of secrets for my Slaanesh army. Not the biggest fan of the current plastic kit. Time to get a 3D printer. Honestly the only greater demon I'm not dsappointed with are the gw lord of change and maybe e great unclean. We need new demons, come on gw gimmie some more daemonettes or something that isn't a Hq choice. And please no more space marines lieutenants
Losing Tyberos the Red Wake really hurts me. Not having any official rules for my chapter will be awful in 10th; I won't be able to bring my chapter master to the tournaments I go to and it hurts.
Of all the things, they took my bomber! I wanted a squadron. It won’t be long before there are no Necron FW models at all. And sadly since we’re Xenos plastic for us will never come. The Acanthrites remain but not my bomber? At least long ago I bought one of everything. They can cancel anything they wish. But my dynasty will always have access to these tactical options. Will just have to use them sparingly.
The alternate head for the Great Unclean One shows a lot more personality than the one you looked at! I'd go check it out, a cool cyclops head with gross evil tongue
The newer dreadnoughts are freakin fiugly .I hate 'em , I like my metal heavy too as in dropping the original Bjorn The Fell Handed on my foot and losing a big toenail
on the "excess violence is khorne, excess gluttony is nurgle etcetc" thats ACTUALLY something thats adressed in the lore, the other 3 gods are by far and away most wary (and potentially most afraid) of slaanesh, as she has the potential to be stronger then all of them because of how her domain overlaps with them all shes the youngest of the 4 (by a LAAAARGE margin) yet is already on par with them, and has by far and away the most influence with those who ARENT dedicated to chaos because everyone suffers from desire and the risk of excess, and because on the surface shes also the most, well , reasonable? in a way. shes about persuit of perfection and desire, the excess of all things, but these things arent necesarily "bad" by themselves, and so its VERY easy for people to fall to slaanesh, far easier then it is for the other gods, ebcause people can fall sort of by accident, jsut by persuing what they want and slowly becoming obsessed with being the best, or getting the best slaanesh is potentially the strongest of the 4, and the other 3 all sort of work together to keep her down ebcause they are scared of her
hey my guy. I think I have the banner from the black templar ven dread lying about. I personally don't like banners seeing as you said you liked it but are missing it is there some way I can send it to you?
I prefer older miniatures in general cause they're not disgustingly overdesigned but I guess thats what 3d printing is for ¯\_( ͠° ͟ʖ °͠ )_/¯
I just handed off my original FW Chappy dread to my best friend and the person who got me into the hobby... I am starting over almost from scratch after not having played for nearly 10 years...I only kept my nids (I have tons of Nids all the way from 2nd edition through 5th, doesn't look like I missed all that many models in the meantime though some are plastic now) and started GSC cause I used to kitbash GSC back in the day as well in a homebrew 3rd edition GSC list (very guard like with better CC, fewer heavy shooting weapons, Limos with chimera stats, and some mild psychic buffs).
I understand stopping the sale of some of these kits, the resins that is. However, ditching even the kits from Warhammer the game and killing the ability for people like Blood Ravens to play their leader is shitty
I'm not sad that Gabriel Angelos model is leaving. Not only is it a reminder of an absolutely terrible game, it also follows it's bad artstyle. Goddamn sixhead moai statue in terminator armor.
23:49 I always thought this Nid-guy had no balance to it, it looks like it should just fall flat on it's face. Nids are my new favourite as well (since the updated Gaunts, they're gorgeous and have been waiting for them for a lonnnnng-ass time) but I always thought the Dimmy looked weird in it's default pose. I've seen reworked versions that are great though, you just need to reposition the legs a bit.
The forge world Keeper of Secrets looks like she would love to rock with the noise marines, they should be both in one kit, Keeper of Secrets twins, one all posh and composed and one rocking/head banging with the noise dudes
All of the forgeworld Greater Daemons had names and unique datasheets. They were suped up LoW versions of the normal greater daemons. The LoC and Bloodthirster models in particular are significantly bigger than the GW counterparts. They are going to be Legends now.
they are converting loads of Forgeworld kits into plastic that's probably why, that and the fact they are moving production and warehouse facilities and the Furioso is just the Brutalis Dreadnought really with the Talons etc...
I feel like with a stalactite (Stelacmite?) base for the GW bloodthirster would make him look better. Him jumping out of a bit of fire in an open field seems lame. Make him jumping out of fire in a spiked rock base and have some OSL coming from the fire and he’d look much better.
Sounds like boxnauts will also loose rules then. Soooo maybe there are some you could pickup and turn in to something ork Same for old termis turned in to meganobz
I liked the Dimachaeron in concept, then I saw it irl dwarfing a trygon. Very busy model and a huge resin guy are not my ideas for a fun time. Also, RIP stone crusher fexes.
This is one of my biggest disagreements with you bud. I love box more than redemptor. I've built both and can say I love the box waaay more. More industrial hands is my thing. I hate the hands of contemptors and redemptor/ invictus. The leviathan has meaty hands. Love em. Just like the ironclad. Love those two. But I guess the hands are what sell me on a dred.
i think the old one GUO has a better pose. The stomach is on the ground because he is kneeling down the new one is just looks like he doesnt have the ability to walk
18:26 what is awesome about this slaanesh guy is that the BDSM/armour bits appear to be coming from under the skin, and skin has been torn away by the armour.
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I dunno Jay, I think the best miniature they've ever made is that one Nurgling wearing a deathguard helmet.
Sassy nurgling
@@plastikpanzerfactory6733 yes, exactly
So true, that Nurgling has the inquisitorial seal of approval
@@Triptides77 I want to buy the champion kit just for him lol
@@plastikpanzerfactory6733 I did, and stuck him on his own base. Little dude is so sassy he counts as a whole swarm.
I’m not a marine player, so maybe I just don’t get it, but I don’t see any of the newer dreadnoughts as an upgrade to the boxnought. The boxnought is a walking tomb, wider than it is tall, with stunted limbs robbed of refinement and tenderness. Its design perfectly embody the brutality and tragedy of interment, while still being appealing (and, let’s be honest, kind of cute).
The new ones just look like gundams.
Gundams more human-like, nu dreads are like Rodis without high heels and just plain bad
You're not alone. Though my favourite is the Contemptor, the Casteferrum holds a place in my heart. The Contemptor, to me, is like a walking sarcophagus while the Casteferrum is like a walking mausoleum.
I agree
CSM now has no version of Dreadnought :/
@@DoomBringerDANTE Hellbrute is a dreadnaught with a weird name
Growing up those forge world greater demons were the coolest things ever. Never played a demon army but I always wanted one of them.
Always wanted one. How much? No wonder I don't have one.
I think one thing that’ll be missed of the old Sternguard vet kit is that it just came with so many options that I just don’t expect them to do with the Primaris one.
This, the new sternguard will most definitely not be as customizable.
@@oga-booga I’m just hoping that it still lets you bring all those combis (even though combi weapons are now just 1 profile) a special weapon and a heavy weapon.
imagine if GW did something like Hero's Forge but with all their minis. Easily digibash your favorite minis and then plug and print
I love this idea
I like the old dreadnaught better. The new one looks like a mech not like a coffin
I'm with ya. And the hand is key for my tastes apparently. I don't particularly like the ven dred hands. I need the massive crushing plates. Don't like the fingers nearly as much
@@wiccanthropy1956there's an option for the crushing plates bro
The old ones are hilariously puny in scale tho. I know the new dreads don't got as much cool factor but the scale is awesome.
@@rolandnavarro5946 it's the new models that keep getting bigger for no reason imo
@The Nerf Kid and it's the best one. I got mine second hand and bought the plates. Mmm setting the murder table aaaaa
In a recent article, GW said that the Brutalis is the spiritual successor to the Furioso so hopefully we’ll see a new psychic dreadnought, or at least an upgrade kit at some point.
I just bought my Furioso and my Librarian Dreadnought. Idc if the Furioso gets neglected rules-wise. I regretted selling my metal furioso 25 years ago and now he is back and gets a honourable place in my new blood angels army
A big thing with the boxnaught, is that in Horus Heresy it's called the Castraferrum Dreadnought and it has specific rules irc. But 30k players are used to getting the shaft now lol.
hello, this is 30k player over here. and yep. i love the heresy but stuff like this is annoying. i haven't ever gotten a boxnaught (I have a leviathan and contemptor) and was planning to once I got some more money. but now. welp.
good news. my local shop might still have it. they tend to have old stuff. so hopefully, they still have it.
Would be funny if it turned out to be the new plastic dread that is in the release schedule.
@@halfknight2310 I hear a 3d printer calling from your future. There's plenty of 1 to 1 examples and you could print 100 box naughts for the price of on GW kit. 🤫 when painted no one will ever know.
@@jc7997aj i second this as modelers unlike gw actualy care and release universal AND chapter specific fully customizable ferrum+ dreads faithfully to old stuff and printers make better models than forgeworld resin
Idk, $300 for a fake boxnaught seems steep. Even your max field able of 3 seems excessive.
For new people to 40k like me it would be awesome for you to show models you are bringing up like at 3:25 so I know what you are referencing! :)
I didn’t expect to see you here. What army do you play?
I think the 4 greater daemons will get new forgeworld kits, I think there will always be a need for exalted greater daemons but the plastics closed the gap too much for the old ones to stick around, The exalted need to be bigger, Imposing, These are meant to throw down with knights and titans, I think they will get brand new sculpts with modern asthetics so they feel worth the price tag
If G.W were to add a 3d print area to their online store where Stl's of their oop models could be bought they would probably still make a bunch of money from these old models without having to risk having production on minis that aren't flying off the shelves...I guess they probably aren't looking to encourage 3d printing but it would be a nice way to keep the kits still available without eating up manufacturing space.
There is no chance they would put up STL files.
Well there's actually no reason why GW can't 3D print these old kits as a means of being cheaper and allowing them to print on demand. This way there's no stock/inventory to maintain and no storage needed. When they decide to just drop models, recasters eventually find a way to keep it going. GW can prevent at least that problem by #d printing themselves. And let's be honest, the 3D printed pieces would be cleaner and less problematic then the resins they're stuck with at Forgeworld.
Sometimes it's like GW still thinks its the 1990s.
@@ColonelHoganStalag13 They'd need to redo those hand-sculpted kits in 3D. If they have a copy machine like Perry Brothers they could do it.
Mantic started selling STLs like a week ago
The fact that age of sigmar now no longer exists on forge world, but they’re still pumping out Horus heresy and old world stuff is coming, makes me think that it’s transitioning into something just for those other games. Which makes sense that a website which is a relic of the past is only being used to sustain the games that are set in the past settings.
Forge World is likely transitioning to focusing on “specialist” games, which includes Horus Heresy and Old World, but also Necromunda and Blood Bowl (but, noticeably, NOT the other skirmish games Kill Team, Warcry and Underworlds). It makes a certain amount of sense: those four (and Titanicus?) are all somewhat oldschool games detached from the main 40k and AoS brands, and supposedly Forge World are closely involved in their production, so their models are an integrated part of the game (their rules are in the main rulebooks alongside the plastic units), not an awkward add-on the way they are for 40k. They are pretty much Forge World games with some GW support, not the other way around. Rather than being a relic of the past, I think Forge World is being transitioned into being the second coming of the Fanatic branch, and I’m here for it (Mordheim revival when?)
The FW Greater Daemons are different entities than the GW plastics (they have a specific profile in Monster Arcanum and Imperial Armour). In fact, except the nurgle one which is mostly an exact plastic copy, the FWs are bigger, and the Khorne one is really HUGE.
Isn't the bloodthirster and lord of change like twice as big
No sadness for Bray’arth? i know templars and Salamanders aren’t close friends, but losing a named character in a founding chapter/egion? That hurts, also rip Pedros, ouch. That hursts too
From the Surinous crusade of black templars i offer sorrow at your loss. I loved that model. It's one of the things vulkan was said to have made himself. I didn't want him, but I'm sorry to see the eradication of all castraferrum dreds.
I just wish GW/Citadel would finally get with the program and provide a new Death Korps of Krieg set in plastic.
Also shame I'll never get a chance to assemble and paint Gabriel Angelos, the main-ish character from Dawn of War that basically helped fuel my interest with finding out what this whole 40k thing was in the first place. RIP.
No sir. Sail the high seas and listen to those 3d printers go brrr.
We are here for you sir. Old minis never die.
They already did.
And after that.... no more Death Korps in plastic, please.
@@JayJapanB Kill team kit doesn't count. They need to properly do the range in plastic.
@@wolfehoffmann2697agreed
@@JayJapanB
Why no more?
The salamander's Dread is also the body for a specific character that is that body and the two special arms. He's one of 3 characters we had. Now only two. :(
As a fellow salamander player. It sucks. I’m gonna still run breyarth ashmantle and just make rules for him.
I'd really love to see the old sternguard options released as a non-specific chapter upgrade sprue - perhaps a character upgrade sprue as I really love the options it gave.
RIP Bray'arth Ashmantle. We of the Promethium Cult salute you as you return to the forge. o7
R.I.P to the great unclean one
No, nurgle will make sure he is resurrected
Edit: nevermind, we still got plastic
I dunno about people claiming the old dreadnought is better. I mean comparing the redemptor to the old dreadnought the redemptor really does look way better, kinda like how the primaris marines are just straight up better sculpts. The maine design changes i can see is the redemptor getting elbows and knees, which Personally i think just makes so much more sense, I admit theres a certain charm to just tacking a giant gun to the side of a box but..... it DOES look goofy... and the Redemptor looks more like a they put a coffin into a mech, especially with the coffin litterally visible where the head is on the old model. Personally I think the redemptor looks way more badass, although i admit having one arm without elbows would be cool, i feel like that would probably be a simple enough conversion.
The FW unclean one is incredible, it captures the evil menace at the heart of Nurgle. The plastic one is just cartoony, which I don't like about new Nurgle stuff at all. (The only recent one to capture that is the new horse rider one for AoS imo)
13:01 I actually like the old blood thirster BETTER, but the new one is cool; it definitely needs multiple holes drilled to run baling wire through the flames and to replace the hammer whip
You must be the person with the most pleasurable voice to listen to. I am not even doing anything warhammer or wargaming anymore but watching your videos is so calming and still super interesting to watch.
They recently spoiled a plastic Damocles Command Rhino, so perhaps the 'ha ha missed out on these last time' models were a teaser
The necron tombstalker, acanthrites, and tomb sentinel all need a plastic kit. They would all sell pretty well and are cool kits that add to the canoptek part of the necron army.
Nurgle Daemon Prince is gone as well. Very much regret never getting this (they also got rid of the citadel one) so now there is no Nurgle Dp anymore, and the standard DP kit does not suit Nurgle, at all.
I've still got my first edition Bloodthirster somewhere... loved that one, hated every one of them since. Wish I could be more interested in Nurgle... because Great Unclean Ones always look boss, inspired design for that guy.
I acquired the old bloodthirster from someone and I love it. It is big beefy and has a massive presence on the table. He makes the new bloodthirsters look small. Luckily the person who owned this guys before me magnetized the weapons because otherwise I would have broke the whip like 10 times.
No I don’t think I will, spammala
Forgeworld has almost nothing left! With knights getting plastics you might be slowly getting your wish.
I had a GW employee explain the Choas gods like this...Slaanesh is the one all the other fear. When their devout worship in excess they are also giving Slaanesh power as well.
They all feed each other. Based on the old Liber Chaotica books, the CGs are too large to be singular entities, they're more like storms in the warp around core concepts, so they all overlap and bleed into each other.
All they had to do was upscale the boxnaught, everybody would be happy, but no.
I said this on the Twitter post, I'm sad the Dima is gone cause that was one of the models that got me into tyranids. Im glad I got one but looks like ill have to kitbash some
Maybe new plastic inquisitors now?
My Sisters army needs one.
The forge world great unclean one always caught my eye but never been able to get one. Especially after gw went to regional pricing and Australia’s prices shot up like 40%+ over the UK pricing 😢
i think forge world should really just focus on bits more than full on minis. maybe keep it with special characters that might not sell as much too. but beyond that i think selling stuff that can be essential to some armies *cough* custodies *cough* is bad.
it’d also be dope if they used it to sell alternate sculpts of different characters like those from the games or shows. kinda like what they’re doing for titus as a lieutenant count as. that’d be cool for like making your more generic characters a bit more special like for commissars.
like if they made it where you could go on forge world and be like “hmmmm i wanna make a really cool custom commissar for my new officio prefectus commissar kit so i’ll pick out this plasma pistol and power fist that’s she’ll hold in a different pose than standard and then i’ll pick this alternate leg sculpt and finally i’ll pick this cool unique head sculpt that has her yelling orders”
to me that would be the perfect use of forge world. let us buy alternate bits for different factions with maybe a few specific ones like unique arms/legs/chest/backpacks and such for specific sculpts. then they can justify their high prices despite not as good quality with the more work that’d have to be put into separating bits off their sprues and organized for sale lmao, and then because it’d mostly be individual bits they can just make massive sprues that scrunch as much stuff as they can onto them regardless of faction cause they’ll have a machine/person that separates it and sorts it later making it cheaper to produce molds
The old unclean one was iconic with it's tongue around the sword. I'm kiba mad I never got a hell talon or blade for my Night Lords but the colossal cave squig and squig gobba are the two I'll really miss and kick myself for missing.
And sorry but the greatest model of all time is the 90's night goblin giving his foes the finger sculpted by Kev Adams
Look towards China. I've long given up on Forgeworld, not only because of the prices but most of the guys in the east know more about resin kit manufacturing than Forgeworld.
Was gonna dump on you for bieng negative towards the hobby that makes your channel possable, but i was happily surprized. Just a good run through of old models that are leaving with a good opinion on the choices. Bravo dood
Absolutely gutted, I've had my eye on the keepet of secrets for my Slaanesh army. Not the biggest fan of the current plastic kit. Time to get a 3D printer. Honestly the only greater demon I'm not dsappointed with are the gw lord of change and maybe e great unclean. We need new demons, come on gw gimmie some more daemonettes or something that isn't a Hq choice. And please no more space marines lieutenants
Best we can do is a couple of Space Marine lieutenants, sorry
Losing Tyberos the Red Wake really hurts me. Not having any official rules for my chapter will be awful in 10th; I won't be able to bring my chapter master to the tournaments I go to and it hurts.
After seeing this I am tempted to put one of my old Dreadnaughts on the base of the primaris Dreadnough standing on his chest 😢
NOOOOO
Do it. I plan on running my old castra ferrum dreds even after they are gone.
"The future is now old man"
Got vibe checked at the door!!! I wish I had more money for models!!!!!!!! Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!
Of all the things, they took my bomber! I wanted a squadron. It won’t be long before there are no Necron FW models at all. And sadly since we’re Xenos plastic for us will never come. The Acanthrites remain but not my bomber?
At least long ago I bought one of everything. They can cancel anything they wish. But my dynasty will always have access to these tactical options. Will just have to use them sparingly.
The alternate head for the Great Unclean One shows a lot more personality than the one you looked at! I'd go check it out, a cool cyclops head with gross evil tongue
The newer dreadnoughts are freakin fiugly .I hate 'em , I like my metal heavy too as in dropping the original Bjorn The Fell Handed on my foot and losing a big toenail
Buttermilk Bob is no more? Dang it Gamza
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Well the eastern Europe resin forges go brrrrr.
on the "excess violence is khorne, excess gluttony is nurgle etcetc"
thats ACTUALLY something thats adressed in the lore, the other 3 gods are by far and away most wary (and potentially most afraid) of slaanesh, as she has the potential to be stronger then all of them because of how her domain overlaps with them all
shes the youngest of the 4 (by a LAAAARGE margin) yet is already on par with them, and has by far and away the most influence with those who ARENT dedicated to chaos because everyone suffers from desire and the risk of excess, and because on the surface shes also the most, well , reasonable? in a way. shes about persuit of perfection and desire, the excess of all things, but these things arent necesarily "bad" by themselves, and so its VERY easy for people to fall to slaanesh, far easier then it is for the other gods, ebcause people can fall sort of by accident, jsut by persuing what they want and slowly becoming obsessed with being the best, or getting the best
slaanesh is potentially the strongest of the 4, and the other 3 all sort of work together to keep her down ebcause they are scared of her
T'was my thoughts, thank you
hey my guy.
I think I have the banner from the black templar ven dread lying about. I personally don't like banners
seeing as you said you liked it but are missing it is there some way I can send it to you?
How dumb do you think I am to fall for a trick like that?
You're clearly a bot account.
I prefer older miniatures in general cause they're not disgustingly overdesigned but I guess thats what 3d printing is for ¯\_( ͠° ͟ʖ °͠ )_/¯
Cool, bro, hope she sees this
Probs part a clearing of range to be more focused on big things as it seems was intended and part freeing up capacity for old world
I just handed off my original FW Chappy dread to my best friend and the person who got me into the hobby... I am starting over almost from scratch after not having played for nearly 10 years...I only kept my nids (I have tons of Nids all the way from 2nd edition through 5th, doesn't look like I missed all that many models in the meantime though some are plastic now) and started GSC cause I used to kitbash GSC back in the day as well in a homebrew 3rd edition GSC list (very guard like with better CC, fewer heavy shooting weapons, Limos with chimera stats, and some mild psychic buffs).
I understand stopping the sale of some of these kits, the resins that is. However, ditching even the kits from Warhammer the game and killing the ability for people like Blood Ravens to play their leader is shitty
@@JohnDJ08 Agreed
The stupitist part is that There are now LITERALLY NO AGE OF SIGMAR FORGE WORLD MODELS!
Is this bad or good, I haven't yet decided.
The newer Tzeentch Bird-person design is almost a Final Fantasy summon…..
But hey, that means new malanthrope and demachearon (or however you spell it)
or not 🤷🏻♂️
@@markhanson9508😐
That doesn't mean it at all.
No it doesn’t, don’t get your hopes up!
I recently bought the Nightshroud Bomber and not even had a chance to put it together yet.
I'm not sad that Gabriel Angelos model is leaving. Not only is it a reminder of an absolutely terrible game, it also follows it's bad artstyle. Goddamn sixhead moai statue in terminator armor.
23:49 I always thought this Nid-guy had no balance to it, it looks like it should just fall flat on it's face. Nids are my new favourite as well (since the updated Gaunts, they're gorgeous and have been waiting for them for a lonnnnng-ass time) but I always thought the Dimmy looked weird in it's default pose. I've seen reworked versions that are great though, you just need to reposition the legs a bit.
Someone should make a compilation of all those awesome models and memories weekly intros 🥳
The forge world Keeper of Secrets looks like she would love to rock with the noise marines, they should be both in one kit, Keeper of Secrets twins, one all posh and composed and one rocking/head banging with the noise dudes
GW doing an amazing job with FOMO.
Almost all models in Forge sold-out in less than 2 hours.
Good job GW, Good Job.
Thank the gods of chaos for 3d printing
All of the forgeworld Greater Daemons had names and unique datasheets. They were suped up LoW versions of the normal greater daemons. The LoC and Bloodthirster models in particular are significantly bigger than the GW counterparts. They are going to be Legends now.
That “meow” got me XD well done sir well done.
“I spent so much time looking at there crotch” 💀💀💀💀💀
Jay, you put out three videos a week.
HOW could you possibly have more to say? 😂
they are converting loads of Forgeworld kits into plastic that's probably why, that and the fact they are moving production and warehouse facilities and the Furioso is just the Brutalis Dreadnought really with the Talons etc...
I feel like with a stalactite (Stelacmite?) base for the GW bloodthirster would make him look better. Him jumping out of a bit of fire in an open field seems lame. Make him jumping out of fire in a spiked rock base and have some OSL coming from the fire and he’d look much better.
@3:24 oldschool dreadnoughts are best, i agree. lightning claws!
Exess gluttony is not Nurgle. It's Slaanesh. Wobbly flesh and bulged bellies on Nurgle worshippers and demons come from rotting.
Sounds like boxnauts will also loose rules then. Soooo maybe there are some you could pickup and turn in to something ork
Same for old termis turned in to meganobz
Stop scamming
Nice Bladerunner reference Jay!
The Box Dreadnought has been around since 2nd edition, not 4th.
In 2nd edition, it was a metal model. The plastic one is from 4th.
not the plastic.kit he's referring to. hence box naught. the metal one had been OOP for eons
Tzeentch - Excess Shenanigans
I have the Black Templar dreadnought! Need to think of what to do with it. Any Ideas?
Trade it with Jae if it sounds good to you
I'll be showing my age but I used to have the original Lead bloodthirster, his wings were too heavy to stay on
I liked the Dimachaeron in concept, then I saw it irl dwarfing a trygon. Very busy model and a huge resin guy are not my ideas for a fun time. Also, RIP stone crusher fexes.
Thank the gods for 3D printing. I really don't understand why GW doesn't just sell STLs of models they discontinue.
I always look forward to the variations of how!?!
This is definitely not the first time we've seen a proper culling of Forge World
I think i have the Black Templar dreadnought in mint condition laying around? Interested?
The excess of Slanesh is fantastically easy to define, it's just not possible to express that for toys aimed at kids! 🍆🍑 etc.
You use all of the movie quotes you want to, Jay!
They have the Brutalis Redemptor as your Furioso equivalent.
its a mistake to get rid of the old dred. I'd prefer a scaling up on size.
RIP my Troggoth hag the herd just doesnt feel the same without you
I do not like at all the new Great demon of Slaneesh. The old Forgeworld one was a lot better in my mind.
I have the really old cow face Keeper of Secrets tucked away somewhere...
3DPrinter: "It's free real estate!"
The forgeworld version of daemon of tzeentch is absolutely perfect, The only problem is the price...
I am partial to the little rat with a prosthetic wheel on Thanquol's kit
Nothing better than a morning coffee and some EOB.
This is one of my biggest disagreements with you bud. I love box more than redemptor. I've built both and can say I love the box waaay more. More industrial hands is my thing. I hate the hands of contemptors and redemptor/ invictus. The leviathan has meaty hands. Love em. Just like the ironclad. Love those two. But I guess the hands are what sell me on a dred.
Is the terrain exclusive to this month or it will stay
i think the old one GUO has a better pose. The stomach is on the ground because he is kneeling down the new one is just looks like he doesnt have the ability to walk
I own the greater daemon of slaanesh and it fits perfectly with the juan diaz designs
GW bungled this so hard. They didn't even do a final MTO for iconic models, just nope, gone instantly.
My favorite part of the plastic lord of change is the Knee Mouth. Yes. The knee mouth is real is can hurt you.
Forge world keeper of secrets looks endlessly more slaanesh and better
18:26 what is awesome about this slaanesh guy is that the BDSM/armour bits appear to be coming from under the skin, and skin has been torn away by the armour.