and if he anticipates your drive rush, and you anticipate his counter drive rush, and he anticipates your super cancel, and you anticipate his super cancel, and he anticipates your
Yeah the more you get into fgs the more you understand it’s not about the cool combos but how it works similarly to a chess game where you want to know how everything works and what are your best options for the next move
@@rexailos475 yeah, only thing that sucks is that there is a lot of rock paper scissors, that's why sonic cant consistently beat everyone's ass. luck is involved. If two people are blocking and one person jabs, if the second person jabs immediately after, they just get opened up for a free combo. Meanwhile the second person didn't see the first persons frames start.
@@MinecraftSurgethat's not luck, my son. That is downloading the opponent. And the reason sonic can't beat everyone is because the pros are no slouches here. This shit ain't free like nrs games
Great video, a lot of information in a short video with great pacing and visual effects. Do you have any intention to do more videos of how to deal with certain attacks / block strings / scenarios with the whole cast?
Thank you so much! I probably won't do videos like this that often. Most of my videos are either gonna be a general Luke guide or they're gonna be about how to deal with certain attacks with Luke specifically. But every now and then, I might make videos like this one.
Also it's kinda expensive but you can drive reversal it. It armor breaks, so you're pretty safe to do it in the corner if he's trying to do target combo into DI for the wall splat.
Late to this video but I was thinking of this in the car today. I know on twitter there was a tech for Ryu that let him do a like "mid-air crossup" against Honda buttslam. I haven't seen anything like it for Luke but I imagine it exists. If you know about it maybe do a video on it?
I tried it and it definitely works with Luke's jumping MK as well. He can combo into M or OD DP and Level 1 or 2 Super. I think I'll make a video on this tomorrow, thank you for the idea.
I love these videos because there's so much information that just sums up by saying "Yeah you can do all this but you're still F'd so I don't know, take it or leave it" Lukes biggest counter is his upcoming patch notes.
How are you F'd? Many characters can do a target combo into a safe fireball or safe special move. I'm not sure what the problem is here. This video simply shows that there's ways to punish autopilot cancels into sandblast. I agree that Luke is very strong and probably needs nerfs, but I try to encourage people to use counterplay in situations like these.
Unfortunately this is just fighting games. I get frustrated too sometimes, but I mean... if you could consistently beat all of Luke's TC options 100% of the time, how is he ever supposed to get any use out of it?
A zangief lose to me today because he uses level 3 while I’m charging heavy flash knuckles lol, I’m actually surprised it missed (cus I remember the hitbox was huge from my memory)
need a 'how to use slp' video -3, 7 frame start up, easily whiff punished, almost any instance cmp is just better I find it very hard to use and not really sure what its for
@@jeako777 your neutral guide says to check this video. Now in this video you're saying to check that video haha. Anyway, I get you can poke with it but from my experience, every other poke is better. You can't really confirm it, you're basically committed to the whole whole TC on block, which is poor option cause its not safe without meter. Zzz I guess I'll just have to not be lazy and figure out my own use for it lol.
@@casinoz8013 Yeah my bad, I just referred to the other video because I talked about how it's better when you have level 3 super or they're in burnout. I don't think it's a bad poke. It has noticeably more range than crMP. I sometimes use it to counterhit the opponent during their pressure, but only if I'm willing to cancel into DR. You kinda use it around the same range where you'd use crMK. It has a bit less range than crMK but is 1f faster. And with stLP TC, you don't need to cancel into DR if it hit, whereas with crMK, you're usually spending the meter either way. crMK hits low tho.
@@jeako777 oh ok.. ya I'm gonna have to experiment with it like that. Ppl are buffing cmk DR so much, it's really hard to get in range to use slp like cmk and not get clipped. But ill give it a shot, thx.
@jeako777 I honestly don't know. She feels untouchable. Her range just feels ridiculous. Then she does those stupid jabs that just never make it seem like it's my turn. Either I get stuck in this until I run out of meter or shoryuken and they block. Then I get grabbed twice and lose :/ like bruh Then other manons I have an easy time beating. The ones that spam the slide and ice skating kicks. But the ones that just turtle up and jab at, 3 character models away from me, type of ranges. They feel absolutely untouchable
@@sonic-bb Are you talking about her standing medium punch, the move that moves forward? Because her light attacks aren't really much different than other characters. She loses her turn after you block a medium punch, so your crouching medium punch will usually interrupt anything she tries to do after you block her medium punch. Shoryuken is way too risky in that situation.
@jeako777 yeah I think it might be her crouching medium. I honestly can't seem to get a turn. We either trade or she gets a counter hit on me :/ or she'll be too far for me crouching medium to hit
@@sonic-bb If she's too far for your crouching medium to reach, then her fast buttons won't reach either, except for standing medium punch. But since she moves forward during standing medium punch, your crouching medium punch will hit her. So unless she's very good at whiff punishing your crouching medium punch, I'd say there's not that much risk for you when using that move. These moves are way more annoying to deal with in burnout though
Thanks for the vid. It shows us how much of a coin toss this scenario is. The move is good enough with a Drive Rush cancel into jab for a true string and then OKI. I dunno why we're forced to guess even when he doesn't drive rush.
how do you pressure safely with Luke? I keep doing a poke into fireball sometimes mixing in that target combo trying to steal my turn back but I'm just getting smoked in rank against real defensive players. I'm new and got placed in diamond so I'm up and down.
You will almost always lose your turn after fireballs and most pokes besides cr MP and cr LP. However, st HP into heavy fireball is REALLY good, especially in the corner. If you space it, you’re slightly plus, so you keep your turn. You can often loop it and it‘s hard to deal with. Other than that, you could of course use Drive Rush to continue your pressure.
Oh yeah and you could try Heavy Charged Knuckle every now and then, especially if you have Level 3 Super or if they‘re in burnout. But it‘s really easy to react to with Drive Impact most of the time. Btw, if you‘re the kind of player who loves pressure, maybe try Ken or Rashid when he comes out. They have good specials for adding pressure
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I dont even know i have that many option for that target combo. I can spam it even more now thx! Forcing opponent to play my little rock paper scissors is fun
Perfect parry is always an option yes, although the timing will change depending on which version of sandblast Luke used. I didn't include it in this video because it's not easy to do.
All these target combos from lukes are just huge guessing games then? Theres no way to punish it for real? Seems weirdo because they have too much range to be that safe.
Whether I would consider it an overall safe move or not really depends on who he's fighting. Characters with OD reversals can give this move a tough time, but characters without OD reversals need to play the Drive Impact guessing game when they have no level 2/3 super available. It's similar to how Ken's Jinrai Kick is amazing vs chars without OD reversals, but much worse vs chars that have one.
ken's jinrai arent a guessing game until he has level 3 as long as you can react to the canceling of the normal (its the same answer for whatever he's canceling onto) , its just annoying and brain dead. This luke's thing is, if you dont have an compatible EX to interrupt. And even if you have an EX that interrupts the randomness, its just quite worth, i mean, its a pretty decent trade for luke, eating away half the opponent's drive bar... That kind of char design just makes me mad. It throws the matchup's neutral out of the window, and this game is hella fun to play neutral. @@jeako777
@@gxmcdg I disagree with it being a good trade off for Luke. Maybe if it's gonna put the other player in burnout. There's a reason why high level Luke players don't poke with this target combo that much.
@@jeako777 it's fairly similar to Jinrai kicks where it has different versions to throw people off or can stop it early and risk being negative. I'll try to incorporate the counter play options from the video next time I play a Luke tho thanks. I was usually opting for DI but sometimes would get counter DI. I play Guile and didn't know I could just fk at the end.
@jeanmelisca every character does not have invincible reversals. Now tou have to think before sticking random button out. It has toned down flowchart play.
I would like to say that if you do the OD shoulder the OD dp won't work, however, Juri, Ken, Ryu and Rashid will win since is multihit. It is a mind game against this tech. I thought that is good to know🦾
You can also just Drive Reversal against it! It‘s guaranteed and you don‘t have to deal with him cancelling into Drive Rush.
I love how clearly you explain all the options while keeping the video short and sweet. Great job man! Would love to see more from you
As a luke player, take this video down bro XD
This is good for us Luke players too, actually! Now we can see what the counterplay is and add more layers.
@@Demonstormlord ya i was about to say, this is tight, I know what to options they have to snuff me out, that's tight.
Luke players unite!
Foh you scrub
@@doomkid360 I think you think that's something. Not sure what it is tho. Might it be loose?
I love your videos man. The editing with the visual on screen helps a lot too, appreciate it!
and if he anticipates your drive rush, and you anticipate his counter drive rush, and he anticipates your super cancel, and you anticipate his super cancel, and he anticipates your
That‘s fighting games for ya 😂
Yeah the more you get into fgs the more you understand it’s not about the cool combos but how it works similarly to a chess game where you want to know how everything works and what are your best options for the next move
That's when you bust out the drive reversal
@@rexailos475 yeah, only thing that sucks is that there is a lot of rock paper scissors, that's why sonic cant consistently beat everyone's ass. luck is involved. If two people are blocking and one person jabs, if the second person jabs immediately after, they just get opened up for a free combo. Meanwhile the second person didn't see the first persons frames start.
@@MinecraftSurgethat's not luck, my son. That is downloading the opponent. And the reason sonic can't beat everyone is because the pros are no slouches here. This shit ain't free like nrs games
as a luke main this makes more sense why im getting bodied in upper platinum. great vid as always.
You've got a subscriber. Thanks for the great video! Am a JP player by the way.
Wow thanks for the helpful video since i plan to main Cammy and Luke if i bought this game....
A very thorough guide. Thanks :)
Great video, a lot of information in a short video with great pacing and visual effects. Do you have any intention to do more videos of how to deal with certain attacks / block strings / scenarios with the whole cast?
Thank you so much! I probably won't do videos like this that often. Most of my videos are either gonna be a general Luke guide or they're gonna be about how to deal with certain attacks with Luke specifically. But every now and then, I might make videos like this one.
@@jeako777 Fair enough, thanks for the reply, and once more - good stuff!
Also it's kinda expensive but you can drive reversal it. It armor breaks, so you're pretty safe to do it in the corner if he's trying to do target combo into DI for the wall splat.
great video! thanks for the information!
Late to this video but I was thinking of this in the car today. I know on twitter there was a tech for Ryu that let him do a like "mid-air crossup" against Honda buttslam. I haven't seen anything like it for Luke but I imagine it exists. If you know about it maybe do a video on it?
I tried it and it definitely works with Luke's jumping MK as well. He can combo into M or OD DP and Level 1 or 2 Super. I think I'll make a video on this tomorrow, thank you for the idea.
This video sold me more on Luke as a character lol
Incredibly based music choice.
What's the song?
I love these videos because there's so much information that just sums up by saying "Yeah you can do all this but you're still F'd so I don't know, take it or leave it" Lukes biggest counter is his upcoming patch notes.
How are you F'd? Many characters can do a target combo into a safe fireball or safe special move. I'm not sure what the problem is here. This video simply shows that there's ways to punish autopilot cancels into sandblast.
I agree that Luke is very strong and probably needs nerfs, but I try to encourage people to use counterplay in situations like these.
Unfortunately this is just fighting games. I get frustrated too sometimes, but I mean... if you could consistently beat all of Luke's TC options 100% of the time, how is he ever supposed to get any use out of it?
Amazing video! Quick and to the point.
By any chance could do a similar video for JPs block string?
Can't promise but thank you for the idea!
A zangief lose to me today because he uses level 3 while I’m charging heavy flash knuckles lol, I’m actually surprised it missed (cus I remember the hitbox was huge from my memory)
So with Kimberly you only option against od sandblast is level 3 or drive reversal?
Yo, the standing block is a game changer. I’m ready to start training Luke’s to get wrecked (hopefully)
So what do u do as manon. Spinning is risky and her reversal doesnt work which is a super
How does having a gap help for the target combo
Gap helps for doing drive impact, level 2 super and level 3 super.
@@jeako777 ty
need a 'how to use slp' video
-3, 7 frame start up, easily whiff punished, almost any instance cmp is just better
I find it very hard to use and not really sure what its for
I talked about it in my neutral guide
@@jeako777
your neutral guide says to check this video. Now in this video you're saying to check that video haha.
Anyway, I get you can poke with it but from my experience, every other poke is better. You can't really confirm it, you're basically committed to the whole whole TC on block, which is poor option cause its not safe without meter. Zzz I guess I'll just have to not be lazy and figure out my own use for it lol.
@@casinoz8013 Yeah my bad, I just referred to the other video because I talked about how it's better when you have level 3 super or they're in burnout.
I don't think it's a bad poke. It has noticeably more range than crMP. I sometimes use it to counterhit the opponent during their pressure, but only if I'm willing to cancel into DR. You kinda use it around the same range where you'd use crMK. It has a bit less range than crMK but is 1f faster. And with stLP TC, you don't need to cancel into DR if it hit, whereas with crMK, you're usually spending the meter either way. crMK hits low tho.
@@jeako777 oh ok.. ya I'm gonna have to experiment with it like that. Ppl are buffing cmk DR so much, it's really hard to get in range to use slp like cmk and not get clipped. But ill give it a shot, thx.
Hi, I watched all your videos about sf6. Could you please make videos about dealing with Dhalsim Blanka and Honda ?
If I figure out how to do that myself, sure 😂
i need a match up guide for luke vs manon. if youre willing to help us out :)
Any specific problems you have in that matchup? I don't think I'll make a whole matchup video
@jeako777 I honestly don't know. She feels untouchable. Her range just feels ridiculous. Then she does those stupid jabs that just never make it seem like it's my turn. Either I get stuck in this until I run out of meter or shoryuken and they block. Then I get grabbed twice and lose :/ like bruh
Then other manons I have an easy time beating. The ones that spam the slide and ice skating kicks.
But the ones that just turtle up and jab at, 3 character models away from me, type of ranges. They feel absolutely untouchable
@@sonic-bb Are you talking about her standing medium punch, the move that moves forward? Because her light attacks aren't really much different than other characters. She loses her turn after you block a medium punch, so your crouching medium punch will usually interrupt anything she tries to do after you block her medium punch. Shoryuken is way too risky in that situation.
@jeako777 yeah I think it might be her crouching medium. I honestly can't seem to get a turn. We either trade or she gets a counter hit on me :/ or she'll be too far for me crouching medium to hit
@@sonic-bb If she's too far for your crouching medium to reach, then her fast buttons won't reach either, except for standing medium punch. But since she moves forward during standing medium punch, your crouching medium punch will hit her.
So unless she's very good at whiff punishing your crouching medium punch, I'd say there's not that much risk for you when using that move.
These moves are way more annoying to deal with in burnout though
Thanks for the vid. It shows us how much of a coin toss this scenario is. The move is good enough with a Drive Rush cancel into jab for a true string and then OKI. I dunno why we're forced to guess even when he doesn't drive rush.
how do you pressure safely with Luke? I keep doing a poke into fireball sometimes mixing in that target combo trying to steal my turn back but I'm just getting smoked in rank against real defensive players. I'm new and got placed in diamond so I'm up and down.
You will almost always lose your turn after fireballs and most pokes besides cr MP and cr LP. However, st HP into heavy fireball is REALLY good, especially in the corner. If you space it, you’re slightly plus, so you keep your turn. You can often loop it and it‘s hard to deal with. Other than that, you could of course use Drive Rush to continue your pressure.
Oh yeah and you could try Heavy Charged Knuckle every now and then, especially if you have Level 3 Super or if they‘re in burnout. But it‘s really easy to react to with Drive Impact most of the time.
Btw, if you‘re the kind of player who loves pressure, maybe try Ken or Rashid when he comes out. They have good specials for adding pressure
@@jeako777 Cool thanks for the response. I'll check ken out. Sounds like I need to learn the game and be patient.
@@jeako777 ⁰p⁰00
What can Zangief do?
Drive Impact, Level 2 Super, Level 3 Super, maybe a charged stHP as well because of the armor
Neat.
This actually gave me less hope of dealing with Luke. I can't wait for a balance patch.
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I'm sorry, I tried fixing it but it still doesn't seem to work.
@@jeako777 Thanks anyway. this is either buggy or a system problem that I hope RUclips will fix soon.
You on PlayStation?
No PC
@@jeako777 I think PlayStation plays the best on this game right
@@aravindashok6809 Not sure, sorry
@@jeako777 get a ps5 too :) hood system
@@aravindashok6809 I'm too broke 🤣
Those strings need to be nerfed why is he allow to cancel after?
I dont even know i have that many option for that target combo. I can spam it even more now thx! Forcing opponent to play my little rock paper scissors is fun
wouldn't standing the last hit then perfect parry be best
Perfect parry is always an option yes, although the timing will change depending on which version of sandblast Luke used.
I didn't include it in this video because it's not easy to do.
Thank you bro, luke is so annoying
All these target combos from lukes are just huge guessing games then? Theres no way to punish it for real? Seems weirdo because they have too much range to be that safe.
Whether I would consider it an overall safe move or not really depends on who he's fighting. Characters with OD reversals can give this move a tough time, but characters without OD reversals need to play the Drive Impact guessing game when they have no level 2/3 super available.
It's similar to how Ken's Jinrai Kick is amazing vs chars without OD reversals, but much worse vs chars that have one.
ken's jinrai arent a guessing game until he has level 3 as long as you can react to the canceling of the normal (its the same answer for whatever he's canceling onto) , its just annoying and brain dead. This luke's thing is, if you dont have an compatible EX to interrupt. And even if you have an EX that interrupts the randomness, its just quite worth, i mean, its a pretty decent trade for luke, eating away half the opponent's drive bar... That kind of char design just makes me mad. It throws the matchup's neutral out of the window, and this game is hella fun to play neutral. @@jeako777
@@gxmcdg I disagree with it being a good trade off for Luke. Maybe if it's gonna put the other player in burnout. There's a reason why high level Luke players don't poke with this target combo that much.
So basically Luke is busted to set up this much of a guessing game for a free target combo with no meter
If you have a DP or you're Marisa, you can deal with it pretty well. And I wouldn't call it free because he often needs to cancel into OD sandblast
@@jeako777 it's fairly similar to Jinrai kicks where it has different versions to throw people off or can stop it early and risk being negative. I'll try to incorporate the counter play options from the video next time I play a Luke tho thanks. I was usually opting for DI but sometimes would get counter DI. I play Guile and didn't know I could just fk at the end.
@@jeako777what if u dont have those
@@polkunus Then you have to guess what Luke is gonna do and use one of the options I mentioned in the video
Drive impact is the worst thing about this game.
It is a great tool to stop people from mindlessly attacking.
@@AllFlashNoDash EX moves already do that.
@@jeanmeliscawhat are u talking about. DI is the easiest and most basic part of this game. Are u hardstuck?
@jeanmelisca every character does not have invincible reversals. Now tou have to think before sticking random button out. It has toned down flowchart play.
I would like to say that if you do the OD shoulder the OD dp won't work, however, Juri, Ken, Ryu and Rashid will win since is multihit. It is a mind game against this tech. I thought that is good to know🦾
I didn't think about that, great point. Thank you!
@@jeako777 YW I'm a Luke main too