Never Use Cheap Leveling Kits (I-Beam) | 1995 Ford F150

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  • @Unclerusty99
    @Unclerusty99 6 лет назад +37

    You can buy a pair of moog alignment bushings for like $60 to resolve this issue. Just don't go over 2.5" and you're golden. Been there, done that.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  6 лет назад +8

      UncleRusty Yup! I bought that same set. My suspension geometry must be different. I think the previous owner installed f250 coils in the front as a cheap leveling kit. With the adjustable camber bushings, my camber was still a tad positive. The bushing still didn’t have enough adjustment. Since then, I’ve put f150 coils in and everything is back to normal.🤙

    • @davidalejandro8470
      @davidalejandro8470 5 лет назад +6

      I solved mine with the same bushings. Absolutely no problems years later. Caveat: my lift is only 2".

    • @jaycobyhyde2742
      @jaycobyhyde2742 4 года назад +1

      The Minute Masters so a pair of 2006 f250 springs will fit? And lift the front end??? Lol

    • @dustinschmidgall9350
      @dustinschmidgall9350 4 года назад

      @david alejandro do you remember the part #?

    • @alfredneuman6840
      @alfredneuman6840 3 года назад

      If you put a set of Moog 824 springs to simply level out the rake what camber bushings would you need ? 4 degrees ?

  • @jajo6537
    @jajo6537 3 года назад +2

    Thanks man very helpful video. I always told myself do it right the first time so you don't have to deal with bs. Now I know what too look for

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад

      You’re welcome man! 🤙 This is the perfect scenario for “do it right the first time”.

  • @Its_Juan
    @Its_Juan 2 месяца назад +1

    Stevie I need your opinion, so I’m stuck between leveling out my 94 f150 2wd or installing a 2.5 lift kit on it. I don’t want to lift it too hard because I’ve heard it’s not good to mess with your TIB or TTB suspension. Which do you think would be better?

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  2 месяца назад

      So you can’t go wrong either way as long as you do it correctly. Leveling using springs, shocks, and adjustable camber bushings is the easiest and cheapest method to level. I can’t guarantee the camber will be 0 or a tad negative as it should.
      Lifting the front 2.5 inches like I did is more expensive but getting the camber to an ideal is more achievable.
      The hard part with TIB and TTB is getting the camber corrected. It’s possible for sure.

    • @Its_Juan
      @Its_Juan 2 месяца назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters okay so that’s good to know, I’ll go with the 2.5 lift kit then. I’m keeping all my original beams and such, just installing a lift kit on it

  • @nauidiver227
    @nauidiver227 4 года назад +3

    I bought 4 inch lift kit from rough country. The brackets for the I beams are the same for the 6 inch lift. So you have a slot for both 4 inch and 6 inch lift. I had some serious rake and decided to put 2 inch coil lifts to even it out. I dropped bolts to the 6 inch slot and confirmed it was ok to do so with rough country.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      You did the correct thing. Making a lift kit work depends a lot on brackets too.

    • @keltonderkach9601
      @keltonderkach9601 3 года назад

      This is the golden ticket information I was looking for man thx, looking to buy a ranger Shitbox and evenentially get a 4inch rough country and stretch it out a couple inches haha to 6” roughly

    • @nauidiver227
      @nauidiver227 3 года назад

      @@keltonderkach9601 good glad I could help. Truck looks good nice and leveled out. No squat but no rake either

  • @sarahwaverek1239
    @sarahwaverek1239 4 года назад +3

    LOL, you are 100% correct.. and yes, I'm a dummy and living proof that your model and suggestion is proving to be 100% correct. I ordered and had the 2-inch hockey pucks installed in my 1987 Ford Bronco II.. and the camber was 4.8 degrees positive.. dam... I just received the 2-4 inch axel drop brackets from Tuff Country. Now I have to order the radius arm drop brackets too?? drag.. more money... drag... how about pitman arms,, should I order the pitman arms also?? I was hoping just installing the axle brackets and the camber/caster brackets would get me out of the camber problem???

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      Lol I wouldn’t call yourself a dummy yet. Lots of people make this mistake.
      Yup! That what happens and you end up buying all of the other supporting mods. Lifts plan and simple are not cheap if they come with everything to do it properly.
      Now for the pitman arm, you will need a longer one. Any lift over 2 inches needs a pitman arm. Without it your drag link steering is at an awkward angle which causes terrible bump steering. If you are familiar with bump steering, it’s when you hit a bump and the force cause the steering to change when it should. Just imagine the steering wheel turning 180 degrees when you hit a bump.
      As for the others parts, those should fix your camber issue. If you still need to dial the camber in, but adjustable camber bushings. I have them on my truck. They help a lot. I have a video in my playlists on how to install those.

  • @Isaiah134
    @Isaiah134 4 месяца назад +1

    Hey, so I did a 1.5 inch RC leveling springs and I got the adjustable bushings and adjusted it which did nothing but maKe it have more of a positive camber. I thought I did it right but maybe im missing somethig. Mine is a 1995 f150 4wd with a 351w. Help!!!!😅

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 месяца назад

      So the adjustable bushing should work. Have you looked at the adjustment manual paper that comes with the bushings. It kind of gives you a rough idea of what each adjustment does.

    • @bryandouglas739
      @bryandouglas739 8 дней назад

      I have a negative camber with all new stock parts and I have purchased this kit do you think it will greatly affect anything?

  • @travisbarton2140
    @travisbarton2140 4 года назад +3

    Where can I get drop down brackets for the I beams? I have 1999 f250 2wd and bought poor man leveling kit and bought adjustable bushings and my camber is still positive. Please help

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      Travis Barton Good question! I think you need to hunt around and see who will sell the drop brackets from a lift kit. Some bronco/obs F150 suppliers will sell fabricated drop brackets. I’d try bronco graveyard first and then just search the internet. What leveling springs did you use?

    • @travisbarton2140
      @travisbarton2140 4 года назад

      I used a 2.5” block

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад +1

      Travis Barton Gotcha. One of those coil block spacers. Well, I’d still shop around and see who will sell drop brackets separate from a full kit. That’s your best option.

    • @yamahayz228
      @yamahayz228 3 месяца назад

      Did you have any luck finding drop brackets?

  • @NTX_Outdoors
    @NTX_Outdoors 4 года назад +2

    I’ve got a 2005 f250 2wd. It’s got the I-beam suspension so I’m not sure what kit to go with. All of the spacer kits say “does not fit I-beam suspension” is this true?! I can’t seem to find one that specifically does.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      Nice! Those are cool looking f250s. Interesting. I would shop around some more. I’m sure someone makes a lift kit for that year and suspension design. Although, I will say it’s easier finding lift kits for f150s than f250s.

  • @davidalejandro8470
    @davidalejandro8470 5 лет назад +7

    I can see the validity of your argument for big lifts, but I've have my 2" lift for years without any issues whatsoever. Adjustable alignment bushings gave me plenty of camber adjustment. I could probably even have gone to 2.5 and had enough adjustment. How much lift did those F-250 springs give you?

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  5 лет назад +4

      David Alejandro You are correct! If you use the adjustable camber bushings you won’t have a problem. I was pointing out people buying only leveling kits without the adjustable bushing. They have major camber issues. So I never measured for sure but the F250 springs I think give me 1.5 to 2 inch of leveling. However, the ride is much more harsh.

  • @josiahlindsay18
    @josiahlindsay18 Год назад +1

    If it’s always stuck on positive camber you should probably look into ur pivot drop brackets..

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  Год назад +1

      Absolutely

    • @yamahayz228
      @yamahayz228 3 месяца назад

      You have any idea where to find them for a 02?

    • @josiahlindsay18
      @josiahlindsay18 3 месяца назад

      @@yamahayz228 I don’t remember where I got mine. I would just look it up online. I bet you’d find some on rough country, bds, skyjacker, any lift kit companies!

  • @tg2963
    @tg2963 2 года назад +1

    One thing I see people do is they will flip the I beam upside down and turn them around so it's a free lift kit but when you swap sides it puts the brake calipers at the rear but then they have insane camber but I thought that I could just get the drop brackets for the middle to fix the camber but I don't know how well that will work

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  2 года назад

      They sort of sounds like an old hot rod suspension fix. I’m not sure if that would work in this application without some further modification to the beams. You are correct though, you can buy drop brackets for the beams in order to correct the camber. Most people don’t want to get that involved though. They are easy to replace.

  • @matthewTanklinhall5248
    @matthewTanklinhall5248 Год назад +1

    Awesome video! Perfect explanation! Thank you

  • @iuploadvideoz
    @iuploadvideoz 3 года назад +1

    Why can’t I find drop brackets for the ibeams and radius arms

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад

      Like lowering drop brackets or lift drop brackets?

    • @thomas70804
      @thomas70804 3 года назад +1

      www.tuffcountry.com/more-products/axle-pivot-brackets/

  • @seanerickson3159
    @seanerickson3159 3 года назад +2

    I am in desperate need of a leveling kit for my 1995 Ford F-150 xlt 2wd, I have a supreme suspension leveling kit and the ford dealership could not align it because the tires was so bowed in, do you have any suggestions on what leveling kit is good for it and is also not that expensive

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад +1

      So the easiest way to level your truck is with a set of leveling springs and adjustable camber bushings. Only installing leveling springs causes the tops of the wheels to bow out (positive camber). By adding the adjustable camber bushings, you can bring the tops of the wheels back in (neutral camber). I have a video on how to install the adjustable camber bushings and in the video description is the link for the bushings.

    • @seanerickson3159
      @seanerickson3159 3 года назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters do you know where I can buy some

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад

      @@seanerickson3159 Here’s the link for the camber bushings.👇
      amzn.to/3kL9A9d
      As for leveling springs, you can buy whatever 1.5 to 2 inch leveling springs you like.

    • @seanerickson3159
      @seanerickson3159 3 года назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters can you send me the link for the installation of camber bushings

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад +1

      @@seanerickson3159 Here ya go👇
      ruclips.net/video/HpqJtiPtEEs/видео.html

  • @nauidiver227
    @nauidiver227 4 года назад +1

    I installed a 4 inch RC kit. The trucks back end was visibly higher then the front. So I installed 2 inch coil spacer and now it's leveled out. I dropped the I beam to the 6 inch lift hole. And now dealing with negative camber why?!!!

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      Sounds like the 6 inch lift hole is too much. How was the camber before you adjusted the beams down? Have you installed adjustable camber bushings?

    • @nauidiver227
      @nauidiver227 4 года назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters I bought a camber bushing but haven't touched it yet. Still stock.

    • @nauidiver227
      @nauidiver227 4 года назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters sitting in a waiting room now. Getting an alignment

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      @@nauidiver227 Nice! Let me know if that fixes the problem.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      @@nauidiver227 Yeah, it’s an alignment won’t fix the camber than you’ll definitely need it.

  • @elibender3714
    @elibender3714 3 года назад +2

    @The Minute Masters If you have just a 2 inch leveling kit do you need all the drop brackets or would good camber bushings work fine to fix the camber issue

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад

      I’ve heard success with just using the camber bushings. So definitely worth a try.🤙

  • @grandcrayon7366
    @grandcrayon7366 4 года назад +1

    Wouldn't you just be able to add a spring or 2 to your leaf springs and maintain the camber?

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      Grand Crayon For this style of f150 suspension, there are coil springs in the front. The twin I beam suspension doesn’t use leaf springs. The solid axle suspension does though.

    • @grandcrayon7366
      @grandcrayon7366 4 года назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters I have a 86 f250 with this type of axle and was wondering if rebending the springs or even adding a leaf to bend it 2 or 3 inches to level it out would be enough to effect the tires and camber

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      Grand Crayon Gotcha. So if you do add a leaf spring or use shackle extensions to level the front, it will change the camber. You will need adjustable camber bushings/nuts. I have a video in the suspension playlist on how to install those.

  • @halseyknox
    @halseyknox Год назад +2

    Everybody reading this wanting to increase suspension travel on their twin I-beam do yourself a favor and talk to John at Auto-fab....

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  Год назад

      100% He has the most affordable 2wd long travel kit too.

  • @TexasBoyJc
    @TexasBoyJc 3 года назад +1

    Man thank you for this video, I’m struggling bad on finding one for my 2007 F-250 Super Duty 2WD with the Twin I-Beam.
    The one that I’m leaning towards is the ReadyLift 2 Inch Level Kit. It includes fhe aluminum spacer, A zinc-plated steel spring retainer stud extender and washers. Please help or Atleast recommend a decent kit for my truck. Several of the kits found seem to say they won’t work with Twin I-Beam’s. What a pain! Even alignment, can I just trust a local alignment shop to align my truck? Any advice helps! Thank y’all.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад +1

      You’re welcome man!🤙
      So I don’t know any 2” leveling kits off hand. However, when shopping for one here is what you should look for. A.) full coil spring, no spacer. B) some included parts to correct the camber. The suspension I reference is the video corresponds to the I-beam suspensions made from 80-97 F series Fords. Trucks built after that probably have better camber adjustability from the factory. Otherwise, I would research what the process is to correct the camber.
      You can also talk to an alignment shop and see what they recommend. You may only need lifted coil springs and possibly extended shocks. An alignment shop can probably look at your suspension and tell you what you will need for a proper lift and correct the chamber.

    • @TexasBoyJc
      @TexasBoyJc 3 года назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters thank you for the reply! I will certainly try to follow those steps and see where it goes from there. I will definitely post a video once I get everything set up

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад

      @@TexasBoyJc No problem man!🤙 Let me know how it goes!

  • @XD65
    @XD65 3 года назад +2

    Had to learn the hard way. Thanks for the video though.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад

      Sorry to hear that man. You’re welcome!🤙 Thanks for watching!

    • @XD65
      @XD65 3 года назад

      @@TheMinuteMasters tried looking for better leveling kits. Any suggestions

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад +1

      @@XD65 I think you can get away with using a cheap leveling kit and then buying adjustable camber bushing to correct the camber. Otherwise there is a complete leveling kit from Desolate Motorsports. It’s out of stock now but it gives you an idea of what you need. Here’s the link:👇
      desolatemotorsports.com/shop/suspension/front-suspension/desolate-motorsports-2-bronco-80-96-stage-1-lift-kit/

  • @MrBarryWarren
    @MrBarryWarren 5 лет назад +1

    I have a 77 F150 with 31/10.50 r15s on it. I love the stance but sometimes when I cut the wheels sharp it wants to scrub. I thought about giving it a 2.5 inch lift just on the front.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  5 лет назад

      Barry Warren Does it rub on the radius arm?
      If you go that route you need to get adjustable camber bushings to correct the camber.

    • @MrBarryWarren
      @MrBarryWarren 5 лет назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters I have not checked yet on where it's rubbing. It does not do it every time. I have had the front end alignment done on it after I had the tires installed.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  5 лет назад +1

      Barry Warren Gotcha. Definitely take a look. If it doesn’t do it all the time then you could have a few worn ball joints. If it does it often enough, the usual suspect is the wheel. Not enough backspacing causes the wheel to sit in the wheel well too far and close enough to rub on things.

    • @MrBarryWarren
      @MrBarryWarren 5 лет назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters The guy who did the front end alignment told me that all parts looked good on the front end.
      I could try running some spacers on the front. I had them on my 1999 Dodge Ram without any problems. I know a lot of people don't like them.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  5 лет назад +1

      Barry Warren Ok that’s good!
      Yeah that’s what you will have to do. People don’t like spacers because people don’t torque them properly or check them regularly. Plus they use too thick of a spacer. 1” or less will be fine.

  • @Alphawolf2325
    @Alphawolf2325 3 года назад +1

    I'm assuming that 500 buck rough country leveling kit is what defines a good one haha. Not in a rush to do level it, but I have thought about it.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  3 года назад

      If it comes with drop brackets or bushings, then the kit is designed to correct the camber.

  • @JoseGarcia-pd5bo
    @JoseGarcia-pd5bo 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for pointing that out!

  • @chriswassil
    @chriswassil 5 лет назад +1

    Does Supreme make a decent Leveling Kit.. I was thinking of purchasing the one w the four shocks, 2 blocks n 2 torsion keys??

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  5 лет назад

      chris wassil So I assume you are talking about a ford leveling kit unless you have an explorer. I’m not too familiar with Supreme. However if it’s a Chevy you are talking about, then that kit sounds decent. Torsion keys are pretty standard and work well. I’d just get the alignment checked out afterwards. Blocks is an economy way to lift the rear. The only down to blocks is they can cause axle wrap. Blocks under 2 inches probably wouldn’t be a problem though.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  5 лет назад

      You can also do a shackle lift in the rear instead of blocks.

    • @chriswassil
      @chriswassil 5 лет назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters it's a 2000 Chevy Tahoe

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  5 лет назад

      chris wassil Gotcha! Yeah that kit will be perfect for a Tahoe. Make sure the blocks come with new U bolts and hardware. It’s always recommend to change them.

    • @chriswassil
      @chriswassil 5 лет назад +1

      @@TheMinuteMasters Great ty again!!👌

  • @RollingRigTraction
    @RollingRigTraction 4 года назад +1

    No F250's come with front coil springs with a TTB.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  4 года назад

      I believe a few did in the 90s. Otherwise it’s all straight axle.

    • @Poorboyzgarage447
      @Poorboyzgarage447 3 года назад

      Yes they did the 2wd f250s to this day use twin i beam and some in the 90s did

  • @aceclassic8830
    @aceclassic8830 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this video, good point.

  • @timturk6003
    @timturk6003 5 лет назад +1

    You could just use a differential drop kit

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  5 лет назад

      T Turk I know what you mean man. But this is more for 2wd. trucks and on this year the camber is corrected with an adjustable camber bushing. A 4wd truck would definitely need a differential drop kit to correct for the driveline angle.

  • @codystelzer5700
    @codystelzer5700 6 лет назад +2

    I have been doing alot of searching and i cant seem to find an actual kit outside of a $1500.00 kit for my dads 1978 f150. This is my first time experiancing the I beam suspension system, although i am a novice mechanic with access to a fully equipped shop and lift. Im hoping i may be able to fab up some 2-4 inch brackets for the radial arms and i beam mounts before doing shocks. But this beggs the question.... why doesnt someone already offer these brackets.... is seems so simple

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  6 лет назад +1

      Cody Stelzer That’s why so many people swap I beam suspensions to solid axle. Solid axle is just easier for people to understand and there are plenty of parts. Rough country makes a 2.5” lift kit for my year truck. Not sure if they make older kits. Otherwise, you’re right. It’s so simple. Why doesn’t anyone do anything about it.

    • @laxplaya2323
      @laxplaya2323 5 лет назад +1

      Darin at Autofab.com is very knowledgeable in lifting 70s fords with i beams.

  • @jameshudson672
    @jameshudson672 6 лет назад +2

    What kit do you recommend for a 1993 f350 2wd dually I beam suspension?

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  6 лет назад

      James Hudson Man that’s a tough one. I did a quick google search and didn’t find much. Assuming that you have leaf springs up front, I found only one add a leaf style kit by Tuff Country. If you were to go to a 4 inch lift, then you can find stuff by names like Rough Country. How many inches are you trying to level out?

    • @nickpayne2952
      @nickpayne2952 5 лет назад +2

      Any one this guy is a comeplete idiot with no proper edjucation on any thing ive been preforming alighments on race cars mud trucks and daily drivers if your alighment shop has any brains theyll know to messure tour camber caster and they make aligment bushings to get it back in to spec, rock auto selss the bushings theres diffrent degress you can get most good aligment shops have them in stock, and the fact that this moron said he googled something proves hes just a moron and doesnt know his asshole from a hole in the ground

    • @musicjunkie2k
      @musicjunkie2k 5 лет назад

      @@nickpayne2952 you're a troll. Ignore this guy. I put a 2" lift on my 03 F250 2wd and new coils. My camber is at best with these moog bushings +3.5. Thats with a stock spring size and 2" puck. The only way to correct it is with an axle pivot extender kit and/or radius arm extender drop kit. All for a $30 2" pick kit. No thanks. I'm removing the puck. If you have to shame or name call, you clearly have no ammo. GO AWAY.

    • @DieselPhantom
      @DieselPhantom 3 года назад

      @@TheMinuteMasters I beam suspensions do not have leaf springs

  • @ApolloTheDerg
    @ApolloTheDerg 5 лет назад +2

    Dana 60 time for my 96 F250 it looks like haha.

  • @ernestt881
    @ernestt881 4 года назад +1

    thanks man!!!!!!!

  • @MarioHernandez-zk7dw
    @MarioHernandez-zk7dw 3 года назад +1

    2:29 😂😂

  • @shanesmith5603
    @shanesmith5603 Год назад +1

    Anybody w any mechanical know how can make it work. I am a mold maker, so your video is moot to me. Nice try tho.

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  Год назад

      Sure, adjustable camber bushings and a proper lift kit will correct any issue.

  • @dodgeramsport01
    @dodgeramsport01 5 лет назад +2

    Why you guys feel the need to raise the front to the same as the back? Ford raised the back higher than the front for a reason!

    • @TheMinuteMasters
      @TheMinuteMasters  5 лет назад +1

      Dodge Ram 01 I feel ya man. However, one practical reason for leveling kit up front is for plowing.

    • @chuckyredrum403
      @chuckyredrum403 5 лет назад +1

      Stfu

    • @DJCuhhhstin956
      @DJCuhhhstin956 5 лет назад +2

      Because it looks like shit, its just as bad as those douche bags that drop the back and jack up the front. Whats wrong with wanting some symetery in your ride height?

    • @dodgeramsport01
      @dodgeramsport01 5 лет назад +1

      @@DJCuhhhstin956 because when you have a load in the back it levels out instead of sagging and making for a unsafe drive!

    • @DJCuhhhstin956
      @DJCuhhhstin956 5 лет назад +2

      @@dodgeramsport01 for those who are constantly riding around with a load on the back, like a career hot shotter for example, then yes, it would make sense to leave it factory, but for the rest of us who just like to off road or don't pull a 5th wheel at all, and I guarantee you its an extremely high number of us, its not necessary, it really isn't.