Ellen G. White and True Adventist Theology
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Ellen G. White was a co-founder of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. The relationship of her writings and gift of prophecy are frequently misunderstood and misapplied by both Adventists and non-Adventists. Dr. Merlin Burt Ph.D. is director of the Ellen G. White Estate and an expert on Ellen White. He will share a presentation of writings and artifacts to reveal the truth behind Ellen G. White and Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) theology.
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This is SO helpful to me. I have had to answer people around me who despise EGW and call her a false prophet. This presentation with its many clarifications is refreshing. Such a blessing to my battered soul after dealing with doubters of her ministry from within the church and from without.
I will say this, Follow God, and no man! That's why people are calling her a false prophet. They speak more about her than Jesus!
@@brownfeather865 that’s what Ellen white said as well, follow God and not man. How does people making the mistake of putting EGW first make her a false prophet?
@JustA Messenger If you can't figure it out yourself, then you are certainly lost! See, you said that's what she said! I'm telling you what God said....
@@brownfeather865
Whether I can figure out what you mean or not does not determine whether I am lost or not. Lol.
Yes, her saying it means she followed the same principle you stated, follow God and not man. So she would agree with you that’s what the Bible teaches.
But your reason for saying she is a false prophet makes no sense. People who mistakenly hold her writings over the Bible does not mean she is false, it means that those people are wrong, not her. Whether a prophet is true or false is defined by Isaiah 8:20, not by the actions of some of her followers.
Ellen white taught that the Bible is above everything, including her wrotings. A false prophet would not say this. So please explain how peolle mistakenly putting her words above the Bible makes her a false prophet.
Out of curiousity, have you ever read her books?
@@chrislucastheprotestantview I have heard of this explanation before. Unfortunately it is incorrect.
Let me clarify some things.
1. It's a waste of time discussing the actual month or day the day of Atonement falls on. SDA do not celebrate the day of Atonement. The term is used as a spiritual application only. No one in 1844 was looking for an actual day of Atonement; therefore, trying to explain things in a literal sense is a waste of time.
2. The Scriptures whether in English or Hebrew says 2300 evenings and mornings (or evenings mornings). The Scriptures absolutely do not say 1150 evenings and mornings. Each would no longer be a day. Imagine if in Genesis 1 God created the world in 3 days if we take your reasoning further. That's how silly it is to say the same about 2300 evenings and mornings. Read different Bible versions from varied scholarly commentators; they all typically have "days" or "evenings and mornings" (which is saying ABSOLUTELY the same thing). The Scriptures do not cut the timeline in half. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason AT ALL to do this other than to use it as a THEORY sense other means don't work for those trying to get Antiochus to fulfill it.
3. The word "sacrifices" is not in the Hebrew or originals. Bible translators supplied it to the phrase "daily" BUT it is not in the originals. The "daily", as a result, is referring to other matters than simply sacrifices and has greater spiritual application because the little horn would last till the TIME OF THE END. THE VISION IS FOR THE TIME OF THE END, according to the angel speaking with Daniel; THEREFORE, it is also clear that Antiochus Epiphanes is not the little horn. FURTHERMORE, Jesus referred to the prophecy. How can Antiochus be the fulfillment if Jesus referred to the same prophecy? And FURTHERMORE, how can the little horn antichrist be the fulfillment if Paul himself reminded the church that the prophecy was YET to be fulfilled in the person of the Papacy in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12?
So, lots of homework there.
Thank you so much. I now have a better understanding of the MEANING OF TESTIMONY OF JESUS. Thd ministry of the Holy Spirit is absolutely amazing.
In my own experience of reading Mrs. White writing is just like what has been said here. I read STEP TO CHRIST just to improve my English, then the Holy Spirit lovingly and amazingly brought me to JESUS and the Bible. I learn to understand the Bible through Mrs. White writing in my early stage of conversion. Now I see the beautiful truth of the word of God and can't afford to miss my daily Scripture reading. I am absolutely convinced Mrs. White role as appointed by God no matter what others negative opinions are.
I have read through most of the "Spirit Of Prophecy" writings, If you read Daniel and Revelation in one sitting you see a flow of events that took place till He (Jesus) appeared the first time and Revelation takes us through the seven churches and Ellen was part of the "Philadelphia" Church experience then she writes much on the last days (Church of Laodicea) the lukewarmness of the current SDA congregational churches all throughout the world. We have been given much and much will be asked of us on the day of God? Even though she had partly third grade education, how God helped her to write it and its all inspired. "God Breathed" when you read the Bible God gives us understanding. I don't think many Adventists understand what it means to loose salvation if we stay lukewarm possessed with earthly treasures, all of us can see how the heathen nations rage and shocking floods, fires, earthquakes in diverse places (Matt 24), as long as apostasy goes on in America, America will loose everything they worked hard for? God is visiting every nation in Judgement now, for we are living in the hour of His judgement! The apostate churches preach the false gospels and their knowledge on the prophecies are all over the place and deceiving billions! because they have missed the Mark on Christ's ministry in the heavenly Sanctuary since He ascended on High and sat on the right hand of the heavenly Father. One must understand the first angel's message and look at the Commandments of God in Exodus 20: 1-17 then we will understand the second and the third angels' messages. When the latter rain is falling all around us we might miss it because of lack of Spirit and Prayers for us and others, searching of the Scriptures, knowledge won't save us but these knowledge as long as we are led by the Spirit to hold on to Jesus in the "Most Holy Place" having forgiven every sin and be ready to meet Him. Spirit of Prophecy is an excellent pointer to the deep searching of the Scriptures. God bless you!
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@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Make sure that you add 1 to your answer because there is no year zero. Time in years went from 1 BC to 1 AD. 2300 - 1844 = 456 + 1 = 457 BC. Also, prophecy uses time prophetically: 1 day = 1 year. So it's 2300 years, not 2300 days. Yes, GOD, the Holy Spirit is not a man that He should lie. GOD cannot lie. Hope this helps your understanding. 🙏🏾
Saying that is not a proof.
I truly loved this presentation. We should receive all these Testimonies from Jesus given to us in love, we all our hearts. All true Seventh-day-Adventists will believe and preach these 7 doctrines; Salvation, Scripture, Second coming, State of the dead, Spirit of prophecy, Sabbath, Sanctuary.
Amen!
@@JamieElison lf it hurts us to hear the lies --- how much God is NOT glorified
@@JamieElison l think I was agreeing with you that sda preached lies. It breaks God's heart 😒
Dotin ballaban --- for the eternal good of your soul ask the Lord Jesus Christ to show you the wonderful finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. IT IS FINISHED!!
God will NOT accept any other WAY
Happy sabbath ☺ to all sabbath keepers around the world 🌎.
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Is there a sabbath keeper anywhere and how? Hopefully but how?
Oh agree be happy on the sabbath😮😊
Where are you in this world? I'm in Colorado.
@@danmoen755 , google the closest 7th Day Adventist church near you and Pray that they teach "the Old 7th Day Beliefs , it they don't Run and find one that does , like Walter Veith on youtube
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Yes there are sabbath keepers. I am one.
Jesus's body was dead on the sabbath..death is a total rest..He wanted the world to die to sabbath keeping..& to keep His resurrection in their resurrection to new life..thru His blood..into everlasting & eternal life..with Him dwelling in our hearts as Lord & Saviour
forever..once a person becomes a Christian,
he will always be a Christian..hemay normt always think & act like a Christian..
but he will always be a Christian ..the relationship is unbreakable & irrevocable & unconditional..so he can backslide into heaven..like Aninias & Sapphira..but not into hell..there is a sin unto physical death for a Christian..shortening his life..to keep him from going to hell..
this is the doctrine of Baptist churches..any church or any person can believe that..any
Lost person can pray asking Christ to come into his heart & to bring his dead spirit to life & to cleanse it past & present & future..so that He can dwell there
as their Saviour & Lord..on the throne in their heart.."He that hath begun a good work in you shall perform it unto the day of redemption".."He is the author & finisher of our faith".."whatever God does, He does forever".."we are kept by His power".."when you drink of this water, you will never thirst again"
Happy Sabbath to all my brothers and sisters out there. Be Blessed🙏🙏
Happy Sabbath brethren. 🙏
Happy Sabbath and God's richest blessings from Jamaica 🇯🇲
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Lord Jesus finished His work on the cross, His death burial, and resurrection, no other work is required.
You are correct..in order for a lost person to be saved..he needs to pray asking Christ to come into his heart..& to bring his dead spirit to life..with His perfect blood. & to cleanse him of his sins
in his past & present & future..all in one moment..asking for Christ to come into his heart forever to stay..
setting up an eternal & unbreakable relationship with him..reinging upon the themrone of his heart forever as his Saviour & Lord..salvation is a gift..the gift comes after a sinner prays
asking for salvation.
Happy Sabbath from the East.🙏❤️✝️🌹
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Not even Jesus knows the time of his coming so drop these prophecies by anyone be it EG White
Awesome message. Thanks for sharing. God bless your ministry
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Happy Sabbath from Rwanda! Be blessed, Remnant Church
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Happy Sabbath to us all ❤❤❤
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Happy Sabbath 😍🙏🏻💕
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I read through the bible with her books once, was a new convert, I need to do it again. Happy Sabbath
That would be great. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Excellent talk. Always interested in our Adventist heritage
Very good!
This is such a great presentation ! Finally it has sounded clearly where the Adventist doctrine comes from and moreover it is backed by sound and thorough historical studies. Thank you for this dr. Merlin Burt
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Shabbat Shalom!!!
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Ellen White has been of immense blessing to my life. Even now, as a participant in Baha’i Community, her words energize my daily life. Mrs. White wrote: “We are all woven together in the great web of humanity, and whatever we can do to benefit and uplift others will reflect in blessing upon ourselves.” Thanks, professor Merlin & all Adventists, for keeping alive the wonderful message of Ellen White & William Miller.
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Wonderful study! Enjoyed it so much! Thank you!
Praise God for His Love, His Mercy, and His Grace!
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@@MaryMartinez-lm5tvMary what’s salvation???
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv I hate stories and that’s why I’m an SDA, can you send me scriptures????…how can I understand this
Blessed SABBATH EVERONE !!!
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@@JamieElisonI felt like a change
Happy Sabbath from Zambia 🇿🇲
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Happy Sabbath. This is comforting. I have seen alot of false accusations against EGW...even she was labeled false prophet...but this presentation was inspiring to me as a convert to Seventh Day Adventist church. Praise God for EGW and Adventist church.
Bless the name of the LORD for inspired HIS people through them we're so bless today let's pray for each other that OUR LORD can use us also to be HIS messengers GOD bless you pass .one day soon we'll spending the sabbath with the LORD
Excellent lesson
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Where can I find the presentation on the Sabbath that was referenced? The presenter said that the Sabbath was presented in the context of righteousness by faith. Is that online?
Well , when Ellen White is writing about the Sabbath,she is including righteousness by faith ,all her books contain righteousness by faith
Blessed Sabbath everyone!
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Happy Sabbath Pastor
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happy Sabbath, thank for sharing, every little bit help, keep it coming God bless 🙏 🙏🙏
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Brilliant exposition of the Entire Spirit of Prophecy for our time in relationship to Accepted Canonical Scripture!
Thank you! We’re glad Dr. Burt was able to share this through our RUclips channel.
Grateful for the presentation, is there a way to have those charts in soft copies
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Happy Sabbath everyone blessing beautiful history.
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Why Alen G. White is an urgent to be referred while you're talking about/ teaching the Word of God?
Thank you so much for this presentation - what a blessing!❤
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@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv pray that God will deliver these poor folks out of satanic grip. Only God can OPEN their eyes to the truth of the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation
@@HL365 please Sir --- you WILL regret misleading these poor souls in eternity. Teachers will be judged more harshly
@@JamieElison that shows God is seeking to convict him
Where can one download the powerpoint presentation.
Sorry. That is not available.
❤Happy Sabbath World
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It is only today I was able to find this channel. Thank you for this presentation. It is worth watching. God bless!❤
I’m glad you found our RUclips channel. Be sure to visit back every week for new contents.
@@HL365 I'll definitely make sure to visit back every week to see what's new. It's great to know that there will always be fresh content to look forward to. Keep up the good work!😇
Run. RUN NOW! Read Hebrews 7:27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself.
People of the BOOK... 🙏🙏🙏Amen!
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Sleeping people of the book in time we live in.
Sabbath blessings to everyone
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Thank you for opening our understanding on the work of this servant of the Lord.
You’re welcome!
Mary, please take a listen to the presentation.
Happy Sabbath Saints of God ❤️💐🎁💕
Sabbath Blessings when it comes!
Thank God for the eternal gift of prophecy
Which has illuminated our darkness with light eternal
Amen!
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tvwhy are you here with your “feelings”???!……can you help anyone with feelings 😢
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv my dear I sat down to read the scripture for years till God show me his salvation…..how I wish you could show me scriptures your salvation is based on and I will be delighted that you saved my soul……..NEVER SAY TO SOMEONE THAT DEVIL IS IN YOUR HEART!, HOW CAN YOU SAVE ME LIKE THIS..AND REMEMBER WHAT JESUS SAID
42:33
the ME KELLOGG - LITHOGRAPH
can we have this PDF
and who in the SDA CHURCH can tell me
what the 2 banners on the tree say
LOVE TO GOD - LEFT LOVE TO MAN - RIGHT
so KELLOGG could not refer to the 10 COMANDMENTS AS "LAW"
sounds like the OMEGA sprinklings was deep in our SCHOOLS
DR MERLIN ANY ANSWERS on this ?
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@@HL365
Well KELLOGG was clearly OMEGA CENTRIC . LOVE
are we putting FEAR ASIDE like KELLOGG AND EVE
and many top SDA THEOLOGICAL circles are we not twisting EGW to KELLOGG errors
ELLEN G WHITE was clear with EVE
EVE . PUT ASIDE FEAR
Things are starting to add up
4 But for those who fear you, you have raised a banner to be unfurled against the bow.
5 Save us and help us with your right hand, that those you love may be delivered.
Psalms 60:4 NIV
FEAR + LOVE are two words that are symbiotic in the bible
I love this even tho I didn't get to write all he say but I praise GOD for this study GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME
Just read the Book "Steps to Christ" There is a wonderful principle in that book that draws you in, i have given bible studies based on that and many have come to Christ and been baptized!
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Happy Sabbath from Indiana❤️
Thank you so much for all God's gifts from Ellen White. Thank you that I can receive this message
Sabbath greetings & blessings to you as well sister!
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Happy Sabbath brethren
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God is good!!
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It is about the whole law!❤
It is so rich! We have a great treasure - a great trophy- let us not throw it away! Stand up stand up for Jesus. He is coming back very soon
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God bless you pastor
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Sabbath Sholom 😊
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Amen...a very appropriate title to your sermon.
And yet, how is it that our present church proclaims a gospel other than that which EGW and the pioneers of our church first established?
Why is it that our present fundamental beliefs starkly differ to that which was originally validated by the very Spirit of God, and thereby recorded?
The 1872 fundamental principles conflict with that which is documented in our 1980 beliefs.
How did this come to be?
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@@HL365 You say 'concerns with evidence'.
Is not the very evidence contained and self-evident in the 1872 fundamental principles?
It is all there in 'detail'.
Should not all SDA members be 'concerned' that our church has wandered away from the pillars of our pioneers?
The 28 Fundamental Beliefs have 3 God's, look at 3-5. The Bible portrays one (1) God - James 2:19 etc. The White Estate will give you the run around. The Bible says to "ask for the old paths..but they (SDA Church) said "we will not walk therein." Jeremiah 6:16. YES the 1872 Fundamental Principles should be still used!!!
@@howardloewen1834 Thankyou for chiming in.
I do see that we are on the same page on this. Recently there are more church members that are awakening to the truth of our God. It is far more than a shame to find that our denomination has buried the old truth. They have venerated 'another god'.
Our heavenly Father is calling his remnant. HIS OWN Spirit is poking and prodding the spirit of man.
Prayer for wisdom🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
We will pray for you.
"God is love" is neither the first words or the last words in the completely trustworthy Volumes 1-4 of Spirit of Prophecy, the hardbacks of which I have and read daily. However, I also read the 5 Volume Conflict of the Ages series.
God is love is the first and last phrase of the conflict of the ages series.
IAM blown away by this illustration of sis white point us to the Bible and help to understand the truth
Happy Sabbath too
Not sure if this has been addressed in the comments as yet. However I’d like to know more about the Chart. “1843” chart I think it was called.
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Happy Sabbath............Manu from Malta
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Happy sabbath every one
Hope you had a good Sabbath.
Wow
I’m so relieved.
Praise zehhh Lord🙌
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I am very suspicious of anyone that will not read from the King James Bible 🤔
Who are you referring to?
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Thank you for clearing that up from her critics.
Amen LORD!!!
Amen!
“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.”
Hebrews 1:1-2 NIV
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv exactly!!!!
Happy SABBATH
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Happy that I left SDA.
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Happy Sabbath 🙏🏽
Hope you had a good Sabbath!
Did E. White not have access the New Testement? How could she/they predict the arrival of Jesus Christ in 1844 when according to Scripture, no man knows the day nor the hour, not even Jesus Christ? I would greatly appreciate some insight/answers. Thank you.
Ellen white did not predict the second coming.
@@justamessenger4577 that is why I stated "they" . Some either before or after her were rooted in the Great Disappointment of 1844. That is the clarification I'm seeking.
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The prediction of the second coming in 1844 was made by William miller. He started preaching it in the 1830s. Ellen white and others heard him preach it at some point and joined his movement. Why William miller did not take “no one knows the day or hour” into account, I do not know.
@@justamessenger4577 thank you. I just don't understand how or why some SDA take her word (EGW) above Gods when she was a part of a movement that did not take the scriptures into account on some occasions. The way she is "lifted" up is sometimes a hindrance to the true work of the gospel.
@@ladyempire5921
When William miller was preaching the second coming, ellen white was not getting visions yet. She did not start having them until after the great disappointment. And one thing that she taught after that was that “no one knows the day nor hour”. She was very adamant that predictions about the second coming were not allowed. So she would agree with you that “no one knows the day nor hour”. Her writings follow the Bible very well.
We do not hold her writings above the Bible, not even she did. She made it clear that her writings were not meant to replace the Bible. Some may have put her writings above the Bible, but I have not met any that do this and I have been an Adventist for over 20 years.
Thañjs
The greatest command is to love one another- to come and reason… I am always astounded by the hate that spews and exposes the senders.
Yes. We must love each other as ourselves.
Lovely message
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Wow, powerful heresy
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Ellen White, investigative judgment, Michael being Christ, etc. Christ came to save the sinner, not the righteous man, yet she teaches that only those worthy, those without sin, can be saved.
She taught a false gospel, saying Christ's death was the beginning of salvation even though Christ said , " It is finished," not , " it has begun."
Thanks
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Thanks for this presentation
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what is the ethinicity of ellen white? just curious!
Praise God for his manifestation
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What is happening with the SDA members tithing monies ?
Please read this: www.adventist.org/guidelines/use-of-tithe/#:~:text=supported%20from%20tithe.-,“The%20tithe%20is%20to%20be%20used%20for%20one%20purpose%2C%20to,be%20consumed%20in%20incidental%20expenses.
I think we are overly sensitive to placating those that are unconverted in the Church in regard to the authority of Ellen White. Those that are genuinely converted will hear the voice of the good Shepherd in her writings. We don't need to be equivocal about our certainty in the authority behind her writings.
@Thy Word Is Truth...I honestly do not understand what you are trying to say. Please speak plainly so that, I, a simple-minded person, can understand.
I am not being rude... I seriously do not understand. Could you rephrase it, but in simpler terms?
Who is the one true Shepherd in Ezek? hint- it's not who u think it is.
@Jamie Elison u know who Ezek is, u have seen Ezek, Jer, Isa, etc many times in ur study, and if u are familiar with the book of Ezek, u would know who, by name, is the the one true Shepherd that will be in the Eternal Kingdom in the future, are u familiar with the book of Ezekiel? Yes No?
@Jamie Elison It has everything to do with the conversation, are u paying attention? Does good Shepherd ring a bell?
@@JamieElison wake up Ezek 34:23,24 Ezek 37:24,25
Revelation 14:6-12, with its description of the messages of the three angels, stands at the very heart of Seventh-day Adventist identity as Ellen White saw it. She held from the beginning of her ministry to its end nearly 71 years later that God had especially commissioned Adventism to preach the message of the third angel. EWIT 120.3
Catch the sense of mission in her words: “In a special sense Seventh-day Adventists have been set in the world as watchmen and light bearers. To them has been entrusted the last warning for a perishing world.... They have been given a work of the most solemn import-the proclamation of the first, second, and third angels’ messages. There is no other work of so great importance. They are to allow nothing else to absorb their attention. EWIT 120.4
“The most solemn truths ever entrusted to mortals have been given to us to proclaim to the world. The proclamation of these truths is to be our work. The world is to be warned, and God’s people are to be true to the trust committed to them.”-Testimonies for the Church 9:19 EWIT 120.5
Like the other Seventh-day Adventist leaders, Ellen White viewed the three angels’ messages as a “perfect chain of truth” (Early Writings, 256) that extended from the 1840s to the end of time. The first message (the hour of the arrival of God’s judgment), they concluded, had been initiated by the preaching of William Miller in the 1830s and 1840s, while the second (the fall of Babylon) began to be preached in 1843
@@JamieElison what is ???
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv 457 ???
Happy Sabbath Evening Everyone 😊
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praise Lord
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Christ is our Sabbath rest. He instructed to come to Him to find rest. He is the Lord of the Sabbath rest. Paul tried to emphasize this as believers argued over days to worship. It was the Jews major flaw in dealing with scripture, making it legalistic and physical. Christ is our Sabbath rest, which makes every day holy and sacred.
Jesus did not replace the sabbath day. The Bible does not support that.
I agree with you..once you are saved, you will always be saved..a true sabbath rest in Christ never ends..
being born again is forever.
Did Ellen G. White write anything in her books and in her articles or in her correspondence or say anything in her sermons about the involvement of Africans in the slave trade? I would like to have references to that.
I'm not aware but you can search here: egwwritings.org
No, I didn't miss that point. But my question is: Why Ellen G. White's works are important to understand to understand the Word of God? If she were a woman of God( God knows better) what about other men of God? Now is it that we need to know about all other men of God ( not mentioned in the Bible) and then we should advance to study the Word of God? Is it biblical? Are you appointed by God to tell your audience all this - preaching Ellen White? Answer me after visiting God.
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@@JamieElison
Earlier you mentioned what a true Christian would do. Well desiring to debate someone openly just so you can show them up is not the way a Christian goes about things. So if you consider yourself a Christian, you are not acting like one.
I like to be like you too in Jesus name I pray
Let's strive to be like Jesus. May God bless you.
Did she not say that if we read and studied our bibles like we should we wouldn't need the writings?
Yes, she did but since the Bible states that if you really want to have any gift, the gift of prophecy is the best one to chose so God decided to give to Seventhdayv adventists.
we say her writings direct us to scriptures but the church often directs us to her writings, I think this is issue, especially for younger generations.
After her, was there no one else who had insight which also contributed to the church?
Also I have wondered so much about the investigative judgment and its Biblical basis. Our salvation through Jesus sacrifice for us isn’t that complete?
thanks for any insight
The investigative judgement has its biblical foundation several ways:
1) revelation 22:12 Jesus said He is coming with rewards. That means who gets what reward has already been determined. Which then means this was “investigated” before He returns.
2) check out anytime God pronounced judgment on anyone (Adam/eve, Sodom and Gomorrah, the flood, babel, etc). There are many examples of an investigation being done prior to judgment in the Bible.
3) Daniel shows books being opened before the second coming (Daniel 7:10)
EGW's writings, or original books more specifically, have been changed by re-editing and now have become the focus of SDA members to keep reading in place of the greater light, aka, the Authorized Bible, aka, the KJV. God did not give anyone the authorization to change or mess with the words of his prophets, including his prophets.
@@terry5914
That is a generalized statement you are making. SDA in general do not put her writings above the Bible. Some may but I haven’t met any.
@@justamessenger4577 What ever it is, got only a portion of it acknowledged. Do you think it is alright to change the words of God's messengers?
What exactly is Scripture? Do u know?
We are the Sanctuary that Christ is preparing, We are the Place that Christ is gone to Prepare, so that where he is, we will be Also.
Where is Christ? Christ is at the Right hand of His Father,
Where is the Right of the Father? Is God's Word, the POWER to Speak the Word of God with Boldness, With Authority, with Courage, Without Fear and Trembling. That's How Christ was fill with the Holy Ghost, and that's Where he want us to be with him.
Heaven is not a Place you go to, The Kingdom of Heaven is Within Us.
Christ is the Church,
And the Church is Within Us.
That's the Truth.
Christ is the RESSURRECTION
Christ is the Life.
Christ is the Beginning
Christ is the End
Christ Gospel is the End.
When we hear the Gospel that's when the End Come, because the The Gospel of Christ is the End.
I think that you are trying to speak the truth..but you may have confused your
words..but not on purpose..the kingdom of God is within you..that is when you are saved..the kingdom of Heaven
Imis the 1000 yr.
reign of Christ upon this earth following
the 7 yrs of tribulation upon this earth..which follows the rapture of the church from the earth..the church is the bride of Christ..the church is the body of Christ..Christ is at the right hand of God..in heaven..sitting upon His throne there..but He is also sitting forever upon the throne in the heart of each Christian..as His eternal Saviour & Lord.
There are saved churches are there are lost churches..there are churches that are mixed with both saved & lost people..the church is just a gathering of people..the church of Laodicea was lost..Christ was knocking upon the door. Wanting to come in..to prepare them for the rapture & the marriage supper of the Lamb..but they would not let Him in..so that church will go into the tribulation..some may be saved by the preaching of Moses & Elijah..but many.. if not all..with receive the strong delusion of the antichrist..because they will believe his lies..the church of Philadelphia is raptured to the safety of heaven..that church will go the marriage supper of the Lamb & judgement seat of Christ to receive rewards..some Christians at the marriage supper of the Lamb will be seated at the end of the table in outer darkness.. weeping & gnashing their teeth for 1007 yrs..but with the new heaven & new earth...when this old earth & universe is restored..their tears & bad memories will be wiped away..they backslid into heaven by the skin of their teeth..& they were saved so as by fire..like Aninias
and Sapphira.
What scripture did EGW reference when rebuked KELLOGG on the OMEGA issue
LOVE TO GOD + LOVE TO MAN with the OMEGA EYE
CAN WE HAVE THIS PDF OF THE TREE IMAGE TO SEE KELLOGGS WORK
My point is if we have issues and not in the scripture then we need to refer to EGW
that's not what the EYE means only - it has a lot more meanings than EVER SEEING
it also has a OMEGA meaning a OMEGA POINT
secret societies only mimic older PAGAN issues , secret societies did not imagine something new , nothing is new under the SUN
yes GOD IS LOVE that is one test
tho 200 times EGW has the words LOVE + FEAR in holy WEDLOCK in the BIBLE
ALPHA + OMEGA
do a word search LOVE AND FEAR together in her writings and alllll the fullness of it
HAS OUR SANITARIUMS used expensive MODERN MEDICINES like the BICYCLE
this sermon is confusing we are the PEOPLE OF THE SCRIPTURE
there would not be issues in the THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK if only had EGW as the second book we have all these other books in our schools
so before we get into the rabbit hole of EGW VS BIBLE why not clean out all other theologies and issues first
One thing I know about prophecy if it's really from God there are no mistakes..Never
That is not true. Prophets when they have visions do experience certain supernatural phenomenon. You can read about it in Daniel 10. If you have further questions, please email us at info@hopelives365.com
Absolutely
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Why not believe in Joseph Smith. Or Mary Eddy.
Unlike Ellen White, they are false prophets. Please watch this to learn what we believe about Ellen White: ruclips.net/video/_XEaCP_iarA/видео.html
Day keeping and food are not the test of true Christian faith.
Doing anything God requires is a test of faith.
For example, the sabbath. It takes a good amount of faith to reject a high paying job that requires work on the sabbath.
I was unemployed for a year after I retired from the military because everyone I interviewed with wanted me to work on sabbath. I finally got a job that did not require work on sabbath. God got us through the time of unemployment until He opened up an opportunity for me.
So keeping the sabbath is a test of faith.
@justamessenger4577 keeping the Saturday sabbath is the sign of being in a non-christian cult..to be saved our faith needs to rest in the new testament resurrection of Christ..his body was
dead in the grave on Saturday..nothing was done on Saturday..
nothing can save no one..to be saved, there has to be the resurrection of Christ
& the new life in Christ involved.
@@charlesmargolin6832
It is clear you do not know what SDA believe. Let me make this clear.
We don’t keep the sabbath to be saved, this is a very common misconception that is not unique to you. We are saved by the grace of God, that is one of our foundational beliefs. We keep the sabbath because we are saved and becasue we love Jesus. And as you said, we hold to the promise of the resurrection because Jesus was resurrected. No SDA would disagree with you.
Now that you know what SDA believe in this area, do you still think we are a cult? Especially since when it comes to being saved, we believe the same thing you do?
And Jesus being in the grave on sabbath and “nothing happening” on the sabbath does not change anything.
@@justamessenger4577 IF U DONT KEEP THE SABBATH TO BE SAVED WHY IS OBSERVANCE OF THE CEREMONIAL 7TH DAY SABBATH THE SEAL OF GOD? THE ENTRY MARKER INTO HEAVEN? IF U DONT SEE THE CONTRADICTIONS UR CLEARLY INDOCTRINATED
I'm not a member of the SDA. Read through Lev 11 , Acts 15 :21 , Eph 2 :12 , Matt 9;16-19 , John 14:15, 1John 5:2-3 , Romans 13:9 , Deut 2:28. I can list more scripture for you if needed.
Have you ever heard the expression you are what you eat ? Do you realize the animals that roll around in or eat their own excrement literally carry parasites and bacterium ? Have you ever heard that approximately 90% or more of all disease known to man is related to gut health ?
I'm looking into these topics since, if nothing else, it's logical and biblical.
A neighbor just gave me some of Ellen Whites writings. Very interesting, so far.
If we are people of the book, and Ellen White always pointed people to the book, and we believe in the principle of Sola Scriptura, then why do we need Ellen White and continue to quote her? Shouldn't the Bible be all we need?
Why do you use different sources when researching? For greater clarity... deeper understanding. Her writings help to magnify God's Word.
Why do you listen to sermons since you have your Bible?
If you know and believe that listening to good and godly sermons is right then reading and quoting Ellen books is also similar to listening to sermons. And as long as her writings is not against the scripture then why should we despise and her writings so much.
I have come to realize that many in the SDA church hate to hear anything about Ellen white simply because her writings are rebuke to their lives, those who hate ELLEN WHITE writings are the enemy of the church and are not ready to change their attitude base on her writings and warnings.
Just as the pharisees saw Jesus as a threat to them so also many in the church today are the descendants of the pharisees, they hate the sayings and writings of ELLEN WHITE, her writings are simply threat to their ungodly lives.
Even Sis White (as she was called back then) herself encouraged others to first go to the scriptures... not her testimonies. She was a messenger of God pointing all to the scriptures- God's word.
@@adaramolabunmi4667exactly dear brother God bless you
@@ricardoleslie9811people want to live like Egyptians, I understand why people rebel against Moses and God in the desert
We know not the hour of HIS return .
Yes, we do not know the hour of His return. Therefore, let us be always ready.
Ellen G. White is the Spirit of Prophecy for the last fays!
It is interesting you say that, because; "The Spirit of Prophesy" is and was an original 4 volume set of books EGW wrote and published from 1870 - 1884, the SDA conference church has removed them from circulation and replaced with corrupted re-edits called the "Conflict Series". There is substantial evidence to validate tampering with EGW's books by just comparing her original books with the modern re-edits. "The Spirit of Prophesy" original book series can still be found and/or read on line.
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Isn't it best, for one to do one's own research?
If you look at the very head of the line in that picture Robert Folkenberg is leading the line, not Jesus.
Sorry, that’s not correct.
@@HL365 It is Folkenberg, look closer. I had that picture until I noticed that and threw it away. If you think the SDA church is being led by Jesus you are mistaken. "The church has turned back from following Christ her leader and is steadily retreating toward Egypt." 5T 217 "The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not in her midst." LDE 49
How are these paintings not a transgression of 10 commandments. I am not here to argue, I am trying to wrap my head around Ellen white, I have accepted the Sabbath of God, I don't know what to do with that yet.
I also caught young men would have visions, why would scripture say this and then it be a young woman.
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She didn't have any argument with those who called her a prophet. Get the book "A Prophet Among You." by T. Housal Jaminson
What do you mean? Could you expound?
Her writings are the lesser light to lead us to the greater Light - JESUS
Yes.
1 Thessalonians 5:20, 21
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
We got our doctrines from the servant of the Lord writing with a pen of inspiration employing words barricaded by a thus saith the Lord.
No way, not true at all!
No true.
@@HL365 Thus saith YAH in the Law and Prophets = Torah Tenakh.