I love Eisner's policy of open mindedness in the company. I mean he did let some bad projects through, but quite a few were really impressive. (think Euro Disneyland- now Disneyland Paris-, Disney's Animal Kingdom, Splash Mountain and others)
@The Reverend Jim Jones shows that the man is still a genius. Was it not for MICHAEL EISNER, DISNEY would not be where it is today. Much less would BOB IGER have his career.
The Mickey Mouse hotel sounds like something from an older era, like from 1880-1930. Coney Island actually had a hotel shaped like a giant elephant for a time.
Try again the Micky’s Kitchen. Because back then the world wasn’t ready to start going healthy, vegan all that healthy stuff. Now they are. They would have a stronger chance of surviving this time
Yeah, plus the current trend of taking pictures of cool-looking food could easily work with the Disney brand. They could make healthy food themed after disney stuff and people would love it...too bad there's no Disney store to test it in anymore
@Peter Reilly It would better if the hotel was named the Mickey Mouse Hotel, not designed as Mickey Mouse. Even though, most Disney resorts are Mickey Mouse hotels: they are nice .
I think the concept behind Mickey's Kitchen would work great, just do it as an actual place instead of stuffed away inside a store were no one is going to find it without going into the store itself. A lot of people are more concience about what they eat this days. Though in this day and age and how Disney makes use of wireless networks and media to get information out, location isn't really a problem. As long as people can find out its there and find where it is.
SmeeshSmosh Smeesh I hate to admit it, but we love the food while on property any would love to eat such treats while home. Maybe a idea worth revisiting.
Modern Warfare - Benedict Munks MWBenedict You hit the nail on the head....If they featured stuff like turkey legs and Dole whips I think they would have been competitive
Disney Restaurants! It'd be great to have a little of the park in places were we are too far away to visit all the time. But with a simple menu of iconic park food. Dole whips, Mickey ear ice cream, turkey legs, pretzels. And with the usual Disney incredible touch!
I could definitely see the year long Mickey and Minnie wedding idea working today. Especially to help launch their new ride in Hollywood Studios. They could get married at the Orlando park and then they could go on an extra long honeymoon and visit all the parks outside of America.
I wouldn’t mind the fast food restaurant idea brought back to life. I’d love for there to be a place where I can get a Disneyland corn dog without having to actually go all the way to Disneyland.
SHAMELESS PLUG: Join me, Rob, and friends for Magic Kingdom Trivia Night tomorrow at 10PM EST (March 1)! There will be more than a few Eisner questions.
The idea of a "Disney" luxury car in the same vein as a "Lexus" or "Tesla" is weirdly appealing to me. Especially if they somehow made a sleek black "Vader" or "Black Panther" model; wouldn't that just look awesome on a Beverly Hills driveway? Meow.
The Disney Car idea and the Mickey's Kitchen idea strike me as interesting (and I'm saying this as someone who is not the biggest fan of Eisner-not by a longshot).
Disney always said that Mickey and Minnie were married in real life but in show biz Minnie is his leading lady. SOrry Eisner Walt already did that one.
I say we bring back the Mickey's Kitchen idea! We can lay the Disney cars idea to rest, I think it's safe to say. While everyone's questioning if Mickey and Minnie are ever getting married, when is Donald ever going to propose to Daisy?
Probably the week after she praposes to him and he dodges the question untill Gooffy and Micky gult him to man up. then the short ends with Minnie catching the buqeet. Mickey tugs at his tux color uncomfortable cue goofy laugh pat on the back and a booowoop iris around micky.
if i were an imagineer and was there when he pitched the mickey hotel i would have straight up died on the spot. my soul would have left my body and i would have died and what remained would have been a husk. I know it's to foster creativity - there are no stupid suggestions, right? but i would have just been like "my boss is crazy! neat!" and been raptured out of there on the spot. great video!! i'm still getting into to theme park history proper and just heard/saw you on the defunctland trivia night and decided to finally check you out!
last time i went to disney i went to the contemporary for a dinner with the characters. I asked both Mickey and Minnie if they were married, and they both said no.
I like the Mickey's Kitchen idea, especially with healthy and vegetarian (and perhaps vegan?) options. I think it would actually do well if came back today since many people have become more health conscious and there are so many dedicated disney fans that would go to it just because it's Disney.
StormyStrikesChannel Ikr?! It sounds amazing, but people even today don't like healthy food. They enjoy having the option for their "vegetarian friends" but the idea of healthy food-only is indoctrinating and gross to your average American Joe.
But, it's the junk food that people buy at Disney, not their "healthy alternative" and their junk food won't stand up against anybody outside the park.
It would totally work, but it would need theming that skewed toward the classier Disney eateries. Maybe even a new IP with a Disney tie-in. If you could bring some of the quality theming of Disney's best, then it would easily have a market. Naming health food after the characters is pretty much a non-starter, though. At least outside of a kids menu. The rise of fast casual leaves the market open for Disney, if they so desired. It might actually help start some trends if played right.
try again with the Mickey Mouse Hotel, have him backed up against a 'regular' facade for elevators et al, then having cool suites extend out, with top being the coolest penthouse. Should be doable today. Put it either in FL or CA.
The strangest thing about the suggestion was not the Hotel shape but its location. Riverside drive in Burbank? Near the mighty LA river and - well not much else
Well, the Mickey Hotel coooould work if Disney used his sorcerer Mickey design for the framework... They could even have a broom beside him that would be the lobby. His feet could be the elevators. Just a thought, lol. Edit: Or take it a step further and just create a Fantasia Hotel :D
I can see why there would be issues with boats in the world showcase but I would love if you could rent a sail boat and either have someone take you out or go out alone if you can provide qualifications. My boyfriend is a professional sailor and it would be so fun to pick up a picnic from world showcase and go out on the water!
If Disney can have success in cruise ships, then certainly a Mickey Mouse Hotel & a Mickey's Kitchen would be great ideas that could work. The problem would be figuring out how to better implement them. Mickey Mouse Hotels could be a series of all-inclusive-style Disney-branded hotels where families can spend time together, joining in different family-friendly activities, depending on where these hotels were. A Disney Hotel next to the Grand Canyon could offer tours w/cast members, for instance. Disney Restaurants (not fast food, but actual sit-down restaurants) should just offer Disney-themed breakfast, lunch & dinner dishes. While there should always be a set menu of a handful of items, the menu could change w/new dishes related to their latest properties. Maybe there could be a Star Wars themed plate, a Pixar or Disney animated plate or a Superhero, Marvel Studios plate. The restaurants' waiters, waitresses, hosts & hostesses could be in costume & play characters from the films. Think The Magic Time Machine chain of restaurants. Imagine the Mad Hatter taking your order!
Guernicaman Those are sad mediocre watered down versions that will be really disappointing. Slapping a Disney icon on an average product is the hallmark of bad brand management, as it ultimately devalues the brand. The products that are remembered and carry the brand forward are properly unique ideas like the classic Mickey Mouse alarm clock, not a regular clock with Mickey drawn on the clock face.
The fast food of healthy food would do better nowadays than before. In the past people didn’t know the unhealthy things with fast food and gmo foods. Internet and social media makes it big impact nowadays
The one idea I would want to see play out is Mickey and Minnies year-long wedding because it sounds like such a fun idea and, unlike the Mickey Hotel idea, it can be done.
I can see why they couldn't build the Mickey Mouse Hotel during Eisner's reign as CEO due to the lack of technology and architecture per say (the elevator up the leg), but I feel that now it is possible and it would be something very cool to have built on Disney property. Even if there isn't necessarily technology for it right now, Imagineers are extremely intelligent and I'm sure there's a way they could think of something in order to make it work!
I don’t know.. I think it would be smarter and cooler to have a hotel based around the architecture location and design of the original Disney cartoons.
Yeah, marrying Mickey and Minnie was a bad idea. For one simple reason; it would imply the characters _age_. In all of cartooning, that's nearly unheard of (it's been done in a few comic strips, but in general it's a topic to be avoided). And considering Mickey has been around for 90 years, it would be even worse.
How is that a problem? Disney could just make it so that from that point, these two characters will always be considered married. They don’t have to keep aging after that. Heck, not only did Goofy got married, but he also became a father and last time we saw his son, he was in college, and Goofy was still the same character we knew and love.
You didn’t mention Plectu’s Intergalactic Review which was supposed to go into the then empty Carousel of Progress/America Sings building at Disneyland
The televised Mickey and Minnie wedding special is a genius idea. I wouldn’t mind having a Disney themed restaurant to go to regularly either. Mickey’s Kitchen sounds like fun
Last I heard, they were in some sort of Schrodinger's relationship of being kind of both married, but also just dating. I think that's part of the idea why giving them an official wedding was scrapped, it would have implied they definitively weren't before.
Back when originality was a thing in the parks... I.P.s are not always a bad thing, but there needs to be something original. We’ll have to wait until 2021 *at least.*
The Mickey and Minnie wedding/vow renewal(?) sounds really cute, actually! Aside from the normal Halloween and Christmas events, it would be nice to have something special, for, say, an anniversary (that could double as the Mouse couple's anniversary as well). People might think it's weird or "extra" but I guarantee that when the event actually happens, Disney fans will be clamoring to get a piece of the wedding cake anyway.
I think the Mickey Mouse hotel would be a pivotal direction in accommodations that the company provides, and I think it would fit better in Walt Disney World. That being said, I think the hotel would be shaped as the typical mouse head and ears...it would be like Spaceship Earth, but it would have two smaller spheres on either side of it to be a 3-dimensional Mickey head. Rooms would be placed on the main sphere as well as the smaller ones. The elevators wouldn't be a problem then! LOL!
Yeah, the original idea for wdw was to be in Louisiana but our governor who was a crook at the time shut that down because he wanted money for his own personal reasons and Walt moved on to Florida because he wanted ALOT of money.
that idea of boats at epcot is very interesting. perhaps letting the boats already available to rent from the yacht club continue into the living seas lagoon
Rob, somewhere in my “family video vault” I have several minutes of what is probably very rare and detailed footage of the Mickey’s Kitchen that was opened at the Woodfield Mall in Schaumburg, IL in the ‘90s. It was, as you said in your piece, connected to the Disney Store there. We took our three little kids there soon after it opened. If you’d like to see it, we can try to figure out a way to get it to you. Love your work!
Having grown up with Disney in the Eisner era, he having gotten there only a couple of years after we moved to Florida, I've always been defensive of him. There were things I didn't like but I loved his trying to emulate some of the things that Walt represented and the child like joy, he put into talking about them. For some reason, we always called him Mikey.
Rob I have to say I'm really glad I started watching your videos, I started watching them after the summer last year while I was transitioning into cyber school and ever since then I've been watching your videos which are really great and entertaining
Anyone know if Disney has ever considered opening up what one may call, a Magic Kingdom Classic park? Okay, the name needs some fixing, but what I mean is either a Magic Kingdom add-on, or another park all together that's filled with classic rides? I'm guessing that kind of an idea never got off the drawing board, and I'm not even sure it would pay off for shareholders. Disney's good at creating nostalgia, but here lately they don't seem to mind sending the classics to the boneyard. But I'm probably one of the few people who wish they keep the old stuff around too! I'm probably just showing my age. Seems like it would be great for small kids.
I totally agree with you bring back the innocent times to disney when they din`t sell alcohol at the parks and they focused on children. Get rid off the politics, alcohol, gay pride and all the other adult agendas. Keep Disney Golden.
You mean the rides that aren’t there anymore? When you say classic rides, that is? (I’m assuming you mean THE Magic Kingdom, so Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride and Snow White’s Scary Adventures?)
A friend of mine who was head of Park Entertainment at DisneyWorld during Eisner's era said that they were once brainstorming ideas about how to celebrate the turn of the century at the Disney parks (1999-2000). He said that in the meeting, Eisner floated the idea of partnering with NASA, and sending satellites into orbit packed with high-caliber fireworks. Then, at the stroke of midnight in each of the 24 main time zones on 1/1/2001, the satellites would unleash their payload, creating the largest Mickey-shaped fireworks displays ever, and at atmosphere, would be seen by a majority of the earth's population. The idea apparently gained legs for a few weeks, until someone did some research about the national security implications and they shelved the idea. Crazy!!
There was an idea to build an full scale aircraft carrier that would be fully functional. This was originally thought that they could purchase a retired unit from the military and place it at then MGM to be used by filmmakers and the military.
Awesome as always Rob! I replied to another poster about Eisner and Iger, but it made me wonder, what other CEO’s have existed at the Walt Disney Company? Was it Walt until he died? Did Walt even officially hold the title of CEO or was he just in control because he was Walt? Did Roy or a board of executives name the CEO successor to Walt? Also, do we know the most about Eisner and Iger because they are the most recent heads of the company or is it because they really have done the most for the company since Walt? I know that you have often mentioned the directionless era after Walt died and before Eisner where they were just trying to do what they think Walt would have done but I guess I’m curious about who was in charge at that time and why they were so directionless?
Rentable boats! I've rented boats from Disney Springs, and really enjoyed it -- although the 'terrain' going up to Port Orleans is more interesting than it would be at the Epcot.
This is a tricky question. I like all the ideas. Even the ones that didn't work. However, I like the idea of Disney cars, but as characters. I would drive a character themed car. My favorite idea would be The Mickey Mouse hotel, although instead of being in the shape of Mickey, it would be Mickey themed.
At the time the car thing would have worked if they had EPCOT branded it. Keeping with the Innovations at Futureworld. But, sadly, not now that they have lost even that vision of EPCOT.
I'd pay good money to attend Mickey and Minnie's wedding. Seems like a fun idea, and a good opportunity for synergy and a unique event that would draw people into the parks. There could be a meet and greet with Minnie in her dress and Mickey in his tux, which would be a unique and cool photo-op.
Mickey Mouse Hotel seems great! Just not over a major highway. BUT the best idea was the year long celebration of Mickey & Minnies wedding. I get the adult concept after thought. But, it’s a neat year long thought for three of the parks.
Even if it did sortuv sound like a commercial, I so would’ve watched the marriage of Mickey and Minnie! Also, did you forget about WESTcot and Disney’s America?
I like the idea of mickey's kitchen. They'd rack up some money since most people are health conscious now a days, not to mention, I wouldn't mind a healthier burger and fries. Or a good salad. Add to that, a different themed restaurant, people love posting their experiences on social media. It's a win win
I would love to see a Mickey Mouse Hotel but instead in the shape of Mickey Mouse’s head. It’s such an iconic shape that if you were to make a hotel based off of him, there would be one thing that came to mind when thinking of it which is the 3 circles that form his head.
WESTCOT!!!!! or DISNEY SEA in LA SO envious that Japan has one that the idea concept sounded so great and true. Sadly not anyone can admire this idea so it was shelved!. What we are left is what we have!
To be honest a disney branded car that is super safe sounds great as long as it doesn't look like the cars in that 90s parade where the charactors heads were plastered on the hoods.
One failed idea that never got off the ground was a partnership between Disney and Vanguard Animation. Valiant supposed to be the beginning of a proposed 4 picture deal between Disney and Vanguard Animation.
I think the only one of those I'd like to see is a franchised Disney food chain like Mickey's Kitchen was. Maybe instead of crummy fast food it could be more like an ice cream shop or something.
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The Michael Eisner-Era was such an interesting time for Disney.
Then iger cam along and threw it all in the back dumpster🗑
@@TheMrfoxguy What are you talking about. He bought Pixar, and now we have Marvel Movies.
@@icecreamhero2375 you are everywhere
Eisner's Era proved that you need a strong business sense, not just a strong imagination to run Disney.
I love Eisner's policy of open mindedness in the company. I mean he did let some bad projects through, but quite a few were really impressive. (think Euro Disneyland- now Disneyland Paris-, Disney's Animal Kingdom, Splash Mountain and others)
@The Reverend Jim Jones shows that the man is still a genius. Was it not for MICHAEL EISNER, DISNEY would not be where it is today. Much less would BOB IGER have his career.
He asked for ideas from all levels of the company. Thats a nice of him.
The Mickey Mouse hotel sounds like something from an older era, like from 1880-1930. Coney Island actually had a hotel shaped like a giant elephant for a time.
Actually, that building still exists it’s called Lucy and it’s in New Jersey
Try again the Micky’s Kitchen. Because back then the world wasn’t ready to start going healthy, vegan all that healthy stuff. Now they are. They would have a stronger chance of surviving this time
Yeah, plus the current trend of taking pictures of cool-looking food could easily work with the Disney brand. They could make healthy food themed after disney stuff and people would love it...too bad there's no Disney store to test it in anymore
I would like the Mickey Mouse hotel... although I would like to stay in the head instead of a leg. Thanks for the video Rob!
It was probably better than refitting current resorts with character designs.
@Peter Reilly It would better if the hotel was named the Mickey Mouse Hotel, not designed as Mickey Mouse. Even though, most Disney resorts are Mickey Mouse hotels: they are nice .
In before Kevin shows up and starts screaming about Eisner.
Disney Dan lmao
EISNNNNEEERRR!!!!
Oh no, it has started.
Defunctland and there it is.
just thinking the same lmao
I think the concept behind Mickey's Kitchen would work great, just do it as an actual place instead of stuffed away inside a store were no one is going to find it without going into the store itself. A lot of people are more concience about what they eat this days.
Though in this day and age and how Disney makes use of wireless networks and media to get information out, location isn't really a problem. As long as people can find out its there and find where it is.
tbh, it'd be cool if Disney tried that fast food chain idea again
SmeeshSmosh Smeesh I hate to admit it, but we love the food while on property any would love to eat such treats while home. Maybe a idea worth revisiting.
I think the issue is they were trying to sell healthy which especially at the time can be a tough sell for kids.
Two words - Turkey Legs.
Modern Warfare - Benedict Munks MWBenedict You hit the nail on the head....If they featured stuff like turkey legs and Dole whips I think they would have been competitive
Make it fast casual with variety of themed foods and have those plastic statues of characters in restaurant.
Disney Restaurants! It'd be great to have a little of the park in places were we are too far away to visit all the time. But with a simple menu of iconic park food. Dole whips, Mickey ear ice cream, turkey legs, pretzels. And with the usual Disney incredible touch!
I could definitely see the year long Mickey and Minnie wedding idea working today. Especially to help launch their new ride in Hollywood Studios. They could get married at the Orlando park and then they could go on an extra long honeymoon and visit all the parks outside of America.
A Mickey mouse themed Fast Food place sounds good.All we need are Mickey Mouse shaped Hamburgers.
Gamer Addy 99 or a mickey shaped pizza!
mickey shaped chicken/quorn (veggie) nuggets? or are they too small?
This is one idea I would have liked to see succeeded.
I wouldn’t mind the fast food restaurant idea brought back to life. I’d love for there to be a place where I can get a Disneyland corn dog without having to actually go all the way to Disneyland.
Or bring fast food restaurants to the park
SHAMELESS PLUG: Join me, Rob, and friends for Magic Kingdom Trivia Night tomorrow at 10PM EST (March 1)! There will be more than a few Eisner questions.
Nol Dur whoops, meant 10! Sorry
Nooo!
Where at?
It was a total blast Kevin, thanks for taking the time to make it happen, looking forward to more!
D'oh!
Something tells me for Mickey's and Minnie's 100 birthday: We might see a revisit for that marriage idea.
The idea of a "Disney" luxury car in the same vein as a "Lexus" or "Tesla" is weirdly appealing to me. Especially if they somehow made a sleek black "Vader" or "Black Panther" model; wouldn't that just look awesome on a Beverly Hills driveway? Meow.
The Disney Car idea and the Mickey's Kitchen idea strike me as interesting (and I'm saying this as someone who is not the biggest fan of Eisner-not by a longshot).
So we almost got a Mickey Mouse version of the Colossus of Rhodes.
Disney always said that Mickey and Minnie were married in real life but in show biz Minnie is his leading lady. SOrry Eisner Walt already did that one.
I say we bring back the Mickey's Kitchen idea! We can lay the Disney cars idea to rest, I think it's safe to say.
While everyone's questioning if Mickey and Minnie are ever getting married, when is Donald ever going to propose to Daisy?
Probably the week after she praposes to him and he dodges the question untill Gooffy and Micky gult him to man up. then the short ends with Minnie catching the buqeet. Mickey tugs at his tux color uncomfortable cue goofy laugh pat on the back and a booowoop iris around micky.
if i were an imagineer and was there when he pitched the mickey hotel i would have straight up died on the spot. my soul would have left my body and i would have died and what remained would have been a husk. I know it's to foster creativity - there are no stupid suggestions, right? but i would have just been like "my boss is crazy! neat!" and been raptured out of there on the spot.
great video!! i'm still getting into to theme park history proper and just heard/saw you on the defunctland trivia night and decided to finally check you out!
Mickey and Minnie ARE married. They have wedding pins, wedding cake toppers, drawings of them married. They are married I don't care what no one says.
I say they wear their wedding rings under their gloves.
last time i went to disney i went to the contemporary for a dinner with the characters. I asked both Mickey and Minnie if they were married, and they both said no.
Yes! Walt Disney himself confirmed that Mickey and Minnie are married
They even had children at one point. Christmas carol?
RussianBoss 037 I find that super hard to believe as somebody who works at the parks because that would be considered breaking the magic.
I like the Mickey's Kitchen idea, especially with healthy and vegetarian (and perhaps vegan?) options. I think it would actually do well if came back today since many people have become more health conscious and there are so many dedicated disney fans that would go to it just because it's Disney.
StormyStrikesChannel Ikr?! It sounds amazing, but people even today don't like healthy food. They enjoy having the option for their "vegetarian friends" but the idea of healthy food-only is indoctrinating and gross to your average American Joe.
StormyStrikesChannel I wouldn't mind a healthier burger.
But, it's the junk food that people buy at Disney, not their "healthy alternative" and their junk food won't stand up against anybody outside the park.
I would eat there.
It would totally work, but it would need theming that skewed toward the classier Disney eateries. Maybe even a new IP with a Disney tie-in. If you could bring some of the quality theming of Disney's best, then it would easily have a market. Naming health food after the characters is pretty much a non-starter, though. At least outside of a kids menu. The rise of fast casual leaves the market open for Disney, if they so desired. It might actually help start some trends if played right.
"WORSHIP ME!!!" -The Mickey Mouse Hotel
Surely the fast food restaurant idea would’ve worked if they’d 1. Made normal fast food and 2. Put branches in food courts rather than Disney stores?
"So the good ones could float to the top" [cut to Wonders of Life] lolz
The boats would just be so fun. Give me all the boats. Heck, make 'em those mostly-wakeless foot-paddle ones.
try again with the Mickey Mouse Hotel, have him backed up against a 'regular' facade for elevators et al, then having cool suites extend out, with top being the coolest penthouse. Should be doable today. Put it either in FL or CA.
The strangest thing about the suggestion was not the Hotel shape but its location. Riverside drive in Burbank? Near the mighty LA river and - well not much else
I guess you can take a tour of the neighborhood lead by Bob Gurr
I think you got something there, it just needs a little more Disney magic to make it work, I'm sure in time it could take shape.
Or Mickey could stand with one leg crossing the ankle of the other which would require one leg to be straight, and that leg could house the elevators
Diagonal elevators are a thing people
Mickey's Kitchen, away from the parks, serving a few select dishes from Disney World. Disney cars, but maybe without putting the Disney name on them.
Well, the Mickey Hotel coooould work if Disney used his sorcerer Mickey design for the framework... They could even have a broom beside him that would be the lobby. His feet could be the elevators. Just a thought, lol.
Edit: Or take it a step further and just create a Fantasia Hotel :D
Tbh i thought Mickey and Minnie were already married. Igler needs to make that wedding happen.
I can see why there would be issues with boats in the world showcase but I would love if you could rent a sail boat and either have someone take you out or go out alone if you can provide qualifications. My boyfriend is a professional sailor and it would be so fun to pick up a picnic from world showcase and go out on the water!
If Disney can have success in cruise ships, then certainly a Mickey Mouse Hotel & a Mickey's Kitchen would be great ideas that could work. The problem would be figuring out how to better implement them. Mickey Mouse Hotels could be a series of all-inclusive-style Disney-branded hotels where families can spend time together, joining in different family-friendly activities, depending on where these hotels were. A Disney Hotel next to the Grand Canyon could offer tours w/cast members, for instance. Disney Restaurants (not fast food, but actual sit-down restaurants) should just offer Disney-themed breakfast, lunch & dinner dishes. While there should always be a set menu of a handful of items, the menu could change w/new dishes related to their latest properties. Maybe there could be a Star Wars themed plate, a Pixar or Disney animated plate or a Superhero, Marvel Studios plate. The restaurants' waiters, waitresses, hosts & hostesses could be in costume & play characters from the films. Think The Magic Time Machine chain of restaurants. Imagine the Mad Hatter taking your order!
Guernicaman Those are sad mediocre watered down versions that will be really disappointing. Slapping a Disney icon on an average product is the hallmark of bad brand management, as it ultimately devalues the brand. The products that are remembered and carry the brand forward are properly unique ideas like the classic Mickey Mouse alarm clock, not a regular clock with Mickey drawn on the clock face.
“No, make it in the shape of Mickey with rooms in the legs” that sounds like a “here’s your sign” joke, but this was a real conversation
As I see it Eisner was a genius. A mad genius.
The fast food of healthy food would do better nowadays than before. In the past people didn’t know the unhealthy things with fast food and gmo foods. Internet and social media makes it big impact nowadays
This was an excellent episode and topic.
Thanks!
You are a hard working lad. Yours by far are my favourite disney trivia videos. Treat yourself to something nice
As time goes on I see Michael Eisner as more of a tragic figure. I wonder what it would have been like if Frank Wells never had that accident.
Daryl-Rhys Taylor he was a money guy, he got them on track.
But as for creativity he was a dud.
Ninja Master well yeah. But then Eisner wouldn't have had to be in charge of the money.
tom kat he had a helicopter accident and died.
tom kat there us a dedication to him in The Lion King
Yeah, it's kinda sad how his initial creativity gave way to cynicism after the accident.
The one idea I would want to see play out is Mickey and Minnies year-long wedding because it sounds like such a fun idea and, unlike the Mickey Hotel idea, it can be done.
I can see why they couldn't build the Mickey Mouse Hotel during Eisner's reign as CEO due to the lack of technology and architecture per say (the elevator up the leg), but I feel that now it is possible and it would be something very cool to have built on Disney property. Even if there isn't necessarily technology for it right now, Imagineers are extremely intelligent and I'm sure there's a way they could think of something in order to make it work!
I wonder what part was impossible. The Eiffel tower already had diagonal going elevators in 1889!
That is true! Seems like Disney should've been able to have that technology.
Very true!
And the St Louis Arch
I don’t know.. I think it would be smarter and cooler to have a hotel based around the architecture location and design of the original Disney cartoons.
This was uploaded on my birthday
Ayy shoutout to my hometown mall, Montclair Plaza!! The Disney store still exists and is outdated but full of Moana and Coco merch!
Yeah, marrying Mickey and Minnie was a bad idea. For one simple reason; it would imply the characters _age_. In all of cartooning, that's nearly unheard of (it's been done in a few comic strips, but in general it's a topic to be avoided). And considering Mickey has been around for 90 years, it would be even worse.
How is that a problem? Disney could just make it so that from that point, these two characters will always be considered married. They don’t have to keep aging after that. Heck, not only did Goofy got married, but he also became a father and last time we saw his son, he was in college, and Goofy was still the same character we knew and love.
That's not even close to true.
You didn’t mention Plectu’s Intergalactic Review which was supposed to go into the then empty Carousel of Progress/America Sings building at Disneyland
Was West Town Mall Disney Store (Knoxville,Tennessee) part of the expansion or the original 41.
How about
5 Failed and *Not* Abandoned Eisner-Era Disney Ideas, or
5 *Not* Failed and *Not* Abandoned Eisner-Era Disney Ideas? Thanks!
I miss Eisner. He had a lot of the spirit of Walt, which was really needed at that time.
The televised Mickey and Minnie wedding special is a genius idea. I wouldn’t mind having a Disney themed restaurant to go to regularly either. Mickey’s Kitchen sounds like fun
Wait Mickey and Minnie aren't married?! What???
Well Walt said they were, so I am going on limb and say they are happily married.
Last I heard, they were in some sort of Schrodinger's relationship of being kind of both married, but also just dating. I think that's part of the idea why giving them an official wedding was scrapped, it would have implied they definitively weren't before.
Yeah, they're living in sin, its pretty comtroversial.
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Since when? It's not as if they have any kids or anything.
Back when originality was a thing in the parks...
I.P.s are not always a bad thing, but there needs to be something original. We’ll have to wait until 2021 *at least.*
I like the boat idea at Epcot!
I would LOVE to see the Mickey Mouse hotel!
I think it would be really interesting and fun if they got married. Think of the alliteration!
JifToons what about Donald and daisy getting married? That would be a fun event!
The Mickey and Minnie wedding/vow renewal(?) sounds really cute, actually! Aside from the normal Halloween and Christmas events, it would be nice to have something special, for, say, an anniversary (that could double as the Mouse couple's anniversary as well). People might think it's weird or "extra" but I guarantee that when the event actually happens, Disney fans will be clamoring to get a piece of the wedding cake anyway.
I think the Mickey Mouse hotel would be a pivotal direction in accommodations that the company provides, and I think it would fit better in Walt Disney World. That being said, I think the hotel would be shaped as the typical mouse head and ears...it would be like Spaceship Earth, but it would have two smaller spheres on either side of it to be a 3-dimensional Mickey head. Rooms would be placed on the main sphere as well as the smaller ones. The elevators wouldn't be a problem then! LOL!
Hey Rob! I’ve been subscribed to you for a year and I live your videos! Thank You!
That wedding plan actually sounds really cool.
I wish the American park in Virginia had been successful
it'd actually be really near where I live
I could have been a princess...
Yeah, the original idea for wdw was to be in Louisiana but our governor who was a crook at the time shut that down because he wanted money for his own personal reasons and Walt moved on to Florida because he wanted ALOT of money.
that idea of boats at epcot is very interesting. perhaps letting the boats already available to rent from the yacht club continue into the living seas lagoon
Wow the fast food and the cars would have been awesome!
Rob, somewhere in my “family video vault” I have several minutes of what is probably very rare and detailed footage of the Mickey’s Kitchen that was opened at the Woodfield Mall in Schaumburg, IL in the ‘90s. It was, as you said in your piece, connected to the Disney Store there. We took our three little kids there soon after it opened. If you’d like to see it, we can try to figure out a way to get it to you. Love your work!
Having grown up with Disney in the Eisner era, he having gotten there only a couple of years after we moved to Florida, I've always been defensive of him. There were things I didn't like but I loved his trying to emulate some of the things that Walt represented and the child like joy, he put into talking about them. For some reason, we always called him Mikey.
4:09 that's an adorable idea! I love it!!
It would be interesting to read a book that listed abandoned or failed Disney projects.
The Mickey and Minnie wedding plan sounds pretty good actually, the event would be pretty neat.
Eisner is a genius if it weren’t for him Disney would have gone bankrupt 30 years ago!!!
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Rob I have to say I'm really glad I started watching your videos, I started watching them after the summer last year while I was transitioning into cyber school and ever since then I've been watching your videos which are really great and entertaining
I love the idea of the boats at Epcot.
The healthy fast-food chain looked like a good idea, they should try that again.
I love the idea of Mickey and mini getting married lol!! I'd stay in a Mickey hotel for sure! These sound kinda cool!
Anyone know if Disney has ever considered opening up what one may call, a Magic Kingdom Classic park? Okay, the name needs some fixing, but what I mean is either a Magic Kingdom add-on, or another park all together that's filled with classic rides? I'm guessing that kind of an idea never got off the drawing board, and I'm not even sure it would pay off for shareholders. Disney's good at creating nostalgia, but here lately they don't seem to mind sending the classics to the boneyard. But I'm probably one of the few people who wish they keep the old stuff around too! I'm probably just showing my age. Seems like it would be great for small kids.
Bill Marion Maybe having my boi Oswald in a ride would be nice.
I totally agree with you bring back the innocent times to disney when they din`t sell alcohol at the parks and they focused on children. Get rid off the politics, alcohol, gay pride and all the other adult agendas. Keep Disney Golden.
wow i guess somebody really didn't like ellen's energy adventure
You mean the rides that aren’t there anymore? When you say classic rides, that is? (I’m assuming you mean THE Magic Kingdom, so Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride and Snow White’s Scary Adventures?)
Tokyo DisneySea was inspired by a cancelled Port Disney project in Long Beach, California.
I know it was just a prank. But the idea of a Canadian disney park is amazing to me
6:05 Now that's a mental image that will haunt my nightmares for years
A friend of mine who was head of Park Entertainment at DisneyWorld during Eisner's era said that they were once brainstorming ideas about how to celebrate the turn of the century at the Disney parks (1999-2000). He said that in the meeting, Eisner floated the idea of partnering with NASA, and sending satellites into orbit packed with high-caliber fireworks. Then, at the stroke of midnight in each of the 24 main time zones on 1/1/2001, the satellites would unleash their payload, creating the largest Mickey-shaped fireworks displays ever, and at atmosphere, would be seen by a majority of the earth's population. The idea apparently gained legs for a few weeks, until someone did some research about the national security implications and they shelved the idea. Crazy!!
I remember that Mickey's Kitchen at Montclair plaza, it never got busy and the food was similar to McDonald's but pricey
Either the marriage one or a giant Mickey Hotel actually sounds good to me. The worst was the car.
There was an idea to build an full scale aircraft carrier that would be fully functional. This was originally thought that they could purchase a retired unit from the military and place it at then MGM to be used by filmmakers and the military.
Another great video, I love the history videos the most. Im a recently made Disnerd and there's so much to absorb about the parks
Salads in wonderland?! Bibbidi bobbidi beverages?! Yes please! LOL
I like the idea of Mickey's Kitchen. But then, I also love eating at Chef Mickey's, ha.
Awesome as always Rob! I replied to another poster about Eisner and Iger, but it made me wonder, what other CEO’s have existed at the Walt Disney Company? Was it Walt until he died? Did Walt even officially hold the title of CEO or was he just in control because he was Walt? Did Roy or a board of executives name the CEO successor to Walt? Also, do we know the most about Eisner and Iger because they are the most recent heads of the company or is it because they really have done the most for the company since Walt? I know that you have often mentioned the directionless era after Walt died and before Eisner where they were just trying to do what they think Walt would have done but I guess I’m curious about who was in charge at that time and why they were so directionless?
Rentable boats! I've rented boats from Disney Springs, and really enjoyed it -- although the 'terrain' going up to Port Orleans is more interesting than it would be at the Epcot.
The hotel sounds like it would be pretty cool experience.
This is a tricky question. I like all the ideas. Even the ones that didn't work. However, I like the idea of Disney cars, but as characters. I would drive a character themed car. My favorite idea would be The Mickey Mouse hotel, although instead of being in the shape of Mickey, it would be Mickey themed.
At the time the car thing would have worked if they had EPCOT branded it. Keeping with the Innovations at Futureworld. But, sadly, not now that they have lost even that vision of EPCOT.
I want the Mickey Hotel. Even as just a description, that is so frick’n cool.
I'd pay good money to attend Mickey and Minnie's wedding. Seems like a fun idea, and a good opportunity for synergy and a unique event that would draw people into the parks. There could be a meet and greet with Minnie in her dress and Mickey in his tux, which would be a unique and cool photo-op.
Mickey Mouse Hotel seems great! Just not over a major highway. BUT the best idea was the year long celebration of Mickey & Minnies wedding.
I get the adult concept after thought. But, it’s a neat year long thought for three of the parks.
Even if it did sortuv sound like a commercial, I so would’ve watched the marriage of Mickey and Minnie!
Also, did you forget about WESTcot and Disney’s America?
I would love to see the hotel idea with the lifts in the legs.
I like the idea of mickey's kitchen. They'd rack up some money since most people are health conscious now a days, not to mention, I wouldn't mind a healthier burger and fries. Or a good salad. Add to that, a different themed restaurant, people love posting their experiences on social media. It's a win win
I would love to see a Mickey Mouse Hotel but instead in the shape of Mickey Mouse’s head. It’s such an iconic shape that if you were to make a hotel based off of him, there would be one thing that came to mind when thinking of it which is the 3 circles that form his head.
Boats on world show case lagoon
WESTCOT!!!!! or DISNEY SEA in LA
SO envious that Japan has one that the idea concept sounded so great and true. Sadly not anyone can admire this idea so it was shelved!.
What we are left is what we have!
To be honest a disney branded car that is super safe sounds great as long as it doesn't look like the cars in that 90s parade where the charactors heads were plastered on the hoods.
One failed idea that never got off the ground was a partnership between Disney and Vanguard Animation. Valiant supposed to be the beginning of a proposed 4 picture deal between Disney and Vanguard Animation.
I like the Mickey and Minnie getting married one, but I think it would work better as an animated feature.
I think the only one of those I'd like to see is a franchised Disney food chain like Mickey's Kitchen was. Maybe instead of crummy fast food it could be more like an ice cream shop or something.
Eisner and all he did was so interesting, if not a little weird and crazy