10/11/1978 - Promoter Bill Graham, Rock Critic Robert Gilberth Producer/Manager Kim Fowley, Musicians Joan Jett (The Runaways) and Paul Weller (The Jam)
When I was younger I was absolutely obsessed with her. I went to a concert of hers, second row but the people in front of us were so kind and let me hop over to the front row. I was just head bopping and just having the time of my life. Joan looks at me, and she goes “You got it, babe!” I’m pretty sure little 8 year old me was dying. I will never forget that day.
Does having dreams about The Runaways, hunting down every interview of them in existence, listening to the band members' solo projects/offspring bands, beatboxing (trying to mimic their guitar tone and drums) and singing along with every song every day, while only having known them for half a year, count as hardcore too?
These old dinosaurs gave Joan no respect, yet 40 years later she is still going strong and is a household name. I think her career was and is among the best and to be really admired.
36:19: “Isn’t it possible that you, the oppressed now, will be the oppressor someday down the road?” “Probably. Which is good; that’s healthy.” ... "No genuine social revolution can be accomplished by the male, as the male on top wants the status quo, and all the male on the bottom wants is to be the male on top." - Valerie Solanas
RapeState U You do know we’re talking about a career in music, don’t you? Joan is an incredible artist. I think you, and Snyder are being a little dramatic here. I was married to a feminist when I was young. It was awful. Better to live on the corner of the roof top than with a contentious woman. - Proverbs.
Yelmo Head They were being out of touch and acting like “old people”. They were so disrespectful to these young musicians. Jett was 7 weeks at number 1 on the Charts 2 years after this interview and had a 40 year career. Now Calling him a dinosaur is just an expression to show how completely unaware of her talent he was. Why this hurt your feelings, I have no clue. Please relax, it’s just an expression.
@@itsrob2321 It doesn´t hurt my feelings in the least, moron. As you said, 2 fucking years after, she started being "someone", but at the moment of the interview she was nobody in the US, and I don´t really think that Snyder was disrespecful by asking these new musicians what they would do if they became a household name, or was it?
Joan is such an inspiration. Humble, smart, realist and dripping with integrity. One of a very small handful of contemporary role models for young girls. Thank you.
Integrity? Fowley raped Jackie Faux the underage Bassist for the Runaways, Joan knew it and turned a bling eye because she wanted to be a Star. Hard to call that having integrity.
Humble? The poor kid was shy to the point of panic attacks. Even to this day, she's not comfortable in front of a crowd unless she's holding her guitar and playing. That she can even put together a sentence here is pure strength of will.
@@markgrant1302 Yes, and she also teamed with Toby Mamus who has also assaulted young girls. I know she was underage as well and may have also paid a price for her stardom, but I wish she would speak out about what went on back then. Kim is a complete creep. So sorry he didn't live to get what he deserved.
And you can thank Tom Snyder for this one. People will talk 💩 about him, but the fact is, he brought a lot of rising stars on his show and let them talk, where not many others did.
@@kennethlatham3133 when I was a teenager I would tune in to Tomorrow and was never disappointed. Tom got a lot of disrespect from the rest of the media but he was a trailblazer. I'll never forget when Wendy O Williams (Plasmatics) blew up a car with dynamite live on Tomorrow...
The good old days ! I came to Canada in1986 from Europe. We smoked on the plaine on the way here . Than we were aloud to smoke in McDonald's believed or not ,pretty much anywhere: coffee shops restaurants you name it . The good old days
Back in the day....lol. I saw Joan Jett open for AC/DC. The AC/DC fans booed her off stage. I felt bad for her and thought the audience was completely out of line.
What year? And yeah, what city? AC/DC fans are rock-n-roll fans so it’s hard to believe that they would not like Joan Jett, unless it was some “completely out of line” city.....
its like jazz is now, a legacy music with a niche audience to some extent. That said, who cares, do your own thing. But the thing is, I do miss the rebellion and scaring of parents that rock or metal used to do, going up against the establishment
Right, But the Crack head with bolts in his neck , comes on strong once he's heard enough ! !, lol There's no doubt he knows what's up, hand on the pulse type of shit..And band's bought the shit he wrote about in a song..For them to sing, an the shallow fans to think it's them..Gettin that paper in 78, lol
Some context for viewers who were not around in the 70s... Tom Snyder's show ran very late, at midnight CST, and he generally covered one topic per show, in depth. He was sort of like the closest thing we had to Joe Rogan in the 70s in this regard. If he was covering a topic you were interested in, you definitely stayed up late to watch because there was no VCR to record and watch it later. This video is on YT because it's a very early interview of Joan Jett who we all know would go on to become famous. She was not famous yet in this interview, and Snyder was not part of the Hollywood press that fawns over celebrities. He was an adult, asking adult questions to guests that he treated like adults. His questions are fair and he respects his guests by listening to their answers and giving followups. This particular episode is an absolute treasure because Snyder smartly recognized there was a new movement in music happening and he wanted to both understand it for himself and his audience. Thanks for uploading it!
I respect your effort to explain to the kids who Tom Snyder was, but comparing him to Joe Rogan is blasphemous. Joe Rogan sold his soul long ago and has done everything he can to try and stay relevant. He is putting on the facade to appear like an everyday guy but he is slave to the NWO deception. I have never seen signs of Snyder selling his soul, and he never tried to stay relevant. He was simply himself.
I remember in 1977 I was in Japan at a concert of The Runaways, they then performed the "golden line-up" of Joan Jett, Lita Ford, Jackie Fox, Sandy West, and Cherry Carrie. So for me it was an absolute happiness to see them live, then I raved about this band, I wanted to see and listen to them again and again. And I just fell in love with Joan Jett, and she became an idol for me and remains to this day, although more than 40 years have passed. I still enjoy listening to The Runaways and will probably listen for the rest of my life and remember my youth!!!
I actually watched this live in 1977. I was a freshman in college way up in extreme northern Michigan. Guess I could NOT sleep due to depression for being the only cool cat in extreme northern Michigan.
RIP Bull Graham, Holocaust survivor...died in a helicopter crash. RIP Kim and Tom. Love watching Joan Jett as young kid, such a cool personality withOut trying to be; so happy she’s still rocking!
Gotta give Tom Snyder credit for trying to inquire, understand and learn about the Punk/New Wave movement. He would later on have The Plasmatics on his show a few times, and he loved and was truly fascinated with Wendy O..
Yeah well I think he'd probably learned by that point he wasn't dealing with fools. His interviews with PiL, Weller & Joan Jett here, and other young artists haven't aged well. I haven't seen the Wendy O' Williams/ Plasmatics interviews so jury's out here but I'll take your word for now.
2 Thumbs up to Tom Snyder for booking so many great guest . People like Iggy Pop , John Lydon & Keith Levene from PIL , Patty Smith , Wendy O Williams just to name a few . Joan Jett did become a household name and now is in the Rock n Roll hall of fame .
Joan Jett is to be commended and respected for many reasons. A few of which are her maturity, thick skin and focus. She’s literally a child here and these men are being rude, pretentious asses. Yet, she maintains her composure and keeps the focus on the music. At her age, I would have wanted to go toe to toe with the jerk stating we don’t ask a question more than once. Okay, to be honest, I felt my blood pressure beginning to rise and I’m in my 50’s and he wasn’t even talking to me. Rude people irritate me. She was so tough and mature at such a young age. She was and is, from interviews that I have seen, very kind and wise. …and…Joan Jett IS a beautiful person inside and out who is very talented in many areas!
I cut my hair like Joan in 83..it was down to my ass and cut it all off,my husband didnt want me too but I loved Joan Jett and I was a badass..and everyone loved it..im thinking about doing it again...2020
Thanks for posting this. Great reflection of the times and how this "new music" was affecting the masses. I don't see any "new" or original happening like this today.
This is great. I graduated high school in 1980, so Joan Jett New Wave, and punk Rock were my generation. Funny that Joan and Paul Weller rejected the term Punk Rock. At some point it became cool. Joan is very well spoken in this. Not a surprise that she was able to do what she did with the Blackhearts. Tom Snyder was underappreciated. He was on too late for me to see most of his shows, no VCR in the house. He put together a lot of topical programs like this. Blondie, the Ramones, the Sex Pistols, the Cars, the Talking heads. Punk. New Wave was great
I can remember when the word “punk” was only used derogatorily. Before punk rock, it carried an extremely unappealing connotation. If you graduated in ‘80 then I’m sure I don’t need to explain that one. Most of the original first generation punks hated the label/term, and didn’t want to be called “punk”. As I remember it, it wasn’t until some time around the turn of the decade (70’s/80’s) that it started being self-applied by those taking part in it, and was considered a badge of honor rather than an insult.
What a great find, remember watching this show sometimes as a kid on my 12" B&W. Was the last program on the three networks before they signed off if I recall. Joan is still a beautiful talented woman but god she was so ecstatically pleasing in her youth, I hate myself is such a great song played loud like she wants it to be.
Funny to hear what they think is astonishing musically....now you cant even get on the radio unless u sound like kiddie friendly.....these were the golden years~!!!!
Kiddie friendly? what kind of station have you been listening to. I can't turn on the radio nowadays without hearing songs about sex or any other provocative subject. It's getting old really.
Paul Lvamp it’s not what’s on the radio, it’s what today’s artist record in general. Nothing but hip hop crap. And the RnB lost its soul when Motown died.
Damn! The Runaways' bass player sounds GREAT here! Her lines are melodic yet rhythmic. Much respect for her. Also, thanks to whoever mixed it to where it can be heard in the first place.
I love this so much.Joan,bad reputation, so awesome.And Weller..Music unites.I do love all on this clip.So cool,before everyone was at each others throats!😀
Tom Snyder actually tried to have intelligent conversations about things that concerned and interested young people so perhaps old people could understand. Didn’t always work, but I tried to never miss a show. I missed this one so glad it has been resurrected. Joan Jett Rules!
Did he? He certainly was lurking around the scene back then, that’s for sure. Whether he had a fucking clue or not about what was happening around him was open to much debate. He tried with punk, but the punks rejected him. The Runaways were pretty much the last relevant thing he had anything to do with. I will say this much: he really had a way with words. He was a brilliant gutter poet. One of my all time favorite Fowley lines was when he was describing the early L.A. punk scene as “Existential, excremental sexual shit at death’s door”. 🤣
Very interesting, thanks for posting. I'm not quite sure what Tom Snyder's deal was with Kim Fowley, but he's behaving like a condescending prick towards him, even going so far as to tell Kim he looked ridiculous right after he introduced him. Perhaps it was just an old guard reaction to somebody who appeared to threaten convention and the establishment way of life, but it's obvious Kim Fowley knew more about the record industry at eighteen than Tom Snyder could ever hope to know, and as such he merited more respect than Snyder gave him. I notice Bill Graham, probably the most successful rock impresario of his time, did not feel the need to resort to condesention and petty insults, though he too was part of Snyder's generation. Anyway this video was a very cool look back at an interesting time in rock history.
Now that's laughable, Paul's sitting there looking like Steve Marriott out of 60's band The Small Faces. Who he was influenced by and many other 60's bands and that era of clothes and music.
Tom Synder was great and easy to watch. He always had the 'unusual'. The Punk scene and new-wave was so much fun. If you were into it, you knew the 'whys'. Kim Fowley was so bizarre, I mean really bizarre. I didn't see Cheri or Jackie in the clip. Cheri left to go solo after a short time, but she really started with the band and gave it a 'face' - so to speak. In the beginning for the band, Cheri did a lot of lead vocals, and Jackie was the Runway's bass player.
The Wedge Bill Graham was a concert promoter who took exception to certain groups using Nazi paraphernalia having fled Germany as a child during the war, his whole family was murdered. The rest of them were pretty pretentious though.
The Wedge Ignorant too saying that this started in England! Iggy Pop, The Velvet Underground and The Ramones started it. They’re extremely shallow about understanding it
It was brand new then. Most people didn't know a whole lot about it then. Tom Snyder was cool just for having these people on and discussing the subject. Who the heck else was interviewing Joan Jett at that time?
I would have much rather seen them in either ‘79 or ‘80. Setting Sons, Sound Affects time. That’s when they were really at their peak. Don’t get me wrong, I love stuff like “In The City”, but they got so much better when they started infusing their music with a more soulful sound.
And none of those guys would have ever imagined that in about 2 1/2 yrs Joan's journey to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame would begin with the release of Bad Reputation followed by I Love Rock and Roll
As if she or anyone else needed something as completely ridiculous and irrelevant as a “rock and roll hall of fame”. When are people going to finally realize that place is nothing more than a giant circle jerk wankfest for music industry scumbags and their disgusting little sycophants? Seriously, it has f***-all to do with actual rock and roll. These absurd inductions are nothing more than an excuse for all the industry sleazeballs to get together and jerk off each other’s egos, while they charge $10K a seat for anyone attending, and that includes friends and family of the bands they induct. Half the bands and artists that have been inducted are the furthest thing from rock and roll you can imagine, while actual, important rock and roll pioneers are completely ignored. I just wish people would see that horrible place for what it actually is and quit acting like being inducted there is some kind of honor.
Thank you Mat . I stood right there in our den in Laguna Niguel as I was raised babysat by Joan and this is all my family these hardcore and true true the specimens Tex and the horse heads We were holding our strength The avengers had just begun she n I traded encouragement Lee the lees I’m gonna get another Coach and tour . I hope I get to play again I hope I get to play with The Zeroes.
13:35 Kim Fowley, with all his campness and controversy, speaks some cold hard truth here. He clearly understood what the music was all about. I love how he calls Tom out for dismissing the music.
Being a starving artist doesn't make you anti-establishment. Mindset and actions are what define who you are. If money or success change who you are and influence you to be a shallow person, that is what you then become, or were all along.
I love the debate or discussion about the difference between punk rock and new wave. There are similarities and differences. They similarly are for those that seek an alternative to rock and roll and other genres. There are also similarities in the subjects they sing about. The differences have to do with style and sound. In my opinion punk artists are: The Ramones, Patti Smith (I disagree with Bob), The Sex Pistols, Iggy Pop, The Clash, The Dead Boys and many others. New wave artists are: The Smiths, The Psychedelic Furs, The Cars, Elvis Costello, Devo and many others.
Download? she said "write a song". The internet wasn't even a thing when this aired. Apple made it's first computer in 1978, but it didn't have any software or disk drives...lol. A calculator today has more memory...
I was part of the punk movement in the late 70s in Los Angeles. Basically, if there was somebody talented enough to play a guitar solo, you couldn’t be a punk band you were a rock band.
People will say what they will about Tom Snyder - but, he gave more airtime to Punk-New Wave-Power Pop bands than any other TV show in America at a time when we were all struggling against the monster that was American Cream Cheese Radio. I'll gladly give Tom "kudos" for the exposure he gave our subversive Rock 'n' Roll revivalist movement in the States.
+Jake Drew Tom Snyder was my favorite TV-show interviewer. So relaxed & confident. Tom Snyder´s "Tomorrow Show" was my favorite one. He seemed to be a very nice & genuine guy too. RIP Tom Snyder (1936 - 2007).
It is really frustrating to hear Snyder and his guests conflate UK and US punk, and the New Wave scene, and worst of all, almost completely ignore its' antecedents. And treat both, punk and New Wave, as if they were brand new movements in 1978. Guess they hadn't really listened to the Bay City Rollers, or the Sonics, or the Velvet Underground; or seen Iggy Pop and the Stooges perform live; or heard any of (the) MC-5's early albums...
@@hazelwray5307 No, not Sonic Youth. The Sonics, from Tacoma Washington. In the '60s, they were punk before punk was punk, haha. Look them up. Songs like Psycho, The Witch, Strychnine, etc. Gerry Roslie had a voice so powerful it could peel paint off the walls.
never seen this before but I think the best thing to happen to Joan Jett was this Kym POS "quitting" her! Joan is and always will be Fantastic! She's done so much more than this punk rock bullshit...
Great interview, Joan was still a teenager but her world view was fully formed. She was dismissed by so many people, but the Runaways were fairly big in Australia and as Joan says massive in Japan. Even in the interview, the other guests lauded Paul Weller, but barely acknowledged Joan. I think Kim Fowley like Malcolm McLaren was a great ideas man, but could not see past the immediate impact of success. She was lucky to have met Kenny Laguna, to push her ahead and stuck with her through the knock backs of not getting a record control with the major labels. The industry in America was not ready for an all girl band in 1976. Tìhe Go Go's in 1981 after years themselves struggling to get a foot in the door, finally broke through. And Joan in 1982 broke the charts wide open without compromising at all in her looks or style.
Paul and Joan smoked a spliff before on air.I love this intetview.Bill Graham was a club promoter,not a record producer.Different era,Weller says Bowie and Townshend weren't millionares,lol,the kid was naieve,fantastic stuff..
When I was younger I was absolutely obsessed with her. I went to a concert of hers, second row but the people in front of us were so kind and let me hop over to the front row. I was just head bopping and just having the time of my life. Joan looks at me, and she goes “You got it, babe!” I’m pretty sure little 8 year old me was dying. I will never forget that day.
omg when was that? i would sob so hard if that shit happened to me even now that i'm 17
@@alexs.1389 it was a long time ago. I think I was 8 or 9. I’m almost 16 now.
jealous of you😭
Ong best day ever
I always found Blondie too soft for a "punk" band Joan Jett and Cherie currie is what I gravitated to
Joan Jett: "hard to imagine us becoming a household name and influencing people" 30 years later...well done!
Does having dreams about The Runaways, hunting down every interview of them in existence, listening to the band members' solo projects/offspring bands, beatboxing (trying to mimic their guitar tone and drums) and singing along with every song every day, while only having known them for half a year, count as hardcore too?
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@Israel Tommy Yup, been watching on Kaldrostream for years myself :D
Bruh...
These old dinosaurs gave Joan no respect, yet 40 years later she is still going strong and is a household name. I think her career was and is among the best and to be really admired.
36:19: “Isn’t it possible that you, the oppressed now, will be the oppressor someday down the road?”
“Probably. Which is good; that’s healthy.”
...
"No genuine social revolution can be accomplished by the male, as the male
on top wants the status quo, and all the male on the bottom wants is to be
the male on top."
- Valerie Solanas
RapeState U You do know we’re talking about a career in music, don’t you? Joan is an incredible artist. I think you, and Snyder are being a little dramatic here. I was married to a feminist when I was young. It was awful. Better to live on the corner of the roof top than with a contentious woman. - Proverbs.
Old dinosaurs? Oh, you shut the fuck up....They were being realistic....you stupid prick....
Yelmo Head They were being out of touch and acting like “old people”. They were so disrespectful to these young musicians. Jett was 7 weeks at number 1 on the Charts 2 years after this interview and had a 40 year career. Now Calling him a dinosaur is just an expression to show how completely unaware of her talent he was. Why this hurt your feelings, I have no clue. Please relax, it’s just an expression.
@@itsrob2321 It doesn´t hurt my feelings in the least, moron. As you said, 2 fucking years after, she started being "someone", but at the moment of the interview she was nobody in the US, and I don´t really think that Snyder was disrespecful by asking these new musicians what they would do if they became a household name, or was it?
Joan is such an inspiration. Humble, smart, realist and dripping with integrity. One of a very small handful of contemporary role models for young girls. Thank you.
Integrity? Fowley raped Jackie Faux the underage Bassist for the Runaways, Joan knew it and turned a bling eye because she wanted to be a Star. Hard to call that having integrity.
@@markgrant1302 Well they were all manipulated by Kim. Joan isn't to blame.
Humble? The poor kid was shy to the point of panic attacks. Even to this day, she's not comfortable in front of a crowd unless she's holding her guitar and playing. That she can even put together a sentence here is pure strength of will.
@@BloodofPatriots She was so young here, only 20... and only 16 or 17 when they made the Runaways band !
@@markgrant1302 Yes, and she also teamed with Toby Mamus who has also assaulted young girls. I know she was underage as well and may have also paid a price for her stardom, but I wish she would speak out about what went on back then. Kim is a complete creep. So sorry he didn't live to get what he deserved.
Kim looks like a 60s Batman villan lol
Heavy Jay the weird drugged up joker hahah
Heavy Jay glad I'm not the only one that thought that!!
That was probably a deliberate move on his part.
He was a vile piece of trash.
@@sevensmith460 Why? He was hilarious here. What did he do?
24:06 for those looking for Joan Jett.
CrashYitsu- Thanks!
Thanks man the beginning was kind of bullshitty
For those looking for Paul Weller. Thank you.
Thank you two years later lol
You the real mvp
I wish there were more interviews of Joan in the 70s
And you can thank Tom Snyder for this one. People will talk 💩 about him, but the fact is, he brought a lot of rising stars on his show and let them talk, where not many others did.
There is lots of them there on RUclips
@@kennethlatham3133 when I was a teenager I would tune in to Tomorrow and was never disappointed. Tom got a lot of disrespect from the rest of the media but he was a trailblazer. I'll never forget when Wendy O Williams (Plasmatics) blew up a car with dynamite live on Tomorrow...
Ah, Joan. Now she's in the hall of fame!
It always cracks me up to see old broadcasting footage where the interviewer is smoking.
The Tonight Show... it's so weird.
You two are easily amused.
Smoking isn’t as bad as you’ve heard. Now the government. Now they are and always were bad. We don’t stand a chance. Lmao rock on
The good old days ! I came to Canada in1986 from Europe. We smoked on the plaine on the way here . Than we were aloud to smoke in McDonald's believed or not ,pretty much anywhere: coffee shops restaurants you name it . The good old days
Aaaah yes...the gold ol days
Back in the day....lol. I saw Joan Jett open for AC/DC. The AC/DC fans booed her off stage. I felt bad for her and thought the audience was completely out of line.
byron2521 What City?
What year? And yeah, what city? AC/DC fans are rock-n-roll fans so it’s hard to believe that they would not like Joan Jett, unless it was some “completely out of line” city.....
@@bradss1000 well the reason was most likely is in the 70s people (especially men) believed that women shouldnt play rock and roll.
That's fucked up man, damn I cannot believe it
@MAD GRUMPYMAN a male giving the same male opinions of males in the 70s LMFAO
Joan Jett is one the true rock n roll greats of all time
@MAD GRUMPYMAN word?
She was just so naive and fresh.Amazing.That guy when asked about booking them was a flat out example of how female musicians were treated back then.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Fowley#Controversy
*Rock 'n' roll needs to be central to our culture again*
Edward Bliss rock is as dead as Elvis rip
@@dannyanime3468 'Rock and Roll, can never die' - Neil Young 😎
Agreed
its like jazz is now, a legacy music with a niche audience to some extent. That said, who cares, do your own thing. But the thing is, I do miss the rebellion and scaring of parents that rock or metal used to do, going up against the establishment
Most music feels so soft now
I loved the Runaways...Joan and Lita were fore runners of today's girls bands...They were awesome!!! STILL are..
The runaways and to mabey a lesser degree but no less influential Girls school in England.
And what about Sandy, Jackie, Cherie, or Vicki? There was more to the Runaways than just Joan and Lita.
Fanny were the forerunners
So... I’m in love with Joan Jett
Kim Fowley: Frankenstein on crack.
-Iggy Pop
Who fucking cares. Who the fuck are you?
Right, But the Crack head with bolts in his neck , comes on strong once he's heard enough ! !, lol
There's no doubt he knows what's up, hand on the pulse type of shit..And band's bought the shit he wrote about in a song..For them to sing, an the shallow fans to think it's them..Gettin that paper in 78, lol
@@tonyedwards2064 oh he had a eye and a ear, that's for sure.
@@thana1491 Iggy was lead singer of the Stooges 🙄.
He was a creep, I hope he's getting "his" last 9yrs
Some context for viewers who were not around in the 70s... Tom Snyder's show ran very late, at midnight CST, and he generally covered one topic per show, in depth. He was sort of like the closest thing we had to Joe Rogan in the 70s in this regard. If he was covering a topic you were interested in, you definitely stayed up late to watch because there was no VCR to record and watch it later.
This video is on YT because it's a very early interview of Joan Jett who we all know would go on to become famous. She was not famous yet in this interview, and Snyder was not part of the Hollywood press that fawns over celebrities. He was an adult, asking adult questions to guests that he treated like adults. His questions are fair and he respects his guests by listening to their answers and giving followups.
This particular episode is an absolute treasure because Snyder smartly recognized there was a new movement in music happening and he wanted to both understand it for himself and his audience. Thanks for uploading it!
Was always a wiseguy- but respectfull.Weird
I respect your effort to explain to the kids who Tom Snyder was, but comparing him to Joe Rogan is blasphemous. Joe Rogan sold his soul long ago and has done everything he can to try and stay relevant. He is putting on the facade to appear like an everyday guy but he is slave to the NWO deception. I have never seen signs of Snyder selling his soul, and he never tried to stay relevant. He was simply himself.
I remember in 1977 I was in Japan at a concert of The Runaways, they then performed the "golden line-up" of Joan Jett, Lita Ford, Jackie Fox, Sandy West, and Cherry Carrie. So for me it was an absolute happiness to see them live, then I raved about this band, I wanted to see and listen to them again and again. And I just fell in love with Joan Jett, and she became an idol for me and remains to this day, although more than 40 years have passed. I still enjoy listening to The Runaways and will probably listen for the rest of my life and remember my youth!!!
I just watched that concert or oars of it, on here 5 minutes ago. 👍
When Kim Fowley mentions the 9yo kid standing up and being inspired, that was me.
Joan Jett has so much of a softer voice than I expected
Remember that's she's barely 18 at that point...
@@dirkfromhein ...and very shy.
@@dirkfromhein This was ‘78 right? So she was 20 I think but still very young
She was 20 at the time. If you watch a more recent interview she sounds a lot different (no disrespect it’s true)
OP has the date wrong. This is actually 10-11-77. She had just turned 19
Joan ends up the Queen of Rock and Roll. I saw the Runaways in 1976 in a mall parking lot in a Buffalo NY suburb. They rocked.
i'm in love with 1978's joan omg crush
yes yes yess
1977, correct year
Totally 💯
I love how she shut Kim Fowley down at -13:51 when he tried to lead her comment. So young and already in her power.
Ahem, 2018, Joan Jett is a "household word"
@Matt_Dylan saw Bad Reputation, wished it was longer lol
I actually watched this live in 1977. I was a freshman in college way up in extreme northern Michigan. Guess I could NOT sleep due to depression for being the only cool cat in extreme northern Michigan.
RIP Bull Graham, Holocaust survivor...died in a helicopter crash. RIP Kim and Tom. Love watching Joan Jett as young kid,
such a cool personality withOut trying to be; so happy she’s still rocking!
I would give everything to be a teenager during these years
It was a BLAST.
It was great! 😎
It was wonderful, but today in my old age I wish it was that good for teenagers today. Three words, a key to paradise: NO FKN COMPUTERS.
If you're wishing to live in another era now, you would have back then too.
@@Eidelmania ya i bet!
Gotta give Tom Snyder credit for trying to inquire, understand and learn about the Punk/New Wave movement. He would later on have The Plasmatics on his show a few times, and he loved and was truly fascinated with Wendy O..
Yeah give him credit for being a prick this whole interview
Yeah well I think he'd probably learned by that point he wasn't dealing with fools. His interviews with PiL, Weller & Joan Jett here, and other young artists haven't aged well. I haven't seen the Wendy O' Williams/ Plasmatics interviews so jury's out here but I'll take your word for now.
Love Joan, forever! Shoutout to Tom Snyder for his unique style of conducting a talk show.
"Punk Rock is a B Movie on viynl" -Kim Fowley. so true (and I like B movies!)
'Tomorrow Show' was the best, with Tom Snyder. Long time ago! R.I.P.
Wow, that was really interesting! A peek behind the scenes in the music industry back then. Thank you to whoever posted this video.
2 Thumbs up to Tom Snyder for booking so many great guest . People like Iggy Pop , John Lydon & Keith Levene from PIL , Patty Smith , Wendy O Williams just to name a few . Joan Jett did become a household name and now is in the Rock n Roll hall of fame .
Joan Jett is to be commended and respected for many reasons. A few of which are her maturity, thick skin and focus. She’s literally a child here and these men are being rude, pretentious asses. Yet, she maintains her composure and keeps the focus on the music. At her age, I would have wanted to go toe to toe with the jerk stating we don’t ask a question more than once. Okay, to be honest, I felt my blood pressure beginning to rise and I’m in my 50’s and he wasn’t even talking to me. Rude people irritate me. She was so tough and mature at such a young age. She was and is, from interviews that I have seen, very kind and wise.
…and…Joan Jett IS a beautiful person inside and out who is very talented in many areas!
So cool to see her as a late teenager who wanted to play rock and roll!
Tom Snyder was the best.How many bands he gave time to.He was a good guy.❤❤❤
Joan had just turned 20 and had been performing with the Runaways for about three years.
I cut my hair like Joan in 83..it was down to my ass and cut it all off,my husband didnt want me too but I loved Joan Jett and I was a badass..and everyone loved it..im thinking about doing it again...2020
Please do it!!!
Thank you for this. Tom Snyder always had the best segments, from smoking addiction to cutting edge music
The way she looks at you can brake your bones
One in particular...
@@RockNRoller66 i don't get it lol
@@violetlunna He means a male body part that actually has no bone..but is often referred to as though it might. ; )
Great to see Joan back when I listened to The Runaways in high school!
Thanks for posting this. Great reflection of the times and how this "new music" was affecting the masses. I don't see any "new" or original happening like this today.
whatever I love Joan!!!!!
I love Paul Weller's gum chewing while smoking - LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's one-of-a-kind, isn't he? Kind of a straight Bowie. Does it his way, and does it differently. Rock, new wave, soul.
Bill Graham 👍☮️👈🏽
That guy was as much a legend ( in regards to music ) as any body in the house!!🎸
I fuckin enjoy the runaways music! Joan Jett is Motherfuckin talented!🤜🏾🤛🏻🎸🎼🎶🎶🎶🎶👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
This is great. I graduated high school in 1980, so Joan Jett New Wave, and punk Rock were my generation. Funny that Joan and Paul Weller rejected the term Punk Rock. At some point it became cool. Joan is very well spoken in this. Not a surprise that she was able to do what she did with the Blackhearts. Tom Snyder was underappreciated. He was on too late for me to see most of his shows, no VCR in the house. He put together a lot of topical programs like this. Blondie, the Ramones, the Sex Pistols, the Cars, the Talking heads. Punk. New Wave was great
I can remember when the word “punk” was only used derogatorily. Before punk rock, it carried an extremely unappealing connotation. If you graduated in ‘80 then I’m sure I don’t need to explain that one. Most of the original first generation punks hated the label/term, and didn’t want to be called “punk”. As I remember it, it wasn’t until some time around the turn of the decade (70’s/80’s) that it started being self-applied by those taking part in it, and was considered a badge of honor rather than an insult.
Paul Weller: Legend.
I saw this when it first aired around September 1977. I was a HUGE Runaways fan. Luckily, I got to see them twice in concert.
Lucky you, Gary! I need some details!..
What a great find, remember watching this show sometimes as a kid on my 12" B&W.
Was the last program on the three networks before they signed off if I recall.
Joan is still a beautiful talented woman but god she was so ecstatically pleasing in her youth, I hate myself is such a great song played loud like she wants it to be.
Awesome interview a history lesson
Thanks for posting. This is great history.
Funny to hear what they think is astonishing musically....now you cant even get on the radio unless u sound like kiddie friendly.....these were the golden years~!!!!
yep
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Kiddie friendly? what kind of station have you been listening to. I can't turn on the radio nowadays without hearing songs about sex or any other provocative subject. It's getting old really.
@@catya Sadly that's what is kiddie friendly these days. Taylor Swift and shit.
Paul Lvamp it’s not what’s on the radio, it’s what today’s artist record in general. Nothing but hip hop crap. And the RnB lost its soul when Motown died.
Damn! The Runaways' bass player sounds GREAT here! Her lines are melodic yet rhythmic. Much respect for her. Also, thanks to whoever mixed it to where it can be heard in the first place.
Vicki Blue.
Thanks for sharing!!!
I love this so much.Joan,bad reputation, so awesome.And Weller..Music unites.I do love all on this clip.So cool,before everyone was at each others throats!😀
A rock legend because they said she's a rock legend, she isn't a rock legend she was a disturbance that drew curiosity
Tom Snyder actually tried to have intelligent conversations about things that concerned and interested young people so perhaps old people could understand. Didn’t always work, but I tried to never miss a show. I missed this one so glad it has been resurrected. Joan Jett Rules!
Came for Joan Jett and got Wells as a nice surprize!
LMAO at Kim Fowley, He was truly a mad genius...Psycho,yes but he had his finger on the pulse of the scene in the 70's.
Did he? He certainly was lurking around the scene back then, that’s for sure. Whether he had a fucking clue or not about what was happening around him was open to much debate. He tried with punk, but the punks rejected him. The Runaways were pretty much the last relevant thing he had anything to do with.
I will say this much: he really had a way with words. He was a brilliant gutter poet. One of my all time favorite Fowley lines was when he was describing the early L.A. punk scene as “Existential, excremental sexual shit at death’s door”. 🤣
Very interesting, thanks for posting. I'm not quite sure what Tom Snyder's deal was with Kim Fowley, but he's behaving like a condescending prick towards him, even going so far as to tell Kim he looked ridiculous right after he introduced him. Perhaps it was just an old guard reaction to somebody who appeared to threaten convention and the establishment way of life, but it's obvious Kim Fowley knew more about the record industry at eighteen than Tom Snyder could ever hope to know, and as such he merited more respect than Snyder gave him. I notice Bill Graham, probably the most successful rock impresario of his time, did not feel the need to resort to condesention and petty insults, though he too was part of Snyder's generation. Anyway this video was a very cool look back at an interesting time in rock history.
Snyder tried a bit of that bullshit with John Lennon, until he pointed out Snyder's 'Beatle style haircut' to him. Very funny, even Snyder laughed.
BG was a cool guy
Didn't start in UK. Started in US with Iggy, Dolls and Ramones.
Weller was so ahead of his time.
Now that's laughable, Paul's sitting there looking like Steve Marriott out of 60's band The Small Faces. Who he was influenced by and many other 60's bands and that era of clothes and music.
Tom Synder was great and easy to watch. He always had the 'unusual'. The Punk scene and new-wave was so much fun. If you were into it, you knew the 'whys'.
Kim Fowley was so bizarre, I mean really bizarre.
I didn't see Cheri or Jackie in the clip. Cheri left to go solo after a short time, but she really started with the band and gave it a 'face' - so to speak. In the beginning for the band, Cheri did a lot of lead vocals, and Jackie was the Runway's bass player.
Classic Kim Fowley! Great to see this interview again!
Loving JoanJett sooo much since Runaways days!
omg never realized how pretentious these people were... the journalists and the host Tom. lol
The Wedge Bill Graham was a concert promoter who took exception to certain groups using Nazi paraphernalia having fled Germany as a child during the war, his whole family was murdered. The rest of them were pretty pretentious though.
The Wedge Ignorant too saying that this started in England! Iggy Pop, The Velvet Underground and The Ramones started it. They’re extremely shallow about understanding it
It was brand new then. Most people didn't know a whole lot about it then. Tom Snyder was cool just for having these people on and discussing the subject. Who the heck else was interviewing Joan Jett at that time?
This is such a delightful clip
love both Runaways and The Jam...... legendary formations
Oh man, would loved to have seen The Jam at the Whisky in 77.
I would have much rather seen them in either ‘79 or ‘80. Setting Sons, Sound Affects time. That’s when they were really at their peak. Don’t get me wrong, I love stuff like “In The City”, but they got so much better when they started infusing their music with a more soulful sound.
Man, I’ll always have a crush on Joan Jett and grace slik. Two amazing female artists
Tom Synder always has great guests and in depth questions 😎✌
RIP miss your show Tom.
And none of those guys would have ever imagined that in about 2 1/2 yrs Joan's journey to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame would begin with the release of Bad Reputation followed by I Love Rock and Roll
Tame, sex pistols music were way more provocative
As if she or anyone else needed something as completely ridiculous and irrelevant as a “rock and roll hall of fame”. When are people going to finally realize that place is nothing more than a giant circle jerk wankfest for music industry scumbags and their disgusting little sycophants? Seriously, it has f***-all to do with actual rock and roll. These absurd inductions are nothing more than an excuse for all the industry sleazeballs to get together and jerk off each other’s egos, while they charge $10K a seat for anyone attending, and that includes friends and family of the bands they induct. Half the bands and artists that have been inducted are the furthest thing from rock and roll you can imagine, while actual, important rock and roll pioneers are completely ignored.
I just wish people would see that horrible place for what it actually is and quit acting like being inducted there is some kind of honor.
Paul Weller... hard to believe at 18 (!!!) he was writing such incredible music and profound lyrics. Absolute legend. (Joan is also cool.)
Thank you Mat . I stood right there in our den in Laguna Niguel as I was raised babysat by Joan and this is all my family these hardcore and true true the specimens Tex and the horse heads
We were holding our strength
The avengers had just begun she n I traded encouragement
Lee the lees I’m gonna get another Coach and tour . I hope I get to play again I hope I get to play with The Zeroes.
If this is poetry, it is stunning. I want to hear more. If it is a comment, it's a garbled mess. But as poetry----👍🔥
13:35 Kim Fowley, with all his campness and controversy, speaks some cold hard truth here. He clearly understood what the music was all about. I love how he calls Tom out for dismissing the music.
Yep.
Was this interview before or after Kim Fowley drugged and raped the bassist from the Runaways?
@@forbesmag1271 After. And the two music guys on the show, know who 'he was' and what is was accused of doing more than once.
si, realmente, como no hay mas entrevistas a joan jett en esa época? es buenisima!
Being a starving artist doesn't make you anti-establishment. Mindset and actions are what define who you are. If money or success change who you are and influence you to be a shallow person, that is what you then become, or were all along.
I love the debate or discussion about the difference between punk rock and new wave. There are similarities and differences. They similarly are for those that seek an alternative to rock and roll and other genres. There are also similarities in the subjects they sing about. The differences have to do with style and sound. In my opinion punk artists are: The Ramones, Patti Smith (I disagree with Bob), The Sex Pistols, Iggy Pop, The Clash, The Dead Boys and many others. New wave artists are: The Smiths, The Psychedelic Furs, The Cars, Elvis Costello, Devo and many others.
28:09 - "Y'know, whatever happens to us, you can download a song about it" -- 31 years before Napster was a thing.
Joan, had an eye to the future. She is amazing, she rocks! Still! 😎😍
“Whatever happens to us, YOU SIT DOWN AND WRITE A SONG ABOUT IT.” Sorry, no time travel. Love Joan though. Saw her at JFK.
Download? she said "write a song". The internet wasn't even a thing when this aired. Apple made it's first computer in 1978, but it didn't have any software or disk drives...lol. A calculator today has more memory...
Fowley called it with power pop wow 😮
We rarely ask questions twice here,well whoop Dee do.
I shouted, F+ck you out loud, when he said that condescending crap!
The Punk “fad” has influenced music profoundly for over 40 years. Joan Jett is a legend as well as a “house hold name”.
Pretty sure she’s in the rock and roll hall of fame now too. How’s that for karma
I was part of the punk movement in the late 70s in Los Angeles. Basically, if there was somebody talented enough to play a guitar solo, you couldn’t be a punk band you were a rock band.
2022 around the corner and yes the runaways and more specific Joan Jett have been a household name for decades.
40 years! Great stuff,love it.And if you were playing in L.A. Everyone went to Joan Jetts apartment! Cheers
People will say what they will about Tom Snyder - but, he gave more airtime to Punk-New Wave-Power Pop bands than any other TV show in America at a time when we were all struggling against the monster that was American Cream Cheese Radio. I'll gladly give Tom "kudos" for the exposure he gave our subversive Rock 'n' Roll revivalist movement in the States.
Joan sounds so different here. Nowadays she has a strong accent when she talks.
Lol cuz she moved to New York and developed the accent
I wish that there were more interviews on here with Tom Snyder.
+Jake Drew
Tom Snyder was my favorite TV-show interviewer. So relaxed & confident. Tom Snyder´s "Tomorrow Show" was my favorite one. He seemed to be a very nice & genuine guy too. RIP Tom Snyder (1936 - 2007).
+Mr. Blackwell He had quite the ego but he was/is actually rather likeable.
I see you have Peter Criss as your pic, so you must've seen Tom's interview with Kiss haha
He's an @$$
Dave La Violette same
Jesus, Paul was 19 going on 49. Incredibly mature.
Excellent interview.
It is really frustrating to hear Snyder and his guests conflate UK and US punk, and the New Wave scene, and worst of all, almost completely ignore its' antecedents. And treat both, punk and New Wave, as if they were brand new movements in 1978. Guess they hadn't really listened to the Bay City Rollers, or the Sonics, or the Velvet Underground; or seen Iggy Pop and the Stooges perform live; or heard any of (the) MC-5's early albums...
'Bay City Rollers'? ... 'Sonics' - 'Sonic Youth'?
@@hazelwray5307 No, not Sonic Youth. The Sonics, from Tacoma Washington. In the '60s, they were punk before punk was punk, haha. Look them up. Songs like Psycho, The Witch, Strychnine, etc. Gerry Roslie had a voice so powerful it could peel paint off the walls.
Paul Weller is a goddamn icon.
never seen this before but I think the best thing to happen to Joan Jett was this Kym POS "quitting" her! Joan is and always will be Fantastic! She's done so much more than this punk rock bullshit...
Being 18 in 1978 must have been fun. A lot of new and exciting stuff coming out.
Did u hear of the germs, they were around from like 77-82 that’s my favorite band and I found out Joan Jett produced their album
It was..
The Tomorrow show became this hip show at 1 AM... I remember it well. Tom admittedly knew nothing of the acts, that was half the fun.
Great interview, Joan was still a teenager but her world view was fully formed. She was dismissed by so many people, but the Runaways were fairly big in Australia and as Joan says massive in Japan.
Even in the interview, the other guests lauded Paul Weller, but barely acknowledged Joan.
I think Kim Fowley like Malcolm McLaren was a great ideas man, but could not see past the immediate impact of success.
She was lucky to have met Kenny Laguna, to push her ahead and stuck with her through the knock backs of not getting a record control with the major labels.
The industry in America was not ready for an all girl band in 1976.
Tìhe Go Go's in 1981 after years themselves struggling to get a foot in the door, finally broke through. And Joan in 1982 broke the charts wide open without compromising at all in her looks or style.
I love Joan Jett
Paul and Joan smoked a spliff before on air.I love this intetview.Bill Graham was a club promoter,not a record producer.Different era,Weller says Bowie and Townshend weren't millionares,lol,the kid was naieve,fantastic stuff..
Neither man was a millionaire in 1978.
@@jacksprat2178 Correct!