So much honesty, i wasn't expecting this after your rebuttals with him on youtube - this has so much love, respect to you for turning this into a friendship. ❤️
Such wise advice to Kurt Tay like cutting expenses. He does not need 4 phones or 4 SIM cards and the monthly storage issue. He must learn about 断舍离 and learn what it means by less is more. Thanks for the insight & I really hope that Kurt can set himself free. Sneaky and Yeolo are masters at their craft and they grind super hard and Kurt must have know the difference 1st, it's not easy
Thanks for doing this. This is probably the only Non-Exploitative video that Kurt Tay has appeared in and it really showed a side of Kurt that not many have seen. It got kinda frustrating at times, when he got defensive or hard-headed and refused to take advice. But in the end, we can also see that he does not see you as a hater and he genuinely wants help from you. I hope this is a stepping stone to a better life for him & his fam!
Thanks for saying this. I planned very carefully with an especially long and detailed list of things I WOULD NOT discuss for this very reason and it's very heartening that you think it's non-exploitative. There are many low-hanging fruits when you interview KT but they often get in the way of really seeing his true character
@joheus There’s a reason behind his defensiveness. I believe it has something to do with his childhood and bullying. When a person is frequently bullied or outcasted from a young age by their society, they naturally developed a defensive mechanism towards people whom might be a threat to their mental wellbeing and self worth. Unfortunately, not many people and especially in Singapore where the lack of empathy is extremely common. People like Kurt may come across as “being stubborn” even though it was a response from their past experiences…
I appreciate you giving Kurt advice and talking to the dude in a non-exploitative way. I've also been in a Kurt Tay Rabbithole and i think your content is probably the most genuine in wanting to help out the dude, kudos to you man. But watching this actually made me feel kinda bad for the guy. When you're earning low pay you really feel like a lot of the financial advice and tips you can find online don't apply to us because you need double or triple of what we're currently earning in order to make things work. I think im in a similar situation where due to my laziness when i was in my teens and studying stupid shit that has no demand which has locked me into a situation where i work shit jobs for shit pay. I definately understand why someone like Kurt would want to go for courses and get rich quick schemes in order to get out of this situation, cuz It sucks to be stuck like that when you're not earning enough to live like a normal average singaporean, and when you're trying to look for advice and tips to better yourself you're either only able to scrape and scrouge a couple hundred bucks which like what kurt says; its not gonna be a life changing amount, or they don't apply to you cuz the cost to entry is just so high. Still, your patience and willingness to help Kurt is very inspiring. Makes me feel like I can pick up my own bootlaces and help myself out too.
It’s so weird to see the both of y’all exist in the same plane after so long. Thanks for this man. Never thought it would happen and its refreshing to see him being treated with respect.
Honestly I think you are the only person that really reach out to Kurt time and time again with an olive branch. It's incredibly frustrating to see him throw good advice in the rubbish bin every single time.
Finally you managed to get Kurt Tay for a nice long talk. I am just halfway through the video and I get a feeling that Kurt does not understand everything you are saying. Dumbing down some of the jargon will be easier for Kurt to understand.
Hey. Salute to you, being so understanding to him. Kept telling him to be humble and 脚踏实地. The only thing I hope is that he can provide his kids with a proper education and environment, to get out of the poverty cycle. Hopefully he dont ruin his kids life. I really like the part where you talked about attitude in life/work. There's no free lunch in the world. The advices you gave are solid.
This is a very good interview! The interviewer asked very good questions, takes the extra effort to understand him and to explain things to him on his level..
You really have the patience of a saint. Can tell that you really try your best to open his mind and to understand his mindset. I sincerely hope that you have gotten thru to him even a little bit.
Great podcast, would love to see more of you and Kurt , Chit chatting or even having a sequel. Personal I feel nobody is perfect and Kurt is a good example of that. There’s a lot of room where he could improve but he’s at stage of life right now with 2 kids and even having the responsibility to support his parents so it’s hard for him to make a dramatic change. Maybe a suggestion to him would be to get Financial aid from the gov which he would most definitely needs when his kids starts going to primary school ie(uniform/tuition/textbooks) so it would be ideal for him to start saving up some cash. Or even consider starting a side business to earn some extra income. Something like what Steven Lim’s doing would be nice where he could do Short clips of him giving shout out and use his acting skills and get paid. Nevertheless Kurt’s a colourful individual who has a lot of potential to improve , but I hope he takes your last pointers to heart as his RUclips channel clearly needs a touch up. (Shorter tittle/simplified version of Q&A) From my bottom of my heart, I wish him all the best in his future endeavours , would be looking forward to the actual new Kurt Tay not the ones he say only but the one where he starts steps to change and improve on his life’s situation. 👍
Commend the both of you to sit down and unpack all that has happened before. Wei Choon I think you've done Kurt quite a favour for not only allowing him to explain his thought process in so many areas of his life, but also help more Singaporeans view him in a different, more 'human' light. In fact this episode could very well be part of the small-step saying that was mentioned - hopefully someday somehow, more doors would open for Kurt and he would be able to make wise, conscientious decisions towards a better life for his family. Gotta also give it to Kurt also. Maybe at times he appeared to be quite quick to shut down suggestions before thoroughly processing the possibilities, but mostly he has shown incredible restrain in his otherwise rather defensive character. And being humble enough to not only do this podcast but also to genuinely seek advice from you at the end. I feel like we all kinda know the type of humour Kurt offers through his strange personality but fundamentally we're secretly rooting for him. His persona and entertainment value is unique, and it's only the matter of how he capitalises on it through the right channels, I highly agree. Good stuff lah, seriously. Much love from KL bro.
Omg! I dun believe u really paid him. You are really a blessed nobleman to him, paid him, give him precious advices to be better; and now, it is up to him. The whole conversation, he is still in his own dream to be famous.
Just stumbled upon your video and it's such a treat. Yes we find Kurt an interesting character but we are all secretly rooting for him to do better. Ultimately what he decides to do with his financials and his life is his own decision to make and we are just here for the ride
very surprised at the level of self awareness that kurt has. i noticed this when i had lunch with him a few years back as well. up till today i'm not sure where the true kurt ends and where the persona begins, or even if there is a persona there at all.
I did it. I watched the whole 1 hour and 49 mins of this interview. All I can say was that I was so fricking frustrated as kurt was being too stubborn and rejected your advice. Goh Wei Choon, you gave alot of solid advice which can help improve his current financial state, such as paying for the storage space and having multiple sim card. But the fact that he was too stubborn made me pulled my hair man. Especially when he is the sole breadwinner having to support his wife, children and his parents. People gave you advice on how you can improve your current situation now, you asking for jobs that are higher paying. Gwc, respect to you man for conducting this interview. If i was in your shoes, I dont think the interview would last this long lmao. I would get too frustrated halfway then just cao.
But 脚踏实地 doesn't work for him. He can't go back to school and there are no Skills Future courses that will get him a much better job. He is stuck in the gutter and is desperate for a "creative" and disruptive breakthrough. He still has dreams, but he lacks the talent to make them come true.
There were times in your conversation where it seemed like Kurt couldn't quite grasp your concepts. I hope you keep in contact with Kurt and explain it again in a way he understands. The most frustrating for me was his insistence on a quick and drastic increase in his income as his only way out of his situation. I hope you are able to convince him that climbing that mountain will take many steps, because not all of us are born with helicopters to help take us there.
Excellent video there, Wei Choon! Adding on to the 人緣 part, I think what Kurt can do to improve his viewership and engagement would be to work on how he presents himself. In my opinion, Sneaky Sushi, Yeolo and Dean Yap did well in that aspect.
Amazing interview and the only one that doesn't make fun of him while pretending to showcase him (e.g: AfterSchool Therapy, those bengkia Lukey-chan/Simonboy channels and the various small-time SG youtube channels). This is a deep interview that allows us to understand Kurt's issues: 1) He lacks social awareness/etiquette and has no filter, and further confirms my suspicion that he has high-functioning autism. This is especially obvious at the Bo-lieve/Manifest section of the video. 2) In addition to 1) above, his lack of social cues, etiquette and awareness of what should be done at what time (e.g: eating his own ejaculation, poop on video) further confirms this. 3) To make matters worse, his parents have spoilt him too much since young (as evident at the part where Kurt shares his upbringing) and did not teach him the concept of 'Repercussion' as a kid ("Boy boy, you cannot do this otherwise will....." etc.). 4) Not sure if I heard it correctly in the video, but Kurt says his parents don't allow the grandkids to move in to the new BTO flat? Meaning Kurt and wife live in new BTO, but parents demand grandkids to stay with them in existing HDB? If so, this is a bizarre thing to request Kurt. 5) A lot of these behavior can all be traced back to the parents, a good case in point is Amos Yee. 6) With regards to the jobs, if Kurt comes out of jail, if he wants to get out of the security guard hole, his best bet is to learn a trade skill aka air-conditioning / plumbing, work as a staff for others for a couple years or so, build contacts, then come out and start his own handyman sole-proprietorship outfit. It is something that can be scaled up and will be better than a deadend one like security guard. That's what my uncle did, and enough to bring up an entire family. 7) Kurt's strength in content making is not in being witty or funny, but raw and personable (within societal norms of course). He doesn't need to try too hard, just making those food review videos where he film himself buying food in various hawker centers in SG, and talks casually about the latest news in SG/world as he eats, would draw a lot of viewers. Not a fan of SneakiiSushi (kiam pah face), Yeolo (slightly better) and JianHaoTan/TitanAcademy (seems like it's made for pri/sec school kids). A good example is what Sam Sulek the bodybuilder is doing on his channel. No wittiness, no fancy crap, no crazy editing.
It is sad to see that Kurt wants the best of both worlds. He is only willing to work hard, take stress, on things that he love (like acting, wrestling) - which may not pay well or any at all. For jobs that can pay to his expectations, he doesn't make it to the bar to qualify (such as being a lawyer). Kurt needs to get real. He needs to know what are the important issues on hand, and be willing to do anything it takes to improve it. Stop whining and wallowing in self-pity and taking "short-cuts" like believing (or bolieving) in 30mins a day and $10k per month job. He needs to start bolieving in himself and be positive, and not repeatedly emphasizing that he is poor, low education, and putting himself down. Kurt's situation will never improve if he can't break his current mentality, move out of his comfort zone, quit watching dramas during shift hours instead of watching useful videos (be it a skill or a knowledge) to help him pivot into a more value added job that can command higher salary. Ultimately, the life is his. People can only advise so much and point him in the right direction. If Kurt is unwilling to even take the first step himself, nobody can help him.
So glad this finally happened! Hopefully it becomes a regular thing so maybe over time there might be some positive outcome, no matter how small it may be! Best wishes to both and all (:
good video and mad props to you Wei Choon. No offence to Bluebird bros, but i like this interview a lot more than the Bluebird's one. Maybe i should put it this way, Bluebird's one is more entertaining, but this one is more educational and deeper. this one struck a chord with me more so i really enjoyed it. Liked.
whole video is excellent but especially 1:39:33 thanks for bringing this up! I doubt it swayed him much given that they've been friends for a while, and I suspect Kurt is aware that he's being used as a punching bag, denying this fact (as with much else) because WL is his sole source of physical companionship excluding immediate family. But sometimes a diplomatic and earnest voice can succeed in nudging someone closer towards accepting painful truths, and throw into clarity what would otherwise be conveniently ignored, and that's exactly what you lent him here. Far more than the AST team too, since their objective from day one was to milk drama and cringe humor from their subjects, contrary to their stated mission. The full-tilt idiocy, shitkicking and harassment on their Telegram (which you were right to leave, lol, it's gotten much worse in the past week) is proof of this
@@meshgearstonks it wasn't easy to get him to do this and we called it off a couple times. He had 2 requirements: 1. He must be paid 2. He will need to film the whole thing himself on his own phone, and the entire thing will be uploaded onto his channel after my cut is published. The 2nd condition was a difficult one for me because I am very cognizant of how easy it is to come off like you're laughing at or exploiting Kurt Tay in an interview so it was very important for me to have exclusive edit rights so I can control context. Kurt refused to do this without filming his own version. Eventually I agreed to let him film. The trade-off was that I had to be extremely careful in how I conduct myself during the interview because I would not be able to edit his full version. This took a great deal of planning and I wrote a long list of topics I would NOT talk about in this interview. I'm happy with how it turned out in the end though. We both had a good time and I won't kena cancel
@@Choonzord See that's what I like about Kurt - you can accuse him of many things, but never abandoning the hustle! Seriously though, it rules that you two got to collaborate anyhow, since this is (sadly) the only instance I've seen of a "man-behind-the-mask" style uncovering of the KT persona that doesn't a) treat him as the interviewer's pet psychiatric project, a puzzle that only they have the wisdom to assemble for the uninitiated b) mine his scandalous past for laughs by hitting the guy with sensitive questions designed to bait him into giving absurd and potentially incriminating responses, or c) present him as some pitiable fool who lacks the mental faculty to take stock of/assess his situation, whose actions (some morally questionable ones involving Kim's passport and the kids too, which I'm sure you're aware of) can be excused wholesale by way of doddering stupidity - small wonder this bleeding heart approach hasn't stopped Kurt's haters from licensing their attacks with righteous fury. To see someone try and engage with Kurt on his own terms, not for external gain, not to advertise oneself, not to score easy clout, without falling into any of those three presets which characterise the typical KT video (well, of the handful that exist), that's really heartening to see. You're a real one
1:05:10 is frustrating 😭😭😭 you tried explaining professional pride several ways but all he understands is money 😂😂😂 mad respect for your patience, you'll be great with kids!
mad respect (to both parties)! nice to see the two of you able to sit down and have a civil conversation. hope that kurt is able to take away some things of value. appreciate your patience in dealing with him
This interview is a classic case study of how scams/scammers are proliferating - there are so many vulnerable but simple-minded individuals who are so desperate for money and easily manipulated by all these get-rich scam artists
@@Darrylklim Okay I put on spotify, link in the video description, lmk if it doesn't work for you. Be careful, don't fall down while listening to this and runninng lol
@@Choonzord thanks for uploading this interview. I didn't fall down ytd during my run lol. Not sure if you remember me but I dropped by ur booth at comic con earlier this year with my wife and son lololol big fan of ur work !!
Thank you for the video! Hopefully Kurt can view with an open mind and try out some of the suggestions from Goh. I don’t feel he is a half hater, if anything he seems genuinely concerned and really wants to help you. Also, fully agree on Ron K - that guy has 1000% scammer vibes all over.
just chanced upon this amidst all the shitshow that's happening to kurt. loved how you were trying to be as open to his thoughts and reasons but still trying to get him to do the 'right' things.
Kurt is only willing to put in effort on things that he likes to do...unfortunately life doesn't always allow everyone to do what they like - Kurt is immature in this aspect by failing to recognise this fact.
@@Choonzord I'm afraid this might be happening again with Lesnar, starting from his reliance on diapers and formula milk. One thing can lead to another.
@@Choonzord in a way, i feel that his parents were also partly responsible for his mindset and values that he holds in life. And he will likely project it onto his kids who will turn out like him and face the same situation as him in future. No offence to his parents or anything, but sometimes parental influence can be quite strong.
Using Skillsfuture for career switch to Data Analyst, Data Science, Software Engineering etc. is unlikely to work out for a huge majority of people, because the course is probably highly inadequate (mine was software development). It only worked for me because I'm lucky. What would be most helpful for him in changing to better career is human connections, i.e. having an expert to personally guide him to improve his fundamentals, and another expert to guide him what resources to look for in a field that he's interested in, but then this also boils down to luck.
Thanks for this podcast. It is a prime example of agreeing to disagree. Can see there are some things that he disagrees with you but at least there were no bad blood. Maybe some smaller suggestions to help him, such as using the KAIZEN philosophy to help him, making small changes that would have big impacts. Though KAIZEN is used for companies, but kurt tay is half god so perhaps KAIZEN helps. E.g. He can still watch videos at work, but perhaps watch educational videos like on finance, BTO or even YOUR RUclips channel. that way he does not need to stop video streaming, but at least he does not waste time watching trashy things that does not increase his knowledge. Another could be to bring his kids out for a walk around the park (Yishun alot of parks I think). That way time is spent and he walks to be slightly healthy. or he can even dance with his kids to some popular songs. But wei choon, still a good job but I have to share, likely this would be a long term endeavour to help and it would not be an overnight solution. Perhaps this podcast can be a bi-monthly check to see if he has made any marginal improvements and we can also see his improvements first hand. (increases your viewer base too). My humble 2 cents. I am a "half hater" of kurt and I did send some sarcastic replies here and there, when it was obvious he was gonna do smth outrageous or stupid. But hope to see his life turn around for the better
@gohweichoon I like the last part of you ‘scolding’ him to be 脚踏石地。he keep telling us he wants higher pay with less stress but he needs to know with his limited skills and his unreasonable demand, no such job of high pay with no stress; he just blame everyone and everything except himself; he needs to be more competent and have different skillset to do a good job so that employers will willingly to pay him more if they see him more responsible
Agree.. He needs to uds that he needs to show his potential employers what he can offer, before demanding a high pay, not asking for employers to give him high pay first, then he work hard. It doesn't work like that in the real world.
This feels like a 2nd part to the man after Bluebird way's episode. stuff from both episodes can be inferred to get a somewhat better picture. but s for the finance aspect He isn't alone. there are many who are like him exactly in his situation in almost every aspect of job and qualifications hence understand his frustrations. Thanks for planning this carefully.
Very nice interview, Gwc you treated him with respect, but a leopard will never change their spots, i am afraid your good and clever advice had already fall on deafened ears...but you did your best, good on you, you have my respect gwc
Im not into kink-shaming but I hate what he's doing because of what it'll probably bring for his kids. Do quietly in private nvm. But he do so openly. His kids gonna kena in school.
He's fearful of any changes to his financial lifestyle. He has not noticed he's like an ignorant frog in boiling water. Good luck to his family members
I saw Kurt Tay and clicked. Otherwise wouldn't have listened to this. But glad I did, and bro you're a great host. Kurt, you need to take advice from people who are knowledgeable and kind enough to help. Your 4 year old needs to go to childcare. He will suffer from Pri 1 when he is behind because he is not educated. You need to send him. Your dad can work and therefore you can stop paying $250 x 2 to parents. You will then have more money. 4 sim cards, trash them. SIMBA TPG gives 100GB a month, much cheaper than 4 sim cards. And get rid of the storage space. In a year you can have $10000 more than today. Do the numbers! Your kids need a fresh and correct start to life. Get them into childcare so they can be educated otherwise they will be the same as you and have low paid jobs for life. So do the right thing for them, please!
@@Choonzord it's mostly your advice. Just consolidating your stuff, works about $10K a year saving. Perhaps that number will a bit more wake up call. And the next part is the kids. This is the most critical to ensure the cycle does not repeat. Must get the kids to preschool. Once they can read they will not be left behind in Primary school.
@@CapDingo1975 yeah the maths works out, if the kids go to childcare, his parents go back to work, he gives up the storage space and consolidate to 1 SIM card, it's around $800 saved a month: $800 X 12 = $9600
Bro Goh did u pay KT more for this interview? 😂 He 死要面子 one unless got $$$$ he will be willing. After all still the same he doesn’t want to change or improve himself. But money where got so easy fly down from the sky one? Hope after he will reflect about working harder next, not for the sake of his 面子 but for the sake of his family. 放下面子重新再来。
KT 🪓chop bro Goh vegetable head. 😬 But indeed bro Goh helped him overcame some expenses for his family. Hope he will make use of this $300 bring the kids to fast food instead of eating himself or buy this buy that.
Some more comments to add. I think Kurt should learn to stay healthy as well. The amount of junk food he is consuming is quite alarming. His bmi is definitely unhealthy. As he has 4 dependents, his dad and mum plus 2 children, he cannot afford to let his body breakdown. But sadly he think he is half god so his health will always be in tip top condition. And thats a dangerous mindset.
He also blames his wife for not going to work 🤣 He thinks that if the wife starts working, they can be rich. I am pretty sure he has some mental issues. Him having a family is already very irresponsible decision, he can be irresponsible to himself but he chose to bring a life into the world and now another human being needs to suffer. How many people born into poverty gets to get out of it? Some more with a crazy dad...
Kurt, I am very sorry, if I only can choose you to be my lawyer, I just tell the judge to just plead me guilty, sentence me to maximum sentence by 2 fold. Don’t waste time with mitigation. I have zero faith in lawyers already and you can still entertain such thoughts
I don’t meant any disrespect but I wonder has it occur to Mr Goh that Kurt might be on the Autistic Spectrum? A high functioning one. A condition which Kurt might not even know it himself. As back in the day, it’s a condition that is not widely understood. They have normal and even very high IQ but have issues expressing themselves and socialising.
You are so patient speaking to a stubborn man who refused to listen good advices and have poor financial literacy.
So much honesty, i wasn't expecting this after your rebuttals with him on youtube - this has so much love, respect to you for turning this into a friendship. ❤️
Such wise advice to Kurt Tay like cutting expenses. He does not need 4 phones or 4 SIM cards and the monthly storage issue.
He must learn about 断舍离 and learn what it means by less is more. Thanks for the insight & I really hope that Kurt can set himself free.
Sneaky and Yeolo are masters at their craft and they grind super hard and Kurt must have know the difference 1st, it's not easy
Thanks for doing this. This is probably the only Non-Exploitative video that Kurt Tay has appeared in and it really showed a side of Kurt that not many have seen. It got kinda frustrating at times, when he got defensive or hard-headed and refused to take advice. But in the end, we can also see that he does not see you as a hater and he genuinely wants help from you. I hope this is a stepping stone to a better life for him & his fam!
Thanks for saying this. I planned very carefully with an especially long and detailed list of things I WOULD NOT discuss for this very reason and it's very heartening that you think it's non-exploitative. There are many low-hanging fruits when you interview KT but they often get in the way of really seeing his true character
Meanwhile 3 months later, Kurt says he don't want your help no more
@joheus
There’s a reason behind his defensiveness. I believe it has something to do with his childhood and bullying. When a person is frequently bullied or outcasted from a young age by their society, they naturally developed a defensive mechanism towards people whom might be a threat to their mental wellbeing and self worth.
Unfortunately, not many people and especially in Singapore where the lack of empathy is extremely common. People like Kurt may come across as “being stubborn” even though it was a response from their past experiences…
no way this happened 😮
the sequel we’ve all been waiting for!!!
I appreciate you giving Kurt advice and talking to the dude in a non-exploitative way. I've also been in a Kurt Tay Rabbithole and i think your content is probably the most genuine in wanting to help out the dude, kudos to you man.
But watching this actually made me feel kinda bad for the guy. When you're earning low pay you really feel like a lot of the financial advice and tips you can find online don't apply to us because you need double or triple of what we're currently earning in order to make things work. I think im in a similar situation where due to my laziness when i was in my teens and studying stupid shit that has no demand which has locked me into a situation where i work shit jobs for shit pay.
I definately understand why someone like Kurt would want to go for courses and get rich quick schemes in order to get out of this situation, cuz It sucks to be stuck like that when you're not earning enough to live like a normal average singaporean, and when you're trying to look for advice and tips to better yourself you're either only able to scrape and scrouge a couple hundred bucks which like what kurt says; its not gonna be a life changing amount, or they don't apply to you cuz the cost to entry is just so high.
Still, your patience and willingness to help Kurt is very inspiring. Makes me feel like I can pick up my own bootlaces and help myself out too.
It’s so weird to see the both of y’all exist in the same plane after so long. Thanks for this man. Never thought it would happen and its refreshing to see him being treated with respect.
Thank you Kurt and Steven for providing entertainment for us. I always watched their funny videos after a bad day in school
Honestly I think you are the only person that really reach out to Kurt time and time again with an olive branch. It's incredibly frustrating to see him throw good advice in the rubbish bin every single time.
kurt basically just got a free(and possibly paid) 2 hour life counselling
ya paid is correct. I paid him to do this hahahaha
😂😂
500 dollars?
It is great to have a podcast with Kurt Tay as we can learn more about Kurt Tay life . Great Job Goh Wei Choon
You handled this interview very respectfully. Thank you for doing this ❤
Kurt is extremely unique. You are right.. once his specialty is tapped right, hitting the correct notes, Kurt popularity will shoot
Finally you managed to get Kurt Tay for a nice long talk.
I am just halfway through the video and I get a feeling that Kurt does not understand everything you are saying.
Dumbing down some of the jargon will be easier for Kurt to understand.
agree, i also kick myself when I watch back during the editing process.
Hey. Salute to you, being so understanding to him. Kept telling him to be humble and 脚踏实地. The only thing I hope is that he can provide his kids with a proper education and environment, to get out of the poverty cycle. Hopefully he dont ruin his kids life.
I really like the part where you talked about attitude in life/work. There's no free lunch in the world. The advices you gave are solid.
This is a very good interview! The interviewer asked very good questions, takes the extra effort to understand him and to explain things to him on his level..
Top notch production! This is great!
we need more of such content especially kurt tay episode please do more! Cheers!
You really have the patience of a saint. Can tell that you really try your best to open his mind and to understand his mindset. I sincerely hope that you have gotten thru to him even a little bit.
Kurt , you must listen to him, he is guiding you to be patient and successful !!
Great podcast, would love to see more of you and Kurt , Chit chatting or even having a sequel.
Personal I feel nobody is perfect and Kurt is a good example of that.
There’s a lot of room where he could improve but he’s at stage of life right now with 2 kids and even having the responsibility to support his parents so it’s hard for him to make a dramatic change.
Maybe a suggestion to him would be to get Financial aid from the gov which he would most definitely needs when his kids starts going to primary school ie(uniform/tuition/textbooks) so it would be ideal for him to start saving up some cash.
Or even consider starting a side business to earn some extra income.
Something like what Steven Lim’s doing would be nice where he could do Short clips of him giving shout out and use his acting skills and get paid.
Nevertheless Kurt’s a colourful individual who has a lot of potential to improve , but I hope he takes your last pointers to heart as his RUclips channel clearly needs a touch up.
(Shorter tittle/simplified version of Q&A)
From my bottom of my heart, I wish him all the best in his future endeavours , would be looking forward to the actual new Kurt Tay not the ones he say only but the one where he starts steps to change and improve on his life’s situation. 👍
Commend the both of you to sit down and unpack all that has happened before. Wei Choon I think you've done Kurt quite a favour for not only allowing him to explain his thought process in so many areas of his life, but also help more Singaporeans view him in a different, more 'human' light. In fact this episode could very well be part of the small-step saying that was mentioned - hopefully someday somehow, more doors would open for Kurt and he would be able to make wise, conscientious decisions towards a better life for his family.
Gotta also give it to Kurt also. Maybe at times he appeared to be quite quick to shut down suggestions before thoroughly processing the possibilities, but mostly he has shown incredible restrain in his otherwise rather defensive character. And being humble enough to not only do this podcast but also to genuinely seek advice from you at the end.
I feel like we all kinda know the type of humour Kurt offers through his strange personality but fundamentally we're secretly rooting for him. His persona and entertainment value is unique, and it's only the matter of how he capitalises on it through the right channels, I highly agree.
Good stuff lah, seriously. Much love from KL bro.
Omg! I dun believe u really paid him. You are really a blessed nobleman to him, paid him, give him precious advices to be better; and now, it is up to him. The whole conversation, he is still in his own dream to be famous.
Kurt is obviously quite deluded, but this video gives us valuable insights into his mindset. It's good material which I would pay for.
holy shit, watched you review his financials and now he's alive in front doing this podcast? You just made my week!
Just stumbled upon your video and it's such a treat. Yes we find Kurt an interesting character but we are all secretly rooting for him to do better. Ultimately what he decides to do with his financials and his life is his own decision to make and we are just here for the ride
OMG., you finally did it! This is very refreshing.
very surprised at the level of self awareness that kurt has. i noticed this when i had lunch with him a few years back as well. up till today i'm not sure where the true kurt ends and where the persona begins, or even if there is a persona there at all.
Surprise which direction? Is he MORE self-aware than you expected or LESS?
I did it. I watched the whole 1 hour and 49 mins of this interview. All I can say was that I was so fricking frustrated as kurt was being too stubborn and rejected your advice. Goh Wei Choon, you gave alot of solid advice which can help improve his current financial state, such as paying for the storage space and having multiple sim card. But the fact that he was too stubborn made me pulled my hair man. Especially when he is the sole breadwinner having to support his wife, children and his parents. People gave you advice on how you can improve your current situation now, you asking for jobs that are higher paying. Gwc, respect to you man for conducting this interview. If i was in your shoes, I dont think the interview would last this long lmao. I would get too frustrated halfway then just cao.
But 脚踏实地 doesn't work for him. He can't go back to school and there are no Skills Future courses that will get him a much better job. He is stuck in the gutter and is desperate for a "creative" and disruptive breakthrough. He still has dreams, but he lacks the talent to make them come true.
There were times in your conversation where it seemed like Kurt couldn't quite grasp your concepts. I hope you keep in contact with Kurt and explain it again in a way he understands.
The most frustrating for me was his insistence on a quick and drastic increase in his income as his only way out of his situation. I hope you are able to convince him that climbing that mountain will take many steps, because not all of us are born with helicopters to help take us there.
Excellent video there, Wei Choon! Adding on to the 人緣 part, I think what Kurt can do to improve his viewership and engagement would be to work on how he presents himself. In my opinion, Sneaky Sushi, Yeolo and Dean Yap did well in that aspect.
Agree man
Amazing interview and the only one that doesn't make fun of him while pretending to showcase him (e.g: AfterSchool Therapy, those bengkia Lukey-chan/Simonboy channels and the various small-time SG youtube channels).
This is a deep interview that allows us to understand Kurt's issues:
1) He lacks social awareness/etiquette and has no filter, and further confirms my suspicion that he has high-functioning autism. This is especially obvious at the Bo-lieve/Manifest section of the video.
2) In addition to 1) above, his lack of social cues, etiquette and awareness of what should be done at what time (e.g: eating his own ejaculation, poop on video) further confirms this.
3) To make matters worse, his parents have spoilt him too much since young (as evident at the part where Kurt shares his upbringing) and did not teach him the concept of 'Repercussion' as a kid ("Boy boy, you cannot do this otherwise will....." etc.).
4) Not sure if I heard it correctly in the video, but Kurt says his parents don't allow the grandkids to move in to the new BTO flat? Meaning Kurt and wife live in new BTO, but parents demand grandkids to stay with them in existing HDB? If so, this is a bizarre thing to request Kurt.
5) A lot of these behavior can all be traced back to the parents, a good case in point is Amos Yee.
6) With regards to the jobs, if Kurt comes out of jail, if he wants to get out of the security guard hole, his best bet is to learn a trade skill aka air-conditioning / plumbing, work as a staff for others for a couple years or so, build contacts, then come out and start his own handyman sole-proprietorship outfit. It is something that can be scaled up and will be better than a deadend one like security guard. That's what my uncle did, and enough to bring up an entire family.
7) Kurt's strength in content making is not in being witty or funny, but raw and personable (within societal norms of course). He doesn't need to try too hard, just making those food review videos where he film himself buying food in various hawker centers in SG, and talks casually about the latest news in SG/world as he eats, would draw a lot of viewers. Not a fan of SneakiiSushi (kiam pah face), Yeolo (slightly better) and JianHaoTan/TitanAcademy (seems like it's made for pri/sec school kids). A good example is what Sam Sulek the bodybuilder is doing on his channel. No wittiness, no fancy crap, no crazy editing.
Love the video. Please release a part 2. If haters find out he not moving in to his new BTO, HDB will confiscate his house.
Great podcast,big up and respect to the host. Well done keep it up!
It is sad to see that Kurt wants the best of both worlds. He is only willing to work hard, take stress, on things that he love (like acting, wrestling) - which may not pay well or any at all. For jobs that can pay to his expectations, he doesn't make it to the bar to qualify (such as being a lawyer).
Kurt needs to get real. He needs to know what are the important issues on hand, and be willing to do anything it takes to improve it. Stop whining and wallowing in self-pity and taking "short-cuts" like believing (or bolieving) in 30mins a day and $10k per month job. He needs to start bolieving in himself and be positive, and not repeatedly emphasizing that he is poor, low education, and putting himself down.
Kurt's situation will never improve if he can't break his current mentality, move out of his comfort zone, quit watching dramas during shift hours instead of watching useful videos (be it a skill or a knowledge) to help him pivot into a more value added job that can command higher salary.
Ultimately, the life is his. People can only advise so much and point him in the right direction. If Kurt is unwilling to even take the first step himself, nobody can help him.
Kurt learn helplessness is heart breaking
Honestly you could draw alot of parallels between him and Chris Chan. To the point it's really freaky.
omfg i can see the similarities
Omg thank you 4 turning my dream into reality. I have been asking 4 this like 4ever. Can't believe this is 4 real 😊
So glad this finally happened! Hopefully it becomes a regular thing so maybe over time there might be some positive outcome, no matter how small it may be! Best wishes to both and all (:
At least now from this interview, I get to know Kurt Tay more and the reasons behind why he wanted to created videos that will attract more viewers.
good video and mad props to you Wei Choon. No offence to Bluebird bros, but i like this interview a lot more than the Bluebird's one. Maybe i should put it this way, Bluebird's one is more entertaining, but this one is more educational and deeper. this one struck a chord with me more so i really enjoyed it. Liked.
honestly bluebird's was veering slightly on the exploitative side imo
whole video is excellent but especially 1:39:33 thanks for bringing this up! I doubt it swayed him much given that they've been friends for a while, and I suspect Kurt is aware that he's being used as a punching bag, denying this fact (as with much else) because WL is his sole source of physical companionship excluding immediate family. But sometimes a diplomatic and earnest voice can succeed in nudging someone closer towards accepting painful truths, and throw into clarity what would otherwise be conveniently ignored, and that's exactly what you lent him here. Far more than the AST team too, since their objective from day one was to milk drama and cringe humor from their subjects, contrary to their stated mission. The full-tilt idiocy, shitkicking and harassment on their Telegram (which you were right to leave, lol, it's gotten much worse in the past week) is proof of this
Also out of curiosity, how did you convince him to sign up for this?
@@meshgearstonks it wasn't easy to get him to do this and we called it off a couple times.
He had 2 requirements:
1. He must be paid
2. He will need to film the whole thing himself on his own phone, and the entire thing will be uploaded onto his channel after my cut is published.
The 2nd condition was a difficult one for me because I am very cognizant of how easy it is to come off like you're laughing at or exploiting Kurt Tay in an interview so it was very important for me to have exclusive edit rights so I can control context.
Kurt refused to do this without filming his own version. Eventually I agreed to let him film. The trade-off was that I had to be extremely careful in how I conduct myself during the interview because I would not be able to edit his full version.
This took a great deal of planning and I wrote a long list of topics I would NOT talk about in this interview.
I'm happy with how it turned out in the end though. We both had a good time and I won't kena cancel
@@Choonzord See that's what I like about Kurt - you can accuse him of many things, but never abandoning the hustle! Seriously though, it rules that you two got to collaborate anyhow, since this is (sadly) the only instance I've seen of a "man-behind-the-mask" style uncovering of the KT persona that doesn't a) treat him as the interviewer's pet psychiatric project, a puzzle that only they have the wisdom to assemble for the uninitiated b) mine his scandalous past for laughs by hitting the guy with sensitive questions designed to bait him into giving absurd and potentially incriminating responses, or c) present him as some pitiable fool who lacks the mental faculty to take stock of/assess his situation, whose actions (some morally questionable ones involving Kim's passport and the kids too, which I'm sure you're aware of) can be excused wholesale by way of doddering stupidity - small wonder this bleeding heart approach hasn't stopped Kurt's haters from licensing their attacks with righteous fury. To see someone try and engage with Kurt on his own terms, not for external gain, not to advertise oneself, not to score easy clout, without falling into any of those three presets which characterise the typical KT video (well, of the handful that exist), that's really heartening to see. You're a real one
1:05:10 is frustrating 😭😭😭 you tried explaining professional pride several ways but all he understands is money 😂😂😂 mad respect for your patience, you'll be great with kids!
mad respect (to both parties)! nice to see the two of you able to sit down and have a civil conversation. hope that kurt is able to take away some things of value. appreciate your patience in dealing with him
Yeah he was actually quite amiable in person
This interview is a classic case study of how scams/scammers are proliferating - there are so many vulnerable but simple-minded individuals who are so desperate for money and easily manipulated by all these get-rich scam artists
Yeah and this is a man who has gone for 3 classes, 2 of which are "scammy" and he had negative experiences from.
Great work, great video!
Is this going to be a podcast uploaded on Spotify?
Eh I didn't plan for this but if you want I can upload this one episode if it's easier for you to listen to
@@Choonzord eh yes I want leh I wanna listen when I run. Thanks !!!!!
@@Darrylklim Okay I put on spotify, link in the video description, lmk if it doesn't work for you. Be careful, don't fall down while listening to this and runninng lol
@@Choonzord thanks alot! It works appreciate it
@@Choonzord thanks for uploading this interview. I didn't fall down ytd during my run lol. Not sure if you remember me but I dropped by ur booth at comic con earlier this year with my wife and son lololol big fan of ur work !!
Thank you for the video! Hopefully Kurt can view with an open mind and try out some of the suggestions from Goh. I don’t feel he is a half hater, if anything he seems genuinely concerned and really wants to help you.
Also, fully agree on Ron K - that guy has 1000% scammer vibes all over.
just chanced upon this amidst all the shitshow that's happening to kurt. loved how you were trying to be as open to his thoughts and reasons but still trying to get him to do the 'right' things.
Kurt is only willing to put in effort on things that he likes to do...unfortunately life doesn't always allow everyone to do what they like - Kurt is immature in this aspect by failing to recognise this fact.
It can be a bad thing to not draw boundaries for your kids to teach them that you can't just get everything you want in life.
@@Choonzord I'm afraid this might be happening again with Lesnar, starting from his reliance on diapers and formula milk. One thing can lead to another.
@@Choonzord in a way, i feel that his parents were also partly responsible for his mindset and values that he holds in life. And he will likely project it onto his kids who will turn out like him and face the same situation as him in future. No offence to his parents or anything, but sometimes parental influence can be quite strong.
Using Skillsfuture for career switch to Data Analyst, Data Science, Software Engineering etc. is unlikely to work out for a huge majority of people, because the course is probably highly inadequate (mine was software development). It only worked for me because I'm lucky. What would be most helpful for him in changing to better career is human connections, i.e. having an expert to personally guide him to improve his fundamentals, and another expert to guide him what resources to look for in a field that he's interested in, but then this also boils down to luck.
Thanks for this podcast. It is a prime example of agreeing to disagree. Can see there are some things that he disagrees with you but at least there were no bad blood.
Maybe some smaller suggestions to help him, such as using the KAIZEN philosophy to help him, making small changes that would have big impacts. Though KAIZEN is used for companies, but kurt tay is half god so perhaps KAIZEN helps.
E.g. He can still watch videos at work, but perhaps watch educational videos like on finance, BTO or even YOUR RUclips channel. that way he does not need to stop video streaming, but at least he does not waste time watching trashy things that does not increase his knowledge. Another could be to bring his kids out for a walk around the park (Yishun alot of parks I think). That way time is spent and he walks to be slightly healthy. or he can even dance with his kids to some popular songs.
But wei choon, still a good job but I have to share, likely this would be a long term endeavour to help and it would not be an overnight solution. Perhaps this podcast can be a bi-monthly check to see if he has made any marginal improvements and we can also see his improvements first hand. (increases your viewer base too).
My humble 2 cents. I am a "half hater" of kurt and I did send some sarcastic replies here and there, when it was obvious he was gonna do smth outrageous or stupid. But hope to see his life turn around for the better
@gohweichoon I like the last part of you ‘scolding’ him to be 脚踏石地。he keep telling us he wants higher pay with less stress but he needs to know with his limited skills and his unreasonable demand, no such job of high pay with no stress; he just blame everyone and everything except himself; he needs to be more competent and have different skillset to do a good job so that employers will willingly to pay him more if they see him more responsible
Yeah one thing I forgot to bring up was the concept of 先苦后甜. That would've really brought the point across.
Agree.. He needs to uds that he needs to show his potential employers what he can offer, before demanding a high pay, not asking for employers to give him high pay first, then he work hard. It doesn't work like that in the real world.
Good job staying away from the sensational stuff and diving deep
Ty for your help man, really helped me focus hahaha
Can see you getting frustrated but huge ups for being patient in explaining to Kurt tay 😂
This feels like a 2nd part to the man after Bluebird way's episode.
stuff from both episodes can be inferred to get a somewhat better picture.
but s for the finance aspect He isn't alone. there are many who are like him exactly in his situation in almost every aspect of job and qualifications hence understand his frustrations.
Thanks for planning this carefully.
U can be a counsellor sia.... The amount of patience.....
No job is without stress. Being a security guard no stress meh? Anytime also can have danger meh? No stress? 😊😊
Very nice interview, Gwc you treated him with respect, but a leopard will never change their spots, i am afraid your good and clever advice had already fall on deafened ears...but you did your best, good on you, you have my respect gwc
thoughts on his current drama?
Im not into kink-shaming but I hate what he's doing because of what it'll probably bring for his kids. Do quietly in private nvm. But he do so openly. His kids gonna kena in school.
@@Choonzord when is the next collab?
higher confident hope
He's fearful of any changes to his financial lifestyle. He has not noticed he's like an ignorant frog in boiling water. Good luck to his family members
I saw Kurt Tay and clicked. Otherwise wouldn't have listened to this. But glad I did, and bro you're a great host.
Kurt, you need to take advice from people who are knowledgeable and kind enough to help. Your 4 year old needs to go to childcare. He will suffer from Pri 1 when he is behind because he is not educated. You need to send him. Your dad can work and therefore you can stop paying $250 x 2 to parents. You will then have more money. 4 sim cards, trash them. SIMBA TPG gives 100GB a month, much cheaper than 4 sim cards. And get rid of the storage space. In a year you can have $10000 more than today. Do the numbers!
Your kids need a fresh and correct start to life. Get them into childcare so they can be educated otherwise they will be the same as you and have low paid jobs for life. So do the right thing for them, please!
Thanks. Agree with your advice also.
@@Choonzord it's mostly your advice. Just consolidating your stuff, works about $10K a year saving. Perhaps that number will a bit more wake up call.
And the next part is the kids. This is the most critical to ensure the cycle does not repeat. Must get the kids to preschool. Once they can read they will not be left behind in Primary school.
@@CapDingo1975 yeah the maths works out, if the kids go to childcare, his parents go back to work, he gives up the storage space and consolidate to 1 SIM card, it's around $800 saved a month:
$800 X 12 = $9600
My Son is study K1 go to school every day.What u typing
Since when did I says I didn't send my Son go to school study?
Oh no, I ‘ve never heard of his name until now 😅
Bro Goh did u pay KT more for this interview? 😂 He 死要面子 one unless got $$$$ he will be willing.
After all still the same he doesn’t want to change or improve himself.
But money where got so easy fly down from the sky one?
Hope after he will reflect about working harder next, not for the sake of his 面子 but for the sake of his family. 放下面子重新再来。
I paid him 300 bro Ang, and I covered his cab fare both ways.
@@Choonzord why still cover his cab fare?
KT 🪓chop bro Goh vegetable head. 😬
But indeed bro Goh helped him overcame some expenses for his family.
Hope he will make use of this $300 bring the kids to fast food instead of eating himself or buy this buy that.
Some more comments to add. I think Kurt should learn to stay healthy as well. The amount of junk food he is consuming is quite alarming. His bmi is definitely unhealthy. As he has 4 dependents, his dad and mum plus 2 children, he cannot afford to let his body breakdown. But sadly he think he is half god so his health will always be in tip top condition. And thats a dangerous mindset.
13:31 kiam pa face? Jian hao
Respect
OMG HIS MINDSET. ITS DEAD! Why the hell did he start a family.
He also blames his wife for not going to work 🤣 He thinks that if the wife starts working, they can be rich. I am pretty sure he has some mental issues. Him having a family is already very irresponsible decision, he can be irresponsible to himself but he chose to bring a life into the world and now another human being needs to suffer. How many people born into poverty gets to get out of it? Some more with a crazy dad...
He resign himself to fate already. His mum's clan is 脚踏实地 but his is 一步登天.
Kurt, I am very sorry, if I only can choose you to be my lawyer, I just tell the judge to just plead me guilty, sentence me to maximum sentence by 2 fold. Don’t waste time with mitigation. I have zero faith in lawyers already and you can still entertain such thoughts
He should pay you money for the interview, this is more like a counselling. 😂
GWC looks like Dir En Grey Kaoru
eh no la he is 500X more handsome hahaha.
I'm the "We have Kaoru at home:"
I don’t meant any disrespect but I wonder has it occur to Mr Goh that Kurt might be on the Autistic Spectrum? A high functioning one. A condition which Kurt might not even know it himself.
As back in the day, it’s a condition that is not widely understood. They have normal and even very high IQ but have issues expressing themselves and socialising.
It has occured to me yes. That's why I'm very careful about how I talk to him hahaha. I suggested he go see a therapist but he won't.
His son next time no need attend school ahh …😂😂😂
can see you damn pekcek sia.. kept sighing 😅
He's really not taking in any of the good advice you're giving him.
P R O M O S M
nobody really give a f to kurt tay tbh... lol
kurt tay!!!! always prefer him than SLKK
how many of your brain cells died after talking to him?
WITHIN THE FIRST MINUTE, I CRINGEEEEE SO BADLY AT HIS INTRODUCTION. THAT SECONDHAND EMBARRASSMENT.
Now he is into bdsm
WTF
si gina kurt tay