The definition of pine used here is not the tree, but the verb meaning to “suffer a mental and physical decline, especially because of a broken heart.” The lyrics mainly suggest the idea that missing someone - pining - can be a physical pain much like hunger."
+Jethro Brooks Seems to be one of those words that doesn't translate well between countries and culture, as Alt-J being from the UK (is it the UK?). Well anyways, I bet a majority of people who don't get it haven't even heard the expression, such as people here in America. Only reason I'm sure some people here understand is probably having read more English literature. Ah, getting lost in translation sure is fun.
+Jethro Brooks I think it's also the "pine" is the arrows, that hunger to kill, the pine tree cut down, with "butterflies and needles line my seamed-up join." It goes into the theme of war with "chain mail" and "your heart wears knight armour" and "I'll hum the song soliders sing" Here is my interpretation of the song, It's about missing someone who's gone to war they are "pining" for them, but maybe it's also the arrow's "hunger to kill" they feel their loved one is in danger from the "pine" though I'm not sure pining makes grammatical sense, as: pining= longing pine= long hunger of the long (?)
for anyone wondering, the background vocals at the end are singing 'une immense espérance a traversé la terre, une immense espérance a traversé ma peur' which means 'A great hope has crossed the earth , A great hope has crossed my fear'. it's a quote from Alfred de Musset’s poem L'espoir en Dieu (Hope in God), it's a really nice poem, i recommend reading it
Yoo foreal I never even thought to look into that for some reason. Thank you so much for this amazing little bit of info. After so many years watching this no one ever wrote this to my knowledge. I will check it out as well. Thanks again from the world of RUclips lol!
"You Never truly defeat your inner Demons, you only learn to live among them" The arrows symbolize the pains and injuries, some hurt him, others don't, but no matter what, he keeps going. In the beginning he has places to hide behind the trees, but as he grows, he leaves the forest to enter the grassland, leaving him without cover. That's where he gets most of his wounds. He ultimately choses to stop running and face his fears. He accepts his fate, surrenders all of itself, and stands up tall, making him invincible. The arrows of fire symbolize the rebirth and purification (by the fire). The end is a new beginning... (Notice that you never see the inner Demons (the archers), they don't have a personification.) A Masterpiece
Sleeplessly embracing Butterflies and needles Line my seamed-up join Encased in case I need it In my stomach, for my heart Chain mail Hunger of the pine Hunger of the pine Sleeplessly embracing Yawn yearns into me Plenty more tears in the sea And so you finally use it Bedding with me you see at night Your heart wears knight armour Hunger of the pine (I'm a female rebel) (I'm a female rebel) (I'm a female rebel) Sleeplessly Embracing You Realization grew on me As quickly as it takes your hand To warm the cool side of the pillow I’m there for you, be there for me I’ll hum the song the soldiers sing As they march outside our window Hunger of the pine Sleeplessly Embracing Sleeplessly Embracing You Sleeplessly Embracing (I'm a female rebel) Sleeplessly Embracing You
PINE = Pīn/ suffer a mental and physical decline, especially because of a broken heart. "she thinks I am pining away from love" synonyms: languish, decline, weaken, waste away, wilt, wither, fade, sicken, droop; More miss and long for the return of. "I was pining for my boyfriend" verb: pine; 3rd person present: pines; past tense: pined; past participle: pined; gerund or present participle: pining
I like your interpretation regardless if it's right or wrong. Great research and looking deeper into further meaning than that which is seen on the surface
@@NikoMoraKamu "The lyrics mainly suggest the idea that missing someone - pining - can be a physical pain much like hunger." literally from an interview with them
He starts off running from his pain. He decides instead to give his pain fuel and face it head on, because we are more resilient than our pain can possibly hurt.
Maybe the arrows are the roadblocks to the fuel for his life then when he gets to the fuel he is more vulnerable to the arrows, maybe hinting the dangers of growing up coming into an adult. Maybe
That would be tragic and there are people who don’t feel anything for or never heard alt j I personally think that’s crazy Alt j is an add to you character😂😂
TO UNDERSTAND THIS VIDEO READ THIS QUOTE: ‘Whom the gods love, die young’ was said of yore, And many deaths do they escape by this: The death of friends and that which slays even more, The death of friendship, love, youth, all that is, Except mere breath. And since the silent shore Awaits at last even those whom longest miss The old archer’s shafts, perhaps the early grave, Which men weep over, may be meant to save.
EuphoricTheory Didn't really understand it when i first read it but over the course of the video it slowly sun in. Completely turns what I thought the meaning was on its head and makes it a whole lot more beautiful. Thanks
This is what I felt surviving a mental illness. Manic depression from a brain injury. Every emotional blow was ten times the emotions it should have been and I felt like I was constantly wounded. I was always pouring compassion into others while I tried healing my incredible pain. My heartaches created constant sufferings, from others who betrayed or tried to hurt me and childhood. I would cry for hours regularly and then I made it all stop. You feel very triumphant when you heal something that severe. Like a king or a great warrior pulling yourself through every devastating experience. Every arrow a emotional wound aimed to break you down. But you keep running to survive to be strong to give your soul strength. To end the suffering. Until you're not afraid of death and rebirth anymore. You're not afraid of it. You have conquered the suffering. The arrows don't scare you and you're willing to feel them through and you won't let them take your soul. You'll go down by your own strength not any others. In other words no one gets to take you down only you. Therefore you are victorious. You'll fight until the end and you'll reach release on your own terms.
That’s What You Say Until You’re Faced With Actual Death , Then You’d Feel Afraid , There Isn’t A Moment On Earth Where People Want To Stay Alive More Than When They’re Dying . Trust Me I’ve Been There , And I Actually Tried To M*rder Myself , And Go Out On My Own Terms , Nothing Beautiful About That .
Maybe that’s all bipolar ever was. Emotional wounds so severe they create a crack in the psyche, two selves fighting for territory inside the body until they finally truly heal. Only through adversity can we see our true selves, we emerge victorious in our understanding of self and others. It’s okay that we took on this burden, because we are perhaps never truly given what we cannot handle.
honestly, the music video made the song so much more amazing. there's something so beautiful, and creative, and just captivating by the video and the song. then again i love pretty much every alt-j song.
is this what it feel like to become an adult? like, the beggining you're attacked by reality(arrows) but your parents and family protect you (trees), then when you start growing up you're all vulnerable in an open field and alone, and in the end you accept the reality as it is and burst up in flames. obviously just my opinion
Yea and the best comes at the end "Un immense espérance à traversé ma peur' which means hope gone trough fear, so close to the Hunger games slogan "Hope is the only thing stronger than fear"! Gosh i love it
people work better with goals! "how many"="little" "10k"=""8k and happy" ... glad i helped :) also your dream means u dont like your life and u feel trapped... either living with your parents where u cant express yourself.. or a relationship or society in general... work on it... its not a good dream... and yes i know im 1year late but well... someone is going to win something from this comment :) so my work is done here! express yourself and stop running ... nobody is chasing... its all in our heads... dont get trapped into thinking how much other people think and judge you... its 10% of what we think usually... most people either wont give a fuck or have no time to give a fuck about what others do... the minority that gives too many fucks for others are sad people with 0 meaning in their life so... do u really think u should value them? :) have a great day!
when i was boy, i had a dream of something like a monster, taking me outdside, but then suddenly it was laid on the ground ; i defeat the fear even i don't fight ( i think it was just a manifestation of something i had to accept or to handle )
I love how modern and old blend. It's a badly seen and joked about aspect in the video, but the man is wearing modern clothes and the arrows are old and hand-crafted. It just adds to the perfection of this video: Threats of all sources occasionally get you, but though you bear with you those past arrows, they don't stop you from putting that foot other foot through.
For me each arrow signifies past struggles in my life. Starting with my divorce, moving to covid, isolation, depression, self hate, self doubt.. etc. The gasoline represents community, love, forgiveness, inner strength, finding ones self... in the end ultimately transcendence. Love that.
Yeah, but it doesn't transform in real life. The only transformation of engulfing fire is death (after you took 10 arrows - two through the chest heart and throat).
For some reason I think this video is uplifting At least he chose his own death, and he endured all the arrows There's something about strength, endurance, and freedom, about this video...
I remember hearing this on Vampire Dairies and thinking, "Jesus, this is a F'ing seriously heavy tune" (similar to the scene/episode...that whole season). It's one of those songs that gives you goosebumps and hits your soul. I had to find it immediately... that was... several years ago. Still hits like the first time.
"Hunger Of The Pine" Sleeplessly embracing Butterflies and needles Line my seamed-up join Encased in case I need it In my stomach, for my heart Chain mail Hunger of the pine Hunger of the pine Sleeplessly embracing Yawn yearns into me Plenty more tears in the sea And so you finally use it Bedding with me you see at night Your heart wears knight armour Hunger of the pine (I'm a female rebel...) Sleeplessly Embracing You Realization grew on me As quickly as it takes your hand To warm the cool side of the pillow I'm there for you, be there for me I'll hum the song the soldiers sing As they march outside our window Hunger of the pine Sleeplessly Embracing You Une immense espérance a traversé la terre Une immense espérance a traversé ma peur
***** I make Life is Strange videos, and after making one where max dyes her hair blue and a bunch of funny stuff happens, I decided I'd make blue haired max my avatar.
If the actor in this video would read my little message (which he probably won't, but I'll write it anyway), I would tell him: Your piercing gaze, big variety of expressions and your ability to move in the flight is amazing. If one didn't know that the arrows merely were effects I think it would be easy to mistake this for the real deal. It's amazing how you manage to make it look like you're actually hit by them and feel pain by them. I think things will only get better for you!
This reminds me of the story of Chiron. The half mortal, half immortal centaur (Saggitarius) who gets wounded and his mortal side feels the pain but his immortal side won't allow him to die. Eventually he accepts the pain and requests that Zeus allow him to become fully mortal and just die. Moved, Zeus turns him fully immortal instead. Zeus here is represented by the physical laws of science and chemistry: arrows and fire. On his quest for a cure before he accepts his predicament, Chiron heals many others. This is represented by us the watchers of the video, and our relationship to the man on the screen helping us process pain of some kind by providing catharsis. The fire represents either death or immortality.
My wonderful partner died last year of the cancer that he had had for ten years and had struggled to heal from. He liked alt J and this was one of his favourite songs and I remember him showing me this video. Like Chiron he was a very gifted teacher who worked with special needs children who often had suffered trauma and like Chiron he had a wound himself (derived from trauma from his childhood that manifested itself in cancer) that in the end he submitted to.(he refused the treatment by the end, as it was ruining his body and causing a lot of suffering) He was born in the critical degree of Sagittarius. I told him the story of Chiron and how Zeus made him immortal and placed him in the stars. I feel he played out this deep Sagittarian myth in his life, expressing the highest of Sagittarian values. He will always be immortal to me......but boy, I wish he was still with us.
If you are listening to this while you're high af... then good luck you're going to need it. Close your eyes and sit back, you're about to be sent to another world
@@antonio_ws6 it's called Life is Strange, it's not a girly game, I played it myself and I thought it was beautiful. It's makes you realize how fucked up society is. But it also really makes you feel like you're in the game and you get really engaged with the characters. I played it because of Alt-J but it was really worth it :)
Sleeplessly embracing Butterflies and needles Line my seamed-up join Encased in case I need it In my stomach, for my heart Chain mail Hunger of the pine Hunger of the pine Sleeplessly embracing Yawn yearns into me Plenty more tears in the sea And so you finally use it Bedding with me you see at night Your heart wears knight armour Hunger of the pine (I'm a female rebel...) Sleeplessly Embracing You Realization grew on me As quickly as it takes your hand To warm the cool side of the pillow I'm there for you, be there for me I'll hum the song the soldiers sing As they march outside our window Hunger of the pine Sleeplessly Embracing You Une immense espérance a traversé la terre Une immense espérance a traversé ma peur
This song is so magical, like all of Alt-j's songs. But this song feels more, I don't know, delicate? Yeah. It's so gentle yet so powerful. This song really is a gift.
If you haven't heard alt-J's other songs i would highly recommend you check em out. Some of my favorites are Breezeblocks, Fitzpleasure, Tesselate, Nara, Left Hand Free, In Cold Blood, 3WW, Mrs, Blood flood, and bloodflood part 2 just to name a few
It seems so simple, but that's the trick. The acting, editing, music, effects, cinematography, lighting, drone shots. They friggen nailed all of it. Tracking those shots for the arrows must have been hard work. Perfectly executed...pardon the pun. To come up with a concept like this and execute it perfectly is a real talent.
as in tracking the forest behind him and the movement to get the arrows in. Tracking the shots FOR the arrows. As in for the arrows to be put in. Tracking a background with so much moving greenery is really tricky. I didn't word that properly, sorry.
Sean Murray and Hello Games taking the negativity left and right but still standing ready to Light A Fire with a new game. Also this music is top notch. Will be checking out the rest of your work.
Nabil's imagery is powerful here and he did a great job with this video. The openness of the interpretation is so great with this. My interpretation is that this shows a man's walk (run) through life (the forest and field) while dealing with issues of this world (the arrows) that leads him to depression and self-sabatoge (pouring gasoline on himself) to accept his fate and end it all on his own terms (turning around to the wave of flaming arrows without running). You know what I'm hinting at. The forest symbolizes our teen years where we were cared for by others and even though there were hardships, we had (if we were fortunate enough) family to help take care of them. The arrows would hit the trees (our family) and block most of the shots. The field the man runs into symbolizes us leaving the comforts and protections of our family; moving out to live on our owns. There's no trees to block the arrows. Everything falls on us to outrun or withstand the arrows ourselves. The gasoline is him drained/depressed and ready to end it all. While this video is beautifully done and truly a masterpiece, suicide is a real thing and if you or anyone you know suffers from depression and have serious thoughts about it, please reach out to the Suicide Hotline. They've helped a lot of us. 988lifeline.org/
Yeah, I like the way you see that. I had a very strange reaction to the song. I heard it first without the video and the term "hunger of the pine" conjured up an image of being pulled into pine boxes and swallowed by the earth... yeeeah there's some Covid anxiety in there. So thanks for your imagery, I feel better now...but not much...
Several years ago when I was working in Alaska I would sometimes take a kayak out with some cigarettes, a six pack, and a joint. I'd paddle out a few miles into the ocean and have a drink and a smoke and just feel the flow of the waves and enjoy the scenery. I'd go sit myself on some rocky bank and listen to some tunes and watch the birds and the ocean and the trees. This song reminds me of those times and I miss it so much.
The video is a metaphor to life's struggle, when we get hit , we fall and then we rise. There comes a point in our lives that we become strong and eventually our realisation of this pain will make us overcome, endure to confront pain and laugh at it and eventually destroy it.
Alright so I could be completely wrong but here's my go at interpreting this: "The pine" the song is referring to is pining for someone you love. This guy is willing to run through the onslaught of arrows to reach the woman he loves. I'm not really sure what to make of the end, maybe he sees she isn't there when he's finished running through the forest or maybe he realizes she isn't worth it, but the love and lack of reciprocation drives him so insane that he kills himself. Maybe by dying he's releasing himself from the anguish of unrequited love. You can find quite a bit of evidence for the pining and lack of reciprocation in the lyrics, including: "Sleeplessly embracing/Yawn yearns into me/Plenty more tears in the sea/And so you finally use it/Bedding with me you see at night/Your heart wears knight armour" The guy is so in love with the girl he can't sleep, and he's embracing her, but her heart is wearing armor, not letting him in. He then says "Realization grew on me/As quickly as it takes your hand/To warm the cool side of the pillow/I'm there for you, be there for me" This is him realizing that he would be there for her in a heartbeat but she is not the same way. The Miley Cyrus "female rebel" could be short view of her side of the story, that she's a female rebel and doesn't want to be tamed/held down by a man. Overall, this guy would take thousands of arrows for a girl who does not care about him, causing him to pine in a way that is extremely self-destructive.
ppl may have many interpretations to this ( you're more than welcome:-)I think it's probably an ancient Roman Greek reference to Artemis, the goddess of hunting, her weapon was the bow and arrow. Roman/Greek Gods and Goddesses were complex entities ,neither good or evil, but one thing they enjoyed were to test mortals to the limits. I presume she's testing him or hunting him down for he's a mere mortal . Her voice is echoing from behind to remind the listener and the character of her presence and power.
Or you could just read what the band said about it... > The lyrics mainly suggest the idea that missing someone - pining - can be a physical pain much like hunger.
Healing my Inner my wounded child and going on this next dream opportunity in spring, I love this song. God make me mentally strong & give me confidence that's all I want
When I watched it for the first time without reading comments: a man making an important journey of life; running away from something, towards something; his soul leaving pieces along the way, obliterated only to be reborn.
doliver911: "Hunger of the Pine means yearning for someone's love when they don't return it back. Each arrow is every time the person you love let's you down, rejects you, or does something to hurt your feelings. He doesn't die from all the arrows because like in real life, if you really love someone, nothing they do to hurt you will ever stop you trying. Until finally, you realise, self-destruction is the only option, a complete 'moving on', clean wipe. Thus the petrol, and the flamed arrows."
i know this will bring a happy thought on your side for just a second, but i'm sorry to hear that. i hope you are well at this time. thank you for your comment, just came to write something like this.
After 6 Years i think i understand this song, its about loving someone who dont love you and you break slow in pieces. Every Arrow show the Pain that you have and on the end you burn yourself for this Person to dont feel this pain anymore and forget it.
The definition of pine used here is not the tree, but the verb meaning to “suffer a mental and physical decline, especially because of a broken heart.” The lyrics mainly suggest the idea that missing someone - pining - can be a physical pain much like hunger."
+Jethro Brooks Best undestanding of the song lyrics and video performance until now.
+Jethro Brooks Seems to be one of those words that doesn't translate well between countries and culture, as Alt-J being from the UK (is it the UK?). Well anyways, I bet a majority of people who don't get it haven't even heard the expression, such as people here in America. Only reason I'm sure some people here understand is probably having read more English literature. Ah, getting lost in translation sure is fun.
exactly
so heavy
Arrows, love hurts. Still you live; in agony. During all stages of love.
+Jethro Brooks up to top man, thank you for the great explanation
+Jethro Brooks
I think it's also the "pine" is the arrows, that hunger to kill, the pine tree cut down, with "butterflies and needles line my seamed-up join."
It goes into the theme of war with "chain mail" and "your heart wears knight armour" and "I'll hum the song soliders sing"
Here is my interpretation of the song, It's about missing someone who's gone to war they are "pining" for them, but maybe it's also the arrow's "hunger to kill" they feel their loved one is in danger from the "pine"
though I'm not sure pining makes grammatical sense, as:
pining= longing
pine= long
hunger of the long (?)
for anyone wondering, the background vocals at the end are singing 'une immense espérance a traversé la terre, une immense espérance a traversé ma peur' which means 'A great hope has crossed the earth
, A great hope has crossed my fear'. it's a quote from Alfred de Musset’s poem L'espoir en Dieu (Hope in God), it's a really nice poem, i recommend reading it
Wow, thanks, I didn't know that.
www.poesie-francaise.fr/alfred-de-musset/poeme-l-espoir-en-dieu.php ;)
Very cool. Very cool indeed
Yoo foreal I never even thought to look into that for some reason. Thank you so much for this amazing little bit of info. After so many years watching this no one ever wrote this to my knowledge. I will check it out as well. Thanks again from the world of RUclips lol!
Hey, I'm unable to find "Une immense espérance a traversé ma peur" in that poem....
*gets shot in the heart* ... "i don't need that anyway" Keeps moving forward
adrian kelly *me, watching supernatural*
"You Never truly defeat your inner Demons, you only learn to live among them"
The arrows symbolize the pains and injuries, some hurt him, others don't, but no matter what, he keeps going.
In the beginning he has places to hide behind the trees, but as he grows, he leaves the forest to enter the grassland, leaving him without cover.
That's where he gets most of his wounds. He ultimately choses to stop running and face his fears.
He accepts his fate, surrenders all of itself, and stands up tall, making him invincible.
The arrows of fire symbolize the rebirth and purification (by the fire).
The end is a new beginning...
(Notice that you never see the inner Demons (the archers), they don't have a personification.)
A Masterpiece
Awesome interpretation! Thanks for sharing
Absolutely beautiful.
Wow I thought I was watching a hunger games spin off
a man of art
Sleeplessly embracing
Butterflies and needles
Line my seamed-up join
Encased in case I need it
In my stomach, for my heart
Chain mail
Hunger of the pine
Hunger of the pine
Sleeplessly embracing
Yawn yearns into me
Plenty more tears in the sea
And so you finally use it
Bedding with me you see at night
Your heart wears knight armour
Hunger of the pine
(I'm a female rebel)
(I'm a female rebel)
(I'm a female rebel)
Sleeplessly
Embracing
You
Realization grew on me
As quickly as it takes your hand
To warm the cool side of the pillow
I’m there for you, be there for me
I’ll hum the song the soldiers sing
As they march outside our window
Hunger of the pine
Sleeplessly
Embracing
Sleeplessly
Embracing
You
Sleeplessly
Embracing
(I'm a female rebel)
Sleeplessly
Embracing
You
Is it not "I'm a thief and rebel"
@@kevinj2525 no
Bless your soul
Yes, god bless you
Thanks !
But you forgot the chorus :
Une immense espérance a traversé la terre
Une immense espérance a traversé ma peur
Alt-J isn't meant to be heard ... it's meant to be felt.
Great comment!
What are their best songs? The Vaults cover brought me here.
absolutely
eye feel that ❤️💛💚🔥🙌🏾
@@Pacifica74taro is my favorite. By a far margin. I also love tesselatte.
PINE = Pīn/
suffer a mental and physical decline, especially because of a broken heart.
"she thinks I am pining away from love"
synonyms: languish, decline, weaken, waste away, wilt, wither, fade, sicken, droop; More
miss and long for the return of.
"I was pining for my boyfriend"
verb: pine; 3rd person present: pines; past tense: pined; past participle: pined; gerund or present participle: pining
fake
its about trees
It's a tree you dunce
I like your interpretation regardless if it's right or wrong. Great research and looking deeper into further meaning than that which is seen on the surface
@@NikoMoraKamu "The lyrics mainly suggest the idea that missing someone - pining - can be a physical pain much like hunger." literally from an interview with them
Such a good song, really made the Light No Fire game trailer shine. Absolutely hyped for this game, and so happy to have found a new favorite artist!
Same here, Absolutely hyped for the game and this band is FIRE.
Welcome, friends.
Welcome. Alt J is the truth.
@ruhrev why. Are you one of those gatekeeper people who gets all whiny when someone else finds something they like?
Just a person with a closed mind @@alasdairmackintosh
He starts off running from his pain. He decides instead to give his pain fuel and face it head on, because we are more resilient than our pain can possibly hurt.
Mark Mirabella but he was running for the liquid. Maybe we could give arrows a good connotation
Maybe the arrows are the roadblocks to the fuel for his life then when he gets to the fuel he is more vulnerable to the arrows, maybe hinting the dangers of growing up coming into an adult. Maybe
Yes.
Mark Mirabella Beautifully put. But you do realize that people commit suicide? Those are more than just a few.
@MarkMirabella That's a damn good interpretation you got there!
I'm so glad I found this band, imagine a life without listening to their music
That would be tragic and there are people who don’t feel anything for or never heard alt j I personally think that’s crazy
Alt j is an add to you character😂😂
Total accident just now searching for John Newman songs.... Happy accident. !!
Just discovered them now
now go find Phox, Horse Thief, Tricot, Dan Deacon, and My Morning Jacket!
Oh skit,
Foxygen, Dawes, Orville Peck, and MENOMENA especially. Though I think you'll like them all!
"Archers hate him! Watch what simple trick he used!"
Hub advert reference.... Noice!
Programmed Persona number 8 will shock you!
"Archers hate him! Scouts love him! Watch this short 3 minute video to learn his secret!"
bahahahaha
I love you
"realization grew on me as quickly as it takes your hand to warm the cold side of the pillow"
it hits everytime.
I happen to like the cold side of the pillow. Why the hell would you warm it?!
Sorry to burst out like that. My therapist says I'm a real hot head.
@@toddtomlinson3918I always interpreted it in that context. It's not a good kind of realization.
Rickon could learn something from this guy...
I was thinking the same thing
This is gold haha
the funny thing is the guy looks like ramsay
JAAAJAJAJAJAJAJA
I wonder if Dan Weiss/D. B. Weiss saw this and were like, "This would be dope."
TO UNDERSTAND THIS VIDEO READ THIS QUOTE:
‘Whom the gods love, die young’ was said of yore,
And many deaths do they escape by this:
The death of friends and that which slays even more,
The death of friendship, love, youth, all that is,
Except mere breath. And since the silent shore
Awaits at last even those whom longest miss
The old archer’s shafts, perhaps the early grave,
Which men weep over, may be meant to save.
That's beautiful. Thank you.
EuphoricTheory What's that from?
EuphoricTheory Didn't really understand it when i first read it but over the course of the video it slowly sun in. Completely turns what I thought the meaning was on its head and makes it a whole lot more beautiful. Thanks
+TheRealJikkler Extracts from Don Juan: Haidee and Juan by Lord Byron. ;-)
Explain in simple plz
Boromir would be proud
Top!
Please. It MUST be on the top.
omg YES
🤣🤣 genius
I would’ve followed you...
My brother
My captain
My king
This is what I felt surviving a mental illness. Manic depression from a brain injury. Every emotional blow was ten times the emotions it should have been and I felt like I was constantly wounded. I was always pouring compassion into others while I tried healing my incredible pain. My heartaches created constant sufferings, from others who betrayed or tried to hurt me and childhood. I would cry for hours regularly and then I made it all stop. You feel very triumphant when you heal something that severe. Like a king or a great warrior pulling yourself through every devastating experience. Every arrow a emotional wound aimed to break you down. But you keep running to survive to be strong to give your soul strength. To end the suffering. Until you're not afraid of death and rebirth anymore. You're not afraid of it. You have conquered the suffering. The arrows don't scare you and you're willing to feel them through and you won't let them take your soul. You'll go down by your own strength not any others. In other words no one gets to take you down only you. Therefore you are victorious. You'll fight until the end and you'll reach release on your own terms.
Thank you for this
being a person with depression and severe anxiety i hear you, and i completely agree with what you said. thank you for posting this
same here... but FUCK OUR DEMONS!! they will never win!! Cause I have decided so!
That’s What You Say Until You’re Faced With Actual Death , Then You’d Feel Afraid , There Isn’t A Moment On Earth Where People Want To Stay Alive More Than When They’re Dying . Trust Me I’ve Been There , And I Actually Tried To M*rder Myself , And Go Out On My Own Terms , Nothing Beautiful About That .
Maybe that’s all bipolar ever was. Emotional wounds so severe they create a crack in the psyche, two selves fighting for territory inside the body until they finally truly heal. Only through adversity can we see our true selves, we emerge victorious in our understanding of self and others. It’s okay that we took on this burden, because we are perhaps never truly given what we cannot handle.
Boromir's favorite music video.
Oh my god yes!!
im so tired of radiohead and nirvana fans, this guys and foals for me are better, i want listen music from my generation too
And Rickon's
Boom!
well dayum.... dont know if i should laugh or be upset.....
honestly, the music video made the song so much more amazing. there's something so beautiful, and creative, and just captivating by the video and the song. then again i love pretty much every alt-j song.
is this what it feel like to become an adult? like, the beggining you're attacked by reality(arrows) but your parents and family protect you (trees), then when you start growing up you're all vulnerable in an open field and alone, and in the end you accept the reality as it is and burst up in flames. obviously just my opinion
I am impressed by your response to this. A very real deep intuitive understanding of life, and considering you are not an adult, you are wise.
Lascaritsa M haha thank you for reading
moderator of /r/badphilosophy
No, the song reflects the pain of longing after someone. The arrows he's taking symbolize that pain.
good opinion tho...
After all these years, this is still one of the greatest music videos Ive seen in my lifetime.
I was an adventurer like you then I took many arrows to everything........ And fire.
+Tom Hearn ohMY GOD
+Tom Hearn i love that XD
+Tom Hearn Awe did someone steal your gasoline?
gawd damn it xD
lol
Sounds like Katniss Everdeen.
So....The New Hunger Games trailer looks great.
Lol, I thought that this was part of the soundtrack, the lyrics, it looks like it it's.
Sorry for my english i'm from Perú.
Andy Franco Yeah, me too =)
Your english is very good!
Yep! Thought the same thing as well ^_^
Yea and the best comes at the end "Un immense espérance à traversé ma peur' which means hope gone trough fear, so close to the Hunger games slogan "Hope is the only thing stronger than fear"! Gosh i love it
this trailer is for Hunger Games V Cupid 's Revenge.
Every time I return to alt-j I feel like I touched something sacred, esoteric. Any of alt-j’s music can be an anthem of my life.
Who's here for light no fire? 🔥🔥
Yessssssir
just hearing the song was so hype
What is "no fire" please? A serie ?
Yup.
@@TrashBettyBoop it's a new game by hello games, search for the trailer
Does anyone ever have dreams like this?? Where you run but never escape from whatever is chasing you?
people work better with goals! "how many"="little" "10k"=""8k and happy" ... glad i helped :)
also your dream means u dont like your life and u feel trapped... either living with your parents where u cant express yourself.. or a relationship or society in general... work on it... its not a good dream... and yes i know im 1year late but well... someone is going to win something from this comment :) so my work is done here! express yourself and stop running ... nobody is chasing... its all in our heads... dont get trapped into thinking how much other people think and judge you... its 10% of what we think usually... most people either wont give a fuck or have no time to give a fuck about what others do... the minority that gives too many fucks for others are sad people with 0 meaning in their life so... do u really think u should value them? :) have a great day!
@@mariamar473 truly
always and i hate it
i think fear is natural. and important.
when i was boy, i had a dream of something like a monster, taking me outdside, but then suddenly it was laid on the ground ; i defeat the fear even i don't fight ( i think it was just a manifestation of something i had to accept or to handle )
new Maze Runner trailer looks dope.
ikr
Facts
+MrEnKaye ooooh.... I thought it was Hunger Games
I am a depressed, dreamy, sad but hopeful young man. This song connects so deeply to me, it is wonderful.
2 YEARS LATER... how you doing buddy?
Me an you both buddy
never forget, we never suffer alone brother..
We are one, together always brothers.
@@Bryan-zo6ng doesnt look like hes doing too good
Thank you Light No Fire! 🎵🎵🎵🎵
just remembered this song bc of the trailer, what a masterpiece
Alt-J .... The world needs more deep and fantastic music like this.
I love how modern and old blend. It's a badly seen and joked about aspect in the video, but the man is wearing modern clothes and the arrows are old and hand-crafted. It just adds to the perfection of this video: Threats of all sources occasionally get you, but though you bear with you those past arrows, they don't stop you from putting that foot other foot through.
This is one of those songs that will never get old, no matter how many times I play it. So much love for alt-J
For me each arrow signifies past struggles in my life. Starting with my divorce, moving to covid, isolation, depression, self hate, self doubt.. etc.
The gasoline represents community, love, forgiveness, inner strength, finding ones self... in the end ultimately transcendence.
Love that.
Yeah, but it doesn't transform in real life. The only transformation of engulfing fire is death (after you took 10 arrows - two through the chest heart and throat).
Ok, who gave Katniss all of those fucking arrows.
Sorry
😂😂😂😂😂
Katniss wouldn't have missed that many times.
littleferrhis PETA!!!
And I'm dead
For some reason I think this video is uplifting
At least he chose his own death, and he endured all the arrows
There's something about strength, endurance, and freedom, about this video...
Wow! Loved the analysis 🙂 Made me watch it from another perspective.
I agree and saw it in the same light. His defiance and strength of spirit are inspiring. ;)
Hell yea I'd rather die on me feet then live on my knees
Milla G. The strength to choose ones death?
@@raptornugget5385 Pancho Villa
"Let's see who can take the most arrows in the back" - Life
sorry about your mom
Wolverine wins
As quoted in Shakespeare's Hamlet: "...the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune..."
poo to the poo we all do we not all better than you- Shitspears Hamlet
Diles46 crystal meth - father
I remember hearing this on Vampire Dairies and thinking, "Jesus, this is a F'ing seriously heavy tune" (similar to the scene/episode...that whole season). It's one of those songs that gives you goosebumps and hits your soul. I had to find it immediately... that was... several years ago. Still hits like the first time.
"Hunger Of The Pine"
Sleeplessly embracing
Butterflies and needles
Line my seamed-up join
Encased in case I need it
In my stomach, for my heart
Chain mail
Hunger of the pine
Hunger of the pine
Sleeplessly embracing
Yawn yearns into me
Plenty more tears in the sea
And so you finally use it
Bedding with me you see at night
Your heart wears knight armour
Hunger of the pine
(I'm a female rebel...)
Sleeplessly
Embracing
You
Realization grew on me
As quickly as it takes your hand
To warm the cool side of the pillow
I'm there for you, be there for me
I'll hum the song the soldiers sing
As they march outside our window
Hunger of the pine
Sleeplessly
Embracing
You
Une immense espérance a traversé la terre
Une immense espérance a traversé ma peur
***** lolwut
***** I make Life is Strange videos, and after making one where max dyes her hair blue and a bunch of funny stuff happens, I decided I'd make blue haired max my avatar.
Jared Murray time for what?
Jared Murray It's time to get Funky!
Funky
Everybody clap your hands
Clap clap clap clap your hands
Clap clap clap clap your hands
Jared, thank you very much! You answered to a very important question for me.
If the actor in this video would read my little message (which he probably won't, but I'll write it anyway), I would tell him: Your piercing gaze, big variety of expressions and your ability to move in the flight is amazing. If one didn't know that the arrows merely were effects I think it would be easy to mistake this for the real deal. It's amazing how you manage to make it look like you're actually hit by them and feel pain by them. I think things will only get better for you!
His names ashley holland if your wondering
I am crushing hard on him. He’s a famous free runner and he goes by the nickname Spyder. You’re so right - his performance in this video is stellar!
This guy: *gets shot through the chest* *keeps running*
Me: *gets cramp in a toe* *gets ready for death*
+morgan taylor Same
Stupid video :P
im ur 100th like mate
#197
lol
This reminds me of the story of Chiron. The half mortal, half immortal centaur (Saggitarius) who gets wounded and his mortal side feels the pain but his immortal side won't allow him to die. Eventually he accepts the pain and requests that Zeus allow him to become fully mortal and just die. Moved, Zeus turns him fully immortal instead. Zeus here is represented by the physical laws of science and chemistry: arrows and fire. On his quest for a cure before he accepts his predicament, Chiron heals many others. This is represented by us the watchers of the video, and our relationship to the man on the screen helping us process pain of some kind by providing catharsis. The fire represents either death or immortality.
I don’t think this comment will ever get the credit it deserves ☢️☢️☢️
👏 thank you
My wonderful partner died last year of the cancer that he had had for ten years and had struggled to heal from. He liked alt J and this was one of his favourite songs and I remember him showing me this video. Like Chiron he was a very gifted teacher who worked with special needs children who often had suffered trauma and like Chiron he had a wound himself (derived from trauma from his childhood that manifested itself in cancer) that in the end he submitted to.(he refused the treatment by the end, as it was ruining his body and causing a lot of suffering) He was born in the critical degree of Sagittarius. I told him the story of Chiron and how Zeus made him immortal and placed him in the stars. I feel he played out this deep Sagittarian myth in his life, expressing the highest of Sagittarian values. He will always be immortal to me......but boy, I wish he was still with us.
@@cassandra2249 I'm so sorry about your loss
what a great interpretation! thank you!
This dude puts Boromir to shame.
+Bordje Dude, you made my day. Fuck that peasent, this guy should be king of Gondor.
You just won the comment section :)
Son of Alcatel
djfrank203 Sorry, forigve me.
I tear up whenever I think about boromir.
This is one of my favourite songs, ever. That is all.
So Boromir had a son !
The first thought I had
He was a snow though
LOL
I shouldn’t have laughed
If you are listening to this while you're high af... then good luck you're going to need it. Close your eyes and sit back, you're about to be sent to another world
Bruh what did you do to piss off every elf in middle earth.
lmao
Hahahah jerk good one!
+Alec Apparcel He said they all look the same
+Alec Apparcel Its obviously not Middle Earth, they're missing too much :P
+Alec Apparcel asked them where have all the males gone o:
something unspeakably fascinating about this video
Cinnamanster A or gruesome
Lesson of the day:
Never steal shit from Legolas.
Best comment thus far.
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They should have taken this guy instead of Boromir. This guy can take an arrow.
Don't underestimate Ashe arrows :D
Fuck, that got me.
Light No Fire gunna bring this song back into the fold when it releases
This is what happens when you give storm troppers bows.
these guys really need some shooting lessons
hauhauahsua sim
No because the point of a mass of bowman is for greatest area of effect. Do none of you know old timely war tactics? ;A;
KocoBean They use those tactics on a lrage volume of people not i single person. So theyre definitely storm troopers.
how to mark you as a BR sua zuera
I think i understood this music video's deep meaning,
- The gasoline price is to die for!
lol nailed it
Nice!
Konrad Niklasson Lol no but nice try.
***** - Adam
that didnt age well lol
When you share your opinions online
Beth Gaulter I know that more than anyone 😂 #RUclipsr
Hahahaha! Sweet!
LOL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA was not expecting this, well done
Beth Gaulter here's your 100th upvote
Light No Fire brought me here. Great song.
Well, at least everyone who doesn't like Miley's music (including myself) can thank her for her contribution to this flabbergastingly incredible song.
Banana's love it truly a MASTERPEICE...
What does WRECKINGBALL mean?
lol oh!!!
This beats Wrecking Ball any day, listening to this song rn on my massive sound system and feeling so many things 😍😩😄😑
Rite WRECKINGBALL don't have shit on HUNGER OF THE PINE...
Best music ever, best clip ever, best singer ever, alt j you are my hero. you make me fly.
I don't know what it is but I swear this dude looks like he can be in upcoming 2022 game trailer. He looks real but he also looks highly edited.
yeah, legit why i clicked on the video lol
Detroit: Become Human whomst?
@Rosen Ovcharov there is, it has something good in it, its a girly game though
@@antonio_ws6 it's called Life is Strange, it's not a girly game, I played it myself and I thought it was beautiful. It's makes you realize how fucked up society is. But it also really makes you feel like you're in the game and you get really engaged with the characters. I played it because of Alt-J but it was really worth it :)
Exactly what i was thinking! He doe not look like a real human.
@@mkpowner Probably filled to the brim with sjw bullshit and allegory
Light no Fire made me happy again.
This is probably my favorite video by alt-J. It's the most similar to what I imagine in my head.
Sleeplessly embracing
Butterflies and needles
Line my seamed-up join
Encased in case I need it
In my stomach, for my heart
Chain mail
Hunger of the pine
Hunger of the pine
Sleeplessly embracing
Yawn yearns into me
Plenty more tears in the sea
And so you finally use it
Bedding with me you see at night
Your heart wears knight armour
Hunger of the pine
(I'm a female rebel...)
Sleeplessly
Embracing
You
Realization grew on me
As quickly as it takes your hand
To warm the cool side of the pillow
I'm there for you, be there for me
I'll hum the song the soldiers sing
As they march outside our window
Hunger of the pine
Sleeplessly
Embracing
You
Une immense espérance a traversé la terre
Une immense espérance a traversé ma peur
+Beau Hi :D thanks for the lyrics ;)
Cucas 360 You're welcome :D
You're the real MVP
I think Hunger of The Pine has one of the best melodies ever created by Alt-J.
"A great hope has crossed the earth,
A great hope has crossed my fear"
This song is so magical, like all of Alt-j's songs. But this song feels more, I don't know, delicate? Yeah. It's so gentle yet so powerful. This song really is a gift.
This would be great for the Hunger Games: Mockingjay soundtrack.
I feel like they are trying to land a place on the soundtrack.
I hope they do. :3
The guy would be great in the actual hunger games if there was one, he's a pro freerunner :) Ashley Holland is his name (his nickname is 'Spyder')
Why? Because of the arrows?
The song's lyrics and meaning have nothing to do with Mockingjay.
No. The song fits with the theme of the song. You're the only person who has disagreed with me. Chill.
I lose my shit every time I hear 01:53 -- that additional beat being layered it??? OMFG.
I do every time the third "yoouu" hits.
Welcome to everyone who discovered Alt-J after the Light No Fire trailer!
hi
So no ones gonna talk about how good this song is??
If you haven't heard alt-J's other songs i would highly recommend you check em out.
Some of my favorites are Breezeblocks, Fitzpleasure, Tesselate, Nara, Left Hand Free, In Cold Blood, 3WW, Mrs, Blood flood, and bloodflood part 2 just to name a few
no need to
Oh youbet we know
it is just (nearly) perfect.. ;)
What do you mean, that's the whole comments section?
Imagine if this whole thing was just Chris Pine eating the whole time.
😂
Owo that's some dEeP mEaNiNg, just like in Alt-J style
Would be hot
That is an excellent concept. You should edit that together.
Missed opportunity for sure
It seems so simple, but that's the trick. The acting, editing, music, effects, cinematography, lighting, drone shots. They friggen nailed all of it. Tracking those shots for the arrows must have been hard work. Perfectly executed...pardon the pun. To come up with a concept like this and execute it perfectly is a real talent.
Bro the arrows are cgi lol
as in tracking the forest behind him and the movement to get the arrows in. Tracking the shots FOR the arrows. As in for the arrows to be put in. Tracking a background with so much moving greenery is really tricky. I didn't word that properly, sorry.
Sean Murray and Hello Games taking the negativity left and right but still standing ready to Light A Fire with a new game. Also this music is top notch. Will be checking out the rest of your work.
An immense hope across the Land.
omg mute the video, open a new tab and play breezeblocks at the same time as this it fits so well
+Turbo Hypez OMG!
+DevoutestLemon OOOhh nice... Mute breezeblocks video and Play Hunger for the pine fits too.
I trid it but didn t work for me :/
Oh man... you would probably have to reload both tabs if you are using chrome
It works vice-versa too!!
Nabil's imagery is powerful here and he did a great job with this video. The openness of the interpretation is so great with this. My interpretation is that this shows a man's walk (run) through life (the forest and field) while dealing with issues of this world (the arrows) that leads him to depression and self-sabatoge (pouring gasoline on himself) to accept his fate and end it all on his own terms (turning around to the wave of flaming arrows without running).
You know what I'm hinting at. The forest symbolizes our teen years where we were cared for by others and even though there were hardships, we had (if we were fortunate enough) family to help take care of them. The arrows would hit the trees (our family) and block most of the shots. The field the man runs into symbolizes us leaving the comforts and protections of our family; moving out to live on our owns. There's no trees to block the arrows. Everything falls on us to outrun or withstand the arrows ourselves. The gasoline is him drained/depressed and ready to end it all.
While this video is beautifully done and truly a masterpiece, suicide is a real thing and if you or anyone you know suffers from depression and have serious thoughts about it, please reach out to the Suicide Hotline. They've helped a lot of us. 988lifeline.org/
was a bit confused from the video tbh, but i really like your interpretation.
Yeah, I like the way you see that. I had a very strange reaction to the song. I heard it first without the video and the term "hunger of the pine" conjured up an image of being pulled into pine boxes and swallowed by the earth... yeeeah there's some Covid anxiety in there. So thanks for your imagery, I feel better now...but not much...
Several years ago when I was working in Alaska I would sometimes take a kayak out with some cigarettes, a six pack, and a joint. I'd paddle out a few miles into the ocean and have a drink and a smoke and just feel the flow of the waves and enjoy the scenery. I'd go sit myself on some rocky bank and listen to some tunes and watch the birds and the ocean and the trees. This song reminds me of those times and I miss it so much.
This gives me chills. It's such an accurate depiction of life. _Love_ it.
The video is a metaphor to life's struggle, when we get hit , we fall and then we rise. There comes a point in our lives that we become strong and eventually our realisation of this pain will make us overcome, endure to confront pain and laugh at it and eventually destroy it.
maria s really good but there is something about women specifically
According to Pitchfork:
Alt-j - This Is All Yours = 4.0/10
Ariana Grande - My Everything = 7.7/10
Wow.
Haha pitchfork blows, it's all a bunch of hip people who worry more about music than their actual lives. This album is purely amazing.
According to Sputnik (they rate out of 5):
Alt-J - This Is All Yours: 4.5
Ariana Grande - My Everything: 2.0
I agree with Sputnik a lot more haha
Mary Varvaris Actually it's
Alt-J - This is all yours: 3.3
Ariana Grande - My Everything: 2.8
I'll give you this. I Still agree with sputnik more.
Just goes to show that Pitchfork is a fucking joke. They probably hate Alt-J because they're "too popular" now.
Today's new word is: opinion.
I love reading comments on RUclips. Such smart people interpreting and sharing their own meanings. Makes the music even better.
Alright so I could be completely wrong but here's my go at interpreting this:
"The pine" the song is referring to is pining for someone you love. This guy is willing to run through the onslaught of arrows to reach the woman he loves. I'm not really sure what to make of the end, maybe he sees she isn't there when he's finished running through the forest or maybe he realizes she isn't worth it, but the love and lack of reciprocation drives him so insane that he kills himself. Maybe by dying he's releasing himself from the anguish of unrequited love. You can find quite a bit of evidence for the pining and lack of reciprocation in the lyrics, including:
"Sleeplessly embracing/Yawn yearns into me/Plenty more tears in the sea/And so you finally use it/Bedding with me you see at night/Your heart wears knight armour"
The guy is so in love with the girl he can't sleep, and he's embracing her, but her heart is wearing armor, not letting him in.
He then says "Realization grew on me/As quickly as it takes your hand/To warm the cool side of the pillow/I'm there for you, be there for me"
This is him realizing that he would be there for her in a heartbeat but she is not the same way.
The Miley Cyrus "female rebel" could be short view of her side of the story, that she's a female rebel and doesn't want to be tamed/held down by a man.
Overall, this guy would take thousands of arrows for a girl who does not care about him, causing him to pine in a way that is extremely self-destructive.
ppl may have many interpretations to this ( you're more than welcome:-)I think it's probably an ancient Roman Greek reference to Artemis, the goddess of hunting, her weapon was the bow and arrow. Roman/Greek Gods and Goddesses were complex entities ,neither good or evil, but one thing they enjoyed were to test mortals to the limits. I presume she's testing him or hunting him down for he's a mere mortal . Her voice is echoing from behind to remind the listener and the character of her presence and power.
yes well done maria had vid to interprit you could be right
Or you could just read what the band said about it...
> The lyrics mainly suggest the idea that missing someone - pining - can be a physical pain much like hunger.
When people look too deep into shit haha i always find this shit funny.
Artemis is Greek AND Roman? huh
maria s
I GOT CHIIIILLLLLLSSS THEY'RE MULTIPLYING!
*Me, everytime when i hear this song*
i love this.
Lmao ♥
Healing my Inner my wounded child and going on this next dream opportunity in spring, I love this song. God make me mentally strong & give me confidence that's all I want
Still one of my favorite songs ever. I love this darker stuff
Still one of the most perfect songs ever composed
I dig most of it but for some reason the repetition of "I'm a female rebel" is throwing me off
@@totallyrealcia I think of it as Mother Nature
When I watched it for the first time without reading comments: a man making an important journey of life; running away from something, towards something; his soul leaving pieces along the way, obliterated only to be reborn.
❤️🃏
Here from Light No Fire by Hello Games. Absolute banger right here.
The most experimental and one of their best tracks.
doliver911: "Hunger of the Pine means yearning for someone's love when they don't return it back. Each arrow is every time the person you love let's you down, rejects you, or does something to hurt your feelings. He doesn't die from all the arrows because like in real life, if you really love someone, nothing they do to hurt you will ever stop you trying. Until finally, you realise, self-destruction is the only option, a complete 'moving on', clean wipe. Thus the petrol, and the flamed arrows."
This band consistently has amazing music videos. I love them all.
For someone that deals with pure, never ending depression.
This hits you different
I deal with it too luv
i know this will bring a happy thought on your side for just a second, but i'm sorry to hear that. i hope you are well at this time. thank you for your comment, just came to write something like this.
And we will never give up nor surrender. I hope this finds you well.
Don’t surrender. We can’t. We will make it.
If all is not well in the end. Then it is not the end. Peace and love always
Here I am from Light No Fire.🎉🎉🎉
I come back to this every time i feel down & I get my work done afterwards.
The cinematography + the score in this makes it the perfect blend of storytelling :)
Not ashamed to say light no fire brought me here
This is a special song.
Never give up, even though sometimes you have to let go
Came here from Light No Fire, stayed here for the music!
After the game awards were over, finding this song was my first priority. Beautiful.
when you about to die but your stamina is still full in Skyrim
ahahah this
if that was a guard he would be retired
hahaha
I used to be an adventurer like you but then 2:00
NICE :D
*One of the best bands ever...epic songs*
Whoa, this thing is insane.
Heyy, I didn't know PoPS listened to AltJ! Episode 9 pls
Some time in the next 12 months. And Alt-J is one of my all time favorites. ∆!
Sweet, me too. Can't wait for the rest of the album
Isn't alt j amazing?
Eli the Great Yes :) I love them. Such a beautiful song
After 6 Years i think i understand this song, its about loving someone who dont love you and you break slow in pieces. Every Arrow show the Pain that you have and on the end you burn yourself for this Person to dont feel this pain anymore and forget it.
nah