It is a solid and reliable truck that doesn't have as much as the superfluous technology that will soon break in most new vehicles. I also really like the old school boxy look. I am also glad I didn't turn into a taco fanboy, I would've had to start using the word "bro" and I don't like fruit flavored beer. @@BrosFOURRSpeed
@@meme-bj1pe so is the Tacoma. It doesn’t have much more tech than the Nissan. And it’s also boxy lol Wouldn’t buying the Nissan make you a fanboy of Nissan? I’m buying the taco and wouldn’t say that..
@@knightnes Plus real bump stops, solid shock towers, non-breaking transmissions, and made in USA, not Mex, which some people still care about. A new white Mexican soft Taco pulled up next to me today, and that thing was WEIRD looking, like a cartoonist designed it. WAY too many body lines jammed into one place.
I’d take the frontier any day. In the long term the v6 is proven reliability and will last longer than even a Toyota turbo four. You can also find it far below sticker at some dealerships. I also prefer the fully physical layout of the frontiers controls while still having a large infotainment screen and the heavier more solid feeling hydraulic steering. Most everything the Frontier is missing in the video vs the tocoma can be optioned
Toyota is number one in reliability for a reason. The 4 cylinder has been proven over several decades, so it's long term great. Personal preference as well, I'll never buy the nissan, tacoma any day for me!
Why use a Frontier that's more of a base model than a model more optioned out? For example. Truck beds. The Tacoma has a plastic bed. Yeah, plastic. The Frontier also comes with a spray on bed liner and Nissan's track system, which is excellent. Steering? Nissan stayed with the traditional hydraulic steering, which gives the driver a better, more realistic steering feel between the steering wheel and front wheels. The Tacoma uses electric steering which is very light. The driver doesn't have the same feel between the steering wheel and front wheels as with traditional hydraulic steering. Nothing show stopping for either system. For me personally, two show stoppers for the Tacoma. 1) the 4-banger on steroids (turbo) and the Tesla like interior with the 'iPad' sticking up out of the dash. No thanks. Nissan's truck is more traditional in many respects and will appeal more to the traditional truck buyer looking in the midsized segment.
This video shows the Pro4X vs TRD Sport. Very comparable trims. The Pro4X is literally the top of the line for the Frontier and very on par in price to the TRD Sport. Also it's hard to be picky with which trucks to use. These were the only ones on the lots. The fact that I even had a chance to film a PRo4X with a new Tacoma is hard to even do. I do prefer the hydraulic steering, but it's just very heavy in slow speeds on the Nissan. Makes it a bit annoying off road. Both have good things to offer and the Nissan is more simple. Tacoma is more modern. So both will appeal to different buyers.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedI guess you can't be picky. Have to use what's available I guess. Your Pro 4X was not the fully optioned out model. The bed I mentioned and yours did not have the premium Fender audio system. Another thing missing on the new Tacoma is under the hood insulation. Cheap! That's not good for noise insulation or the hood paint. How long will the paint last taking all that heat?
@@nvpoolshooter my 3rd gen Tacoma didn’t have insulation under the hood, made zero difference. Hood was perfect after 6 years sitting outside.. why do you think insulation under the hood would protect the exterior paint? That’s not true..
@@Ksass23 well like I’ve already said, these trucks were the same price, so if you are cross shopping and looking to spend this money, here’s your options…
Nice video. Two weeks ago I test drove both of these vehicles and ended up buying the Pro 4X after the drives. Totally loaded with features and drives great. Comfortable and easy to enter and exit and sit as a person over 6' tall. Pro 4X was a better value and I actually had several to choose from on the lot at a good price. If you're on the fence, just test drive them both and see what you think (if you can find a 4th gen Tacoma locally).
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I’m glad you guys are being the guinea pigs for us lol. I want the new 4Runner coming out. It’ll still be Japan built and hopefully any iforce kinks will be worked out by then. Toyota has had 4cyl turbos for a while but now they’re doin “truck stuff” so it’ll wear different over time.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed better in terms of featuring the tried and true NA V6 vs. the new V4 turbo. But, time will tell. Most importantly it's the pricing though. Toyota has become overly greedy.
@@stinct1776 it’s not new, new for the Tacoma though. You get way more option with the Tacoma vs the frontier, so just depends on what the buyer wants.
That's on top of saving MORE via "hecho en Mexico," and eliminating bump stops so shock towers blow out, and both manual and automatic transmission early failures, and the TFL blown diff...all this for one high price, that fanboys will STILL pay ro get their brand identity fix, and the PERCEIVED Toyota "reliability. "
the 4cylinder is in the highlander and some lexus vehicles for the last couple of years. it’s been reliable so far. toyotas are usually reliable although they have had some growing pains with some engines(oil burning rav4’s in the mid 2000’s and grenading early 3.5 v6’s). if you haven’t driven one you really should. the engine and 8 speed blow the v6 and 6 speed out of the water. they are just severely overpriced right now.
@bwhit707 Never been any DI issues with Nissan DI engines. The previous generation Frontiers 4.0 265hp engine used for 15 years was DI. No problems. My 2012 had 160K trouble free miles before I traded it in on a 2024 Frontier.
Thats great to hear; I only made the comment based on generalized reporting of carbon buildup issues in DI only engines. I like the new gen Frontier , I wish it had a telescoping steering column. That might not be an issue for most, but im 6'1 and spouse is 5ft. If the 24 Toyota doesn't pan out I might re focus on a Frontier then. I need the 6ft bed.
@@ruffriding2k2 I was just shopping between these two and could get the Pro4X (as of two weeks ago) with their current discounts for a full $9200 less than the TRD. Maybe a full $10K with some wheeling and dealing. Not a fan of turbo 4cyl engines long term. They tend to lose performance over time in my past experiences with them
Yeah we'll have to see how well this new 4cyl can last and handle! Toyota has lots of experience with turbos in other markets. So hopefully this engine is rock solid
I have the last generation of the Nissan Nismo. Driving the 2024 PROEX4 feels just like my Nismo, like it hasn't changed much from the previous model. I like the simplicity of the newer features that aren't overdone. I just hope the milage is better on the new one.
Take RUclipsr comments with a grain of salt. He misrepresented the TFL video. The taco beat the Nissan, but the overall winner was the ford ranger in drag race
@@ruffriding2k2 so you acknowledge then that theres a disadvantage for NA motors. Cause when you're towing or hauling elevation doesn't care for excuses
Bought my Nissan Frontier brand new in 2023 and have had 0 issues and it’s my daily driver. 12k miles already and I have no regrets. It’s the better truck and the engine is so smooth and powerful for a NA midsize truck.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed “It’s just my opinion”. I know that my Frontier is a better truck than the older Tacoma’s because I drove both before I made a decision and don’t regret it either. The newer Tacoma’s haven’t been proven yet for reliability but I will give them the upper hand on the interior vs the Frontier but personally I like the simplicity of the Frontier over the Tacoma because I’m not a big fan of the iPad screen. Just my thoughts since I have been in both trucks. Either way it’s better than the American trucks and you can’t go wrong with either one.
@@TRDRyan That screen is an option, you can get a smaller one. But either are great for what works best for the buyer! This engine isn’t new though, it’s been around a while. Just new for the Tacoma.
2023-24 Frontier climbing up on the reliability list because Tacoma turbo engines got issues. I'd definitely stick with the naturally aspirated V6 engines for longevity.
I haven't seen anything bad on the Tacoma engine yet. We'll have to see as time goes own with what these trucks can do. Frontier is definitely a solid choice. But other than the old school bulletproof engine, the Tacoma is a better truck in every way. Costs a lot more tho. So we'll see
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Bruh because we don't have RUclips money to spend $55k+ on a baseline truck. But even if you're not making that much it is absolutely not worth the price for what you get. Plus all the reports of the recent transmission failures and break downs. Also new Taco's look way too "Futuristic" which is not what most buyers want -- which is simplicity that the Frontier has. Plus imo new Tacos do not look good at all they look like Tonka Truck toys.
@@Ryan152103 you think I’m a millionaire? I’m not even close..people are buying $80K full size trucks all day, doesn’t make them a millionaire either.. But just depends on what you want to buy. I’ll never buy the frontier, not what I think is worth the money, so just buy what you’ll enjoy, I can’t wait for the Tacoma!
I think Nissans weak link will be that 9 speed. They sound great and all but as a former titan owner replacement parts up to 2023 were still extremely hard to get for Nissan. OE parts that is. The last gen tacoma was the most sold midsize. absolutely no shortage of parts.
REALLY?? Not so much any more. Go watch TFLoffRoad wher their 2024 Tacoma TRD BROKE trying to go over the same rock that a CHEVY had just gone over! Toyota is trash.
So one vehicle, in an offroad situation means all of them are bad? Not true at all. I agree, it should not have had an issue, but that does come with taking it off the pavement.
@@ruffriding2k2 tundra had very minor issues that were easily fixed. The new model theory of not buying was years past. Most newer vehicles are pretty for first years.
I considered both and ended up buying the 2024 Frontier. The major issue was the motor as I want it to tow a small travel trailer from time to time and I wanted adequate power without a turbo. The V6 with 9 speed tranny is very smooth and delivers good power and I won't have to worry about potential turbo maintenance issue during the life of the vehicle. This was a tough choice, though, because I really wanted the Toyota. I tried every way possible to make it my choice but just couldn't get over the 4 cylinder turbo engine with a towing requirement. I suppose if I were just looking for a car with a bed, I would be driving the Tacoma but it wouldn't be because it was a better truck, it would be because I wanted a Toyota.
Glad you enjoy it. I’m going Tacoma, towing is the same and it’ll handle it just fine. I have trailers and potentially a boat to tow it with and I’m not worried about that at all. But just depends on what the buyer wants.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I think the Tacoma "can" tow almost as much, but it is over the long term that worried me. If you only tow once in a while and light enough to not stress the 4 cylinder you'll be fine.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Sure, it can tow, but I won't pick a 4 cylinder to tow anything substantial. Some very light hauling, perhaps, but if that is a "must-have" for a vehicle, a 4 cylinder isn't what you're going to choose. Sure, it works in a pinch, but if you have the option to buy at least a 6 cylinder that is the best way to go. The problem with Toyota is that there isn't that option anymore in the Tacoma.
@@benjoseph260 I’d tow a 4500 pound boat with it and it would do fine. If you are towing heavy equipment or something, a full size or diesel is better, but it can still tow and be fine for what any midsize would do.
I drove the Frontier, Tacoma, and Ranger yesterday. The Frontier drove the best of all three. Tacoma was second and the Ranger last as it was constantly searching for gears and often was delayed due to the shifts. I drove the 2.3L and 2.7L Ranger with the same issues. The Frontier was my least favorite interior but best overall truck in my opinion. Frontier was the cheapest and best truck for me.
Ya I really liked the power on the Toyota though. Even though it’s a 4 cylinder it felt fast. If it was a bit more smooth I would have been sold on it.
"If you want that V6 sound..." I don't GAF about the "sound". I want the V6 ENGINE. How ridiculous to imply that the sound is the main reason to go with the V6.
Well from the comments we get. Lots of people comment on how they hat eat sound of a 4 cyl. So just pointing out what buyers seem to say as one other reason they like the V6
@@BrosFOURRSpeed It seems as if "sound of engine" is being used as an analogue to "qualities of engine". "I like the sound of that V6, almost certainly refers to the explicit notion of sound, but I think it is also referring to the implicit notion of "qualities of the engine" and everything that comes with it. Such as "I love the sound of the rescue chopper", means "I love the fact that the rescue chopper has arrived" more than it means they love the literal "sound". It should be assumed that those who "love the sound" of the V6 would also catagorize themselves as those who love the operative qualities of the V6. It would be totally assinine to "love the sound" of the V6, while hating the qualities of it's engineering and performance. Therefore, it is clearly an analogous term, and should not be taken literally.
I don’t always have access to different models at the same time, so possibly if that ever happens! But the ZR2 costs a lot more, so I was comparing similar priced trim levels.
I just bought a Pro4X over the new Tacoma, that 4cyl turbo is not very good. Turbo lag and not any better fuel economy. The Pro4X has everything you want and need in a midsize truck.
I didnt experience turbo lag at all. Much more powerful than the v6 and got right up to speed. Glad you enjoy that. I can’t wait for my 4th gen Tacoma.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I'll preface my comment with the Tacoma isn't bad, its just not worth at all close to what they're asking for them. Toyota has lost touch with its customer base. And I've been a Toyota Fanboy for the last 15 years.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedthe Frontier and Tacoma have been virtually tied in reliability over the last decade. It seems like you're generalizing Nissan vs Toyota. We all know the CVT trans issues have knocked Nissan down overall, but the Frontier doesn't use a CVT so it has had excellent reliability stats.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedwe are talking trucks buddy not in the same conversation when it comes to overall vehicle manufacturing Nissan trucks are pretty high up there
Test drove the Pro-4X. Didn’t care for the extremely heavy steering, the small digital screen in the instrument cluster was very dim also and hard to see in direct sunlight even with brightness turned all the way up. The technology also seems very old and outdated. The only pro in my personal opinion is the naturally aspirated v6. I have a 24 TRD OR on order. Toyota looks way more updated, i’ve owned the corolla in the past and the Toyota just looks way better. Will have higher resale value and the standard Toyota sense 3.0 is way more advanced than the Nissan in my opinion. Good review. Go Tacoma 🙌🏽
Everything about the Frontier looks better than the Tacoma with the one exception that Tacomas have more color options. I say this as a 2013 Tacoma owner. I know I'll be going for a Frontier if I decide to upgrade.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed it’s because it’s natural aspirated V6 just like my 2022 2WD Taco. When I purchased the Taco in 2022 the dealer lot ran out of 4WD and it was during the middle of the supply chain, at the same time I had just sold my 2003 4Runner and needed a vehicle. The dealership back then told me that the wait time was between 2 to 5 month for a 4WD. Catch 22 kind a situation.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yes will just have to see. Turbo is not exactly my forte, as for NA V6 has proven itself to be very reliable with just basic maintenance at proper intervals.
The Tacoma has a composite bed. It's actually very strong and durable. I don't think anyone has ever had issues with it cracking. Metal beds dent and get beat up. Tacoma beds seem to handle a lot! Plus you can even do a spray in bed liner on them too
Bought my 2024 frontier a month ago. Love it. I stepped inside the new taco but the interior was a turn off with the big taco stamp in the dash, the 4cyl turbo was a huge question mark and just overall fair(ish) price.
The Nissan for 2024 will be more reliable and the engine will last longer with no major problems. You can't beat naturally aspirated engines for longevity and reliability.
The Nissan drivers in the comments are trying too hard man... reliability it's the Tacoma and it's not even close... Resale is not even in the same universe. The only place the Nissan wins is price and that's because they lose all value once rolled off the lot. I'm taking a Colorado and maybe even a Ranger over the Nissan. I guess congratulations even being compared to a Tacoma but the Tacoma will always be king of the midsize unless Toyota decides to ruin their brand and stop making reliable vehicles for some odd reason. They won't.
The Frontier will win even more if they added for 2025: Telescoping steering wheel Fully digital cluster Larger updated screen. Better updated cameras Auto up/down on all windows. Rear vents Lighter steering Memory seats Pro Pilot 2.0 More comfortable rear seats (not sure how they would do that)
Sure anything could win with big improvements lol, we’ll have to see, Nissan is way behind on a lot in the last several years, might take them awhile to even catch up.
I uabe 2024 pro 4x nissan, i love the outside design better than the taco but the taco interior design is just bomb, 44k for nissan n taco full loaded its juat crazy 😂
@@josephmorales9625 Did you drive one? I like it much better than the V6 in my 3rd gen. I'll be using mine to tow 6k pounds as well. I don't see any problems with it
@BrosFOURRSpeed i did test drive before buying . In the end, the deal Nissan offered was good they gave me 26k for my 2019 Tacoma and the Pro X was 39k
I HAVE BEEN A TOYOTA TACOMA GUY FOR LONG TIME! TOYOTA SCREWED UP BY NOT TALKING TO CUSTOMERS AND ASKING THEM "WHAT DO YOU WANT". THE NISSAN IS A BETTER TRUCK NOW!! TURBO ADS MORE PARTS, MORE HEAT, AND MORE STRESS! TRUCKS SHOULD BE SIMPLE AND RELIABLE NOT SOFISTICATED AND REFINED.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Thank you for replying. Yes I know Hilux isn't available in your country, also tacoma and frontier are not available in my country. But getting the Hilux is getting the real pick up truck.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed err seeing how midsize prices getting close to full size trucks, then their mpg for both are close as well is pretty much the same and majority of the people are not even using their so called truck for what it is then a grocery getter majority of the time.
@@ruffriding2k2 depends actually it's becoming a buyers market as dealerships have to much over supplies so a lot of those trucks will have discount if you can wheel and deal plus I buy used market and it's sad looking at how the used market the midsize trucks been costing just as much or even more then fullsize. Hopefully some of the dealerships get reversed uno on hard they really deserve it.
I drive a 2023 Tundra SR, in my experience (previously owned a 2019 Tacoma TRD Pro) Toyota's dependability and quality are long gone - From an off road POV The Nissan is more functional with the tow hook locations and proper skid plates, the new Tacoma (at least on the TRD Off Road) they seem to skimp out on armor and poor tow hook location and size. I do not like the interior on the new Tacoma, its not intuitive for the instrumentation and the center console looks cheap IMO, If you're sticking with Toyota, move up to the Tundra, you get a Twin Turbo V6, much more useful interior and better carrying capacity for not too much more (if any at all)
The Nissan also sits so much lower, so it's not ideal for offroading stock for stock with the Tacoma. But I would disagree that Toyota dependability and reliability are gone, far from it.. I have zero need for a fullsize, as there are a lot of others who wouldn't want a full size either, so that's a personal preference! I'll be getting the 4th gen and I'll make tons of content on it and see what it's like!
The engine and Turbo charger will never out last the 6 cylinder frontier engine. I would say that the Toyota will have a 10 to 15 thousand engine replacement in less than 5 years. Turbos do NOT last. Frontier all the way.
You haven’t seen these engine being used before? They have lasted a long time! I’d still pick it over the Nissan, but everyone will enjoy what they want.
I’m a Toyota guy and own a Tundra but if I were in the market for a midsize truck, I’d buy the Frontier. You can by a PRO4-X Frontier right now for a little over $40K. The new Tacoma TRD PRO is $65K. No comparison.
You should’ve gotten more comparable outfitted trucks. When you were talking about the bed on the Nissan, they do come lined with an inverter in three prong plug as well no storage that wasn’t mentioned making the Nissan look inferior in the bed fashion wearing indeed it’s not.
My seller said every model of the frontier is like that the steering wheel is hard for my opignion i have the the pro4x luxe (full equip) est don like how the steeting is hard but with the time its not that bad
I watched a video the guy did 0 to 60 in both. The tacoma was slower 10 seconds compared to 7 seconds on the frontier so you are a little of on that part.
Well they seem to be wrong. Or more bias towards toyota. The pro 4x is a better deal for sure. Just traded my 2017 trd sport for a 2024 nissan pro 4x. Engine is way more powerful and the transmission is so nice. No more searching for gears like it the toyota.
@@woodknack1 I’m sure they have done testing as well, what random video did you watch? Also the Tacoma has much more power, in the hybrid and even more torque for the base, and the new Tacoma doesn’t gear hunt. I regeared my 3rd gen, but the 4ths have been fixed…that’s also a fact.
I dont get each year smaller motor yet they claim more power BS how that Tacoma 2.4 liter gonna stand up to my 4 liter v 6 Tacoma UMMMM Boost is not durableor long lasting Hi Reving 4cly are not the answer, you need Low RPM torque in a Truck
Well the turbo 4 in the tacos ahas more torque then the V6 ever had. Plus you get peak power in the turbo in low RPM under 4k. The V6 you need to hit redline to get the power out of it. So honestly the turbo seems more fun to drive around and has better bottom end power then the V6
Sorry, but truck market is getting ricidulously ugly. Yes, the tacoma has a nicer center console and a sunroof. But it has an iPad for infotaintment, a little turbocharged 4 cil and a composite bed that warps (plastic is not friends with heat and load). The frontier on the other hand is a good product. A hidraulic assisted steering system that gives you so much more feedback, a decent infotainment system that doesn't look like the worst afterthought, a steel made bed (that will vome with a spray on bedliner if you get it as an option), better looking wheels (toyota makes very ugly wheels, only exception being last gen TRD pro wheels), a naturally aspirated v6 engine that has a much better chance of surviving truck life... there is no comparisson to make here... and ai almost forgot to mention the blue stuff in the tacoma. Wtf were designers thinking when they designed that? I will just take the center console out of the tacoma to put it in the frontier and get a frontier (not in the market for a new and stupidly expensive midsize truck, but now I would absolutely never get a newer midsize... everything is getting the vw GTI treatment (4 cil turbo engine) but in a size and weight that will destroy that engine in no time. Sorry, but it looks to me like I'm gonna get a gladiator and turn it into a Hemi gladiator at some point. Or an older colorado and give it a big LS engine to make it happy and eternal. I would even stay with my D21 nissan hardbody, put an LS in there and get some work done in the interior to bring it up to date. It will only be missing the radar and cruise control after installing a nice 2 din screen with car play and android auto, getting a camera for that, installing some reverse sensors
The blue trim accents are options. You can pick different colors depending on what you’d like..I had no issues hauling stuff with my previous two Tacomas and looking forward to getting the 4th gen soon! Buy what you’ll enjoy! I’d much rather have the Tacoma over the frontier all day. Have fun engine swapping, that’s not for everyone.
I may be in the minority, but the looks of the new Tacoma is very juvenile. Especially the interior. It just looks goofy to me. Oh, and why the hell does the exhaust tip hang down a foot from the body??
I bought my first 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro4x all loaded and I love it 😁 the seats are so comfortable and it runs like a real truck
Glad you enjoy it! Both are great options!
Bought the Nissan Frontier Pro-4X, I felt it was just a better truck.
Oh cool. Definitely a nice option. What stood out to you most?
It pisses me off how much Toyota cheaped out on the 4th gen taco. They cut costs right in our face and still raised the price 😑
It is a solid and reliable truck that doesn't have as much as the superfluous technology that will soon break in most new vehicles. I also really like the old school boxy look. I am also glad I didn't turn into a taco fanboy, I would've had to start using the word "bro" and I don't like fruit flavored beer. @@BrosFOURRSpeed
@@meme-bj1pe so is the Tacoma. It doesn’t have much more tech than the Nissan. And it’s also boxy lol
Wouldn’t buying the Nissan make you a fanboy of Nissan?
I’m buying the taco and wouldn’t say that..
@@m.687 where did they cut costs?
I think the Nissan takes this one.
Price, V6, Value, Seats.
Tacoma transmissions and shock towers blowing out already as well. Fanboys are hurting...
I'll take the tacoma all day!
you still haven't been able to provide links on all that,...even one link would be nice to see this information..
@@knightnes Plus real bump stops, solid shock towers, non-breaking transmissions, and made in USA, not Mex, which some people still care about.
A new white Mexican soft Taco pulled up next to me today, and that thing was WEIRD looking, like a cartoonist designed it. WAY too many body lines jammed into one place.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Fanboy-ism is clear here...
I’d say 2024 Nissan since the 2024 Tacoma removed the v6
Have you driven the 4 cylinder?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed no
You should drive one first..@@appleztooranges
4 banger is better then the last gen v6 sorry 😂
@@dannyboy1984 we will see when reliability goes at 100k miles
I’d take the frontier any day. In the long term the v6 is proven reliability and will last longer than even a Toyota turbo four. You can also find it far below sticker at some dealerships. I also prefer the fully physical layout of the frontiers controls while still having a large infotainment screen and the heavier more solid feeling hydraulic steering. Most everything the Frontier is missing in the video vs the tocoma can be optioned
With the DI only on the Nissan you might be surprised in a bad way, i have a 3rd gen taco v6 and i just went out and gave it a hug.
Toyota is number one in reliability for a reason. The 4 cylinder has been proven over several decades, so it's long term great. Personal preference as well, I'll never buy the nissan, tacoma any day for me!
glad you enjoy the tacoma!
Nissan 3.8 will absolutely outlast any turbo four period.
@@markm148 is that true? I’ve seen 4 cylinders last just as long..
I purchased a 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro4X. Great 4X4 Truck Experience! 👍
Glad you like it! Can’t wait for my Tacoma!
New Tacomas are nice but you can get a better deal on the underrated Pro4x that's been out for 2 years now (4 powertrain). I have one and love it!
Just depends on what you want! I’d rather have the Tacoma.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed good luck on 1st year release
@@ruffriding2k2 why? It’s a new body style, but not new mechanics.
Love the Nissan Pro 4X!!
Overall nice truck!
Nissan all day
Why?
Why are you so against Nissan @BrosFOURRSpeed?
@@strangerthingedits2538 What would you prefer? I like what the Tacoma has to offer vs the Nissan..
@@strangerthingedits2538 I’ve seen your other comments on this video and you are a legitimate troll
@@sammyjammy6647 buddy I commented twice and I was being fr
Love my Pro4X
Glad you enjoy it!
My '23 had a spray-in bedliner with all the aux plugs and adjustable tie down rails all from the factory.
Why use a Frontier that's more of a base model than a model more optioned out? For example. Truck beds. The Tacoma has a plastic bed. Yeah, plastic. The Frontier also comes with a spray on bed liner and Nissan's track system, which is excellent. Steering? Nissan stayed with the traditional hydraulic steering, which gives the driver a better, more realistic steering feel between the steering wheel and front wheels. The Tacoma uses electric steering which is very light. The driver doesn't have the same feel between the steering wheel and front wheels as with traditional hydraulic steering. Nothing show stopping for either system.
For me personally, two show stoppers for the Tacoma. 1) the 4-banger on steroids (turbo) and the Tesla like interior with the 'iPad' sticking up out of the dash. No thanks. Nissan's truck is more traditional in many respects and will appeal more to the traditional truck buyer looking in the midsized segment.
This video shows the Pro4X vs TRD Sport. Very comparable trims. The Pro4X is literally the top of the line for the Frontier and very on par in price to the TRD Sport. Also it's hard to be picky with which trucks to use. These were the only ones on the lots. The fact that I even had a chance to film a PRo4X with a new Tacoma is hard to even do. I do prefer the hydraulic steering, but it's just very heavy in slow speeds on the Nissan. Makes it a bit annoying off road. Both have good things to offer and the Nissan is more simple. Tacoma is more modern. So both will appeal to different buyers.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedI guess you can't be picky. Have to use what's available I guess. Your Pro 4X was not the fully optioned out model. The bed I mentioned and yours did not have the premium Fender audio system. Another thing missing on the new Tacoma is under the hood insulation. Cheap! That's not good for noise insulation or the hood paint. How long will the paint last taking all that heat?
Yep, agreed. Bad comparison. Maybe the top of line trim but didn’t have the top packages😅😅
@@nvpoolshooter my 3rd gen Tacoma didn’t have insulation under the hood, made zero difference. Hood was perfect after 6 years sitting outside.. why do you think insulation under the hood would protect the exterior paint? That’s not true..
@@Ksass23 well like I’ve already said, these trucks were the same price, so if you are cross shopping and looking to spend this money, here’s your options…
Nice video. Two weeks ago I test drove both of these vehicles and ended up buying the Pro 4X after the drives. Totally loaded with features and drives great. Comfortable and easy to enter and exit and sit as a person over 6' tall. Pro 4X was a better value and I actually had several to choose from on the lot at a good price. If you're on the fence, just test drive them both and see what you think (if you can find a 4th gen Tacoma locally).
Thanks for sharing! The Tacomas are starting to get delivered to dealers! Nissan's aren't new, so that's why they are more readily available!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed And they're not moving. Sales are down.
@@shanekunde7302 Well see. Definitely pricey. But our dealer is selling every one they get within a week
@@shanekunde7302 you have a link to show that? My local dealer can’t keep them on the lot..
I bought a 2024 Pro 4X instead of the Toyota because the 4 cylinder turbo and plastic bed .
Cool. I sold my 3rd gen for a 4th gen Tacoma, can’t wait!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I’m glad you guys are being the guinea pigs for us lol. I want the new 4Runner coming out.
It’ll still be Japan built and hopefully any iforce kinks will be worked out by then.
Toyota has had 4cyl turbos for a while but now they’re doin “truck stuff” so it’ll wear different over time.
@@austinatomTV yeah we’ll see how they handle! Should be a fun truck to have and I hope these new engines are reliable for trucks
Nissan is notorious for having a shitty transmissions.
@@supertrooper5756 Definitely not their trucks. Always extremely reliable traditional automatics.
Nissan because the Frontier is just better, and also because Toyota deserves some boycotting for their absurd pricing.
How’s it better? I’m going Tacoma. Both are good options though.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed better in terms of featuring the tried and true NA V6 vs. the new V4 turbo. But, time will tell. Most importantly it's the pricing though. Toyota has become overly greedy.
@@stinct1776 it’s not new, new for the Tacoma though. You get way more option with the Tacoma vs the frontier, so just depends on what the buyer wants.
That's on top of saving MORE via "hecho en Mexico," and eliminating bump stops so shock towers blow out, and both manual and automatic transmission early failures, and the TFL blown diff...all this for one high price, that fanboys will STILL pay ro get their brand identity fix, and the PERCEIVED Toyota "reliability. "
Is the 4 cylinder tested and reliable? If not I’ll go with the Nissan. Should have kept a v6 option in my opinion like the wrangler.
The 4 cylinder has been around for decades, so it has been!
I agree, a V6 option would have been nice!
the 4cylinder is in the highlander and some lexus vehicles for the last couple of years. it’s been reliable so far. toyotas are usually reliable although they have had some growing pains with some engines(oil burning rav4’s in the mid 2000’s and grenading early 3.5 v6’s). if you haven’t driven one you really should. the engine and 8 speed blow the v6 and 6 speed out of the water. they are just severely overpriced right now.
no thanks to the Direct injection v6 on the Frontier
@bwhit707 Never been any DI issues with Nissan DI engines. The previous generation Frontiers 4.0 265hp engine used for 15 years was DI. No problems. My 2012 had 160K trouble free miles before I traded it in on a 2024 Frontier.
Thats great to hear; I only made the comment based on generalized reporting of carbon buildup issues in DI only engines. I like the new gen Frontier , I wish it had a telescoping steering column. That might not be an issue for most, but im 6'1 and spouse is 5ft. If the 24 Toyota doesn't pan out I might re focus on a Frontier then. I need the 6ft bed.
Frontier best
Tacoma best! :)
Bet you the Tacoma is $5k more than the Pro4x
lol, yeah it is, I'd still rather have the Tacoma!
Actually more$ if you get a great discount on the Pro4x
@@BrosFOURRSpeed You obviously don't tow much and that can weigh heavily on choice. Did you cover payload?
To get the comparable features try 15,000 more. You'd have to get the TRD Pro to get a locking differential that they Pro4x has😊
@@ruffriding2k2 I was just shopping between these two and could get the Pro4X (as of two weeks ago) with their current discounts for a full $9200 less than the TRD. Maybe a full $10K with some wheeling and dealing. Not a fan of turbo 4cyl engines long term. They tend to lose performance over time in my past experiences with them
Love my Nissan pro X 4 2023
Oh nice!
V6 is simpler and more tested. Jury is still out on the turbo 4.
Yeah we'll have to see how well this new 4cyl can last and handle! Toyota has lots of experience with turbos in other markets. So hopefully this engine is rock solid
I have the last generation of the Nissan Nismo. Driving the 2024 PROEX4 feels just like my Nismo, like it hasn't changed much from the previous model. I like the simplicity of the newer features that aren't overdone. I just hope the milage is better on the new one.
what milage? MPG?
Nissan beat out the new taco in the TFL drag so numbers on paper aren’t all that great for comparison sake.
Well it’s not exactly meant for drag racing lol most truck owners wouldn’t care about 0-60.
Take RUclipsr comments with a grain of salt. He misrepresented the TFL video. The taco beat the Nissan, but the overall winner was the ford ranger in drag race
So dumb. The frontier was the second to last in the drag race 😂
@beexiong2995 yes because of 5k feet of elevation
@@ruffriding2k2 so you acknowledge then that theres a disadvantage for NA motors. Cause when you're towing or hauling elevation doesn't care for excuses
Bought my Nissan Frontier brand new in 2023 and have had 0 issues and it’s my daily driver. 12k miles already and I have no regrets. It’s the better truck and the engine is so smooth and powerful for a NA midsize truck.
Better would be subjective. Glad you enjoy it though. Bought my 2017 Tacoma brand new and it had zero issues as well.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed “It’s just my opinion”. I know that my Frontier is a better truck than the older Tacoma’s because I drove both before I made a decision and don’t regret it either. The newer Tacoma’s haven’t been proven yet for reliability but I will give them the upper hand on the interior vs the Frontier but personally I like the simplicity of the Frontier over the Tacoma because I’m not a big fan of the iPad screen. Just my thoughts since I have been in both trucks. Either way it’s better than the American trucks and you can’t go wrong with either one.
@@TRDRyan That screen is an option, you can get a smaller one. But either are great for what works best for the buyer! This engine isn’t new though, it’s been around a while. Just new for the Tacoma.
I bought the frontier in 2022 I retired my 08 frontier all my boxes and rack fit perfectly on my 2022 king cab
cool
2023-24 Frontier climbing up on the reliability list because Tacoma turbo engines got issues. I'd definitely stick with the naturally aspirated V6 engines for longevity.
I haven't seen anything bad on the Tacoma engine yet. We'll have to see as time goes own with what these trucks can do. Frontier is definitely a solid choice. But other than the old school bulletproof engine, the Tacoma is a better truck in every way. Costs a lot more tho. So we'll see
The sport always looked the best just wish it came with some of the off-road features such as the locking diff.
That might be an option but I’d have to double check!
get the TRD Pro then
I’ll just keep my 2018 Tacoma instead of worrying about which one was better
There’s no need to worry lol, I sold my 3rd gen for a 4th, can’t wait!
I’m a Toyota lover for life but I’d say this time around the Nissan will take the W on this one.
Why? I’m going Tacoma again!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Bruh because we don't have RUclips money to spend $55k+ on a baseline truck. But even if you're not making that much it is absolutely not worth the price for what you get. Plus all the reports of the recent transmission failures and break downs. Also new Taco's look way too "Futuristic" which is not what most buyers want -- which is simplicity that the Frontier has. Plus imo new Tacos do not look good at all they look like Tonka Truck toys.
@@Ryan152103 you think I’m a millionaire? I’m not even close..people are buying $80K full size trucks all day, doesn’t make them a millionaire either..
But just depends on what you want to buy. I’ll never buy the frontier, not what I think is worth the money, so just buy what you’ll enjoy, I can’t wait for the Tacoma!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Why? Gambler? Like the idea of dead transmissions, diffs, busted shock towers, all for more money? Gotta be some fanboy bias here.
@@Ryan152103ALL very valid soft Taco complaints.
Nissan all the way to the top
I’d go Toyota all day!
@BrosFOURRSpeed yes, we can tell. That's why your "unbiased" review sucked.
@@orionorama can you be specific? Thanks for the kind words..
It’s been so good being in this new 2022 frontier
Glad you enjoy it
I think Nissans weak link will be that 9 speed. They sound great and all but as a former titan owner replacement parts up to 2023 were still extremely hard to get for Nissan. OE parts that is. The last gen tacoma was the most sold midsize. absolutely no shortage of parts.
Interesting to hear! Toyota is much more reliable!
Tacoma , all day , every day ! High quality , stellar reliability , styling , and value !
REALLY?? Not so much any more. Go watch TFLoffRoad wher their 2024 Tacoma TRD BROKE trying to go over the same rock that a CHEVY had just gone over! Toyota is trash.
Oh yeah!
So one vehicle, in an offroad situation means all of them are bad? Not true at all. I agree, it should not have had an issue, but that does come with taking it off the pavement.
Newly redesigned vehicles are risky..look at the new Tundras complaints..experts don't recommend to buy first years
@@ruffriding2k2 tundra had very minor issues that were easily fixed. The new model theory of not buying was years past. Most newer vehicles are pretty for first years.
I considered both and ended up buying the 2024 Frontier. The major issue was the motor as I want it to tow a small travel trailer from time to time and I wanted adequate power without a turbo. The V6 with 9 speed tranny is very smooth and delivers good power and I won't have to worry about potential turbo maintenance issue during the life of the vehicle. This was a tough choice, though, because I really wanted the Toyota. I tried every way possible to make it my choice but just couldn't get over the 4 cylinder turbo engine with a towing requirement. I suppose if I were just looking for a car with a bed, I would be driving the Tacoma but it wouldn't be because it was a better truck, it would be because I wanted a Toyota.
Glad you enjoy it. I’m going Tacoma, towing is the same and it’ll handle it just fine. I have trailers and potentially a boat to tow it with and I’m not worried about that at all. But just depends on what the buyer wants.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I think the Tacoma "can" tow almost as much, but it is over the long term that worried me. If you only tow once in a while and light enough to not stress the 4 cylinder you'll be fine.
@@benjoseph260 the 4 cylinder isn’t new from Toyota, it’s been around a long time and people used it to tow.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Sure, it can tow, but I won't pick a 4 cylinder to tow anything substantial. Some very light hauling, perhaps, but if that is a "must-have" for a vehicle, a 4 cylinder isn't what you're going to choose. Sure, it works in a pinch, but if you have the option to buy at least a 6 cylinder that is the best way to go. The problem with Toyota is that there isn't that option anymore in the Tacoma.
@@benjoseph260 I’d tow a 4500 pound boat with it and it would do fine. If you are towing heavy equipment or something, a full size or diesel is better, but it can still tow and be fine for what any midsize would do.
I drove the Frontier, Tacoma, and Ranger yesterday. The Frontier drove the best of all three. Tacoma was second and the Ranger last as it was constantly searching for gears and often was delayed due to the shifts. I drove the 2.3L and 2.7L Ranger with the same issues. The Frontier was my least favorite interior but best overall truck in my opinion. Frontier was the cheapest and best truck for me.
Glad that’s what you enjoy.
Ya I really liked the power on the Toyota though. Even though it’s a 4 cylinder it felt fast. If it was a bit more smooth I would have been sold on it.
@@CFitzPlay I can’t wait for mine! I think it’s smooth and comfortable!
I like clean simple and not flashy.
And which one is that?
I will always take a V6 to a turbo four banger.
Yeah there is a lot of good from the V6. But the turbo is more fun to drive
"If you want that V6 sound..."
I don't GAF about the "sound". I want the V6 ENGINE.
How ridiculous to imply that the sound is the main reason to go with the V6.
Well from the comments we get. Lots of people comment on how they hat eat sound of a 4 cyl. So just pointing out what buyers seem to say as one other reason they like the V6
@@BrosFOURRSpeed It seems as if "sound of engine" is being used as an analogue to "qualities of engine".
"I like the sound of that V6, almost certainly refers to the explicit notion of sound, but I think it is also referring to the implicit notion of "qualities of the engine" and everything that comes with it.
Such as "I love the sound of the rescue chopper", means "I love the fact that the rescue chopper has arrived" more than it means they love the literal "sound".
It should be assumed that those who "love the sound" of the V6 would also catagorize themselves as those who love the operative qualities of the V6.
It would be totally assinine to "love the sound" of the V6, while hating the qualities of it's engineering and performance.
Therefore, it is clearly an analogous term, and should not be taken literally.
Love the Tacoma but with the ridiculous pricing I’m going to look at the frontier a second time.
Yeah it's not a bad way to go. About $45k you can get a loaded Pro4X
A good comparison would be the new Colorado ZR2 and the Frontier Pro4X
I don’t always have access to different models at the same time, so possibly if that ever happens! But the ZR2 costs a lot more, so I was comparing similar priced trim levels.
I just bought a Pro4X over the new Tacoma, that 4cyl turbo is not very good. Turbo lag and not any better fuel economy. The Pro4X has everything you want and need in a midsize truck.
I didnt experience turbo lag at all. Much more powerful than the v6 and got right up to speed. Glad you enjoy that. I can’t wait for my 4th gen Tacoma.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I'll preface my comment with the Tacoma isn't bad, its just not worth at all close to what they're asking for them. Toyota has lost touch with its customer base. And I've been a Toyota Fanboy for the last 15 years.
@jaronritchie2372 completely agree with you.
The Bottom Line is which one is more durable and reliable?
Well Toyota is number one in reliability, Nissan isn't in the top 5..
@@BrosFOURRSpeedthe Frontier and Tacoma have been virtually tied in reliability over the last decade. It seems like you're generalizing Nissan vs Toyota. We all know the CVT trans issues have knocked Nissan down overall, but the Frontier doesn't use a CVT so it has had excellent reliability stats.
@@theRooster722 it may be.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedwe are talking trucks buddy not in the same conversation when it comes to overall vehicle manufacturing Nissan trucks are pretty high up there
@@peppitachips1764 ok..
Test drove the Pro-4X. Didn’t care for the extremely heavy steering, the small digital screen in the instrument cluster was very dim also and hard to see in direct sunlight even with brightness turned all the way up. The technology also seems very old and outdated. The only pro in my personal opinion is the naturally aspirated v6. I have a 24 TRD OR on order. Toyota looks way more updated, i’ve owned the corolla in the past and the Toyota just looks way better. Will have higher resale value and the standard Toyota sense 3.0 is way more advanced than the Nissan in my opinion. Good review. Go Tacoma 🙌🏽
Yeah the Tacoma has a lot going for it. Drives great! You'll enjoy it!
Love my 2024 Tacoma!
It's a sweet truck! Can't wait for mine!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed You won't regret it!
I bought the 23 Nissan Pro4x
Cool, glad you enjoy it.
Wait till the future Nissan Frontier 3.8 turbo option comes out. It’s coming!!
Would be cool to see!
Should have got a black frontier. The color doesn't show the body lines as well like the tacoma
I don’t own it..
@@BrosFOURRSpeedmeant to say get a black one from dealership for comparison.
@@trixsevenoneroyalbluez1257 That’s dependent on the dealer inventory. That wasn’t an option at the time.
Me and my dad have test driven that Tacoma and it broke down with the sales person in there with us he had no idea what to do
What exactly happened? Can you be specific?
Yes, we’d like to call the dealership and verify your story
@@BrosFOURRSpeed something with the driveshaft it popped
@@strangerthingedits2538 interesting..
something with the booty; it popped @@strangerthingedits2538
Nissan all day. Turbos are just another expense I don't need.
We'll see how tough the turbo engine can be
I think if you’re a pickup truck guy, you gotta go Tacoma. If You’re just a guy who wants to drive a pickup truck, you go Frontier.
Looked for weeks for a good used Tacoma when I found my '22 Pro-4X for 10k less.
Oh wow! Not a bad way to go!
Tacoma all day . Toyota for life . All you people saying your going with Nissan . You’ll be back 😂
Tacoma is a great option!
You wanna bet?
@@mikeely-ly2kb can’t wait for my Tacoma! Nothing in it is new from Toyota, been around for awhile.
Everything about the Frontier looks better than the Tacoma with the one exception that Tacomas have more color options. I say this as a 2013 Tacoma owner. I know I'll be going for a Frontier if I decide to upgrade.
I sold my 2017 tacoma for the new one! I think it looks way nicer than the frontier!
Im a die hard Toyota since the 70's and happen to own a 2022 Taco SR5 2WD.
I'm about to purchase a 4WD midsize truck, and it will be a NISSAN Pro 4X
Oh wow! Is the V6 the reason?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed it’s because it’s natural aspirated V6 just like my 2022 2WD Taco.
When I purchased the Taco in 2022 the dealer lot ran out of 4WD and it was during the middle of the supply chain, at the same time I had just sold my 2003 4Runner and needed a vehicle.
The dealership back then told me that the wait time was between 2 to 5 month for a 4WD. Catch 22 kind a situation.
Gotcha. Hope you like the new Frontier! We'll see how the new Tacomas stand up with the 4cyl
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yes will just have to see. Turbo is not exactly my forte, as for NA V6 has proven itself to be very reliable with just basic maintenance at proper intervals.
@@rockkstah2550 Yeah can’t go wrong. We’ll have a new Tacoma on the channel. So we’ll see how strong it ends up being
I can deal with the 4 cylinder turbo, but that plastic bedliner is a no-go.
The Tacoma has a composite bed. It's actually very strong and durable. I don't think anyone has ever had issues with it cracking. Metal beds dent and get beat up. Tacoma beds seem to handle a lot! Plus you can even do a spray in bed liner on them too
Bought my 2024 frontier a month ago. Love it. I stepped inside the new taco but the interior was a turn off with the big taco stamp in the dash, the 4cyl turbo was a huge question mark and just overall fair(ish) price.
The Tacoma stamp isn’t much different than the third gen, but glad that’s what you’ll enjoy.
The Nissan for 2024 will be more reliable and the engine will last longer with no major problems. You can't beat naturally aspirated engines for longevity and reliability.
Well when Toyota has had the 4 cylinder for decades and no problems, hard to argue that..
Tacoma all the way for me.
Great trucks!
The Frontier doesn't have a telescoping steering wheel?
It does, I never said it didn’t.
I was a question; they only say it tilts not telescopes?
@@bwhit707 It does not have.
@@wunique1376 Thanks.
Frontier Pro 4x for me
Why?
Nissan needs to bring back the xterra. Good ol reliable 4runner is going away too.
Why’s it going away? What experience do you have with the new 4Runner?
The only reason why i got the frontier over the tacoma is because it has more power and speed transmission so in a race itll win
you can buy the hybrid tacoma that has way more power! no one is buying these trucks to drag race lol.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed jk I got a 24 Tacoma. Gg
Both are so nice 👍
Yes they are!
Nissian looks way cool and simple, Toyota seems like it wants to catch up on looks and engine, guess each there own.Imagine slight lift, and turbo😮😮
Tacoma looks way cooler.
Lots of power v6 my old truck was 4 cylinder stick shift night and day
Probably a non turbo 4 cylinder. The Turbo hybrid in the tacoma packs a punch!
The Nissan drivers in the comments are trying too hard man... reliability it's the Tacoma and it's not even close... Resale is not even in the same universe. The only place the Nissan wins is price and that's because they lose all value once rolled off the lot. I'm taking a Colorado and maybe even a Ranger over the Nissan. I guess congratulations even being compared to a Tacoma but the Tacoma will always be king of the midsize unless Toyota decides to ruin their brand and stop making reliable vehicles for some odd reason. They won't.
Both are great options! But yeah, I can't wait for my tacoma!
I bought the Nissan Pro4X after trying the new Tacoma, I definitely found it more comfortable and better value.
Glad you enjoy that.
Turbos are a hard pass. I just bought the NA V6 Frontier.
Glad that works for you.
The nissan is still riding the same platform from 2006
Yeah it needs an upgrade!
@@BrosFOURRSpeedNo, it doesn't. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN ok.
It’s been modified plus it’s tried and true. 🏆
The Frontier will win even more if they added for 2025:
Telescoping steering wheel
Fully digital cluster
Larger updated screen.
Better updated cameras
Auto up/down on all windows.
Rear vents
Lighter steering
Memory seats
Pro Pilot 2.0
More comfortable rear seats (not sure how they would do that)
Sure anything could win with big improvements lol, we’ll have to see, Nissan is way behind on a lot in the last several years, might take them awhile to even catch up.
Taco 6 speed manual all day!!
Pretty cool they still offer that!
Except you can't get 1 in the pro or trailhunter, the 2 most desired models.
I uabe 2024 pro 4x nissan, i love the outside design better than the taco but the taco interior design is just bomb, 44k for nissan n taco full loaded its juat crazy 😂
Yeah both have some good options!
The steering is heavier on the Nissan due to being hydraulic steering. The Toyota is drive by wire.
It's not something that's great. Really hurts the turning radius for the nissan.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedjust figured a reviewer would know this
I do, I've talked about this in previous videos before..@@Mrlocdown238
Gotcha .
Its not "steer" by wire lol. It is electronic power steering. Steer by wire is tesla and even in infinit/nissan products like the q60
Trade my 2019 SR5 V6 Calvary Blue 60k miles for the Nissan Pro X 2024 Boulder Gray
dang, I personally can't go with the Nissan...what made you switch?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed new Tacoma no longer has v6
@@josephmorales9625 Did you drive one? I like it much better than the V6 in my 3rd gen. I'll be using mine to tow 6k pounds as well. I don't see any problems with it
@BrosFOURRSpeed i did test drive before buying . In the end, the deal Nissan offered was good they gave me 26k for my 2019 Tacoma and the Pro X was 39k
@@josephmorales9625 cool, glad you enjoy it.
I HAVE BEEN A TOYOTA TACOMA GUY FOR LONG TIME! TOYOTA SCREWED UP BY NOT TALKING TO CUSTOMERS AND ASKING THEM "WHAT DO YOU WANT". THE NISSAN IS A BETTER TRUCK NOW!! TURBO ADS MORE PARTS, MORE HEAT, AND MORE STRESS! TRUCKS SHOULD BE SIMPLE AND RELIABLE NOT SOFISTICATED AND REFINED.
I’m still team Toyota! Can’t wait to get the 4th gen!
If you want a truck to go 300k miles the new 9speed auto Pro4X is it.
@@kao9379 Toyotas are known for going well past that. Nissan doesn’t quite have the same reputation.
Good review, but thanks we have better vehicle and ill chose GR Hilux with 4.0 NA V6
Hilux isn’t a USA vehicle, so we don’t have that..
@@BrosFOURRSpeed
Thank you for replying. Yes I know Hilux isn't available in your country, also tacoma and frontier are not available in my country. But getting the Hilux is getting the real pick up truck.
I'll take take the Nissan but I'm trying to get away from the midsize it's over blown market. Fullsize making more sense now.
I wouldn’t agree with that. Depends on what the buyer wants. I’d never buy a full size, not something I need.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed err seeing how midsize prices getting close to full size trucks, then their mpg for both are close as well is pretty much the same and majority of the people are not even using their so called truck for what it is then a grocery getter majority of the time.
@@crisikingful again, depends on what the buyer wants. Ever with that, I’d buy a midsize. I have zero desire for a full size truck.
Everything is expensive nowadays..a nice full size would easily cost 70k
@@ruffriding2k2 depends actually it's becoming a buyers market as dealerships have to much over supplies so a lot of those trucks will have discount if you can wheel and deal plus I buy used market and it's sad looking at how the used market the midsize trucks been costing just as much or even more then fullsize. Hopefully some of the dealerships get reversed uno on hard they really deserve it.
I drive a 2023 Tundra SR, in my experience (previously owned a 2019 Tacoma TRD Pro) Toyota's dependability and quality are long gone - From an off road POV The Nissan is more functional with the tow hook locations and proper skid plates, the new Tacoma (at least on the TRD Off Road) they seem to skimp out on armor and poor tow hook location and size. I do not like the interior on the new Tacoma, its not intuitive for the instrumentation and the center console looks cheap IMO, If you're sticking with Toyota, move up to the Tundra, you get a Twin Turbo V6, much more useful interior and better carrying capacity for not too much more (if any at all)
The Nissan also sits so much lower, so it's not ideal for offroading stock for stock with the Tacoma.
But I would disagree that Toyota dependability and reliability are gone, far from it..
I have zero need for a fullsize, as there are a lot of others who wouldn't want a full size either, so that's a personal preference! I'll be getting the 4th gen and I'll make tons of content on it and see what it's like!
The engine and Turbo charger will never out last the 6 cylinder frontier engine. I would say that the Toyota will have a 10 to 15 thousand engine replacement in less than 5 years. Turbos do NOT last. Frontier all the way.
You haven’t seen these engine being used before? They have lasted a long time! I’d still pick it over the Nissan, but everyone will enjoy what they want.
Frontier 😎
Why?
Thank you for this great video and I wanted to know what you think about the Mercedes Benz x truck which is basically a Nissan
We don't have that in the USA. So not sure. Looks cool tho
@@BrosFOURRSpeed do you think that any body has imported one from the different states ?
@@anthonybakednot sure, most imports have to be 25 years or older, don’t know anything about that vehicle.
Taco looks so much better and reliability record kills frontier
Nissan all day, recovering Toyota fanboy here.
Buy what you’ll enjoy, I’ll take the Tacoma..
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thank you for permission boss 👍
@@absolute.freedom I wasn’t but ok..
Toyota blew it with their turbo engine and insane pricing.
We'll see. Definitely a good chunk more expensive than the 3rd gen. But GM trucks cost pretty similar
Tacoma. Next question..
It's a cool truck!
I'd have both
Cool options!
I’m a Toyota guy and own a Tundra but if I were in the market for a midsize truck, I’d buy the Frontier. You can by a PRO4-X Frontier right now for a little over $40K. The new Tacoma TRD PRO is $65K. No comparison.
Yeah the pro is expensive. I’d much rather have the TRD offroad I’ll be buying soon over a frontier.
Hate how the last infotainment sticks out of the dash on the Toyota .
That's an option, so you can get a smaller screen..
You should’ve gotten more comparable outfitted trucks. When you were talking about the bed on the Nissan, they do come lined with an inverter in three prong plug as well no storage that wasn’t mentioned making the Nissan look inferior in the bed fashion wearing indeed it’s not.
These were the only trucks on the lot and I made it work..
I was in the market for this till I found out it’s has a timing belt come on Nissan you couldn’t use a timing chain !!
Tacoma all day lol!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed turbo are nothing but issues Toyota’s down fall
@@rutgershouses what’s your ownership experience been like to say that?
Toyota still has the better transmission.
Taco forever
oh yeah!
My seller said every model of the frontier is like that the steering wheel is hard for my opignion i have the the pro4x luxe (full equip) est don like how the steeting is hard but with the time its not that bad
Its a good mid size truck i dide 11l/100km
It’s definitely much heavier, not a fan of that.
They are good options.
The (outdated)Nissan literally has a lot of the features you highlighted in the Tacoma lol
Yeah it has a lot of good modern features. Still feels a lot older in design and the layout is much more basic like older cars.
Price?….
Depends on how you spec it. But similarly equipped a Pro4X will be about $47k to a Tacoma being $55k
Frontier. I currently own a 23 tacoma offload. Probably trading it for a Frontier. I dont want a turbo 4 in a truck.
Why not? More powerful and can tow more, but if that’s what you’ll enjoy.
23 tacoma has v6
@@antoniocognato5023 I know that, I owned a 3rd gen.
I watched a video the guy did 0 to 60 in both. The tacoma was slower 10 seconds compared to 7 seconds on the frontier so you are a little of on that part.
Just stating what each manufacturer says on their websites…
Well they seem to be wrong. Or more bias towards toyota. The pro 4x is a better deal for sure. Just traded my 2017 trd sport for a 2024 nissan pro 4x. Engine is way more powerful and the transmission is so nice. No more searching for gears like it the toyota.
@@woodknack1 I’m sure they have done testing as well, what random video did you watch?
Also the Tacoma has much more power, in the hybrid and even more torque for the base, and the new Tacoma doesn’t gear hunt.
I regeared my 3rd gen, but the 4ths have been fixed…that’s also a fact.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed maybe torque but not hp.
@@woodknack1 the hybrid does. But buy what you’ll enjoy.
Idk man that taco looks like a spaceship. I’d rather drive the Nissan. Too much going on in that Toyota.
Both certainly have some benefits. Buy what works of you
I dont get each year smaller motor yet they claim more power BS how that Tacoma 2.4 liter gonna stand up to my 4 liter v 6 Tacoma UMMMM Boost is not durableor long lasting Hi Reving 4cly are not the answer, you need Low RPM torque in a Truck
Well the turbo 4 in the tacos ahas more torque then the V6 ever had. Plus you get peak power in the turbo in low RPM under 4k. The V6 you need to hit redline to get the power out of it. So honestly the turbo seems more fun to drive around and has better bottom end power then the V6
Sorry, but truck market is getting ricidulously ugly. Yes, the tacoma has a nicer center console and a sunroof. But it has an iPad for infotaintment, a little turbocharged 4 cil and a composite bed that warps (plastic is not friends with heat and load).
The frontier on the other hand is a good product. A hidraulic assisted steering system that gives you so much more feedback, a decent infotainment system that doesn't look like the worst afterthought, a steel made bed (that will vome with a spray on bedliner if you get it as an option), better looking wheels (toyota makes very ugly wheels, only exception being last gen TRD pro wheels), a naturally aspirated v6 engine that has a much better chance of surviving truck life... there is no comparisson to make here... and ai almost forgot to mention the blue stuff in the tacoma. Wtf were designers thinking when they designed that?
I will just take the center console out of the tacoma to put it in the frontier and get a frontier (not in the market for a new and stupidly expensive midsize truck, but now I would absolutely never get a newer midsize... everything is getting the vw GTI treatment (4 cil turbo engine) but in a size and weight that will destroy that engine in no time.
Sorry, but it looks to me like I'm gonna get a gladiator and turn it into a Hemi gladiator at some point. Or an older colorado and give it a big LS engine to make it happy and eternal. I would even stay with my D21 nissan hardbody, put an LS in there and get some work done in the interior to bring it up to date. It will only be missing the radar and cruise control after installing a nice 2 din screen with car play and android auto, getting a camera for that, installing some reverse sensors
The blue trim accents are options. You can pick different colors depending on what you’d like..I had no issues hauling stuff with my previous two Tacomas and looking forward to getting the 4th gen soon!
Buy what you’ll enjoy! I’d much rather have the Tacoma over the frontier all day.
Have fun engine swapping, that’s not for everyone.
I may be in the minority, but the looks of the new Tacoma is very juvenile. Especially the interior. It just looks goofy to me. Oh, and why the hell does the exhaust tip hang down a foot from the body??
The exhaust tip is like that on almost every truck..but I like, much nicer than my 3rd gen so I can’t wait to take delivery.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed
Everyone has their thing and I'm glad you are exited for your new truck. Enjoy!
I had Tacoma 2020 and now Frontier 2023. Frontier all the way. Tacoma overrated.
Glad you like that. I’ve had two Tacomas and ready for the 4th gen!