I Own a Home with My Brother and It's a Mess

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  • I Own a Home with My Brother and It's a Mess
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Комментарии • 364

  • @TerryOnDemand
    @TerryOnDemand 4 года назад +219

    Ummmm...This house is NOT a gift🙃.
    Your parents simply bought a house THAT you and your brother are paying for.🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @inthevault9603
      @inthevault9603 4 года назад +22

      This is one of the worst phone calls ever. Stupid premise.

    • @NickSiekierski
      @NickSiekierski 4 года назад +22

      @@inthevault9603 It's titled "I own a home with my brother" but it sounds like they just share a mortgage.

    • @deanalbertson7203
      @deanalbertson7203 4 года назад +4

      I agree that it is not a gift, if you are paying for it. If you want to stay there, one option is to just continue making payments on the house as usual. With any extra money you have, you could continue on with the Baby Steps, putting money in a savings account, a retirement account, or a mutual fund.

    • @porkchoppeaches
      @porkchoppeaches 4 года назад +6

      You still pay less then you would have renting and now you own half a property and the equity from it. Parents paid the down payment and got them a mortgage when they didn’t make enough or have enough credit. It’s a leg up

  • @How2HateYT
    @How2HateYT 4 года назад +288

    Rent out your side, use the rent to pay your parents, buy your new house.
    You can rent that duplex for more than what you pay in mortgage.

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад +7

      Good in theory, but I would guess the taxation would be difficult. Imagine the depreciation- who would get it? Who would pay taxes? Parent or child? Unless you are talking about an illegal cash only rental? Parents could rent it out and daughter can just give up her share.

    • @angr3841
      @angr3841 4 года назад +1

      @@betruetoyourself7162 agree, but she might not want to do that, as she has already paid towards the house. doubt her parents would return the money, as in buying it back from her since it was a gift to begin with. complicated stuff.

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад +4

      Ang r yes, I wouldn’t want to have anything to do with it. Siblings or relatives shouldn’t split homes. Watched many families destroy themselves arguing about it. It is really sad to watch 😢

    • @Philippinesbound42
      @Philippinesbound42 4 года назад +6

      There is no hot area in New Orleans. Whole city is a dump

    • @freewifi7163
      @freewifi7163 4 года назад +2

      I was about to type the same thing

  • @jeanlenor1858
    @jeanlenor1858 4 года назад +274

    How is this house a gift if you're paying a mortgage on it? Why are we not talking about the equity in this duplex and the balance owed on it?

    • @YouTubeUzername
      @YouTubeUzername 4 года назад +28

      That’s what I couldn’t figure out.

    • @clarifyingquestions
      @clarifyingquestions 4 года назад +18

      Cause it doesn't matter. It was a bad idea and they need to get out. So they talked about a few different ways of going about it. The gift part was the down pmt.

    • @angr3841
      @angr3841 4 года назад +26

      This is what i would call, a unwanted gift that came with unwanted expenses and problems.

    • @sherondahi11
      @sherondahi11 4 года назад +8

      Because the parents have borrowed against the equity

    • @RAFatturi
      @RAFatturi 4 года назад +19

      My inlaws sold me a house that they thought was gift. We paid market value for the house so not a gift. We ended up with over a 100k of repairs after it passed inspections. We sold and most 60k in appreciation. It was awful, I don't want to own another home again.

  • @trentsmith357
    @trentsmith357 4 года назад +193

    Never accept a liability as a gift. Only PAID IN FULL assets.

    • @jakeleisure8326
      @jakeleisure8326 4 года назад +2

      @@devilsadvocate7059 Assuming they couldn't get approved and didnt provide a down payment, then yes still a gift in that sense

    • @RAFatturi
      @RAFatturi 4 года назад +2

      @@jakeleisure8326 I see what you're saying, it's just a gift with strings attached which happen to be money with interest. So maybe a bad gift but still a gift I guess.

    • @Stormy_Dawn
      @Stormy_Dawn 4 года назад +4

      I think the gift was in giving their children stability while they figured out what they wanted to do with their lives. Their parents essentially gave them something to build on & it seems as if only the daughter got the memo that it was a stepping stone to grow up & have something to be able to sell or rent out once they were grown.

    • @frankiesmom8478
      @frankiesmom8478 4 года назад +1

      You could put that in a book of quotes

    • @epnazlou
      @epnazlou 4 года назад +3

      The parents own your home , they own you

  • @tomy
    @tomy 4 года назад +134

    The relationship is different when somebody owes you money. Crazy how true that is..

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY 4 года назад +180

    “Every time you borrow money, you're robbing your future self.”
    --Nathan W. Morris

    • @steelcastle5616
      @steelcastle5616 4 года назад +6

      There are many successful businesses that have had to borrow money at some time during their existence.
      There is no guarantee of success in US business (every day is a gamble).

    • @armandol1826
      @armandol1826 4 года назад +3

      Bezos must be robbing himself then?

    • @CanoeToNewOrleans
      @CanoeToNewOrleans 4 года назад

      What you say is worth thinking about but it isn't always true. A loan could be a way to make your future self richer. In countries where university is affordable, a loan to pay for education (assuming the degree is marketable) will allow your future self to earn a better salary.

    • @Sombra_Azul_
      @Sombra_Azul_ 4 года назад

      Profound!

    • @michaelblasius7705
      @michaelblasius7705 4 года назад +2

      Borrowing for consumption will make you poor. Borrowing for production may make you rich.

  • @SilVia-hs2kb
    @SilVia-hs2kb 4 года назад +56

    My husband owned a home with his sister and was talked into signing the house over prior to our marriage under the guise of "it would just complicate things" and you will get your money later. Almost 9 years later, she sold the home, pocketed the whole sale. My in laws never interjected in our favor. That's 6 years or so of mortgage payments and a 25k down payment he never saw back. We have owned our home for 7 years now, are happily married but no longer speak to any of his family. Family and money don't mix. Once someone steals from you, the fact that they are family only makes things worse not better.

  • @Light-vu6ws
    @Light-vu6ws 4 года назад +64

    Imagine lending money to your children with interest to make yourself money. wow

    • @terriholliday8038
      @terriholliday8038 4 года назад +2

      Right?!

    • @jonymanay
      @jonymanay 4 года назад +1

      Your parents offer you 2% the bank offers 5% which offer you gonna take.

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад +1

      jonymanay I agree. I would take the 2% all day. On the parents side, I can see why they would do it too. It is a win win except if anything goes wrong.....like now.

    • @usernameluis305
      @usernameluis305 4 года назад +2

      @@jonymanay id rather not get saddled to a location with my brother on a duplex i didnt want

    • @Light-vu6ws
      @Light-vu6ws 4 года назад +4

      @@jonymanay bro that offer shouldn't even have been made in the first place. It's just so wrong. A loan at 0% from the parents or outright paying for half of the mortgage would have made more sense. Yikes parents.

  • @untouchable360x
    @untouchable360x 4 года назад +146

    "Blood and business don't mix."

    • @davidliang913
      @davidliang913 4 года назад +4

      Nice quote! I totally agree!

    • @steelcastle5616
      @steelcastle5616 4 года назад +12

      That's not necessarily true.
      There are many family businesses that have been very successful.
      It probably has more to do with the family members involved.

    • @TykoBrian7
      @TykoBrian7 4 года назад +4

      @@steelcastle5616 Walmart

    • @untouchable360x
      @untouchable360x 4 года назад +2

      @@steelcastle5616 Business might be successful. But we don't know about the turmoil and dysfunction as a result of family members working together.

    • @TheTruthContestt
      @TheTruthContestt 4 года назад

      That’s not true, they can mix because business can sometimes lead to blood. Bad business ventures may lead to war, fights, and further bloodshed.

  • @MimiNwabuokuMD
    @MimiNwabuokuMD 4 года назад +76

    It seems like the parents tried to set this lady up to be saddled with mothering her older brother, because they know that he is irresponsible. They aren’t considering the situation from the viewpoint of her new family unit.

    • @sherondahi11
      @sherondahi11 4 года назад +5

      Mimi N Yep, the parents don’t want the son to move back home if they sell the duplex

    • @grod805
      @grod805 4 года назад +2

      how did you know he's irresponsible just from this?

    • @dollparts7506
      @dollparts7506 4 года назад +8

      grod805 she literally said even before she got married she was mothering him even though he is older.

    • @grod805
      @grod805 4 года назад

      @@dollparts7506 that's her point of view. Nothing she said made it seem like he was irredeemable

    • @annastarr2043
      @annastarr2043 3 года назад +3

      @@grod805 you weren't listening. She said she does ALL the work

  • @davidliang913
    @davidliang913 4 года назад +114

    Owning a home is a huge commitment and going into it with friends or family can get complicated easily if intentions become unclear over the years. This is a tough situation.

    • @asadb1990
      @asadb1990 4 года назад +10

      i had this happen to me when my parents got me to become partners with them for a house. they were far more powerful financially. but they were such bullies when it came to paying my half. but when it came to sharing all expenses they would back out because their downpay was more. and they decide to move, we are stuck with the hassle of cleaning, and closing. and they rip us off on the profit.

  • @greggpurviance7252
    @greggpurviance7252 4 года назад +120

    It was purchased with funds from a trust set up for them? Are they repaying their trust? The whole thing is weird

    • @joeb1522
      @joeb1522 4 года назад +16

      Agreed. The facts she provided make no sense.

    • @giveme10feet
      @giveme10feet 4 года назад +14

      Yes. Parents shouldn't give any house to their kids except in a will! The Trust may have been exhausted or they paid closing costs and the kids are literally paying a mortgage!

    • @yamamancha
      @yamamancha 4 года назад +11

      I imagine the parents' financial planner talked them into using their own kids to create tax advantages for themselves.
      This "gift" has little benefit to the kids but numerous benefits for the parents.

    • @ceciliapreziose3783
      @ceciliapreziose3783 4 года назад +3

      thats right sounds illegal

    • @Tam712
      @Tam712 4 года назад +3

      Yep, I agree on it being weird. Unfortunately, I don't think the parents were that well-intentioned. I feel like it's a little bit of control mum and dad can have over the kids. Maybe, I am just too cynical.

  • @Education-Edge
    @Education-Edge 4 года назад +42

    I would NEVER do business with my family. I like to keep business business and personal life separate 😄🙃

    • @tyckeri
      @tyckeri 4 года назад

      @Lisa B Please tell me the story!!

    • @auroramothergoddess
      @auroramothergoddess 3 года назад

      My dad wants me to chip in for a real estate property because my parents don’t have enough money... boy after I saw their bank accounts I want to move out ASAP

  • @knownonsense2015
    @knownonsense2015 4 года назад +28

    Money does terrible things to good people. Just pretend you're poor!!!! No one can ask you for money if they think you don't have it!

    • @trw4war322
      @trw4war322 4 года назад

      Know Nonsense Great Point! Words to Live By!!!

    • @SherryEllesson
      @SherryEllesson 4 года назад

      Know Nonsense, nobody in this video is talking about anyone asking for money. It's a shared obligation on a mortgage. Period.

    • @hugojuicevalladares8713
      @hugojuicevalladares8713 4 года назад

      Can I borrow 5k...

  • @catherinetsitlakidis6746
    @catherinetsitlakidis6746 4 года назад +77

    Why not rent out her side and keep on going???

    • @RAFatturi
      @RAFatturi 4 года назад +13

      I thought the same thing. Rent it for a little more and keep the profit.

    • @studionv
      @studionv 4 года назад

      Great idea rent out you side and buy another one ☝️

    • @sophia4christ
      @sophia4christ 4 года назад

      Catherine Tsitlakidis n

    • @RAFatturi
      @RAFatturi 4 года назад

      @@sophia4christ what?

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад +5

      She doesn’t own it. She cannot rent it.

  • @olivewoo522
    @olivewoo522 4 года назад +43

    I thought by the title the brother lived with the sister and he is messy. 😂

    • @thecatnextdoor12
      @thecatnextdoor12 4 года назад +1

      It’s now the lady calling from yesterday’s video “I’m living in my sister’s basement.”

  • @Stormy_Dawn
    @Stormy_Dawn 4 года назад +15

    I'd definitely rent it out & use that income on my new mortgage with my hubby. It's a win win. Brother gets to stay, sister & hubby get their privacy, parents still get their interest & sit on it until property values are so high that her brother wants to sell. That way everything is still evenly split & no feelings are hurt or relationships further damaged.

    • @harrisonwintergreen1147
      @harrisonwintergreen1147 4 года назад

      Renting to family is rarely a win-win

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад +1

      One of the reasons a landlord makes money is through offsetting rental income against depreciation and other expenses. If she does have a contract with her parents to buy her half, then she would have to pay landlord insurance and property taxes and all other ownership costs to lower the rental income. If not her taxes on the rental income federal maybe 22%. It might not be a good cash flow for her family. The parents can rent out the place instead and just give her a handout.

  • @Erica-wz8yv
    @Erica-wz8yv 4 года назад +59

    My aunt and uncle sold their house and bought a larger home to share with one of their daughters (plus her husband and 2 kids) Well the other daughter wanted in (plus her own husband and kids) and they ALL moved in together. That lasted about 2 months 🤣 and now one of the daughters is no longer speaking to her family 😕 My aunt and uncle had good intentions I’m sure, but it’s just a bad idea all around.

    • @SkySilver777
      @SkySilver777 4 года назад +6

      I think that could only work if there were few of any shared spaces. Everyone would need a living room, kitchen, bathroom etc. better to buy individual houses on the same road.

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад +3

      Sky Silver imagine when the foundation or roof needs work! It would almost always be a bad idea

    • @SkySilver777
      @SkySilver777 4 года назад +3

      Be True To Yourself everything would have to be agreed on in a contract beforehand for sure. I think it could only be a good idea if each family within the house really needed the financial help. Living together for fun or something could very well ruin the relationship. I’ve read that living in the same TOWN as family can break up a marriage. Nevermind one roof lol

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад +2

      Sky Silver I agree! I live in an area where it is common to have like 4-8 names on a mortgage. Some of my neighbors living with 15+ in a house. Sometimes you can hear them fighting and in a few years the house goes for sale. It is sad for them. One person should own the property and let the rest live there if they want to let them.

    • @inthevault9603
      @inthevault9603 4 года назад +1

      Sounds awful.

  • @aidanlacy8912
    @aidanlacy8912 4 года назад +18

    It is not clear who owns the duplex, the parents or the children, since the children are paying a 'mortgage" to the parents and not to a Mortgage Company.

    • @morganadams4238
      @morganadams4238 4 года назад +11

      It sounds like they are basically just renting their parents property.

    • @jonymanay
      @jonymanay 4 года назад +2

      Its in a family trust that she may have a 1/4 claim to, hopefully. If she divorces the husband cant touch that asset.

  • @kensmoneymatters
    @kensmoneymatters 4 года назад +11

    Financial boundaries within the family can be complicated. This is one such case. People also have different Financial values and this wasn't well thought out

  • @FlutterSwag
    @FlutterSwag 4 года назад +14

    Literally 90% of these videos are communication problems

  • @col_klynkgaming8288
    @col_klynkgaming8288 4 года назад +9

    Dave: so you own a duplex with your brother, do you live in it? Does your brother live in it? So your brother lives in a duplex? Does he live in the duplex that you both live in? Where does your brother live? Let me make sure I understand this, your brother lives in the other half of a duplex that you both live in? I’m confused

  • @amandadean3948
    @amandadean3948 4 года назад +1

    Totally agree with Dave. I never lend money to people. I gift it to them. If it’s more than I feel comfortable gifting , then I don’t do it. To this day I’ve never fallen out with a friend or family member over money.

  • @belledesigngroupbdg3513
    @belledesigngroupbdg3513 4 года назад +16

    I’ve been there! I had to sue my brother to get out of the deal. Luckily I won my case. I haven’t talked to my brother since I saw him in court. He burned me. So glad that’s over!

    • @TheRadralph
      @TheRadralph 4 года назад +1

      Was it worth it?

    • @8rice622
      @8rice622 4 года назад +3

      Trouble is, you may be done with the past, but the past may not be done with you.

    • @belledesigngroupbdg3513
      @belledesigngroupbdg3513 4 года назад +1

      Ralph Raphael Absolutely!

    • @belledesigngroupbdg3513
      @belledesigngroupbdg3513 4 года назад +1

      n rice Trust me, that part of my past is done!

    • @joannamorales9180
      @joannamorales9180 4 года назад +1

      Same situation but didn’t decide to go to court for it because of my ethical integrity. Sad thing is family is lost because of money or greed.

  • @timelessmusicfamilymusic9175
    @timelessmusicfamilymusic9175 4 года назад +2

    It's best not to make any deals with family or friends if you value them & don't ever want them out of your life.

  • @Darkrachet
    @Darkrachet 4 года назад +22

    I bought a house with my brother too and it ended up being a pretty big mistake.

    • @clarifyingquestions
      @clarifyingquestions 4 года назад +1

      My brother and sister in law bought a house together and it turned out great. Communication and Relationships is the hallmark of everything!

    • @bangladeshirealtor
      @bangladeshirealtor 4 года назад +7

      Colleen Jones u mean your brother and his wife ? Lol

  • @33Jenesis
    @33Jenesis 3 года назад +2

    Never buy with siblings and boy/girl friend. My work is property tax related and I’ve heard many messy situations from these homeowners every week.

  • @715SF
    @715SF 4 года назад +7

    Rent out your side of the duplex...
    In 3.... 2.... 1....
    Brother now wants to sell the whole duplex

  • @mikemcbeth3216
    @mikemcbeth3216 4 года назад +10

    She wants t the whole thing That's what's going on but brother will never let it happen

  • @James-vj5hz
    @James-vj5hz 4 года назад +9

    I don't understand the issue here. I've never seen duplexes that don't qualify as individual units. Why can't she just sell the side she lives in?

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад

      Because they share a wall some places sell duplexes as one unit. Some you tubers (GrahamStephen) advocate purchasing duplexes because banks in California consider them residential loans. Live in one and rent out the other. I think it is just messy because parents are acting like a bank and sold it to a partnership of brother and sister, which creates messy drama

    • @fnordiumendures138
      @fnordiumendures138 4 года назад +3

      Because it's not hers. You can't sell something that isn't yours.

  • @jamescadzow9545
    @jamescadzow9545 4 года назад +15

    When you bring a 3rd party opinion into your marriage you will always end up disappointed.
    With maturity and life experiences humans either learn from their mistakes or repeat the behavior.

  • @reyrecks
    @reyrecks 4 года назад +21

    She doesnt own the home. Just walk away from. Look at it like you were renting for those years.

    • @thecatnextdoor12
      @thecatnextdoor12 4 года назад +2

      Great explanation. I’d feel much better, if I was in such situation and heard this .

  • @balexandrio7227
    @balexandrio7227 4 года назад +22

    If the parents paid cash, why is she saying there’s a mortgage with interest? I iz confuzed

    • @heterosapien8426
      @heterosapien8426 4 года назад +4

      The parents financed the sale of the house to the kids, that way if one of the two couldn’t pay etc, the parents and not the bank would accelerate the loan, or in the case of the parents maybe they let it slide.

    • @FatMenace
      @FatMenace 4 года назад

      Paying them back

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад +2

      It’s a messy agreement. Essentially the parents are the bank. And sold it equally to two partners brother and sister. Now if there are any roofing or structural issues brother and sister need to decide who will pay and how much each. Mom and dad help one child in one emergency repair, the other will feel upset. This is perfect for creating family drama

  • @digginaustin
    @digginaustin 4 года назад +11

    This girl smh.. Rent out your half go buy another house

  • @colin1818
    @colin1818 4 года назад +1

    It always strikes me as somewhat odd when people say they "own" a house but have a massive mortgage and virtually no equity.

  • @donnaallgaier-lamberti3933
    @donnaallgaier-lamberti3933 4 года назад +1

    I co-owned a cottage home with my former in-laws. It was a huge mistake. My in-laws wanted the house to look and be used a "certain way" and I did not. The problem is that we each got one vote and I was ALWAYS outvoted 3 to 1. It was not structured to be set up for very selling it. They wanted it to stay in the family as a family cottage forever. They let all th other family members come and use it for free and we pay for half and I take care of it...lots of resentment...I would NEVER recommend this or do this again.

  • @DaynaChristinex3
    @DaynaChristinex3 4 года назад +9

    I highly doubt she is going to sell. You can hear it in her response when Dave recommended it.

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY 4 года назад +10

    "Problems that remain persistently insoluble should always be suspected as questions asked in the wrong way."
    --Alan Watts

    • @MrTmenzo
      @MrTmenzo 4 года назад

      Derp
      - Derp guy

  • @winser21
    @winser21 4 года назад +5

    Dave's translation: I own a howm with ma bruther and it's a MAYUSS.

  • @aquaticasmr184
    @aquaticasmr184 4 года назад +18

    Man im turning 25 and i wish Dave was my dad. My dad died left me nothing
    My mom wasnt able to help me afford school I could never imagine working and paying for school my self while actualy studying
    I never believed in debt
    At least i have no debt gotta get my income up some how budget well
    Fund my Roth and slow and steady ill do something

    • @rminitials
      @rminitials 4 года назад +5

      I'm sorry for your loss... I'm 28. My dad waa around but never worked a day in his life. My mom slaved day in day out to make ends meet. I have a CDL out here in NYC. I earn a good wage. Plan to start college in the fall or spring the latest to be a R.N. It's gonna be hard since I'll be paying my way through. Point is, it's never too late!! You can make it happen and you're 25. Youth is on your side and that's something money can't buy. I moved to NYC 8 years ago and took the first job I could find making $7.65 an hour. I'm doing significantly better now and you will be too! My best advice is if you're gonna go the college route do it NOW. I said I'd start college 7 years ago. Could have been done by now making 6 figures had I done that and just sacrificed a bit more. You got this!!

    • @RAFatturi
      @RAFatturi 4 года назад +3

      Sorry for your loss, my dad and mom didn't leave me anything either. Trust me, you can do everything you want without a trust.

    • @rminitials
      @rminitials 4 года назад +2

      Also- if you don't earn too much the government will help you a lot to get through school. You qualify for a bunch of incentives!! You'll end up paying a fraction of the cost. Do community college first, get good grades, then transfer out for your BA.

    • @michelarosier1918
      @michelarosier1918 4 года назад +3

      @@RAFatturi I agree, my mom only left me with 7k only in saving. But, I was young, I used that money to paid for college, lead some to my family member who promised to give me back the money. They, never did. So, I work hard to get my degrees by working and going to school. I'm almost done with my Bachelor degree also going to be debt free as well. Yes, you can do anything.

    • @thecatnextdoor12
      @thecatnextdoor12 4 года назад +1

      25 is very young but make a plan now. Try to contact Dave, he’ll connect you with someone who can help further. It’s incredibly important to have someone who has more years of wisdom and can lead you in the correct direction. It would take you a lot of time to learn on your own and then you would be wishing, you knew/done things earlier.

  • @youKnowWho3311
    @youKnowWho3311 4 года назад +11

    My brother is in my rental. It works out. I charge him significantly less than market...... But I agree with this advice. I don't like having to talk rent with him, even though he always pays on time.

    • @XFizzlepop-Berrytwist
      @XFizzlepop-Berrytwist 4 года назад +3

      I think it just depends, if you have honest siblings, and your relationship is good, it works well.

    • @thecatnextdoor12
      @thecatnextdoor12 4 года назад +3

      Kay My dentist had a brother who was her best friend too, for 40 years, then asked her to co-sign on a high amount loan for him, took the money and disappeared abroad. Seemed honest and trustworthy for all those 40 years. It’s so sad, you really never know.

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад

      Just wondering if you are not renting it for fair market value, aren’t you worried about an audit?

  • @littiliom
    @littiliom 4 года назад +4

    US is so weird, lol. My parents managed to give me $400.000 worth house while making less than $30,000 in year. I do not have to pay them back btw. Wish you luck.

  • @1.5Koreans0.5American
    @1.5Koreans0.5American 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @PhelpsLife
    @PhelpsLife 4 года назад +1

    I was in a very similar situation. Litterally owened a duplex with my brother. And he loved on the other side. Me and him were polar opposites and eventually butted heads too much. I wanted to make something happen with the place and make it an investment property. But eventually we sold it. And got a decent amount for it. Used a chunk for a down payment in a new home and finally got out of the situation.

  • @lizcar2720
    @lizcar2720 Месяц назад

    Strong contracts are needed amongst family and I didn’t have one. I sold my half of a duplex to my sister and we haven’t talked in close to a year because of resentment. The negotiations were a mess.

  • @pickles432noname6
    @pickles432noname6 4 года назад +1

    My husband owned a 4-plex with his brother. The brother held the checkbook, my husband did all the repairs. Bad deal. The brother died, and now my husband is partners with the wife. Now SHE holds the checkbook, and my husband does the repairs. Even worse deal.

  • @bobbyb7672
    @bobbyb7672 4 года назад +1

    Never mix family, friends, and business....

  • @MONi_LALA
    @MONi_LALA 4 года назад

    I live with my brother too. My parents own the house and they are paying for the house until we want to find other places to move to. We knew that this is a gift for someone in college and just started careers. It save a lot of money. But we knew this is not the house we want to live in. We talked to my parents and my brother and we all agreed that it is best to sell it in the future. If you have financial ties with your family members talk about it or make an agreement, in words or letters.

  • @MiraMira0ntheWall
    @MiraMira0ntheWall 4 года назад +4

    I would save and buy my own house. Put renters on my side of the house.That's not really a gift. It's a nice gesture but you don't own that house. The parents do.

  • @elizabethheiland5632
    @elizabethheiland5632 Год назад

    My mom wanted me and my brother on her mortgage for if she passes away. But my brother told me already when that happens he refuses to ever sell the house. My mom has said the same thing, that she wants her house to be there of anyone wants a place to stay, like for helping family in need. My brother lives with my mom currently. I told them to just take my name off of it and I don't want the house. Shame to be letting go my share of something worth so much but can't see this not getting messy later

  • @markhasenour12
    @markhasenour12 4 года назад +8

    Sounds like your parents really wanted both of you out of their house 😂

  • @sydneyriley9800
    @sydneyriley9800 4 года назад +3

    A gift you have to pay back with interest? I'm not sure they know the definition of a gift 🤣

  • @plgardner
    @plgardner 4 года назад +1

    Rent your side to pay the mortgage, buy new house, maintain 50% equity in the duplex until Brother is ready to sell.

  • @americanmade36merica99
    @americanmade36merica99 4 года назад

    Here brother is listening in, thinking how am I going to get my sister out of this deal.

  • @lemonpie1425
    @lemonpie1425 2 года назад

    I am in this situation and honestly, it's stressful. Unfortunately I have student loans to pay off until I get to save up for my own house. I just started my another job and I am expecting to pay off by the end of this year.

  • @alphasia91
    @alphasia91 4 года назад +6

    I’m hoping the people here could offer some insight- I started a side business selling bath products on Etsy in order to help save for grad school and/or paying off debt. It’s been open for a year and I absolutely love it but it is not at all profitable yet. Thankfully I didn’t go into debt to pay for it, I work full-time and used cash for the supplies and fees. But at what point do I give up a donating my cash to a business that isn’t profitable? It’s gaining followers steadily and I have repeat customers but just not enough of them yet. I believe it has potential, it’s just slow going.

    • @angr3841
      @angr3841 4 года назад +3

      well most business start off at a lost, you have to invest before seeing a return. I'm sure if you are consistent, you will see consistent growth, to a point were it can be profitable. its up to you, to continue taking the time effort and money with it. hopefully it goes well for you.

    • @libafried5840
      @libafried5840 4 года назад +3

      You have to make sure that it's a money-making business to begin with. I've also invested in a business without losing money and made some too but after awhile I realized I'm putting in a ridiculous amount of time and have to keep on buying new gear and at the end of the day I make too little money. I'm glad I gave it up and have never looked back.
      So make sure that it's worth the investing and time and labor for the money you are getting.

    • @midlight9758
      @midlight9758 4 года назад

      Try diversifying your selling platform; eBay, Facebook Marketplace, Mercari, Poshmark, etc. Could just be your product is part of an over saturated market too.

  • @Shadowwind4
    @Shadowwind4 4 года назад

    Alex, let them listen to this call, it’ll be the best way to get your parents and brother on board with getting your mess straightened out.

  • @madambillie863
    @madambillie863 4 года назад

    I agree, a hot mess. I am going through a similar situation.

  • @av8tor261
    @av8tor261 4 года назад +2

    Sell the house and go your own ways.

  • @CarnivoreStork
    @CarnivoreStork 4 года назад +5

    First , make sure your parents are not on the title and you & your brother are just renters.

  • @kanecierra8940
    @kanecierra8940 4 года назад

    Right on point Dave! 💯

  • @katherinesmith4716
    @katherinesmith4716 4 года назад +14

    What about renting your half out when you are ready to move?

  • @jelizsc
    @jelizsc 4 года назад +6

    Why don’t you rent your side???

  • @jimroscovius
    @jimroscovius 2 года назад +1

    NEVER own property with family. This is just one of the reasons why.

  • @cmick3720
    @cmick3720 4 года назад

    Agree, business with family could be bad.
    For me is been a blessing, my dad sold me a property that I'm paying him for, the title is on my husband name so we sold it, the people that bought the property are paying us, from the money we pay my dad and a place to live.
    In a few years they will have to do a balloon payment for the rest of the money due and we will pay my dad and make money on it.
    The key is getting everything legally on paper.

  • @darcyfox6674
    @darcyfox6674 4 года назад +6

    Cant your brother buy you out and rent out your side?

  • @ryant2568
    @ryant2568 4 года назад

    This always causes problems when 2 or more parties within the same family have a financial interest in a single property. The most common cause of this is when a parent dies and leaves the property to be split between there children however this is a more delicate situation as you both live there.
    There are only 2 possible outcomes:
    - buy the brother out.
    - force the sale of the property.
    The problem is he may really like where he lives and not want to sell even if the property values have gone up so you need to be ready to have a very unpleasant conversation.

  • @petesspspsps
    @petesspspsps 4 года назад +8

    Consummating the marriage must have been awkward!

    • @KN-cool
      @KN-cool 4 года назад +7

      It's a duplex not a single room barn

    • @banonymous6790
      @banonymous6790 4 года назад

      Bet they didn’t carpool that day lol

    • @jbdragon3295
      @jbdragon3295 4 года назад

      K N
      They share a wall. Hopefully it's not the master bedroom against that wall. Generally they're a mirror image of each other. So a little loud and the brother on the other side could hear you.

  • @DoctorSmartyPants
    @DoctorSmartyPants Год назад

    The parents didn't buy it with trust money. They got a mortgage. The caller does not co-own anything with her brother. There is obviously an agreement, written or not, between the caller and her parents to pay half the mortgage. I would go back to my parents and negotiate a different deal to get out of it.

  • @damienbates
    @damienbates 3 месяца назад

    Her parents bought an investment property and had their children enter into a rent to own arrangement by splitting the mortgage. They just didn’t create a contract to cover the what if situations that occur as their life situations change over time.

  • @roscoeelcocko1863
    @roscoeelcocko1863 4 года назад +4

    No phukn way! I would never do anything involving money with ANY of my corrupt family 😆.

  • @ceciliapreziose3783
    @ceciliapreziose3783 3 года назад

    consider the payment of mortgage as rent, give 30 day notice, move out lesson learned

  • @Ez_Ukulele
    @Ez_Ukulele 4 года назад +5

    Time to form an exit strategy!

  • @grayandgray
    @grayandgray 4 года назад

    Anything can be documented. Contracts exist. If the brother is resistant to any discussion of tracking equity (forget the parents), the worst case is to force a sale in court, but it's possible.

  • @ceciliapreziose3783
    @ceciliapreziose3783 4 года назад +1

    get a lawyer

  • @lanabrooks1554
    @lanabrooks1554 4 года назад

    Think of it as you have been paying rent not a mortgage, and buy your own house. Your parents can rent out your half and get the money from the tenants. You will lose the equity, but it is a small price to pay for your freedom.

  • @mazibukomail
    @mazibukomail 4 года назад +12

    "You can just leave"...people are forgetting the part where she emphasizes that this is hot property in a hot area. Its a lucrative investment.

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад +3

      Thembelani but unless there is a contract in place, it is not her house. It is her parents house. And she can leave anytime. It doesn’t sound like there is a written agreement. If there was a rent to own agreement, it normally would say you can walk away from this without penalty and the house would still be in the parent’s name. Doesn’t sound like she had much invested except for rent.

    • @prospersis4540
      @prospersis4540 4 года назад

      That’s why I don’t agree with Dave telling her to sell it. I would see is my parents would allow me to find a renter and charge more than what I was paying them. She could save the amount in case one day she wants to buy out her brother.

  • @empresslonnie1love391
    @empresslonnie1love391 4 года назад +1

    How is it a gift and you have to pay it back🤔🤔

  • @WemmieFemmie
    @WemmieFemmie 3 месяца назад

    They are not really stuck. They can rent out her side and charge the new renters more than what she was probably paying. I don't see how they would want to sell it. If they are simply paying the mortgage (principle plus interest), they are already ahead because renting from another person would be so much more.

  • @69TDUB
    @69TDUB 4 года назад +5

    How many assets have NO COUNTER PARTY RISK?
    Physical Silver is wealth insurance.

  • @obiflex
    @obiflex 4 года назад +3

    I don't see any problem here. Since the house was bought for cash by your parents and you owe the money to them, you should tell your parents to split the mortgage and you pay up your portion as fast as you can while your brother continues pay his portion at his own pace. What I think is that this lady and her husband want to have their own thing and she's more than willing to throw her brother out. Her brother is not a bum, she's being selfish

  • @inthevault9603
    @inthevault9603 4 года назад +1

    It sounds like it’s her parents house not hers.

  • @E_N_E_N_R_A
    @E_N_E_N_R_A 3 года назад

    I don’t owe money, I just don’t feel home.

  • @chinkyfist6655
    @chinkyfist6655 3 года назад

    My brother and I looked for a house together just to not work out cause his fiance wanted something different. Smh.

  • @emeraldamethyst6222
    @emeraldamethyst6222 4 года назад

    Why didn’t the parents have a lawyer legitimately write an owner finance deal with their kids on the deed and the trust the lien holder? Makes no sense why the kids actually think they have any legal right to this property when they are basically renting and not even doing that with a proper aggreeement

  • @betruetoyourself7162
    @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад

    Why are so many people commenting to rent it out. If the caller doesn’t own it, I don’t see how she could? Maybe some kind of sublease agreement would work, but accounting for the business looks like a nightmare.

  • @twilde3754
    @twilde3754 4 года назад

    If you want to keep it, restructure -- separate the two properties. Why can the duplex be separated into two units? Buy it from your parents. Why not deal directly with parents?

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад

      In some counties, each parcel of land cannot be subdivided. The siblings can be partners in ownership. But in my county they can’t split the property and record it legally. Or if they can, it is expensive because most plots are labeled (residential/commercial/farming). They would need to receive community support and rezoning.

    • @twilde3754
      @twilde3754 4 года назад

      @@betruetoyourself7162 Where I live all duplexes are sold separately (and they are pricey!)

  • @mikederucki
    @mikederucki 4 года назад

    As Dave says: The only ship that doesn’t float - a partnership.

  • @probablynot1368
    @probablynot1368 4 года назад

    She said the house was paid for, in cash, from a Trust the parents had set up for her and her brother. They are both paying the parents back, as if it were a mortgage, with interest! What?! The parents OWN the place, and the kids are paying them back, with interest. It sounds like the parents are using their kids’ monthly ‘rental’ payment to either rebuild the Trust or live off of, AND make a little bit of profit on the side (the so-called ‘mortgage’ interest on a non-existing mortgage). In addition, the parents are reaping the annual depreciation on the rental.
    I wonder if the parents set this up to get the possibly irresponsible son out of their house and into something where his sister can step in and look out for him? The parents may have been well-intentioned, but the fact that they used the kids’ Trust money to do this, AND are profiting (holding the Title to the property, charging ‘rent’ and ‘mortgage interest’ and applying it against a non-existent mortgage, and taking the depreciation) is despicable. She may have been manipulated to be her brother’s keeper. It’s probably time to either move out and start a life with her husband away from her parents, or request the parents to file a Quit Claim Deeds (one for each side of the duplex) and retitle each side to each child, and then let the kids decide what they want to do with the property bought with their Trust money.

  • @The.Man.WithAPlan
    @The.Man.WithAPlan 4 года назад

    If you can't buy him out then find another renter to take over the responsibility or sale it or sale it to him.

  • @todd2456
    @todd2456 4 года назад +2

    Have him buy you out and he rents it out.

  • @catherinep2034
    @catherinep2034 4 года назад

    So are they not old enough to have access to the trust fund? Is that why they are paying it back with interest?
    I hope one of the family members is keeping track on how much has been repaid.

  • @JA-re8gi
    @JA-re8gi 4 года назад +2

    To be fair they're in Louisiana, Alex's brother is actually her husband.

  • @kittyearsheadbands8810
    @kittyearsheadbands8810 4 года назад

    No one owns the home here. It is under a mortgage the bank owns it. When it is paid the deed will be in the parents name. The parents will have to transfer the home to their children. Ugh tough it out when paid rent your side and use that rent and your income to buy a bigger home.

  • @damienbates
    @damienbates 3 месяца назад

    She could just give up her share and turn it over to her parents/brother. Take the lose and learn the lesson. Just consider her past payments as rent and move on with her life! Who knows two years from now she might get divorced and need a place to live.

  • @hastycontemplation
    @hastycontemplation 4 года назад

    If I were the older brother I would be itching to own the duplex as a future investment property. If he lives frugally he may never have to work a regular job.

  • @Trumblocity
    @Trumblocity 3 года назад

    How much of her equity did the parents and the brother take? Why can't she sell her side? Isn't that how a duplex works?

  • @yamamancha
    @yamamancha 4 года назад +1

    Can it even be considered a gift? Do they even get the tax benefits? It sounds like their parents's FP thought up a good asset management scheme and decided their kids were the perfect dupes. Sell it or refinance to buy him out.

    • @betruetoyourself7162
      @betruetoyourself7162 4 года назад

      yamamancha I think the reduced interest is a gift or would count against lifetime gift amount.

    • @yamamancha
      @yamamancha 4 года назад +2

      @@betruetoyourself7162 Was there mention of a reduced interest rate? Their parents bought the house in cash but they require the kids to pay principal + interest. So not only are the kids paying payments + interest to their parents, they also don't qualify for the tax breaks associated with a taking out a home mortgage. I think the only "gift" (or kindness) come from enabling them to purchase a home in a booming area. However, this seems morally sketchy at best.

  • @fhuber7507
    @fhuber7507 4 года назад

    Having a friend/brother/sister living within a mile is OK. Sharing a wall... not so much.

  • @MoD3RnHD
    @MoD3RnHD 4 года назад

    Sell it but where does he go? Now he has to purchase a home on his own. He's single with one income to purchase a home. You're married and have two incomes, it's easy for you.
    You could talk about renting out your half? he stays and you turn your half into a rental property.