Disney's High-Speed Railroad Stop That Never Happened
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025
- In 2003 Disney played a game of chicken with the state of Florida and Universal Studios that had billions of dollars on the line. Disney won and then in 2004 they lost along with everyone else.
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Orlando Business Journal
“Brightline partners with Virgin Group as it plans expansion into Orlando” (Nov 16 2018)
“Brightline wins key approval for Tampa-to-Orlando intercity passenger rail” (Nov 28 2018)
The Orlando Sentinel
“Which rail route?” (Oct 26 2003)
“Direct-to-Disney rail line chosen” (Oct 28 2003)
Tallahassee Democrat
“Disney in bullet train battle” (Jun 24 2003)
Florida Today
“Train may survive voter backlash” (Dec 31 2004)
There was a lot going on when it came to the Florida elections in the year 2000 so understandably this wasn’t making headline news. However a referendum had passed that election night that amended the state constitution with a mandate to build a high-speed rail system for Florida. Bullet trains were pretty appealing at the time. Over the following few years the newly created Florida High Speed Rail Authority looked at a Tampa-Orlando connection as their first phase, with plans to finish it by 2009. That involved coming up with a route between the two cities, and this is where the trouble began.
The initial route, known as the Bee-Line Route, was planned to start at Orlando International Airport and make stops at the Orlando Convention Center, potentially Universal Studios and Seaworld, and then Walt Disney World, before continuing on to Lakeland and Tampa.
Disney, well, they didn’t like that idea, and for good reason. The route would be ferrying tourists and passengers directly to some of their biggest competitors before them. It also made it easier for guests to leave Disney property and go spend their money elsewhere. Disney decided to instead propose an alternative route if the state wanted their cooperation. The Greeneway Route, as it was called, also started at Orlando International Airport. However it then went south, bypassing all those pesky competitors and going directly to Walt Disney World, before continuing on to Tampa.
It was entirely self-serving, but then again, that was their job. Just as Universal and Seaworld backed the Bee-Line Route because it benefited their bottom line, Disney backed the Greeneway route because it benefited theirs.
So what happened? Where’s our high-speed rail stop and why is Magical Express still around? Well as all of this drama played out, Governor at the time was against all of it. He argued that the state couldn’t handle the financial burden that a state-wide high-speed rail system would bring. With the 2004 elections right around the corner, he made an active push to repeal the amendment mandating the system, and guess who threw in a few bucks to promote the repeal when election season rolled around? Universal and Seaworld. They weren’t getting their train stops, so why should anyone else?
The amendment would successfully be repealed that November, and while that didn’t formally end the Florida High Speed Rail Authority, it was a major symbolic roadblock. They pledged to keep working on a high-speed rail system but without the state funding they’d need and without a deadline looming, it just never happened.
Over the following years there would be other attempts at high-speed rail proposals, and even just recently we saw news of a possible Disney World stop with Virgin Trains USA looking to expand from West Palm Beach to Orlando and Tampa.
Will we eventually get a Walt Disney World rail stop? Who knows? But if history shows us anything, it’s that Disney is a heavyweight in the Central Florida region, and so if we do get one, it’ll probably be on their terms.
I'm still living in my pipedream of having an expanded monorail. This would be close if it ever came true.
This same fight is going on now over Brightline. But Disney has already announced that they're axing the Magical Express. Did they just damage their own leverage?
Saw this come up today as Walt Disney World have agreed and approved a station stop extension with Brightline
In Tokyo the trail will take you right onto park proerty, the train even plays a little Disney jingle and everything. From there you just transfer to Disney's monorail and it'll take you to either of the two parks. It's really nice.
*Aw man!* would have been awesome!
So Disney got rid of their leverage in Magical Express, and now Brightline is no longer planning a stop on Disney property.
Nice rob! Apparently Disney’s currently in talks with the Florida east coast railroad to extend the newly built brightline high speed service from Orlando to Tampa with a stop on WDW property.
Brightline is now part of Virgin Rail. So you're all talking about the same thing.
cookode Virgin Trains USA is owned by virgin and Florida east coast industries not FEC, FEC is owner by Grupó Mexico
@@ethanstein42 It was sold a few years before, when the brightline was already under construction.
I really want that. I would love a ride from my brightline station to disney. I really dont like the uncomfortable car rides there, i would love a large train ride there with a bathroom, walking room, stretching room, reclining seats, etc.
BTW Virgin Group is no longer associated with Beightline. I hope Covid won’t stop their future expansions.
I’d think the state could threaten to use eminent domain to make whatever rail route they wanted. Granted, Disney could then threaten to tie things up in litigation forever.
Eminent domain would be too effective for the State of -Dis- Florida
It reminds me of the high speed trains that do stop at a station extremely close to Disneyland Paris. It always seemed odd to me because it's so outside the city.
Hey Rob, I love your videos. I want to add, as someone who studies the traffic and infrastructure of Orlando constantly, you're right Disney did agree to put funds up to build their own station. The word here in Orlando is that an "I-4 train will never happen because Disney won't let it." That's absolutely not true (it'll never happen because Florida - the state gov - isn't a fan of public funded infrastructure; think tolls highways, brightline, etc).
Jeb Bush (and later Rick Scott) had funding for these projects killed. It was less about the initial funds, rather than the maintenance and operation costs. With most projects like this, the Federal government pays for around half, the state about a third, and the local counties and cities about a sixth. This is how the SunRail in Orlando was built. The problem comes usually five to tens years after opening, when the federal government is done paying for the project and the state and localities pay for it.
That's why Scott denied funding in 2011. It's because he would have the state required to maintain it. With infrastructure and transportation projects, the federal government is like a drug dealer. Gives you the money for free and hooks you on it, and then you're stuck paying for a project. Public services never stay afloat because the localities can't afford to keep it afloat.
Brightline (Virgin Trains, USA) won't do it... at least any time soon. Private companies have the opposite problem. The initial funding (assuming it's privately gathered from investors like Brightline's is, and not from the gov't), is too much to handle. The train then can't stay afloat because prices are too high trying to maintain and pay back the initial cost, plus interest. It works on existing track, but if they have to build new track, it's almost impossible as the company has to spend years doing land surveys, EPA reports, SEC documentation, etc; then comes the actual construction.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for trains, but these are the underlying reasons why we don't have trains down here in Orlando. Keep up the good work!
ExperienceItStudios 2021 to 2022 the Orlando expansion will open
ArtieMcD except that building endless new highways never pay for themselves directly and only now are new highways having tolls. I think Florida is a perfect place for fed and state government funded rail because of all the tourists that go there from all over the world. They need to connect all the major airports and cities and of course the major tourist destinations. It’s not about whether all state residents in all the counties will use the system. It’s about the state investing in the future and keeping the tourists in the state.
I think having the train run along the East coast is great for those cities along the route. They could have easily run the rail from Miami to Orlando using existing track or row. Now, people might actually someday get off in the cocoa beach area once they build attractive destinations. Besides KSC.
As a side note, Brightline is privately operated and (mostly) privately funded.
I live in Lakeland and I am SO GLAD this did not happen!
But I still love your Channel!!
Track for the close to high speed train are being laid. They exist from Miami to Coco Beach and the rail bed is being prepared along FL 528 to Orlando Airport. In 3 or 4 years it could be going to Disney Springs and onto Tampa
First time I've heard of this, good job! Seems like the Virgin Trains USA stop is going to happen - investors wouldn't pass up the opportunity.
American Rail Club it’s called brightline
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Awesome video! It will probably need a 2nd part in July when the route of the Brightline extension to Tampa will be finally decided!
There's talk down here in Florida of a new High-Speed rail the could have a Disney stop.
I always wondered what became of the high speed rail plan. Thanks for an excellent piece providing that answer.
This is the first time hearing about this proposal. I finally get to justify saying "blame bush!".
Just kidding. :)
Trust me...the “High Speed rail” we were promised here in California has been NOTHING but a money losing boondoggle! We were promised it would cost “no more than $17 billion” and be done by 2017...It’s now $77 billion, MAYBE...AND will be done in 2030 MAYBE!...can’t imagine this would’ve been ANY DIFFERENT!
Well a lot of that cost is due to overregulation due to US law and the need to buy the pieces of land the tracks, viaducts and more is gonna be on. Virgin trains in Florida is during really well though. As of right now they only run on freight rail tracks with a somewhat limited speed however their extension to Orlando and their new expansion plan with a Orlando Tampa via Disney route is also gonna be mostly dedicated high speed track.
What? No where was it ever going to be completed by 2017. Nor has that much been spent. Last I heard the project was killed by the new gov.
DrDewott California not building decent passenger rail between its major cities will ensure that those places in between will not enjoy the economic benefits the larger cities have enjoyed and will enjoy. Home prices will continue to rise, jobs will be created and those outside the cities will see none of it. Those in the cities will also be trapped spending far more on housing than they should. This applies to every region where capital is concentrated in cities with poor access to surrounding areas.
B bo That’s why Bernie Sanders is are best choice for president.
I would LOVE me some train time to Disney... Thanks for sharing
Same! No more uncomfortable car rides!
It kinda irritated me that the green line route wasn't green...
Great job Rob! Another new find told with aplomb.
4:36 ok this was wierd! I'm watching a Video about a High-speed Railroad in Florida and SUDDENLY! There is a Video of a Railroad station right next to me in Switzerland 😅😂 Stock-Footage rocks! 😂
never knew about this! thanks rob :))
I lived in the Tampa area for 7 years and was a WDW AP for the last 4 of them. I recall hearing about talks for such a route and thinking how nice it would be to have that as an option. The drive to and from is only about an hour, but it would have been great not to have to worry about it after a long day at the parks!
Great video Rob, I had no idea the idea was cancelled, I thought it just went a bit quiet. Cheers buddy
I remember I was so disappointed when it was announced the high-speed train wasn’t happening in Florida. My family is all for it!!!
I sure hope so! That would be amazing!!! Thanks for the info :)
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They've had rail systems that travel from South Florida to Orlando, and they didn't catch on. Brightline travels from WPB to Miami, but their trains as so fast, people are dying, either from suicide or not hearing the train coming. They would need to elevate the train above the ground to reduce the death toll. According to the Sun Sentinel, 10 people have been killed by Brightline trains since the service started, and there was another a few days ago. Tampa to Orlando may be a good route, but going from the Miami area doesn't seem that big. The problem is, one must park their car at the train station and leave it there (unless a family wants to take the bus or Uber to the station). At this point, it's easier to drive, or rent a car.
Well still this is what people do. And with the cars, blame that on the absolute lack of efficienct public transport in the US overall. Something Brightline/Virgin is working on changing. And in terms of the deaths there are a number of reasons why. First of all the countless level crossings. Secondly the drivers and pedestrians themselves. Now I don't know about you but if they can't hear the level crossing nor the train or it's horn then these people really have problems tbh. Honestly if I had anything to say it's just natural selection, eliminating those not fit for society.
PastTime777 if you fly in you could get from the airport to Disney world without renting a car
I have a weird feeling that Brightline (Virgin Trains USA) will eventually continue to Tampa, FL one day. It'll just take some time.
Virgin bought them a few months ago, and they intend to extend it.
Y is that a wierd feeling?
Nothing weird about it. You might live long enough to see it happen.
Thank you for another fascinating episode!
Another solid video Rob! Thanks for sharing!
If I could see a third layout - Skip the resorts entirely, and have Disney move their bus service to the nearest stop. Universal and SeaWorld might be able to foot the bill for their own bus ferrying as well. Bear in mind that this would require Disney cooperating with this change. That said, a shorter trip both ways could be argued to save them millions a year on gas and diesel.
Very informative video! Thank you so much Rob. I learn so much from you!
I've rode on the Brightline train a couple of times and I'm totally fine with taking it from miami right to Disney.
Wow! That is quite shocking, and incredible the power that a company like disney has!
Love all your informative videos!
This kinda stuff is why I'm subscribed
I lived in Orlando and now Lakeland (and don't drive) so this would've been awesome. I would've been able to make much more use of my last seasonal pass a couple years ago. Dang it!
Where do you get all your videos of Disney from? It’s so cool to see all the high-quality footage of rides and places around the parks. Not to mention all the older 4:3 footage?
That would be awesome if Disney world had a railway system that would run all the way from Orlando airport to all of the parks. I do hope that happens one day too. I just love trains.
Cool video!
France: laughs in TGV.
Damnit. I can't think of any Disney characters based near any of the London terminals. Because otherwise I think they would have accepted a service from the Magic Kingdom to (say) Euston even if it had to stop at Seaworld and Universal. Especially if Virgin Trains could run it (say the 18:30 from Euston could call at Warrington Bank Quay, Wigan North Western, Preston, Lancaster, Carlisle, Gasgow Central, Inverness and stations to Jacksonville, Orlando, WDW and Tampa)?
Maybe they could have run the B route, but run alternate trains to Universal, Seaworld and Disney, then in all cases on to Tampa? So it would still have been hard to use it to get from WDW to Universal?
I know you're a busy man, but it would be interesting to see a video on Disney's *millennium village* in Epcot. Don't really know much about it; all I know was that it happened.
Rob...there is a new train system thats coming from Miami to Orlando. It was approved and is happening
Right, but that's to Orlando itself (specifically MCO). The talk of a specific Walt Disney World stop is still very much just talk right now.
I heard they have the agreement for Tampa and are talking to Disney about getting a stop in Disney itself or right by it
@@MiguelCruz-zj9rh that would be cool I live north of Tampa and would s ac ve me gas
Privatized gains, socialized losses.
This is what happens when corporations hold sway over legislatures so that public funds and investments benefit the highest bidder, not the broader economic interests of the people as a whole. Corporate and private "donors" should not be the primary decider as to what happens to public infrastructure.
Europe and Asia enjoy 180+mph trains as a transportation option to driving and flying and we get corporate feudalism, crumbling infrastructure, and economic stagnation.
Money must be removed from politics. People may be the ones who vote but the candidates and agendas are bought and paid for.
Florida's low tax rates, which restricts public projects, require pandering to external sources of funding. Infrastructure isn't a profit center, it's an investment which requires constant maintenance. Roads cost more per mile and passenger to build and maintain but no one demands them to "turn a profit", but somehow trains do. That is why the US continues to fall behind the rest of the world in effective and energy-efficient transportation options.
Disney technically had no holds over the government in the situation. The fact was that the rail system would have to stop off property (which is fair- everyone can and should get to decide how to utilize their land) and if Disney didn't like where it went they just wouldn't provide service to the station.
@@MatecaCorp How noble of them to reject access to a publicly-funded transportation mode.
Actually, because of a bit of finagling back in the day, Disney essentially owns a city: the Reedy Creek Improvement District.
lohphat
I agree. Florida has had a history of failing to make the right investments and private companies have had excessive influence over state policy.
*eye roll*
I’ve been saying for years we need a train system similar to the sky train in Vancouver Canada.
I get the feeling that the 2003 version of Florida Rail would have been like Amtrak on steroids... All the charm of a government project. Brightline/Virgin is looking much better, with private funding, and trainsets that are better suited to the route. The train station at the Orlando airport is already built, and the line to Tampa follows the Greenline route to a Disney station. No Convention Center/Universal stops. So, I'm hopeful.
4:52 talk about sweet revenge
Disney deserved every drop of it and more
Ahhhhh! Disney and their love affair with trains (sigh!!) LOL
This isn't the first time. They stood in the way of a fully funded monorail from the airport, when they offered a location for a station in what is now Celebration. The High Speed Rail was initially to go down the center of I-4 from downtown Orlando to Tampa. Brightline/Virgin is still working on a line from OIA to Miami and possibly extending to I-Drive.
This is why in sane countries the government can force private owners to sell their land for the greater good. It's not easy in a democracy and it takes time, but a company like Disney wouldn't be able to stop such a project.
@@NeoDerGrose Granted this didn't happen in Florida but funny how the state used eminent domain to get rid of homeowners and renters so they could build highways and Wal-Marts but when it comes time to do battle with Disney they just roll over. how pathetic.
If anyone can make the bullet train work in the USA with flawless magic, it’s gotta be Disney
Every time I have to drive on I4 from Tampa to Orlando, I curse (mostly) Rick Scott for the most recent version of it killed, where Florida HAD THE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR IT and he killed it.
I can honestly say I don't think I remember ever hearing about this version of it so I'll add Jeb to my list of people to curse the next time I have to drive on I4, especially since I almost always make that drive to go to Disney.
Unfortunately, the virgin version of it is way too expensive for people to actually use it so we'll see what happens there.
This should have been completed years ago.
I love the EMD F unit as the thumbnail 😂😂😂
Hmmm. FL failed to build a high speed rail line? Sound familiar? *coughcough* CA...
Hey Rob, I am going to Disney's Animal Kingdom soon and I was wondering if you concidered it to be a full day park? Do you think there are enough things to do there.
With Pandora and the waits those attractions carries, I think it's just about at full-day park status.
If you do get one it will be millions of dollars over budget before any building even occurs. And will never recoup it's cost of operations with rider tickets
You mean billions
Thanks.
Another thing, Lakeland. If the greeneway or bee-line was chosen, they would have to cross CSX tracks and the CSX most likely will prioritize there trains and then, the whole Amtrak situation, operating on other tracks and priorities. So yeah!
They will build a bridge.
They want to expand the brightline to go from Ft Lauderdale-WPB to Orlando and then Tampa but local governments (looking at you Martin County) don't want a high speed train because of the noise. So they were in talks of quiet zones and slower zones. It's just going to be a train at this point and with all the stops I don't see how it is faster than driving. More eco probably. I'm still interested in it.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Couldn't the state use eminent domain to build a Bee LIne stop at Disney?
Yes, the project would take longer because of lawsuits, but that's what they should have threatened to do
I used to work for San Diego's LRV system. These things are so heavily taxpayer subsidized that the return never justifies the gain. Despite that, there's always pipe dreams of overpriced bullet trains that simply are needed. NEED and WANT aren't the same thing, people need to understand that and get past it.
No offense to any Americans, but looking at your transport infrastructure from Europe is like taking a time machine back to the 1950s over here.
The continents aren't comparable. I don't think enough European critics understand the implications of the geography and lower overall density.
Could you do a video on the battle for Harry Potter between Disney and Universal
Two years later and the Virgin/Brightline has just made an agreement for rail from Orlando to Disney Springs to follow the “Greenway” and be done about 2024.
Meanwhile every Disney park outside the USA has a train and/or metro station.
I'm sad there isn't one now. Dangit bush
You support corporate handouts?
I'm from Lakeland! Any other Floridians?
Lakeland too
Jennifer Amos parkland
Disney and trains perfect
this aged like fine wine
Aww, come on, that would be amazing! It would even fulfill walt's dream of a transportation connection to Disney World. Dammit Bush
Bush saved the state from a massive bundle of corporate welfare.
AWWW MAN THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where's the high-speed rail stop?
Coming to Orlando thanks to Virgin Trains USA/Brightline.
I don't really understand this? The only use for such a rail wouldn't be just the amusement parks but city to city travelers and obviously stops at the shopping/ hotel districts(International drive) and downtown should have been all in the proposal, as surely most people don't solely go straight to and from Disney world from the airport right? Also as already pointed out Disney already had airport busses to cover that scenario. Surely having the route with an exclusive stop for Disney world would make it more privatized than anything else and not necessarily made the railway profitable.
While we're at it was the other end going to end, Tampa Airport, Downtown, Busch Gardens?
Finally.. a mention for SeaWorld without making a gag about abuse.
I wish I could live at Disneyland!
I wonder if the fallout of 9/11 helped killed this idea. Holiday peak times might've been bigger than previous years, but off peak was dead for all FL theme parks. You didn't need a fast pass for anything, everything was walk on. The down side is that many places, like universal, closed super early, like 6pm. Shows like Fantasmic were only on certain days, but Universal forced guests to wait a full hour for shows like Twister and Poseidon so they would have larger groups, with special effects shut off completely
here comes the bright line~
seems like a great thing to have. I'd have two stations at Disney to make it worth. But the US should really have speed rails for some travels. The era of all cars and planes really needs to end. More roads means more cars.
The train was going to be a maglev but Disney didn't like the stop at Universal.
what camera do you use?
Living in Tampa if Florida built a bullet train from Tampa too WDW I'd love it! I-4 would be much less crowded
This was a mistake, it would have gotten all those buses off the roads. I'm all for anything that gets buses and Taxi's the fuck off I-4 and the surrounding roads.
This is taken from the Brightline website ""Our Orlando station is nearly complete, but there is much left to do, including laying more than 170 miles of new track. Construction to Orlando is expected to take approximately three years, and we plan to start this year. Stay tuned for updates." It's happening already. I've taken Brightline from Fort lauderdale to Miami and it's great. Your luggage or purse is scanned simliar to the airport and everything is very organized and clean. If your luggage is a certain size you can check it for free and you pick it up at your stop. Not sure how this will work longer distances. Looking forward to taking the train to Orlando when it opens. There are several articles written about this and I've heard about it on the news because I live in South Florida.
Right, but the Orlando stop at MCO is separate from the literal Walt Disney World stop, which is still very much up in the air and a big "if".
@@MidwaytoMainStreet I see what you are saying. I'm just happy there will be another train other than Amtrak because I hate driving on turnpike. It's a huge difference from taking Amtrak with delays than it will be with Brightline. There is also supposed to be a plans for Brightline from Orlando to Tampa. Any train tracks other than Amtrak is a huge improvement. :)
@@MidwaytoMainStreet This article may interest you. www.orlandosentinel.com/news/transportation/os-cfb-brightline-virgin-outlook-20190103-story.html In the article it says " Also in the offing is Brightline’s interest in what O’Malley described for Central Florida officials as a station in “somewhere in the theme-park area.”
Brightline/Vergin will get the track in... If nothing else Branson is all about publicity and splash, and that will come from the stops at Disney and so on...
Sucks this didn't happen. Could have made a surge in the Railroad system that we need in general. Would have been awesome if it one day extended all the way to I95, going all the way to NYC. Take a bullet train that would take a few hours to ride.. I know.. a pipe dream
And now we have brightline
Well, hooray for Jeb Bush (not something I would normally say). High speed rail is just a string of boondoggles across the country that never live up to their own hype. This route might - just might - have been profitable between MCO and WDW, but the lack of real demand from WDW to Tampa would have dragged it down into the money pit. Mass transit by rail always sounds good, but it never works unless the population density is very high or the population is too poor to afford reliable automobiles.
Every US passenger rail line is a failure except DC to New York. So it was a good thing it never happened
I think disney should have built their own railroad line and have passenger trains and make it feels like the 1940s like on the 20th century limited
That’s really annoying. Disney has enough brand clout to counter any benefits Universal might get by “coming first” on a train map. Enough people go to both parks anyway. Plenty of people fly into Tampa to visit the parks. Who the hell’s gonna fly the family to Orlando, and think “well, the kids had their heart set on Disney but ooh! Sea World is moderately easier to get to, so let’s just go there!” Jeb’s family made their money from Big Oil so it’s sketchy that way too... I mean, the whole thing is just petty and it screwed over the whole state.
Jeb!
I think jeb was right here, look at california
I wouldn’t have said that Disney didn’t care about a high speed route from Tampa. I think any speed train from Tampa and its airport directly to Disney was something they’d care about. I’m surprised Disney didn’t apply pressure to Jeb to keep the project on track.
The economic benefits of passenger rail aren’t always easy to see, or even if they are a politician won’t be in office long enough to see the benefits. So China will keep on building and growing and moving millions of people into the middle class and America will keep cutting taxes, building nothing, and will continue to see millions earn less than their parents. NYC will surely lose companies and people the longer it refuses to expand and improve its 100 year old system. The very system that allowed the city become what it is today. Problem is the city has reached the limits of its opportunities. Not building a second tunnel and using the one and only one it has from 1912 is insanity at its finest. Chris Christie killed the tunnel for political gain, then trump came along. And Christie’s past attack on a trump relative while he was AG caught up with him. Meanwhile the people of Nj and NY will continue to suffer. Long islanders though will soon benefit from a similar project that will bring Long Island trains under grand central for the first time.
B bo But, but, Bernie Sanders will make the US the most corrupt country in the world and have an economy like Venezuela.
So many people are afraid of Social democracy and think that it equals communism.
LOL I SEE YOU GEORGE W. BUSH
You've come a long way since FAA.
Just buy some historic stock from a preserved railroad anywhere near and give the people two reasons to ride the trains 4Head
Wait WHAT!?