Memories are odd. I remembered as a kid, getting chased across the yard and being bitten in the leg by the neighbor's German Shepherd. About 20 years later, I recounted this story to my mother and she corrected me on one single fact. It was a poodle.
I remember discussing one of the early episodes of Mythbusters one day in the high school cafeteria. The problem: I was class of 99 and Mythbusters premiered in 2003
People with the gift for gab, especially TV personalities, will tell personal stories so it is entertaining, even if it is fictionalizing some parts of the story. ie it is 85% true.
This is just a random question, what if you (the pilot) really can’t get a good night sleep. Some of these flights are 6 or 7 in the morning, what do you do?
Captain comes on the intercom ... "folks we had an engine failure, but we've got one left. We'll be getting you home late by several hours". Drunk ass-hole jumps up and yells ... "Dam .... if that second engine goes out, we'll be up here all day!!"
It has been awhile since I checked the feed. I see four stripes on the shoulder boards where I remembered three in the last video I saw. Congratulations!
My cousin survived flight 232 DC-10 that crashed in Sioux City, Iowa in '89. He was 9 and travelling alone from his fathers to his mother in chicago. His section came to rest upside down. He was uninjured. Two men grabbed him hanging from his seat belt and saved him. Oprah wanted to fly him to L.A. for her survivor show, but he declined another flight.
From Wikipedia : On 17 October 2001, Pakistan International Airlines flight 231, an Airbus A300, from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway after the right hand main landing gear collapsed as it touched down. The aircraft skidded and eventually came to rest in sand 50 meters from the runway. The aircraft sustained damage to its right wing structure and right engine, which partly broke off the wing. All 205 crew and passengers (which included high profile American political commentator and talk show host Tucker Carlson and his father Dick Carlson) evacuated safely
I'm not in the industry, but PK231 is an Airbus A320 that was active in 2022, and I think it's highly unlikely they reused the flight number of a destroyed aircraft.
Especially considering tucker Carlson is a putin lapdog shill liar, who will say *WHATEVER* his handlers say. He got fired right after Fox "news" paid nearly 800 million in settlement to avoid court. _Think about it_
From IATA safety report 2001, Appendix E, 17. "During the approach to Dubai, when the undercarriage was selected down there was a ‘loud bang.’ The approach was continued but, on touchdown, the aircraft’s right main undercarriage reportedly collapsed. The aircraft veered to the right and ran off the side of the runway."
He was half drunk in a stressful situation. He should have listened to the flight attendant, who was likely trying to get people off the plane without a panic rush for the exits.
So he was drunk and is misremembering or he is exaggerating to the point of lying. He didn’t cost his network $787.5 Mio because he was drunk and misremembered things, though…
I always respect and enjoy your analysis. My father was a pilot, learned to fly in the mid-''30's, and was a flight instructor for the Navy during WWII. A few years after the war ended, he went to work for United Air Lines at their maintenance base near San Francisco. He applied to become a pilot for them, but they found he was slightly color blind, and wouldn't hire him in that capacity. UAL had a flying club where employees could learn to fly, and he became their chief flight instructor on week ends, and at UAL, finally ended up in their engineering department. You remind me of him. He was very methodical and factual like you are when discussing anything pertaining to aviation. I just want to let you know how much I enjoy your videos. If he were still with us today, I just know he would also enjoy your videos.
PIA 8303 made me so angry it's unreal how much disregard for safety pilots can have. Ignoring a multitude of alarms, ATC and performing a goaround after a belly landing...
My father once got in a state because he said he saw part of the wing falling off. My mother pointed out that it was just the flaps moving as normal...
I don't suppose he was on the plane that had gremlins crawling all over the wings while a very upset character played by William Shatner goes into a panic? (Sorry, Had a Twilight Zone moment.)
This all sounds like the conversation I have with my mechanic when something dreadfully goes wrong with my car. He usually politely smiles as I tell him what I think happened to the engine and I am almost never right.
I had a 1996 Taurus that would intermittently fail to start--the engine just wouldn't turn over, but I could get it going by tapping on the starter. I asked a family member's coworker, a "gear-jammer chick" who owns a Corvette and does her own oil changes with low-height ramps to get more of the oil to drain, and she told me, "Yeah, on an old Taurus, your problem is a bad starter. The starters go out on those cars." So I make a service appointment and drove it to the local Ford dealer, hinting that a family friend indicated trouble with the starter, and the tech smiled and said, "We'll check this out." I get a call an hour later, and not only was it deemed to be the starter, the tech had stranded the car in the dealership parking lot "checking it out." I felt like saying, "Yeah, what does this old lady who drives a Corvette and does her own oil changes with low-height ramps know, she is just a girl", but I kept the thought to myself.
That's what makes me cringe about car trouble advice people give on facebook. "Same thing happened to my car - buy a new starter and alternator and that'll fix it"!!!! 🤣
Any time I'm going to a professional about something in a field that I don't know much about, I try to be very clear about my actual observations vs my best guess at what they actually mean. My observations are important, but my interpretation is completely useless except as a sidelight on my observations. Twice so far I've walked into a GP's office and said, look I'm not here to diagnose myself, but the short version is that I have the symptoms of pneumonia. First time it was pneumonia, second time it was bronchitis. In both cases, "the symptoms of pneumonia" was a good way to sum up my observations.
PERFECT Timing! I saw that speech, and went - HOW HAS NO ONE Done a Report on this flight?? And even now with yours, there is only 1 document showing info, and a few pictures of the plane after. Crazy.
Kelsey, you just keep getting better and better! My skin hurts because I was glued to my computer screen. Excellent analysis, summary, conclusion, and educated guesses! I love intelligent RUclips channels like this one.
My father, who flew a lot for his job when I was younger, once was on a flight on a four-engine plane (not sure if jet or propeller) when he looked out the window and saw one of the engines fall off. There was silence from the cockpit for a couple of minutes, and then the pilot came on and drawled: "Well folks, it looks like we're going to make the flight without engine number 3."
I saw a video documentary about a plane that survived an emergency landing on the tarmac, but a ferocious fire was ablaze in the rear of the passenger cabin. Instead of listening to the crew and evacuating immediately without possessions, the front passengers were calmly opening the overhead bins to get their stuff, blocking the rear passengers escaping. Those rear passengers burned to death!
Dad was born in 1896. He saw early aviation. Refused to fly most of his life. I convinced him to fly to visit the kids. To distract him during the flight we played gin rummy. First time I could actually win once in a while.
@@afridgetoofar1818 My money is on OP being from Bull Caca Island. Fun fact! There is still a grandchild of President John Tyler still alive! President Tyler was born in 1790 and died in 1862.
@Anna_Xor - I immediately thought of John Tyler’s grandchild when i read this lol. So yeah it could be possible there is something similar here, where the Dad was born in 1896, and had @BB-iq4su when he was 60 or 70, so 1956-1966, making them now 60 or 70 as well. Or yeah maybe their dad had them at regular age and they really are 100 haha.
I believe bin Laden was in Afghanistan at that time, hence the US invasion? He later escaped to Pakistan where he was protected by the Pakistani government (our "ally") for many years.
"One of aviation’s most loved people!“ 😂 Maybe a hint of some sarcasm there, I don’t know… 🤣🤣🤣 (Probably on of the "most loved" persons by everyone standing in a security check queue, too… 🙃 )
Tucker wiil be the first to admit his mistakes unlike the mainstream media. If I was drunk in the same situation right after 911, my fear and recollection would be fuzzy too.
The question is; what are you going to do about it ? You have our blessing & permit to use & send this letter to Senators, House Rep., Judges & Church people: The Republicans & their, supporters are great people but among them are sadly too many that are naive & deceived by Trump acting as if he is a nationalist that cares about the USA while indirectly, encourages over 190 nations to arm themselves with nuclear weapons in secrete, since the USA that disarmed Ukraine of it's nuclear arsenal in exchange of granting it's sovereignty & security, proves (if Trump gets elected) would prove that the USA can not be trusted with any pact or agreement granting any sovereignty or anything that the USA signs about anything whatsoever, since granting by words but not by deeds is not granting but deceit & hypocrisy. 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If the USA desire to walk back on it's agreement, or abandon that treaty, then has the obligation to arm back Ukraine with it's nuclear arsenal. We are here to testify and to grant you that D E F E C T I N G (defecting) on the agreement without arming back the Atheo-Judeo-Christian people of Ukraine with the nuclear deterrent weapons of preventing their enslavement and genocide of millions of them by Russia as was done in the past, in Russia's Siberian gulags, WILL ACTIVATE OUR GOD'S RETALIATION through his established biblical curses, AGAINST THE USA, THE SAME AND AS MUCH IF THE USA TAKES MEASURES AGAINST ISRAEL which is also the established world-wide headquarters of the Spiritual Israel of Christians, MessiYah-nic, Agnostics and Jews and even Atheists, while Muslims headquarters are in Mecca in which Christians, Jews and Atheists are NOT allowed to reside, worship or live, and the Catholics headquarters is in the tiny city Vatican, that is smaller in land than a small town or than an American village. THE BIBLICAL CURSES WILL GET ACTIVATED ALSO AGAINST EVERYONE WHO'S MIND IS SET AGAINST UKRAINE WHICH IS TO BE USED BY OUR LORD'S WILL, as an ALLY OF ISRAEL WHEN MAGOG-RUSSIA, TURKEY & IRAN with other nations will start the walk toward Armageddon against IsraEL of the Eternal ELoHim YHWH, 'EL' of IsraEL. Make your move, since the invisible little steps starts now, and the players are invisible powers to which you are only a pawn unless you are truly spiritually born again adopted child of our Lord and friend of The Divine MessiYah, able to see and understand what is revealed to you, while others have no understanding. Trump parrots Putin's propaganda to keep fear mongering with nukes his own nation, . . .like a repetitive parrot, that keeps twitting to his own people "nuke, nuke, nuke, nuke, bla bla bla bla", WW3, WW3, desperate of not being able to scare his own nation into submission & to his praised Putin - "Putin is smart". Are you ready to deliver Ukraine in Putin's hands? - Then be ready to deliver Alaska as well you hypocrite. All nations are watching. Putin made public on the Russian TV (against the USA) and through decrees that Alaska is a Russian territory (probably after hearing about the Alaskan hidden [classified] gold mountain backing the US dollar), from Alaska's huge national park). Putin and his mafia said that Alaska must be returned to Russia and that Russia won't stop until enters Berlin (back in Germany). They made no secrete since they spoke openly about on Russia's TV channels. Carlson Tucker knows of Putin and Russia's official claim and decree about Alaska ( which is no different than the decree of annexing even Ukrainian territories that Russia never got control of,) while also claiming Alaska still belongs to Russia and that Russia will take it back sooner or later. Tucker being treasonous and unpatriotic while deceitfully claiming the opposite, remains silent concerning Russia's claim about Alaska, yet still firm pro-Russia, for his own selfish gain. BEHOLD SOME VIDEOS concerning Russia about Alaska. See the document signed by Putin about Alaska as being a Russian land to be taken back to Russia. See on RUclips at minute 12 : 55 the document video TITLE: Putin Declared Alaska occupied by the U.S. | Ukraine War Update AT THE MINUTE: 12 : 55 could see document. & vid.on RUclips : US State Dept Responds To Russian President Putin’s Claim Over Alaska | Dawn News English AND on RUclips - CHINA UNCENSORED: Tucker’s Putin Interview Blows Up in His Face . AND also RUclips video at minute 10 :50 of the video titled: Day 740: Ukraïnian Map . NATO was created not to invade Russia (as Tucker justified Putin's acted paranoia or DECEIT), but to stop Russia from invading any UN recognized nations especially in Europe, and clearly it does not do the job, (at least so far did not), now when Russia is planing to invade even more neighboring countries like it did in the past other nations invaded and kept inside by force in the Russian Federation and most recently the invaded parts of Moldova, Georgia, and Ukraine and more to follow for Russian invasion of Atheo-Judeo-Christian countries pro-democracy of Atheists, Jews, & Christians, to be subdued, enslaved by the Fascist Russian Federation of genocide and other evil. If you apply Carlson Tucker's logic from his speech that because of crimes and drugs and rapes in the USA and supposedly 'a weak or bad economy' supporting or starting a war is not good - then applied to the world war ww2, because was bad for the USA economy to go to war against the German Nazis, and because in the USA had then also cities infected with crimes, drugs, rapes and 'a weak or bad economy' even then during the WW2, the USA should have NOT gone to war, therefore let UK, France, the rest of Europe and Russia to be taken by Germany and Italy which were in the way to rule the oceans of the earth (especially the Atlantic) in the detriment of the USA, (if it were not for the USA to enter the war) and sink the German U boats and submarines, and prevent the Nazi to take over Europe or Euro-Asia. Yet according to Putin's Russia TV channels broadcasts in the last two years, Russia plans to do the same like Hitler, together with China (if gets victory in Ukraine), and Trump & Tucker seems to be OK with that (maybe they are undercover Nazis), while deceitfully are denying Kremlin's ambition. Trump praises Putin saying Putin is smart, "the smart Putin" who keeps killing children, babies and mothers giving birth to babies in Ukrainian hospitals bombed at the order of the murderer criminal genocidal Putin that keeps bombing civilian buildings, supermarkets, restaurants, theaters, hospitals, schools, and kindergartens with no trace of soldiers in them, situated hundred miles away from the front and from any military bases and weapons. Trump's speeches are testifying for his desire and love of dictatorship since Russia's & North Korea's dictators are praised by Trump as being "smart men". Trump's fall that could be brought against the USA, comes from Trump greed for power, & a deceitful claim of representing the Christians, and from the contamination with Tucker's twisted deceitful propaganda pro-Russia and pro-dictators, that have set Trump as an example to be followed by many other criminals in the USA and across the world for > 'a hell of a future on earth'
I wonder if the "engines surging" noise he heard were just the thrust reversers, since all this happened after touchdown (not mid-air as he made his audience believe)
He was drunk too so maybe the force he thought he felt and thought it was because the wing came off was just the fact that the landing gear broke and that caused one wing to hit the ground etc. This would also make sense for a flight attendant to say just stay in place because maybe nothing serious was going on and the engine never failed in the air but got destroyed after they were on the ground and the landing gear broke. He was drunk so maybe he didn't even know they had ever touched down. The last person you want to ask about what happened was a drunk person.
@@Phoenix-Cloud Yeah, very possible that the alcohol and panic made things feel / sound worse than they were, but I also believe he's intentionally exaggerating the story to shock his audience and show off. Like when he says he disobeyed the flight attendendant and just went ahead and opened the door & deployed the chute by himself. The big hero of the day :))
Every single thing Kelsey reported that Tucker said can be explained in a more reasonable way, explosion could be the landing gear breaking in the wing touching down, the engines revving up or probably the reverse thrusters because no landing gear means no brakes so there’s that. The petrified impersonation of the “male flight attendant” it’s because in tuckers mind that’s a woman’s job… And everything in fact was OK… so instead of probably bankrupting the airline by extending one of their slides when they probably could’ve just driven a set of stairs to the other side… and they really think Tucker is this big hero who opened the door?… he was prob crying in his seat. Honestly 🙄
@@langr752 Haha. Exactly. The flight attendant was likely doing his job trying to prevent a panic / stampede. From what I can see in the pictures, there was minimal or no fire at all and the aircraft came to rest in a pretty stable position, so there was no need for passengers to jump out of their seats and run for the exits. Only this buffoon did... (if he's even telling the truth about that part).
@@langr752I question his claim of opening the door and deploying the slide. I think it’s more likely he was being hysterical and shouting to open the door so the flight attendant was trying to reassure him.
FYI: it was Pakistani International Airlines *(PIA) Flight 231, 17 Oct. 2001* ... ZERO fatalities, but still a very dangerous runway "excursion" and main gear collapse, actual fire... well documented.
A quick check of ASN says that the right main landing collapsed on landing. I'm sure that collapse would sound like an explosion to a passenger if they've never had that happen.
If that’s the flight his memory is way off because everything was after the plane landed he said something exploded there was a flight PIA-305 months before that match his story with something exploded same air plane type but he said after 9/11 which would be PIA-231 so a lot of his story not matching up
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 ABSOLUTELY. Tucker wouldn't embellish something to make it seem different than what it really was, or just make up shit completely!
@@mickonewell1596there was a Washington Post article about it published Oct 18, 2001. Tucker Carlson was on Flight 231. If he had just told the truth about what happened, it would have been a cool story to tell. The crew were incompetent and just failed to do their jobs. The article even says Carlson was the one that opened the door. But it was Flight 231 with a landing gear collapse, not a wing falling off mid-flight lmao
I found it and it’s nothing like Tucker stated 😂 October 17 2021 is when it happened it stated “Flight PK231 from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway at Dubai after the right hand maingear collapsed as it touched down. The aircraft skidded and eventually came to rest in sand 50 metres from the runway. The aircraft sustained damage to its right wing structure and its no. 2 engine, which partly broke off the wing.” Because I found a thing from the New York Times about someone who was setting with Tucker in the front of the plane
1:10 Tucker says "22 years ago this month" - assuming he made this speech recently - it would have occurred in the early 2000s - another commenter pinpoints "17 October 2001, Pakistan International Airlines flight 231"
@@MarinoMoons - probably? he would have had to in order to correctly describe the incident in 2001 - do you have a problem with people correcting errors - whatever the nature - and avoiding misdirecting readers
I'd say it matches enough to be identifiable, factoring in that Tucker was drunk and had terrible situational awareness; i.e. couldn't tell he was on the ground, the gear from the hold, or what the crew were doing. And of course had to be the hero of his tall tale, with a racist spin.
One reason why you should probably listen to your flight attendant is that if you have to evacuate and there's panic and nobody is following instructions, people will block the aisles and exits, fighting on who gets out first and it will stop people getting out at all. There was an accident being investigated where they couldn't understand why it was not possible to evacuate the plane in the amount of time they had. They ran an experiment a couple of times and everybody was orderly and everybody got off. Then they decided to offer $$$ to the first 20 people who get out and saw a completely different result where the exits got blocked and they were not able to evacuate in time.
@@charisma-hornum-friesExactly, the 2014 Asiana crash in California had that cited as a reason for delayed escape, people were bringing their bags with them! You are basically putting the value of those objects over other people's lives.
@@paulstimpson830 You're right, it's an overall problem. It has gotten so extreme. The number of people in this country who think it is ok to shoot someone for accidentally walking into their yard is very disturbing.
One US Navy deck crewman survived being sucked into the engine of an A-6. There's video of it and of him post-accident. I bet he's still embarrassed to this day.
Flight PK-231 from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway at Dubai after the right-hand main landing gear collapsed as it touched down. The aircraft skidded and eventually came to rest in sand 50 meters away from the runway. The aircraft sustained damage to its right wing structure and its no.2 engine, which partly broke off the wing. According to a press release by UAE's General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA), the approach and landing of the aircraft was normal. But during the landing roll, the aircraft left the right side of the runway at slow speed and came to rest on the un-prepared surface 50 meters away from the runway facing 90 degree to the landing direction. All 193 passengers and 11 crew were evacuated safely. The 21 passengers suffering slight injuries were treated at Dubai Airport's medical center. Investigation by GCAA reveals failure of the right main landing gear as the main cause of accident.
As I said before Tucker Carlson made his living LYING , so in my mind he has ZERO credibility to begin with. Just more lies and BS from a low life scumbag.
This is the politest way ever I've heard of telling someone that they were drunk and have been exaggerating what happened for dramatic effect. Thanks for your diplomacy, @74 Gear. 🙂👍
It's not like you can trust anything that guy says anyway. Doesn't matter if he was drunk or not. He's literally a professional liar, and was fired for letting himself get caught via his text message admissions.
If i remember correctly, joke intended, every time you recount a memory, you're actually remembering the last time you remembered the story, not the actual story itself, so the further in time you go, the more layers you add on top of the original memory. Its like an overlay, every time you remmeber a memory, you're pulling up the last time you recounted the memory, thus adding another layer of overlay. This, as you can tell, can start creating a crazy game of telaphone, and thats how you can have such a twisted version of the memory, many years later.
@@johneyon5257 yea super interesting. I believe the science that provided this information was conducted because they needed to know how trustworthy a witness testimony could be in court, and the science showed that you recount the last time you remembered the incident, versus the actual incident. So as time passes by, little pieces of information can change and become cemented into the story, and the person telling the story will think they're telling the truth but it's slightly altered
Pretty much accurate. We're continuously interpreting what happens and trying to adjust it to mean we did what we meant to do - but the only part we control is our idea of what we meant. Telling a tale reinforces whatever tale made it out.
Especially if you recall the story a lot I think and tell it to a lot of people? You’re constantly adding layers, sometimes for dramatic event and sometimes humorous.
If you want a separate, contemporary perspective from another source on the plane, you can read the "Reliable Source" article written by LLoyd Grove from 18 Oct 2001. He interviewed Tuckers dad, Dick Carlson, who was sitting immediately beside Tucker on that flight. As you noted, two people from the same chaotic event each had a different understanding of exactly what was happening ... but they both agreed that the plane crashed. Dick's version is more consistent with the images you show at the close of your vid (which isn't surprising since he was interviewed the day after the crash, and maybe he wasn't half drunk during the event).
Oh, so he was in the middle east with his CIA daddy, nothing suspicious about that. I do not like TV readers. when they go off script it gets messy, take his champagne away!
No crash, unless you count running slightly off the runway a crash. The IATA report is an actual reliable source and a few commenters have posted an extract from the report summary. It does meet the threshold for an accident though.
@@The_ZeroLine - Saying it wasn't a crash is like saying you didn't crash when you run your car into a ditch, total the right side of the car, and hit hard enough to break its engine mount. It's just a scratch, that'll buff right out. It is possible to crash a plane without it falling out of the air. Plus 50 meters off the runway for a 100,000+ KG aircraft isn't slightly off the runway. Making something that size, and with that much weight go 50 meters in any direction other than where you want it is a significant problem, and most certainly a crash.
The incident occurred on 17 October 2001. The 'double ought' A-300 suffered a landing gear collapse on touchdown. The wing did partially break off, but it was on the ground. The sensation of flying sideways was probably sliding around on the ground. I'd imagine if an A-300 exploded in mid air and then ended up landing safely with one wing partially detached, we would know more about the incident.
We deal with this type of stress all the time in law enforcement. You are spot on Kelsey. The ,"Oh $hit" moment is called the Startle Flinch. It can last a second, or it can last minutes (Fight, flight or freeze). Sully was actually successful in making the FAA take the Startle Flinch into account during the Potomac investigation when the FAA was claiming that the flight should have been able to return. It made all the difference. You're also very right about high stress recall. Good job explaining this Kelsey!! 👍
My adult son says “just do something” meaning don’t freeze. I’m guessing statists show freezing causes the most injuries or casualties in an emergency. Easier said than done for most people.
This is a highly complex problem that I had the misfortune of experiencing 20 yrs ago. After the hydraulics on a huge machine failed I was certain of my chances of climbing out of trouble, but physics and gravity were laws unbroken, my pelvis was slowly crushed from left to right, down to about 4 inches. I had the experience of questioning the whole Universe after my initial slip back into the pinch point and lost any advantage I held. My main memory is an experience of surreal peace with diminishing pain over a period of about 10 seconds, but I can't piece together the time between " this won't work...and...Oh sh*t ". Time and space were seemingly interchangeable and the out of body sense was, I suspect, the brains best attempt to manage death, pain, fear and the feeling of being grossly mutilated, preceded by confidence. It was just another day at work, how could I be faced with death? This is not happening! This can"t be true. In fact the only word I said was "NO!"
@@StalwartPikeman Yes, thanks. All the bone, muscle and skin regrew rapidly but decades later, nerves are still coming back to life, that and damaged cartilage are the only true limitations after an encounter with overwhelming forces. Then there are post trauma mental hurdles that fortunately diminish, given time, but that particular shade of yellow on heavy machinery still gives my soul a good shake. Take care...
When this plane landed it veered off the runway when the right main landing gear detached.The plane ended up in sand 50 metres off the runway. The right wing had damage and the right side engine partly broke off the wing. 205 crew and passengers all evacuated safely with no engines.
That’s far less dramatic, but makes much more sense. I guess loud bang becomes explosion when youre “half drunk”. Never been half drunk myself (being a Finn), wouldnt know about that.
My Dad did too... the, ” believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see" part... and "when you see the light at the end of the tunnel... you can bet that it is an oncoming train"...
The part I'm sure about: everyone started freaking out. I was on a plane decades ago landing in Houston, and just as we were coming down to land the tower told the pilot the wheels weren't down, his light said they were. We went what felt like straight up, it was exhilarating and terrifying, as the pilot told everyone what was going on and to get in the crash position. Most of the passengers became instant Christians as they screamed and cried. My seatmate and I decided we weren't going to make it so we might as well make the best of it. We got to see the whole other side of Houston from the air as the pilot circled and landed flawlessly on the second attempt. But the emergency vehicles screaming down the runway towards us kept the passengers freaked out.
Yeah, I was once on a Quantas flight from Honolulu to Melbourne. It was pretty empty, so I was able to be lying down across four seats. Suddenly, the plane ✈️ hit a big pocket of turbulence, so the plane began shaking. Many passengers immediately started screaming uncontrollably. (I was laughing so hard my stomach kind of turned to jelly. I laughed because (a) it felt like being on a rollercoaster, and (b) I thought it was ridiculous for them to scream, since it helps nothing to freak out. We’re either going to crash into the ocean 🌊(doubtful), or the plane will soon stop shaking. Either way, there’s nothing we can do about it). The plane soon stopped shaking. The pilot came on the PA system to say “I have to apologize for the turbulence. We tried several different altitudes, but nothing seemed to work. We just had to fly through it. Everything is fine. Thank you for your understanding”. I just thought “Wow, these Quantas pilots are so polite. He’s actually apologizing for the weather!” 😊
@@spooders8424 Oh 100%. To get to Honolulu a few days prior, our Air Canada plane landed in Vancouver from Toronto. There were 3 of us passengers travelling on from Vancouver to Hawaii. They let us off before any of the other passengers, a Quantas representative waiting for us outside the gate. “Your plane is late. Our plane is waiting for you three, we must hurry”, and then proceeded to walk us quickly from one side of the airport to the other, rushing extremely quickly. I was amazed at that level of Customer Service. If I could fly Quantas everywhere, I would!
We had a tornado on the airport and the pilot pulled to a taxiway and went out the emergency window and left the passengers in the aircraft and ran to the terminal. He was not employed for long after the incident. The passengers were all fine.
As a news journalist almost dying in a plane crash, I would have investigated how this happened, why it happened, what almost caused my death. For him not to be sure of any details besides the experience baffles me.
@@scopedriver You took the words right out of my mouth. That, right there, has got to change your perspective and make everything more dramatic or exaggerated. I mean you can tell by the way he is explaining it, he is all ramped up. But like our cool pilot explains, it may not have been quite as bad as it seems.
He didn't say he saw the wing detach, that's just malice and misrepresentation on your part. He said "the wing appears to detach", the photos do confirm that, it's likely he pieced the events together after he was outside the plane, he wouldn't know about the order of events.
@dkosmari from the front of the plane he did not see the plane on fire or any of the other stuff - which makes his whole conclusion that people can't process information debatable. From tuckers own story, you can determine that tucker can come to a conclusion without knowing the full story, and then rehash it for his own ends.
@@jago5373 "For his own ends" meaning to survive a possible fiery death? What do you mean he did not see the fire, are you making things up now? Sounds like you should be a journalist at MSNBC.
Great video, Kelsey! Let’s hear it for all the lightweight drinkers, we are cheap dates 🤣 The acoustics are fantastic in the room you are recording in!
According to Wikipedia the flight was October 17, 2001. Flight PK231 from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway at Dubai after the right hand maingear collapsed as it touched down. The aircraft skidded and eventually came to rest in sand 50 metres from the runway. The aircraft sustained damage to its right wing structure and its no. 2 engine, which partly broke off the wing.
I came close to being in a plane crash once during one of my classes. I happened to be in the left seat of a wingless Cessna 152 to test the nose wheel steering and the brakes, and the rest of the class was pushing the plane across the hangar. During the test, I looked up and saw the wall coming up, so I tried slamming the brakes, which did nothing since the brakes didn't work. At that point, I was at the mercy of the class hoping they realized what was about to happen. They eventually got the plane stopped, but by the time it was stopped, it was about an inch away from the hangar wall.
I used to be really scared of flying as it combines multiple phobias. Watching these channels, even Mayday disasters really does help. As Captain says a'lot of the source of the fear is the lack of understanding of various noises and sensations from the plane. Learning more about the reason for all of this really does alleviate a'lot of the fear.
I found an article that included an email from Tucker's dad from hours after the incident. Landing gear failed to properly deploy. It was 2am over water. The out of control feeling in the air was from loud noises but otherwise normal turns during approach. On landing gear was turned and then collapsed. The collaspe caused structural failures so I am guessing it was a hard landing also. Right side was blocked by fire. Middle left side exit unable to open because of structural damage. A large crack was near the door Tucker, his dad, a CIA person, and a CNN person went out.
We were on a flight from Chicago to Amsterdam and the worst windstorm to hit the coast in decades was building offshore. The turbulence grew so bad people were losing their breakfast and screaming and praying. There was a sudden explosion and for what felt like ages I couldn’t see or hear anything. Vision returned first and the flight attendants looked terrified as they worked their way to the windows. Then I noticed the lights in the plane were out. For a moment I thought the wing had exploded but we weren’t plummeting. The lights came on again and it felt crazy to be relieved that we were back to the violent turbulence. The pilot announced it was lighting, and it’s a safe bet everyone in this comment section knows planes can cope with it. We were the last plane to land that morning and everyone else was diverted. The pilot did an astonishingly awesome job on the landing and we were all cheering in gratitude for him. My son who was about 5 at the time remembers it all differently. He was laughing and having a great time on the super bouncy plane. It was a ride at an amusement park for him, flashing lights and noise included.
Ha ha, me recuerda mi hijo de Miami a Buenos Aires.( 4 years old,) cada vez que había turbulencia,el feliz diciendo bien fuerte..., otra vez mami. El resto de los pasajeros malos porqué no lo corregia. No way. Me reía con él. Los aviones no son hechos con alas de mariposas. 😅😅😅
That sounds like moderate turbulence, it’s rare but pilots will encounter it several times in a career. Now imagine galley carts bouncing off the ceiling and people breaking bones. That would be severe turbulence. Extreme turbulence can (permanently) bend the airplane.
@@mascarenhas9624 That was me as a 10? year old kid (on my own) on a flight through a thunderstorm. :^) Ese era yo cuando era un niño de ¿10? años (solo) en un vuelo a través de una tormenta. :^)
One thing that surprises me is that they don’t have cameras that let the pilots see what’s happening with the engines and wings. I’ve heard several stories where the passengers have told the cabin crew an engine was on fire or having trouble so they told the pilots or the pilots asking the cabin crew what they could see. Obviously the instrumentation lets them know there is a problem but visual is still best.
I agree. People by the millions have bought cheap cameras installed near their doorbells. Why can't such things be designed into strong points on the wings or fuselage?
Some do IIRC. Pretty sure the A380 has at least one (top of vertical stabilizer, looking forwards) that can be displayed in the cockpit. Good for a quick check but there's a limit to how much detail one can resolve on a small screen. A proper determination really requires someone experienced (cabin or flight crew) to directly inspect things. Of course, examining under the fuselage is a different story.
I agree. Almost every new car has parking sensors and backup cameras. Yet we still have airplanes hit things with the wingtips because the pilots don’t know they’re getting too close to something.
After watching a lot of air disaster videos, the lack of cameras to allow pilots a view of wings, engines, and landing gear is indeed surprising, considering the technological advances in cameras. It has the potential for pilots to make a quicker determination of problems so they can move on to a course of action.
Think I found it: "On 17 October 2001, Pakistan International Airlines flight 231, an Airbus A300, from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway after the right-hand main landing gear collapsed as it touched down." This made the engine and part of the wing move out of place. The "explosion" was probably the right main gear failing. So, what we are looking at is a drunk passenger's recollection of a heavy landing followed by an over-run. All passengers and crew walked away unhurt. The hull looked to be a total loss. So Tucker's recollection is not entirely bad.
It doesn't even have to be a drunk person. Some people remember things in a different. It depends on their personality. One time I was helping a friend move and he had rented a box truck. He was driving along when a deer appeared. It was about 100 feet to the front of us but it was to the left of us and it moved around but it never tried to move across the road. My friend told about this incident to another friend and he said the deer had started to cross the road just as we got within 50 feet of it. I looked at him and told him the deer was far away it had never made a move to cross the road. He gives me odd look. But when I think about it. It seems like anything that happens with him is always some epic encounter. He's always hungry for attention. After that and watching others who seem to be choosing the words that make them seem like something exciting had happened. I now without any immediate response.
Yeah, that guy had zero sense of honor. That would not happen on a ship from say, America, or Asia. There is a duty, even if it is not a "Rule". To some people, being responsible _is_ a rule!
Always a good day when there's a new video from you, Kelsey. About two weeks ago I was watching a live feed from ORD in Chicago. I saw an Atlas Air cargo plane taxi, then take off. I don't know who was in the left seat of the cockpit, but just in case ... I waved at you.
I'm sure by "front windows" he meant the cockpit windows, not specifically the front cockpit window as opposed to the side cockpit window. You yourself go on to say they have "...sliding windows on the FRONT..." immediately after that.
@@AntonioPeralesdelHierro, the cockpit has a window that opens and the pilot can climb out there in an emergency, this is what he's referring to, not the forward facing windshield. He calls it the front window because it's at the front of the plane as opposed to the back, not because you hate him.
I think it's an anecdote and not really an essential detail. It's highly likely that the pilots did not leave the aeroplane early. It's a careless way to tell a story, people might become scared of flying as a result, but the point was about the air host who apparently froze-up - but it's highly likely he actually said "it's not safe to disembark right now, everything's fine and under control, just be patient" - and this led to some realisation from Tucker. I would have liked to hear the ending of the story, but that's also not what THIS video is about. I like the way Kelsey breaks things down, he presents well and is very interesting, but I wouldn't take Tucker's story beyond the meaning of the anecdote.
@@NelsonBrownI mean the A300 is described as a dual aisle aircraft all over the place. Sometimes referred to as twin aisle. A random passenger call it double aisle instead especially to differentiate the size of other airliners they have been on is probably pretty common.
It was an A300. It was a normal flight and normal landing until the right maingear collapsed and it skidded off the runway about 50 meters and came to rest in a sand dune. The airframe was later sunk off the coast of The Palm to make an artificial reef, you can dive on it right now.
*Carlson's flight was one of these two (from PIA's records):* October 17, 2001 121 Incident: Main landing gear collapsed Plane Model: Airbus A300B4-203 Year Built: 1983 Flight Number: PK-231 Flight: Islamabad - Peshawar - Dubai Location: Dubai International Airport (United Arab Emirates) Fatalities Crew: 0 Passengers: 0 May 25, 2001 Incident: Unknown explosion causing the rupture of aft pressure bulkhead Plane Model: Airbus A300B4-203 Year Built: 1981 Flight Number: PK-305 Flight: Lahore - Karachi Location: 110 miles away from Lahore (Pakistan) Fatalities Crew: 0 Passengers: 0
@@lieutenantdan2217 These details don’t list the number of passengers, they list the number of fatalities (which were 0 fatalities for crew and 0 for passengers as well)
@@renegranit240 I’m just looking at the dates. The second one happened May 25/2001, which was before the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center were destroyed by terrorists. Carlson says his experience happened after Sept 11/2001.
I thought the same...sounded like "double aisle", which makes sense w/that plane type. Nonsensical for Tucker to have said -" double-ought" , i.e. "OO"8
Here's my theory. -The "explosion" might have been the hard landing sound. -The engine roaring might be the "reverse thrust". -The loud rattling noise might have been from the landing gear getting collapsed and the engine getting scrapped across the ground while being deformed and used with reverse thrust. The flight attendant might have been right. Also I think he referred to A300 as a "double aisle aircraft".
@@-ThunderLines up well with Carlson's story? He said the wing detached in mid flight! He also said there was some rebuttal of the explosion theory, so yeah, smells of fish.
@@davefandango1303 Considering Tucker is recounting his feelings as a non-pilot years later: mid flight and final approach may mean t the same to him. Losing a wing panel or seeing debris may have been inaccurately expressed as the “wing falling off”. The local news did, in fact, recount Tucker being the first person off the plane as he indicated in his story. So an event happened that was serious and Tucker experienced it. Do you want the NTSB to arrest him for over dramatizing it for effect in a speech? Some of the people in these comments are unhinged.
This crash happened in 2001, so either they changed the rules again or Carlson was half in the bag before he got on the plane (or, ya know, he's using "alternative facts" again).
It could account for the flight attendant's attitude to him as well, if he was half cut and it's and it's an emergency. Basically: "Calm the flip down, and stop trying to start a stampede."
I definitely feel a sense of pride and accomplishment looking at your FOUR stripes, Kelsey! On your behalf, of course. You are, without doubt, the most entertaining and interesting aviation channel "host" that I know of. And obviously doing well on the flight deck too. Well done!
for me the most intense scene of the sully movie was when he stands at the docks and is recalling the number of passagners again and again and is waiting for confirmation that everyone got saved. "thats my number, thats my number..". greetings and thx for the video.
Kelsey: "planes with only one wing fall out of the sky" McDonnel-Douglas F-15 Eagle: Hold my beer! Look up the 1983 Negev mid-air collision accident, where an IAF F-15 Eagle lost almost entire right wing in mid-air collision and managed to get back home to base in the remaining piece. It's a very fascinating story of aerodynamics and just pure pilot's willpower and flight skill.
"Given enough thrust, even a brick will fly!" The thrust to weight ratio on an F-15 would probably keep it flying with both wings missing - Until fuel runs out of course.
I was looking to see if anyone mentioned this. Several people replicated this with radio controlled models, it was proven possible at scale, but took a lot of attempts. Goes again to the proof that having a human at the controls makes a big difference.
I really enjoy how getting sucked into an engine is “really embarrassing” or your engine exploding on an airplane seem like an example brought up in every video. Your commentary always entertaining.
I was in a brutal plane crash in the mid 80s, despite dumping all the fuel, bombs and rockets. It turns out Commodore 64 games didn't have physics so it made no difference whatsoever and we died anyway.
I broke a 4-color flight simulator game eons ago, one that was played off an 8-inch floppy disk. No idea what I did, but you could then forever just drive over the water as if it were land. I was garbage at getting into the air and couldn't land anyways, so for once I was able to complete my missions. Maybe it was your 8-bit spirit helping remove my need for wings.
Nice video Kelsey. I found it refreshing with a good flow. You seemed engaged, interested and excited about the topic you were presenting. You interject humour which gives the show a lighter more inviting feel. People's varying recollections of the same occurrences is fascinating. And yes, the recollections/experience that Mr Carlson presented would be very different than an experienced aviator such as yourself. Such matters are hugely important in aviation mishap investigations. Keep up the good work Kelsey. So long as you decide to produce content, there's many of us who will continue to watch.
Ha, that written report at the end completely changes the image I had in my head. I was thinking this was a in the middle of the desert crash landing. Ends up this was a landing at an airport that didn't go well.
Tucker stated loud bang and part of the wing came off, they turned sideways.landing in a sand dune (the report stated: on landing the Rt. landing wheels collapsed, the plane slide sideways landing in a sand dune 160 ft from the runway, with the plane facing 90 degree away from the direction of the runway. portion of wing missing) How does that so greatly differ from what Tucker said.
@@jackccrofootjr7228 Touchdown was on the runway. That was the detail Tucker omitted. He probably seriously thought they were in the air when all that was happening. The Tucker story makes it sound more dramatic than is actually was. He was half drunk, so I'm not surprised he isn't a great historian on what happened.
There’s also the factor that Tucker Carlson is a famous dude who’s playing to an audience and embellishing things, which is what he probably does for a living anyway.
The jet's wing totally detached -- a journalist you can trust. "We come into a sand dune, the plane is on its side" vs "We landed on the runway and the plane ran off the runway"
The crash landing happened, and if you ever experienced even a hard landing you know it's terrifying. 😅He's basically telling a life story, he is not doing investigative journalism. When people on the left tell a story it will become "their truth" but when a man who disagrees with you tells a story it's a lie. 😂😂
It is a great end of the day for me, because he posts videos (now every other) Sunday at 10 PM in my country, right when I'm getting ready to sleep. ❤ I can sleep peacefully after getting my bi-weekly dose of Kelsey. 😂
F.O. : "we've lost an engine, and another one is on fire!" Captain Kelsey : "Cool. No big deal". Should be pretty fun to be in an emergency situation, in a plane, with Kelsey as a pilot. Must be one hell of a party.
Like Wombat said once "i want to be the guy who is sitting in the Airbus cockpit detached from the main fuselage wich is over there and i would be saying "i still think i can pull this off" "
i mean all those flight hours cost a lot of money or pay pretty poorly...you learn to save any way you can and free breakfast fills the belly and reduces your grocery bills coming out of your income...so yeah, it becomes a lufestyle even after you start making decent wages
Memory is a funny thing. I am 77 years old and was a commercial pilot for almost 40 years. Even events with my family I will often ask my sibling. Is this how you remember the situation? It is true that he was impaired by alcohol, fatigue, Unfamiliar with aviation mishaps. But I think he remembers vividly the announcement of the lead flight attendant. “everything is fine. “That was the illustration he was trying to make. It’s true that some people embellish situation, but I think he was just trying to illustrate what is going on in the world today. I think some people called it cognitive dissonance. People can be in the situation of approaching danger, and even death and be unable to accept what is going on. Their mind won’t reject their previous programming and perception even in the face of overwhelming facts.
On the other hand, once the airplane had come to a stop after running off the side of the runway, everything was, for the most part, fine. It wasn't really a dissonant statement.
Yes, exactly, unable to accept reality even with a high degree of situational awareness. I had a very-near death experience, my body being almost completely cut in half and all I could say was "No!" This was unacceptable...simply unacceptable.
People in Tower One were told to wait for the fire department, too. I’ve watched too many of these plane crash videos and have decided in any situation if my brain says go , I’M GOING! I must tell you YOUR videos have made me much more calm as I’ve always been fearful to fly. More so as I’ve gotten older. Thank you for your prescient explanations.
I remember someone released an audio of a dispatcher talking to an irate fellow who was on a floor that the fire department could never reach; she was aware of the situation and couldn't tell him the truth; he and everyone there were going to die. She was weeping as he berated her - and the last words he said into his phone were 'WTF'. I can imagine how AWFUL that moment was for her; I cannot and refuse to imagine what it was like for him.
Memories are odd. I remembered as a kid, getting chased across the yard and being bitten in the leg by the neighbor's German Shepherd. About 20 years later, I recounted this story to my mother and she corrected me on one single fact.
It was a poodle.
😂 this is hysterical! Thank you for posting this!
To be fair, poodles are jerks.
You would probably be dead if it was a german sheppard/pitbull/pitmix
It’s always the poodle :)
I remember discussing one of the early episodes of Mythbusters one day in the high school cafeteria.
The problem: I was class of 99 and Mythbusters premiered in 2003
“I've lived through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually happened.” Mark Twain
That actually sounds like Samuel Clemens. LOL
@@sealyoness yeah
We'll Quoted, Good Sir... Or Ma'am
People with the gift for gab, especially TV personalities, will tell personal stories so it is entertaining, even if it is fictionalizing some parts of the story. ie it is 85% true.
This is just a random question, what if you (the pilot) really can’t get a good night sleep. Some of these flights are 6 or 7 in the morning, what do you do?
Ron White, passenger screams, "How far can this plane fly on one engine!"
Ron, "All the way to the crash site!"
And they'll beat the ambulance there!
@jofus3604 - One of his best jokes, IMO. Second only to "You can't fix stupid,"
Is Ron white the pilot or the plane in this story?
Hilarious
Captain comes on the intercom ... "folks we had an engine failure, but we've got one left. We'll be getting you home late by several hours".
Drunk ass-hole jumps up and yells ... "Dam .... if that second engine goes out, we'll be up here all day!!"
It has been awhile since I checked the feed. I see four stripes on the shoulder boards where I remembered three in the last video I saw.
Congratulations!
"Surviving a plane crash, evacuating and then getting sucked into an engine, that's going to be embarassing" 😄
, . . . and take the paperwork to a whole new level.
Some of the Asiana 777 crash evacuees in San Francisco were killed by the firetruck rushing to attend the accident
I don't know if he is concerned about Actual facts.
Only embarrassing for a split second though.
And if it's Tucker, downright amusing.
My cousin survived flight 232 DC-10 that crashed in Sioux City, Iowa in '89. He was 9 and travelling alone from his fathers to his mother in chicago. His section came to rest upside down. He was uninjured. Two men grabbed him hanging from his seat belt and saved him. Oprah wanted to fly him to L.A. for her survivor show, but he declined another flight.
Yeah, crashing does have that effect on you. Car, plane... even boats (yeah, i know). People just don't want to get close to those things anymore.
Oprah the ambulance chaser
Is that the one that flipped several times and wound up in a cornfield? That was a terrible crash. He was a lucky boy.
Yeah that sounds like a TV production. “You survived a plane crash let’s get you on another flight to talk about it” 😂
WOW !!
"If you don't know who Putin is, I can't help you." Never change, I love the humor.
Sadly, far too many couldn't even recognize their own parents these days... 🙄 To be blunt, people are effin' stupid! 😄
What a great line. Delivered so well.
isn't Dr Putin the president of the Russian Federation? just search it online or ask someone, most people know that.
@@RobertForslund many are not even sure of their own gender
It’s I can’t really help you but that’s still iconic
From Wikipedia :
On 17 October 2001, Pakistan International Airlines flight 231, an Airbus A300, from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway after the right hand main landing gear collapsed as it touched down. The aircraft skidded and eventually came to rest in sand 50 meters from the runway. The aircraft sustained damage to its right wing structure and right engine, which partly broke off the wing. All 205 crew and passengers (which included high profile American political commentator and talk show host Tucker Carlson and his father Dick Carlson) evacuated safely
I'm not in the industry, but PK231 is an Airbus A320 that was active in 2022, and I think it's highly unlikely they reused the flight number of a destroyed aircraft.
@@jimjambananaslam3596 the flight number does not change when the aircraft type change.
@@jimjambananaslam3596 Flight numbers are based on the route, not the plane.
@@drew651 Thank you. Nice mic drop. Yours, Ann
The guy cant even tell the truth on this. Good story for his audience tho
"Planes with only one wing fall out of the sky."
F-15: "Hold my beer ..."
😂
F-15: "Hold my wing"
Lifting body design. Better than anticipated.
A10: flying with essentially zero wings
A-10: "Filthy casuals..."
"Believe nothing you hear, and only half of what you see."
That is some of the best advice. Especially right now.
Then the big question is, do you believe the media and
pig pharma and ignore the others, or vice versa?
Especially when it's coming from T.C..
Oh yeah !
Especially considering tucker Carlson is a putin lapdog shill liar, who will say *WHATEVER* his handlers say. He got fired right after Fox "news" paid nearly 800 million in settlement to avoid court. _Think about it_
People exaggerate stories about catching fish! Imagine an aeroplane crash, plus if you're making a speech yo have to spice things up
From IATA safety report 2001, Appendix E, 17. "During the approach to Dubai, when the undercarriage was selected down there was a ‘loud bang.’ The approach was continued but, on touchdown, the aircraft’s right main undercarriage reportedly collapsed. The aircraft veered to the right and ran off the side of the runway."
from that, it sounds like a hydraulic line may have failed.
Tucker has never been known to deal with facts. This sounds more realistic.
He was half drunk in a stressful situation. He should have listened to the flight attendant, who was likely trying to get people off the plane without a panic rush for the exits.
It must have lost lift like Tucker Carlson recounted, after touching down
So he was drunk and is misremembering or he is exaggerating to the point of lying.
He didn’t cost his network $787.5 Mio because he was drunk and misremembered things, though…
I always respect and enjoy your analysis. My father was a pilot, learned to fly in the mid-''30's, and was a flight instructor for the Navy during WWII. A few years after the war ended, he went to work for United Air Lines at their maintenance base near San Francisco. He applied to become a pilot for them, but they found he was slightly color blind, and wouldn't hire him in that capacity. UAL had a flying club where employees could learn to fly, and he became their chief flight instructor on week ends, and at UAL, finally ended up in their engineering department. You remind me of him. He was very methodical and factual like you are when discussing anything pertaining to aviation. I just want to let you know how much I enjoy your videos. If he were still with us today, I just know he would also enjoy your videos.
I was working in Pakistan in 2002 and a local guy told me that they say PIA means “Perhaps I Arrive.”
They definetly arrived, in fact the whole crash happened on the runway. :D The other things just made up by Tucker...
Perchance I'm Alive
PIA 8303 made me so angry it's unreal how much disregard for safety pilots can have. Ignoring a multitude of alarms, ATC and performing a goaround after a belly landing...
@@canonip3000 the wiki for 8303, is quite different, are we sure its the same flgith?
@@paavangoyalit was flight PK231 in 2001.
My father once got in a state because he said he saw part of the wing falling off. My mother pointed out that it was just the flaps moving as normal...
I've explained all kinds of sights and sounds to nervous people.
aRe ThE WiNgS sUpPoSeD tO BeNd LiKe tHat???????
I don't suppose he was on the plane that had gremlins crawling all over the wings while a very upset character played by William Shatner goes into a panic? (Sorry, Had a Twilight Zone moment.)
This all sounds like the conversation I have with my mechanic when something dreadfully goes wrong with my car. He usually politely smiles as I tell him what I think happened to the engine and I am almost never right.
Yup.- Ex ASE tech
@@captaintoyota3171 to further prove my point, I had to Google what a ASE tech was. LoL
I had a 1996 Taurus that would intermittently fail to start--the engine just wouldn't turn over, but I could get it going by tapping on the starter. I asked a family member's coworker, a "gear-jammer chick" who owns a Corvette and does her own oil changes with low-height ramps to get more of the oil to drain, and she told me, "Yeah, on an old Taurus, your problem is a bad starter. The starters go out on those cars."
So I make a service appointment and drove it to the local Ford dealer, hinting that a family friend indicated trouble with the starter, and the tech smiled and said, "We'll check this out."
I get a call an hour later, and not only was it deemed to be the starter, the tech had stranded the car in the dealership parking lot "checking it out."
I felt like saying, "Yeah, what does this old lady who drives a Corvette and does her own oil changes with low-height ramps know, she is just a girl", but I kept the thought to myself.
That's what makes me cringe about car trouble advice people give on facebook. "Same thing happened to my car - buy a new starter and alternator and that'll fix it"!!!! 🤣
Any time I'm going to a professional about something in a field that I don't know much about, I try to be very clear about my actual observations vs my best guess at what they actually mean. My observations are important, but my interpretation is completely useless except as a sidelight on my observations.
Twice so far I've walked into a GP's office and said, look I'm not here to diagnose myself, but the short version is that I have the symptoms of pneumonia. First time it was pneumonia, second time it was bronchitis. In both cases, "the symptoms of pneumonia" was a good way to sum up my observations.
PERFECT Timing! I saw that speech, and went - HOW HAS NO ONE Done a Report on this flight?? And even now with yours, there is only 1 document showing info, and a few pictures of the plane after. Crazy.
"You can get sucked up and die, and that would be really embarrassing" Well, that's an understatement.
lmao I thought that was a funny comment too!
Especially if all your clothes got ripped off before or during the process!!
on the other hand, in case of Tucker, it would have spared us a lot of embarrassment. Just saying.
You can get sucked off, and lie.
How embarrassing. If you weren't wearing dirty underwear before being sucked into a jet engine you will be after.
Kelsey, you just keep getting better and better! My skin hurts because I was glued to my computer screen. Excellent analysis, summary, conclusion, and educated guesses! I love intelligent RUclips channels like this one.
My father, who flew a lot for his job when I was younger, once was on a flight on a four-engine plane (not sure if jet or propeller) when he looked out the window and saw one of the engines fall off. There was silence from the cockpit for a couple of minutes, and then the pilot came on and drawled: "Well folks, it looks like we're going to make the flight without engine number 3."
I saw a video documentary about a plane that survived an emergency landing on the tarmac, but a ferocious fire was ablaze in the rear of the passenger cabin. Instead of listening to the crew and evacuating immediately without possessions, the front passengers were calmly opening the overhead bins to get their stuff, blocking the rear passengers escaping. Those rear passengers burned to death!
Rank has its privileges.
Dad was born in 1896. He saw early aviation. Refused to fly most of his life. I convinced him to fly to visit the kids. To distract him during the flight we played gin rummy. First time I could actually win once in a while.
And you are talking shite or playing rummy with your imaginary friend
If your dad was born 1896, you must be about 100 years old.
@@afridgetoofar1818 My money is on OP being from Bull Caca Island.
Fun fact! There is still a grandchild of President John Tyler still alive!
President Tyler was born in 1790 and died in 1862.
@@afridgetoofar1818 OP could be in his late 70s and it would make sense if his dad had children in his late 40s or early 50s.
@Anna_Xor - I immediately thought of John Tyler’s grandchild when i read this lol.
So yeah it could be possible there is something similar here, where the Dad was born in 1896, and had @BB-iq4su when he was 60 or 70, so 1956-1966, making them now 60 or 70 as well.
Or yeah maybe their dad had them at regular age and they really are 100 haha.
“This guy lived up the road..”. (Bin Laden)
Your humor is exceptional.
that shit made me choke lmao i was not expecting “one of aviation’s most loved people”
I died with the “where he met another ginger…” (small smirk). That friggin ended me!
I believe bin Laden was in Afghanistan at that time, hence the US invasion?
He later escaped to Pakistan where he was protected by the Pakistani government (our "ally") for many years.
"One of aviation’s most loved people!“ 😂 Maybe a hint of some sarcasm there, I don’t know… 🤣🤣🤣
(Probably on of the "most loved" persons by everyone standing in a security check queue, too… 🙃 )
."and got a late night visit .." ;)
I love how you're absolutely polite and tactful but simultaneously glib and cheeky. You manage to communicate a lot by speaking very little.
Yep. K is an expert at that now.
SPEAKING LITTLE THIS CLOWN CAN'T SHUT UP
Tucker wiil be the first to admit his mistakes unlike the mainstream media. If I was drunk in the same situation right after 911, my fear and recollection would be fuzzy too.
The question is; what are you going to do about it ? You have our blessing & permit to use & send this letter to Senators, House Rep., Judges & Church people: The Republicans & their, supporters are great people but among them are sadly too many that are naive & deceived by Trump acting as if he is a nationalist that cares about the USA while indirectly, encourages over 190 nations to arm themselves with nuclear weapons in secrete, since the USA that disarmed Ukraine of it's nuclear arsenal in exchange of granting it's sovereignty & security, proves (if Trump gets elected) would prove that the USA can not be trusted with any pact or agreement granting any sovereignty or anything that the
USA signs
about anything whatsoever, since granting by words but not by deeds is not granting but deceit & hypocrisy. Trump's deeds also testifies about his hypocrisy & deceit when said he supports Jesus'way, and people, but he does NOT since Jesus never said about any murderer "he is smart" and didn't praised murderers, criminals, genocide
practitioners
by saying 'they are smart' , like Trump did, and said about North Korea's criminal dictator Kim J., Un, and Russia's genocide practitioner PUTIN who keeps killing babies & mothers giving birth in hospitals bombed by Putin, which is worse than killing fetus. Even now Trump shows no opposition to Putin and to the pro- dictatorship Russia,
nor against
Russia's fascist genocide in Ukraine. Ukraine is 10 times more democratic and more genuine Christian than is at present Russia, who's persecution of protestant Christian churches leads toward their extinction in Russia (most of them are persecuted, prosecuted and under hiding and running away from Russia); Russia who's Russian Orthodox so IMPLIED 'Christian' church
leadership,
in who's seat of power over the church is a notorious former KGB agent who blessed (on camera) the claimed "nuclear" missile called "Satan" blessed against the USA, (while 'the blessing' was filmed as evidence, and such is blasphemy when done by a church claiming to be Christian), and it's KGB leader who replaced most priests with former KGB middle age retired agents. Trump made clear his betrayal of the pact signed by the USA of granting Ukraine's sovereignty and security when
disarmed
Ukraine of it's nuclear arsenal. If the USA desire to walk back on it's agreement, or abandon that treaty, then has the obligation to arm back Ukraine with it's nuclear arsenal. We are here to testify and to grant you that D E F E C T I N G (defecting) on the agreement without arming back the Atheo-Judeo-Christian people of Ukraine with the
nuclear
deterrent weapons of preventing their enslavement and genocide of millions of them by Russia as was done in the past, in Russia's Siberian gulags, WILL ACTIVATE OUR GOD'S RETALIATION through his established biblical curses, AGAINST THE USA, THE SAME AND AS MUCH IF THE USA TAKES MEASURES AGAINST ISRAEL which is
also the
established world-wide headquarters of the Spiritual Israel of Christians, MessiYah-nic, Agnostics and Jews and even Atheists, while Muslims headquarters are in Mecca in which Christians, Jews and Atheists are NOT allowed to reside, worship or live, and the Catholics headquarters is in the tiny city Vatican, that is smaller in land than a small town or than an American
village.
THE BIBLICAL CURSES WILL GET ACTIVATED ALSO AGAINST EVERYONE WHO'S MIND IS SET AGAINST UKRAINE WHICH IS TO BE USED BY OUR LORD'S WILL, as an ALLY OF ISRAEL WHEN MAGOG-RUSSIA, TURKEY & IRAN with
other nations will start the walk toward Armageddon against IsraEL of the Eternal ELoHim YHWH, 'EL' of IsraEL.
Make
your move, since the invisible little steps starts now, and the players are invisible powers to which you are only a pawn unless you are truly spiritually born again adopted child of our Lord and friend of The Divine MessiYah, able to see and understand what is revealed to you, while others have no understanding.
Trump
parrots Putin's propaganda to keep fear mongering with nukes his own nation, . . .like a repetitive parrot, that keeps twitting to his own people "nuke, nuke, nuke, nuke, bla bla bla bla", WW3, WW3, desperate of not being able to scare his own nation into submission & to his praised Putin - "Putin is smart". Are you ready to deliver Ukraine in Putin's hands? - Then be ready to deliver Alaska as well you hypocrite. All nations are watching.
Putin made
public on the Russian TV (against the USA) and through decrees that Alaska is a Russian territory (probably after hearing about the Alaskan hidden [classified] gold mountain backing the US dollar), from Alaska's huge national park). Putin and his mafia said that Alaska must be returned to Russia and that Russia won't stop until enters
Berlin
(back in Germany). They made no secrete since they spoke openly about on Russia's TV channels. Carlson Tucker knows of Putin and Russia's official claim and decree about Alaska ( which is no different than the decree of annexing even Ukrainian territories that Russia never got control of,) while also claiming Alaska still belongs to
Russia
and that Russia will take it back sooner or later. Tucker being treasonous and unpatriotic while deceitfully claiming the opposite, remains silent concerning Russia's claim about Alaska, yet still firm pro-Russia, for his own selfish gain. BEHOLD SOME VIDEOS concerning Russia about Alaska. See the document signed by Putin about Alaska as being a Russian land to be taken back to Russia. See on RUclips at minute 12 : 55 the document video
TITLE:
Putin Declared Alaska occupied by the U.S. | Ukraine War Update AT THE MINUTE: 12 : 55 could see document.
& vid.on RUclips : US State Dept Responds To Russian President Putin’s Claim Over Alaska | Dawn News English
AND on RUclips - CHINA UNCENSORED: Tucker’s Putin Interview Blows Up in His Face .
AND also RUclips video at minute 10 :50 of the video titled: Day 740: Ukraïnian Map .
NATO
was created not to invade Russia (as Tucker justified Putin's acted paranoia or DECEIT), but to stop Russia from invading any UN recognized nations especially in Europe, and clearly it does not do the job, (at least so far did not), now when Russia is planing to invade even more neighboring countries like it did in the past
other
nations invaded and kept inside by force in the Russian Federation and most recently the invaded parts of Moldova, Georgia, and Ukraine and more to follow for Russian invasion of Atheo-Judeo-Christian countries pro-democracy of Atheists, Jews, & Christians, to be subdued, enslaved by the Fascist Russian Federation of
genocide
and other evil. If you apply Carlson Tucker's logic from his speech that because of crimes and drugs and rapes in the USA and supposedly 'a weak or bad economy' supporting or starting a war is not good - then applied to the world war ww2, because was bad for the USA economy to go to war against the German Nazis, and because in the USA had then
also cities
infected with crimes, drugs, rapes and 'a weak or bad economy' even then during the WW2, the USA should have NOT gone to war, therefore let UK, France, the rest of Europe and Russia to be taken by Germany and Italy which were in the way to rule the oceans of the earth (especially the Atlantic) in the detriment of the USA, (if it were not for the USA to enter
the war)
and sink the German U boats and submarines, and prevent the Nazi to take over Europe or Euro-Asia. Yet according to Putin's Russia TV channels broadcasts in the last two years, Russia plans to do the same like Hitler, together with China (if gets victory in Ukraine), and Trump & Tucker seems to be OK with that (maybe they are undercover Nazis), while deceitfully are denying Kremlin's
ambition.
Trump praises Putin saying Putin is smart, "the smart Putin" who keeps killing children, babies and mothers giving birth to babies in Ukrainian hospitals bombed at the order of the murderer criminal genocidal Putin that keeps bombing civilian buildings, supermarkets, restaurants, theaters, hospitals,
schools,
and kindergartens with no trace of soldiers in them, situated hundred miles away from the front and from any military bases and weapons. Trump's speeches are testifying for his desire and love of dictatorship since Russia's & North Korea's dictators are praised by Trump as being "smart men".
Trump's fall
that could be brought against the USA, comes from Trump greed for power, & a deceitful claim of representing the Christians, and from the contamination with Tucker's twisted deceitful propaganda pro-Russia and pro-dictators, that have set Trump as an example to be followed by many other criminals in the USA and across the world for > 'a hell of a future on earth'
Great video. I just noticed you are a captain now. Not sure when you were promoted, but great job!!
I wonder if the "engines surging" noise he heard were just the thrust reversers, since all this happened after touchdown (not mid-air as he made his audience believe)
He was drunk too so maybe the force he thought he felt and thought it was because the wing came off was just the fact that the landing gear broke and that caused one wing to hit the ground etc. This would also make sense for a flight attendant to say just stay in place because maybe nothing serious was going on and the engine never failed in the air but got destroyed after they were on the ground and the landing gear broke. He was drunk so maybe he didn't even know they had ever touched down. The last person you want to ask about what happened was a drunk person.
@@Phoenix-Cloud Yeah, very possible that the alcohol and panic made things feel / sound worse than they were, but I also believe he's intentionally exaggerating the story to shock his audience and show off. Like when he says he disobeyed the flight attendendant and just went ahead and opened the door & deployed the chute by himself. The big hero of the day :))
Every single thing Kelsey reported that Tucker said can be explained in a more reasonable way, explosion could be the landing gear breaking in the wing touching down, the engines revving up or probably the reverse thrusters because no landing gear means no brakes so there’s that. The petrified impersonation of the “male flight attendant” it’s because in tuckers mind that’s a woman’s job… And everything in fact was OK… so instead of probably bankrupting the airline by extending one of their slides when they probably could’ve just driven a set of stairs to the other side… and they really think Tucker is this big hero who opened the door?… he was prob crying in his seat. Honestly 🙄
@@langr752 Haha. Exactly. The flight attendant was likely doing his job trying to prevent a panic / stampede. From what I can see in the pictures, there was minimal or no fire at all and the aircraft came to rest in a pretty stable position, so there was no need for passengers to jump out of their seats and run for the exits. Only this buffoon did... (if he's even telling the truth about that part).
@@langr752I question his claim of opening the door and deploying the slide. I think it’s more likely he was being hysterical and shouting to open the door so the flight attendant was trying to reassure him.
FYI: it was Pakistani International Airlines *(PIA) Flight 231, 17 Oct. 2001* ... ZERO fatalities, but still a very dangerous runway "excursion" and main gear collapse, actual fire... well documented.
A quick check of ASN says that the right main landing collapsed on landing. I'm sure that collapse would sound like an explosion to a passenger if they've never had that happen.
No no, you heard the man, the wing detached. It just did. Very dangerous indeed. Miraculous.
If that’s the flight his memory is way off because everything was after the plane landed he said something exploded there was a flight PIA-305 months before that match his story with something exploded same air plane type but he said after 9/11 which would be PIA-231 so a lot of his story not matching up
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 ABSOLUTELY. Tucker wouldn't embellish something to make it seem different than what it really was, or just make up shit completely!
@@mickonewell1596there was a Washington Post article about it published Oct 18, 2001. Tucker Carlson was on Flight 231. If he had just told the truth about what happened, it would have been a cool story to tell. The crew were incompetent and just failed to do their jobs. The article even says Carlson was the one that opened the door. But it was Flight 231 with a landing gear collapse, not a wing falling off mid-flight lmao
"and be sucked up by an engine. Which is really embarrassing."
I love that comment Kelsey made😆😆😆
what, tucker being sucked a mile high? Sorry for the akwward question
Somebody watches Ghosts?
😂😂😂😂
that can ruin your day
I found it and it’s nothing like Tucker stated 😂 October 17 2021 is when it happened it stated “Flight PK231 from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway at Dubai after the right hand maingear collapsed as it touched down. The aircraft skidded and eventually came to rest in sand 50 metres from the runway. The aircraft sustained damage to its right wing structure and its no. 2 engine, which partly broke off the wing.” Because I found a thing from the New York Times about someone who was setting with Tucker in the front of the plane
1:10 Tucker says "22 years ago this month" - assuming he made this speech recently - it would have occurred in the early 2000s - another commenter pinpoints "17 October 2001, Pakistan International Airlines flight 231"
@@johneyon5257 it was probably just a typo in the comment
@@MarinoMoons - probably? he would have had to in order to correctly describe the incident in 2001 - do you have a problem with people correcting errors - whatever the nature - and avoiding misdirecting readers
I'd say it matches enough to be identifiable, factoring in that Tucker was drunk and had terrible situational awareness; i.e. couldn't tell he was on the ground, the gear from the hold, or what the crew were doing. And of course had to be the hero of his tall tale, with a racist spin.
@@0LoneTech Yup, the way he imitated his accent in a patronizing tone was so cringy. The man has never known how to show some class.
One reason why you should probably listen to your flight attendant is that if you have to evacuate and there's panic and nobody is following instructions, people will block the aisles and exits, fighting on who gets out first and it will stop people getting out at all.
There was an accident being investigated where they couldn't understand why it was not possible to evacuate the plane in the amount of time they had. They ran an experiment a couple of times and everybody was orderly and everybody got off. Then they decided to offer $$$ to the first 20 people who get out and saw a completely different result where the exits got blocked and they were not able to evacuate in time.
And they try to bring their stuff with them. 😮
@@charisma-hornum-friesExactly, the 2014 Asiana crash in California had that cited as a reason for delayed escape, people were bringing their bags with them! You are basically putting the value of those objects over other people's lives.
@@colorbugoriginals4457 sadly, we live in a world where enough people care only about themselves and their stuff that this is a problem
Classic narcissists endangering others with their individual selfish decisions.
@@paulstimpson830 You're right, it's an overall problem. It has gotten so extreme. The number of people in this country who think it is ok to shoot someone for accidentally walking into their yard is very disturbing.
I'll bet it's hard to live with the embarrassment of getting sucked into an engine!
😂
You get over it surprisingly quickly
Yes. You'll need quite sometime to pull yourself together afterwards.
One US Navy deck crewman survived being sucked into the engine of an A-6. There's video of it and of him post-accident. I bet he's still embarrassed to this day.
Tucker can probably tell you a story about how that happened to him as well. He is a walking talking exaggeration.
Pilot Math:
Free Breakfast - Flight school costs= PROFIT
Lol...oh so true
lol
"Planes are resilient"
3 geese and a duck take down an entire 747.
Flight PK-231 from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway at Dubai after the right-hand main landing gear collapsed as it touched down. The aircraft skidded and eventually came to rest in sand 50 meters away from the runway. The aircraft sustained damage to its right wing structure and its no.2 engine, which partly broke off the wing. According to a press release by UAE's General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA), the approach and landing of the aircraft was normal. But during the landing roll, the aircraft left the right side of the runway at slow speed and came to rest on the un-prepared surface 50 meters away from the runway facing 90 degree to the landing direction. All 193 passengers and 11 crew were evacuated safely. The 21 passengers suffering slight injuries were treated at Dubai Airport's medical center. Investigation by GCAA reveals failure of the right main landing gear as the main cause of accident.
One passenger suffer major brain damage, but was able to continue his adventures on the screen til 2023.
@@tokul76 Ouch!
Excellent!
Thank you!
As I said before Tucker Carlson made his living LYING , so in my mind he has ZERO credibility to begin with. Just more lies and BS from a low life scumbag.
Yeah clearly Tucker's recollection is......flawed.
Just noticed you got your fourth stripe. Congratulations
This is the politest way ever I've heard of telling someone that they were drunk and have been exaggerating what happened for dramatic effect. Thanks for your diplomacy, @74 Gear. 🙂👍
Tucker admitted to being drunk. I don’t like to drink when I fly, but many do. I think for some it’s to help them sleep.
It's not like you can trust anything that guy says anyway. Doesn't matter if he was drunk or not. He's literally a professional liar, and was fired for letting himself get caught via his text message admissions.
@@andrewdynes5300 what's the story with him getting fired? I'd be interested to read on why he was fired from Fox News...
@@andrewdynes5300 In what comic did you read that?
@@andrewdynes5300👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 👍🏻
If i remember correctly, joke intended, every time you recount a memory, you're actually remembering the last time you remembered the story, not the actual story itself, so the further in time you go, the more layers you add on top of the original memory. Its like an overlay, every time you remmeber a memory, you're pulling up the last time you recounted the memory, thus adding another layer of overlay. This, as you can tell, can start creating a crazy game of telaphone, and thats how you can have such a twisted version of the memory, many years later.
interesting - seems plausible
@@johneyon5257 yea super interesting. I believe the science that provided this information was conducted because they needed to know how trustworthy a witness testimony could be in court, and the science showed that you recount the last time you remembered the incident, versus the actual incident. So as time passes by, little pieces of information can change and become cemented into the story, and the person telling the story will think they're telling the truth but it's slightly altered
Pretty much accurate. We're continuously interpreting what happens and trying to adjust it to mean we did what we meant to do - but the only part we control is our idea of what we meant. Telling a tale reinforces whatever tale made it out.
Especially if you recall the story a lot I think and tell it to a lot of people? You’re constantly adding layers, sometimes for dramatic event and sometimes humorous.
Planes with only one wing fall out of the sky.
A-10 Thunderbolt: "Very Basic!"
A10 says, “Hold my beer….”
If you want a separate, contemporary perspective from another source on the plane, you can read the "Reliable Source" article written by LLoyd Grove from 18 Oct 2001. He interviewed Tuckers dad, Dick Carlson, who was sitting immediately beside Tucker on that flight. As you noted, two people from the same chaotic event each had a different understanding of exactly what was happening ... but they both agreed that the plane crashed. Dick's version is more consistent with the images you show at the close of your vid (which isn't surprising since he was interviewed the day after the crash, and maybe he wasn't half drunk during the event).
Oh, so he was in the middle east with his CIA daddy, nothing suspicious about that. I do not like TV readers. when they go off script it gets messy, take his champagne away!
No crash, unless you count running slightly off the runway a crash. The IATA report is an actual reliable source and a few commenters have posted an extract from the report summary. It does meet the threshold for an accident though.
@@The_ZeroLine - Saying it wasn't a crash is like saying you didn't crash when you run your car into a ditch, total the right side of the car, and hit hard enough to break its engine mount. It's just a scratch, that'll buff right out. It is possible to crash a plane without it falling out of the air. Plus 50 meters off the runway for a 100,000+ KG aircraft isn't slightly off the runway. Making something that size, and with that much weight go 50 meters in any direction other than where you want it is a significant problem, and most certainly a crash.
And to your point about reliability of recounting the name; also the other version of events isn't from Tucker...
@@wurlyone4685 Yes, you said Lloyd George w/the source being Dick.
The incident occurred on 17 October 2001. The 'double ought' A-300 suffered a landing gear collapse on touchdown. The wing did partially break off, but it was on the ground. The sensation of flying sideways was probably sliding around on the ground.
I'd imagine if an A-300 exploded in mid air and then ended up landing safely with one wing partially detached, we would know more about the incident.
And I think Tucker said “double aisle Airbus.”
@@bbgun061absolutely. It makes much more sense than double aught
According to the report there was some type of explosion or incident as the gear was lowered before landing.
Surviving a plane crash and then getting sucked into the engine - I hate when that happens.
We deal with this type of stress all the time in law enforcement. You are spot on Kelsey. The ,"Oh $hit" moment is called the Startle Flinch. It can last a second, or it can last minutes (Fight, flight or freeze). Sully was actually successful in making the FAA take the Startle Flinch into account during the Potomac investigation when the FAA was claiming that the flight should have been able to return. It made all the difference. You're also very right about high stress recall. Good job explaining this Kelsey!! 👍
Good points on the fight, flight, or FREEZE. The latter is the one most people don't acknowledge and is probably the most common reaction.
My adult son says “just do something” meaning don’t freeze. I’m guessing statists show freezing causes the most injuries or casualties in an emergency. Easier said than done for most people.
This is a highly complex problem that I had the misfortune of experiencing 20 yrs ago. After the hydraulics on a huge machine failed I was certain of my chances of climbing out of trouble, but physics and gravity were laws unbroken, my pelvis was slowly crushed from left to right, down to about 4 inches. I had the experience of questioning the whole Universe after my initial slip back into the pinch point and lost any advantage I held. My main memory is an experience of surreal peace with diminishing pain over a period of about 10 seconds, but I can't piece together the time between " this won't work...and...Oh sh*t ". Time and space were seemingly interchangeable and the out of body sense was, I suspect, the brains best attempt to manage death, pain, fear and the feeling of being grossly mutilated, preceded by confidence. It was just another day at work, how could I be faced with death? This is not happening! This can"t be true. In fact the only word I said was "NO!"
@@glennosmond4306Oof, hope you are doing better now. I know that kind of injury can be permanently debilitating.
@@StalwartPikeman Yes, thanks. All the bone, muscle and skin regrew rapidly but decades later, nerves are still coming back to life, that and damaged cartilage are the only true limitations after an encounter with overwhelming forces. Then there are post trauma mental hurdles that fortunately diminish, given time, but that particular shade of yellow on heavy machinery still gives my soul a good shake. Take care...
I remember when the Captain of the Costa Concordia abandoned his ship before all the passengers.
He was "coordinating the rescue effort from the ground" according to him 😂
Yes, and I remember the guy from the Coast Guard ripping him 1000 new a$$holes! :))))
where was it flying to and from??
In Italy the Italians call that captain "Chicken of the Sea".
And he was jailed for it, 16 years was the sentence.
"You're gonna get sucked up into the engine, and that would be super embarassing" LOL. We love you Kelsey haha.
Happens! not sure about the embarrassment
@@randyshomeshop9787 And super dead.
I just love your videos! Please keep them coming!
From a former 777 and MD11 production manager, thank you! Facts matter. If the wing fell off, he would not be here to tell the story.
Damn. Seeing the video title written in present tense made me think this was actually current news.
I was hopeful, too
Classic clickbait casper here is about as fun to listen too as a dentist visit. I have my doubts that this fella has even seen a plane!
@@BestPlconEarth50you're wrong here, but you seem like the type who's wrong a lot
I'm glad it wasn't recent. Tucker would be pushing the narrative someone was trying to snuff him, or something along those lines.
When this plane landed it veered off the runway when the right main landing gear detached.The plane ended up in sand 50 metres off the runway. The right wing had damage and the right side engine partly broke off the wing. 205 crew and passengers all evacuated safely with no engines.
A much more pragmatic and factual account with less hyperbole.
That’s far less dramatic, but makes much more sense. I guess loud bang becomes explosion when youre “half drunk”. Never been half drunk myself (being a Finn), wouldnt know about that.
Are we to assume that Finns take pride in getting fully drunk?
@@janemiettinen5176Ah Yes. Full drunk would be more accurate!😂
What was that big hole in the side then?
You’re the best, Kelsey. Thank you I enjoy your videos.
My father would say,” believe none of what you hear,half of what you see, some of what you read and everything I say.”😂😂
Funny, I like that
My Dad did too... the, ” believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see" part... and "when you see the light at the end of the tunnel... you can bet that it is an oncoming train"...
I'm pretty sure he'd also advise you, if he thought you'd not already caught onto the notion, to "do not trust the word of the town drunk".
@@nickdannunzio7683 Did your dad mention clowns like Tucker Carlson?
Also, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. A variation of Ockham's Razor, espoused by the late great Carl Sagan.
The part I'm sure about: everyone started freaking out. I was on a plane decades ago landing in Houston, and just as we were coming down to land the tower told the pilot the wheels weren't down, his light said they were. We went what felt like straight up, it was exhilarating and terrifying, as the pilot told everyone what was going on and to get in the crash position. Most of the passengers became instant Christians as they screamed and cried. My seatmate and I decided we weren't going to make it so we might as well make the best of it. We got to see the whole other side of Houston from the air as the pilot circled and landed flawlessly on the second attempt. But the emergency vehicles screaming down the runway towards us kept the passengers freaked out.
Yeah, I was once on a Quantas flight from Honolulu to Melbourne. It was pretty empty, so I was able to be lying down across four seats. Suddenly, the plane ✈️ hit a big pocket of turbulence, so the plane began shaking. Many passengers immediately started screaming uncontrollably. (I was laughing so hard my stomach kind of turned to jelly. I laughed because (a) it felt like being on a rollercoaster, and (b) I thought it was ridiculous for them to scream, since it helps nothing to freak out. We’re either going to crash into the ocean 🌊(doubtful), or the plane will soon stop shaking. Either way, there’s nothing we can do about it). The plane soon stopped shaking. The pilot came on the PA system to say “I have to apologize for the turbulence. We tried several different altitudes, but nothing seemed to work. We just had to fly through it. Everything is fine. Thank you for your understanding”. I just thought “Wow, these Quantas pilots are so polite. He’s actually apologizing for the weather!” 😊
“Instant Christians” 😂😂😂
Funny how people get religion quick isn’t it.
@@HRHDMKYTQantas is ranked number 1 airline for good reason 😂
@@spooders8424 Oh 100%. To get to Honolulu a few days prior, our Air Canada plane landed in Vancouver from Toronto. There were 3 of us passengers travelling on from Vancouver to Hawaii. They let us off before any of the other passengers, a Quantas representative waiting for us outside the gate. “Your plane is late. Our plane is waiting for you three, we must hurry”, and then proceeded to walk us quickly from one side of the airport to the other, rushing extremely quickly. I was amazed at that level of Customer Service. If I could fly Quantas everywhere, I would!
We had a tornado on the airport and the pilot pulled to a taxiway and went out the emergency window and left the passengers in the aircraft and ran to the terminal. He was not employed for long after the incident. The passengers were all fine.
As a news journalist almost dying in a plane crash, I would have investigated how this happened, why it happened, what almost caused my death. For him not to be sure of any details besides the experience baffles me.
Well, he did say he was drunk...may have a lot to do with it.
@@scopedriver You took the words right out of my mouth. That, right there, has got to change your perspective and make everything more dramatic or exaggerated. I mean you can tell by the way he is explaining it, he is all ramped up. But like our cool pilot explains, it may not have been quite as bad as it seems.
It's amazing how Tucker was seated in the front of the plane, in the middle of the night was able to see the wing detach.
He didn't say he saw the wing detach, that's just malice and misrepresentation on your part. He said "the wing appears to detach", the photos do confirm that, it's likely he pieced the events together after he was outside the plane, he wouldn't know about the order of events.
@dkosmari from the front of the plane he did not see the plane on fire or any of the other stuff - which makes his whole conclusion that people can't process information debatable. From tuckers own story, you can determine that tucker can come to a conclusion without knowing the full story, and then rehash it for his own ends.
@@jago5373 "For his own ends" meaning to survive a possible fiery death? What do you mean he did not see the fire, are you making things up now? Sounds like you should be a journalist at MSNBC.
@@dkosmari bahaha the photos don't show the wing detached. Who's misrepresenting now?
He's exaggerating his story, it's what journalists of his calibur do. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Great video, Kelsey!
Let’s hear it for all the lightweight drinkers, we are cheap dates 🤣
The acoustics are fantastic in the room you are recording in!
According to Wikipedia the flight was October 17, 2001. Flight PK231 from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway at Dubai after the right hand maingear collapsed as it touched down. The aircraft skidded and eventually came to rest in sand 50 metres from the runway. The aircraft sustained damage to its right wing structure and its no. 2 engine, which partly broke off the wing.
Seems like Tucker exaggerated a bit.
Nah. Just lies a bunch.@@the51
Wikipedia? Okay?
@@Shotsmoky it's not nearly as unreliable as it used to be. Just doesn't report on new developments in science.
@@DavidSmith-vr1nb wikipedia is just what the CIA wants you to believe, and even then it screws up.
Hey K, havent been watching tube much lately. Congrats on the 4th stripe, Capt.
I came close to being in a plane crash once during one of my classes. I happened to be in the left seat of a wingless Cessna 152 to test the nose wheel steering and the brakes, and the rest of the class was pushing the plane across the hangar. During the test, I looked up and saw the wall coming up, so I tried slamming the brakes, which did nothing since the brakes didn't work. At that point, I was at the mercy of the class hoping they realized what was about to happen. They eventually got the plane stopped, but by the time it was stopped, it was about an inch away from the hangar wall.
😂😂😂
Thank you for your service, you brought up some tough memories of my time attending car servicing reports.
I used to be really scared of flying as it combines multiple phobias. Watching these channels, even Mayday disasters really does help. As Captain says a'lot of the source of the fear is the lack of understanding of various noises and sensations from the plane. Learning more about the reason for all of this really does alleviate a'lot of the fear.
Mentour pilot is very good too. He's a lot of stories about how the pilots professionalism saved the Day
I found an article that included an email from Tucker's dad from hours after the incident. Landing gear failed to properly deploy. It was 2am over water. The out of control feeling in the air was from loud noises but otherwise normal turns during approach. On landing gear was turned and then collapsed. The collaspe caused structural failures so I am guessing it was a hard landing also. Right side was blocked by fire. Middle left side exit unable to open because of structural damage. A large crack was near the door Tucker, his dad, a CIA person, and a CNN person went out.
Source?
You could have saved some words in the last sentence there; "A large crack was near the door the CIA personnel went out". ;)
Of course they slipped out like a weasel can.
Haha hell yeah! Like a slippery spineless two faced nefarious slimy slithering slippery little weasel
@@deannalassiter2088 Like you wouldn''t huh? Just stop...bravery while sitting at home looking at your screen. Tsk tsk tsk.
Also, since it's Tucker, there's a decent chance that any given claim is just made up.
We were on a flight from Chicago to Amsterdam and the worst windstorm to hit the coast in decades was building offshore. The turbulence grew so bad people were losing their breakfast and screaming and praying. There was a sudden explosion and for what felt like ages I couldn’t see or hear anything. Vision returned first and the flight attendants looked terrified as they worked their way to the windows. Then I noticed the lights in the plane were out. For a moment I thought the wing had exploded but we weren’t plummeting. The lights came on again and it felt crazy to be relieved that we were back to the violent turbulence. The pilot announced it was lighting, and it’s a safe bet everyone in this comment section knows planes can cope with it.
We were the last plane to land that morning and everyone else was diverted.
The pilot did an astonishingly awesome job on the landing and we were all cheering in gratitude for him.
My son who was about 5 at the time remembers it all differently. He was laughing and having a great time on the super bouncy plane. It was a ride at an amusement park for him, flashing lights and noise included.
Ha ha, me recuerda mi hijo de Miami a Buenos Aires.( 4 years old,) cada vez que había turbulencia,el feliz diciendo bien fuerte..., otra vez mami.
El resto de los pasajeros malos porqué no lo corregia. No way.
Me reía con él.
Los aviones no son hechos con alas de mariposas.
😅😅😅
That sounds like moderate turbulence, it’s rare but pilots will encounter it several times in a career.
Now imagine galley carts bouncing off the ceiling and people breaking bones. That would be severe turbulence.
Extreme turbulence can (permanently) bend the airplane.
@@mascarenhas9624 That was me as a 10? year old kid (on my own) on a flight through a thunderstorm. :^)
Ese era yo cuando era un niño de ¿10? años (solo) en un vuelo a través de una tormenta. :^)
One thing that surprises me is that they don’t have cameras that let the pilots see what’s happening with the engines and wings. I’ve heard several stories where the passengers have told the cabin crew an engine was on fire or having trouble so they told the pilots or the pilots asking the cabin crew what they could see. Obviously the instrumentation lets them know there is a problem but visual is still best.
I agree. People by the millions have bought cheap cameras installed near their doorbells. Why can't such things be designed into strong points on the wings or fuselage?
Some do IIRC. Pretty sure the A380 has at least one (top of vertical stabilizer, looking forwards) that can be displayed in the cockpit. Good for a quick check but there's a limit to how much detail one can resolve on a small screen. A proper determination really requires someone experienced (cabin or flight crew) to directly inspect things. Of course, examining under the fuselage is a different story.
The DC-3 lets you open the windows and stick your head out to check.
I agree. Almost every new car has parking sensors and backup cameras. Yet we still have airplanes hit things with the wingtips because the pilots don’t know they’re getting too close to something.
After watching a lot of air disaster videos, the lack of cameras to allow pilots a view of wings, engines, and landing gear is indeed surprising, considering the technological advances in cameras. It has the potential for pilots to make a quicker determination of problems so they can move on to a course of action.
“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.”
Think I found it: "On 17 October 2001, Pakistan International Airlines flight 231, an Airbus A300, from Islamabad via Peshawar veered off the side of the runway after the right-hand main landing gear collapsed as it touched down."
This made the engine and part of the wing move out of place. The "explosion" was probably the right main gear failing.
So, what we are looking at is a drunk passenger's recollection of a heavy landing followed by an over-run.
All passengers and crew walked away unhurt.
The hull looked to be a total loss. So Tucker's recollection is not entirely bad.
Tucker making things up.I'M shocked.
Yep the up and down and yawing all happened on the ground when the gear collapsed
It doesn't even have to be a drunk person. Some people remember things in a different. It depends on their personality. One time I was helping a friend move and he had rented a box truck. He was driving along when a deer appeared. It was about 100 feet to the front of us but it was to the left of us and it moved around but it never tried to move across the road. My friend told about this incident to another friend and he said the deer had started to cross the road just as we got within 50 feet of it. I looked at him and told him the deer was far away it had never made a move to cross the road. He gives me odd look. But when I think about it. It seems like anything that happens with him is always some epic encounter. He's always hungry for attention.
After that and watching others who seem to be choosing the words that make them seem like something exciting had happened. I now without any immediate response.
I actually looked this up as well and that was the flight I ended up with too. I assumed Tucker was confusing things a little.
crash landing into a sand dune is not the same as gear failing and rolling off the sdide of the runway
Kelsey apparently hasn’t ever been on any Italian cruise ship where the crew/Captain leave the passengers to fend for themselves. Lol
he stated that he knows plenty of pilots that would dip. there is a difference on what your duty is and what your actions become in scary situations.
Yeah, that guy had zero sense of honor. That would not happen on a ship from say, America, or Asia. There is a duty, even if it is not a "Rule". To some people, being responsible _is_ a rule!
Always a good day when there's a new video from you, Kelsey.
About two weeks ago I was watching a live feed from ORD in Chicago. I saw an Atlas Air
cargo plane taxi, then take off. I don't know who was in the left seat of the cockpit, but
just in case ... I waved at you.
I'm sure by "front windows" he meant the cockpit windows, not specifically the front cockpit window as opposed to the side cockpit window. You yourself go on to say they have "...sliding windows on the FRONT..." immediately after that.
@JungleCruiseSkipper The front windows in the cabin are opposite the back door.
@@AntonioPeralesdelHierro, the cockpit has a window that opens and the pilot can climb out there in an emergency, this is what he's referring to, not the forward facing windshield. He calls it the front window because it's at the front of the plane as opposed to the back, not because you hate him.
I think it's an anecdote and not really an essential detail. It's highly likely that the pilots did not leave the aeroplane early. It's a careless way to tell a story, people might become scared of flying as a result, but the point was about the air host who apparently froze-up - but it's highly likely he actually said "it's not safe to disembark right now, everything's fine and under control, just be patient" - and this led to some realisation from Tucker. I would have liked to hear the ending of the story, but that's also not what THIS video is about.
I like the way Kelsey breaks things down, he presents well and is very interesting, but I wouldn't take Tucker's story beyond the meaning of the anecdote.
Those sliding windows are in the front, that's fer sure.
@@theinqovExactly. He's telling a story.
He didn't say "double aught". He said "double aisle", which I have used many times for "widebody".
I heard "double aisle" also, but flight PK231 was an A300.
Edit: whoops, A300 is double-aisle.
@@NelsonBrownI mean the A300 is described as a dual aisle aircraft all over the place. Sometimes referred to as twin aisle. A random passenger call it double aisle instead especially to differentiate the size of other airliners they have been on is probably pretty common.
@@NelsonBrown google swearch a300 interior. tons of setups with 2 isles.
@@Rainmotorsports yes you're right. Sorry I was remembering A300 wrong as a single aisle. My bad!
He said double aisle airbus. Which would match an A300 series.
However generally the term used is “twin aisle” or “wide body”, but Tucker is not an AvGeek or aviation journalist.
@@av_oidnevertheless, he said "double-aisle" not "double-aught," and that's a common way for people to describe planes configured like that A300.
Yeah, I heard "double-aisle", as well
@@pjaypender1009 I think I heard "double-aught", which would make sense.
It was an A300. It was a normal flight and normal landing until the right maingear collapsed and it skidded off the runway about 50 meters and came to rest in a sand dune. The airframe was later sunk off the coast of The Palm to make an artificial reef, you can dive on it right now.
*Carlson's flight was one of these two (from PIA's records):*
October 17, 2001
121
Incident: Main landing gear collapsed
Plane Model: Airbus A300B4-203
Year Built: 1983
Flight Number: PK-231
Flight: Islamabad - Peshawar - Dubai
Location: Dubai International Airport (United Arab Emirates)
Fatalities
Crew: 0
Passengers: 0
May 25, 2001
Incident: Unknown explosion causing the rupture of aft pressure bulkhead
Plane Model: Airbus A300B4-203
Year Built: 1981
Flight Number: PK-305
Flight: Lahore - Karachi
Location: 110 miles away from Lahore (Pakistan)
Fatalities
Crew: 0
Passengers: 0
Has to be the first one, because he said it was after 9/11 (in 2001).
Wouldn't there be passengers if he was on board?
@@lieutenantdan2217 These details don’t list the number of passengers, they list the number of fatalities (which were 0 fatalities for crew and 0 for passengers as well)
@@HRHDMKYT it is the first one, if we can believe another comment here that states his father mentioned landing gear issues in an article.
@@renegranit240 I’m just looking at the dates. The second one happened May 25/2001, which was before the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center were destroyed by terrorists. Carlson says his experience happened after Sept 11/2001.
I think Tucker may have said "double aisle", which is what an Airbus a-300 is. A wide body jet with two aisles.
I also heard, "double aisle"
I thought the same...sounded like "double aisle", which makes sense w/that plane type. Nonsensical for Tucker to have said -" double-ought" , i.e. "OO"8
Thank you, Kelsey. I'm a nervous passenger. Your videos have calmed me.
Here's my theory.
-The "explosion" might have been the hard landing sound.
-The engine roaring might be the "reverse thrust".
-The loud rattling noise might have been from the landing gear getting collapsed and the engine getting scrapped across the ground while being deformed and used with reverse thrust.
The flight attendant might have been right.
Also I think he referred to A300 as a "double aisle aircraft".
TC is lucky when he opened the door he didn't find himself in a fire or sucked into an engine.
Yes might be and might not be
Another commenter said was over there at the time and his recollection was the plane lost an engine on final. That lines up well with Tucker's story.
@@-ThunderLines up well with Carlson's story? He said the wing detached in mid flight! He also said there was some rebuttal of the explosion theory, so yeah, smells of fish.
@@davefandango1303 Considering Tucker is recounting his feelings as a non-pilot years later: mid flight and final approach may mean t the same to him. Losing a wing panel or seeing debris may have been inaccurately expressed as the “wing falling off”. The local news did, in fact, recount Tucker being the first person off the plane as he indicated in his story. So an event happened that was serious and Tucker experienced it. Do you want the NTSB to arrest him for over dramatizing it for effect in a speech? Some of the people in these comments are unhinged.
Serving alcohol was previously allowed on PIA flights up until the 70s when alcohol was banned in Pakistan.
This crash happened in 2001, so either they changed the rules again or Carlson was half in the bag before he got on the plane (or, ya know, he's using "alternative facts" again).
It could account for the flight attendant's attitude to him as well, if he was half cut and it's and it's an emergency. Basically: "Calm the flip down, and stop trying to start a stampede."
Rules are only meant to be broken.
@@Bad_Wolf_Mediaor he had a flask in his sock 😅
i kept on telling my wife I graduated 2nd in my high school class but then when I found my old commencement materials, I was ranked 4th lol
Small town with only six people in your class what a bummer
I definitely feel a sense of pride and accomplishment looking at your FOUR stripes, Kelsey! On your behalf, of course. You are, without doubt, the most entertaining and interesting aviation channel "host" that I know of. And obviously doing well on the flight deck too. Well done!
for me the most intense scene of the sully movie was when he stands at the docks and is recalling the number of passagners again and again and is waiting for confirmation that everyone got saved. "thats my number, thats my number..".
greetings and thx for the video.
"Does anybody need to see more simulations." was a good one too.
Kelsey: "planes with only one wing fall out of the sky"
McDonnel-Douglas F-15 Eagle: Hold my beer!
Look up the 1983 Negev mid-air collision accident, where an IAF F-15 Eagle lost almost entire right wing in mid-air collision and managed to get back home to base in the remaining piece. It's a very fascinating story of aerodynamics and just pure pilot's willpower and flight skill.
"Given enough thrust, even a brick will fly!"
The thrust to weight ratio on an F-15 would probably keep it flying with both wings missing - Until fuel runs out of course.
I was looking to see if anyone mentioned this. Several people replicated this with radio controlled models, it was proven possible at scale, but took a lot of attempts. Goes again to the proof that having a human at the controls makes a big difference.
Landing speed might be a bit high without wings. You might be ok landing at Edwards. :)@@Plexyglazz
@@Plexyglazz Doc says "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
@@williamgreene4834Conversely, if you're landing on vectored thrust, landing speed could be REALLY low.
I really enjoy how getting sucked into an engine is “really embarrassing” or your engine exploding on an airplane seem like an example brought up in every video. Your commentary always entertaining.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story...
The truth has never been known to survive an encounter with Tucker.
I know right? It's not like he kept telling America that he survived a helicopter flight UNDER FIRE..... oh wait... That was Hitlary...
@SanityTV_Last_Sane_Man_Alive Thought you were talking about Biden for a second... you know, publicly lying for the last 50 years and all....
I was in a brutal plane crash in the mid 80s, despite dumping all the fuel, bombs and rockets.
It turns out Commodore 64 games didn't have physics so it made no difference whatsoever and we died anyway.
My condolences on your... loss.
@@jamesengland7461Thank you. Life as an 8 bit ghost has been surprisingly consistent with my previous existence, but it's nice to be remembered.
I broke a 4-color flight simulator game eons ago, one that was played off an 8-inch floppy disk. No idea what I did, but you could then forever just drive over the water as if it were land. I was garbage at getting into the air and couldn't land anyways, so for once I was able to complete my missions. Maybe it was your 8-bit spirit helping remove my need for wings.
Nice video Kelsey. I found it refreshing with a good flow. You seemed engaged, interested and excited about the topic you were presenting. You interject humour which gives the show a lighter more inviting feel.
People's varying recollections of the same occurrences is fascinating. And yes, the recollections/experience that Mr Carlson presented would be very different than an experienced aviator such as yourself. Such matters are hugely important in aviation mishap investigations. Keep up the good work Kelsey. So long as you decide to produce content, there's many of us who will continue to watch.
Yes! Hoping for no crashes.
Thanks for your channel.
Ha, that written report at the end completely changes the image I had in my head. I was thinking this was a in the middle of the desert crash landing.
Ends up this was a landing at an airport that didn't go well.
Tucker stated loud bang and part of the wing came off, they turned sideways.landing in a sand dune (the report stated: on landing the Rt. landing wheels collapsed, the plane slide sideways landing in a sand dune 160 ft from the runway, with the plane facing 90 degree away from the direction of the runway. portion of wing missing)
How does that so greatly differ from what Tucker said.
@@jackccrofootjr7228 Touchdown was on the runway. That was the detail Tucker omitted. He probably seriously thought they were in the air when all that was happening.
The Tucker story makes it sound more dramatic than is actually was. He was half drunk, so I'm not surprised he isn't a great historian on what happened.
@@CommentsAllowed I agree. He was probably asleep and wasn't aware they were approaching the airport to land.
@@jackccrofootjr7228 It's different from reality because of the man speaking. The commentors prefer their state-sanctioned media to him.
@@boldCactusladI’m not American but isn’t it tiring to live like that? Always thinking “the others” are being political about whatever stuff
When he said he was intoxicated, that summarized it for me.
Probably very relaxed.
@@barbarachambers7974 Truly. Twilight Zone relaxed.
I was waiting for him to say he had to dodge sniper fire while running away from the plane, then the plane blew up 10 seconds after he got off.
@@toddsmith8608that would be Brian Williams. 😅😅😅😅😅
@@krisbearcat1 and Hillary too
I just found your site by accident and I'm glad I did I subscribed and II like the way you explain things.
There’s also the factor that Tucker Carlson is a famous dude who’s playing to an audience and embellishing things, which is what he probably does for a living anyway.
did he made putin look like a nice guy, in his last interview ? i did not watch, cant stand TC
The jet's wing totally detached -- a journalist you can trust.
"We come into a sand dune, the plane is on its side" vs "We landed on the runway and the plane ran off the runway"
"We lost the wing but the plane keep going up and Down" up in the air and down underground ? At least he admit he was wasted.
The crash landing happened, and if you ever experienced even a hard landing you know it's terrifying. 😅He's basically telling a life story, he is not doing investigative journalism.
When people on the left tell a story it will become "their truth" but when a man who disagrees with you tells a story it's a lie. 😂😂
It’s always a great day when Kelsey posts 😊
Cool generic comment, welcome to my block list
Absolutely !!!!
It would have been a better day if the title was current
It is a great end of the day for me, because he posts videos (now every other) Sunday at 10 PM in my country, right when I'm getting ready to sleep. ❤ I can sleep peacefully after getting my bi-weekly dose of Kelsey. 😂
@@LadyVoldemort that’s pretty cool! Sleep well!
That guy sounds like every two seconds he’s both surprised and second-guessing what he himself just said 😂
@ragdoll86 - LOL! One of the best comments to describe him! And it can so simply be proven by watching just the first 10 seconds on this video.
Amazing analysis. Great way to explain how events most likely unfolded while maintaining the original storyteller’s dignity. Well done!
F.O. : "we've lost an engine, and another one is on fire!"
Captain Kelsey : "Cool. No big deal".
Should be pretty fun to be in an emergency situation, in a plane, with Kelsey as a pilot. Must be one hell of a party.
I just hope he brings enough snacks for everybody.
Like Wombat said once "i want to be the guy who is sitting in the Airbus cockpit detached from the main fuselage wich is over there and i would be saying "i still think i can pull this off" "
I feel like Kelsey is only a pilot for the free breakfast 😂
Explain.
That, and the fact that he can tell everyone else he's a pilot... We all do it! It's one of perks! 😄
i mean all those flight hours cost a lot of money or pay pretty poorly...you learn to save any way you can and free breakfast fills the belly and reduces your grocery bills coming out of your income...so yeah, it becomes a lufestyle even after you start making decent wages
What's to explain? Hotels serve breakfasts, Kelsey likes free breakfasts? And the comment was sarcastic an humorous in nature! 🙄@@McSynth
@@McSynth Are you new here? Kelsey just loves free food! You'll see how much if you stick around!
Memory is a funny thing. I am 77 years old and was a commercial pilot for almost 40 years. Even events with my family I will often ask my sibling. Is this how you remember the situation? It is true that he was impaired by alcohol, fatigue, Unfamiliar with aviation mishaps. But I think he remembers vividly the announcement of the lead flight attendant. “everything is fine. “That was the illustration he was trying to make. It’s true that some people embellish situation, but I think he was just trying to illustrate what is going on in the world today. I think some people called it cognitive dissonance. People can be in the situation of approaching danger, and even death and be unable to accept what is going on. Their mind won’t reject their previous programming and perception even in the face of overwhelming facts.
On the other hand, once the airplane had come to a stop after running off the side of the runway, everything was, for the most part, fine. It wasn't really a dissonant statement.
Yep. That was the whole point. Tucker did a good job with his analogy.
Yes, exactly, unable to accept reality even with a high degree of situational awareness. I had a very-near death experience, my body being almost completely cut in half and all I could say was "No!" This was unacceptable...simply unacceptable.
Cognitive dissonance is a thing.
Sounds like Tucker might've been a little more drunk than he remembers
I like your delivery, your storytelling style, and I like your side-stories, too!
Kelsey I can’t appreciate you enough for highlighting the cabin crew.
People in Tower One were told to wait for the fire department, too. I’ve watched too many of these plane crash videos and have decided in any situation if my brain says go , I’M GOING! I must tell you YOUR videos have made me much more calm as I’ve always been fearful to fly. More so as I’ve gotten older. Thank you for your prescient explanations.
I remember someone released an audio of a dispatcher talking to an irate fellow who was on a floor that the fire department could never reach; she was aware of the situation and couldn't tell him the truth; he and everyone there were going to die. She was weeping as he berated her - and the last words he said into his phone were 'WTF'. I can imagine how AWFUL that moment was for her; I cannot and refuse to imagine what it was like for him.
Love your style. Enjoyed this very much.
“Recollections may vary…”