This is SO helpful to me. I have had to answer people around me who despise EGW and call her a false prophet. This presentation with its many clarifications is refreshing. Such a blessing to my battered soul after dealing with doubters of her ministry from within the church and from without.
@@brownfeather865 that’s what Ellen white said as well, follow God and not man. How does people making the mistake of putting EGW first make her a false prophet?
@JustA Messenger If you can't figure it out yourself, then you are certainly lost! See, you said that's what she said! I'm telling you what God said....
@@brownfeather865 Whether I can figure out what you mean or not does not determine whether I am lost or not. Lol. Yes, her saying it means she followed the same principle you stated, follow God and not man. So she would agree with you that’s what the Bible teaches. But your reason for saying she is a false prophet makes no sense. People who mistakenly hold her writings over the Bible does not mean she is false, it means that those people are wrong, not her. Whether a prophet is true or false is defined by Isaiah 8:20, not by the actions of some of her followers. Ellen white taught that the Bible is above everything, including her wrotings. A false prophet would not say this. So please explain how peolle mistakenly putting her words above the Bible makes her a false prophet. Out of curiousity, have you ever read her books?
@@chrislucastheprotestantview I have heard of this explanation before. Unfortunately it is incorrect. Let me clarify some things. 1. It's a waste of time discussing the actual month or day the day of Atonement falls on. SDA do not celebrate the day of Atonement. The term is used as a spiritual application only. No one in 1844 was looking for an actual day of Atonement; therefore, trying to explain things in a literal sense is a waste of time. 2. The Scriptures whether in English or Hebrew says 2300 evenings and mornings (or evenings mornings). The Scriptures absolutely do not say 1150 evenings and mornings. Each would no longer be a day. Imagine if in Genesis 1 God created the world in 3 days if we take your reasoning further. That's how silly it is to say the same about 2300 evenings and mornings. Read different Bible versions from varied scholarly commentators; they all typically have "days" or "evenings and mornings" (which is saying ABSOLUTELY the same thing). The Scriptures do not cut the timeline in half. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason AT ALL to do this other than to use it as a THEORY sense other means don't work for those trying to get Antiochus to fulfill it. 3. The word "sacrifices" is not in the Hebrew or originals. Bible translators supplied it to the phrase "daily" BUT it is not in the originals. The "daily", as a result, is referring to other matters than simply sacrifices and has greater spiritual application because the little horn would last till the TIME OF THE END. THE VISION IS FOR THE TIME OF THE END, according to the angel speaking with Daniel; THEREFORE, it is also clear that Antiochus Epiphanes is not the little horn. FURTHERMORE, Jesus referred to the prophecy. How can Antiochus be the fulfillment if Jesus referred to the same prophecy? And FURTHERMORE, how can the little horn antichrist be the fulfillment if Paul himself reminded the church that the prophecy was YET to be fulfilled in the person of the Papacy in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12? So, lots of homework there.
I truly loved this presentation. We should receive all these Testimonies from Jesus given to us in love, we all our hearts. All true Seventh-day-Adventists will believe and preach these 7 doctrines; Salvation, Scripture, Second coming, State of the dead, Spirit of prophecy, Sabbath, Sanctuary.
Dotin ballaban --- for the eternal good of your soul ask the Lord Jesus Christ to show you the wonderful finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. IT IS FINISHED!! God will NOT accept any other WAY
State of the dead : don't tell people who've been dead temporarily, that they'll just go into sleep til Jesus returns, cuz they've seen what Paul saw, that to be absent from the body is to be Present with The Lord. They say it's more real than here. They/ we will return with Christ, in glorified bodies, and a new earth and heaven. Also, without wanting to hear it, the Lord had me hear the accounts of people who were in hell and came back to grasp hold of Jesus. Hell is very real and very horrible, though it's not nice to know of it. God doesn't want any one to end up there, yet people who wouldn't receive Jesus as Savior and Life are there. It's terrible. Don't risk going there. Don't risk believing a person's take on the Bible. Let the Real Jesus show you what you need to know out of it.
Thank you so much. I now have a better understanding of the MEANING OF TESTIMONY OF JESUS. Thd ministry of the Holy Spirit is absolutely amazing. In my own experience of reading Mrs. White writing is just like what has been said here. I read STEP TO CHRIST just to improve my English, then the Holy Spirit lovingly and amazingly brought me to JESUS and the Bible. I learn to understand the Bible through Mrs. White writing in my early stage of conversion. Now I see the beautiful truth of the word of God and can't afford to miss my daily Scripture reading. I am absolutely convinced Mrs. White role as appointed by God no matter what others negative opinions are.
I have read through most of the "Spirit Of Prophecy" writings, If you read Daniel and Revelation in one sitting you see a flow of events that took place till He (Jesus) appeared the first time and Revelation takes us through the seven churches and Ellen was part of the "Philadelphia" Church experience then she writes much on the last days (Church of Laodicea) the lukewarmness of the current SDA congregational churches all throughout the world. We have been given much and much will be asked of us on the day of God? Even though she had partly third grade education, how God helped her to write it and its all inspired. "God Breathed" when you read the Bible God gives us understanding. I don't think many Adventists understand what it means to loose salvation if we stay lukewarm possessed with earthly treasures, all of us can see how the heathen nations rage and shocking floods, fires, earthquakes in diverse places (Matt 24), as long as apostasy goes on in America, America will loose everything they worked hard for? God is visiting every nation in Judgement now, for we are living in the hour of His judgement! The apostate churches preach the false gospels and their knowledge on the prophecies are all over the place and deceiving billions! because they have missed the Mark on Christ's ministry in the heavenly Sanctuary since He ascended on High and sat on the right hand of the heavenly Father. One must understand the first angel's message and look at the Commandments of God in Exodus 20: 1-17 then we will understand the second and the third angels' messages. When the latter rain is falling all around us we might miss it because of lack of Spirit and Prayers for us and others, searching of the Scriptures, knowledge won't save us but these knowledge as long as we are led by the Spirit to hold on to Jesus in the "Most Holy Place" having forgiven every sin and be ready to meet Him. Spirit of Prophecy is an excellent pointer to the deep searching of the Scriptures. God bless you!
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Make sure that you add 1 to your answer because there is no year zero. Time in years went from 1 BC to 1 AD. 2300 - 1844 = 456 + 1 = 457 BC. Also, prophecy uses time prophetically: 1 day = 1 year. So it's 2300 years, not 2300 days. Yes, GOD, the Holy Spirit is not a man that He should lie. GOD cannot lie. Hope this helps your understanding. 🙏🏾
Ellen White has been of immense blessing to my life. Even now, as a participant in Baha’i Community, her words energize my daily life. Mrs. White wrote: “We are all woven together in the great web of humanity, and whatever we can do to benefit and uplift others will reflect in blessing upon ourselves.” Thanks, professor Merlin & all Adventists, for keeping alive the wonderful message of Ellen White & William Miller.
We praise God that you are blessed by the writing of Ellen White. If I may ask you, why are you a participant of the Baha'i community? Please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would love to talk to you about it.
@@danmoen755 , google the closest 7th Day Adventist church near you and Pray that they teach "the Old 7th Day Beliefs , it they don't Run and find one that does , like Walter Veith on youtube
Jesus's body was dead on the sabbath..death is a total rest..He wanted the world to die to sabbath keeping..& to keep His resurrection in their resurrection to new life..thru His blood..into everlasting & eternal life..with Him dwelling in our hearts as Lord & Saviour forever..once a person becomes a Christian, he will always be a Christian..hemay normt always think & act like a Christian.. but he will always be a Christian ..the relationship is unbreakable & irrevocable & unconditional..so he can backslide into heaven..like Aninias & Sapphira..but not into hell..there is a sin unto physical death for a Christian..shortening his life..to keep him from going to hell.. this is the doctrine of Baptist churches..any church or any person can believe that..any Lost person can pray asking Christ to come into his heart & to bring his dead spirit to life & to cleanse it past & present & future..so that He can dwell there as their Saviour & Lord..on the throne in their heart.."He that hath begun a good work in you shall perform it unto the day of redemption".."He is the author & finisher of our faith".."whatever God does, He does forever".."we are kept by His power".."when you drink of this water, you will never thirst again"
This is such a great presentation ! Finally it has sounded clearly where the Adventist doctrine comes from and moreover it is backed by sound and thorough historical studies. Thank you for this dr. Merlin Burt
You are correct..in order for a lost person to be saved..he needs to pray asking Christ to come into his heart..& to bring his dead spirit to life..with His perfect blood. & to cleanse him of his sins in his past & present & future..all in one moment..asking for Christ to come into his heart forever to stay.. setting up an eternal & unbreakable relationship with him..reinging upon the themrone of his heart forever as his Saviour & Lord..salvation is a gift..the gift comes after a sinner prays asking for salvation.
The “Happy Sabbath” thing is becoming meaningless and robotic through over-use over many decades. A much better greeting among SDAs each Sabbath would be “Jesus Saves!”
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv pray that God will deliver these poor folks out of satanic grip. Only God can OPEN their eyes to the truth of the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation
I know that Adventist would never admit this, but it seems to me that in Adventism (besides the few who come as believers from other churches, probably "convicted" about the Sabbath) the order of knowledge is Ellen White --> the Bible --> Jesus. So logically, you are viewing the Bible and Jesus through the lens of Ellen White visions. Very similar what the Catholics have in visions of their saints and Mary and so on. Very disturbing.
Hi Friend, No, we don't see the Bible or Jesus through Ellen White. We would never admit that we do because that is not true. There may be some here and there who might have such a view, which is wrong; that is not something that we teach. Take a look at all of our fundamental doctrines; you will see that all of them come directly from the Bible. Here is the link:www.adventist.org/beliefs/ If you have any other thoughts or would like to discuss more, please do email us at info@hopelives365.com, and we would be glad to talk to you about it.
@@HL365 Hello to you too, friend. A simple question - why is Jesus doing the work in heaven, as you say - investigated judgment, according to the law and levitical priesthood when Hebrew 7,8,9,10 says that He - is a priest according to the Melchisedek so therefore the law neccesary needed to be changed (7:18,19,28) and He entered into the Heaven itself which is said that is earthly Holy of Holies (9:12,24; 10:12)?
@KrscaninHR, you are100 % CORRECT. SDAs are in denial. There are issues with the writings of Ellen White and they know it but ignore and deny it all. DISHONESTY, DISINGENUOUS, UNTRUTHFUL. There's a greater disappointment coming for SDAs. Watch, wait and see. I'm not wishing for it, but unless we tell the full truth about Ellen White, the full truth that has been hidden away from many of its members for over 100 years, the inconvenient and uncomfortable truth, that greater disappointment is inevitable. Oh God, help our people to be honest and truthful about Ellen White, and look to Christ ALONE, who is able to save to the uttermost. 🙏
Thankyou for taking this profession of history and so applying it so that those without such Christian heritage can begin to appreciate the gift which Millerites, Ellen White Harmon and company have become to me and truth seekers all over the world.
@@HL365 I'll definitely make sure to visit back every week to see what's new. It's great to know that there will always be fresh content to look forward to. Keep up the good work!😇
I’m a Adventists for the past 2 years. Was baptized, go to Bible studies. I don’t believe their beliefs. Where in scripture does it say the seal is the Sabbath? The seal is obviously the Holy Spirit. And they believe that Michael the archangel is Jesus
Am so inspired and assured of and about Ellen White. This session should be done to all SDA congregation all over the world by you because your passion is too obvious.
“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.” Hebrews 1:1-2 NIV
Bless the name of the LORD for inspired HIS people through them we're so bless today let's pray for each other that OUR LORD can use us also to be HIS messengers GOD bless you pass .one day soon we'll spending the sabbath with the LORD
Happy Sabbath. This is comforting. I have seen alot of false accusations against EGW...even she was labeled false prophet...but this presentation was inspiring to me as a convert to Seventh Day Adventist church. Praise God for EGW and Adventist church.
Just read the Book "Steps to Christ" There is a wonderful principle in that book that draws you in, i have given bible studies based on that and many have come to Christ and been baptized!
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv my dear I sat down to read the scripture for years till God show me his salvation…..how I wish you could show me scriptures your salvation is based on and I will be delighted that you saved my soul……..NEVER SAY TO SOMEONE THAT DEVIL IS IN YOUR HEART!, HOW CAN YOU SAVE ME LIKE THIS..AND REMEMBER WHAT JESUS SAID
If we are people of the book, and Ellen White always pointed people to the book, and we believe in the principle of Sola Scriptura, then why do we need Ellen White and continue to quote her? Shouldn't the Bible be all we need?
Why do you listen to sermons since you have your Bible? If you know and believe that listening to good and godly sermons is right then reading and quoting Ellen books is also similar to listening to sermons. And as long as her writings is not against the scripture then why should we despise and her writings so much. I have come to realize that many in the SDA church hate to hear anything about Ellen white simply because her writings are rebuke to their lives, those who hate ELLEN WHITE writings are the enemy of the church and are not ready to change their attitude base on her writings and warnings. Just as the pharisees saw Jesus as a threat to them so also many in the church today are the descendants of the pharisees, they hate the sayings and writings of ELLEN WHITE, her writings are simply threat to their ungodly lives.
Even Sis White (as she was called back then) herself encouraged others to first go to the scriptures... not her testimonies. She was a messenger of God pointing all to the scriptures- God's word.
Happy Happy Happy Sabbath day's rest to you all. How blessed we are as 7th Day Adventist believers to be alive during these sobering times we are living in today.
Yes, she did but since the Bible states that if you really want to have any gift, the gift of prophecy is the best one to chose so God decided to give to Seventhdayv adventists.
She also said " read the books that explain the scriptures " , I think it was a nice way she was trying to say to read my books and maybe some of the pioneers books@@lettyalvarado8181
That is not true. Prophets when they have visions do experience certain supernatural phenomenon. You can read about it in Daniel 10. If you have further questions, please email us at info@hopelives365.com
Amen...a very appropriate title to your sermon. And yet, how is it that our present church proclaims a gospel other than that which EGW and the pioneers of our church first established? Why is it that our present fundamental beliefs starkly differ to that which was originally validated by the very Spirit of God, and thereby recorded? The 1872 fundamental principles conflict with that which is documented in our 1980 beliefs. How did this come to be?
@@HL365 You say 'concerns with evidence'. Is not the very evidence contained and self-evident in the 1872 fundamental principles? It is all there in 'detail'. Should not all SDA members be 'concerned' that our church has wandered away from the pillars of our pioneers?
The 28 Fundamental Beliefs have 3 God's, look at 3-5. The Bible portrays one (1) God - James 2:19 etc. The White Estate will give you the run around. The Bible says to "ask for the old paths..but they (SDA Church) said "we will not walk therein." Jeremiah 6:16. YES the 1872 Fundamental Principles should be still used!!!
@@howardloewen1834 Thankyou for chiming in. I do see that we are on the same page on this. Recently there are more church members that are awakening to the truth of our God. It is far more than a shame to find that our denomination has buried the old truth. They have venerated 'another god'. Our heavenly Father is calling his remnant. HIS OWN Spirit is poking and prodding the spirit of man.
"God is love" is neither the first words or the last words in the completely trustworthy Volumes 1-4 of Spirit of Prophecy, the hardbacks of which I have and read daily. However, I also read the 5 Volume Conflict of the Ages series.
William Miller stated in one of his written messages after the Great Disappointment. He said [paraphrasing]: "I only taught that from the Vernal Equinox of 1843 to the Vernal Equinox of 1844 that Jesus would return during that year. I never set a date. The people started setting those dates." Also there is an early statement from EGW saying the Lord showed her that 1843 is the only correct date given on Wm. Miller's [original] Chart. You can do a search for his original chart, showing only "1843". People do understand the early advent movement unless you read what William Miller wrote and actually taught.
Christ is our Sabbath rest. He instructed to come to Him to find rest. He is the Lord of the Sabbath rest. Paul tried to emphasize this as believers argued over days to worship. It was the Jews major flaw in dealing with scripture, making it legalistic and physical. Christ is our Sabbath rest, which makes every day holy and sacred.
Every day is holy because God made them. One can conclude that everything that God made is holy. Guess what, God made us, like all the days. Are we all holy? We sin. Don't we? The difference between all the days that god made, which are holy, is that he sanctified one of them. Guess which one he sanctified (and therefore, set apart)?
Did E. White not have access the New Testement? How could she/they predict the arrival of Jesus Christ in 1844 when according to Scripture, no man knows the day nor the hour, not even Jesus Christ? I would greatly appreciate some insight/answers. Thank you.
@@JustAMessengero7g that is why I stated "they" . Some either before or after her were rooted in the Great Disappointment of 1844. That is the clarification I'm seeking.
@@ladyempire5921 The prediction of the second coming in 1844 was made by William miller. He started preaching it in the 1830s. Ellen white and others heard him preach it at some point and joined his movement. Why William miller did not take “no one knows the day or hour” into account, I do not know.
@@JustAMessengero7g thank you. I just don't understand how or why some SDA take her word (EGW) above Gods when she was a part of a movement that did not take the scriptures into account on some occasions. The way she is "lifted" up is sometimes a hindrance to the true work of the gospel.
@@ladyempire5921 When William miller was preaching the second coming, ellen white was not getting visions yet. She did not start having them until after the great disappointment. And one thing that she taught after that was that “no one knows the day nor hour”. She was very adamant that predictions about the second coming were not allowed. So she would agree with you that “no one knows the day nor hour”. Her writings follow the Bible very well. We do not hold her writings above the Bible, not even she did. She made it clear that her writings were not meant to replace the Bible. Some may have put her writings above the Bible, but I have not met any that do this and I have been an Adventist for over 20 years.
Where can I find the presentation on the Sabbath that was referenced? The presenter said that the Sabbath was presented in the context of righteousness by faith. Is that online?
Why are her writings now has become an endless confusion, discussions,arguments,and debates among sda's? Are we to exalt her writings when sharing the truth from the word of God? Can not God Himself explains the truth from His written word for a sincere believing Christian who is honestly seeking for truth? James 1:5 says- If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God. 2nd Corinthians 2:5-says- That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God! The Bible says - That we need to search and study the word of God like the bereans did!
The confusion is not in her writings, it is with those who take it out of context and use it. If you have further questions, please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we'd be glad to talk to you about it.
No, I didn't miss that point. But my question is: Why Ellen G. White's works are important to understand to understand the Word of God? If she were a woman of God( God knows better) what about other men of God? Now is it that we need to know about all other men of God ( not mentioned in the Bible) and then we should advance to study the Word of God? Is it biblical? Are you appointed by God to tell your audience all this - preaching Ellen White? Answer me after visiting God.
@@JamieElison Who are you talking about? If you are referring to who uploaded the video, just email them. They even mentioned that option in this thread.
@@JamieElison Earlier you mentioned what a true Christian would do. Well desiring to debate someone openly just so you can show them up is not the way a Christian goes about things. So if you consider yourself a Christian, you are not acting like one.
Revelation 14:6-12, with its description of the messages of the three angels, stands at the very heart of Seventh-day Adventist identity as Ellen White saw it. She held from the beginning of her ministry to its end nearly 71 years later that God had especially commissioned Adventism to preach the message of the third angel. EWIT 120.3 Catch the sense of mission in her words: “In a special sense Seventh-day Adventists have been set in the world as watchmen and light bearers. To them has been entrusted the last warning for a perishing world.... They have been given a work of the most solemn import-the proclamation of the first, second, and third angels’ messages. There is no other work of so great importance. They are to allow nothing else to absorb their attention. EWIT 120.4 “The most solemn truths ever entrusted to mortals have been given to us to proclaim to the world. The proclamation of these truths is to be our work. The world is to be warned, and God’s people are to be true to the trust committed to them.”-Testimonies for the Church 9:19 EWIT 120.5 Like the other Seventh-day Adventist leaders, Ellen White viewed the three angels’ messages as a “perfect chain of truth” (Early Writings, 256) that extended from the 1840s to the end of time. The first message (the hour of the arrival of God’s judgment), they concluded, had been initiated by the preaching of William Miller in the 1830s and 1840s, while the second (the fall of Babylon) began to be preached in 1843
we say her writings direct us to scriptures but the church often directs us to her writings, I think this is issue, especially for younger generations. After her, was there no one else who had insight which also contributed to the church? Also I have wondered so much about the investigative judgment and its Biblical basis. Our salvation through Jesus sacrifice for us isn’t that complete? thanks for any insight
The investigative judgement has its biblical foundation several ways: 1) revelation 22:12 Jesus said He is coming with rewards. That means who gets what reward has already been determined. Which then means this was “investigated” before He returns. 2) check out anytime God pronounced judgment on anyone (Adam/eve, Sodom and Gomorrah, the flood, babel, etc). There are many examples of an investigation being done prior to judgment in the Bible. 3) Daniel shows books being opened before the second coming (Daniel 7:10)
EGW's writings, or original books more specifically, have been changed by re-editing and now have become the focus of SDA members to keep reading in place of the greater light, aka, the Authorized Bible, aka, the KJV. God did not give anyone the authorization to change or mess with the words of his prophets, including his prophets.
The Great Conspiracy. GREAT DECEPTIONS. God will unmask and reveal the real truth behind all this. Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy..... 1Timothy 4:1-2.
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. Revelation 21:22 ellen g white had a vision of the New Jerusalem with a temple, and noone in "heaven" could go into it except for the 144000 elect... Thats just one of many examples of her words filtering out true followers of Jesus.. don't follow her words.. follow Jesus
My problem with E.G.White is that she claims that Moses was resurrected to "immortal life". This is not found in Scripture. In fact it contradicts the word of God.
@@JustAMessengero7g Thank you for your question. The Holy Bible claims that only God is immortal. Jesus stated that no man has gone to heaven. The account of Moses on the mount of transfiguration was a VISION. There is not a single verse in all the Scriptures that Moses was raised from the dead to immortal life. In Hebrews 11 it is clear that nobody has yet received the promise. Not a single person has gone to heaven. On this the Bible is clear.
@@jeanleroux6915 Then what is going on in Jude 1:9? Why would the archangel contend with Satan over the body of Moses if he wasn’t going to be resurrected? There would not be a discussion about it. But Jude shows that there was a contention. And where is Enoch and Elijah? Enoch was taken by God (genesis 5) and Elijah was taken into heaven (2 kings 2:11). I understand what Jesus said in John 3:13 but Elijah and Enoch contradict what you believe Jesus meant. And since the Bible doesn’t contradict itself, Jesus may have meant something else. Perhaps when He said “no man has ascended to heaven” that He meant no man on earth has gone into heaven on their own. Cuz it is obvious that Elijah and Enoch are there but they did not fly up there on their own, they were taken. This shows that there is no issue with Moses being in heaven as long as God is the one who got him there.
@@JustAMessengero7g Thank you. There is no place for "Jesus MAY have meant something else", or "PERHAPS when He said “no man has ascended to heaven” that He meant no man on earth has gone into heaven on their own" The Bible is clear. Here is what the Bible has to say. Thus sayeth the Lord Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. Jude 1.9 makes no mention of the resurrection of Moses Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. Luke 9. 28-36 is revealed as a VISION Mat 17:9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the VISION to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. (The word vision, (Horama, in Greek, is found 12 times in the New Testament, and in each case it represents a supernatural vision) The account of Elijah in 2 Kings 2 does not state that Elijah was taken to the abode of God. He was lifted by a whirlwind into the sky, and we read that people went to look for him on earth. 2Ki 2:16 And they said unto him, Behold now, there be with thy servants fifty strong men; let them go, we pray thee, and seek thy master: lest peradventure the Spirit of the LORD hath taken him up, and cast him upon some mountain, or into some valley. And he said, Ye shall not send. 2Ki 2:17 And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send. They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not. Further to this we have confirmation that Elijah was still alive on earth. Here we read that some six to eight years after this account that Elijah sent a letter to king Jehoram 2Ch 21:12 And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah, Matthew 27. 45-56 makes no mention of those raised being in heaven. Genesis 5. 22-24 says that Enoch died (ALL his days was 365 years, and he was TAKEN.) Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not;H369 for God took him. Here is the dictionary definition for “was not” (H369) H369 אין 'ayin ay'-yin As if from a primitive root meaning to be nothing or not exist; a non-entity; generally used as a negative particle: - else, except, fail [father-] less, be gone, in [-curable], neither, never, no (where), none, nor (any, thing), not, nothing, to nought, past, un [-searchable], well-nigh, without, Compare H370. Hebrews 11 Please read Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. Jesus clearly stated that no man has ascended to heaven. I believe Him. The Scriptural evidence given is clear. I am interested to know for what reason Enoch was taken to heaven. Please let me know if Jesus was in error on this subject , or did He not know that Enoch, Elijah and Moses were in heaven? I look forward to hearing from you on this. Thank you
@@jeanleroux6915 Hello Jean, I just want to tell you that I see that you have done an in-depth study on this subject. Your reading of the Scriptures is correct and spot on. Obviously you cannot be fooled by the false teachings based on E.G White writings, being dished up by the SDA Church. Well done! Here is a note that I sent to @JustA Messenger who seems to be unable to refute or even reply to your post. I sincerely do not think you will get a truthful reply from the church on this matter. Messenger 1 1 second ago @JustA Messenger "Our beliefs are based on th Bible and not what Ellen white wrote". I am astounded that you can make this comment. I have read the thread between Jean le Roux and yourself regarding the "resurrection of Moses" with Elijah, and Enoch being in heaven Jean le Roux gave you the correct Biblical readings and proves without any doubt that the SDA church has set aside the Holy Bible to accept the White Gospels as truth on this matter. Jean le Roux has given texts to prove that your belief rejects the clear Word of God, in favour of White and attempts to massage the Bible to fit White's writings. For example, amongst other points raised, how can Moses be raised to immortal life when the Bible states that only God has immortality? I will be waiting and watching to see your reply to Jean le Roux. You will be able to give an answer, will you? I doubt you can, somehow, but I hope I am wrong.
Unfortunately you cant have a prophet that changes her own preaching under inspiration. Her own son Willy White and Uriah Smith + others affirmed her amalgamation statement to be about MAN+BEAST. Its racism under inspiration and its irrefutable. You are free to read the 1982 Spectrum article on this. Even her critics accused her of racism toward black people in her days. They had proof thats the case
@@HL365 a lot of SDA including you repeat these bogus arguments that came 67 years aftet her comment. Do you get that i specifically quoted her Son and Uriah and her editor that tells you she didnt meant Intermarriage? I have seen your link and all SDA apologists. They cant deal with my specific quotes rather repeat generic false excuses. Read the whole spectrum article 1982 that narrates the entire debate on this. Its indefensible racism. Nobody of the pioneers understood her to mean intermarriage.
@@HL365 George McCready Price wrote in the April 1931 issue of The Ministry, that he would like to make a slight alteration in Ellen G. White's statements. "Since the flood there has been an amalgamation of man and (of) beast, as may be seen in almost endless varieties of species of animal, and in certain races of men." -"The Problem of Hybridization" The Ministry April 1931, p. 13. D. E. Robinson for many years Ellen G. White's personal secretary took issue with Price: In a paper titled "Amalgamation Versus Evolution" said that Price's insertion of the word "of" into Ellen White's statements did violence to the "obvious meaning " that the author herself intended." -Spectrum, June 12, 1982, p.14. Dr. Harold Clark a biologist tells the truth "Clark called attention to his work with Ellen White's son, W. C. White and D. E. Robinson, her secretary. Neither of these men ever doubted that Ellen White meant the crossing of man and beast by the phrase "amalgamation of man and beast." -Spectrum, June 12, 1982, p.11. Sry forgot to quote
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@@JamieElison On a number line there is a 0, so the math works out to be 1843, no issues. But we are not counting on a number line, we are counting on a timeline. On a timeline THERE IS NO YEAR ZERO. The years at that point go 2bc, 1bc, 1ad, 2ad and so on. So on a timeline 457bc plus 2300 years comes out to 1844ad.
@@JamieElison Here is how this works: 457bc is the starting point. The final year BC is the year 1BC. Year 457bc to year 1BC is 456 years. There is no year zero, so year 1BC is followed by year 1AD. Like dates in these two years are separated by 1 year. So far we have 456 + 1 is 457 years counted. We have 1843 years left to count. Now picking up at year 1AD, we move forward the remaining 1843 years. 1 + 1843 = 1844. I can’t demonstrate it any clearer than that.
How are these paintings not a transgression of 10 commandments. I am not here to argue, I am trying to wrap my head around Ellen white, I have accepted the Sabbath of God, I don't know what to do with that yet. I also caught young men would have visions, why would scripture say this and then it be a young woman.
Doing anything God requires is a test of faith. For example, the sabbath. It takes a good amount of faith to reject a high paying job that requires work on the sabbath. I was unemployed for a year after I retired from the military because everyone I interviewed with wanted me to work on sabbath. I finally got a job that did not require work on sabbath. God got us through the time of unemployment until He opened up an opportunity for me. So keeping the sabbath is a test of faith.
@justamessenger4577 keeping the Saturday sabbath is the sign of being in a non-christian cult..to be saved our faith needs to rest in the new testament resurrection of Christ..his body was dead in the grave on Saturday..nothing was done on Saturday.. nothing can save no one..to be saved, there has to be the resurrection of Christ & the new life in Christ involved.
@@charlesmargolin6832 It is clear you do not know what SDA believe. Let me make this clear. We don’t keep the sabbath to be saved, this is a very common misconception that is not unique to you. We are saved by the grace of God, that is one of our foundational beliefs. We keep the sabbath because we are saved and becasue we love Jesus. And as you said, we hold to the promise of the resurrection because Jesus was resurrected. No SDA would disagree with you. Now that you know what SDA believe in this area, do you still think we are a cult? Especially since when it comes to being saved, we believe the same thing you do? And Jesus being in the grave on sabbath and “nothing happening” on the sabbath does not change anything.
@@JustAMessengero7g IF U DONT KEEP THE SABBATH TO BE SAVED WHY IS OBSERVANCE OF THE CEREMONIAL 7TH DAY SABBATH THE SEAL OF GOD? THE ENTRY MARKER INTO HEAVEN? IF U DONT SEE THE CONTRADICTIONS UR CLEARLY INDOCTRINATED
I'm not a member of the SDA. Read through Lev 11 , Acts 15 :21 , Eph 2 :12 , Matt 9;16-19 , John 14:15, 1John 5:2-3 , Romans 13:9 , Deut 2:28. I can list more scripture for you if needed. Have you ever heard the expression you are what you eat ? Do you realize the animals that roll around in or eat their own excrement literally carry parasites and bacterium ? Have you ever heard that approximately 90% or more of all disease known to man is related to gut health ? I'm looking into these topics since, if nothing else, it's logical and biblical. A neighbor just gave me some of Ellen Whites writings. Very interesting, so far.
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@@HL365 It is Folkenberg, look closer. I had that picture until I noticed that and threw it away. If you think the SDA church is being led by Jesus you are mistaken. "The church has turned back from following Christ her leader and is steadily retreating toward Egypt." 5T 217 "The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not in her midst." LDE 49
This is SO helpful to me. I have had to answer people around me who despise EGW and call her a false prophet. This presentation with its many clarifications is refreshing. Such a blessing to my battered soul after dealing with doubters of her ministry from within the church and from without.
I will say this, Follow God, and no man! That's why people are calling her a false prophet. They speak more about her than Jesus!
@@brownfeather865 that’s what Ellen white said as well, follow God and not man. How does people making the mistake of putting EGW first make her a false prophet?
@JustA Messenger If you can't figure it out yourself, then you are certainly lost! See, you said that's what she said! I'm telling you what God said....
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Whether I can figure out what you mean or not does not determine whether I am lost or not. Lol.
Yes, her saying it means she followed the same principle you stated, follow God and not man. So she would agree with you that’s what the Bible teaches.
But your reason for saying she is a false prophet makes no sense. People who mistakenly hold her writings over the Bible does not mean she is false, it means that those people are wrong, not her. Whether a prophet is true or false is defined by Isaiah 8:20, not by the actions of some of her followers.
Ellen white taught that the Bible is above everything, including her wrotings. A false prophet would not say this. So please explain how peolle mistakenly putting her words above the Bible makes her a false prophet.
Out of curiousity, have you ever read her books?
@@chrislucastheprotestantview I have heard of this explanation before. Unfortunately it is incorrect.
Let me clarify some things.
1. It's a waste of time discussing the actual month or day the day of Atonement falls on. SDA do not celebrate the day of Atonement. The term is used as a spiritual application only. No one in 1844 was looking for an actual day of Atonement; therefore, trying to explain things in a literal sense is a waste of time.
2. The Scriptures whether in English or Hebrew says 2300 evenings and mornings (or evenings mornings). The Scriptures absolutely do not say 1150 evenings and mornings. Each would no longer be a day. Imagine if in Genesis 1 God created the world in 3 days if we take your reasoning further. That's how silly it is to say the same about 2300 evenings and mornings. Read different Bible versions from varied scholarly commentators; they all typically have "days" or "evenings and mornings" (which is saying ABSOLUTELY the same thing). The Scriptures do not cut the timeline in half. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason AT ALL to do this other than to use it as a THEORY sense other means don't work for those trying to get Antiochus to fulfill it.
3. The word "sacrifices" is not in the Hebrew or originals. Bible translators supplied it to the phrase "daily" BUT it is not in the originals. The "daily", as a result, is referring to other matters than simply sacrifices and has greater spiritual application because the little horn would last till the TIME OF THE END. THE VISION IS FOR THE TIME OF THE END, according to the angel speaking with Daniel; THEREFORE, it is also clear that Antiochus Epiphanes is not the little horn. FURTHERMORE, Jesus referred to the prophecy. How can Antiochus be the fulfillment if Jesus referred to the same prophecy? And FURTHERMORE, how can the little horn antichrist be the fulfillment if Paul himself reminded the church that the prophecy was YET to be fulfilled in the person of the Papacy in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12?
So, lots of homework there.
I truly loved this presentation. We should receive all these Testimonies from Jesus given to us in love, we all our hearts. All true Seventh-day-Adventists will believe and preach these 7 doctrines; Salvation, Scripture, Second coming, State of the dead, Spirit of prophecy, Sabbath, Sanctuary.
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@@JamieElison lf it hurts us to hear the lies --- how much God is NOT glorified
@@JamieElison l think I was agreeing with you that sda preached lies. It breaks God's heart 😒
Dotin ballaban --- for the eternal good of your soul ask the Lord Jesus Christ to show you the wonderful finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. IT IS FINISHED!!
God will NOT accept any other WAY
State of the dead : don't tell people who've been dead temporarily, that they'll just go into sleep til Jesus returns, cuz they've seen what Paul saw, that to be absent from the body is to be Present with The Lord. They say it's more real than here. They/ we will return with Christ, in glorified bodies, and a new earth and heaven. Also, without wanting to hear it, the Lord had me hear the accounts of people who were in hell and came back to grasp hold of Jesus. Hell is very real and very horrible, though it's not nice to know of it. God doesn't want any one to end up there, yet people who wouldn't receive Jesus as Savior and Life are there. It's terrible. Don't risk going there. Don't risk believing a person's take on the Bible. Let the Real Jesus show you what you need to know out of it.
Thank you so much. I now have a better understanding of the MEANING OF TESTIMONY OF JESUS. Thd ministry of the Holy Spirit is absolutely amazing.
In my own experience of reading Mrs. White writing is just like what has been said here. I read STEP TO CHRIST just to improve my English, then the Holy Spirit lovingly and amazingly brought me to JESUS and the Bible. I learn to understand the Bible through Mrs. White writing in my early stage of conversion. Now I see the beautiful truth of the word of God and can't afford to miss my daily Scripture reading. I am absolutely convinced Mrs. White role as appointed by God no matter what others negative opinions are.
I have read through most of the "Spirit Of Prophecy" writings, If you read Daniel and Revelation in one sitting you see a flow of events that took place till He (Jesus) appeared the first time and Revelation takes us through the seven churches and Ellen was part of the "Philadelphia" Church experience then she writes much on the last days (Church of Laodicea) the lukewarmness of the current SDA congregational churches all throughout the world. We have been given much and much will be asked of us on the day of God? Even though she had partly third grade education, how God helped her to write it and its all inspired. "God Breathed" when you read the Bible God gives us understanding. I don't think many Adventists understand what it means to loose salvation if we stay lukewarm possessed with earthly treasures, all of us can see how the heathen nations rage and shocking floods, fires, earthquakes in diverse places (Matt 24), as long as apostasy goes on in America, America will loose everything they worked hard for? God is visiting every nation in Judgement now, for we are living in the hour of His judgement! The apostate churches preach the false gospels and their knowledge on the prophecies are all over the place and deceiving billions! because they have missed the Mark on Christ's ministry in the heavenly Sanctuary since He ascended on High and sat on the right hand of the heavenly Father. One must understand the first angel's message and look at the Commandments of God in Exodus 20: 1-17 then we will understand the second and the third angels' messages. When the latter rain is falling all around us we might miss it because of lack of Spirit and Prayers for us and others, searching of the Scriptures, knowledge won't save us but these knowledge as long as we are led by the Spirit to hold on to Jesus in the "Most Holy Place" having forgiven every sin and be ready to meet Him. Spirit of Prophecy is an excellent pointer to the deep searching of the Scriptures. God bless you!
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@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Make sure that you add 1 to your answer because there is no year zero. Time in years went from 1 BC to 1 AD. 2300 - 1844 = 456 + 1 = 457 BC. Also, prophecy uses time prophetically: 1 day = 1 year. So it's 2300 years, not 2300 days. Yes, GOD, the Holy Spirit is not a man that He should lie. GOD cannot lie. Hope this helps your understanding. 🙏🏾
Saying that is not a proof.
Ellen White has been of immense blessing to my life. Even now, as a participant in Baha’i Community, her words energize my daily life. Mrs. White wrote: “We are all woven together in the great web of humanity, and whatever we can do to benefit and uplift others will reflect in blessing upon ourselves.” Thanks, professor Merlin & all Adventists, for keeping alive the wonderful message of Ellen White & William Miller.
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Happy sabbath ☺ to all sabbath keepers around the world 🌎.
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Is there a sabbath keeper anywhere and how? Hopefully but how?
Oh agree be happy on the sabbath😮😊
Where are you in this world? I'm in Colorado.
@@danmoen755 , google the closest 7th Day Adventist church near you and Pray that they teach "the Old 7th Day Beliefs , it they don't Run and find one that does , like Walter Veith on youtube
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Yes there are sabbath keepers. I am one.
Jesus's body was dead on the sabbath..death is a total rest..He wanted the world to die to sabbath keeping..& to keep His resurrection in their resurrection to new life..thru His blood..into everlasting & eternal life..with Him dwelling in our hearts as Lord & Saviour
forever..once a person becomes a Christian,
he will always be a Christian..hemay normt always think & act like a Christian..
but he will always be a Christian ..the relationship is unbreakable & irrevocable & unconditional..so he can backslide into heaven..like Aninias & Sapphira..but not into hell..there is a sin unto physical death for a Christian..shortening his life..to keep him from going to hell..
this is the doctrine of Baptist churches..any church or any person can believe that..any
Lost person can pray asking Christ to come into his heart & to bring his dead spirit to life & to cleanse it past & present & future..so that He can dwell there
as their Saviour & Lord..on the throne in their heart.."He that hath begun a good work in you shall perform it unto the day of redemption".."He is the author & finisher of our faith".."whatever God does, He does forever".."we are kept by His power".."when you drink of this water, you will never thirst again"
Happy Sabbath to all my brothers and sisters out there. Be Blessed🙏🙏
This is such a great presentation ! Finally it has sounded clearly where the Adventist doctrine comes from and moreover it is backed by sound and thorough historical studies. Thank you for this dr. Merlin Burt
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I read through the bible with her books once, was a new convert, I need to do it again. Happy Sabbath
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Awesome message. Thanks for sharing. God bless your ministry
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Happy Sabbath from the East.🙏❤️✝️🌹
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Not even Jesus knows the time of his coming so drop these prophecies by anyone be it EG White
Lord Jesus finished His work on the cross, His death burial, and resurrection, no other work is required.
You are correct..in order for a lost person to be saved..he needs to pray asking Christ to come into his heart..& to bring his dead spirit to life..with His perfect blood. & to cleanse him of his sins
in his past & present & future..all in one moment..asking for Christ to come into his heart forever to stay..
setting up an eternal & unbreakable relationship with him..reinging upon the themrone of his heart forever as his Saviour & Lord..salvation is a gift..the gift comes after a sinner prays
asking for salvation.
Amen !!! Investigative Judgement was a poor excuse for the 1844 debacle - It IS finished ! Amen
Who's working? when God writes somthing on your heart you would have to work hard not to to move forward accordingly.
Happy Sabbath brethren. 🙏
Happy Sabbath and God's richest blessings from Jamaica 🇯🇲
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The “Happy Sabbath” thing is becoming meaningless and robotic through over-use over many decades. A much better greeting among SDAs each Sabbath would be “Jesus Saves!”
Excellent talk. Always interested in our Adventist heritage
Very good!
Thank you so much for this presentation - what a blessing!❤
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@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv pray that God will deliver these poor folks out of satanic grip. Only God can OPEN their eyes to the truth of the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation
@@HL365 please Sir --- you WILL regret misleading these poor souls in eternity. Teachers will be judged more harshly
@@JamieElison that shows God is seeking to convict him
Wonderful study! Enjoyed it so much! Thank you!
Praise God for His Love, His Mercy, and His Grace!
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@@MaryMartinez-lm5tvMary what’s salvation???
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv I hate stories and that’s why I’m an SDA, can you send me scriptures????…how can I understand this
I know that Adventist would never admit this, but it seems to me that in Adventism (besides the few who come as believers from other churches, probably "convicted" about the Sabbath) the order of knowledge is Ellen White --> the Bible --> Jesus. So logically, you are viewing the Bible and Jesus through the lens of Ellen White visions. Very similar what the Catholics have in visions of their saints and Mary and so on. Very disturbing.
Hi Friend, No, we don't see the Bible or Jesus through Ellen White. We would never admit that we do because that is not true. There may be some here and there who might have such a view, which is wrong; that is not something that we teach. Take a look at all of our fundamental doctrines; you will see that all of them come directly from the Bible.
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@@HL365 Hello to you too, friend. A simple question - why is Jesus doing the work in heaven, as you say - investigated judgment, according to the law and levitical priesthood when Hebrew 7,8,9,10 says that He - is a priest according to the Melchisedek so therefore the law neccesary needed to be changed (7:18,19,28) and He entered into the Heaven itself which is said that is earthly Holy of Holies (9:12,24; 10:12)?
@KrscaninHR, you are100 % CORRECT. SDAs are in denial. There are issues with the writings of Ellen White and they know it but ignore and deny it all. DISHONESTY, DISINGENUOUS, UNTRUTHFUL. There's a greater disappointment coming for SDAs. Watch, wait and see. I'm not wishing for it, but unless we tell the full truth about Ellen White, the full truth that has been hidden away from many of its members for over 100 years, the inconvenient and uncomfortable truth, that greater disappointment is inevitable. Oh God, help our people to be honest and truthful about Ellen White, and look to Christ ALONE, who is able to save to the uttermost. 🙏
If that's the case, so the same goes for Protestants who see the Bible through the lens of Luther, Calvin, etc
I disagree. I’m 45 years old and grew up in the church and I’m just starting to dig into her writings.
Thankyou for taking this profession of history and so applying it so that those without such Christian heritage can
begin to appreciate the gift which Millerites, Ellen White Harmon and company have become to me and truth seekers all over the world.
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Happy Sabbath to us all ❤❤❤
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It is only today I was able to find this channel. Thank you for this presentation. It is worth watching. God bless!❤
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@@HL365 I'll definitely make sure to visit back every week to see what's new. It's great to know that there will always be fresh content to look forward to. Keep up the good work!😇
Happy Sabbath from Rwanda! Be blessed, Remnant Church
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Brilliant exposition of the Entire Spirit of Prophecy for our time in relationship to Accepted Canonical Scripture!
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I’m a Adventists for the past 2 years. Was baptized, go to Bible studies. I don’t believe their beliefs. Where in scripture does it say the seal is the Sabbath? The seal is obviously the Holy Spirit. And they believe that Michael the archangel is Jesus
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@@HL365 why can’t you just let me know here. I’m sure there are some people feel the same way
Happy Sabbath 😍🙏🏻💕
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happy Sabbath, thank for sharing, every little bit help, keep it coming God bless 🙏 🙏🙏
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Am so inspired and assured of and about Ellen White.
This session should be done to all SDA congregation all over the world by you because your passion is too obvious.
Thank you for opening our understanding on the work of this servant of the Lord.
You’re welcome!
Mary, please take a listen to the presentation.
“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.”
Hebrews 1:1-2 NIV
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv exactly!!!!
Happy Sabbath from Zambia 🇿🇲
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Bless the name of the LORD for inspired HIS people through them we're so bless today let's pray for each other that OUR LORD can use us also to be HIS messengers GOD bless you pass .one day soon we'll spending the sabbath with the LORD
People of the BOOK... 🙏🙏🙏Amen!
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Sleeping people of the book in time we live in.
Happy Sabbath everyone blessing beautiful history.
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Blessed Sabbath everyone!
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Happy Sabbath. This is comforting. I have seen alot of false accusations against EGW...even she was labeled false prophet...but this presentation was inspiring to me as a convert to Seventh Day Adventist church. Praise God for EGW and Adventist church.
Blessed SABBATH EVERONE !!!
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@@JamieElisonI felt like a change
I love this even tho I didn't get to write all he say but I praise GOD for this study GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME
Just read the Book "Steps to Christ" There is a wonderful principle in that book that draws you in, i have given bible studies based on that and many have come to Christ and been baptized!
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Thank God for the eternal gift of prophecy
Which has illuminated our darkness with light eternal
Amen!
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tvwhy are you here with your “feelings”???!……can you help anyone with feelings 😢
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv my dear I sat down to read the scripture for years till God show me his salvation…..how I wish you could show me scriptures your salvation is based on and I will be delighted that you saved my soul……..NEVER SAY TO SOMEONE THAT DEVIL IS IN YOUR HEART!, HOW CAN YOU SAVE ME LIKE THIS..AND REMEMBER WHAT JESUS SAID
Happy Sabbath Saints of God ❤️💐🎁💕
Sabbath Blessings when it comes!
Excellent lesson
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If we are people of the book, and Ellen White always pointed people to the book, and we believe in the principle of Sola Scriptura, then why do we need Ellen White and continue to quote her? Shouldn't the Bible be all we need?
Why do you use different sources when researching? For greater clarity... deeper understanding. Her writings help to magnify God's Word.
Why do you listen to sermons since you have your Bible?
If you know and believe that listening to good and godly sermons is right then reading and quoting Ellen books is also similar to listening to sermons. And as long as her writings is not against the scripture then why should we despise and her writings so much.
I have come to realize that many in the SDA church hate to hear anything about Ellen white simply because her writings are rebuke to their lives, those who hate ELLEN WHITE writings are the enemy of the church and are not ready to change their attitude base on her writings and warnings.
Just as the pharisees saw Jesus as a threat to them so also many in the church today are the descendants of the pharisees, they hate the sayings and writings of ELLEN WHITE, her writings are simply threat to their ungodly lives.
Even Sis White (as she was called back then) herself encouraged others to first go to the scriptures... not her testimonies. She was a messenger of God pointing all to the scriptures- God's word.
@@adaramolabunmi4667exactly dear brother God bless you
@@ricardoleslie9811people want to live like Egyptians, I understand why people rebel against Moses and God in the desert
I am very suspicious of anyone that will not read from the King James Bible 🤔
Who are you referring to?
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Happy Sabbath from Indiana❤️
Thank you so much for all God's gifts from Ellen White. Thank you that I can receive this message
Happy Sabbath Pastor
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Happy Happy Happy Sabbath day's rest to you all.
How blessed we are as 7th Day Adventist believers to be alive during these sobering times we are living in today.
Hope you had good sabbath.
Sabbath blessings to everyone
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Grateful for the presentation, is there a way to have those charts in soft copies
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❤Happy Sabbath World
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Did she not say that if we read and studied our bibles like we should we wouldn't need the writings?
Yes, she did but since the Bible states that if you really want to have any gift, the gift of prophecy is the best one to chose so God decided to give to Seventhdayv adventists.
She also said " read the books that explain the scriptures " , I think it was a nice way she was trying to say to read my books and maybe some of the pioneers books@@lettyalvarado8181
One thing I know about prophecy if it's really from God there are no mistakes..Never
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Shabbat Shalom!!!
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Amen...a very appropriate title to your sermon.
And yet, how is it that our present church proclaims a gospel other than that which EGW and the pioneers of our church first established?
Why is it that our present fundamental beliefs starkly differ to that which was originally validated by the very Spirit of God, and thereby recorded?
The 1872 fundamental principles conflict with that which is documented in our 1980 beliefs.
How did this come to be?
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@@HL365 You say 'concerns with evidence'.
Is not the very evidence contained and self-evident in the 1872 fundamental principles?
It is all there in 'detail'.
Should not all SDA members be 'concerned' that our church has wandered away from the pillars of our pioneers?
The 28 Fundamental Beliefs have 3 God's, look at 3-5. The Bible portrays one (1) God - James 2:19 etc. The White Estate will give you the run around. The Bible says to "ask for the old paths..but they (SDA Church) said "we will not walk therein." Jeremiah 6:16. YES the 1872 Fundamental Principles should be still used!!!
@@howardloewen1834 Thankyou for chiming in.
I do see that we are on the same page on this. Recently there are more church members that are awakening to the truth of our God. It is far more than a shame to find that our denomination has buried the old truth. They have venerated 'another god'.
Our heavenly Father is calling his remnant. HIS OWN Spirit is poking and prodding the spirit of man.
"God is love" is neither the first words or the last words in the completely trustworthy Volumes 1-4 of Spirit of Prophecy, the hardbacks of which I have and read daily. However, I also read the 5 Volume Conflict of the Ages series.
God is love is the first and last phrase of the conflict of the ages series.
God bless you pastor
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Why Alen G. White is an urgent to be referred while you're talking about/ teaching the Word of God?
Sabbath greetings & blessings to you as well sister!
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It is so rich! We have a great treasure - a great trophy- let us not throw it away! Stand up stand up for Jesus. He is coming back very soon
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Prayer for wisdom🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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Hi I like your presentation of Ellen G .White .
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Wow
I’m so relieved.
Praise zehhh Lord🙌
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Happy that I left SDA.
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Happiness doesn't define right from wrong. I'm sorry to hear that.
William Miller stated in one of his written messages after the Great Disappointment. He said [paraphrasing]: "I only taught that from the Vernal Equinox of 1843 to the Vernal Equinox of 1844 that Jesus would return during that year. I never set a date. The people started setting those dates."
Also there is an early statement from EGW saying the Lord showed her that 1843 is the only correct date given on Wm. Miller's [original] Chart. You can do a search for his original chart, showing only "1843". People do understand the early advent movement unless you read what William Miller wrote and actually taught.
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There must be a historical series presentation of topics like this. I'll pray for it...
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Good. But you cut out a lot of parts the I believe is important to watch. Please can you give the full version...
Thank you.
Why not believe in Joseph Smith. Or Mary Eddy.
Unlike Ellen White, they are false prophets. Please watch this to learn what we believe about Ellen White: ruclips.net/video/_XEaCP_iarA/видео.html
Christ is our Sabbath rest. He instructed to come to Him to find rest. He is the Lord of the Sabbath rest. Paul tried to emphasize this as believers argued over days to worship. It was the Jews major flaw in dealing with scripture, making it legalistic and physical. Christ is our Sabbath rest, which makes every day holy and sacred.
Jesus did not replace the sabbath day. The Bible does not support that.
I agree with you..once you are saved, you will always be saved..a true sabbath rest in Christ never ends..
being born again is forever.
Every day is holy because God made them. One can conclude that everything that God made is holy. Guess what, God made us, like all the days. Are we all holy? We sin. Don't we? The difference between all the days that god made, which are holy, is that he sanctified one of them. Guess which one he sanctified (and therefore, set apart)?
Did E. White not have access the New Testement? How could she/they predict the arrival of Jesus Christ in 1844 when according to Scripture, no man knows the day nor the hour, not even Jesus Christ? I would greatly appreciate some insight/answers. Thank you.
Ellen white did not predict the second coming.
@@JustAMessengero7g that is why I stated "they" . Some either before or after her were rooted in the Great Disappointment of 1844. That is the clarification I'm seeking.
@@ladyempire5921
The prediction of the second coming in 1844 was made by William miller. He started preaching it in the 1830s. Ellen white and others heard him preach it at some point and joined his movement. Why William miller did not take “no one knows the day or hour” into account, I do not know.
@@JustAMessengero7g thank you. I just don't understand how or why some SDA take her word (EGW) above Gods when she was a part of a movement that did not take the scriptures into account on some occasions. The way she is "lifted" up is sometimes a hindrance to the true work of the gospel.
@@ladyempire5921
When William miller was preaching the second coming, ellen white was not getting visions yet. She did not start having them until after the great disappointment. And one thing that she taught after that was that “no one knows the day nor hour”. She was very adamant that predictions about the second coming were not allowed. So she would agree with you that “no one knows the day nor hour”. Her writings follow the Bible very well.
We do not hold her writings above the Bible, not even she did. She made it clear that her writings were not meant to replace the Bible. Some may have put her writings above the Bible, but I have not met any that do this and I have been an Adventist for over 20 years.
My Great Grandfather was an SDA missionary, Pastor. My grandma grew up in India from 1925 to 1940 when she was sent by her parents to live in the US
Wow! That's amazing. What is his name? May that missionary continue to live on.
@@HL365 Rembrandt Peale Morris :)
Thank you for clearing that up from her critics.
Where can I find the presentation on the Sabbath that was referenced? The presenter said that the Sabbath was presented in the context of righteousness by faith. Is that online?
Well , when Ellen White is writing about the Sabbath,she is including righteousness by faith ,all her books contain righteousness by faith
It is about the whole law!❤
IAM blown away by this illustration of sis white point us to the Bible and help to understand the truth
Why are her writings now has become an endless confusion, discussions,arguments,and debates among sda's? Are we to exalt her writings when sharing the truth from the word of God? Can not God Himself explains the truth from His written word for a sincere believing Christian who is honestly seeking for truth? James 1:5 says- If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God. 2nd Corinthians 2:5-says- That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God! The Bible says - That we need to search and study the word of God like the bereans did!
The confusion is not in her writings, it is with those who take it out of context and use it. If you have further questions, please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we'd be glad to talk to you about it.
@@HL365 ....take her writings out context?? The woman herself added unbiblical ideas that cannot found in scripture.
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I’m watching this now, very interesting, thank you!
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Thanks for this presentation
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No, I didn't miss that point. But my question is: Why Ellen G. White's works are important to understand to understand the Word of God? If she were a woman of God( God knows better) what about other men of God? Now is it that we need to know about all other men of God ( not mentioned in the Bible) and then we should advance to study the Word of God? Is it biblical? Are you appointed by God to tell your audience all this - preaching Ellen White? Answer me after visiting God.
Did you watch what was presented in the video?
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@@JamieElison
Who are you talking about? If you are referring to who uploaded the video, just email them. They even mentioned that option in this thread.
@@JamieElison
Earlier you mentioned what a true Christian would do. Well desiring to debate someone openly just so you can show them up is not the way a Christian goes about things. So if you consider yourself a Christian, you are not acting like one.
Where can one download the powerpoint presentation.
Sorry. That is not available.
Revelation 14:6-12, with its description of the messages of the three angels, stands at the very heart of Seventh-day Adventist identity as Ellen White saw it. She held from the beginning of her ministry to its end nearly 71 years later that God had especially commissioned Adventism to preach the message of the third angel. EWIT 120.3
Catch the sense of mission in her words: “In a special sense Seventh-day Adventists have been set in the world as watchmen and light bearers. To them has been entrusted the last warning for a perishing world.... They have been given a work of the most solemn import-the proclamation of the first, second, and third angels’ messages. There is no other work of so great importance. They are to allow nothing else to absorb their attention. EWIT 120.4
“The most solemn truths ever entrusted to mortals have been given to us to proclaim to the world. The proclamation of these truths is to be our work. The world is to be warned, and God’s people are to be true to the trust committed to them.”-Testimonies for the Church 9:19 EWIT 120.5
Like the other Seventh-day Adventist leaders, Ellen White viewed the three angels’ messages as a “perfect chain of truth” (Early Writings, 256) that extended from the 1840s to the end of time. The first message (the hour of the arrival of God’s judgment), they concluded, had been initiated by the preaching of William Miller in the 1830s and 1840s, while the second (the fall of Babylon) began to be preached in 1843
@@JamieElison what is ???
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv 457 ???
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we say her writings direct us to scriptures but the church often directs us to her writings, I think this is issue, especially for younger generations.
After her, was there no one else who had insight which also contributed to the church?
Also I have wondered so much about the investigative judgment and its Biblical basis. Our salvation through Jesus sacrifice for us isn’t that complete?
thanks for any insight
The investigative judgement has its biblical foundation several ways:
1) revelation 22:12 Jesus said He is coming with rewards. That means who gets what reward has already been determined. Which then means this was “investigated” before He returns.
2) check out anytime God pronounced judgment on anyone (Adam/eve, Sodom and Gomorrah, the flood, babel, etc). There are many examples of an investigation being done prior to judgment in the Bible.
3) Daniel shows books being opened before the second coming (Daniel 7:10)
EGW's writings, or original books more specifically, have been changed by re-editing and now have become the focus of SDA members to keep reading in place of the greater light, aka, the Authorized Bible, aka, the KJV. God did not give anyone the authorization to change or mess with the words of his prophets, including his prophets.
@@terry5914
That is a generalized statement you are making. SDA in general do not put her writings above the Bible. Some may but I haven’t met any.
@@JustAMessengero7g What ever it is, got only a portion of it acknowledged. Do you think it is alright to change the words of God's messengers?
What exactly is Scripture? Do u know?
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The Great Conspiracy. GREAT DECEPTIONS. God will unmask and reveal the real truth behind all this. Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy..... 1Timothy 4:1-2.
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And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Revelation 21:22
ellen g white had a vision of the New Jerusalem with a temple, and noone in "heaven" could go into it except for the 144000 elect...
Thats just one of many examples of her words filtering out true followers of Jesus.. don't follow her words.. follow Jesus
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Prophesy doesn't change the Bible. Doesn't add or subtract from it. Wake up
Please watch this to learn what we believe about Ellen White: ruclips.net/video/_XEaCP_iarA/видео.html
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My problem with E.G.White is that she claims that Moses was resurrected to "immortal life".
This is not found in Scripture.
In fact it contradicts the word of God.
Why is Moses being resurrected to immortal life not biblical? He appears to Jesus along with Elijah, so something happened.
@@JustAMessengero7g Thank you for your question.
The Holy Bible claims that only God is immortal.
Jesus stated that no man has gone to heaven.
The account of Moses on the mount of transfiguration was a VISION.
There is not a single verse in all the Scriptures that Moses was raised from the dead to immortal life.
In Hebrews 11 it is clear that nobody has yet received the promise.
Not a single person has gone to heaven. On this the Bible is clear.
@@jeanleroux6915
Then what is going on in Jude 1:9? Why would the archangel contend with Satan over the body of Moses if he wasn’t going to be resurrected? There would not be a discussion about it. But Jude shows that there was a contention.
And where is Enoch and Elijah? Enoch was taken by God (genesis 5) and Elijah was taken into heaven (2 kings 2:11). I understand what Jesus said in John 3:13 but Elijah and Enoch contradict what you believe Jesus meant. And since the Bible doesn’t contradict itself, Jesus may have meant something else. Perhaps when He said “no man has ascended to heaven” that He meant no man on earth has gone into heaven on their own. Cuz it is obvious that Elijah and Enoch are there but they did not fly up there on their own, they were taken. This shows that there is no issue with Moses being in heaven as long as God is the one who got him there.
@@JustAMessengero7g Thank you.
There is no place for "Jesus MAY have meant something else", or "PERHAPS when He said “no man has ascended to heaven” that He meant no man on earth has gone into heaven on their own" The Bible is clear.
Here is what the Bible has to say.
Thus sayeth the Lord
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Jude 1.9 makes no mention of the resurrection of Moses
Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Luke 9. 28-36 is revealed as a VISION Mat 17:9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the VISION to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
(The word vision, (Horama, in Greek, is found 12 times in the New Testament, and in each case it represents a supernatural vision)
The account of Elijah in 2 Kings 2 does not state that Elijah was taken to the abode of God. He was lifted by a whirlwind into the sky, and we read that people went to look for him on earth.
2Ki 2:16 And they said unto him, Behold now, there be with thy servants fifty strong men; let them go, we pray thee, and seek thy master: lest peradventure the Spirit of the LORD hath taken him up, and cast him upon some mountain, or into some valley. And he said, Ye shall not send.
2Ki 2:17 And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send. They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not. Further to this we have confirmation that Elijah was still alive on earth.
Here we read that some six to eight years after this account that Elijah sent a letter to king Jehoram
2Ch 21:12 And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah,
Matthew 27. 45-56 makes no mention of those raised being in heaven.
Genesis 5. 22-24 says that Enoch died (ALL his days was 365 years, and he was TAKEN.)
Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not;H369 for God took him.
Here is the dictionary definition for “was not” (H369)
H369 אין 'ayin ay'-yin As if from a primitive root meaning to be nothing or not exist; a non-entity; generally used as a negative particle: - else, except, fail [father-] less, be gone, in [-curable], neither, never, no (where), none, nor (any, thing), not, nothing, to nought, past, un [-searchable], well-nigh, without, Compare H370.
Hebrews 11 Please read Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
Jesus clearly stated that no man has ascended to heaven. I believe Him. The Scriptural evidence given is clear.
I am interested to know for what reason Enoch was taken to heaven.
Please let me know if Jesus was in error on this subject
, or did He not know that Enoch, Elijah and Moses were in heaven?
I look forward to hearing from you on this.
Thank you
@@jeanleroux6915 Hello Jean, I just want to tell you that I see that you have done an in-depth study on this subject. Your reading of the Scriptures is correct and spot on. Obviously you cannot be fooled by the false teachings based on E.G White writings, being dished up by the SDA Church. Well done!
Here is a note that I sent to @JustA Messenger who seems to be unable to refute or even reply to your post.
I sincerely do not think you will get a truthful reply from the church on this matter.
Messenger 1
1 second ago
@JustA Messenger "Our beliefs are based on th Bible and not what Ellen white wrote".
I am astounded that you can make this comment.
I have read the thread between Jean le Roux and yourself regarding the "resurrection of Moses" with Elijah, and Enoch being in heaven
Jean le Roux gave you the correct Biblical readings and proves without any doubt that the SDA church has set aside the Holy Bible to accept the White Gospels as truth on this matter.
Jean le Roux has given texts to prove that your belief rejects the clear Word of God, in favour of White and attempts to massage the Bible to fit White's writings.
For example, amongst other points raised, how can Moses be raised to immortal life when the Bible states that only God has immortality?
I will be waiting and watching to see your reply to Jean le Roux.
You will be able to give an answer, will you?
I doubt you can, somehow, but I hope I am wrong.
Not sure if this has been addressed in the comments as yet. However I’d like to know more about the Chart. “1843” chart I think it was called.
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Unfortunately you cant have a prophet that changes her own preaching under inspiration. Her own son Willy White and Uriah Smith + others affirmed her amalgamation statement to be about MAN+BEAST. Its racism under inspiration and its irrefutable. You are free to read the 1982 Spectrum article on this. Even her critics accused her of racism toward black people in her days. They had proof thats the case
Please read this: ellenwhite.org/faq/135
@@HL365 a lot of SDA including you repeat these bogus arguments that came 67 years aftet her comment. Do you get that i specifically quoted her Son and Uriah and her editor that tells you she didnt meant Intermarriage? I have seen your link and all SDA apologists. They cant deal with my specific quotes rather repeat generic false excuses. Read the whole spectrum article 1982 that narrates the entire debate on this. Its indefensible racism. Nobody of the pioneers understood her to mean intermarriage.
@@HL365 George McCready Price wrote in the April 1931 issue of The Ministry, that he would like to make a slight alteration in Ellen G. White's statements. "Since the flood there has been an amalgamation of man and (of) beast, as may be seen in almost endless varieties of species of animal, and in certain races of men." -"The Problem of Hybridization" The Ministry April 1931, p. 13.
D. E. Robinson for many years Ellen G. White's personal secretary took issue with Price: In a paper titled "Amalgamation Versus Evolution" said that Price's insertion of the word "of" into Ellen White's statements did violence to the "obvious meaning " that the author herself intended." -Spectrum, June 12, 1982, p.14.
Dr. Harold Clark a biologist tells the truth
"Clark called attention to his work with Ellen White's son, W. C. White and D. E. Robinson, her secretary. Neither of these men ever doubted that Ellen White meant the crossing of man and beast by the phrase "amalgamation of man and beast." -Spectrum, June 12, 1982, p.11.
Sry forgot to quote
So, if we quote an article, you say it is 67 years late. Yet, you do the same. by quoting a Spectrum article which was also so many decades after the original. If you would like to discuss further, please email us at info@Hopelives365.com and we'd be glad to talk to you.
@@HL365 I have left you an e-mail
I’m still not convinced to much on Mrs white and nothing on Jesus Christ not my cup of tea ☕️
I’m sorry you feel that way. If I may ask, what questions do you have about Mrs. White and Jesus?
Hi. No issues with that. Is there anything about Ellen white that can be cleared up?
@@JamieElison
On a number line there is a 0, so the math works out to be 1843, no issues. But we are not counting on a number line, we are counting on a timeline. On a timeline THERE IS NO YEAR ZERO. The years at that point go 2bc, 1bc, 1ad, 2ad and so on. So on a timeline 457bc plus 2300 years comes out to 1844ad.
@@JamieElison
Nice rant. Doesn’t change the fact that 2300 years from the year 457bc brings you to 1844ad.
@@JamieElison
Here is how this works:
457bc is the starting point. The final year BC is the year 1BC. Year 457bc to year 1BC is 456 years.
There is no year zero, so year 1BC is followed by year 1AD. Like dates in these two years are separated by 1 year. So far we have 456 + 1 is 457 years counted. We have 1843 years left to count.
Now picking up at year 1AD, we move forward the remaining 1843 years. 1 + 1843 = 1844.
I can’t demonstrate it any clearer than that.
How are these paintings not a transgression of 10 commandments. I am not here to argue, I am trying to wrap my head around Ellen white, I have accepted the Sabbath of God, I don't know what to do with that yet.
I also caught young men would have visions, why would scripture say this and then it be a young woman.
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Day keeping and food are not the test of true Christian faith.
Doing anything God requires is a test of faith.
For example, the sabbath. It takes a good amount of faith to reject a high paying job that requires work on the sabbath.
I was unemployed for a year after I retired from the military because everyone I interviewed with wanted me to work on sabbath. I finally got a job that did not require work on sabbath. God got us through the time of unemployment until He opened up an opportunity for me.
So keeping the sabbath is a test of faith.
@justamessenger4577 keeping the Saturday sabbath is the sign of being in a non-christian cult..to be saved our faith needs to rest in the new testament resurrection of Christ..his body was
dead in the grave on Saturday..nothing was done on Saturday..
nothing can save no one..to be saved, there has to be the resurrection of Christ
& the new life in Christ involved.
@@charlesmargolin6832
It is clear you do not know what SDA believe. Let me make this clear.
We don’t keep the sabbath to be saved, this is a very common misconception that is not unique to you. We are saved by the grace of God, that is one of our foundational beliefs. We keep the sabbath because we are saved and becasue we love Jesus. And as you said, we hold to the promise of the resurrection because Jesus was resurrected. No SDA would disagree with you.
Now that you know what SDA believe in this area, do you still think we are a cult? Especially since when it comes to being saved, we believe the same thing you do?
And Jesus being in the grave on sabbath and “nothing happening” on the sabbath does not change anything.
@@JustAMessengero7g IF U DONT KEEP THE SABBATH TO BE SAVED WHY IS OBSERVANCE OF THE CEREMONIAL 7TH DAY SABBATH THE SEAL OF GOD? THE ENTRY MARKER INTO HEAVEN? IF U DONT SEE THE CONTRADICTIONS UR CLEARLY INDOCTRINATED
I'm not a member of the SDA. Read through Lev 11 , Acts 15 :21 , Eph 2 :12 , Matt 9;16-19 , John 14:15, 1John 5:2-3 , Romans 13:9 , Deut 2:28. I can list more scripture for you if needed.
Have you ever heard the expression you are what you eat ? Do you realize the animals that roll around in or eat their own excrement literally carry parasites and bacterium ? Have you ever heard that approximately 90% or more of all disease known to man is related to gut health ?
I'm looking into these topics since, if nothing else, it's logical and biblical.
A neighbor just gave me some of Ellen Whites writings. Very interesting, so far.
Can someone explain to me why Ellen G. White did not write anything about trinity and seems like more inclined towards unitarianism?
Please read this: www.sdanet.org/atissue/trinity/moon/moon-trinity2.htm
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Amen LORD!!!
Amen!
Praise God for his manifestation
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The greatest command is to love one another- to come and reason… I am always astounded by the hate that spews and exposes the senders.
Yes. We must love each other as ourselves.
You need to be even more astounded by the hate spewed by some SDAs towards anyone who dares to question the authenticity of Ellen White.
If you look at the very head of the line in that picture Robert Folkenberg is leading the line, not Jesus.
Sorry, that’s not correct.
@@HL365 It is Folkenberg, look closer. I had that picture until I noticed that and threw it away. If you think the SDA church is being led by Jesus you are mistaken. "The church has turned back from following Christ her leader and is steadily retreating toward Egypt." 5T 217 "The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not in her midst." LDE 49