The Two Times Disney World Almost Lost Their Powers
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2019
- Disney World is within the Reedy Creek Improvement District, a governing jurisdiction that was created for Disney and one that is effectively controlled by Disney. Today I want to talk about the two times Disney came closest to losing their RCID powers. So buckle up and get ready, because we’re about to dive into the most thrilling and exciting form of history: government bureaucracy!
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📰Sources
The Orlando Sentinel
“Would Disney power go with a sale?” (Apr 23 1984)
“Orange leaders cautious on cutting Disney powers” (Sep 20 1984)
“Making use of the land Walt bought” (Nov 04 1984)
“Power to govern hangs in balance” (Feb 23 2004)
“Lawmaker wants Reedy Creek review” (Mar 26 2004)
“State to review Disney’s domain” (Apr 13 2004)
“Disney powers could be cut, panel says” (Dec 14 2004)
Tampa Bay Times
Disney: Its future is in its land (Jun 24 1984)
Lake Buena Vista stands in the shadow of its mammoth neighbor (Jun 24 1984)
Tallahassee Democrat
“Reviewing Disney’s powers” (Dec 15 2004)
i was 4 minutes in until i realized you werent talking about a power outage...
I just realized it says powers, not power. thank you for making me look again.
I don't blame the Florida Government for being anxious! I can't imagine Comcast with that kind of power!!!!
You had me at *government bureaucracy* 😏
He had everyone with those two words
We don’t talk about those times
Is that *the* Michael of Disney?
😂
It’s the big cheese.
Wow big dawg in the house
The two times Disney lost the infinity IP gauntlet
Company towns like this actually used to be very common in the United States, often centered around a factory or a mine rather than a resort, but have disappeared over time. I'd be curious to know if Reedy Creek is the largest still in operation and, if not, how it stacks up.
There are actually *two* "cities" in the RCID: Lake Buena Vista (where Disney Springs and resort HQ are) and Bay Lake (where all of the theme parks are). The hotels, waterparks, etc. are divided up between the two. I always wondered why Disney incorporated their land as two cities instead of one, and I've never seen a clear answer. Might have had something to do with the original EPCOT project but I'm not sure.
And the thing not mentioned in the video is after comcast gave up on Walt Disney. Comcast did buy NBC/Universal which owned the Universal Studio theme parks. So Comcast in the end got their own major theme park.
Kabletown buys Sheinhardt Wigs/NBC!
This time last year you had a video on Big Red - the Disney Cruise predecessor and that video won me a quiz on the cruise ship I had the week after. This year, one year later, I have a cruise next week, what do you reckon this'll win me another quiz? ahahaha
I really can't imagine Disney being bought by another company
Okay, I’m gonna be honest, I learn a lot about Disney just from watching Rob’s videos. I just wanna say, thanks for making these rob, you are one of the only reasons I know so much about Disney.
I love how this channel tells me about stuff I didn’t even know existed - Thank you!
I’m always amazed how you can take such a boring topics, like government bureaucracy and take overs, and make it super interesting. You should become a teacher. Yeah I know it doesn’t pay well but if you can make government interesting you have a gift.
Stacey Gregory true! It sucks teachers don’t get paid enough but as an aspiring teacher, I’d say the joy of helping the generations of the future makes up for it.
Making an 8 minute video for entertainment purposes is a lot different than teaching an entire curriculum
Disney manages to survive getting Disney World and such eviscerated by Wall Street, and having its land sold and developed in the short term, likely screwing over the region royally, which makes me feel like it was a victory for all!
But now look at Disney. "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian."
Not saying they didn't pull shit before, but like, now they're close to owning the world and it's flippin' scary.
I think that’s a pretty big exaggeration, even if you’re not literal and are only talking from an entertainment standpoint. I’m not arguing that Disney isn’t big, but even if the recent acquisitions it’s mostly about expanding into new territory and less about trying to “own the world”. Thinking about the entertainment I consume on a regular basis, even being a HUGE Disney fan, and taking into account all of the recent purchases... it’s about 30-35%.
So, no, I don’t see Disney as a villain or out for world domination, but I do see them trying their hardest to NOT be put into a position they were in before where buyouts were possible.
Quite the exaggeration there
@@richardludwig3673 You make solid points. After the Fox buyout, it'll probably be a LONG time before Disney attempts another acquisition. And it's not like they can acquire their other rivals; Comcast already bought Universal, AT&T already bought Warner Bros., Viacom is planning to re-merge with CBS, and Japanese laws are protecting Sony.
Timothy Darden Or at least one on that scale. I’m sure there will be smaller ones or maybe medium sized ones (that’s just normal part of business).
Kaitlyn Y. I certainly don’t think it’s the ONLY reason, but it’s certainly interesting - especially with the relationship with Hulu. There’s a lot of value, and a lot of hidden gems in the deal, and a lot not just related to content. I think streaming is the short term, low hanging fruit (and I have to wonder if most of the Fox content will wind up on Hulu and Disney+ will be “pure Disney”) for gain in the next few years. The long-term goal of the buyout will be more in merchandising and experiences outside passive entertainment.
Speaking of government bureaucracy, can you do a video about the trademark on Mickey Mouse?
Yet another home run. Love your stuff Rob
I literally just read "Walt Disney and the Promise of Progress City" today! This is so weird to see this on my feed now too!
Now having an existential crisis in a world where Disney is bought and prices for parks rise so high i can never go again
Fascinating Rob as always. Hard to imagine today but if a group of shady investors had seized control of Disney I bet Orlando would look like Hilldale in back to the future II after Biff gets the almanac. Poor Minnie Mouse in a crop top working the streets 😭
Petition to make Robbie go to Walt Disneys grave
Love your videos Rob.. They are full of new stuff about Disney I've never heard about it. Keep doing the great job. Cheers from Brazilian Disney fans.
Love watching your videos; I especially love the outros. They remind me of when I was there as a kid standing in line for one more ride at the end of the day.
Really hope the next generation of Disney is better than the current one. I miss the old Disney.
Oh my god I’m literally an idiot. I thought we we’re going to discuss the times disney has had power outages 🤦♂️
Luke same! I was really excited too. Maybe it can be a Future video?
you're precious
Awesome, Rob! I always end up one-up-ing others in conversations thanks to your videos when we're battling out our Disney knowledge with one another! Always look forward to them! Plus, cool live stream yesterday! Keep 'em coming!
This hits different now
Thinking about fun Florida governmental organizational names, I was once asked to address the Florida Utilities Coordinating Committee’s quarterly meeting. The committee then was using the acronym that it had used for decades, the F.U.C.C.
Longer form history about Reedy Creek is very interesting. Glad Disney is still able to hang on.
I can tell what a Disney Geek you are by the film clip montage that you assembled at the end of this video, Rob.
Keep it up, you have the knack to make obscure things about Disney interesting.
Love to hear this information! Had no idea about the potential value, and Roy potentially selling the parks for the studios. Very cool stuff
This was surprisingly interesting! Well done, Rob!
Excellent video Rob! I’d hate to think what a takeover would look like and what Disney would become. There’s no way they could preserve the culture and philosophy long-term. Only Disney does Disney.
I love your videos, man. Really well edited, written and orchestrated. I always get pumped as soon as I see you upload new content. As a Disney nerd myself it’s insane how much there is to know about the history of Disney
Hey Rob, great video once again. I'd love to see you make a video speculating what would happen if Disney did lose the Reedy Creek Improvement District
This video is going to get a spike in views today lol
That 1980’s footage of disney at the conservation part looks like a nice place to visit,
The best way to resolve the issues regarding the RCD powers would be to legislate that in the event that the company's ownership structure changes, then the RCD's powers become servely limited until local government can decide what to do with the powers (give them back, or keep them for themselves).
You should do a video about the abc Disney merger
If Disney took over Comcast then what would the state of Florida do?
"...and apparently long names." hahaha!
It's scary that this could happen again
Hey Rob, I would love to see a video about projects that Disney had that never came to fruition. For instance the Disney World airport or any technology he thought was the way of the future.
Great research, thank you!
To borrow a term from a popular radio show, “Dittos!” Rob knocked it out of the park, yet again! Thanks, Rob! See ya real soon(in Orlando!)
Love the videos Rob
I don't believe that Reedy Creek is necessary anymore. It was almost formed under false pretenses; EPCOT the city was never realized, and EPCOT was pretty much the entire reason why Reedy Creek was formed in the first place. If other companies like Universal or SeaWorld don't get their own municipalities, I don't think a megacorp like Disney should get one either.
It ain't going anywhere anytime soon. In Disney's case, it helps to be first since nothing like it will ever be granted again
Let's face it universal gets some pretty good perks too. They are getting on site permitting so things don't have to take longer like for their third gate
Good stuff ,Rob😀
Rob, can you talk about some of the things that used to be at Liberty Square? I know there used to be (maybe still is) meet and greets with Benjamin Franklin and Betsy Ross. Some shops I remember was Mademoiselle Lafayette's Parfumerie (you could could create your own perfume formula and even keep it on file there for refills), Johnny Tremain's silversmith shop, Tricornered Hat Shoppe, and an antique shop (where, I believe, you could buy replicas of historical US documents like the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution). I also remember the drumming show used to be there before it moved to the American pavilion in EPCOT (and they would give kids a certificate for helping, not sure if that is still done in EPCOT). They also used to have Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Chip, Dale (and maybe Pluto) at the Liberty Tree Tavern. They were dressed in colonial outfits.
Great video again. Thx
VIDEO SUGGESTION: Of all the Disney RUclips channels I am subscribed to, you seem to be the right one for this suggestion since you go so much into the behind-the-scenes stuff. What are all the islands called in Bay Lake and Seven Seas Lagoon. Now many of your viewers probably know of the now-defunct Discovery Island but what about the other islands? There's another big one in Bay Lake and then there are three in Seven Seas Lagoon. From satellite photographs, boats seem to be docked at the ones in Seven Seas. Are these private residences? From satellite photos, the one in the middle of Seven Seas has at least 16 buildings in its center in rows and columns and then one to the north that looks like a grand house.
And then there are the three islands in the EPCOT lake. Two of which have buildings on them and far right one has quite an extensive building on it.
"...and apparently long names..." 😂
Today Disney’s power is guarded by their immense military strength. They are the 2nd largest purchaser of explosives in the US.
Great video and interesting info as always, thanks!
What were those movie clips at 1:23 - 1:28?
That would be Condorman and The Cat From Outer Space
I know it’s a bit late to comment and try and get your attention, but do you have any merch? You’re probably my favorite RUclipsr, and i’d love to buy a Rob Plays t-shirt!
Soon to be Three* 🤦 - We might need a follow up with everything going on.
Awesome video! Great info! Love your work!
Great video, lots of research obviously went into this😁
A Nice Video as always, But I wonder if you can Come back to making videos on Minecraft ex: ThePalace (McMagic) or other servers, Those were my absolute favorites in your channel
Awesome!
The irony is now this these over developing everything there
As of today they has passed a law to get raid of Reedy Creek
It's good to know this info.
The time when Lex Luthor snuck kryptonite into the Cinderella Castle
Love the channel Rob! Keep it up
If you thought you could scare me away with a video about government bureaucracy, Rob, you are wrong: interesting video, as always! :-)
I do have a question: you mentioned a couple of times that the legislature wanted to revise the Reedy Creek legislation "before it was too late," but, why would it ever have been "too late"? If the new owners of the land turned out to be bad administrators, couldn't the legislators change the laws, or abolish the district at that moment? What was the hurry to act before the new owners came into possession of the district?
From what I could tell, Florida moved pretty slowly when it came to these issues, and it seemed like they knew it. Even just that report to assess the Reedy Creek powers took the greater part of a year. I believe the fear was that new owners could get started on projects faster than Florida could react.
@@MidwaytoMainStreet Ah, interesting. I wondered if maybe Florida has a part-time legislature (like we do in Texas), where they don't convene every year and thus would be too slow to respond to a bad actor.
Thanks for the explanation (and for the great videos): keep up the good work! :-)
2:02 I thought Roy was Walt’s brother?
Two Roys. Roy O Disney was Walt's brother. Roy O had a son, named Roy E Disney. That's the Roy who helped get Eisner into Disney as CEO and helped remove him around 2004/2005.
The question I'm worried about is what Disney is going to buy next lol.
For all the good things Disney has done, it still feels reallllllllly late stage capitalism for them to directly control a government district
Can it fall under the theory of late stage capitalism if it's been true since the 60's?
@@missybarbour6885 LSC doesn't refer to a specific time period, but to behaviours and actions
It's every stage capitalism.
And now they may again
Considering what Disney has done as of late, we might have a Round 3 of this topic soon.
Love the b-roll
Rapid development hurting people, as a resident of Western Pasco County, Florida I know this all too close.
7:17 X-Men Origins: Wolverine! 😁
Lol I remember when you used to go to the Mc magic Minecraft server glad to see you’re still in disney
It always weirds me out a little when people say Flarida.
Are you gonna start doing Rob plays that game again? On October 1st palace is doing a NewMK and I offer unofficial backstage tours in MCParks.
No plans to at the moment. I still enjoying playing games on the side, but I haven't touched Minecraft in a number of years and found I enjoy doing these styled videos more than the video game stuff.
I'm dumb and I expected electrical power outtage.
another awesome video. this might be common knowledge, but as someone who's never been to disney world, i was wondering where did the name "Epcot" come from?
Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow
thanks!
Damn. Now I'm wishing Disney was sold. They're to corrupted now. And they seem to put profit over quality. I hate how expensive everything is at their parks. From tickets and passes. To food and souvenirs.
Let's see. Comcast owns Universal Theme Parks. The parks have great ticket, hotel, food, and ticket prices. They own practically a lot of their own original companies and franchises.
However...
Comcast does have a few cons which really grind my gears.
For one, Universal created Minions. !Shudders!
Two, Universal is too obsessed with 4D and screen rides.
Three, Universal doesn't have many mascots for their different film themed lands.
Four, Universal doesn't seem to care much about their film history and destory practically every old ride and attraction they have.
Good Show
I feel like a county (or even state) can't unilaterally take powers away from a municipality. Especially when neither have any assets inside that zone (like roads, bridges, park land, etc). Taking away their powers simply because of the threat of even a hostile takeover would be akin to taking their powers because of the threat of a new mayor being elected.
If this actually happened I suspect Disney would take this all the way to the US Supreme Court, and I don't think the high Court would be very impressed with the county/state taking action based off "what ifs".
Condorman needs a reboot
why not make it nontransferable in the event Disney somehow get bought out Reedy Creek Improvement District would be overseen by the state governing and surrounding cities
If 1984 and 2004 have taught us something...
Is look forward to 2024!
Now I have a friend fearmongering about Disney monopolizing the entire industry after acquiring Fox because this year, their movies made more money than the movies made from other competitors, and it's angering a lot of non-Disney fans from DC fans to Pokémon fans to Godzilla fans.
While Disney is one of the very few megacorps that I've ever seen to actually get good "synergy" value out of corporate acquisitions, and I've enjoyed many of the products coming out of Marvel and Lucasfilm under Disney, in the long run I don't think it's good for one company to control so much of the entertainment and media landscape. There are risks they likely won't take that an independent company might.
I don’t see the buyouts as an attempt at a monopoly as much as a bid for additional avenues of content (They don’t have an avenue to produce content that Fox does under their existing studios).. Disney could have formed their own new company / studio to produce certain types of entertainment they normally wouldn’t have made under their current structure, but it was probably wiser to buy existing to get the IP and the audience built in. Now, what remains to be seen is how they deal with the new IP.
My cousin was a reedy creek fire fighters
They tried to make DLR a self governed area too.
Is Celebration inside the Reedy Creek Improvement District?
Nope. The land was de-annexed from the RCID before being sold off in order preserve Disney's control of the district. Same goes for Golden Oak.
4:54 Stitch! 😁
I’m a little confused I’ve learned before about people trying to buy Disney, but how can there be a take over if Disney is not for sale?
"A hostile takeover is the acquisition of one company (called the target company) by another (called the acquirer) that is accomplished by going directly to the company's shareholders or fighting to replace management to get the acquisition approved."
Disney shares are publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange; anyone can offer to buy its shares if a shareholder is willing to sell. As long as a company is publicly traded, somebody can attempt to buy up a controlling majority.
Ah I didn’t realise there were public shares available, makes sense now 👌🏼
COOL!!!!!!
What kind of typeface do you use?
Disney World will forever be able to do whatever it wants. Always. It’s the number one vacation destination in the world, and creates literally billions of dollars for the Florida economy. And I’m ok with that lol.
you should try getting back onto mc magic
Once the story has died down after all the lawsuits, will you be uodating this video?
I’ve been thinking about it. I’d definitely want to wait until the end of these lawsuits and for the dust to settle, so it might end up being a while though.
Watching this in Disney lol
IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT COULD buy Disney right now?! I mean, maybe outside of Apple or Amazon? There are almost no suitors that would make any sense, whatsoever!
edvaira6891 Funny you mention Apple, considering Steve Jobs share in Disney when Disney bought Pixar. I know some people were thinking Jobs would be a candidate for the new Disney CEO, but that was never realistic (for many reasons, not the least of which was Jobs affinity for Apple).
Borrow the money, chop Disney up and sell chunks to pay off loan
Demon Princes Haha Haha! Nobody has that kind of money to loan out. On top of which you would never get the value for the pieces that the whole has.
@@richardludwig3673 it done all the time. Even Disney's nephew was going to do it
Demon Princes Yes, when Disney was much, MUCH smaller. Besides, like I said, you would never earn the money back selling off the chunks. For example, part of the worth of the parks (now more than ever) is the IP associated with that. If you started selling off properties and now the parks either have to pay a huge price for the IP or close down/rebrand the ride, the value of the park plummets.
Isn't it time to update this?
The third time was the charm, wasn't it?
Nope. We’ll see what happens next year. DeSantis himself has admitted that the state would need to work on additional legislation to make the repeal happen, and they even left an opening for the RCID to be reestablished on literally the same day it’s dissolved. So I’m not updating anything until it actually happens, and that’s if it actually happens.
Welp
Who’s watching in 2022?