Thank you for this video. I just bought the raw brass LOK Grips backstrap and the raw brass magazine base plates for my PDP-F, and I needed instructions for the install since none are included with the item(s). Regarding your comment about the pistol being snappy - I ended up buying the PDP-F with 4” barrel because I did feel that the 3.5” model was too snappy for me. I can assure you that the 4” model is NOT snappy at all. I’ve been shooting IDPA matches with it for over a year now and I love it. My hits are in the Down 0 most of the time. A friend of mine installed the brass backstrap on her PDP-F and she claimed it really balanced the gun for her, so I decided to go for the minor upgrade. Not that I think the gun needed any balance, but I like the look of the brass and it gives me a more personalized firearm. Thanks again for your installation instructions and review!
I have the PDP compact.. I put Taylor Freelance brass magwell and their deathgrip backstraps, a ZR Tactical ultra mass guide rod and i use their basepads.. the recoil was deleted by a lot.. Im sure u can do something similar with the F series.. But with that said, a gun with a 3.5 inch barrel is going to be snappy, all sub compacts are snappy..
Walther barrels in all PDP's include a stepped chamber providing a better seal around the cartridge case within the chamber. This adds to the perceived recoil of the PDP. I swapped out the plastic guide rod assembly in my PDP-F 3.5 for ZR tactical captured spring kit (17lbs spring) and switched to 147gr which helped reduce or change the recoil impulse of the gun.
Get a DPM Systems guide rod and learn how to properly grip a PDP. You don’t grip it like a Glock or other pistols where you squeeze with your index and middle fingers, you squeeze with your ring and pinky. Loosely grip the gun with one hand and press up on the dust cover/pic rail with your other hand, where on the grip is the leverage point? Near the bottom. Also, it’s all in your head because you aren’t trusting that the muzzle will settle back to the spot it was previously. Walther’s are far more accurate than other comparable pistols, they are also faster. Trigger reset allows the pistol to be run faster. People loved to say the PPQ has a high bore axis, which causes it to be snappy. Same people also said the Beretta APX had a low bore axis. They are the exact same. PPQ also has a lower bore axis than the CZ-75. I’m not saying the APX or CZ-75 don’t shoot flatter for most people, but Walther has an equal or lower bore axis. But the F series shoots very flat for me, I can get so much of my hand under the slide. Think you’re just repeating what you’ve heard guys say on RUclips about Walther, and honestly, I haven’t heard anyone say the F series is snappy.
Apx original came with DPM system and not plastic but CZ also came with polymer. Beretta is just awesome but no one has budget DA/SA hammers with alloy frames like CZ but APX has a grip frame that feels like some soft alloy, not plastic. Heavier feeling
It definitely is snappy. I’ve got the same one (PDP F compact). My hands are a bit bigger so I swapped the back strap for a bigger one. I’m able to get a better grip on it now. That helped with recoil control.
This is the smallest of the PDP Female series, with that narrow grip and easy slide, but it will be snappy because it is a short barreled 9mm. The brass backstrap will do more to reduce recoil on the PDP compact and up.
Good review. I kind of figured that it wouldn't be really useful for reducing recoil because of the physics of how a gun recoils but it's nice to see an honest evaluation of it. The slide drives back against the web of your dominate hand. This creates a pivot point upon which the gun will rotate in recoil. Adding weight behind that pivot point down low is already creating moment that's pulling the gun down by the grip. The weight would need to be higher and further forward to reduce recoil in a perceivable manor. A WML mounted to the rail would be a larger benefit. I'll disagree with Ruggedmeetsrefined on the gun not being snappy (to me it is) but will agree with him on that it does fall back to POA and is much faster than other guns to return. Once you get a better grip and get comfortable on it's return to POA it isn't a bad gun. It just takes time to get used to fast recoil impulse. I have changed my recoil spring out to the Springco system. It does improve it a little bit but not enough to be comparable to a Glock or Beretta 92.
I also have the 4" f series. Do you have links to which ones you bought? I shot a full size pdp at the range twice and both times it was way better than mine. Didn't even feel snappy. 2nd time I noticed the back strap was thicker and that played a major role in why I liked it better than mine. The trigger was better to on the full size
DPM spring. Most felt recoil in a 9mm is the slide bottoming out at the end of the cycle and pulling the front of the pistol up. DPM adds a 3rd internal spring inside that activates at the last part of the total travel and prevents this from happening. These springs have come standard in higher end and custom guns for years. They have tested them and have round counts on them beyond comprehension and they still function 100%. I will never own anything that they don’t manufacture a spring for. Great news is for the F series PDP, they make a captured version for it. I promise you will feel and see immediate results. It is the snap remover. It will also extend the like of your firearm. They make one for the 3.5 and the 4”. Good luck. These pistols are legit.
The PDP-F is a bit snappy, but not terrible. Honestly though, the first thing you should've done was get rid of the plastic guide rod and get a steel (or if you're lucky enough to find it) the tungsten guide rod from Walther. I personally went with BT Guide Rods. Aside from that, learning how to manage recoil will go a long way in mitigating that problem. From 10-15 yards out, I can get a fist sized group with my 4" PDP-F, and I don't have the greatest recoil management myself, but I get by. I am trying to work on that problem though.
The first handgun I ever shot was a full size pdp. All I hear people say is it’s snappy. Again first time shooting a handgun was the pdp and I had fairly accurate groupings. I know the pdp has been tested and has high perceived/felt recoil, yet has significantly less muzzle rise than other pistols (glocks, caniks, sigs etc.). You have the f series and it’s a smaller gun-all of which tend to be snappy.
@@jasonramsey8518good luck finding that. Walther rep said use 1/8th. after i did i realized this was a bigger punch size. i hope i didn't ruin my then vigin fire arm.
my P365 is more snappy then the PDP F, compact. its a small light weight polymer gun. some snappy is expected. you should buy a steel gun or get your F ported.
6:10 is where the part you came here to see starts
Thank you for this video. I just bought the raw brass LOK Grips backstrap and the raw brass magazine base plates for my PDP-F, and I needed instructions for the install since none are included with the item(s). Regarding your comment about the pistol being snappy - I ended up buying the PDP-F with 4” barrel because I did feel that the 3.5” model was too snappy for me. I can assure you that the 4” model is NOT snappy at all. I’ve been shooting IDPA matches with it for over a year now and I love it. My hits are in the Down 0 most of the time. A friend of mine installed the brass backstrap on her PDP-F and she claimed it really balanced the gun for her, so I decided to go for the minor upgrade. Not that I think the gun needed any balance, but I like the look of the brass and it gives me a more personalized firearm. Thanks again for your installation instructions and review!
I have the PDP compact.. I put Taylor Freelance brass magwell and their deathgrip backstraps, a ZR Tactical ultra mass guide rod and i use their basepads.. the recoil was deleted by a lot.. Im sure u can do something similar with the F series..
But with that said, a gun with a 3.5 inch barrel is going to be snappy, all sub compacts are snappy..
Walther barrels in all PDP's include a stepped chamber providing a better seal around the cartridge case within the chamber. This adds to the perceived recoil of the PDP. I swapped out the plastic guide rod assembly in my PDP-F 3.5 for ZR tactical captured spring kit (17lbs spring) and switched to 147gr which helped reduce or change the recoil impulse of the gun.
Get a DPM Systems guide rod and learn how to properly grip a PDP. You don’t grip it like a Glock or other pistols where you squeeze with your index and middle fingers, you squeeze with your ring and pinky. Loosely grip the gun with one hand and press up on the dust cover/pic rail with your other hand, where on the grip is the leverage point? Near the bottom. Also, it’s all in your head because you aren’t trusting that the muzzle will settle back to the spot it was previously. Walther’s are far more accurate than other comparable pistols, they are also faster. Trigger reset allows the pistol to be run faster. People loved to say the PPQ has a high bore axis, which causes it to be snappy. Same people also said the Beretta APX had a low bore axis. They are the exact same. PPQ also has a lower bore axis than the CZ-75. I’m not saying the APX or CZ-75 don’t shoot flatter for most people, but Walther has an equal or lower bore axis. But the F series shoots very flat for me, I can get so much of my hand under the slide. Think you’re just repeating what you’ve heard guys say on RUclips about Walther, and honestly, I haven’t heard anyone say the F series is snappy.
Or get a CZ or beretta …. Apx was my first and nothing has beat it until my very last, the cz75 p-01…. Walther lacks a certain quality
Apx original came with DPM system and not plastic but CZ also came with polymer. Beretta is just awesome but no one has budget DA/SA hammers with alloy frames like CZ but APX has a grip frame that feels like some soft alloy, not plastic. Heavier feeling
It definitely is snappy. I’ve got the same one (PDP F compact). My hands are a bit bigger so I swapped the back strap for a bigger one. I’m able to get a better grip on it now. That helped with recoil control.
This is the smallest of the PDP Female series, with that narrow grip and easy slide, but it will be snappy because it is a short barreled 9mm. The brass backstrap will do more to reduce recoil on the PDP compact and up.
Good review. I kind of figured that it wouldn't be really useful for reducing recoil because of the physics of how a gun recoils but it's nice to see an honest evaluation of it. The slide drives back against the web of your dominate hand. This creates a pivot point upon which the gun will rotate in recoil. Adding weight behind that pivot point down low is already creating moment that's pulling the gun down by the grip. The weight would need to be higher and further forward to reduce recoil in a perceivable manor. A WML mounted to the rail would be a larger benefit. I'll disagree with Ruggedmeetsrefined on the gun not being snappy (to me it is) but will agree with him on that it does fall back to POA and is much faster than other guns to return. Once you get a better grip and get comfortable on it's return to POA it isn't a bad gun. It just takes time to get used to fast recoil impulse. I have changed my recoil spring out to the Springco system. It does improve it a little bit but not enough to be comparable to a Glock or Beretta 92.
Bought the PDP F 4"....it is snappy. I added the LOK backstrap a Sprinco guide rod and it was a game changer.
I also have the 4" f series. Do you have links to which ones you bought?
I shot a full size pdp at the range twice and both times it was way better than mine. Didn't even feel snappy. 2nd time I noticed the back strap was thicker and that played a major role in why I liked it better than mine.
The trigger was better to on the full size
DPM spring. Most felt recoil in a 9mm is the slide bottoming out at the end of the cycle and pulling the front of the pistol up. DPM adds a 3rd internal spring inside that activates at the last part of the total travel and prevents this from happening. These springs have come standard in higher end and custom guns for years. They have tested them and have round counts on them beyond comprehension and they still function 100%. I will never own anything that they don’t manufacture a spring for. Great news is for the F series PDP, they make a captured version for it. I promise you will feel and see immediate results. It is the snap remover. It will also extend the like of your firearm. They make one for the 3.5 and the 4”. Good luck. These pistols are legit.
The PDP-F is a bit snappy, but not terrible. Honestly though, the first thing you should've done was get rid of the plastic guide rod and get a steel (or if you're lucky enough to find it) the tungsten guide rod from Walther. I personally went with BT Guide Rods. Aside from that, learning how to manage recoil will go a long way in mitigating that problem. From 10-15 yards out, I can get a fist sized group with my 4" PDP-F, and I don't have the greatest recoil management myself, but I get by. I am trying to work on that problem though.
I was wondering if the 4" model is a little smoother than the 3.5".
The first handgun I ever shot was a full size pdp. All I hear people say is it’s snappy. Again first time shooting a handgun was the pdp and I had fairly accurate groupings. I know the pdp has been tested and has high perceived/felt recoil, yet has significantly less muzzle rise than other pistols (glocks, caniks, sigs etc.). You have the f series and it’s a smaller gun-all of which tend to be snappy.
Well you bought the 'F' series 'female' friendly version try the normal compact and feel the difference
Those snappy 9mm’s 😂😂
Love my PDP Pro
Just shot and purchased this yesterday. It wasn’t snappy at all with 115 gr range bullets. Maybe it’s your grip.
I don’t find it snappy at all.
My 4 inch PDP F is certainly snappier than my S&W Shield plus. That is a fact. The Walther is also 6oz heavier.
It's snappy for sure. Nothing horrible at all, just surprisingly snappy.
Love my pdp f not snappy at all imo
Interesting video. Thanks
Does anybody know what size roll pin punch to use to remove the back strap?
7/64” (3mm) punch
@@jasonramsey8518good luck finding that. Walther rep said use 1/8th. after i did i realized this was a bigger punch size. i hope i didn't ruin my then vigin fire arm.
my P365 is more snappy then the PDP F, compact. its a small light weight polymer gun. some snappy is expected. you should buy a steel gun or get your F ported.
lol it’s not snappy your just either gripping it wrong or you have a weak grip…
Snappy! 🤔
Can't handle 9mm recoil on a compact gun. Maybe hit the gym little guy.
You're so strong bro. You must now only shoot .357 magnum or else, shut the fuck up
DPM Recoil system thank me later.