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If that was the case, then why would reactors post anything? 😂Not everything is reacted to at the time of release, or very close to it. We're all equally as glad that you've posted your reactions to this series because they are golden. Thank you
@@AmericanMumReactsalso worth mentioning, one of the actresses who played one of the nurses also played that nurse in the game, though she would later go on to play a more prominent character in part 2.
It’s really crucial for Ellie’s character everything that happened with David. It’s so easy to see her killing him as a win, and even easier to forget that she is just a little girl. Being fourteen and having to butcher a man alive because he tried to rape you doesn’t get any easier just because the world ended, and I think that Bella Ramsey perfectly showed how something like that could take the light out of someone. Even months after, it doesn’t take much effort at all to see how it impacted Ellie and essentially took the last of her innocence from her.
Yeah, I find a lot of people running into the "Why is Ellie being so reclusive?" comment. But I imagine chopping a man's head apart after a near-r*pe experience with a cleaver, would leave anyone stunned and disturbed for years, let-alone a child. That will likely stick with her for life.
It's everything that she lived through these last few months. Craig (or Neil, can't remember which one) said that they didn't want Joel to save her like he does in the game, and every single time she hits David, it's not just for what he's done to her. It's like all the pent up rage, and hurt, and fear and everything else she has kept bottled inside. "THIS IS FOR RILEY AND THIS ONE IS FOR TESS AND THIS ONE IS FOR HENRY AND THIS IS FOR SAM AND ANOTHER FOR SAM AND ANOTHER ONE FOR SAM AND THIS IS FOR SARAH AND THIS IS FOR ME AND FOR ME AND FOR ME AND FOR ME". Sometimes, we have to act like things don't affect us but at one point, everything just... explodes... and then we're left... numb, and hurt, and we can't pretend anymore... and I believe this is what happened to Ellie. David was just the snap that broke her, but it's not all that broke her
@@toukie I could be completely reading this wrong regards not wanting Joel to be the one to save her, but, just in case, I just want to point out that the scene with Ellie hacking David was pretty much exactly how it went in the game. Only difference as far as I remember is that Joel comes in right at the end of her hacking him, rather than that "baby girl" interaction happening out in the snow. I do however like the thought that each swing meant something, and that she saved herself, as I think it shows that when needed, she can take care of herself
I was just flabbergasted that Marlene just up and forgot it was Joel she was speaking to. She knew how he was, and thought he was just going to walk away and let himself be escorted out. Nope. He went in like the Terminator sweeping out the police station.
Joel and Ellie were never supposed to bond. When Marlene roped Joel into bringing Ellie to the fireflies, it was supposed to take a few hours. Joel was a heavily traumatized man at the start of this. He would've left Ellie to die if Tess hadn't made him promise to get her to the Fireflies somewhere else.
Think of the person Marlene knew Joel to be before the events of the show. The version of Joel she knew would never have bonded with the little girl she was handing over. He's a hardened smuggler, a dangerous man, and shows little emotion or attachment to people. Honestly, the perfect candidate for a job like this. To Marlene, Ellie would always just be cargo to Joel. I think only in the hospital room where Joel basically says, "please, you don't understand," and, "I can do something about it," she gets her first hint that Joel has grown attached. You can see it in her facial expression as the guards haul Joel off to leave the building. She feels guilty when she picks up on the small hint, but I don't think she ever expected him to react as harshly as he did. She highly underestimated his emotional capacity, understandably. Old Joel would never have fought for this girl. We also know that Marlene feels very indebted to Joel for bringing them the cure; she doesn't want to punish him in any way, so I think she takes the gamble and hopes he leaves peacefully. I think ultimately Marlene is a good person, or at least she has good intentions generally, so I can see why she wouldn't want to kill or imprison Joel.
@@brewerthecrook3989 And that hardened smuggler took the job expecting to be well compensated, not getting knocked out and then kicked out onto the street with nothing but his backpack and Ellie's knife. We know something like that would have been enough for Joel and Tess to kill someone over.
@@MatthijsvanDuin True, I never thought about the payment aspect of the deal at the end from Marlene's eyes. Marlene does say she owes Joel big time, implying she will compensate him in the future, but seems like she can't pay it at the moment for whatever reason. I think paying some of that debt off was letting him walk free even though he mildly threatened her. edit: They skip the line in the show, but in the game Marlene says, "don't waste this gift, Joel." Suggesting that letting him walk is doing a favor for him, against her better judgement.
@@brewerthecrook3989 lol yeah I'm sure he felt super grateful and appreciated. No sorry, she handled the situation really poorly and could have expected consequences even if he didn't get attached to Ellie, and it's pretty obvious people are going to get attached if they travel cross-country together for such a long time. More generally, everything about how the fireflies handled things upon Joel and Ellie's arrival was inexcusable. They acted immorally and incompetently and their bad decisions resulted in their demise.
They thing Ellie wanted Joel to swear about at the end was specifically the whole hospital situation he lied about. So going into season 2 there’s a huge lie looming between them.
In episode 1, Joel swears “on his life” to get a cake the next day… Tess promises Robert she wasn’t gonna sic Joel on him… In episode 3, Ellie promises to follow Joel’s instructions… In episode 5, Ellie swears to stay awake with Sam… In episode 7, Joel says Ellie “deserved a choice”… In episode 9, Marlene promises to keep Ellie safe… Joel swears *again* that he told Ellie the truth about what happened in SLC… There’s a strong undercurrent of broken promises throughout the season.
I know it’s an apocalypse but my only problem is that they didn’t ask Ellie personally if she wanted to go through with it. Consent is key. I know Ellie would have said yes anyway, but just gassing her and putting her under without telling her the truth wasn’t it. It’s been a hell of a ride American mum. 😂🎉❤. Thank you for the reactions
they probably didnt want to risk her saying no and then having that on their conscience because thats what they care about. As long as she seems willing with the bare context that’s all they needed 😭
Yes, they violated her bodily autonomy. Some people think that she is not old enough to make that decision, but I disagree. I think she's the only one who could make that decision.
Yeah there's no way Marlene would have asked Ellie at all. They would not risk getting "no" for an answer. They see Ellie as their 1 and only shot at this. Consent was never an option.
I understand why both sides didn't want to ask her. Because both (Marlene and Joel) were scared to hear the opposite of what they want and both would have done it their way anyway. But you, as audience/player know Ellie at this point very well. And so you know what she would have wanted. That's the whole point. And Joel and Marlene both knew it too, because they knew here as well... It is not about asking her or not. It's about perspective and the dark side of love
We love our Ellies! Bella was amazing again and so awesome to see Ashley. Both of them have stated that Eliie would have 100% chosen to die there for a chance at the cure, that's why Joel couldn't take the chance of her wanting to go back. Loved seeing your reaction to these, enjoyed going on this journey again with someone new to the storey. Enjoyed your discussions too, nice to see someone this engaged with a storey I love so much. Glad you liked the giraffe, his name is Nabo, and you can feed him too if you ever visited our local zoo where this was filmed. Also forgot to mention the behind the scenes specials (one for every episode, 5-ish minutes each, and one 30min special for the whole season), along with the podcasts (one per episode, hosted by Joel's game actor and featuring the two show runners Craig and Neil, and occasional guests).
The thing to keep in mind about Joel is that he is a deeply complicated character. They all are. Joel is a great father, but he is not a good man. What happened the night Sarah died broke him, and what he did to survive after that twisted him up inside. He is, above all, a man who will do whatever is necessary to survive and keep those he loves safe, even if it means killing innocent people. That part of him never changed.
When left with an impossible choice, he acted as a father, and stayed true to what a couple of his old friends has told him: Tess: "Save who you can save." Bill: "and god help any motherfrakker who gets in our way" As a father myself, having to choose between a child of mine and a hypothetical chance at a cure. I'm saving my child.
@@AmericanMumReacts Last of Us blew me away as a game and I can't believe how great they did with the first season. The second and third seasons are suppose to cover Last of Us 2. It was as good a game as the first one!
Ellie is wicked smart and intuitive, so when she asked Joel to swear to her about what happened, you can tell by the look on her face that she knows he’s lying. But I also believe she realizes why. I’m with Joel on getting Ellie back, regardless.
I think Ellie for sure knows Joel is lying to her-and what really has her upset is that he 1) took away her choice and 2) took away her purpose: she believed she was the cure and meant to save everyone, and now that’s gone. Joel was thinking of Bill’s letter (“that’s why men like you and me are here-we have a job to do, and God help any mfuckers who stand in our way.”) and Ellie is thinking about what Maria told her (the only people who can betray us are the ones we trust). It’s sad that from here on out, their relationship will change forever. This is why this story and these characters are so amazing!
American Mum's Deepest Fear: Giraffe!!!! Season two is coming in 2025. From what I understand (what I heard about the game) there is another big time jump from one part to the other. This one freaked me out. As a parent, I can totally see slipping into a murderous rage to save my child. And at this point, she IS Joel's daughter.
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if they follow the game to the bone(which we have no reason to believe they wont) Ellie is 14 years old in season 1, and 19 in season 2, so there will be effectively a 5 year jump.
This must have taken place at least about two months after the last episode. There wasn't a speck of snow. So was this new dynamic with chatty Joel and quiet Ellie been going on that whole time, or was she just having an extra quiet day like Joel said? I think Marlene knew full well what she was doing when she sent Joel off with just those two guys. You could almost see it on her face as the three of them walked past her out the door. She was kind of looking for someone to take the guilt away from her. She was definitely letting Joel go and he knew full well he could have left without killing her. Also, he did leave the two nurses alive so, the Fireflies will know what happened. They also know Tommy, so they are bound to look there. I think it wouldn't have ended up mattering to either Joel or Marlene what Ellie's decision would have been. They both would have ended doing what they thought was best. I believe Ellie would have gone through with it. I don't think going in she thought it would mean sacrificing herself, I think she, like Joel, just thought they needed her blood. But I think she would definitely have still gone through with it. As she said to Joel, what would have been the point of everything she had been through? There's no halfway with this. We finish what we started. He may very well have doomed all of humanity. QZs aren't the answer. We know at least the Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Chicago and KC QZs are all gone. He killed that doctor. How many of them that knew how to do this were there even before the apocalypse? Joel was basically Kathleen at that point. What are the odds that someone else gave birth while being bitten by a clicker, they werent killed by the clicker, and then immediately cut the cord? Even so, what is the exact amount of time you would have to wait to cut the cord before too much of the cordyceps were transferred? Marlene didn't even know Ellie was immune until she was bit 14 years later.
Did you miss the part where Marlene said the doctor "hopes" he can culture the cells and make a cure? Maybe in our 2023 with all the medical and scientific advances they could do it, but in post-apocalyptic 2023? Let's be realistic about it - no way. And on the 1 in a million chance it works, you still have Fedra and infected and raiders and cannibals that can kill you. You're right though, QZs aren't working. Places like Jackson are. You get cooperative groups living in fortified places that are willing to put in what it takes to keep the place safe, and you have the future of humanity. The world temperatures go down because global warming has stopped. This strain of fungus dies out when the infected die and/or when humanity learns what kills it. The US at least has groups of people who know how to work together as a whole from living in places like Jackson all their lives, and they gradually take back the world over hundreds of years. It's not a quick fix, but it leaves the world a better place overall. And it doesn't require sacrificing a child to hopefully, maybe, if things are very lucky, and if they could replicate it enough, cure that wouldn't stop people from dying in many other ways. The only thing Joel did wrong was not telling Ellie the truth.
This is the episode I was talking about in my comment under episode 5, the Sam & Henry episode; the things that love will make you do, the lengths you’ll go to. Last episode & this episode, we see why that guy from episode 1, the one who captured Tess, was so afraid of Joel. This was such a conflicting episode for me.
At first, I hated that Joel lies to Ellie, but I thought about it since then. I think that, since he made the decision for Ellie regarding the cure, then the least hurtful course of action after that is to lie. Doing so, he tries to give her some time of innocent happiness as a teenager in Jackson (before she possibly finds out), instead of a most probably broken relationship and a failed destiny feeling right from the beginning. That's why, in my mind, it is even more important that he swears at the end, so Ellie will believe him.
Thanks for the reactions to all the episodes Mum. They were great and like I said before I’m just so happy that people who are not gamers or didn’t play the game got to experience this amazing story. As a father I would have done the same as Joel except I wouldn’t have lied to her. The trust was broken because in her heart she knew he was lying but couldn’t bring herself to admit it. I think you said that you watched the Inside The Episodes after each episode. I’ve heard so many people say that they didn’t expect anything like this story to come from a video game, and not only that but that they stayed so faithful to the game and how some of it was basically scene for scene and/or line for line. It shows you just how good the game was, both in writing and cinematic style. I thought Pedro and Bella were perfect for the roles of Joel and Ellie and their chemistry was off the charts, and it is the same off screen as they have developed a father/daughter dynamic off screen as well. The interviews they do together are hilarious. It’s just so natural for them. Thanks again Mum. It was an entertaining and emotional journey. One more thing. Have you watched Chernobyl? If not, it’s a limited series on HBO, five episodes. It was written and produced by Craig Mazin. Definitely give it a watch. It’s amazing and won over ten Emmy Awards. I would love to see your reaction to that, and if you’ve already done it I’ll go look for it now and delete this last paragraph 😂.
Bet you didn't know you were following a bad guy this episode. For all intents and purposes, Joel is the villain this episode. He shoots, he kills mercilessly and lies to someome he cares about multiple times in a row. And I like this kind of, saying: Good guys do things for others, Bad guys do things for themselves. Joel did this for himself. Not others, not the world, and not for Ellie, he did it for himself and no one else. Which makes him an interesting character. One of the most interesting characters, not just video game characters, ever made.
As Henry said: "I'm the bad guy, 'cause I did the bad guy thing.". There is nuance because life is shades of grey, but objectively, Joel did the "bad guy thing". I don't blame him in the slightest given who he is, but the Firefly Massacre would have been horrifying to anyone outside of Joel.
I kind of look at it this way, Marlene did the wrong thing (violating Ellies bodily autonomy)for the right reasons, and Joel did the right thing (taking Ellie out of there) for selfish reasons.
she has doubts about what happened at the hospital so she asks him to swear what he told her was true. there is a second game which they want to make into 2 more seasons. probably around 2024-25 lol
That last scene is so devastating and tragic. Tommy's wife says that the only people who can betray us are the people we trust. In that final scene, Joel betrays Ellie, and she knows he has. Their relationship is broken.
To be fair to Marlene, she didn't know about the surgery back in Boston. So she didn't lie or not tell them the full story. She just knew Ellie was immune and could be the answer. It was the doc who figured out how exactly the immunity was working and what he'd have to do to make a vaccine. I don't agree w what Joel did - the intention is that the vaccine would work if they had a chance to make it, but Joel sacrifices the rest of humanity to save Ellie. But I 100% understand why he did it. He just regained his own humanity and he cannot lose another daughter. He simply cannot. There is no choice for him. But I don't agree with it. But I also don't agree with Marlene and the fireflies. Ellie would for sure have chosen to do the surgery. She's a tough little badass and would totally sacrifice herself for humanity, but they didn't give her a chance to choose that. They should have told her the situation and allowed her to give informed consent (or decline, but imo no way she would decline). But they didn't. Everyone sucks here except for Ellie.
@@Sc-dd6hb in real life i would say you're right. more would need to be done and checked about the science. and afaik real science says a vaccine or cure like this isn't really possible in this circumstance. BUT. in the scope of the fiction and all pretend science of the game, the intention is that the cure would actually work. that's why the stakes of what joel does are so huge.
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if the producers follow the game to the bone for season 2(which we have no reason to believe they wont) Ellie is 19 years old in season 2, she is 14 now so there will be effectively a 5 year jump. And yes, both Bella and Pascal will be on season 2, 100%. One of the reasons they casted Bella is her age, 19 which goes in line with what waits for season 2
I always think that this episode delivered you the feeling of relieved. Everything is settle here between Joel and Ellie, they open to each other. Can I just say that they officialy Father and Daughter.
I've seen a fair few reactors yell at the screen at the point where Marlene tells the guy to "cover her ears" and he just looks at her stupidly and does absolutely NOTHING. he had ONE job in that moment. lol That was like the hardest fail ever. lol.
Oh! No spoilers for game 2/future seasons. There will be at least 2 more season to adapt game 2. It's a much longer game, no way to do it in one. And, without spoilers, I can confirm Bella and Pedro will be able to continue their roles. Bella is petite and youthful looking, but is 19 currently. There is some passage of time throughout the game, but it's nothing like the 20yr jump at the start of the show. They are good to go for at least the next 2-3 seasons.
I played the game when it came out and I really liked the show. Two things I’d like to say though. What I don’t like is the show inferring that there could be more ellies. As in more pregnant mothers could be bitten while giving birth and eventually the same situation could happen. This makes Joel’s actions a better argument even if he doesn’t know about this. This whole sequence is not in the game lol I also think one thing people forget is that Ellie saved Joel’s life twice. Maybe that isn’t his primary reason for saving her. But put yourself in his situation and ask yourself what you would do knowing that. The whole debate today about whether Joel is right or wrong seems to miss this basic human desire to reciprocate.
What Joel did was selfish, no question. Ellie would have sacrificed herself, even if there was just a chance of a cure. Joel knew that. But he wasn't gonna let that happen because he wasn't gonna lose another daughter. The ultimate selfish act ...and I would have done exactly the same thing.
@@AmericanMumReacts Then keep away from anything and everything related to this show or you WILL get spoiled. The plot is well known and it is everywhere.
When Naughty Dog play tested the game, most people were 50/50 on Joel’s actions in SLC. 100% of play testers *that were parents* agreed with Joel’s actions, including the lie at the end.
I love Part 2 way more then part 1, even tho I know what is coming, it don't bother me tbh. I liked season 1 but none of the characters stood out for me, everyone was great tho. Abby is still my favourite charater
It took me a while to let myself like Abby, for obvious reasons, but she did grow on me. Ellie will always have a special place in my heart. Can't wait to see what they are going to do for TLOU 3
Shes most likely traumatized by David first trying to kill her, then trying to seggsually assault her, and her hacking him to a pulp. The game hints more to it (Ellie stearing at a picture of a deer in salt lake city). Also youre right, shes also extra quiet cause journey is coming to an end
If he's a villain for saving Ellie then basically all human beings are fundamentally villains at heart. I would have done the exact same as him in that situation. Once Marlene told him she was going to murder Ellie without giving her a choice, he was always going to try and save her. Especially after Ellie told him a few hours earlier she wanted to go back and live with him afterwards.
@@MrPicklerwoof that’s the point, that we are never all good or all bad. It’s not that he’s a big bad guy it’s about how people can see someone as the villain in their story whilst others see him as a good guy. The way the game shows him as the main character makes us understand why he did certain things and makes us see him in a good light. Even before he met Ellie they say multiple times that Joel did some bad things. People were scared of him.
I find different reactions very interesting. I was like you, siding with Joel immediately, thinking "do whatever you have to do to save her, even if that means killing the surgeon who could make a cure" ... Then you've got others who disagree and say Joel was selfish to save ONE person and thus allow this infection to never end and kill thousands more. The more I've thought about it, the more I can understand BOTH sides. In the end, I've concluded that the decision should have been up to Ellie. They ALL should have sat down and quietly discussed this as a GROUP. And if she went forward with it, give her time. Don't rush it, even if she says to get it over with. No. Give it a week or two so she can think if this is what she truly wants. Also allows her to spend time with Joel and Marlene because she cares about both of them. Marlene and the rest of the fireflies rushing it, basically taking away Joel and Ellies goodbyes (had Ellie wanted that) was what lead to this whole mess. Marlene should have known better. Two individuals, traveling together for 6 months and going through all they went through, you're going to form a bond to some degree. Marlene overlooked their relationship, and it ruined any chance of a cure.
"Tess would be so proud of you" I don't think she would be. Because she asked him to "set everything right" about all the shit they've done. So for Tess, I believe it's like Ellie said 'It can't be for nothing'. So I do believe that yes, Tess would have sacrificed Ellie to save everybody else. She might not have liked doing it, she might have hated herself for it, but I think she would've done it. Or at least given Ellie the choice. But then again, who would put a choice like that in the hands of an emotional smartass 14 year old? And that is the beauty of the last of us. It's learning how to view things from other people's point of view. We followed Joel and Ellie along so we don't want Ellie to die and we don't care that Joel killed everybody in his way. And if he would've been too late, we would have cheered while he avenged her. However, when Kathleen was on a mission to avenge her brother Michael, we were all telling her to get over it and leave Henry and Sam alone. I wouldn't have been able to sacrifice my best friend's son to save mankind. He is the love of my life. However, to save him? If someone else was immune and could be the cure but it would mean their death? Get that ficker on the table and slice his brain, I want my best friend's child protected. I liked watching this along with you. Thank you for sharing it with us
Tess would most likely not be happy with him at all. She begged Joel to take Ellie not to save Ellie, but to save the world. Joel effectively chose Ellie over all humanity. Joel managed to become the bad guy.
Had Joel not interrupted Ellie while she told him about Riley, and not let her say how she felt, he probably wouldn't have had to lie to her because she probably wouldn't have asked him to swear to her he's not lying, which she knew he was lying but gave him the benefit of the doubt and he ended that trust then and there but she refuses to face that truth because she loves him and isn't ready to have that kind of relationship with him so she accepts the lie.
Marlene swears Ellie is immune because the infected thinks she is infected, but later says eventually Ellie would be "ripped apart by the infected". Just shows that Marlene really didn't have the evidence to back up why the surgery would have been justified.
The Infected attack her because she hasn't been turned, but once the fungus enters her bloodstream, it finds the chemical markers Marlene was talking about. That then deactivates the new fungus because it appears she is already infected. Which she is, she's just not symptomatic. Marlene's point was that it would be better for Ellie to have an easy death and possibly save humanity in the process rather than have her be shot/beaten/assaulted by Raiders (or physically damaged to the point of death in an attack by the Infected).
There will be a Season 2, but because of the Writers Strike, they are saying it won't be until 2025. I hope that there wil be a ton of Golden Globes and Emmys coming first.You did a great Reacting job American Mum.
Ashley Johnson played Ellie in the game and Ellie’s mom in the series and had Ellie’s knife. Marlene is best friends with Ellie’s mom. Giraffe is real. Damn drs and fireflies not telling Ellie she’s not going to survive the procedure. Joel had to lie to Ellie. They went back to Tommy’s town.
I'm afraid that I cannot be as forgiving as you when it comes to Marlene!! I believe that Marlene knew right from the beginning that Ellie was going to have to be sacrificed!! When the monkey wrench got thrown in the works and Marlene got shot and she passed the task of transporting Ellie to Joel and Tess, she did not even fathom that Joel would actually become attached to Ellie the way he did!! In hindsight it would have been better for Marlene to have transported Ellie across the country herself!! I am 100% behind Joel doing what he did to save Ellie but I am definitely not one-hundred-percent about his lying to ELLIE about what happened!! We already know that Marlene did not tell Ellie that she was going to have to be sacrificed!! That's another reason that I'm not a big fan of Marlene because in her closing words to Joel she asked the question what "would Ellie want to do?" yet she didn't bother to ask her herself!!! But Marlene figured she couldn't afford to have Ellie refuse to be sacrificed so she didn't want to take that chance!! Joel on the other hand told his lie because he was afraid that Ellie WOULD agree to be sacrificed!! And after just having been healed after a 20-year wound and hole in him having been basically filled he could not allow it to be empty again!! That one there at the point of just about getting back to Tommy's place and he swears to the LIE again, I think you should have said the truth right there!! But the ultimate question that I take away from this series is this... Is a world that is willing to sacrifice the life of an innocent child to POSSIBLY save itself really worth saving???? Can't wait for season 2!!
The problem with the notion that her possible "cure" would save humanity, its not. There is no guarantees and there is no way to know if it would work.
There are in fiction. The story is asking what the right choice is, and in the show's universe the vaccine would have worked and it would have been given to everyone in the world. The question is: is that worth the life of one person. It's literally the trolley problem. You can't cop out and say 'I would derail the trolley'. No, you have to pick. Most people will side with Joel. But imagine you're literally anyone else in that world. You, your family, your loved ones, all had a shot at living without fear from the infected and that's taken away forever because of one guy saving one girl. Is that right? You're asked a question to consider between two absolutes. There's nothing clever about going 'I wouldn't pick'.
@@clarkmichaels822 This might sound silly but I think the covid pandemic but this into perspective a lot more for me. During the lockdowns I was desperate for them to make a vaccine. Desperate. Like a lot of people I was getting incredibly depressed not having my usual freedoms and not being able to live my life as normal - and that was just covid…imagine that times a thousand. The world has completely gone to shit and your likelihood of either dying because of another human or being torn to pieces by infected is extremely high. All you can do is try to survive day to day. Living in a post apocalyptic world like that, I cannot even begin to imagine how DESPERATE for a cure I would be. I would pretty much do anything. The whole “there’s no guarantee it would work” argument is pretty redundant to me because there’s no guarantee it wouldn’t work either? You won’t know either way until you try, that’s the problem. But I’m not a parent and I guess that invalidates my opinion for a lot of people. Lol
Before the mass infection Joel was a good, loving, but absent minded father. Afterwards, for 20 years Joel, Tess and his brother were frankly, despicable people. They were murderers, drug dealers, and perhaps kidnappers and torturers. Ellie became Joel's redemption. Yes, Marlene keeping the fact of Ellie's death was despicable as well, but let's not sugar coat what Joel was and is because of his love for Ellie. By the way, yes, there is a "Last Of Us" part 2, and there will perhaps be two more seasons of TLOU.
Joe goes full James Bond by the end to save Ellie ❤ I liked season 1, my only problem was there was little zombies. I know the writer said he didn't want to over do it like The Walking Dead but episodes 8 and 9 needed some tbh, both around the start of the episodes at least This show needs to be a game :)
I am a GP and I wish the Fireflies tried so many ways other than in the first solution to operate on Ellie and have her killed. At least wait and see if Ellie will give birth to her child. See if the child is immune or not. I will not kill the only immune people in this situation. Even if we believe that the process really gives them the vaccine, I think the Fireflies will become such a dictator group just as Catherine's group in episode 4 and 5. And also even if they really produce the vaccine, and they start giving it to people, imagine people like David get the vaccine and keep making the world a hell for so many people. I don't think I'd give the world a chance and let Ellie die in the process. On the other hand, we have to remember that Joel had a very rough experience starting his journey with Ellie. He lost Tess, Bill and Frank at the starting point. And remember what Tess said to him: save who you can save. And also Bill's letter explaining that Bill and Joel are the kind of men who protect their loved ones. Bill said this: that's what we did, we protect those we love. And God help any motherfucker who stands in our way. That is why Joel killed David's people to find out where they took Ellie, that is why Joel became Joel Wick in the hospital and brutally killed everyone. I am on Joel's side on this one even if it means sacrificing the world for it (saving Ellie). 🤣
What if you had a child in that world and Joel made it impossible for that child to ever be safe? Would you be so forgiving then? When your child got bit and turned, would you look them in the eye one last time and say 'it's okay, Joel just really loved Ellie'?
@@erinhaury5773 no, I mean if you want to observe Ellie as the only immune person, you can do so many other medical procedure including wait until Ellie is mature enough, then let she marry a man and have a child. Observe whether the child also has immunity or not. This way you can ensure that the immunity can be passed through child birth. And then try to find some other ways for the immunity to be passed onto other people. Don't just jump into killing the only immune person for an uncertain possibility of creating a vaccine
@@vladimirvanvhorno357 that completely ignores what Ellie may want. Did you forget that she is a lesbian and it is highly unlikely that she would be with a man to have a child?
@@cullenarthur8879 Ellie likes girl, I know that. But for the research for the cure to the infection I think Ellie would do anything that she can. Even sacrificing herself if needed. Just bearing a child from a man I think will be not as hard as sacrificing herself. And also my point is that there are so many options in medical procedures, do not choose the one procedure that will certainly kill the only immune person. Ellie having a child is also not a must, but they can research if the immunity can be passed down by genetics if Ellie wanted to have a baby with a man. That's what I thought
The music playing during Joel's raid is the theme of the show but it's so dark and sad because it's the death of all these guys with families that are depending on those chance of a cute, but it's also the death of Joel's humanity. Everything has a consequence and this is the driving force of the events of season 2. Sidenote, you should watch some RUclipsrs play the game so you can see what's different than the show.
It's funny, I actually think it's the complete opposite - Joel rediscovers his humanity thanks to Ellie which is why he has to save her. It was Marlene who lost her humanity towards Ellie when she decided to murder her without giving her the choice.
@@brianattyberry I guess it goes beyond what's "right" and "wrong". If I was in Joel's position and my daughter was about to be murdered, I'd have done the exact same thing. Ultimately, Marlene (and the doctor) initiated the whole incident themselves. They set up the scenario, whereas Joel was merely responding to it. I find it hard to criticise Joel really. It's much easier to criticise the unethical, inhumane approach by the Fireflies. Which isn't to say they're "wrong" as such, it all depends on perspective.
Just to add, it's the same music that plays while you're going through the hospital in the game, too. The soundtracks for Part I & II are easily some of the best gaming music out there.
The whole attempt was never in the game . In the game Joel is practically Superman. He has great hearing , great stamina, great aim. Joel knows Everything. In the show Joel is Mr. Average man. He is partially deaf in one ear. He has panic attacks. He has nightmares about "failing". He is slow. He is out of shape. He attempted self forever sleep. The difference between Game Joel and Show Joel is night and day.
The sheer arrogance when people actually say that. "I'm THE ONLY one who understands." You know who else said that exact same thing word for word?? THANOS!! lol.
@@cullenarthur8879 No. That's a cop-out. she was saying that to "put Joel in his place." That's why she emphasized "I was there when she was born." To essentially tell Joel that SGHE cares MORE about Ellie than HE does. But that's obvious bullshit. The ONLY thing Marlene cares about is herself first, the cure second, the rest of the world third and THEN Ellie. IF she truly cared about Ellie she would have given her the choice before just putting her asleep and not even bothering to tell her. Marlene is quite simply, a coward. Defending her self righteous "I'm the ONLY one who understands." is defending stupidity. It doesn't even matter if she's actually correct or not. that's not the point. the situation is irrelevant; I'm not talking about the situation, nor do I care about the situation. I'm talking about Marlene's arrogance and self entitled stupidity. she doesn't care about Ellie one bit. From day ONE she would have sacrificed her and called it "for the greater good" at the drop of a hat. Ellie was just research for the Fireflies. Nothing more. Why else do you think they kept her locked away?? It wasn't for her safety; it for theirs.
I have the Cure for this outbreak. We see Anna was in labor when she was infected and cut the cord on Ellie straight away. As such Ellie is immune. If Ellie was not gay and had a baby that child would be immune. So get a pregnant woman , when she goes into labor infect her just like Anna. Thirty or fourty of these cases and the next generation would be immune.
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*Joel is Ellie's blood father...* I calculated that Joel and Tess had lunch at Bill's when Ellie was exactly 1 year old. Joel knew Marlene and, accordingly, her best friend, they were a couple. When Marlin says, "I was there when Ellie was born," she seems to be saying by implication, "where were you when your daughter was born?". Joel understood this context, so when he takes Ellie up the hill, he compares Ellie to her half-sister Sarah.
I have corrected you on this before, that is not true. Neither the creators of the game or show said this. You are just making this up. I understand theorizing and having fun with the show, but you shouldn't just make stuff up.
@@cullenarthur8879 I'm willing to make a bet that Tommy will tell Ellie the truth about who her father is in the last episode of the third season of the show... you'll see, it will be so.
@@user-dk3pp2hj3v I seriously doubt it. I have never played the games, but nobody I have seen who has has said anything about this being true. The creators of the show would have had to make a huge change in the story for it to be true. And unnecessary in my opinion. Ellie is Joel's unofficially adopted daughter. It's unnecessary to make her his biological daughter.
@@cullenarthur8879 So you are ready to conclude a dispute remotely? Are you absolutely sure Joel isn't her biological father? Personally, I was finally convinced of their relationship, the reaction of the PSYCHOLOGIST. She said, after watching the whole series, that they even have the same psychotype, and then I watched Joel's dialogue with Marlene several times, and this is a clear hint.
the last of us part 2 is just wow. it leaves you broken at the end. no movie or tv show made me feel so broken. im not going to spoil it for you but i hate elie and joel in part 2
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Fun Fact: The actress that play's Ellie's Mother is the actress that play's Ellie in the Video Game.
Yes! I saw that in Behind the Scenes... so cool!
@@AmericanMumReactsalso worth mentioning, one of the actresses who played one of the nurses also played that nurse in the game, though she would later go on to play a more prominent character in part 2.
Yes we all know this already
@@kieronroberts4977 a lot of non-gamers wouldn't
It’s really crucial for Ellie’s character everything that happened with David. It’s so easy to see her killing him as a win, and even easier to forget that she is just a little girl. Being fourteen and having to butcher a man alive because he tried to rape you doesn’t get any easier just because the world ended, and I think that Bella Ramsey perfectly showed how something like that could take the light out of someone. Even months after, it doesn’t take much effort at all to see how it impacted Ellie and essentially took the last of her innocence from her.
Yeah, I find a lot of people running into the "Why is Ellie being so reclusive?" comment. But I imagine chopping a man's head apart after a near-r*pe experience with a cleaver, would leave anyone stunned and disturbed for years, let-alone a child. That will likely stick with her for life.
It's everything that she lived through these last few months. Craig (or Neil, can't remember which one) said that they didn't want Joel to save her like he does in the game, and every single time she hits David, it's not just for what he's done to her. It's like all the pent up rage, and hurt, and fear and everything else she has kept bottled inside. "THIS IS FOR RILEY AND THIS ONE IS FOR TESS AND THIS ONE IS FOR HENRY AND THIS IS FOR SAM AND ANOTHER FOR SAM AND ANOTHER ONE FOR SAM AND THIS IS FOR SARAH AND THIS IS FOR ME AND FOR ME AND FOR ME AND FOR ME". Sometimes, we have to act like things don't affect us but at one point, everything just... explodes... and then we're left... numb, and hurt, and we can't pretend anymore... and I believe this is what happened to Ellie. David was just the snap that broke her, but it's not all that broke her
@@toukie I could be completely reading this wrong regards not wanting Joel to be the one to save her, but, just in case, I just want to point out that the scene with Ellie hacking David was pretty much exactly how it went in the game. Only difference as far as I remember is that Joel comes in right at the end of her hacking him, rather than that "baby girl" interaction happening out in the snow. I do however like the thought that each swing meant something, and that she saved herself, as I think it shows that when needed, she can take care of herself
Ellie is dissociating. Natural psychological reaction to trauma (especially for a child).
I was just flabbergasted that Marlene just up and forgot it was Joel she was speaking to. She knew how he was, and thought he was just going to walk away and let himself be escorted out. Nope. He went in like the Terminator sweeping out the police station.
Joel and Ellie were never supposed to bond. When Marlene roped Joel into bringing Ellie to the fireflies, it was supposed to take a few hours. Joel was a heavily traumatized man at the start of this. He would've left Ellie to die if Tess hadn't made him promise to get her to the Fireflies somewhere else.
Think of the person Marlene knew Joel to be before the events of the show. The version of Joel she knew would never have bonded with the little girl she was handing over. He's a hardened smuggler, a dangerous man, and shows little emotion or attachment to people. Honestly, the perfect candidate for a job like this. To Marlene, Ellie would always just be cargo to Joel. I think only in the hospital room where Joel basically says, "please, you don't understand," and, "I can do something about it," she gets her first hint that Joel has grown attached. You can see it in her facial expression as the guards haul Joel off to leave the building. She feels guilty when she picks up on the small hint, but I don't think she ever expected him to react as harshly as he did. She highly underestimated his emotional capacity, understandably. Old Joel would never have fought for this girl. We also know that Marlene feels very indebted to Joel for bringing them the cure; she doesn't want to punish him in any way, so I think she takes the gamble and hopes he leaves peacefully. I think ultimately Marlene is a good person, or at least she has good intentions generally, so I can see why she wouldn't want to kill or imprison Joel.
@@brewerthecrook3989 And that hardened smuggler took the job expecting to be well compensated, not getting knocked out and then kicked out onto the street with nothing but his backpack and Ellie's knife. We know something like that would have been enough for Joel and Tess to kill someone over.
@@MatthijsvanDuin True, I never thought about the payment aspect of the deal at the end from Marlene's eyes. Marlene does say she owes Joel big time, implying she will compensate him in the future, but seems like she can't pay it at the moment for whatever reason. I think paying some of that debt off was letting him walk free even though he mildly threatened her.
edit: They skip the line in the show, but in the game Marlene says, "don't waste this gift, Joel." Suggesting that letting him walk is doing a favor for him, against her better judgement.
@@brewerthecrook3989 lol yeah I'm sure he felt super grateful and appreciated. No sorry, she handled the situation really poorly and could have expected consequences even if he didn't get attached to Ellie, and it's pretty obvious people are going to get attached if they travel cross-country together for such a long time.
More generally, everything about how the fireflies handled things upon Joel and Ellie's arrival was inexcusable. They acted immorally and incompetently and their bad decisions resulted in their demise.
Mum, the actress, Ashley Johnson who played Anna in the opening scene played Ellie in The Last of Us video games I & II.
The delivery of that line "it wasn't time that did it" and the looks they give each other....wow. Just incredible.
You could tell from Ellie's reaction that she knew that Joel was lying but she accepted it.
They thing Ellie wanted Joel to swear about at the end was specifically the whole hospital situation he lied about. So going into season 2 there’s a huge lie looming between them.
In episode 1, Joel swears “on his life” to get a cake the next day… Tess promises Robert she wasn’t gonna sic Joel on him…
In episode 3, Ellie promises to follow Joel’s instructions…
In episode 5, Ellie swears to stay awake with Sam…
In episode 7, Joel says Ellie “deserved a choice”…
In episode 9, Marlene promises to keep Ellie safe… Joel swears *again* that he told Ellie the truth about what happened in SLC…
There’s a strong undercurrent of broken promises throughout the season.
I pray Ashley Johnson is ok. Wonderful to see her birth Ellie in the show after voicing her in the game, but that real life shit is rough.
Very much, she has been though hell
I didn't know about that, that sounds like a nightmare. Hope her and her fam get safety and peace.
When Ellie asked Joel to swear about the Fireflys, she was referring to the Hospital situation. Joel straight up lied about it all.. Just fyi🙂👍
Remember, not all infected are called clickers😊 That was not a clicker that bit Ellie's Mom. That was a stalker👍👍
I know it’s an apocalypse but my only problem is that they didn’t ask Ellie personally if she wanted to go through with it. Consent is key. I know Ellie would have said yes anyway, but just gassing her and putting her under without telling her the truth wasn’t it. It’s been a hell of a ride American mum. 😂🎉❤. Thank you for the reactions
they probably didnt want to risk her saying no and then having that on their conscience because thats what they care about. As long as she seems willing with the bare context that’s all they needed 😭
Yes, they violated her bodily autonomy. Some people think that she is not old enough to make that decision, but I disagree. I think she's the only one who could make that decision.
Yeah there's no way Marlene would have asked Ellie at all. They would not risk getting "no" for an answer. They see Ellie as their 1 and only shot at this. Consent was never an option.
@sjtwstot makes sense
I understand why both sides didn't want to ask her. Because both (Marlene and Joel) were scared to hear the opposite of what they want and both would have done it their way anyway.
But you, as audience/player know Ellie at this point very well. And so you know what she would have wanted. That's the whole point. And Joel and Marlene both knew it too, because they knew here as well... It is not about asking her or not. It's about perspective and the dark side of love
Oh you sweet summer child... 🥲Really enjoyed watching you react to this show mum! Thank you!❤
We love our Ellies! Bella was amazing again and so awesome to see Ashley. Both of them have stated that Eliie would have 100% chosen to die there for a chance at the cure, that's why Joel couldn't take the chance of her wanting to go back.
Loved seeing your reaction to these, enjoyed going on this journey again with someone new to the storey. Enjoyed your discussions too, nice to see someone this engaged with a storey I love so much.
Glad you liked the giraffe, his name is Nabo, and you can feed him too if you ever visited our local zoo where this was filmed.
Also forgot to mention the behind the scenes specials (one for every episode, 5-ish minutes each, and one 30min special for the whole season), along with the podcasts (one per episode, hosted by Joel's game actor and featuring the two show runners Craig and Neil, and occasional guests).
"it wasn't time that did it".
That line and the way Pedro says it is so incredibly strong .. sheesh...,❤️❤️❤️❤️
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The thing to keep in mind about Joel is that he is a deeply complicated character. They all are. Joel is a great father, but he is not a good man. What happened the night Sarah died broke him, and what he did to survive after that twisted him up inside. He is, above all, a man who will do whatever is necessary to survive and keep those he loves safe, even if it means killing innocent people. That part of him never changed.
When left with an impossible choice, he acted as a father, and stayed true to what a couple of his old friends has told him:
Tess: "Save who you can save."
Bill: "and god help any motherfrakker who gets in our way"
As a father myself, having to choose between a child of mine and a hypothetical chance at a cure. I'm saving my child.
“It wasn’t time that did it.” “I’m glad that didn’t work out.” “Me too.”
That’s Joel and Ellie for “I love you and I love you too.”
the Flashback , when Elli was born got me . i cried so hard. love your reaction Mum
It's so nice to see you reacting to a great show again. I think your GoT reactions are what hooked me on reactions in the first place!
Thanks! I did react to House Of The Dragon; it's on my Patreon. I don't have time to edit it...
Thank you for these. I've watched every reaction I can find...and I'll look for more...but yours are my favorite so far.
Wow... thanks!
@@AmericanMumReacts Last of Us blew me away as a game and I can't believe how great they did with the first season. The second and third seasons are suppose to cover Last of Us 2. It was as good a game as the first one!
I am so glad you checked out this amazing show! Now we gotta wait like 2 or 3 years 😂
Ellie is wicked smart and intuitive, so when she asked Joel to swear to her about what happened, you can tell by the look on her face that she knows he’s lying. But I also believe she realizes why.
I’m with Joel on getting Ellie back, regardless.
Joel full on dad mode, i would do exactly the same
same 👍🏼
Four twenty am out here on the west coast and this pops up. Nice.
I think Ellie for sure knows Joel is lying to her-and what really has her upset is that he 1) took away her choice and 2) took away her purpose: she believed she was the cure and meant to save everyone, and now that’s gone. Joel was thinking of Bill’s letter (“that’s why men like you and me are here-we have a job to do, and God help any mfuckers who stand in our way.”) and Ellie is thinking about what Maria told her (the only people who can betray us are the ones we trust). It’s sad that from here on out, their relationship will change forever. This is why this story and these characters are so amazing!
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Season two is coming in 2025. From what I understand (what I heard about the game) there is another big time jump from one part to the other.
This one freaked me out. As a parent, I can totally see slipping into a murderous rage to save my child. And at this point, she IS Joel's daughter.
if they follow the game to the bone(which we have no reason to believe they wont) Ellie is 14 years old in season 1, and 19 in season 2, so there will be effectively a 5 year jump.
@ In the last episode, Ellie turned 15. It was her birthday.
This must have taken place at least about two months after the last episode. There wasn't a speck of snow. So was this new dynamic with chatty Joel and quiet Ellie been going on that whole time, or was she just having an extra quiet day like Joel said? I think Marlene knew full well what she was doing when she sent Joel off with just those two guys. You could almost see it on her face as the three of them walked past her out the door. She was kind of looking for someone to take the guilt away from her. She was definitely letting Joel go and he knew full well he could have left without killing her. Also, he did leave the two nurses alive so, the Fireflies will know what happened. They also know Tommy, so they are bound to look there.
I think it wouldn't have ended up mattering to either Joel or Marlene what Ellie's decision would have been. They both would have ended doing what they thought was best. I believe Ellie would have gone through with it. I don't think
going in she thought it would mean sacrificing herself, I think she, like Joel, just thought they needed her blood. But I think she would definitely have still gone through with it. As she said to Joel, what would have been the point of everything she had been through? There's no halfway with this. We finish what we started.
He may very well have doomed all of humanity. QZs aren't the answer. We know at least the Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Chicago and KC QZs are all gone. He killed that doctor. How many of them that knew how to do this were there even before the apocalypse? Joel was basically Kathleen at that point.
What are the odds that someone else gave birth while being bitten by a clicker, they werent killed by the clicker, and then immediately cut the cord? Even so, what is the exact amount of time you would have to wait to cut the cord before too much of the cordyceps were transferred? Marlene didn't even know Ellie was immune until she was bit 14 years later.
Did you miss the part where Marlene said the doctor "hopes" he can culture the cells and make a cure? Maybe in our 2023 with all the medical and scientific advances they could do it, but in post-apocalyptic 2023? Let's be realistic about it - no way. And on the 1 in a million chance it works, you still have Fedra and infected and raiders and cannibals that can kill you.
You're right though, QZs aren't working. Places like Jackson are. You get cooperative groups living in fortified places that are willing to put in what it takes to keep the place safe, and you have the future of humanity. The world temperatures go down because global warming has stopped. This strain of fungus dies out when the infected die and/or when humanity learns what kills it. The US at least has groups of people who know how to work together as a whole from living in places like Jackson all their lives, and they gradually take back the world over hundreds of years. It's not a quick fix, but it leaves the world a better place overall. And it doesn't require sacrificing a child to hopefully, maybe, if things are very lucky, and if they could replicate it enough, cure that wouldn't stop people from dying in many other ways.
The only thing Joel did wrong was not telling Ellie the truth.
One of the best reactions I've seen to this episode. Thank you.
Wow, thank you! 💚
This is the episode I was talking about in my comment under episode 5, the Sam & Henry episode; the things that love will make you do, the lengths you’ll go to. Last episode & this episode, we see why that guy from episode 1, the one who captured Tess, was so afraid of Joel. This was such a conflicting episode for me.
At first, I hated that Joel lies to Ellie, but I thought about it since then. I think that, since he made the decision for Ellie regarding the cure, then the least hurtful course of action after that is to lie. Doing so, he tries to give her some time of innocent happiness as a teenager in Jackson (before she possibly finds out), instead of a most probably broken relationship and a failed destiny feeling right from the beginning. That's why, in my mind, it is even more important that he swears at the end, so Ellie will believe him.
Thanks for the reactions to all the episodes Mum.
They were great and like I said before I’m just so happy that people who are not gamers or didn’t play the game got to experience this amazing story.
As a father I would have done the same as Joel except I wouldn’t have lied to her. The trust was broken because in her heart she knew he was lying but couldn’t bring herself to admit it. I think you said that you watched the Inside The Episodes after each episode.
I’ve heard so many people say that they didn’t expect anything like this story to come from a video game, and not only that but that they stayed so faithful to the game and how some of it was basically scene for scene and/or line for line. It shows you just how good the game was, both in writing and cinematic style.
I thought Pedro and Bella were perfect for the roles of Joel and Ellie and their chemistry was off the charts, and it is the same off screen as they have developed a father/daughter dynamic off screen as well. The interviews they do together are hilarious. It’s just so natural for them.
Thanks again Mum. It was an entertaining and emotional journey.
One more thing. Have you watched Chernobyl? If not, it’s a limited series on HBO, five episodes. It was written and produced by Craig Mazin. Definitely give it a watch. It’s amazing and won over ten Emmy Awards.
I would love to see your reaction to that, and if you’ve already done it I’ll go look for it now and delete this last paragraph 😂.
I can't wait for season 2... Yes, i watched Chernobyl when it came out (before I realized ppl were reacting to it) Oh well...
I’ve really enjoyed your reactions! Thank you for posting!
Thanks for watching
Bet you didn't know you were following a bad guy this episode. For all intents and purposes, Joel is the villain this episode. He shoots, he kills mercilessly and lies to someome he cares about multiple times in a row.
And I like this kind of, saying:
Good guys do things for others, Bad guys do things for themselves. Joel did this for himself. Not others, not the world, and not for Ellie, he did it for himself and no one else. Which makes him an interesting character. One of the most interesting characters, not just video game characters, ever made.
As Henry said: "I'm the bad guy, 'cause I did the bad guy thing.". There is nuance because life is shades of grey, but objectively, Joel did the "bad guy thing". I don't blame him in the slightest given who he is, but the Firefly Massacre would have been horrifying to anyone outside of Joel.
I kind of look at it this way, Marlene did the wrong thing (violating Ellies bodily autonomy)for the right reasons, and Joel did the right thing (taking Ellie out of there) for selfish reasons.
she has doubts about what happened at the hospital so she asks him to swear what he told her was true. there is a second game which they want to make into 2 more seasons. probably around 2024-25 lol
That last scene is so devastating and tragic. Tommy's wife says that the only people who can betray us are the people we trust. In that final scene, Joel betrays Ellie, and she knows he has. Their relationship is broken.
To be fair to Marlene, she didn't know about the surgery back in Boston. So she didn't lie or not tell them the full story. She just knew Ellie was immune and could be the answer. It was the doc who figured out how exactly the immunity was working and what he'd have to do to make a vaccine. I don't agree w what Joel did - the intention is that the vaccine would work if they had a chance to make it, but Joel sacrifices the rest of humanity to save Ellie. But I 100% understand why he did it. He just regained his own humanity and he cannot lose another daughter. He simply cannot. There is no choice for him. But I don't agree with it. But I also don't agree with Marlene and the fireflies. Ellie would for sure have chosen to do the surgery. She's a tough little badass and would totally sacrifice herself for humanity, but they didn't give her a chance to choose that. They should have told her the situation and allowed her to give informed consent (or decline, but imo no way she would decline). But they didn't. Everyone sucks here except for Ellie.
@@Sc-dd6hb in real life i would say you're right. more would need to be done and checked about the science. and afaik real science says a vaccine or cure like this isn't really possible in this circumstance. BUT. in the scope of the fiction and all pretend science of the game, the intention is that the cure would actually work. that's why the stakes of what joel does are so huge.
if the producers follow the game to the bone for season 2(which we have no reason to believe they wont) Ellie is 19 years old in season 2, she is 14 now so there will be effectively a 5 year jump. And yes, both Bella and Pascal will be on season 2, 100%. One of the reasons they casted Bella is her age, 19 which goes in line with what waits for season 2
I always think that this episode delivered you the feeling of relieved. Everything is settle here between Joel and Ellie, they open to each other. Can I just say that they officialy Father and Daughter.
Exactly...
I've seen a fair few reactors yell at the screen at the point where Marlene tells the guy to "cover her ears" and he just looks at her stupidly and does absolutely NOTHING. he had ONE job in that moment. lol That was like the hardest fail ever. lol.
I remember thinking that but i was too busy crying
Oh! No spoilers for game 2/future seasons. There will be at least 2 more season to adapt game 2. It's a much longer game, no way to do it in one. And, without spoilers, I can confirm Bella and Pedro will be able to continue their roles. Bella is petite and youthful looking, but is 19 currently. There is some passage of time throughout the game, but it's nothing like the 20yr jump at the start of the show. They are good to go for at least the next 2-3 seasons.
Tess did say, “Save who you can save.”
Joel saved Ellie
I played the game when it came out and I really liked the show. Two things I’d like to say though.
What I don’t like is the show inferring that there could be more ellies. As in more pregnant mothers could be bitten while giving birth and eventually the same situation could happen. This makes Joel’s actions a better argument even if he doesn’t know about this. This whole sequence is not in the game lol
I also think one thing people forget is that Ellie saved Joel’s life twice. Maybe that isn’t his primary reason for saving her. But put yourself in his situation and ask yourself what you would do knowing that. The whole debate today about whether Joel is right or wrong seems to miss this basic human desire to reciprocate.
And THIS is why one does not mess with Joel's "Baby Girl."
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What Joel did was selfish, no question. Ellie would have sacrificed herself, even if there was just a chance of a cure. Joel knew that. But he wasn't gonna let that happen because he wasn't gonna lose another daughter. The ultimate selfish act ...and I would have done exactly the same thing.
I'm glad he was selfish... I'm holding out hope there is another person out there that can create the "cure" 💚
@@AmericanMumReacts You know part 2 of the game came out 3 years ago, right?
@@Martyntd5 I know absolutely nothing…
@@AmericanMumReacts Then keep away from anything and everything related to this show or you WILL get spoiled. The plot is well known and it is everywhere.
When Naughty Dog play tested the game, most people were 50/50 on Joel’s actions in SLC. 100% of play testers *that were parents* agreed with Joel’s actions, including the lie at the end.
Thanks for taking us along Mum!
Moral of the story is: don't bring a SCALPEL to a gunfight.🤦♀️🙄😆😆
Tee hee
I've been playing this game for a very long time.... knowing what is going to happen still has me on edge and anxious
I love Part 2 way more then part 1, even tho I know what is coming, it don't bother me tbh.
I liked season 1 but none of the characters stood out for me, everyone was great tho.
Abby is still my favourite charater
It took me a while to let myself like Abby, for obvious reasons, but she did grow on me. Ellie will always have a special place in my heart. Can't wait to see what they are going to do for TLOU 3
Hey Pedro. It’s not a bad bod,
It’s a father figure.
I wish I could like this a thousand times. That's a quality dad joke right there!
Oh as you've probably heard! There is a Last of Us Pt. 2 video game, and so there will be more seasons :)
Shes most likely traumatized by David first trying to kill her, then trying to seggsually assault her, and her hacking him to a pulp. The game hints more to it (Ellie stearing at a picture of a deer in salt lake city). Also youre right, shes also extra quiet cause journey is coming to an end
It’s so hard to see Joel as a villain but he really is, he’d do anything to protect who he loves.
If he's a villain for saving Ellie then basically all human beings are fundamentally villains at heart. I would have done the exact same as him in that situation.
Once Marlene told him she was going to murder Ellie without giving her a choice, he was always going to try and save her. Especially after Ellie told him a few hours earlier she wanted to go back and live with him afterwards.
@@MrPicklerwoof that’s the point, that we are never all good or all bad. It’s not that he’s a big bad guy it’s about how people can see someone as the villain in their story whilst others see him as a good guy. The way the game shows him as the main character makes us understand why he did certain things and makes us see him in a good light. Even before he met Ellie they say multiple times that Joel did some bad things. People were scared of him.
23:07 what?! 🤠 exactly. leaves room for season 2 tho
I find different reactions very interesting. I was like you, siding with Joel immediately, thinking "do whatever you have to do to save her, even if that means killing the surgeon who could make a cure" ... Then you've got others who disagree and say Joel was selfish to save ONE person and thus allow this infection to never end and kill thousands more. The more I've thought about it, the more I can understand BOTH sides. In the end, I've concluded that the decision should have been up to Ellie. They ALL should have sat down and quietly discussed this as a GROUP. And if she went forward with it, give her time. Don't rush it, even if she says to get it over with. No. Give it a week or two so she can think if this is what she truly wants. Also allows her to spend time with Joel and Marlene because she cares about both of them. Marlene and the rest of the fireflies rushing it, basically taking away Joel and Ellies goodbyes (had Ellie wanted that) was what lead to this whole mess. Marlene should have known better. Two individuals, traveling together for 6 months and going through all they went through, you're going to form a bond to some degree. Marlene overlooked their relationship, and it ruined any chance of a cure.
"Tess would be so proud of you"
I don't think she would be. Because she asked him to "set everything right" about all the shit they've done. So for Tess, I believe it's like Ellie said 'It can't be for nothing'. So I do believe that yes, Tess would have sacrificed Ellie to save everybody else. She might not have liked doing it, she might have hated herself for it, but I think she would've done it. Or at least given Ellie the choice.
But then again, who would put a choice like that in the hands of an emotional smartass 14 year old?
And that is the beauty of the last of us. It's learning how to view things from other people's point of view. We followed Joel and Ellie along so we don't want Ellie to die and we don't care that Joel killed everybody in his way. And if he would've been too late, we would have cheered while he avenged her.
However, when Kathleen was on a mission to avenge her brother Michael, we were all telling her to get over it and leave Henry and Sam alone.
I wouldn't have been able to sacrifice my best friend's son to save mankind. He is the love of my life. However, to save him? If someone else was immune and could be the cure but it would mean their death? Get that ficker on the table and slice his brain, I want my best friend's child protected.
I liked watching this along with you. Thank you for sharing it with us
Tess would most likely not be happy with him at all. She begged Joel to take Ellie not to save Ellie, but to save the world. Joel effectively chose Ellie over all humanity. Joel managed to become the bad guy.
Had Joel not interrupted Ellie while she told him about Riley, and not let her say how she felt, he probably wouldn't have had to lie to her because she probably wouldn't have asked him to swear to her he's not lying, which she knew he was lying but gave him the benefit of the doubt and he ended that trust then and there but she refuses to face that truth because she loves him and isn't ready to have that kind of relationship with him so she accepts the lie.
100% true
Marlene swears Ellie is immune because the infected thinks she is infected, but later says eventually Ellie would be "ripped apart by the infected". Just shows that Marlene really didn't have the evidence to back up why the surgery would have been justified.
The Infected attack her because she hasn't been turned, but once the fungus enters her bloodstream, it finds the chemical markers Marlene was talking about. That then deactivates the new fungus because it appears she is already infected. Which she is, she's just not symptomatic. Marlene's point was that it would be better for Ellie to have an easy death and possibly save humanity in the process rather than have her be shot/beaten/assaulted by Raiders (or physically damaged to the point of death in an attack by the Infected).
There will be a Season 2, but because of the Writers Strike, they are saying it won't be until 2025. I hope that there wil be a ton of Golden Globes and Emmys coming first.You did a great Reacting job American Mum.
Thanks 💚
They're planning on covering the second game in 2 more seasons
Bella Ramsey is actually 19 so she won't need to be recast to play an older Ellie. 😊
What do you do when you’re being attacked by a group of clowns?
Go for the juggler.
These puns are top tier. ❤
@@erinhaury5773 thank you kindly
I hate that Joel lied to her. She knows he's lying. Their relationship is never going to be the same.
On another note SE1 of TLofU is based on TLofU I video game and SE2 & SE3 of TLofU will based on TLofU II video game, Mum.
Ashley Johnson played Ellie in the game and Ellie’s mom in the series and had Ellie’s knife. Marlene is best friends with Ellie’s mom. Giraffe is real. Damn drs and fireflies not telling Ellie she’s not going to survive the procedure. Joel had to lie to Ellie. They went back to Tommy’s town.
I'm afraid that I cannot be as forgiving as you when it comes to Marlene!! I believe that Marlene knew right from the beginning that Ellie was going to have to be sacrificed!! When the monkey wrench got thrown in the works and Marlene got shot and she passed the task of transporting Ellie to Joel and Tess, she did not even fathom that Joel would actually become attached to Ellie the way he did!! In hindsight it would have been better for Marlene to have transported Ellie across the country herself!!
I am 100% behind Joel doing what he did to save Ellie but I am definitely not one-hundred-percent about his lying to ELLIE about what happened!! We already know that Marlene did not tell Ellie that she was going to have to be sacrificed!! That's another reason that I'm not a big fan of Marlene because in her closing words to Joel she asked the question what "would Ellie want to do?" yet she didn't bother to ask her herself!!! But Marlene figured she couldn't afford to have Ellie refuse to be sacrificed so she didn't want to take that chance!! Joel on the other hand told his lie because he was afraid that Ellie WOULD agree to be sacrificed!! And after just having been healed after a 20-year wound and hole in him having been basically filled he could not allow it to be empty again!!
That one there at the point of just about getting back to Tommy's place and he swears to the LIE again, I think you should have said the truth right there!!
But the ultimate question that I take away from this series is this...
Is a world that is willing to sacrifice the life of an innocent child to POSSIBLY save itself really worth saving????
Can't wait for season 2!!
The problem with the notion that her possible "cure" would save humanity, its not. There is no guarantees and there is no way to know if it would work.
There are in fiction. The story is asking what the right choice is, and in the show's universe the vaccine would have worked and it would have been given to everyone in the world. The question is: is that worth the life of one person. It's literally the trolley problem. You can't cop out and say 'I would derail the trolley'. No, you have to pick.
Most people will side with Joel. But imagine you're literally anyone else in that world. You, your family, your loved ones, all had a shot at living without fear from the infected and that's taken away forever because of one guy saving one girl. Is that right?
You're asked a question to consider between two absolutes. There's nothing clever about going 'I wouldn't pick'.
@@clarkmichaels822 This might sound silly but I think the covid pandemic but this into perspective a lot more for me. During the lockdowns I was desperate for them to make a vaccine. Desperate. Like a lot of people I was getting incredibly depressed not having my usual freedoms and not being able to live my life as normal - and that was just covid…imagine that times a thousand. The world has completely gone to shit and your likelihood of either dying because of another human or being torn to pieces by infected is extremely high. All you can do is try to survive day to day. Living in a post apocalyptic world like that, I cannot even begin to imagine how DESPERATE for a cure I would be. I would pretty much do anything. The whole “there’s no guarantee it would work” argument is pretty redundant to me because there’s no guarantee it wouldn’t work either? You won’t know either way until you try, that’s the problem.
But I’m not a parent and I guess that invalidates my opinion for a lot of people. Lol
@clarkmichaels822 then fiction could have solved the issue more realistically
@@MoonageDaydream. I'm not a parent
@@bertinamiller9626 Pretty sure that's why non-fiction exists.
Most moms agree with Joel killing everyone for his adopted daughter.
Before the mass infection Joel was a good, loving, but absent minded father. Afterwards, for 20 years Joel, Tess and his brother were frankly, despicable people. They were murderers, drug dealers, and perhaps kidnappers and torturers. Ellie became Joel's redemption. Yes, Marlene keeping the fact of Ellie's death was despicable as well, but let's not sugar coat what Joel was and is because of his love for Ellie. By the way, yes, there is a "Last Of Us" part 2, and there will perhaps be two more seasons of TLOU.
Great reaction American Mom 👍👍
The ending is exactly how the video game ended.
Joe goes full James Bond by the end to save Ellie ❤
I liked season 1, my only problem was there was little zombies. I know the writer said he didn't want to over do it like The Walking Dead but episodes 8 and 9 needed some tbh, both around the start of the episodes at least
This show needs to be a game :)
Mum, you should watch some gameplay and show side by side. I think you'll find it interesting👍 There are plenty on RUclips
Every action have big reactions. Stay tuned for season 2
I'm ready!
@@AmericanMumReacts sure?
‘Cause I finish the game straight to therapy. Context: “pandemic lock down”
@@serafimvalmorbida7412 😳
I am a GP and I wish the Fireflies tried so many ways other than in the first solution to operate on Ellie and have her killed. At least wait and see if Ellie will give birth to her child. See if the child is immune or not. I will not kill the only immune people in this situation. Even if we believe that the process really gives them the vaccine, I think the Fireflies will become such a dictator group just as Catherine's group in episode 4 and 5. And also even if they really produce the vaccine, and they start giving it to people, imagine people like David get the vaccine and keep making the world a hell for so many people. I don't think I'd give the world a chance and let Ellie die in the process.
On the other hand, we have to remember that Joel had a very rough experience starting his journey with Ellie. He lost Tess, Bill and Frank at the starting point. And remember what Tess said to him: save who you can save. And also Bill's letter explaining that Bill and Joel are the kind of men who protect their loved ones. Bill said this: that's what we did, we protect those we love. And God help any motherfucker who stands in our way. That is why Joel killed David's people to find out where they took Ellie, that is why Joel became Joel Wick in the hospital and brutally killed everyone. I am on Joel's side on this one even if it means sacrificing the world for it (saving Ellie). 🤣
What if you had a child in that world and Joel made it impossible for that child to ever be safe? Would you be so forgiving then? When your child got bit and turned, would you look them in the eye one last time and say 'it's okay, Joel just really loved Ellie'?
Ellie give birth...? Did you mean Anna?
@@erinhaury5773 no, I mean if you want to observe Ellie as the only immune person, you can do so many other medical procedure including wait until Ellie is mature enough, then let she marry a man and have a child. Observe whether the child also has immunity or not. This way you can ensure that the immunity can be passed through child birth. And then try to find some other ways for the immunity to be passed onto other people. Don't just jump into killing the only immune person for an uncertain possibility of creating a vaccine
@@vladimirvanvhorno357 that completely ignores what Ellie may want. Did you forget that she is a lesbian and it is highly unlikely that she would be with a man to have a child?
@@cullenarthur8879 Ellie likes girl, I know that. But for the research for the cure to the infection I think Ellie would do anything that she can. Even sacrificing herself if needed. Just bearing a child from a man I think will be not as hard as sacrificing herself. And also my point is that there are so many options in medical procedures, do not choose the one procedure that will certainly kill the only immune person. Ellie having a child is also not a must, but they can research if the immunity can be passed down by genetics if Ellie wanted to have a baby with a man. That's what I thought
That’s exactly how the first game ends. Also if you think that the first season was emotional…. Get ready for season 2+ lol
They will probably do it by season 3, Unless they want people to unsub from HBO Max lol
@@chaosiscoming9184 i hope they do it in the first or second episode just like the game. But that’s just me 🤷🏽♂️
I think Ellie knows that if Ellie died Joel would kill himself.
He definitely would. Ellie is the only thing he has left.
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Thank you mom for your reaction to this amazing show
The music playing during Joel's raid is the theme of the show but it's so dark and sad because it's the death of all these guys with families that are depending on those chance of a cute, but it's also the death of Joel's humanity.
Everything has a consequence and this is the driving force of the events of season 2.
Sidenote, you should watch some RUclipsrs play the game so you can see what's different than the show.
It's funny, I actually think it's the complete opposite - Joel rediscovers his humanity thanks to Ellie which is why he has to save her. It was Marlene who lost her humanity towards Ellie when she decided to murder her without giving her the choice.
@@MrPicklerwoof good argument. The other side of the coin that poses the question of what would you do if you were Joel.
@@brianattyberry I guess it goes beyond what's "right" and "wrong". If I was in Joel's position and my daughter was about to be murdered, I'd have done the exact same thing.
Ultimately, Marlene (and the doctor) initiated the whole incident themselves. They set up the scenario, whereas Joel was merely responding to it.
I find it hard to criticise Joel really. It's much easier to criticise the unethical, inhumane approach by the Fireflies. Which isn't to say they're "wrong" as such, it all depends on perspective.
Just to add, it's the same music that plays while you're going through the hospital in the game, too. The soundtracks for Part I & II are easily some of the best gaming music out there.
# 2 is so good.
I'm excited!
It's easily some of the best storytelling I've ever seen.
@@erinhaury5773 agreed
I doubt i will watch season 2. Perhaps a few episodes towards the end.
The whole attempt was never in the game . In the game Joel is practically Superman. He has great hearing , great stamina, great aim. Joel knows Everything. In the show Joel is Mr. Average man. He is partially deaf in one ear. He has panic attacks. He has nightmares about "failing". He is slow. He is out of shape. He attempted self forever sleep. The difference between Game Joel and Show Joel is night and day.
The sheer arrogance when people actually say that. "I'm THE ONLY one who understands." You know who else said that exact same thing word for word?? THANOS!! lol.
Ooooh yes!
She was saying that to tell Joel that she does care for Ellie and understands the gravity of her actions. She is not taking this lightly.
@@cullenarthur8879 No. That's a cop-out. she was saying that to "put Joel in his place." That's why she emphasized "I was there when she was born." To essentially tell Joel that SGHE cares MORE about Ellie than HE does. But that's obvious bullshit. The ONLY thing Marlene cares about is herself first, the cure second, the rest of the world third and THEN Ellie. IF she truly cared about Ellie she would have given her the choice before just putting her asleep and not even bothering to tell her. Marlene is quite simply, a coward. Defending her self righteous "I'm the ONLY one who understands." is defending stupidity. It doesn't even matter if she's actually correct or not. that's not the point. the situation is irrelevant; I'm not talking about the situation, nor do I care about the situation. I'm talking about Marlene's arrogance and self entitled stupidity. she doesn't care about Ellie one bit. From day ONE she would have sacrificed her and called it "for the greater good" at the drop of a hat. Ellie was just research for the Fireflies. Nothing more. Why else do you think they kept her locked away?? It wasn't for her safety; it for theirs.
I have the Cure for this outbreak. We see Anna was in labor when she was infected and cut the cord on Ellie straight away. As such Ellie is immune. If Ellie was not gay and had a baby that child would be immune. So get a pregnant woman , when she goes into labor infect her just like Anna. Thirty or fourty of these cases and the next generation would be immune.
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A LOT of these I've seen and LOVE! Train to Busan is on my channel and Beetlejuice was just watched last month for Patreon. I'm actually reacting to IT soon (on Patreon) I'll add the others to my list 💚
Did you misunderstand and go confused at the end on Ellie's question?
At first, yes...
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Nd this is how Joel dooms the world
*Joel is Ellie's blood father...* I calculated that Joel and Tess had lunch at Bill's when Ellie was exactly 1 year old.
Joel knew Marlene and, accordingly, her best friend, they were a couple. When Marlin says, "I was there when Ellie was born," she seems to be saying by implication, "where were you when your daughter was born?". Joel understood this context, so when he takes Ellie up the hill, he compares Ellie to her half-sister Sarah.
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I have corrected you on this before, that is not true. Neither the creators of the game or show said this. You are just making this up. I understand theorizing and having fun with the show, but you shouldn't just make stuff up.
@@cullenarthur8879 I'm willing to make a bet that Tommy will tell Ellie the truth about who her father is in the last episode of the third season of the show... you'll see, it will be so.
@@user-dk3pp2hj3v I seriously doubt it. I have never played the games, but nobody I have seen who has has said anything about this being true. The creators of the show would have had to make a huge change in the story for it to be true. And unnecessary in my opinion. Ellie is Joel's unofficially adopted daughter. It's unnecessary to make her his biological daughter.
@@cullenarthur8879 So you are ready to conclude a dispute remotely? Are you absolutely sure Joel isn't her biological father? Personally, I was finally convinced of their relationship, the reaction of the PSYCHOLOGIST. She said, after watching the whole series, that they even have the same psychotype, and then I watched Joel's dialogue with Marlene several times, and this is a clear hint.
Next season only in 2025
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the last of us part 2 is just wow. it leaves you broken at the end. no movie or tv show made me feel so broken. im not going to spoil it for you but i hate elie and joel in part 2
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