Greetings Nice to see this operation but compared to our operation in our coutry (S.A.) those trucks are from the stone age I can't believe we were so much more advanced than those rich countries But that was then
Railcar Mechanic here😁 On rail cars we have these things called slack adjusters. Basically they adjust the brake rigging so that no matter how worn the brake shoes are, it has relatively the same amount of braking force. Without these slack adjusters the brakes would be weak if the shoes are worn down.
So cool to see this in action. I've always wondered how this operation went down, like how fast they dump....whether they dumped all doors at once, etc. Thanks so much for sharing!
Its absolutely amazing concerning everything that goes on behind the scenes just so that people are supplied with the necessities of day living. Thank you to the unrecognized underappreciated overworked men and women who supply and step up to meet our basic needs. Remain safe!
Thank you Ray for the really kind words of appreciation. That was very thoughtful of you to say that. Glad you could take the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
@@ccrx-xu1wc Not as quick as Kwik Drop Doors, no stopping the train, no manual input into the process unless coal gets stuck, in which case it gets jackhammered from the outside as the wagons progress. Only if it really sticks, and doesnt fully discharge does the train stop.
i worked on a ship that was layberthed at pier 14 newport news next to the csx loop. 24 hours a day these trains would auto dump and the coal was loaded onto huge bulkers going foreign. would take about 4 days to load one ship , and was a nonstop operation. all day you would hear the screech of the wheels rounding the curves, and the motion alarms on the massive conveyor systems and scoop loaders. the tonnage numbers are just mind blowing
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Thats because they wet it to stop the dust from causing an explosion also the coal if it's transported over a long distance can ignite if it's not wetted
This is enlightening indeed. Different climates have other ways of getting it out of the cars as well. Individual manual door operation is a lot like work on an obviously older other style discharge requiring four individuals rather than just one for speedier unloading. Damp or even wet coal that has frozen enroute inside the car into one giant ice cube requires a giant vibrator that is lowered onto the car that helps the coal exit faster. There has been times during severe cold an entire string of 100 cars just sat while individual cars are emptied manually. I never knew this method existed for bottom dumping. This style car is very efficient in many ways and makes for very streamlined unloading. I would truly appreciate seeing the operator's side of the operation. This is evidently an operation that unloads as needed and does not have storage piles on site. I can tell you this is a sweet operation if familiar with coal operations.
@@evangiles17 That and so they also don't turn every neighborhood the train goes through black with dust and they don't want to loose any product even that dust is worth money to them.
I remember Lionel had a coal car with an electromagnetically actuated door mechanism like this. We built a table which could actually offload sand much like this. Never seen it in real life. Thanks, Dave!
That would be pretty neat to see Tom. I still have my Lionel set from early 1960 although it's been 40 some years since it has ran. Used to love the old Lionel black and white catalogs, wish I had kept those. Thanks so much for taking in the video today my friend.
Wow quite an operation ! We have a TVA COAL PLANT, HERE IN KINGSTON TN THE TURN THE CARS OVER , MY DAD WORKED FOR USS CHEMICAL, WAS THE BIG WHEEL , OF HIS DIVISION, HE SET ME UP FOR LIFE, WHAT A GUY ! THANKS FOR SHARING!
Thank you Steve for watching. Rotary dumps are pretty cool to watch. We a long time ago sold some coal to TVA, somehow it got there by barge, but they prob have many power plants?
That was quiet different than I imagined. I live near a coal-fired electricity generating plant, and from what I've seen, the train slows down a little when it passes through to unload, but when it comes out on the other side, it's empty. No stopping at all. Of course I couldn't see up close like this, so thank you for the video! : )
All the rapid dumps I was around use contact patches on diagonal car corners and applied voltage between rail and the contact patch to operate solenoids to open or close the doors. No humans having to app cars as the dump area was +volts and then. No voltage followed by a -voltage section to close.
I saw one over here in the UK where the train doesn't stop - and it used a really basic system to automatically open the doors at the right moment. That manual lever point that was pointed out in this video, instead of having a person turn it there was a permanent handle attached with a wheel on the end. Then beside the track was a parallel section of rail that connected to the wheel and rose upwards and then down again in a gentle "hump". Each time the cars slowly went past that point the doors would be pushed open, and then the weight of the wheel on the lever would help close the doors again after, as well as ensuring constant contact between the free-wheel and the piece of track. Really simple yet ingenious solution - and it meant for cars that _didn't_ have the lever with the wheel a worker would just attach them to the cars just before they went through the facility and another worker at the other end removed them again before the cars _left_ the facility. I guess there _were_ dangers in being caught up in the free-wheeling lever itself, or being struck by it if you weren't aware there was something sticking out the side of the car a bit further than normal - plus the dangers for the guys adding/removing the temporary levers if they didn't get their timings right. But it seemed to operate for a very long time with zero incidents, so I guess the workers were really on their game during its operation!
@@coloradostrong I am thankful that people are putting good videos on RUclips for others to enjoy during this pandemic. Sorry, but I think that we can figure out what this gentleman meant whether or not he used you're or your. I applaud him for taking the time to respond back to comments.
Been here for awhile ought to know a little something about the history of this place. I big regret is didn't write more stuff down thru the years, events I remember, but dates are often lost in the dark recesses of my mind. Thanks so much Dominic for checking out the video and writing in.
Okay, you are one of my favorite railroad youtubers now! :) I love how you describe and show all aspects of the operation. Very informative! I am going through and slowly watching your older videos to catch up.
3 years after you posted this it came up on my recommendations. Great job explaining this; was very interesting. I hope the camera shy operator is doing well too!
Love these videos! We get to see things in railroading that we otherwise wouldn't see. (The obsessive compulsive side of me wants to brush the coal off those cross bars. lol)
I worked at a coal pier and the cars were turned upside down to dump. This was the first time I seen one unloaded from the bottom. Thanks for sharing this video.
I was working with a train team. There are100 cars in a coal train. In Tennessee coal plant they had same building but didn’t see how it work. Thank for showing videos
Cool stuff!! Now I've seen the bottom dump and the rotary dump. Thanks for sharing! I really hope you're able to get a video on the remote operator if they'll allow you to do so. Stay safe out there on the rails!
Great to hear you enjoyed, will try to get a video on the remote control box sometime, it's pretty neat piece of equipment. We do appreciate your writing in and for watching the video Alaina
This is always a neat operation. I love all your behind the scenes stuff. Coal prices are going up. It's pretty difficult to find good quality coal at a decent price. I would really like to see how those remotes work. I used to volunteer with a rr museum that has a 3 foot gauge GE 55 tonner from US Steel with rc equipment. Apparently they still have the controller, but I never saw it. The loco doesn't run anymore anyway. Needs a lot of work, like much everything else in the collection. But, that's railroadin'! Thanks for sharing, as always! Stay safe out there.
Glad you enjoyed Bryson. Someday I will show how the remote control system works here, just haven't gotten to it yet, so much other stuff going on. Right now natural gas prices have been rising for the past 6 or so months and utilities are re thinking their position on burning cheaper coal than gas. Awesome to hear you did some volunteer work! That's great.
Very glad you enjoyed Dan. Here is another one where we get up closer to the action you may enjoy watching also. We do appreciate your visiting with us today my good man. ruclips.net/video/zk0RZu-uyqk/видео.html
I grew up outside of Chi-town. Worked at a ready-mix concrete plant. Unloaded cement, sand & gravel from trains. Used pinch bar to move bottom dump gondolas occasionally. Materials were run through a dryer, then uploaded to overhead bins. Then dropped by recipe to paper sacks, sewn closed by manual control, conveyored to pallets or stacks, moved to warehouse or trucks in shipping dock. My hands, arms & back still ache thinking about it. But the '47 knucklehead springer jockey shift on ape-hangers kept me focused on the drive home in late '60s. Great video to recall those days.
Thank You for doing the video. I've always wanted to do an eyes-on of coal and grain being dumped. Perhaps, sometime,would you be able to video a segment on what happens underground while coal is in the process of being dumped?? Are there catwalks down there?
Your welcome Harry, glad you enjoyed. I am unable to do any videos of what goes on underground, I never ever go in the mine, although i've been on a tour 20 some years ago. It is fascinating to see the huge stuff they have for mining the coal. No catwalks under ground, but there are tracks everywhere, that's how they get the miners and machinery in to the sections
Very glad to hear you enjoyed the movie John and thank you for the nice comment. Appreciate very much your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Just about 1 minute to dump a car Mary when they don't have to wait for the silo to empty down. He was a bit slow going that day because they were waiting on the river crew to load enough coal out of the silo into barges. Very much appreciate your taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.
Nice video, have seen another where the guy dumping had a battery pack kind of like a cordless drill and just touched a probe to one of 3 buttons on the side of the car
Glad you enjoyed Geoffrey. Domestically the need for coal has changed considerable. Upper management here has told us that they can sell as much coal as we can produce and if it can't be sold domestic, then it can be sold foreign. For 2021 we actually have been unable to keep up with the domestic demand for coal and that's great for the 750 guys that work here, plus all the supply and contracting industries that support our mine.
HAHA! Used to work at a heating plant where the C&O brought our coal in. We had to manually unlatch the doors (3 bay) and then climb into the cars to shovel down any coal sticking to the sides. Sometimes the coal would be frozen solid in the cars, so we had to get in with picks, sledge hammers, and a steam hose and break it loose. When we would get multiple cars and they wouldn't fit on the trestle, we had to move them with John Deer loaders and logging chains. A couple of guys would have to ride the cars and brake them manually when they were over the coal pit.
I've seen a video of a man shoveling coal from a pile on the ground into a wheel barrow then pushing it up a plank to dump it into a steam locomotive coal tender. It was in India in the 1970s.
No sir they do not, Train has a separate line to dump the doors with. Think about it, if air pressure was taken from the train brake line, then brakes on the cars would go on every time you dumped a door. Thanks for watching and writing in my friend.
Thanks for the video. My son and I watch the trains up here in Vermont and have been wondering how the hopper car unloads wood chips at the wood-burning electricity plant. Now we know!
Not all hoppers will empty so quickly. The cars shown in this video are "rapid-discharge" hoppers. Notice that there are two doors on the bottom of each of the intermediate bays.
Of course, there are a few reasons why coal consumption has been steadily declining since 2008, and will continue to do so. E.g. Powder River down 40% since peak.
Okay so I have a question and hoping maybe you know. We were discussing on the one STL cam about the roll over dumpers and how they work when it comes to coal cars. Do the cars have swivel couplers on both ends or just one end? If just one end do they only rotate one way, so the couplers stay horizontal? does it matter which direction the car is hooked up (I guess that would depend on if the couplers only swivel/twist one direction)? Hope this makes sense.
I've never actually watched a rotary dump in person, so won't be of great help with you on this. However all our cars that can be rotary dumped only have one end of the car designated as the rotary end. Hope that helps a small bit and thanks for watching the video.
Pretty cool! At USS Gary works I used to watch the mill guys dump coke in the bins on the high line behind the blast furnaces. Shop made cars on old reused friction bearing trucks. Massive cars with longitudinal doors that dumped very fast. Winters were a mess because fresh coke is quenched after being shoved out of the oven so that it wouldn't just catch fire and burn up so it was wet and then would freeze up in the cars. Loved watching and learning about steel making. Fascinating stuff
We do sell a lot of that stuff here eprn and management tells us they can sell all the coal we produce here. Last year we sold around 5.4 million tons, a bit of a down year for us. 6 million is a pretty good year. Thanks so much for watching the hopper cars dumping video my friend.
The coal is a bit damp from processing at the prep plant. Way back when we started they had a thermal dryer at the prep plant and man the dust was present then. But now dust is very minimal and thats a good thing
Yes sir it is! I saw a coal hopper car on another RR that had that spray painted on it's side. Loved it! The average person does not even realize that coal is behind what produces the energy to recharge their EV cars. The demand for coal in this country and across the world is tremendous right now, mines cannot keep up with demand. Thanks for stopping by and watching the video today my good man.
Thank you for sharing this great video!! I have often wondered how they empt6ied coal cars besides rotating them. Now I know and I will pass it on to my grandkid's
Your quite welcome Kevin, pleased to hear you enjoyed. There is about 115 tons in each car and it doesn't take very long to empty a car out. Very grateful for your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
Enjoyed your video of the newer coal transport cars dumping coal into silo storage. Is there reason to be concerned with the spontaneous fires being ignited in coal storage facilities?
Excellent question William. We have never had a fire in this silo since we started in 1977. At the bottom of the feeder where the coal dumps on a belt to go into the silo is an exhaust fan. Also on top of the silo is an exhaust fan that one runs 24/7. There is a back up fan on top if that one goes down. It is taking methane gas out of the silo. If the silo exhaust fan stops and the other one won't run, then all feeders and belts will stop and not start until the exhaust fan is running again. There is also a methane monitor at the bottom of the silo and if it gets in a certain range, that shuts all equipment down also until the methane is exhausted. There have been instances at other mines where coal has caught fire in the silos, but I really don't know any details about how that occured. We have been lucky
Coal Dust can ignite explosively. See the Imperial Sugar Company Dust Explosion and Fire on RUclips. The same applies to coal dust. There was a video in a building of an MSHA Coal Dust Ignition Test, it was confined in a building with canvas curtains, a hardhat full of coal dust, and dispersed and ignited. Big fire, explosive in nature.
I worked at a facility back in 1990's...we hammered the latches by hand, then myself and 3 others would go down to the river and drop loaded barges by hand and move the empty into place.....real fun job....lol
Each car has 200 ton? What 5 maybe 6 seconds to unload? I used to think the belly dump I used to drive was fast but damn, this is fast. Thank you and be safe.
An awesome video! It is very interesting and educational to see how coal is dumped out of coal hopper cars from a train! Plus, loaded coal trains are absolutely my favorite trains to see on the railroad! Anyways, a great video!
Yes they are Ken, you would think the manufacturer would have put the rounded or angled tops on those. Thank you very much for taking the time to check out the video and write in my friend.
I've always wondered if the coal cars were dumped while in motion or if it was constant stop and go and then how many cars at a time. One coal fired power plant near me (Consumers Energy JH Campbell in Michigan) used to have a rotary dump system but went to a bottom dump system like yours (although given the length of their shed, they likely dump more than one car at a time). They get around 100 train cars a day for their three boilers.
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Wow you have been with your company 43 years I've been with Norfolk southern 27 if I can make it to 30 I'm gonna hang it up! Where does the barges off load?
Hi jason, awesome you work ns, curious where at? Im close to ns track near waynesburg pa. They haul coal outa baily mine. We have many customers so where they off load is varied, i really dont know all the customers and where the coal ends up at. We do have a foreign customer, Hyundai, coal goes to them in korea and south america, plus a few domestic power plants
@@ccrx6700 they have moved me all over it seems but I'm in Birmingham Alabama. I run from Birmingham to Atlanta daily. Bham use to be a big hub for steel. U.S steel all but shut down here. From my understanding they got rid of their blast Furness and got some kinda of electric something another. Said it's cheaper and don't require as much labor to run and they can used recycled metals. We also have our share of coal mines but like alot of other things they too have shut down ( alot of them that's still open have decreased production). Intermodels traffic saved us, ethanol helped but rail traffic is down, alot of people have been furloughed and I doubt they will be called back it's sad really sad. We run longer trains now which is a cluster you know what. But I've gotta make hay when the sun is shining so to speak.
In winter it sometimes has a problem sticking to sides, although once temps get below freezing the cars are sprayed right before loading with a slide release agent which helps tremendously
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Great video. We enjoyed learning more about how things work in the train industry. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe and healthy.
Valerie, thank you very much for nice comment. Glad you enjoyed the show
Greetings Nice to see this operation but compared to our operation in our coutry (S.A.) those trucks are from the stone age I can't believe we were so much more advanced than those rich countries But that was then
Railcar Mechanic here😁 On rail cars we have these things called slack adjusters. Basically they adjust the brake rigging so that no matter how worn the brake shoes are, it has relatively the same amount of braking force.
Without these slack adjusters the brakes would be weak if the shoes are worn down.
Well, thanks for having the patience to wait and show us the coal car dump. I was beginning to think we're going to run out of time !
Your welcome. Glad you enjoyed watching
Saint Nicholas eh? Scouting out some coal suppliers for all the naughty people this year yeah?
@@kishascape Only if they've been very very naughty !
So cool to see this in action. I've always wondered how this operation went down, like how fast they dump....whether they dumped all doors at once, etc. Thanks so much for sharing!
Its absolutely amazing concerning everything that goes on behind the scenes just so that people are supplied with the necessities of day living. Thank you to the unrecognized underappreciated overworked men and women who supply and step up to meet our basic needs. Remain safe!
Thank you Ray for the really kind words of appreciation. That
was very thoughtful of you to say that. Glad you could take the
time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
That truly is "Rapid Discharge". Thanks for showing us the process.
Your very welcome, thank you for nice comment and for watching!
@@ccrx-xu1wc Not as quick as Kwik Drop Doors, no stopping the train, no manual input into the process unless coal gets stuck, in which case it gets jackhammered from the outside as the wagons progress. Only if it really sticks, and doesnt fully discharge does the train stop.
i worked on a ship that was layberthed at pier 14 newport news next to the csx loop. 24 hours a day these trains would auto dump and the coal was loaded onto huge bulkers going foreign. would take about 4 days to load one ship , and was a nonstop operation. all day you would hear the screech of the wheels rounding the curves, and the motion alarms on the massive conveyor systems and scoop loaders. the tonnage numbers are just mind blowing
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I Graduated High School on June 6th, 1977. It was a Great Year!!!
77 was a very good year totally agree on that James! Appreciate
your writing in and for watching the show today my good man.
I always wondered how the car were dumped. I was expecting way more dust. Hardly any at all. Thanks for the video.
Your welcome glad you enjoyed the show
Some dumpers will actually tip the entire car and dump it that way.
Thats because they wet it to stop the dust from causing an explosion also the coal if it's transported over a long distance can ignite if it's not wetted
This is enlightening indeed. Different climates have other ways of getting it out of the cars as well. Individual manual door operation is a lot like work on an obviously older other style discharge requiring four individuals rather than just one for speedier unloading. Damp or even wet coal that has frozen enroute inside the car into one giant ice cube requires a giant vibrator that is lowered onto the car that helps the coal exit faster. There has been times during severe cold an entire string of 100 cars just sat while individual cars are emptied manually. I never knew this method existed for bottom dumping. This style car is very efficient in many ways and makes for very streamlined unloading. I would truly appreciate seeing the operator's side of the operation. This is evidently an operation that unloads as needed and does not have storage piles on site. I can tell you this is a sweet operation if familiar with coal operations.
@@evangiles17 That and so they also don't turn every neighborhood the train goes through black with dust and they don't want to loose any product even that dust is worth money to them.
I remember Lionel had a coal car with an electromagnetically actuated door mechanism like this. We built a table which could actually offload sand much like this. Never seen it in real life. Thanks, Dave!
That would be pretty neat to see Tom. I still have my Lionel
set from early 1960 although it's been 40 some years since
it has ran. Used to love the old Lionel black and white
catalogs, wish I had kept those. Thanks so much for taking
in the video today my friend.
Wow quite an operation ! We have a TVA COAL PLANT, HERE IN KINGSTON TN THE TURN THE CARS OVER , MY DAD WORKED FOR USS CHEMICAL, WAS THE BIG WHEEL , OF HIS DIVISION, HE SET ME UP FOR LIFE, WHAT A GUY ! THANKS FOR SHARING!
Thank you Steve for watching. Rotary dumps are pretty cool
to watch. We a long time ago sold some coal to TVA, somehow
it got there by barge, but they prob have many power plants?
That was quiet different than I imagined. I live near a coal-fired electricity generating plant, and from what I've seen, the train slows down a little when it passes through to unload, but when it comes out on the other side, it's empty. No stopping at all. Of course I couldn't see up close like this, so thank you for the video! : )
David, your welcome. I've heard there are dumping facilities where the yrain never stops, but havn't seen one, that would be neat
All the rapid dumps I was around use contact patches on diagonal car corners and applied voltage between rail and the contact patch to operate solenoids to open or close the doors. No humans having to app cars as the dump area was +volts and then. No voltage followed by a -voltage section to close.
I saw one over here in the UK where the train doesn't stop - and it used a really basic system to automatically open the doors at the right moment. That manual lever point that was pointed out in this video, instead of having a person turn it there was a permanent handle attached with a wheel on the end. Then beside the track was a parallel section of rail that connected to the wheel and rose upwards and then down again in a gentle "hump". Each time the cars slowly went past that point the doors would be pushed open, and then the weight of the wheel on the lever would help close the doors again after, as well as ensuring constant contact between the free-wheel and the piece of track. Really simple yet ingenious solution - and it meant for cars that _didn't_ have the lever with the wheel a worker would just attach them to the cars just before they went through the facility and another worker at the other end removed them again before the cars _left_ the facility. I guess there _were_ dangers in being caught up in the free-wheeling lever itself, or being struck by it if you weren't aware there was something sticking out the side of the car a bit further than normal - plus the dangers for the guys adding/removing the temporary levers if they didn't get their timings right. But it seemed to operate for a very long time with zero incidents, so I guess the workers were really on their game during its operation!
Always a treat to watch. Didn’t realize how efficiently the cars emptied. Thanks for sharing your expertise!
Glad you enjoyed the car dumping Wolfman. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and may you have a most blessed day my friend.
A great insight into a lifelong career. Thank you sir for the peek!
Your welcome glad you enjoyed
@@ccrx6700 "You're", as in "you are", not "your" as in "On your right side". Sheesh.
@@coloradostrong This isn't english class. This is RUclips. Nobody cares if someone uses the wrong word. Sheeesh.
@@coloradostrong I am thankful that people are putting good videos on RUclips for others to enjoy during this pandemic. Sorry, but I think that we can figure out what this gentleman meant whether or not he used you're or your. I applaud him for taking the time to respond back to comments.
Wow, you’re walking history!! Congrats on having long career in your industry!
Been here for awhile ought to know a little something about
the history of this place. I big regret is didn't write more stuff
down thru the years, events I remember, but dates are often
lost in the dark recesses of my mind. Thanks so much Dominic
for checking out the video and writing in.
Okay, you are one of my favorite railroad youtubers now! :) I love how you describe and show all aspects of the operation. Very informative! I am going through and slowly watching your older videos to catch up.
Thank you, glad you enjoy. Great user name you got there!
Yep 👍🏻
Has to be cool to own your own 1:1 gauge railroad.
Awesome. Just awesome. Love watching that coal unload. You should have kept track of how many cars and tons have been unloaded there. Slick operation.
Cathy thank you glad you enjoyed, im sure accounting keeps track, we are not privy to that kind of info tho
3 years after you posted this it came up on my recommendations. Great job explaining this; was very interesting. I hope the camera shy operator is doing well too!
3 years late is better than never Zanduras. :-) Thank you very much your watching and may you have a very good day my friend.
Fascinating! Thank you, and thank the company for allowing you to provide this entertaining and educational material!
Your welcome Steve, great to hear you enjoyed the show sir
It’s cool to see these unload. 100 tons dumps out fast! Coal is all you see trains haul in my area (Southeast Kentucky)
Glad you enjoyed the show today, we do appreciate your watching sir.
Show us some of the barge loading operation sometime. Thanks!
Jack, okay i will try do that sometime, just dont know when
Yeah the barge operation would be interesting to see.
Love these videos! We get to see things in railroading that we otherwise wouldn't see. (The obsessive compulsive side of me wants to brush the coal off those cross bars. lol)
Great to hear you are enjoying them Traveller. We do appreciate
your watching
Lol. I was thinking the same thing
Thanks for sharing. Feel your passion and pride.
Albert, thank you happy you enjoyed the show
I worked at a coal pier and the cars were turned upside down to dump.
This was the first time I seen one unloaded from the bottom. Thanks for sharing this video.
Your welcome David, I've seen a rotary dump before, it's really
awesome to watch! Thanks for writing in and for watching the
video sir
Thanks for sharing. This is stuff that only guys like you can share. Keep it up!
Thank you for nice comment, do appreciate that and glad you enjoyed the show
I've unloaded box cars, refer cars, tankers, and bottom slide grain card and gondola cars, always wondered how those unloaded. Very cool video
Thanks for taking the time to check out the video Andrew, we do
appreciate your tuning in my friend.
Very Cool video and Nice job explaining things to us with your long service and experience there.👍
Ken, thank you for nice comment and glad you enjoyed watching
After having seen this procedure from trackside, I was thrilled to be able to see it from above! Many thanks!
Your welcome Pete, again thank you for watching
Respect Jerry’s witches.
Yes sir, thanks for watchin
@whiteclifffl well played 😂 👍🏿
I was working with a train team. There are100 cars in a coal train. In Tennessee coal plant they had same building but didn’t see how it work. Thank for showing videos
Very glad you enjoyed the show Lora. We do appreciate your
stopping by and taking in the video today.
Great video. Thanks for sharing and appreciate the narration! And a good day to you too sir.
Wow that was so cool to see how the coal was emptied from the hopper car. Thank you for sharing buddy and as always be safe!!
😊 your welcome
Cool stuff!! Now I've seen the bottom dump and the rotary dump. Thanks for sharing! I really hope you're able to get a video on the remote operator if they'll allow you to do so. Stay safe out there on the rails!
Great to hear you enjoyed, will try to get a video on the remote
control box sometime, it's pretty neat piece of equipment.
We do appreciate your writing in and for watching the video Alaina
Thank you for sharing so many behind the scenes activities.
Your welcome, glad you enjoyed
This is always a neat operation. I love all your behind the scenes stuff.
Coal prices are going up. It's pretty difficult to find good quality coal at a decent price.
I would really like to see how those remotes work. I used to volunteer with a rr museum that has a 3 foot gauge GE 55 tonner from US Steel with rc equipment. Apparently they still have the controller, but I never saw it.
The loco doesn't run anymore anyway. Needs a lot of work, like much everything else in the collection.
But, that's railroadin'!
Thanks for sharing, as always! Stay safe out there.
Glad you enjoyed Bryson. Someday I will show how the remote
control system works here, just haven't gotten to it yet, so much
other stuff going on. Right now natural gas prices have been rising
for the past 6 or so months and utilities are re thinking their
position on burning cheaper coal than gas. Awesome to hear
you did some volunteer work! That's great.
That was fascinating!
First time I’ve ever seen a hopper car get unloaded!
Very glad you enjoyed Dan. Here is another one where
we get up closer to the action you may enjoy watching also.
We do appreciate your visiting with us today my good man.
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Fascinating. Thanks for sharing
Thank you glad you enjoyed the show
I grew up outside of Chi-town. Worked at a ready-mix concrete plant. Unloaded cement, sand & gravel from trains. Used pinch bar to move bottom dump gondolas occasionally. Materials were run through a dryer, then uploaded to overhead bins. Then dropped by recipe to paper sacks, sewn closed by manual control, conveyored to pallets or stacks, moved to warehouse or trucks in shipping dock. My hands, arms & back still ache thinking about it.
But the '47 knucklehead springer jockey shift on ape-hangers kept me focused on the drive home in late '60s. Great video to recall those days.
Very interesting Jerrold, I can see why you still have aches! that's
hard work! Glad you enjoyed the movie
Thank You for doing the video. I've always wanted to do an eyes-on of coal and grain being dumped. Perhaps, sometime,would you be able to video a segment on what happens underground while coal is in the process of being dumped?? Are there catwalks down there?
Your welcome Harry, glad you enjoyed. I am unable to do any videos
of what goes on underground, I never ever go in the mine, although
i've been on a tour 20 some years ago. It is fascinating to see
the huge stuff they have for mining the coal. No catwalks under
ground, but there are tracks everywhere, that's how they get
the miners and machinery in to the sections
@@ccrx6700 Was this anywhere on the former N&W? Because the USGS thinks that some of the coal fields the N&W served are running out.
Pretty sure I've seen this setup before, But I don't mind watching again. Thank you so much for sharing it with us (heres a like).
Glad you enjoyed the show today Toms Tech. We do appreciate your
tuning in and checking it out sir.
Cool video! Very informative. And I like the Pittsburgh accent! Got relatives in Clairton so got to know it well growing up.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the show
TONES OF AWSOMENESS 100 POINTS GREAT JOB
Very glad to hear you enjoyed the movie John and thank you for
the nice comment. Appreciate very much your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Neat Video! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Tammy, glad you enjoyed watch
I wondered how long it takes to empty. Brings back memories of those long, slow coal trains heading to Hampton Roads port Virginia.
Just about 1 minute to dump a car Mary when they don't have to
wait for the silo to empty down. He was a bit slow going that day
because they were waiting on the river crew to load enough coal
out of the silo into barges. Very much appreciate your taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.
Nice video, have seen another where the guy dumping had a battery pack kind of like a cordless drill and just touched a probe to one of 3 buttons on the side of the car
That would be neat, i,ve never seen that
Thanks for showing! I always wondered how they unloaded hopper cars and how it looked like. Thank you! (NYC)
Very much appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and
watch the video today Oz Garcia.
Cool video! Thanks for posting!!
James thank you, glad you enjoyed the show
Nice presentation of a now a highly diminished industry.
Glad you enjoyed Geoffrey. Domestically the need for coal has
changed considerable. Upper management here has told us
that they can sell as much coal as we can produce and if it
can't be sold domestic, then it can be sold foreign. For 2021 we actually have been unable to keep up with the domestic demand
for coal and that's great for the 750 guys that work here, plus all
the supply and contracting industries that support our mine.
That was interesting to see now all you have to do is film them barges being filled. Thanks for the video Stay Safe ✌️
Thank you Bill, have had many requests to do barges, i dont get down there often, but will try
HAHA! Used to work at a heating plant where the C&O brought our coal in. We had to manually unlatch the doors (3 bay) and then climb into the cars to shovel down any coal sticking to the sides. Sometimes the coal would be frozen solid in the cars, so we had to get in with picks, sledge hammers, and a steam hose and break it loose. When we would get multiple cars and they wouldn't fit on the trestle, we had to move them with John Deer loaders and logging chains. A couple of guys would have to ride the cars and brake them manually when they were over the coal pit.
Good job! Thanks for the details. What did we do before "automation"?
Mark, thank you, woulda been lot hand shovelin ...
I've seen a video of a man shoveling coal from a pile on the ground into a wheel barrow then pushing it up a plank to dump it into a steam locomotive coal tender. It was in India in the 1970s.
@@thomasdupee1440 glad we dont have that job! Ive seen some tenders filled with an excavator, that would be fun
Awesome. Do the doors operate from the train's air brake reservoirs?
No sir they do not, Train has a separate line to dump the doors with. Think about it, if air pressure was taken from the train
brake line, then brakes on the cars would go on every time
you dumped a door. Thanks for watching and writing in my friend.
Thanks for the video. My son and I watch the trains up here in Vermont and have been wondering how the hopper car unloads wood chips at the wood-burning electricity plant. Now we know!
Awesome Joe, great way spend time with your son, we need more dads like you
Really cool to see the discharge from the top and bottom! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed watching, we do thank you for tuning in.
Awesome footage awesome,
Johnny, thank you very much, glad you enjoyed the show
Neat stuff. Got a couple guys who worked in Cumberland with me now. I’m at USS Clairton plant. Super neat stuff
Glad you enjoyed Chuck, is wells one of those guys? Not sure what plant he went to
Wow never realized it would empty that fast
Amazing isnt it. He can dump 38 cars in 45 minutes if all goes well
Not all hoppers will empty so quickly. The cars shown in this video are "rapid-discharge" hoppers. Notice that there are two doors on the bottom of each of the intermediate bays.
@@thomasdupee1440 very observant Thomas! You are right!
Great video. I always wondered how they dumped them, and that was FAST! Thank you for the video.
Your welcome Thomas, i'm glad you enjoyed the show 😊
Absolutely amazing. We need more coal power plants. Coal Provides such good jobs.
Yes sir, lets hope it happens
Of course, there are a few reasons why coal consumption has been steadily declining since 2008, and will continue to do so. E.g. Powder River down 40% since peak.
Thanks for showing us this operation. We have a OG&E power plant that runs on coal. I always wanted to know how and where the coal is unloaded.
Your welcome Larry, glad you enjoyed sir, we do appreciate your
watching
That thing disappeared faster than the pizza on my pizza night geesh.
LOL, thanks for watchin
@@ccrx6700 I am in ky and used to watch them dump at the Ghent ky K/U plant except they rolled the car it went upside down
Okay so I have a question and hoping maybe you know. We were discussing on the one STL cam about the roll over dumpers and how they work when it comes to coal cars. Do the cars have swivel couplers on both ends or just one end? If just one end do they only rotate one way, so the couplers stay horizontal? does it matter which direction the car is hooked up (I guess that would depend on if the couplers only swivel/twist one direction)? Hope this makes sense.
I've never actually watched a rotary dump in person, so won't be
of great help with you on this. However all our cars that can be rotary
dumped only have one end of the car designated as the rotary end.
Hope that helps a small bit and thanks for watching the video.
@@ccrx6700 Can those couplers twist either direction or only one?
@@mistikknight6571 either
@@ccrx6700 Thank you I appreciate the information.
@@mistikknight6571 😊
Is Jerry's remote operating a locomotive?
Yes sir, Jerry is controlling the remote unit, it is called a belt pack
These videos is very educational
I always wonder how does these hopper cars operated thank you for letting me know about this
Thank you Dwayne and great to hear you enjoyed 😊
Jerry must be in the witness protection program. "No Pictures!!"
Pretty cool! At USS Gary works I used to watch the mill guys dump coke in the bins on the high line behind the blast furnaces. Shop made cars on old reused friction bearing trucks. Massive cars with longitudinal doors that dumped very fast. Winters were a mess because fresh coke is quenched after being shoved out of the oven so that it wouldn't just catch fire and burn up so it was wet and then would freeze up in the cars. Loved watching and learning about steel making. Fascinating stuff
Very interesting Matt! appreciate your sharing that with us, alas what a great mill Gary was, so sad so many mills have been shut down
@@ccrx6700 Gary works I believe is about the biggest. Still kicking!
@@mattberg916 great to hear that Matt, 👍
Awww yeah. Good ole coal rail industry :3
Yep, gotta keep thode black diamonds movin! Thanks for eatchin
@@ccrx6700 welcome. I really oughta get some N scale coal cars myself hehe
@@kishascape oh I think it would really be in your best interests ... 😉
That is neat to watch! Thanks for making and sharing this.
Thank you John. Glad you enjoyed. We appreciate the very
nice comment my friend.
Surprisingly fast
nothing quick about that setup
@@GWRProductions-kg9pt that's what your mom said.
@@judeodomhnaill9711 that was fucking pathetic
Thanks for the great commentary 👍
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the show
9:18 is the money shot. You're welcome.
the video isn't that long, you're welcome.
Thankyou my engineer sir.
For this good surprise ❤️💛💚🤍
of the fantastic view 👍👍
Your very welcome and thank you so much for taking in the
video today my friend from India.
Lovely cheap, plentiful, clean burning coal.
We do sell a lot of that stuff here eprn and management tells us they
can sell all the coal we produce here. Last year we sold around 5.4
million tons, a bit of a down year for us. 6 million is a pretty good year.
Thanks so much for watching the hopper cars dumping video my friend.
Cool!
Amazing there's no dust when they dump all that. I guess they have water or fans handling that.
The coal is a bit damp from processing at the prep plant. Way
back when we started they had a thermal dryer at the prep plant and man the dust was present then. But now dust is very minimal and
thats a good thing
Cool
Thank you Ann, glad you enjoyed the show
Thank you for the video! Lots of coal moved fast!
Your welcome Pete, glad you enjoyed, we do move a lot of coal here,
bout 6 to 7 million tons on a good year! Appreciate your watching sir
i expected it to be way dustier and messier
Yes surprising it isnt. Thanks for comment
Wow that was quick!! Great video Dave
Thank you David, good hear you enjoyed 😊
EV fuel....🤗
Yes sir it is! I saw a coal hopper car on another RR that had
that spray painted on it's side. Loved it! The average person
does not even realize that coal is behind what produces the
energy to recharge their EV cars. The demand for coal in
this country and across the world is tremendous right now,
mines cannot keep up with demand. Thanks for stopping
by and watching the video today my good man.
Mining for lithium and burning coal for electricity these people are destroying the planet more than a gas powered vehicle is
Thank you for sharing this great video!! I have often wondered how they empt6ied coal cars besides rotating them. Now I know and I will pass it on to my grandkid's
Your welcome,great to hear you enjoyed the show 👍
nice video, i watch a lot of your train videos thank you for all the work that goes into each one
Very pleased to hear you enjoyed the video Jim. We do
appreciate the nice comment and for watching sir.
Hi Mr Dave this was one of the neatest videos always wanted to see how those were emptied
Very glad you enjoyed Barbara. We really appreciate your
dropping by and taking in the show my friend.
I just got to go down there a few months ago and destroy the old rail cars for scrap. I watched this in person. Really interesting
Pretty awesome to watch and how quickly it goes. Appreciate your
writing in and for checking out the video my friend.
Out standing, Thanks for sharing.
Your quite welcome Kevin, pleased to hear you enjoyed. There is
about 115 tons in each car and it doesn't take very long to empty
a car out. Very grateful for your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
Great video. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day.
Thank you Kurt, glad you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to check out the car dumping video and write in my friend.
Enjoyed your video of the newer coal transport cars dumping coal into silo storage. Is there reason to be concerned with the spontaneous fires being ignited in coal storage facilities?
Excellent question William. We have never had a fire in this silo since we started in 1977. At the bottom of the feeder where the coal dumps on a belt to go into the silo is an exhaust fan. Also on top
of the silo is an exhaust fan that one runs 24/7. There is a back up
fan on top if that one goes down. It is taking methane gas out of the
silo.
If the silo exhaust fan stops and the other one won't run, then all
feeders and belts will stop and not start until the exhaust fan is
running again.
There is also a methane monitor at the bottom of the silo and
if it gets in a certain range, that shuts all equipment down also until
the methane is exhausted.
There have been instances at other mines where coal has caught
fire in the silos, but I really don't know any details about how that
occured. We have been lucky
Coal Dust can ignite explosively. See the Imperial Sugar Company Dust Explosion and Fire on RUclips. The same applies to coal dust. There was a video in a building of an MSHA Coal Dust Ignition Test, it was confined in a building with canvas curtains, a hardhat full of coal dust, and dispersed and ignited. Big fire, explosive in nature.
I worked at a facility back in 1990's...we hammered the latches by hand, then myself and 3 others would go down to the river and drop loaded barges by hand and move the empty into place.....real fun job....lol
Damn awesome vid pard thanx!! 👍👍👍
Shane, thank you glad you liked the show
for a while our local power company owned aluminum hoppers...and had its coal brought in from the coal fields of mont....wyoming!
We used to have all steel cars, then they were replaced with
the aluminum ones. All the steel cars got scrapped then.
Each car has 200 ton? What 5 maybe 6 seconds to unload? I used to think the belly dump I used to drive was fast but damn, this is fast. Thank you and be safe.
Each car's about 100 tons.
An awesome video! It is very interesting and educational to see how coal is dumped out of coal hopper cars from a train! Plus, loaded coal trains are absolutely my favorite trains to see on the railroad! Anyways, a great video!
Thank you very much Zacharias, really glad to hear you enjoyed
watching. Love your avatar! The B & O is the way to go!
I think this works faster than turning the train cars upside down !
Yes it does Steve, plus don't have to re connect the air hoses on
the cars, appreciate your watching sir
That's my 3rd time Watching that one.Never gets old.
LOL Glad you enjoyed Ed
The upper brace on the coal cars is flat trapping a bit of coal if the tops were angled or half round would that help you
Yes they are Ken, you would think the manufacturer would have
put the rounded or angled tops on those. Thank you very much
for taking the time to check out the video and write in my friend.
I've always wondered if the coal cars were dumped while in motion or if it was constant stop and go and then how many cars at a time.
One coal fired power plant near me (Consumers Energy JH Campbell in Michigan) used to have a rotary dump system but went to a bottom dump system like yours (although given the length of their shed, they likely dump more than one car at a time). They get around 100 train cars a day for their three boilers.
We do appreciate your taking the time to tune in and
and check out the video David.
Hope you will sometime check out more of our Railroad videos at:
ruclips.net/user/ccrx6700
Thanks for posting this, it's really interesting to see how this is done.
Glad you enjoyed the show and thanks for watching 👍
Wow you have been with your company 43 years I've been with Norfolk southern 27 if I can make it to 30 I'm gonna hang it up! Where does the barges off load?
Hi jason, awesome you work ns, curious where at? Im close to ns track near waynesburg pa. They haul coal outa baily mine. We have many customers so where they off load is varied, i really dont know all the customers and where the coal ends up at. We do have a foreign customer, Hyundai, coal goes to them in korea and south america, plus a few domestic power plants
@@ccrx6700 they have moved me all over it seems but I'm in Birmingham Alabama. I run from Birmingham to Atlanta daily. Bham use to be a big hub for steel. U.S steel all but shut down here. From my understanding they got rid of their blast Furness and got some kinda of electric something another. Said it's cheaper and don't require as much labor to run and they can used recycled metals. We also have our share of coal mines but like alot of other things they too have shut down ( alot of them that's still open have decreased production). Intermodels traffic saved us, ethanol helped but rail traffic is down, alot of people have been furloughed and I doubt they will be called back it's sad really sad. We run longer trains now which is a cluster you know what. But I've gotta make hay when the sun is shining so to speak.
@@jasonking2943 Boooo electric. Why would you hang it up though? Keep on going!
@@kishascape when things change and change for the worse it's time it's just time
Wow! That is so cool! Thanks for showing! ☕🍻👍
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed the show
About 12 seconds to unload a car full of coal. Incredible.
Goes pretty quick doesn't it Neil, thanks for watching sir
Reckon you're handling proper quality product there, seen clips of other facilities that require a vibration unit to shake the load out \m/
In winter it sometimes has a problem sticking to sides, although once temps get below freezing the cars are sprayed right before loading with a slide release agent which helps tremendously