@@jimbob1644 This is what happen when you base your faith in those who just tell you, "I've heard that E GW said this, and that...", and do not study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Do you know how the AD system works? There is no year 0 in the AD system. The year immediately preceding 1 AD is 1 BC. This lack of a year 0 can sometimes cause confusion when calculating historical dates. So, in the transition from BC to AD, the year sequence goes directly from 1 BC to 1 AD. To make you understand better: 457, 456, 455.....3, 2, 1 (BC) - (AD) 1, 2, 3, 4........1882, 1883, 1884 = 2300 (457 years from the BC + 1844 years from the AD = 2300, Daniel 8:14 KJV "And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." The Bible is true and the questions is: Are your name going to be retained in the book of life, when your case is going to come up in the judgment?
So that fools like you can disparage her 100 years after her death. Joseph was buried under obelisks too. Please enlighten us on how he will burn in hell.
If you don't want to do a little research yourself, just use an open ai to find answer to your question. Here is your answer: "During the late 19th and early 20th centuries, obelisks were a popular choice for grave markers for various reasons. They were seen as elegant and majestic monuments, often associated with concepts of eternity or commemoration. As a result, obelisks could be found in cemeteries and graveyards across different regions and cultures, regardless of Masonic affiliation. In summary, while Freemasons did utilize obelisks as grave markers, they were not exclusive to Freemasonry. Many people and organizations during the 1900s chose obelisks as monuments for their graves due to their symbolic significance and aesthetic appeal."
@@JamieElison they don't want her to know the truth! Like subtracting 457 from 2300 that created the cult. that Created that ( demonic Jesus they serve!) That does not forgive sins!
The woman has never been an Idol. If Jesus Christ OUR Lord and Savior. Was called all names what about her. It sadens some of us who have been reading her books and enjoying them. How they have built us in our Christianity. I respect your opinion, but as far as I know it is very far from what you think of her. Thank you.
Maybe you should quit reading her books and realize( what created SDA)!! and what she did (. She created it( demonic Jesus) in 1844 is that okay with you!)????
Even Jesus was accused of casting out devil's by the power of Satan. The bible says so. I wonder not when you accuse the servants of God either. If they the Pharasees did it to Jesus Christ then even His Loyal servants will be accused also. You may watch out my friend. Examine the Truth for yourself and be willing to submit to the scriptures. Read the desire of ages and you will see how truly Jesus Christ gave this woman a message for us. May the Spirit of Truth lead you into all Truth.
@@patrickorone1149 it's a plagiarized book ..she didn't write it! She was demonic! she (created a Jesus that does not forgive sins in 1844! )That Jesus is not in the Bible! She was a false prophet! All's you to do is subtract 457 from 2300! That's the first lie!
Why SDA CONTINUE TO PUT THIS WOMAN ON A PEDOSTAL , WHO INSTALL THAT OBALIS ON THE FAMILY TOMB? A LOT OF GOOD HYMNS IN OUR HYMNAL EVEN THOSE PLACED BY THE JESUITS, NO471 GRANT US PEACE: NO 403 LET US BREAK BREAD TOGETHER. AND THE RESPONSES READING IN THE BACK OF THE HYMNAL ,SDA CLAIM THE KJV IS THE PREFERRED VIRGIN OF THE BIBLES, CHECK THIS OUT THERE ARE 33 VERSES FROM THE NKJV, 69 FROM THE NIV, 29 FROM THE RSV, 15 FROM THE TEV, 15FROM THE KJV, 22 FROM THE NEB, 3FROM THE NASB, 38 FROM THE JERUSALEM BIBLE WHICH IS USED ONLY BY ROMAN CATHOLIC.THESE ARE THE RESPONSES READING IN THE BACK OF THE SDA HYMNAL.
I wonder if that Obelisk was added by the occult long after her passing or who did that of if she wanted it. It is a freemason Jesuit Catholic occult object. I read some of her books and i feel she was inspired by the holy spirit but this makes me question her. That's why i almost think it was added to discourage people who she encouraged. It wouldn't surprise me either way the occult is very sneaky.
Was obelisk added because she used masonic words like sun of righteousness or for using masonic signs with her hands while addressing masonic brother in Australia.many questions not one answered by E G White Estate pls remove that obelisk we don't decorate graves it is an biblical
@@oellyomondi sun of righteousness was taken from the bible in the last chapter of Malachi. It says the sun of righteousness will arise with heali in it's wings. And ye shall grow up as calves to the stall and ye shall tread down the wicked as they shall be ashes under the souls of your feet saith the lord
Some of her books may have the inspiration of the Holy Spirit because she frequently plagiarized Christian authors and claimed they were her own words given by special revelation. Her own unique beliefs and interpretations of the Bible are usually non-Christian and often contradictory. Just like this obelisk which would seem to contradict her other public teachings. I don't think it was added by "sneaky people", but it is a warning to all in plain sight that the foundations and founders of this church were not faithful to the Spirit of God.
This woman is an Idol and i just wonder what communion does the temple of baal has with the temple of God what is the obelisk doing on the grave of a believer if I may ask??
@@marthiepeden5551 Nope that is not true that obelisk is on their gravesite and was put there after the death of James White. The assumption is that it was erected in 1882 under the guidance of Ellen White.
It's a good thing that you understand what the obelisk is all about but you should all understand that Ellen was not the one who put that obelisk there
This Lady is inside this grave.Another man WEN baptized heaven opened and a voice descended from heaven and said this is my son.This same person grave is empty and resides at the right hand side of Almighty God this two persons each one established religion one is Christian religion one SDA which of these two u must listen nobody hv to tell u.Under Christian dispensation no revelation permitted Luke 16:16 and Heb 1:1ff.
@@johnsavel5995 what preacher would tell the truth about SDA. I’ve bought no leads than seven books by former SDAs and read the the heretical teaching of the investigative judgement , and know how much she plagiarized from others. She didn’t even try to hide that. I pray for you all. I’m trying to save my son from the grasp her SDA gf has over him. And she can’t even know she’s saved. Neither can you. Despaired the biblical truth Jesus died, and resurrected himself and sits as High Priest declaring anyone who follows Him and obeys His commands know they’re saved and won’t be “called up” in any given moment and be judged then and there and find out that way they have eternal life. I likely know more than you do about your own colored history or rewrite after rewrite of the church manual, and ALL the time Ellen changed her own mind and updated her own writings because when you lie you have to keep going back over and over and re explaining the confusing apostate doctrines. I pity you. You’re probably just paid shells trying to counter the vast numbers of SDAs leaving the church and coming to the light as found in Former Adventist Fellowship conferences where people cry giving their testimonies after learning g the true Biblical truth of salvation that’s been withheld from them their whole protected SDA “bubble” lives.
This was proven by theologian Dr Walter Rae but was opposed by Dr ford plagiarism was found in Many of her books Dr Rae wrote the WHITE LIE about E white.
So ironic that her last writing were for the youths....Look at the way the youths of today are behaving, they have become lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God. Who is to blame? Hmmmm
You got to remember most of what she wrote r was plagiarized... written by somebody else. She did that to cover up for the 1844 demonic Jesus.( That she created). Which is what created the cult. Of SDA as it is! That 1844 Jesus is the devil himself!
According to testimony of brethren Aston Mbaya and Moses Lushiku who are alive,the way they are receiving messages from God is the same way EG White was receiving her messages both do not breathe when in trance.the plagiarism people accuse her of are actually messages given to her and the writers tasked of writting are the ones adding these
@@oellyomondi yeah, that may be true.. but it's not coming from God!... At least on Ellen White...(. God would have never created in 1844 Jesus). That does not forgive sin.
How could she know about the obelisk on her grave? She spent much effort exposing Freemasonry and the occult. Have you read her books? Are you familiar with how the Lord established her as His last day messenger?
@@maggiemae7539 -- I think that she is not the one who requested an obelisk to be at her grave site. Those who took care of the burial details after she died decided, for whatever reason, to put it there. It doesn't detract from all the good she did. Have you read her books? Her writings are God's voice to me.
Romans 3 : 10 "There is none righteous, no not one" Romans 3: 23 "All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God." When Adam and Eve sinned before God, their spirits died to God. All human beings born after Adam and Eve are born with a sin nature - they are born with spirits dead to God and need to be born again as written in John 3 : 5 for them to receive the righteousness of God which comes from Jesus when a sinner prays the prayer ofrepentance and comfesses the Lordship of Jesus Christ as written in Romans 10 9 -13. A human being is not a sinner by committing sins. He or she is a sinner by being born with a spirit that is dead to God. He or she commits sibs by being born a sinner. Man is a born sinner and cannot make him or herself righteous and holy by observing the 10 commandments. In fact the 10 commandments are not enough. He or she needs to fully obey the 10 commandments plus the 603 ceremonial laws (the whole law - that is all the laws contained in the Book of the law = 613) to obtain the righteousness which is from the law.. Romans 3 : 21 - 23 tells us about the righteousness of God apart from the righteousness which is from the law which has been revealed to us through Jesus Christ. Only Jesus Christ walked on rhis earth without sinning and therefore fulfilled the demands of the law of Moses for righteousness whilst in a body like we sinners have on our behalf. There is nothing that we an do on our on power to earn righteousness but to believe in Jesus Christ. That is why in John 3 : 16 it is written: FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE." Man is saved only by believing in Jesus Christ and committing their lives to him. Not by obeying any laws or commandments. Yes he or she has to live a righteous and holy life by being baptized with the Holy Spirit and being led by Him.
You are joking right? Only Jesus had no sin. That's why He became the perfect sacrificial Lamb for the sin of mankind. Jesus came to this world to die and atone for our sins precisely because we were incapable of keeping rhe law and fulfill the righteous demands of the law of Moses. He did that by living a sinless life thus fulfilling the demands of the law of Moses for righteousness on our behalf. When a person prays a sinner's prayer in accordance with Romans 10 : 9 - 13 and becomes born again in his or her spirit his or her sins are completely forgiven. The sin nature is removed and that person receivies the righteousness of God which comes from Jesus and is reconciled back to God. Ellen G White was born a sinner just like everybody else. She misled and her heretical writings and prophecies continue to mislead millions of people worlwide. Such people believing her false doctrine die unsaved and become candidates of hell. She is the worst of the sinners.
Is the Obelisk part of EGW armour? Why didnt someone remove it, if she is not a freemason?
Ellen White was not a free mason!
Obviously she was not a Freemason. If you read any of her writings you would know that.
Amen. Once we put that armor on we are never supposed to take it off.
Total surrender and total obedience. All to Jesus I surrender !!!
Just subtract 457 from 2300, and see how truthful she was!
@@jimbob1644 This is what happen when you base your faith in those who just tell you, "I've heard that E GW said this, and that...", and do not study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Do you know how the AD system works? There is no year 0 in the AD system. The year immediately preceding 1 AD is 1 BC. This lack of a year 0 can sometimes cause confusion when calculating historical dates. So, in the transition from BC to AD, the year sequence goes directly from 1 BC to 1 AD.
To make you understand better: 457, 456, 455.....3, 2, 1 (BC) - (AD) 1, 2, 3, 4........1882, 1883, 1884 = 2300 (457 years from the BC + 1844 years from the AD = 2300, Daniel 8:14 KJV "And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."
The Bible is true and the questions is: Are your name going to be retained in the book of life, when your case is going to come up in the judgment?
Once a cult buys in on the lie than you have to support the lie!
Amazing ..thank you for this ❤
Why are you thanking the the devil?
Thank God for EGW
Why is her grave marker an obelisk??
Because she was sent by the Devil himself
So that fools like you can disparage her 100 years after her death. Joseph was buried under obelisks too. Please enlighten us on how he will burn in hell.
Just subtract 457 from 2300 created SDA. in the first place. And created a demonic Jesus! There's your answer!
Because she was sent by the devil in the first place.
If you don't want to do a little research yourself, just use an open ai to find answer to your question. Here is your answer:
"During the late 19th and early 20th centuries, obelisks were a popular choice for grave markers for various reasons. They were seen as elegant and majestic monuments, often associated with concepts of eternity or commemoration. As a result, obelisks could be found in cemeteries and graveyards across different regions and cultures, regardless of Masonic affiliation.
In summary, while Freemasons did utilize obelisks as grave markers, they were not exclusive to Freemasonry. Many people and organizations during the 1900s chose obelisks as monuments for their graves due to their symbolic significance and aesthetic appeal."
They Questioned of Jesus being the son of God, and of who's power He cast out demons,so questioning a bout Ellen White is no hig deal.
Beautiful woman who never removed the armor of God. ❤
She was the devil herself. She never knew Jesus Christ.( That 1844 Jesus that she created was the devil!)
She never had it to begin with. !!!She created the 1844 Jesus! ( that does not forgive sins the Devil himself!)
You mean the one that created the demonic Jesus in 1844!
They're blocking the visible comments to you!
@@JamieElison they don't want her to know the truth! Like subtracting 457 from 2300 that created the cult. that Created that ( demonic Jesus they serve!) That does not forgive sins!
האובליסק על הקבר מראה שהם היו גם בונים חופשיים בכירים...💪💪
They don't leave anybody leave comments to you. they don't want anybody to see the truth!
The woman has never been an Idol. If Jesus Christ OUR Lord and Savior. Was called all names what about her. It sadens some of us who have been reading her books and enjoying them. How they have built us in our Christianity. I respect your opinion, but as far as I know it is very far from what you think of her. Thank you.
Maybe you should quit reading her books and realize( what created SDA)!! and what she did (. She created it( demonic Jesus) in 1844 is that okay with you!)????
The woman was never a Christian in the first place!
Even Jesus was accused of casting out devil's by the power of Satan. The bible says so. I wonder not when you accuse the servants of God either. If they the Pharasees did it to Jesus Christ then even His Loyal servants will be accused also. You may watch out my friend. Examine the Truth for yourself and be willing to submit to the scriptures. Read the desire of ages and you will see how truly Jesus Christ gave this woman a message for us. May the Spirit of Truth lead you into all Truth.
@@patrickorone1149 it's a plagiarized book ..she didn't write it! She was demonic! she (created a Jesus that does not forgive sins in 1844! )That Jesus is not in the Bible! She was a false prophet! All's you to do is subtract 457 from 2300! That's the first lie!
Why SDA CONTINUE TO PUT THIS WOMAN ON A PEDOSTAL , WHO INSTALL THAT OBALIS ON THE FAMILY TOMB?
A LOT OF GOOD HYMNS IN OUR HYMNAL EVEN THOSE PLACED BY THE JESUITS, NO471 GRANT US PEACE: NO 403 LET US BREAK BREAD TOGETHER.
AND THE RESPONSES READING IN THE BACK OF THE HYMNAL ,SDA CLAIM THE KJV IS THE PREFERRED VIRGIN OF THE BIBLES, CHECK THIS OUT THERE ARE 33 VERSES FROM THE NKJV, 69 FROM THE NIV, 29 FROM THE RSV, 15 FROM THE TEV, 15FROM THE KJV, 22 FROM THE NEB, 3FROM THE NASB, 38 FROM THE JERUSALEM BIBLE WHICH IS USED ONLY BY ROMAN CATHOLIC.THESE ARE THE RESPONSES READING IN THE BACK OF THE SDA HYMNAL.
Demons commenting!!
I wonder if that Obelisk was added by the occult long after her passing or who did that of if she wanted it. It is a freemason Jesuit Catholic occult object. I read some of her books and i feel she was inspired by the holy spirit but this makes me question her. That's why i almost think it was added to discourage people who she encouraged. It wouldn't surprise me either way the occult is very sneaky.
Exactly
Was obelisk added because she used masonic words like sun of righteousness or for using masonic signs with her hands while addressing masonic brother in Australia.many questions not one answered by E G White Estate pls remove that obelisk we don't decorate graves it is an biblical
@@oellyomondi sun of righteousness was taken from the bible in the last chapter of Malachi. It says the sun of righteousness will arise with heali in it's wings. And ye shall grow up as calves to the stall and ye shall tread down the wicked as they shall be ashes under the souls of your feet saith the lord
Will if you look at the (1844 Jesus) that she (created) its the the ( devil ) how could it be inspired by the word of God? it can't!
Some of her books may have the inspiration of the Holy Spirit because she frequently plagiarized Christian authors and claimed they were her own words given by special revelation. Her own unique beliefs and interpretations of the Bible are usually non-Christian and often contradictory. Just like this obelisk which would seem to contradict her other public teachings. I don't think it was added by "sneaky people", but it is a warning to all in plain sight that the foundations and founders of this church were not faithful to the Spirit of God.
This woman is an Idol and i just wonder what communion does the temple of baal has with the temple of God what is the obelisk doing on the grave of a believer if I may ask??
The obelisk is not her grave. Theirs are the two small ones to the man’s right
@@marthiepeden5551 Nope that is not true that obelisk is on their gravesite and was put there after the death of James White. The assumption is that it was erected in 1882 under the guidance of Ellen White.
It's a good thing that you understand what the obelisk is all about but you should all understand that Ellen was not the one who put that obelisk there
@@masholdkahuma343 Wow! Really? Are you are implying that she had no knowledge of what was happening in her husband's grave?? How is that possible
@@masholdkahuma343 she put it after thirteen years being dead. Her soul did it at night.....
Amen, There s a land that is fairer than day and by faith we can see it afar
An obelisk 🤔🤔🤔
Moses lived under obelisks, then returned back to that country of obelisks. I guess that negates all the great things he did.
@@Bona19646 He didn't create an 1844 Jesus! that is the devil himself!
@@Bona19646 aah so Ellen White was forced to be burried under an obelisk right. Because that’s just an american custom I guess ? Okay I see. 🫤🤥🤭
This Lady is inside this grave.Another man WEN baptized heaven opened and a voice descended from heaven and said this is my son.This same person grave is empty and resides at the right hand side of Almighty God this two persons each one established religion one is Christian religion one SDA which of these two u must listen nobody hv to tell u.Under Christian dispensation no revelation permitted Luke 16:16 and Heb 1:1ff.
Honestly, what are you guys doing there , you couldn't do that somewhere else.
Because it's about money! This is not about Christianity!
Because it's about money it's not about Christianity at all!
Because it's about money it's not about Christianity at all!
I see you had to do that because they were blocking his comments
The obalisk on the grave show they were also high ranking free masons...
So the sda was founded by free masonry.
Founded by the devil himself
Don't not speak with ignorance...kindly test the spirit whether it is from God.Have you read her writing s anytime? Kindly read for your self.
@@KimberlyADarling why because you heard this from your preacher? Did you check her writings or believe all that your church is saying!?
@@johnsavel5995 what preacher would tell the truth about SDA. I’ve bought no leads than seven books by former SDAs and read the the heretical teaching of the investigative judgement , and know how much she plagiarized from others. She didn’t even try to hide that. I pray for you all. I’m trying to save my son from the grasp her SDA gf has over him. And she can’t even know she’s saved. Neither can you. Despaired the biblical truth Jesus died, and resurrected himself and sits as High Priest declaring anyone who follows Him and obeys His commands know they’re saved and won’t be “called up” in any given moment and be judged then and there and find out that way they have eternal life. I likely know more than you do about your own colored history or rewrite after rewrite of the church manual, and ALL the time Ellen changed her own mind and updated her own writings because when you lie you have to keep going back over and over and re explaining the confusing apostate doctrines. I pity you.
You’re probably just paid shells trying to counter the vast numbers of SDAs leaving the church and coming to the light as found in Former Adventist Fellowship conferences where people cry giving their testimonies after learning g the true Biblical truth of salvation that’s been withheld from them their whole protected SDA “bubble” lives.
This was proven by theologian Dr Walter Rae but was opposed by Dr ford plagiarism was found in Many of her books Dr Rae wrote the WHITE LIE about E white.
They make her writings equal to the Bible just like the Mormons do. Joseph Smith was he cousin, by the way!
Absolutely NOT!
So ironic that her last writing were for the youths....Look at the way the youths of today are behaving, they have become lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God. Who is to blame? Hmmmm
Yourself
You got to remember most of what she wrote r was plagiarized... written by somebody else. She did that to cover up for the 1844 demonic Jesus.( That she created). Which is what created the cult. Of SDA as it is! That 1844 Jesus is the devil himself!
Her ,And the devil, Created 1844 Jesus!
God never spoke to the woman!
According to testimony of brethren Aston Mbaya and Moses Lushiku who are alive,the way they are receiving messages from God is the same way EG White was receiving her messages both do not breathe when in trance.the plagiarism people accuse her of are actually messages given to her and the writers tasked of writting are the ones adding these
Why is a free mason sex symbols doing on her grave?
@@oellyomondi yeah, that may be true.. but it's not coming from God!... At least on Ellen White...(. God would have never created in 1844 Jesus). That does not forgive sin.
If she was really God's prophettes, why didn't she see that an obelisk is satanic.
How could she know about the obelisk on her grave? She spent much effort exposing Freemasonry and the occult. Have you read her books? Are you familiar with how the Lord established her as His last day messenger?
@@Dr.Pepper001it goes back to Babylon! If she read the Bible she would know!
@@maggiemae7539 -- I think that she is not the one who requested an obelisk to be at her grave site. Those who took care of the burial details after she died decided, for whatever reason, to put it there. It doesn't detract from all the good she did. Have you read her books? Her writings are God's voice to me.
@Dr.Pepper001 the BIBLE is God's voice to you! Do not elevate her word to that level!
Sister White kept the commandments perfectly. She never sinned. What a wonderful woman.
Oh really so she didn't need a savior ?
Romans 3 : 10 "There is none righteous, no not one"
Romans 3: 23 "All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God."
When Adam and Eve sinned before God, their spirits died to God. All human beings born after Adam and Eve are born with a sin nature - they are born with spirits dead to God and need to be born again as written in John 3 : 5 for them to receive the righteousness of God which comes from Jesus when a sinner prays the prayer ofrepentance and comfesses the Lordship of Jesus Christ as written in Romans 10 9 -13.
A human being is not a sinner by committing sins. He or she is a sinner by being born with a spirit that is dead to God. He or she commits sibs by being born a sinner. Man is a born sinner and cannot make him or herself righteous and holy by observing the 10 commandments. In fact the 10 commandments are not enough. He or she needs to fully obey the 10 commandments plus the 603 ceremonial laws (the whole law - that is all the laws contained in the Book of the law = 613) to obtain the righteousness which is from the law..
Romans 3 : 21 - 23 tells us about the righteousness of God apart from the righteousness which is from the law which has been revealed to us through Jesus Christ.
Only Jesus Christ walked on rhis earth without sinning and therefore fulfilled the demands of the law of Moses for righteousness whilst in a body like we sinners have on our behalf. There is nothing that we an do on our on power to earn righteousness but to believe in Jesus Christ.
That is why in John 3 : 16 it is written:
FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE."
Man is saved only by believing in Jesus Christ and committing their lives to him. Not by obeying any laws or commandments. Yes he or she has to live a righteous and holy life by being baptized with the Holy Spirit and being led by Him.
@@CH-ud4ee Come on. She went to Starbucks with Enoch on planet Claire.
@@thulanimakhaye8458 Surely EGW was an exception. She had a bionic arm and everything.
You are joking right? Only Jesus had no sin. That's why He became the perfect sacrificial Lamb for the sin of mankind. Jesus came to this world to die and atone for our sins precisely because we were incapable of keeping rhe law and fulfill the righteous demands of the law of Moses. He did that by living a sinless life thus fulfilling the demands of the law of Moses for righteousness on our behalf. When a person prays a sinner's prayer in accordance with Romans 10 : 9 - 13 and becomes born again in his or her spirit his or her sins are completely forgiven. The sin nature is removed and that person receivies the righteousness of God which comes from Jesus and is reconciled back to God.
Ellen G White was born a sinner just like everybody else. She misled and her heretical writings and prophecies continue to mislead millions of people worlwide. Such people believing her false doctrine die unsaved and become candidates of hell. She is the worst of the sinners.