My Issue With the God of the Gaps: There Must be Something Before the Universe | Neil deGrasse Tyson
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2024
- In this captivating video featuring Neil deGrasse Tyson, we tackle the intriguing concept of the "God of the Gaps" and the essential question of what, if anything, existed before the universe. Tyson challenges the notion that God serves as a mere explanation for the unknown, urging us to think critically about the implications of attributing gaps in our scientific understanding to divine intervention. Through engaging insights and compelling arguments, we explore the necessity of seeking deeper explanations that extend beyond traditional beliefs. Whether you’re a science enthusiast or a curious skeptic, join us for a thought-provoking discussion that promises to reshape your perspective on existence itself. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share your thoughts in the comments!
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“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.” -Richard Dawkins
“You can wake up as a man then go to lunch and be a woman and by the time you get home you can decide to be a man again.”-Neil Smokindagrass Tyson
@@LoggerMane "Geez it's easy to make up strawman quotes when you don't understand what people are actually are saying" - dumbshits.
Dawkins was wrong about other shit too.
Tyson said 40% of American Scientists pray to a higher power...
You seem satisfied to openly ignore many facts when they do not support your arrogance.
A good scientist should be able to accept that he does not understand everything yet, there may be more to discover, he may even be wrong!
He's right, religion teaches humility, 'nature is the executor of God's laws' as Galileo said, that's why a theist has less problem, questioning overly simplistic theories like steady state or Darwinism, they are not afraid of the implications of finding more underlying complexity.
There is a big assumption in that statement. I don't know any religious person who delights in not knowing things.
I can understand every thing going on under the hood of a car, and yet I still believe the car has a designer, creator, engineers, etc. I don't look for something unexplainable as my only acceptable evidence of a designer. I once was unable to understand why the only evidence atheists will accept for God is fantasy-story magic. But now I realize I know EXACTLY why they will only accept that as evidence--so they can go on saying "There is no evidence."
A car engine is evidence of an engineer, even though I don't see the engineer plastered into his own engine. A painting is evidence of a painter. All of creation is overwhelming evidence of the Creator.
Religion doesn't have a leg to stand on!
It gives people a story they can use understand the world. But it's about having that story, not what t it says....
Weren't both legs nailed to the cross?
It’s merely a flesh wound. ;)
Neither do whales or asteroids 🤷♂️
But, remove it, and Western society has no foundation to stand on.
most religious people dismiss other peoples gods both present and in the past.. but they cling to there own version when there is little difference. All gods are magicians(without the sleight of hand trick human magician's use)
Could it be other gods are demon spirits part of Greek mythology
@@ronhansen8471 it talks of other “gods” in the bible. People dont speak on it enough
as soon as something doesnt fit, they remake god.
Really? Is that a statement of fact or are you just floating this thing?
“Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong.” -Christopher Hitchens
not at all. Each god could have their own area in the cosmos..it is big enough to share.
@@johnpro2847
Each imaginary being, you mean?
It's inconceivable that all scientists are right. Therefore.......
@@johnpro2847 Except that (almost) every religion claims that they adhere to the one truth and all other religions are wrong. Therefore, as stated, they cannot all be right.
"Since it's obviously inconceivable that every scientific theory could be right, the obvious conclusion is that every theory must be wrong." - some other idiot with an idiotic agenda to support.
Your compilations are first rate! I love the production and the juxtaposition of different conversations. Brilliant!
Zeus is a very jealous god and we must never make him angry.
Zues is a demon god once a spirit creature in the spirit world. The spirit world is a world not subject to the laws of physics.
We must give thanks for zeus praise zeus all mighty
However, Zeus loves graven images, idols, statues. If you don’t make any of those to depict Zeus , you are committing sin against Zeus.
Ahhh 😌 There is intelligent life on the internet! ✌️
There is intelligent life on Earth too...................But I'm just visiting.
Is e=mc2 valid?
@@martinblank-d2n Yes it is, incoming ridiculous religious claim based in fantasy is my guess on your response.
@@seanrunyan8889 So you know Matter and Energy are interchangeable than? What about The Law of conservation of Mass is this valid? Matter can't be created nor destroyed. What about Chemical Equilibrium? Is this valid? All chemical reactions CAN go backward and forward. What about All spacetime being connected is this valid? Do you see a pattern?
@@martinblank-d2n 🤡
Mr Neil DeGrasse Tyson is the Greatest Exponent of Critical thinking and reasoning in the Beauty and Grandeur of our Universe..I salute You ..this is a Great Discourse Sir ❤❤❤
Who created the beauty and grandeur of our Universe? God.
Scientists like the rest of us are creations.
Neil deGrasse Tyson for President !
No way!
The funny thing about "the God of the Gaps" is that those gaps have been continuously growing smaller over time.
As long as that god falls through the gaps or cracks then I am content. Just waiting for the day when god is swept away into the dustbin of history!
I would go a step beyond Neil's limits of freedom of religion and include the rights of others as well. When your religious belief infringes on someone's rights, it must be limited. I'm certain Neil would agree, but he didn't articulate it as such.
As someone who believes in God I agree. America was started because we fled the church of England because they forced their religion on people or they died. Who gets to decide whose religion is right or wrong? So church and the Gov should never become one. Take care
And the limit should extend to children. Children have the right not to be indoctrinated into a religion.
Every time there's a new scientific discovery, god gets evicted from another gap.
Even if science fills all the gaps, there's still this black hole called philosophy, where god is safe from science. And then there are people who reject scientific knowledge. There will always be religion.
Science works with truth.
Politics & Religion does not.
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I long for the day when a human being proofreads and fixes the captions.
"That just proves our god is cleverer than we thought."
--Hitchens, channeling apologists reacting to scientific discoveries that preclude magic.
Neil is a genius! ❤❤❤
What is funny about religions is they are never ever stop their unseen beliefs 😂🤣😂
The religious also have to stay out of women’s bodily autonomy. The religious should not be allowed to train children in nonsense, or habituate them in unhealthy levels of cognitive dissonance.
At what age does the right of bodily autonomy kick in?
@@PapaBear-k4k I can give you two answers.
The first is the only answer that is simply rational: about the time the fetus is viable, could survive outside the uterus. About the beginning of the third trimester.
The second is when the culture says the fetus has rights of autonomy. This, naturally, is based on irrational beliefs, not any objective standard.
Religions create arbitrary morality based on irrational beliefs: that is why they disagree among themselves. It is also why the various churches actually evolve their « absolute » moralities over time: if their moralities were absolute, determined by an unchanging god, then the morality would always be the same. (E.g., All Christians accepted slavery. Now few do. All Christians accepted child marriage. Now many fewer do.)
Rational ethics, by the way, cannot prevent ethical quandaries. There will always be competing interests. But at least the quandaries are identified as such.
@@oldpossum57 Survive on its own, or with medical assistance? Many full term babies born alive can easily die on the back table without medical assistance, while a day-old embryo can be safely removed from the uterus and frozen for later reimplantation. And also, if late term abortion is something that "never happens" as Kamala Harris recently claimed in support of abortion (despite about 10k-15k/year, most for elective reasons) why not accept limits on the practice? Most pro-abortion advocates absolutely refuse to even consider such restrictions on a practice they claim never happens.
Love it or hate it all parents indoctrinate their children even by the lives they live before them. Some children while watching their parents learn to be racist or a drug addict or to beat women. But I agree children should be taught certain things at home and not left up to the Government. Take care
@@oldpossum57 I see bodily autonomy as a derivative of the right to exist (life). Perhaps you see it differently, so at what age do you think the right to exist kicks in?
I went to The Gap down at the mall, but God wasn’t working that day.
He’s the god of the Gaps, so he was probably just at another location that day. They say he is everywhere, but I'm betting when it comes to hands-on retail management, that isn't the case.
You shouldn't have gone on a Saturday.
He wasn’t working but he was still peeping in the changing rooms 😂
Religion makes you feel guilty for enjoying yourself.
"People are not disturbed by things, but by the views they take of them. "
-Epictetus
Everything is natural, there is absolutely no need for a god!!!
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
If it could be proved that some sort of god exists then scientists would accept the findings however if a negative could be proved ie that god does not exist and never has done then I doubt very much that the religious would change their minds. Therein lies the difference.
I think it makes more sense to worship the sun. We can actually see it and it makes life possible.
This is why so many people worshiped the sun without it we wouldn't exist period no matter what you believe in
I have been anointed by the cosmos. "Without guilt, there could be no religion" Me.
So why didn’t GOD explain the Universe in the first place? Why wouldn’t he explain all the mysteries? Instead, apparently he created a bunch or myths for humans to “ figure out”😂😂😂😂😂
Possibly for the same reason we don't try to teach Calculus to infants.
People can barely understand simple traffic directions and you think they can handle the full unabridged complexity of the universe?
The problem with your point is that the bible doesn't merely simplify how the universe works, it gets it incredibly wrong.
@@DanielRodriguez-zj5il The bible is a manmade construct. It is just another poor attempt to explain and rationalize the world the authors were experiencing at the time it was written. Just because it or the people who follow it's writing, claim it to be the "Word'(s) of God doesn't make it inherently true, at least no more true than Aristotelian Celestial Spheres. The bible being an incoherent mess when trying to explain the universe does not negate the possibility of a Higher Intelligence or Power; One does not preclude the other.
I got a peek behind the curtain 7 years ago. You won’t believe what we are 😊, but you keep coming back until you are fully realized. Religion? Nope. Light and Love? ❤❤❤. Yes!
Can you say that without the poetic language?
** Before the Biblical Universe, Orion... the Religion of Thor **
Plato's Hermocrates Dialogue was written in 360BC. It contains all the Graenlandr Sagas. A little background on the Norse death goddess for you:
1. Helen of Macedon is the daughter of Gaea, mother earth. Helen was the dehydrated version. Thus, she was half human, half corpse. Macedon is northern Hellas (Greece)
2. Helen of Macedon was a Crimean Witch, she was mother to the northern tribes of Roma (Romulus), the Argonauts took her to Crete to be consort to the reigning Zeus (Poseidon).
3. Helen of Sparta was the retired consort to Zeus, she was a She-Wolf, the Lupa, mother to the southern tribes of Roma (Remus).
4. Helen of Sparta had a son named Tiberius. You will find their itinerations throughout history. They founded Villa Nova Roma, which became Rome.
5. Tiberius Sempronius Gracchus brought all the 300lb. gladitorial looking men of Rome to America in 133BC, it is the basis of the Spartacus mythology.
6. Tiberius Sempronius Gracchus founded the Religion of Thor on the Midgaard Serpent of the Mississippi River. Winter campsite Teotihuacan.
7. Jormungandr World Serpent Dragon, Rheingold Maidens from Alexandria went to Cape Verde to Bravalla Moor at the mouth of the Amazon River.
8. Jormungandr World Serpent Dragon, Atlantean trek from Ethiopia to Gold Coast 500BC, Cape Verde to Bravalla Moor to Machu Picchu, to the Orient, Eiriksdottir mythology.
9. Ouroborus Dragon, Erik the Red circles the Appalachian Mountains to Vineland, when finished Liefr Eirikson, attacked 986AD at Oak Island, moved inland to Alexandria MN.
10. Hel is a descendant of Helen of Macedon, she was stationed in Peru with the Jaguar Skye Gods, they would go to Temple Uppsala in Sweden with the Berserkers.
11. Battle of Uppsala Sound took place in 791AD when Christianity converted Temple Uppsala. Thought to be a land battle, they were taken by sea.
12. Phoenician Vikings returned from America in 793AD in response, lost the Greenland Bridge in 1066AD. Skraelingr and Stave Uprising in 1068AD.
For those wishing to quote bible stories, please use the condensed version.
Condensed milk, can be used in coffee and tea.
I have noticed in recent years that the religious are distancing themselves from the word 'faith'. It's a bad word now.
'But you have faith too' they say as if they are pointing out some dirty secret or hypocrisy.
Sir, I wish I could express myself the way you do. I have so much respect for you
God. Messenger. Is. Me. My. Hand. On. Your. Souls. Is. Mine
Neil,
I’d like to see you debate Hugh Ross on your understanding of creation. I don’t think Hugh uses the gap theory in his explanation.
Never heard of the guy, but if he believes in creation, then he certainly does.
I'm past religion, but as an Engineer, how did that first piece of dust particle form, in order for the Known Universe to exist? My mind requires something to build with.
I think the issue may be arising from your characterization of the singularity as dust. It was most certainly energy without material form. Dust came far later after the energy condensed into hydrogen and formed stars. The reason the energy condensed into hydrogen seems to be for no other reason than that’s the simplest element. Then stellar nucleosynthesis occurred forming all elements through the process of fusion. This works up to the element iron. Fusing past iron requires supernova sized stars and energy to be created. So yeah. Energy in the “beginning” expanding to “start” time and space. From where did the energy come or what is beyond this singularity we have no way of possibly knowing.
I am afraid you are tending to religion again instead of excepting that we do not have all the answers yet.
@@carel20081**Accepting and yes. We don't know and still have more to learn
It’s a fair question and one worth investigating. But the answer isn’t magic.
@@ivancliff2514 I agree that the Planck unit is a boundary beyond which we cannot know at the beginning of the inflation. That said, even in the singularity there would be random quantum fluctuations.
Great guy ! 👍
Right on, Neal!
Awesome video!
Thanks!
Neil could have easily created a better universe
"When I look at the universe in all the ways the universe wants to kill us, I find it hard to reconcile that with statements of beneficence." As seen thru the eyes of a materialist (one who thinks reality is only made up of matter and energy) the underlying assumptions with regard to beneficence (misspelled in the video text) is one of material benefit, e.g., feeding 5000 with just a few loaves and fishes. And indeed, this has been the major focus of religions founded on the god-of-the-gaps where some deity is credited with the actions of natural forces (an assumed consciousness behind volcanoes erupting or lightening striking). Evolutionary religions were founded on attempting to influence these supposed deities thru bribery of some sort... offering up valued things or people (virgins) so as to dissuade them from wreaking havoc. But over time, there was a de-coupling of the deity concept with their original source material. Yahweh started out as a volcano god and evolved conceptually into a more generalized concept of an all powerful force/being.
Not clearly understood by most people is that there were times when celestial beings incarnated on our planet to teach us about spirituality, and about a spiritual deity, one who is unrelated to any forces of nature. As these incarnations were temporary events (Adam and Eve, Melchizedek and Jesus), their spiritual concepts got intermingled with the evolutionary religious concepts, still rooted to some degree with god-of-the-gaps thinking. Thus the distinction between material benefits and spiritual benefits is/was not particularly foremost in anyone's mind, particularly not in the mind of a materialist.
My experience of "beneficence" has been one of love, not loaves or fishes. (Although I will allow as how our Divine Father-friend may have had a hand in directing celestial beings in orchestrating my heart transplant and related events happening when they did.) Thus the harshness of the rigors of living are completely unrelated to inspired solutions to spiritual problems. That a materialist, even a brilliant one like Neil, will necessarily be blind to spiritual forms of beneficence, should be easy to understand. He has obviously not experienced the Father's Love like I have.
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
0:37 the captioning says "odd" when NDT meant "awed." Granted, the two words sound almost identical, but they don't mean the same thing.
If we can say there was something before the Big Bang, why is not ok for other scientists to say their philosophy is God prior to that. Their theory can be wrong, but that is just like any other theory once evidence proves it one way or the other. Disagreements/debates can be had just like every other argument in science until theories are proven. Faith can be maintained nonetheless, and science remains as well. The classroom debate is a Church and State situation other than in higher education debates where it belongs.
Tyson is a master of everything. Not just physics, but everything except UAP. A master of everything !
I think you said it best when you said the earth was created before the sun, according to the bible. That can't be so, when over a million earths would fit into the sun. We are not the center of the universe, our galaxy, our solar system, it's humbling but you have to face reality.
The subtitle says "odd" in stead of "awed" - slightly different connotation.
I can understand why, if someone does not understand something, and has no scientific background or questing mind, then it is perfectly logical that they might invent a god and say"God must have done that". But what is not logical, or rational is that they then extrapolate that god concept into a god that is an intelligent entity, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, and an all loving personal god. That is just bizarre. There is no reason why these attributes should be applied to this god, other than people wanting their god to display these attributes because the feel more comfortable having a god like this in their lives. But wanting it so, does not make it so.
If there was anything in the universe that would be perfectly self evident, it would be an all powerful, all knowing god that believers claim made all the pretty flowers.
Why is it so hard to say, i don't know, instead of jumping into a one sided relationship with a god character that can't be proven past the pages of some holy book?
He says it himself: "Your mind is still within the cosmos." So the cosmos is thinking through you good sir, on this most fundamental question of itself? Here is a Mystery: who then is seeking what?
Do the people using the god of the gaps argument at least consider the possibility that it's a different god than theirs?
"My problem with the god of the gaps is, if you feel that way, you shouldn't be writing the science curriculum of a classroom."
My problem with that rationale is that it implies knowledge to the contrary while simultaneously disavowing such belief, so as to dishonestly eschew the need to justify the assent to the proposition. The mere act of engaging in the argument in the first place exposes the presence of a bias against the idea; and a bias _is_ belief. To pretend that one is neutral under those conditions is deceptive. If you believe that no such entity exists, own it, justify it, and quit hiding behind an "absence" of belief.
Nope, it doesn't imply knowledge to the contrary.
It implies that according to current evidence we know something and what we don't know is because we don't have evidence for it.
So asserting a deity where we have no evidence for one is incorrect.
It's not saying no deities exist. It's saying there's no current evidence for any deity.
Anyone asserting that a deity exists in a gap is doing so incorrectly because they are not following the evidence.
And if you can't follow the evidence then you shouldn't be teaching.
@@lurch666
There is evidence, and the adamant refusal to acknowledge it doesn't change that.
Evidence can take a variety of forms. For example, there is analogical evidence, anecdotal evidence, character evidence, circumstantial evidence, corroborative evidence, demonstrative evidence, digital evidence, documentary evidence, emotional evidence, empirical evidence, expert opinion evidence, forensic evidence, habit evidence, hearsay evidence, personal experience evidence, physical evidence, prima facie evidence, statistical evidence, symbolic evidence, testimonial evidence, and trace evidence. Most, if not all of these, are admissible in court _as evidence,_ whether anyone considers them _sufficient, conclusive, or compelling_ or not. They _are_ forms of evidence; and _everyone,_ self-identifying atheists included, has been presented with at least one of these. So, when people say there is "no evidence" for a deity, *they're obviously LYING.* The Watchmaker argument is an example of analogical evidence. Sacred texts are examples of documentary evidence. The words of the clergy are examples of expert witness evidence. Proselytization is an example of testimonial evidence. It doesn't matter how _poor_ one considers the evidence. Evidence doesn't cease to _be_ evidence simply because one is unconvinced by it.
I'm not convinced, either. However, I'm not so intellectual dishonest and arrogant to pretend that there is _"no"_ evidence. Anyone who is shouldn't be teaching.
@@Bardineer SIGH.
Playing with words huh?
When I say there's currently no evidence for any deity I'm OBVIOUSLY not saying no evidence has ever been presented and I'm surprised you would even think that.
I'm saying no evidence exists that proves any deity exists.
@lurch666
SIGH
Atheists always get so mad when I push back. I'm surprised that you haven't demanded that I "prove [my] God exists!!" despite the fact I, myself, am agnostic and make no such assertion. Atheists seemingly love to sit back and poke holes in religious people's arguments, but don't do so well when it comes to self-reflection.
@dianahill5116
"No one will ever claim, religion is rational."
That includes me. I am irreligious and agnostic. _Dogma_ is irrational, and that includes atheistic dogma. (For the record, the notions that theism=gnosticism=religion, that theism [as BELIEF--not a CLAIM] invokes a burden of proof, that atheists don't "ever" have a burden of proof, that atheists don't make "any" claims, that only "positive" claims invoke a burden of proof, that atheism is "just" an "absence" of belief in gods, that the god-claim is both extraordinary, that the god-claim is unfalsifiable, that atheists don't have faith, that belief has to be justified be present, and that atheists don't have any dogma are examples *_of_* atheistic dogma).
The interesting thing is, science was "invented" because people were trying to understand the world around us and the creative force behind it... In effect, they were trying to understand God. Most problems with religion of ANY type are when MAN tries to shoehorn THEIR beliefs into God's existence.
Sorry, but that is a very balderdash-y statement. There is absolutely no verifiable proof or evidence of any kind that anyone can show that connects any god to any thing or event on earth or the universe. "It had to be god" is only evidence of ignorance. There is no god.
@@georgetinger5124 I was speaking of things from THEIR viewpoint. Science has been around (under one name or another) since people have began trying to LEARN instead of react instinctively. The word/name God might not have been created in their vocabulary yet, but trying to make sense of things DID lead to belief in something BIGGER than them. Understanding HOW and WHY drove them. It, in effect, was their God. Chasing that was their RELIGION. And their science
@WilliamRoop-xt6rp
My apologies for the misunderstanding. I do get frustrated with many religious folks giving circular arguments about their god being the creator of all.
@@georgetinger5124 no worries... Discussion and presentation of viewpoints are the basis for both good science and deep theology. When people stand fast on their BELIEFS without allowing other viewpoints, both stagnate.
@@dianahill5116 why, yes... Yes it was. Since invention is the process of discovery, then (from mans perspective) EVERYTHING was invented, whether it was actual objects, concepts, or the organization of thought.
2:45 🚫The moment you use the word Creation to mean Existence, you've jumped in the rabbit hole of ignorance.
Existence and Truth are not terms that can be transmogrified to mean something else.
However so,
"The truth does not require your participation in order to exist; Bullshit does!" ❤👍🏼
- Terrence McKenna
👍👍
Do we need to explain a universe that has no beginning and no end by inventing a god that has no beginning and no end to create it?
For those who have eyes that see. Behold - l destroy all who 'challenge' my throne. For l AM the first teacher in space. (Jan. 28, 1986)
2 Matthew 69:420 - And Jesus said, “As I depart, y'all come together, like butt cheeks, 'cause I'm the shit.” Then as he ascended into heaven, he made a “W” out of his hands and said, “WU-TANG FOREVER!”
Leviticus verse 6:66 says pick up sharp sticks and shove them up your assicus
wtf😂😅
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Better Jesus than the one in the bible for certain:P
I'm going to use religious language. The first question has to be how old God is. After all, the Universe can't be older than God, right? Because He created the Universe. And that may have taken a bit of time, sitting at the drawing board, doing experiments, etc. As a youngster I read something that stated that "THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT CANNOT BE KNOWN" or "THINGS THAT AREN'T MEANT TO BE KNOWN". Something along those lines. That had a profound impact on me. Later I found out that there were certain problems that could not be solved, so don't dwell on them. They will drive you mad.
I'm trying to write new legislation, pertaining to "personal" embezzlement laws, rules, regulations and restrictions.
Example:
When someone who is related to you and you don't like or trust them or never met them, is allowed to steal property and have the government, judicial system and law enforcement not care, about the emotional, mental, financial and physical damage to the victim(s); is aiding and abetting the "alleged" criminal(s).
Example: The theft of a love letter(s) between spouses.
Since the government, judicial system and law enforcement have extreme difficulty comprehending the value.
The thief/thieves, know the value, that's why the person(s) stole them.
:-O Consciousness is the particle and wave double slit experiment. The cones and rods of your eyes preserve the particle and wave duality so your vision don't look like a flat screen television. It's supposed to be a violation of physics but it is the only exception in the whole universe.
What's with the AI type voice at the beginning asking a question that has nothing to do with the content/video material? And the goofy musical piece at the end of what appears to be -- what, an intro? Is Jupiter Star an AI Bot? And the "Brazil" type movie stage .. he audio is gret (if one can stand the music thrown in) but the visuals are Film School irritating
I can just picture it we find out what dark matter is and sense it come from something after we figure it out the god of the gap will still be there
True or False
Life has always existed
Religious fundamentalism actively promotes arrogant ignorance where questioning or thinking critically is discouraged as it is ungodly to aspire to learn about what they assert to already know.
ye of so little faith....like me
So if a religious person can’t teach from an high level of educated in a school because of their beliefs, but Neil and the likes can teach my kids this atheist education, how is that ok. Then what happens to our freedom to think and speak freely. Neil makes no sense. I can say the same thing I will stand up and defend the next generation of children from being indoctrinated into atheism. Science is amazing I love how far we have come in life’s journey and am excited for what we are yet to achieve in science as a Christian man. The Bible is not a science book. Let’s learn to tolerate each other and be a democracy free to think freedom of religion. Let’s not forget Christians are also educated in the best universities of the world. We are not all ignorant or stupid.
*atheist education* You mean facts, something there is none of in the bible.
I couldn't get past the lack of punctuation, paragraphs and sentence structure, to comprehend what you wrote.
The god-of-the-gaps refers to any assignment of natural forces to being a deity. Yahweh started out as a reference to a volcano. Gazing at the movement of the "stars" (now known as planets) and assigning their movements to Zeus certainly qualifies. And this was the genesis of evolutionary religion. As some of these referred to forces of nature that were deadly, humans conjectured that they were caused by sentient beings who could be persuaded to be more lenient towards humans if they offered "gifts" or sacrifices to these gods of the gaps, with the now iconic image of throwing virgins into the volcano to appease this wrathful deity.
In more recent times, the concept of Yahweh, for example, has evolved into a global and then universalize conception. Then Jesus came along to explain to us that God is quite different from the original conceptions of an angry god into a loving God, one that's here to help us, not hurt us. The trouble is, people still think of God as being a local being responsible for physical events, hoped for healings and the like. [We lack the ability to see that it's the angels who are the one who affect the healings...] So, we end up with this mishmash of ideas surrounding God. Enter, a divine revelation from our celestial government called the Urantia Book that clears up all these misconceptions of God and narrows our focus of God onto his indwelling spirit fragment called a Thought Adjuster (previously named the still small voice or the kingdom of heaven within). This part of God within is there to help us when making decisions, especially moral ones. It is an aide to helping us to become more mature, true, beautiful and good.
Any time you want to learn about the god of I am. Let me know.
"awed" not "odd"
For a second I thought this said God of the Caps
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How the story originated is readily available. Why not educate the masses on the lie that is too large to hide even after 2024 years of trying.
many folk who give up religion still can experience a religious experience
People don’t need religion to experience awe and wonder.
Yes, but,please call it something else! Awe, wonder, gratitude, ecstasy, community, the sublime. Otherwise the weasel fundamentalists start knocking at your door with tracts.
How does one explain the Periodic Table and how it is able to work the way it does?
Our current knowledge of statistics and probability state the periodic table is impossible to come together and function the way it does as a result of pure random chance.....(unless there is an intelligent designer behind the entire periodic table)!
The reality is that nothing in the universe would exist if the periodic table also did not exist as well as everything we know about matter is dependent upon the periodic table....!
Unless one has a more plausible explanation that explains how elements are able to organize themselves in such a way that many elements are able to combine together to form highly complex molecules. Molecules necessary for the both existence of life and all the known matter in the universe.....
There are more plausible explanations.
Take a chemistry class.
@@drewdrake9130 Such as.....? Everyone know that elements cannot arrange themselves..... and the ONLY way that elements can arrange themselves is with the assistance of an intelligence source....
@@happycat0411
You show your ignorance with that reply.
Take a chemistry class!
Take a look at the images of the Universe from the James Webb Space Telescope. Anyone who seriously believes that the Creator of all of that, if there even is one, has instructions for the people of Earth, and "speaks" to a "chosen" illiterate nomad (with no witnesses) in a scorching desert, telling him to spread the word to all of humanity, using the most inefficient means possible, or promised him a parcel of land without a signed and witnessed Deed, needs to immediately seek help from a licensed mental health professional.
To you, Science shrinks the God of Gaps. To me, Science grows the God of Design.
U give Niel de grase the right to write the science curri. His ontological view point is his and those who believe him. To Me the lord Jesus GOD IS BE4 all and Nothing.
**Neil deGrasse Tyson -- you misspelled his name.
**before
You are in for a big surprice when you enter the other side !
Am I to believe that the universe was created by something bigger and more powerful than the universe. Something that wasn't created? It makes more sense that a million smaller causes caused a singularity which caused the universe.
Do you really think an unknowable creator is better defined that the singularity that is called for in the Standard Cosmological Model? Fine. But, before you say anything else, do the math, construct a competing model. For you have arrived at the table empty-handed.
Yes if I had just one percent of those odds I would be kicked out of every casino for cheating. They would know something was wrong. Take care
God of the gaps is adjacent to believing a good magicians trick is real magic. Figuring out how the trick is done is adjacent to science making discoveries.
( ´ﾟдﾟ) We need to popularize the idea of getting God married. Getting God married is a good use of someone's time. You are supposed to make the environment intelligent so no God is needed. We fixed the video and audio for the best experience possible. Cameras are supernatural and all of them captured 3D that not a gimmick. The audio loud don't make violence so has depth. Nobody has to buy anything for it to work.
'Big Bang' was coined as a pejorative by Fred Hoyle, who called it 'religious pseudoscience' for the overt connotations of a creation event. Atheist cosmologists preferred static models for the opposite rationale (no creation = no creator). Science versus atheism.
We all believe in something, and it's important to separate beliefs from science, but that becomes particularly difficult with a belief like atheism, which doesn't even recognize itself as such.
The reason we do accept the big bang is becauae in the decades since Fred Hoyle's opinion, we have discovered evidence that proves it beyond the shadow of a doubt.
Citing someone who was wrong doesn't make you look correct. It makes you look ignorant.
Atheism is ONE thing, a lack of belief in gods, it does not necessarily state that NO gods exist. You can apologize now.
For example, I am what is referred to as an agnostic atheist which means I don't believe in any gods but if the compelling evidence were found to show I should believe in a god, I will change my mind. I can't logically state there are no gods because that would put the burden of proof on me and proving something does not exist is nearly impossible. That does not mean that because I cannot prove your particular god does not exist that I should believe it does. The theists have no compelling evidence for any of the gods man has created over the millennia. Until such time as that happens, I will continue my life as if there are no gods.
@@seanrunyan8889 OK then, I identify as an a-naturalist. I lack belief in naturalistic explanations for the universe and life. I make no claims that need defended. I don't even claim they don't exist...
I am open to evidence for naturalistic beliefs if compelling evidence for them should ever arise.
Meanwhile I remain a skeptic.
@@SteveLomas-k6k You were shown you were wrong about what being an atheist actually means and instead of owning it and apologizing, you responded like a child. *golf clap*
Thanks for showing everyone your complete lack of integrity.
Atheism is NOT a belief, it's the absence of belief !
Religion is man made.
No "god" had ever came to earth, nor will it, and told any sort of people to commit anything that the religious had done, all in the "name of"..
First minute and god of gabs… but higher power is universe … and god created universe , so worship creation instead of creator
lol
Which produces better adults-parents whose children watch them smugly look down on others as inferior, acting as if they are superior to "those people,"
Or, parents who practice, "we all fall short of who we could be, and only God can see what another person is really like."?
There's plenty of ignorance and smugness to go around. I never had children but I have numerous friends who did. I always shared with them 4 things. Empathy, Enlightened self interest, gratitude and kindness. Teach a child that and the rest works out on its own.
You can teach your children to be good people without subjecting them to fairy tales as being real. Some of the most smug people who feel they are superior to everyone else are some of the most religious people I know. I would also argue that teaching children that their particular religion is undeniably true is harmful to those children in the long run as it teaches them to ignore critical thinking.
The saddest thing is people like this one here were created by the same creator, the God Almighty. But he will face Him one day, he will see how much damage his "teachings" did to millions of people by washing their brains and distancing them from their God, our God.
i heard it's a choice to go to hell. so when the day of judgment come i just say to god:
what's good ma boy let me in heaven.
no problem at all
Please watch and share with others my five brief videos in which I present examples of scientific facts contained in the Bible, facts that the writers thousands of years ago could not have been aware of without divine knowledge given to them by Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible. And today's scientists agree with those facts!
The creator of the universe is not a religion. To be a scientist is someone wanting to learn who the creator is and how to find the creator. The reason for this finding is to see if man can overthrow the creator.
The universe isn't created. So it doesn't need a creator.
Assuming there is a creator without compelling evidence is ridiculous. (Incoming Watchmaker's logical fallacy response)
No, that's not what it means to be a scientist.
(*T^T) This is an artistic proof of a created universe. When you paint a shadow it's the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white was so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it.
That doesn't even make sense.
@@PaulBolton-jl2qm I have a feeling he was on something really potent when he wrote that:P
The Bible is inspired by GOD ,is not the totality of GOD..But,GOD as the Creator if the Universe is closer to Scientific Truth than The Created Creature Rationality to Completely Comprehend GOD..Here Comes Spirit inspire FAITH to make the Whole Life Experience tolerable..
Just do your science and let religion be. You will never enlighten anyone by assuming superiority.
You have to define God, or find God. To pray to a spirit and say it’s God and expect him to endlessly provide for you answers to your prayers when his spirit might be just that of a great man who doesn’t have anything to provide for you you don’t already have is pointless. God is king of kings. He has everything. Now unless he’s recognised and given that role of king of kings and allowed to by his perfect good nature provide physical things to you being a physical being then it’s an empty pursuit. God has to be crowned and recognised king of kings. You can’t just pray and have your prayers go to god if he can’t provide for you what you ask. Being a good man doesn’t mean I have everything you ask of me to give you. I barely have enough for myself. Though my spirit is god I’m not treated as a god it will remain just for me.
Why would someone’s spirit be any different? I was originally born that way a pioneer. I was born from a sun spirit compared to earth spirits. So my spirit was compared to most people the size of the sun compared to others which were more like the size of a planet like earth or neighbouring planets or moons even. All spirits come from different places. Mine was from a sun.
It’s superpowered now it’s the size of the universe. I got to the end heaven on earth but I wasn’t married or treated too well. And the earth is under corruption so I did it all without anyone really knowing. Or me being crowned.
It should have really been a beautiful marriage procession.
But we were interested in info rather than love.
So instead of gazing into each others eyes lovingly we are staring at phones researching.
I always reply when someone says i believe in god i always say which one religious people always believe they have the right one they believe in how convenient is that you have the correct one😂😂😂😂
This is a joke. God exists and had ALWAYS existed. God is not just about the the "mystery" of the Universe, it's about what we can SEE and cannot SEE. If you are honestly dismissing God, especially because your own personal bias or ignorance, well, you are just displaying your ignorance, straight up.
The Big Bang describes how the universe expanded from an initial state of high density and temperature from nothing. The theory of general relativity: the universe began at a “singularity” (Big Bang) where all matter, energy, space, and time came into existence at an infinitely small point and expanded outward from there. Space-time Theorems recognizes the union of space and time. General relativity has been proven to be true. The universe has mass, and the universe is expanding. Thus the universe had a singularity/Big Bang/beginning from extra dimensions.
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago.
*the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe*
NO it doesn't. It is quite clear in the bible the earth is all there is. The sun, the planets and the stars all reside in the firmament. A solid dome that covers the flat earth.
@@fordprefect5304 Where did you get your Biblical Hebrew degree. Or can you share your ref book?
"firmament. A solid dome that covers the flat earth" Only those that hate God say these things, as they are not in the Bible.
The use of the world “firmament” in Genesis 1:8 is a carryover from the Latin firmamentum of the Vulgate. Genesis was written in Hebrew, the original Hebrew word is raqiya. This should be translated “expanse, sky, space, horizon”. Some translated this a vault. Genesis was written in Hebrew, which as limited vocabulary.
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*You left out the part where the stars and the planets and the sun are in the firmament*
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heauen, to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signes, and for seasons, and for dayes and yeeres.
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heauen to giue light vpon the earth: and it was so.
16 God then made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesse light to rule the night: he made also the starres.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heauen, to shine vpon the earth,
@@djsarg7451 Please explain
6 Againe God said, Let there be a firmament in the mids of the waters: and let it separate the waters from the waters.
7 Then God made the firmament, and separated the waters, which were vnder the firmament, from the waters which were aboue the firmament: and it was so
How were the waters separated if it was not a solid dome?
Speaking from a scientific viewpoint
@@djsarg7451
Genesis 1:7-9
Expanded Bible
7 So God made the ·air [L firmament; dome; expanse; C rain clouds] and placed some of the water above the ·air [L firmament; dome; expanse] and some below it [C referring to the rain and the oceans, lakes, and rivers]. 8 God ·named [called] the ·air [L firmament/dome/expanse] “·sky [heaven].” Evening passed, and morning came [1:5]. This was the second day.
9 Then God said, “Let the water under the ·sky [heavens] be gathered together so the dry land will appear.” And it happened.
CREDIT: Biblegateway
just admit you don't know and avoid making silly stories
Benevolent god? Doesn't matchup to the vast amount of random cruelty humankind experiences every nibute of every day
Minute*
@@christopherwall444 If you click on the 3 dots you can edit your post.
This fluffy dude is not a scientist. He's just a science popularizer, that's all. He can't miss one single occasion to subtly enforce on audiences the idea that the Universe does not have a creator, an intelligent designer. People like this one are not scientists, they're props,they're pawns. Their solely role is to indoctrinate and they're doing that worse and more aggressively than any religion. Ask yourselves, how many of you understand what's called science?Are you scientists? Hell no. Than how are you supposed not only to absorb but to understand and filter this kind of information, "scientific" information? Stop pretending you understand science. Look around you and contemplate the greatness of God in all His creation around you. No "scientist" will ever create the wing of a bee, a seed of a flower, Never!
(゜ロ゜) It's intelligently designed that if you master evolution it just makes you a baby doctor.
You should take an English class, that was horribly written.
Scientists/Astrophysics measure physics, the physical aspects of space/time.
They do not measure a Spirit realm...
You cannot give a convincing argument about something you know very little about.
Not religious but do believe in a CREATOR.
Faith is not ignorance!
Believing everything came from absolutely nothing is.
Science never claims nothing was ever the state of the universe, run along with your willful ignorance.
@@seanrunyan8889
You didn t have to respond...
Did you respond to the other 130 comments?
Just giving my 'two-cents.'
Believe anything you want.
@@woldeyohannes If you don't like people replying to your nonsense, don't post nonsense.
The place where this creator exists, how exactly did it come into existence?
This genius, like most atheists, wants to render God as human.
No, that is what believers do....a true god would have no desire to create anything, let alone demand it be worshiped.
On the contrary. My first issue, as a young teen with a Catholic upbringing, was how religion portrayed a being that could create the entire universe as petty, jealous, vengeful etc... All far too human traits for a being so advanced that we would have no way to comprehend it. So either no Gods exist or religious doctrine of any kind is just attempts to personify that which, if it does exist, we would have no way of understanding...yet.
So, your first assignment is to learn about atheism so that you can render an educated opinion. I don't mean this to be snarky. I really think you have an incorrect opinion of atheism.
When God created the earth he created all life on it including humid life forms When God created Adam it was different God created in his own image in Eden a place Jesus called paradise when Adam gained the knowledge of good and evil Adam and Eve could not stay in paradise Eden God cast them on to this earth a much older and more volent earth.When God said you shell surely die. He ment it. In Eden Adam was immortal on this Earth Adam and Eve became mortal it why God said you will toll to work the fields Adam died on this earth but not before Adams children grew up and married the people God had created on this Earth and past on the knowledge of good and evil.
Wrong section. This is Science, you're looking for Myths and Fairytales.
Apparently God didn't pass on punctuation, spelling and coherent sentence structure. Humid life forms??? Are they sweaty??
Sorry, but that is a very balderdash-y statement. There is absolutely no verifiable proof or evidence of any kind that anyone can show that connects any god to any thing or event on earth or the universe. "It had to be god" is only evidence of ignorance. There is no god.
Pardon me if I ignore the assertions from a guy who is almost illiterate.
LMAO
This demonstrates a category of ignorance if you believe theist hold to a god of the gaps position.
I would love to see him attempt this type of elementary reasoning with someone like William Lane Craig!
Most do, whether you like that fact or not. Have you not seen people who credit god with the most random of things just because they do not understand how it happened? You can't tell me you have never seen that happen...unless you're lying or like 10 years old.
@seanrunyan8889 😆 Yes, I have seen many do just that, and in my opinion they are mistaken. The God in theism is not a god of the gaps. That's not a position of any serious theist who argues for the existence of God.
@@StandFirm24.7 I don't think you understand what god of the gaps means. No theists makes a god of the gaps argument on purpose they just make one of their lame arguments for god and it happens to be a god of the gaps argument. I think you're right, they are mistaken because I think all Christians are mistaken.
"Hey look water is falling from this statue of Jesus' feet it must be a miracle". Nope it was a sewage leak and the mental giants had been anointing themselves with it and drinking the water. That actually happened by the way in Mumbai.
@seanrunyan8889 I understand what it is. The Christian God is not defined as a god of the gaps. If it was you would be correct. God is a necessary being who has the power of being within himself and without his existence nothing would be. He is not contingent but exist by necessity. How could this be a gap filler? Actually, the gaps are with the non-theist, unless you can provide a better explanation for why there is something rather than nothing?
@@StandFirm24.7 Man, this is rough, god of the gaps refers to a logical fallacy...we don't need to make up stuff to explain why there is something rather than nothing, that is just plain lunacy...and literally a god of the gaps logical fallacy. You are legit saying, science doesn't know, therefore god. This is beyond hilarious. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for so blatantly proving my point.
The Creation Story from Genesis 1 - Part I
There are three main thoughts on Genesis 1 and the Six Days of Creation. This is a short list, just three...
1) It was Six 24-Hour days that the Earth and Heavens were created. There are variations that it was only the Earth
or only from the time of Adam was a total of six days.
2) It was Six 'Thousand Years' days (the thousand years are more or less, but about a thousand years per day).
3) The Gap. In Genesis 1:1 God had created the Heavens and the Earth. That could have been millions or billions of years ago.
In verse 2, God replenished the Earth with life.
For those that study this, and before they have a view: they ought to have read The Holy Bible over and over.
To read, study, and meditate on God's Word. These are necessary steps to understand things from God's Word.
And to not forget to Trust in the Guidance of The Holy Ghost...not just commentaries of others.
It is important to consider the Angels. The Angels were created by God. The Angels were apparently given FREE WILL.
When some of them went against God... it was a bad error, and they had become FALLEN ANGELS.
A note on FREE WILL. I have heard theologians and scholars say that we all have a free will, but is that not exactly true?
Adam had a FREE WILL, but he fell. We are from Adam and are in a fallen position. We may choose right or wrong,
but we have a disadvantage because of our fallen state: that's why we NEED THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
In Job 38, The Lord tells Job that the Sons of God (Angels) shouted for joy
when the foundations were fastened...
Job 38:4-7 The Sons of God Shouted
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
When the foundations of the Earth laid - when was that: what day?
When God created The Earth did he make it void first? Or was the Earth already existing as a void?
In Isaiah 45:18 he created it not in vain or void...
Isaiah 45:18 Not Created in Vain or Void
18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it,
he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.
How long did it take to create the earth from this passage in Isaiah?
When did the Fall of Angels occur which includes Satan?
When the Serpent was in the garden Satan was already fallen. So when did the fall occur?
Also, Neanderthal and Cro-Magnons don't seem to fit. When God made Adam,
Adam was intelligent already.
If God made man in his own image and if you believe in Evolution, what did God look like? Did he have
a Neanderthal appearance, then did he also change in appearance after that?
Then there is the dinosaur question. Reading Genesis 1 - I don't see any dinosaurs there.
There may have been dinosaur-like creatures in the seas, but not on the land.
I never saw where Adam met T-Rex or Triceratops.
Also concerning the dinosaurs and science - there were three periods: The Triassic; the Jurassic;
and the Cretaceous Period. The Cretaceous Period is when T-Rex and Triceratops were existing.
Science has fossils and it is difficult to dispute.
Now the fall of Satan seems to be mentioned in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 - and you have to
understand that in the Prophets there are oftentimes multiple applications.
Again I say, those that have not spent time reading, studying, and meditating on God's Word;
and have not been through the complete Holy Bible over and over... this might be too much...
To those that have, then please consider to what I say.
In Isaiah 14 - The Bright Morning Star or Lucifer rebelled against God. In this passage it speaks of
The King of Babylon and beyond. This passage also speaks of The Beast that will be at his height in Revelation.
Isaiah 14:12-15 Son of The Morning - Similar to Day Star
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
The Creation Story from Genesis 1 - Part II
The Lord Jesus is called The Day Star by Simon Peter, and he is called
The Bright and Morning Star in Revelation by The Lord himself...
2Peter 1:19-21 The Day Star - and The Holy Ghost Inspiring Prophets
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light
that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God
spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
In Revelation 22:16 The Bright and Morning Star
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and
the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
The Enemy is a deceiver and tries to act like he's The Lord Jesus. His title as
Son of The Morning is close to Day Star and Bright and Morning Star.
So for the three main thoughts of creation I have one more passage
in the book of The Prophet Jeremiah 4...
Jeremiah 4:23-26 The Pre-Adam Days God Destroyed the Earth
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were
broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
With this passage from Jeremiah it is easier to see the passages from Isaiah and Ezekiel...
Ezekiel 28:11-18 The Fall of The Anointed Cherub - and King of Tyrus
11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God;
Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond,
the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets
and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God;
thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned:
therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee,
O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness:
I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick;
therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will
bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
This passage speaks of The King of Tyrus, but it also speaks of the Anointed Cherub that fell.
This will also be applicable in the 70th Week.
When The Anointed Cherub was in Eden, The Garden of God - that was before Adam
in the Garden of Eden. This is either a different garden or the same garden,
but a little bit different in Adam's time.
Again, when did this occur? Walking in the Garden of God.
Now, as in Isaiah 14 this individual had a kingdom. This passage in Ezekiel
mentions that he had sanctuaries. Hmm.
He was perfect in all his ways... until iniquity was found. Pride found its way.
The devil and pride are closely related.
Therefore, I have to go with the Gap. Most modern scholars will go with the Creation of the Heavens
and Earth in Six Days, and different scholars vary in that theology.
Nobody is going to read the drivel.
Absolute drivel.........
Who told the writers of the bible stories that the days were 1,000 years long and that millions or billions of years elapsed between his creation of heaven and Earth.
You couldn't make it up....... Oh, they did!
@@seanrunyan8889 That's what the last person said.
@@fabianmckenna8197 Okay, play that game. When your time is up... you will probably wish you gave THE BOOK a read.
@@buukkreider544 There it is, confirmation you are evil. Reveling in the idea of someone going to hell. I read your book, it's rubbish.
Fun fact: threatening an atheist with hell is like a child telling an adult that Santa isn't going to bring them gifts. That's how ridiculous it is.