Fun fact: In MK11, in one of Spawn and Scorpion's intro, Spawn references his guest appearance in SoulCal. Spawn: You've been to other dimensions? Scorpion: Each has its own injustices. Spawn: Maybe that's why my soul still burns.
Negan is definitely one of the oddest ones. I don't see him holding his own against martial artists, let alone entering a tournament. Bryan Fury is artificially enhanced and strong enough to rip a tank apart with his bare hands, whereas Negan is just a dude with a barbed wire baseball bat.
Tbf, tekken has a lot of questionable characters like punchy animals, breakdancing idol, humanoid robot with chainsaw hands and explosion head, weird squid alien samurai and Gigas.
They got the character spot on, but the Tekken universe isn't where he belongs because there's no gore. As has been said plenty of times over, he should have been a Mortal Kombat 11 character, because he begged for Fatalities and Brutalities with Lucille.
Negan being in Tekken is like the most soul thing ever. It's so weird but his reveal trailer shows so much respect to the source material that it's amazing
I like how much support both parties had on making this possible. Usually companies have to go through so many restrictions just to use another's ip" but for Negan" everyone was on board!
@@EternalStorm796 negans finishers: Knocking your head off with Lucille. Having walkers rip you apart limb From limb. Wonder what his brutality could be?
If I remember correctly, the guest character for the PS2 version of Soul Calibur 2 was originally going to be Cloud from Final Fantasy 7. Square was okay with that at first. But later, Square changed their minds for some reason and said Cloud could no longer be used. So at the 11th hour, Namco scrambled for a replacement character. And that's how Heihachi got into the game.
@Freddy Voorhees There where rumors that Dante was going to be a guest in Soul Calibur 3 which was entirely PS2 exclusive. But they were quickly shot down by the game's developers.
iirc the reason why Square backed out last minute was due to Cloud’s guest character contract still being owned by a ps1 wrestling game called Ehrgeiz, I may be wrong though if so feel free to correct
I feel like leatherface makes a lot of sense, people were outraged due to the gore violence in Texas chainsaw massacre, just like how the blood and violence were controversial in the early days of mortal kombat (still is controversial to some). They are almost parallels and each became legendary in their genre
Honestly for the RoboCop entry I through you would talk about how his source material is also known for being over the top gory like Mortal Kombat. I mean just watch the first movie and you will see plenty of bad guys die in a way that could also be a Fatality, so he fits pretty well in the universe.
Not only that, RoboCop vs Terminator was a thing way way before Alien vs Predator made it into a film series. Having the latter in MKX, forced them to made possible the former.
@AT Productions Well, there has never been a real reason besides the IP allowing it and the fanbase wanting it. MK's first ever guest character was Kratos, just because Sony wanted something exclusive for themselves and given the brutality of the series, it fit well. That was then the standard. Freddy Krueger was added because NRS wanted a guest character for the DLC as they had planned for their DLC to be consisted of: returning character(s), new character(s) and guest character(s). Which has ever since been the rule. They had the chance to add Freedy because it's owned by WB just like NRS. After that the fanbase requested horror icons, mainly Jason as he was Freddy's biggest rival. Jason couldn't make it into MK9, but he could get into MKX. For MKX the guest characters fulfilled the fanbase request of rival characters (aka Freddy vs Jason) in the form of Jason vs Leatherface (they had comics fighting each other) and Alien vs Predator (an entire franchise to that). For MK11 the guest characters were still part of that, requested characters to fit the horror/slasher/action icons once considered for MKX (e.g. Spawn was fan requested, Todd wanted it to be in the game and even did petition to get it added). Because an opportunity was made available with Dark Fate's and Last Blood's tie-ins we got Terminator and Rambo (both characters got to be featured in other games like Terminator in Fortnite or Rambo in CoD and Far Cry). RoboCop was added to complete the "rival" theme (vs Terminator). TLDR. As long as fans want them and the IP is gorey-enough, a deal to get them into MK can be made.
Personally, I always though that Robocop was included in MK11 is due to 80s-90s nostalgia that fits well with the other guest characters sans Kratos, and for the sake of fighting the Terminator similar with Alien vs. Predator and Jason vs. Leatherface. For Spawn in Soul Calibur 2, it was because of how he was a western character for a western console (which wasn't really popular in Japan).
Robocop vs Terminator, Alien vs Predator, and Jason vs Leatherface actually all started out as comic books. Extra note, So far out of the three, only Alien vs Predator got made into movies. For better or worse.
@Chaos-Zakai Yeah I'm aware of those adaptations, I meant like putting one in Mortal Kombat when the other is already in the game to recreate those mashups from the aforementioned adaptations.
In my opinion, the weirdest guest character is Norimaro from the Japanese port of Marvel Super Heroes VS. Street Fighter. He is based in some celeb personality from that point in time. Some of his moves were later given to Phoenix Wright in Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3
That's exactly was I was thinking when I saw this list, where is Norimaro? Though I'd understand him not being listed as it is a Japan exclusive guest. Lars in Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 was also a very weird choice.
- I don't think Rash was a questionable choice. He truly fits the universe of Ulltratech monsters along Sabrewulf, Cinder, Riptor, Glacius, Eyedol, Gargos and the predator-inspired Fulgor. He's also very 90's just like the original KI characters. He could easily exist in the same place where Combo, Jago and Orchid live. Let's not forget that Battletoads' first crossover was with Double Dragon: a dystopian urban action game. Also, if Spinal can fit the game, despite being designed after a movie 30 years older than the original KI...a cool muscly toad with shape shifting abilities, surely does. I think Arbiter and General Ram are way more questionable. - RoboCop was requested, not only after having icons from the 80's in MK games. But mostly because RoboCop's biggest rival was added to the game: Terminator. The same thing that made possible getting Alien and Predator in MKX, was what got RoboCop in MK11. From those DLCs the one that makes the least sense is Rambo. Even if it was to sort of promote Rambo's latest film, having him killed in game just makes no sense and it's so against the very own character. John Rambo is sure a killing machine, but he's also a survivor. Someone you're never meant to see die. While RoboCop has been killed and cut into pieces in his own official media. More so, RoboCop's origin is basically as gruesome as any fatality. - Spawn was the Xbox character because of Namco's Spawn Armaggedon. Not only in Armaggedon the cape was transformed into the axe as in SC2, it's also the game's main weapon and some of the axe animations were borrowed from SC. McFarlane's deal also included the toys, but those toys were released not along SC2 in 2002, but the next year (same as Armaggedon).
Kazuya Mishima: “You went time travelling?” Heihachi Mishima: “What would you like to know?” Ivy: “Who are you?” Ezio Auditore: “Only the most interesting man you’ve ever seen.” Ivy: 😆 “Oh please.”
In a way, 2B being in the 1600s isn't too far fetched since time travel is a thing in the Drakengard/Nier lore (via the character Accord) but given how androids in 2B's time view humans, you'd think she'd be kinda reluctant to draw her sword on them.
FUN FACT about Cole: When modding the PC version, modders found some unused arcade-specific victory lines for Cole. It indicates that he was probably planned to be playable in arcade. ANOTHER FUN FACT: Cole, Heihachi, Kuro and Toro all appeared in PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale.
Robocop actually makes a lot of sense, because Terminator vs Robocop was a comic and video game. So their lore is closely tied. Terminator is also tied closely to Predator/Alien, because of the Alien vs. Predator vs. Terminator comic. They basically are from a “Dark Horse” universe. The only one really missing is Judge Dredd. Who was famously played by Stallone! He would have made more sense than Rambo. I would have loved if they kept Sylvester Stallone, but make him Dredd!
From what I understand, Namco was talking with Squaresoft about getting Cloud from Final Fantasy 7 for Soul Calibur 2. They got pretty far along and last minute square pulled out of the deal and namco had to scramble to put in a guest character for the ps2 version, so they just did an asset dump for Heihachi
From an eventhubs article regarding Cole's inclusion: The development team ended up settling on Cole from Infamous because of his abilities, but Killian offered some insight as to why. “We were committed to try and provide some extra content to Sony and we were excited about looking at the different roster and seeing who was out there, and you know you’ve got all sort of cool characters like Nathan Drake, but you know Nathan Drake has kind of a nice Han Solo kind of everyman and he’s a comical guy but the Japanese team got really excited about Cole and the flexibility of his powers, projectiles, grabs, and all sorts of cool stuff.”
Very nice take from Killian. Makes sense why his gameplay feels good. Still weird that they didn't try find a character that relates back to Capcom or Namco like they did with Toro and Kuro's moveset, but I like that they at least acknowledged it.
Guest Characters are cool additions for Fighting Games. My Favorites: • Heihachi Mishima from Soul Calibur 2 • Spawn from Soul Calibur 2 and Mortal Kombat 11 • Alien and Predator from Mortal Kombat X • Star Wars Characters in Soul Calibur 4 • Ezio Auditore from Soul Calibur 5 Yeah, so awesome Fighting Games are☺️
The mention of Mega Man in Street Fighter X Tekken reminded me of the hilarious reason we got the bad box art design instead of the blue bomber himself. Apparently, Capcom forgot to give the devs the rights to the character, and only gave them rights to use the name. Instead of letting Capcom know, they just rolled with it and decided to use the infamous box art design to poke some fun at the mistake. At least that's what I heard on the matter, and I'm not the most reliable source what with my bad memory scrambling the story.
Fun fact did you know cloud strife from final fantasy 7 was originally going to be the guest character of the ps2 version of soul caliber 2 but it was cancelled at the last minute
Imo they should've done an honorary mention for Solid Snake" from Super Smash Bros" I mean he's so out of place in that series,what with a giant gorilla with a tie and a short,chubby plumber throwing fist at each other. Solid Snake" looks the most normal out of the entire roster lol
Fun Fact: The plan was actually to get Cloud as a Playstation Soul Calibur 2 guest character, however it fell through and Namco just grabbed Heihachi as a quick substitute
You forgot one detail about Leatherface in the MKX. The actor Gunner Hansen had just past away and Ed Boon payed his respects to him, that might of also pushed NRS to include Leatherface in the game.
Guest characters are not meant to be "requested by fans" or "promoting an upcoming film or game". They're simply supposed to get new fans to purchase the fighting game they're appearing in.
I feel like you forgot to mention another reason for Heihachi being in Soul Calibur. The reason being that Soul Calibur and Tekken take place in the same universe; which makes sense for him being a guest.
I think since the Battletoads were already a spoof of TMNT, they decided to make Rash in KI look like the "realistic" designs from the newer TMNT movies. The absurdity of the "hyper realistic" look and the cartoonish shapeshifting together seems like an intentional joke about making the usually cartoonish Turtles look so "realistic" despite them also being entirely animated within the film. Injustice really turned it into a one-two punch by showing how well the classic designs could be integrated into the more serious DC setting, too.
Atreus: "That's my Father." Zeus: "That's my son, the one who killed me." Calliope: "My Father killed me too." Cronos: "And me." Sophitia: "He's a psychopath."
To me the weirdest character in a fighting game will always be Phoenix Wright in UMvC3. They somehow made an attorney a fighter and it wastn even DareDevil
I thought you were gonna mentionned the fact that when MK dev originally include the cyborg ninja in the game, their place holder code name was Ketchup and Mustard and in later revisions (or was it earlier ones), they were refer to as Robocop. The dev were clearly fans and probably wanted him in the game for a very long time. Also, i'd argue he make thematic sense as a guest since they include The Terminator which as several crossover in comic form with Robocop.
Thank you! I always like to sneak in my character creations into the b roll for Soulcalibur. I made so many on my SCV file, so I tend to favor b roll fro that game when I get a chance.
@@CaravanNoobs Panty is one we tried around the time we made Stocking, but we didn't like the dress options, so we stopped that one. However, when I get to making creations again, I'll keep her in mind since I have an idea using her outfit from that episode that took place in a single room on the couch.
I'm just gonna be honest, the only reason why everyone complains about Star Wars being "weird" for Soul Calibur due to its futuristic setting and yet no one bats an eye about NieR in SCVI is because Anakin Skywalker and Yoda aren't as caked up as 2B
I feel like a big part of Leatherface's inclusion was the desire for Ash Williams to be in MK, something that Boon has supported for a long time. Leatherface likely just fit the Slasher aesthetic better.
Leatherface was a weird guest character but once you learn him you'll realize he's one of the best. Well to me idk if anyone else. And his hammer brutality with the announcers reaction is awesome and different than the rest.
Great stuff! Love guest characters in fighting games even when they are questionable... But I'm surprised that Ryu in Power Rangers battle for grid didn't make the list...he would be my nunber 2 ( only loosing to Negan).
I think I internally accepted Ryu because they gave him a Sentai outfit. Maybe I'll put him on the eventual followup for my favorite modern guests since Ryu is weirdly interesting in crossovers.
First time coming across this channel, this is the first time I've felt a list being sooo... endearing, like the personal touch is so prominent from the personal preferences to having your mom on here. Great job man!
You did something charming that I’ve only seen one other time on these discussion videos by adding your mom as a commentator. That was quite wholesome!❤
So far the one I still think about it is Nier on SC, but for me, Skullomania in Gals Fighters was the weirder. I could mention Baiken in SamSho but she kinda fits despite her origin game is more fast pasted and como heavy than a more neutral game. Ps: something I forgot to mention in the last top 10 about yugioh moments made in cards would be what about a video of "Yugioh Moments that should become cards" I think I'll pick the Flotation Ring moment from Duelist Kingdom or the Beyond Infinite shenanigan in the Oricalcos arc, also, the Blue Angel fall from Vrains, which marks the maximum disrespect a character could have.
Fun fact: Midway made a Batman game and used the same MK digitized actor method. Causing Batman to do basically everything from MK1 and MK2 in terms of regular attacks.
For 2B it makes a good amount of sense. Magic and technology kinda go hand in hand. Advanced technology can be seen as magic and magic can be used to make “advanced” technology.
Would a Bloody Roar character in Tekken 8 be questionable? Both series are 3D fighting games with a start on Ps1 (for consoles). My first pick would be Yugo since he is the posterboy but an alternate pick might be Gado or Shina.
Off all the ones who are mentioned on this list, Gon is perhaps my favorite. Just seeing that Land Before Time reject beating up Bruce Lee and a Grizzly bear is just pure gold. 🦖
To me Joker in MK11 was a questionable choice for a guest character that actually defied my expectations. At first I wasn’t happy with him being added into the game but after his gameplay trailer came out and after getting a chance to play as him, he’s actually a welcoming addition to MK11.
Making Raiden the main character instead of Black Lightning makes sense because if they just made him Black Lightning with Raiden’s moveset, people would just be like “this is just Raiden, what is this?”.
Not a Traditional Fighting Game But Afro Thunder In TNA Impact given Midway made the Infamous Wrestling game and Ready 2 Rumble Boxing before going bankrupt in 2008
Correction: they used the wrong spawn. There is literally a "spawn" from every time period. Comic lore states that. There is a mineral spawn and a Bible days spawn and a future spawn so that fits just fine.
If you think this characters are questionable on a fighting game, I have two recommendations for you: "Nitroplus Blasters Heroines Infinity Duel" and "Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax".
The guest character in the PS2 version of Soul Calibur 2 was supposed to be Cloud Strife from FF7, so i wonder if he could have been out of place or not.
Considering almost every character in SC2 had multiple versions of their main weapon, each with their own stats. Cloud's other weapons in FF7 could've been added as well. His joke weapon could've been the spiked baseball bat.
Rash fits much! One of best chameos With non serious non goophy ki violonte Rash, 90's age and somehow fits to ki cosmology:D This just is right in every way +That realistic buffulo looks...HOW THIS ISN'T KI!?XD
I absolutely love Robocop and while I don't MK11 I was pleasantly surprised to see him make a guest appearance in the MK universe and when Robocop came to Fortnite, he was an instant buy for me
I'll definitely be following up with that in the future! I was thinking about doing it back-to-back with this one, but I'll give it a little more time.
I'm huge into Tekken since the 3rd game and I've played Tekken 7 since release regularly. I can say I'm still not used to Negan being in the franchise.
"Why are they in the game?" And speaking of questions and such, how about these ideas? What if Toonami was a Fighting Game? What if Halloween was a Fighting Game?
Everyone talks about how weird it was to see Star Wars characters in Soul Calibur 3, but that game also has a secret guest character Angol Fear who is connected to the anime Sgt. Frog / Keroro Gunso.
1:32 10# 2B from NieR Automata in SoulCalibur 6 4:02 9# Rush from Battletoads in Killer Instinct 2013 7:18 8# RoboCop in Mortal Combat 11 10:14 7# Negan from Walking Dead in Tekken 7 12:48 6# Heihachi Mishima from Tekken and Spawn in SoulCalibur 2 16:32 5# Raiden from Mortal Combat in Injustice 2 19:44 4# Rambo in Mortal Combat 11 22:34 3# Leatherface from Texan Chainsaw Massacre in Mortal Combat X 26:01 2# Noctis from Final Fantasy XV in Tekken 7 28:20 Honorable Mentions# 30:18 1# Cole McGrath from InFamous in Street Fighters X Tekken
Sometimes and sometimes not. That was the og explanation but I think as time went by people thought Spawn with the cape and axe (called agony) looked cool which admittedly it does.
Fun fact: In MK11, in one of Spawn and Scorpion's intro, Spawn references his guest appearance in SoulCal.
Spawn: You've been to other dimensions?
Scorpion: Each has its own injustices.
Spawn: Maybe that's why my soul still burns.
Love how Scorpion mentioned his time in the Injustice" universe,they both agree that multidimensional crossovers are annoying as hell 😂
Injustices lmao.
@@Off-with-a-bang i find you annoying as hell
@@Off-with-a-bang Kratos would agree
Woah. Never thought of that.
Negan is definitely one of the oddest ones. I don't see him holding his own against martial artists, let alone entering a tournament. Bryan Fury is artificially enhanced and strong enough to rip a tank apart with his bare hands, whereas Negan is just a dude with a barbed wire baseball bat.
Tbf, tekken has a lot of questionable characters like punchy animals, breakdancing idol, humanoid robot with chainsaw hands and explosion head, weird squid alien samurai and Gigas.
@@Killer_Raven1875 tekken world in a nutshell.
They got the character spot on, but the Tekken universe isn't where he belongs because there's no gore.
As has been said plenty of times over, he should have been a Mortal Kombat 11 character, because he begged for Fatalities and Brutalities with Lucille.
He would have made a little more sense in soul calibur. Js.
@@OwO377 and I think to myself,
What a wonderfull world
Negan being in Tekken is like the most soul thing ever. It's so weird but his reveal trailer shows so much respect to the source material that it's amazing
I like how much support both parties had on making this possible. Usually companies have to go through so many restrictions just to use another's ip" but for Negan" everyone was on board!
Picture him being in mk 11?
His finisher would be knocking your
Head off with Lucille.
Show pov of you dazed.
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 I think he would have fit better in MK tbh.
@@EternalStorm796 picture him knocking your head clean off with Lucille?
or beating your head in till it's chunks.
@@EternalStorm796 negans finishers:
Knocking your head off with Lucille.
Having walkers rip you apart limb
From limb.
Wonder what his brutality could be?
If I remember correctly, the guest character for the PS2 version of Soul Calibur 2 was originally going to be Cloud from Final Fantasy 7.
Square was okay with that at first. But later, Square changed their minds for some reason and said Cloud could no longer be used.
So at the 11th hour, Namco scrambled for a replacement character. And that's how Heihachi got into the game.
@Freddy Voorhees There where rumors that Dante was going to be a guest in Soul Calibur 3 which was entirely PS2 exclusive. But they were quickly shot down by the game's developers.
Yes! Justin Wong and Maximillian Dood mentioned the exact same thing on their podcast about fighting games.
Probably would've shot SC2 sales through the stratosphere if Cloud were in.
They should’ve gotten Square Enix to sign on the dotted line to prevent them from abruptly backing out.
iirc the reason why Square backed out last minute was due to Cloud’s guest character contract still being owned by a ps1 wrestling game called Ehrgeiz, I may be wrong though if so feel free to correct
I feel like leatherface makes a lot of sense, people were outraged due to the gore violence in Texas chainsaw massacre, just like how the blood and violence were controversial in the early days of mortal kombat (still is controversial to some). They are almost parallels and each became legendary in their genre
Exactly
Honestly for the RoboCop entry I through you would talk about how his source material is also known for being over the top gory like Mortal Kombat.
I mean just watch the first movie and you will see plenty of bad guys die in a way that could also be a Fatality, so he fits pretty well in the universe.
Thank you for that. I was going to go off on this guy for that but now I feel like I don't have too.
Not only that, RoboCop vs Terminator was a thing way way before Alien vs Predator made it into a film series.
Having the latter in MKX, forced them to made possible the former.
“He shoots rapists……in the dick!”
I also thought he would talk how he is modelled and played by Peter Weller the og RoboCop
@AT Productions
Well, there has never been a real reason besides the IP allowing it and the fanbase wanting it.
MK's first ever guest character was Kratos, just because Sony wanted something exclusive for themselves and given the brutality of the series, it fit well. That was then the standard.
Freddy Krueger was added because NRS wanted a guest character for the DLC as they had planned for their DLC to be consisted of: returning character(s), new character(s) and guest character(s). Which has ever since been the rule.
They had the chance to add Freedy because it's owned by WB just like NRS. After that the fanbase requested horror icons, mainly Jason as he was Freddy's biggest rival. Jason couldn't make it into MK9, but he could get into MKX.
For MKX the guest characters fulfilled the fanbase request of rival characters (aka Freddy vs Jason) in the form of Jason vs Leatherface (they had comics fighting each other) and Alien vs Predator (an entire franchise to that).
For MK11 the guest characters were still part of that, requested characters to fit the horror/slasher/action icons once considered for MKX (e.g. Spawn was fan requested, Todd wanted it to be in the game and even did petition to get it added). Because an opportunity was made available with Dark Fate's and Last Blood's tie-ins we got Terminator and Rambo (both characters got to be featured in other games like Terminator in Fortnite or Rambo in CoD and Far Cry). RoboCop was added to complete the "rival" theme (vs Terminator).
TLDR. As long as fans want them and the IP is gorey-enough, a deal to get them into MK can be made.
Personally, I always though that Robocop was included in MK11 is due to 80s-90s nostalgia that fits well with the other guest characters sans Kratos, and for the sake of fighting the Terminator similar with Alien vs. Predator and Jason vs. Leatherface. For Spawn in Soul Calibur 2, it was because of how he was a western character for a western console (which wasn't really popular in Japan).
Robocop vs Terminator, Alien vs Predator, and Jason vs Leatherface actually all started out as comic books.
Extra note, So far out of the three, only Alien vs Predator got made into movies. For better or worse.
@Chaos-Zakai Yeah I'm aware of those adaptations, I meant like putting one in Mortal Kombat when the other is already in the game to recreate those mashups from the aforementioned adaptations.
@@Chaos-Zakai64 As well as a few video games for AvP
And Robocop vs. Terminator had a Video game on SEGA Genesis
In my opinion, the weirdest guest character is Norimaro from the Japanese port of Marvel Super Heroes VS. Street Fighter. He is based in some celeb personality from that point in time. Some of his moves were later given to Phoenix Wright in Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3
That's exactly was I was thinking when I saw this list, where is Norimaro? Though I'd understand him not being listed as it is a Japan exclusive guest. Lars in Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 was also a very weird choice.
@@athena9029 fun fact: Lars' guest costume was in Tekken 6 as his 3rd costume
0:00 Intro
1:32 Soul Caliber 6
4:01 Killer Instinct
7:18 Mortal Kombat 11
10:13 Tekken 7
12:48 Soul Caliber 2
16:31 Injustice 2
19:43 Mortal Kombat 11 (Again)
22:34 Mortal Kombat X (Or Mortal Kombat XL)
26:00 Tekken 7 (Again)
28:20 Honorable Mentions
30:08 Street Fighter X Tekken
35:24 Outro
- I don't think Rash was a questionable choice. He truly fits the universe of Ulltratech monsters along Sabrewulf, Cinder, Riptor, Glacius, Eyedol, Gargos and the predator-inspired Fulgor.
He's also very 90's just like the original KI characters. He could easily exist in the same place where Combo, Jago and Orchid live. Let's not forget that Battletoads' first crossover was with Double Dragon: a dystopian urban action game.
Also, if Spinal can fit the game, despite being designed after a movie 30 years older than the original KI...a cool muscly toad with shape shifting abilities, surely does.
I think Arbiter and General Ram are way more questionable.
- RoboCop was requested, not only after having icons from the 80's in MK games. But mostly because RoboCop's biggest rival was added to the game: Terminator.
The same thing that made possible getting Alien and Predator in MKX, was what got RoboCop in MK11.
From those DLCs the one that makes the least sense is Rambo. Even if it was to sort of promote Rambo's latest film, having him killed in game just makes no sense and it's so against the very own character. John Rambo is sure a killing machine, but he's also a survivor. Someone you're never meant to see die. While RoboCop has been killed and cut into pieces in his own official media. More so, RoboCop's origin is basically as gruesome as any fatality.
- Spawn was the Xbox character because of Namco's Spawn Armaggedon. Not only in Armaggedon the cape was transformed into the axe as in SC2, it's also the game's main weapon and some of the axe animations were borrowed from SC. McFarlane's deal also included the toys, but those toys were released not along SC2 in 2002, but the next year (same as Armaggedon).
Rambo died in the original novel the first film is based on.
All i heard was "cant believe this goofy or fun character is in the game but that doesn't matter because it still fits" over and over
13:25 - I don't think Nintendo is shy about lending their IPs, they probably just had enough money to lend it.
Kazuya Mishima: “You went time travelling?”
Heihachi Mishima: “What would you like to know?”
Ivy: “Who are you?”
Ezio Auditore: “Only the most interesting man you’ve ever seen.”
Ivy: 😆 “Oh please.”
In a way, 2B being in the 1600s isn't too far fetched since time travel is a thing in the Drakengard/Nier lore (via the character Accord) but given how androids in 2B's time view humans, you'd think she'd be kinda reluctant to draw her sword on them.
FUN FACT about Cole: When modding the PC version, modders found some unused arcade-specific victory lines for Cole. It indicates that he was probably planned to be playable in arcade.
ANOTHER FUN FACT: Cole, Heihachi, Kuro and Toro all appeared in PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale.
Thats freakin awesome. Id like to see those unused assets.
I love that almost every Mortal Kombat guest is just Boon adding in his favorite classic movie characters
If only Cole had an arcade mode story that had two endings, good and bad, reflecting the original game's mechanics.
Fun fact: Cole actually does have Story mode text despite not being useable in that mode.
Robocop actually makes a lot of sense, because Terminator vs Robocop was a comic and video game. So their lore is closely tied. Terminator is also tied closely to Predator/Alien, because of the Alien vs. Predator vs. Terminator comic. They basically are from a “Dark Horse” universe. The only one really missing is Judge Dredd. Who was famously played by Stallone! He would have made more sense than Rambo. I would have loved if they kept Sylvester Stallone, but make him Dredd!
From what I understand, Namco was talking with Squaresoft about getting Cloud from Final Fantasy 7 for Soul Calibur 2. They got pretty far along and last minute square pulled out of the deal and namco had to scramble to put in a guest character for the ps2 version, so they just did an asset dump for Heihachi
From an eventhubs article regarding Cole's inclusion:
The development team ended up settling on Cole from Infamous because of his abilities, but Killian offered some insight as to why.
“We were committed to try and provide some extra content to Sony and we were excited about looking at the different roster and seeing who was out there, and you know you’ve got all sort of cool characters like Nathan Drake, but you know Nathan Drake has kind of a nice Han Solo kind of everyman and he’s a comical guy but the Japanese team got really excited about Cole and the flexibility of his powers, projectiles, grabs, and all sorts of cool stuff.”
Very nice take from Killian. Makes sense why his gameplay feels good. Still weird that they didn't try find a character that relates back to Capcom or Namco like they did with Toro and Kuro's moveset, but I like that they at least acknowledged it.
Guest Characters are cool additions for Fighting Games.
My Favorites:
• Heihachi Mishima from Soul Calibur 2
• Spawn from Soul Calibur 2 and Mortal Kombat 11
• Alien and Predator from Mortal Kombat X
• Star Wars Characters in Soul Calibur 4
• Ezio Auditore from Soul Calibur 5
Yeah, so awesome Fighting Games are☺️
Wait I thought Ezio was in Soul Calibur 5
@@TheAwsomeDemyx he was, soul calibur 4 was darth vaedr, yoda and starkiller.
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I retyped it now. Ezio is not from Soul Calibur 4, but from Soul Calibur 5. Sorry
My is joker from mk11
Jason from mk10
Akuma from tekken
Ezio carried Soul Calibur 5 so hard
Robocop isn't questionable. He fits the MK3 cyborg aesthetic well and doesn't even stand out as odd lore wise. Earthrealm has humanoid cyborgs
He's odd because he's slow and lumbering; he doesn't go around beating up the villains like a standard action hero
But man, they really like to point out that he's not from the MK world and that's he's after Kano.
What a comfy video, barely felt the absence of more guests!
It’s strongly implied the raiden in injustice 2 is an elder god raiden which is why his outfit looks much more elegant than any other outfit he has.
I remember that when Soul Calibur 6 was announced A LOOOOOOOOOT of people wanted to see 2B in the game as DLC
The mention of Mega Man in Street Fighter X Tekken reminded me of the hilarious reason we got the bad box art design instead of the blue bomber himself. Apparently, Capcom forgot to give the devs the rights to the character, and only gave them rights to use the name. Instead of letting Capcom know, they just rolled with it and decided to use the infamous box art design to poke some fun at the mistake. At least that's what I heard on the matter, and I'm not the most reliable source what with my bad memory scrambling the story.
I heard that the person they told to put him in didn't play the game, and based it solely on the box art hahaha
False, it was a joke the devs did with Keiji Inafune before the fallout with Capcom happened.
Unknown characters in fighting games can be interesting
Another solid list MrTopTenlist! I noticed that Capcom and Netherrealm fighting games have a knack for having “out there” guests. XD
Fun fact did you know cloud strife from final fantasy 7 was originally going to be the guest character of the ps2 version of soul caliber 2 but it was cancelled at the last minute
Thanks for the 2B segment
2b is powered by magic though. It just buried really really REALLY deep in the lore.... Of Drakengard
Imo they should've done an honorary mention for Solid Snake" from Super Smash Bros" I mean he's so out of place in that series,what with a giant gorilla with a tie and a short,chubby plumber throwing fist at each other. Solid Snake" looks the most normal out of the entire roster lol
Fun Fact: The plan was actually to get Cloud as a Playstation Soul Calibur 2 guest character, however it fell through and Namco just grabbed Heihachi as a quick substitute
You forgot one detail about Leatherface in the MKX. The actor Gunner Hansen had just past away and Ed Boon payed his respects to him, that might of also pushed NRS to include Leatherface in the game.
Guest characters are not meant to be "requested by fans" or "promoting an upcoming film or game". They're simply supposed to get new fans to purchase the fighting game they're appearing in.
I feel like you forgot to mention another reason for Heihachi being in Soul Calibur. The reason being that Soul Calibur and Tekken take place in the same universe; which makes sense for him being a guest.
Glad to have contributed!
I think since the Battletoads were already a spoof of TMNT, they decided to make Rash in KI look like the "realistic" designs from the newer TMNT movies. The absurdity of the "hyper realistic" look and the cartoonish shapeshifting together seems like an intentional joke about making the usually cartoonish Turtles look so "realistic" despite them also being entirely animated within the film. Injustice really turned it into a one-two punch by showing how well the classic designs could be integrated into the more serious DC setting, too.
Atreus: "That's my Father."
Zeus: "That's my son, the one who killed me."
Calliope: "My Father killed me too."
Cronos: "And me."
Sophitia: "He's a psychopath."
Ugh, I love this
That actually reminds me that Kratos was also a guest in Soul Calibur Broken Destiny for PSP.
Tbf Zeus and Cronos wanted smoke and got smoke
Cronos insulted Kratos for killing his 'kin' when he tried to do that same thing
To me the weirdest character in a fighting game will always be Phoenix Wright in UMvC3.
They somehow made an attorney a fighter and it wastn even DareDevil
Yeah I always thought it was so weird as a kid lmao he was fun to play tho
I thought you were gonna mentionned the fact that when MK dev originally include the cyborg ninja in the game, their place holder code name was Ketchup and Mustard and in later revisions (or was it earlier ones), they were refer to as Robocop. The dev were clearly fans and probably wanted him in the game for a very long time. Also, i'd argue he make thematic sense as a guest since they include The Terminator which as several crossover in comic form with Robocop.
Thanks for putting your mom on the video and telling me the backstory of Negan's bat. She's just got you a new subscriber.
Thank you!
YAY!!! Surprise TopTenMom appearance!!
TopTenMom is BestMom
I see your Stocking custom character during your Pepsi Man gag. You have my undying respect.
Thank you! I always like to sneak in my character creations into the b roll for Soulcalibur. I made so many on my SCV file, so I tend to favor b roll fro that game when I get a chance.
@@MrTopTenList you wouldn’t have made Panty as well right? I’d look out for her if you did and then snuck her into another video.
@@CaravanNoobs Panty is one we tried around the time we made Stocking, but we didn't like the dress options, so we stopped that one. However, when I get to making creations again, I'll keep her in mind since I have an idea using her outfit from that episode that took place in a single room on the couch.
Stealth Mom appearance!
I'm just gonna be honest, the only reason why everyone complains about Star Wars being "weird" for Soul Calibur due to its futuristic setting and yet no one bats an eye about NieR in SCVI is because Anakin Skywalker and Yoda aren't as caked up as 2B
I mean its 2B lol everyone loves her assets
@@sammyramirez6869 Because "Waifu" reasons.
I feel like a big part of Leatherface's inclusion was the desire for Ash Williams to be in MK, something that Boon has supported for a long time. Leatherface likely just fit the Slasher aesthetic better.
Leatherface was a weird guest character but once you learn him you'll realize he's one of the best. Well to me idk if anyone else. And his hammer brutality with the announcers reaction is awesome and different than the rest.
I'd also like to ad that androids in the Neir universe were shown to be capable of time travel in Drakengard 3.
Great stuff! Love guest characters in fighting games even when they are questionable...
But I'm surprised that Ryu in Power Rangers battle for grid didn't make the list...he would be my nunber 2 ( only loosing to Negan).
I think I internally accepted Ryu because they gave him a Sentai outfit. Maybe I'll put him on the eventual followup for my favorite modern guests since Ryu is weirdly interesting in crossovers.
First time coming across this channel, this is the first time I've felt a list being sooo... endearing, like the personal touch is so prominent from the personal preferences to having your mom on here. Great job man!
Thank you! Much appreciated!
You did something charming that I’ve only seen one other time on these discussion videos by adding your mom as a commentator. That was quite wholesome!❤
So far the one I still think about it is Nier on SC, but for me, Skullomania in Gals Fighters was the weirder.
I could mention Baiken in SamSho but she kinda fits despite her origin game is more fast pasted and como heavy than a more neutral game.
Ps: something I forgot to mention in the last top 10 about yugioh moments made in cards would be what about a video of "Yugioh Moments that should become cards" I think I'll pick the Flotation Ring moment from Duelist Kingdom or the Beyond Infinite shenanigan in the Oricalcos arc, also, the Blue Angel fall from Vrains, which marks the maximum disrespect a character could have.
24:00 you made me want Denji in MK12, that'd be incredible
Fun fact: Midway made a Batman game and used the same MK digitized actor method. Causing Batman to do basically everything from MK1 and MK2 in terms of regular attacks.
For 2B it makes a good amount of sense. Magic and technology kinda go hand in hand. Advanced technology can be seen as magic and magic can be used to make “advanced” technology.
I'd love to see a top 10 playable Quadruped characters in fighting games list.
That might be a hard one. Most of the list might come from Thems Fighting Herds which is 100% four-legged animal characters.
Amateratsu from Marvel vs Capcom 3 would be my favorite.
lol @11:35 Thanks for the recap and trivia Mrs TTL!
Mrtopten: if you could, I would like to see top ten characters who fight with their hair.
I've actually covered that in 3 videos. Here's the most recent edition of Hair Manipulators: ruclips.net/video/TnldVfOt1VU/видео.html
Would a Bloody Roar character in Tekken 8 be questionable? Both series are 3D fighting games with a start on Ps1 (for consoles). My first pick would be Yugo since he is the posterboy but an alternate pick might be Gado or Shina.
Off all the ones who are mentioned on this list, Gon is perhaps my favorite. Just seeing that Land Before Time reject beating up Bruce Lee and a Grizzly bear is just pure gold. 🦖
Cole accidentally being the fighting game rep for the ps3 console.
Holy shit I watched that originally video back in 2016, cool to find your Chanel again after all these years
I always thought that Negan would have fit in with Mortal Kombat rather than Tekken
To me Joker in MK11 was a questionable choice for a guest character that actually defied my expectations. At first I wasn’t happy with him being added into the game but after his gameplay trailer came out and after getting a chance to play as him, he’s actually a welcoming addition to MK11.
If you think these are weird, just you wait for ClayFighter ReSculpted and RED
Mom does NOT care about spoilers
Making Raiden the main character instead of Black Lightning makes sense because if they just made him Black Lightning with Raiden’s moveset, people would just be like “this is just Raiden, what is this?”.
Not a Traditional Fighting Game But Afro Thunder In TNA Impact given Midway made the Infamous Wrestling game and Ready 2 Rumble Boxing before going bankrupt in 2008
Yoda, Darth Vader, and The Apprentice in Soul Calibur IV was the stupidest decision ever
30:18 OH sh$# that's my boy at number 1. You can even say he's the most inFAMOUS guest on this list.......I'll leave
If a new KI happens . It needs many new characters
Just found your channel by random and subscribe love your voice love the content keep up the good work
Glad you liked it! We have a good backlog of videos, so enjoy!
Correction: they used the wrong spawn. There is literally a "spawn" from every time period. Comic lore states that. There is a mineral spawn and a Bible days spawn and a future spawn so that fits just fine.
If Tekken 8 adds Eleven, All Might and
The Samurai Pizza Cats as DLC, Imma soak my undies!!!
If you think this characters are questionable on a fighting game, I have two recommendations for you: "Nitroplus Blasters Heroines Infinity Duel" and "Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax".
Negan segment was fire
The guest character in the PS2 version of Soul Calibur 2 was supposed to be Cloud Strife from FF7, so i wonder if he could have been out of place or not.
A superhuman with a giant sword in Soul Calibur?
Sounds like he fits in perfectly fine
Considering almost every character in SC2 had multiple versions of their main weapon, each with their own stats. Cloud's other weapons in FF7 could've been added as well. His joke weapon could've been the spiked baseball bat.
RUclipsr Dead Meat also had a hard time connecting the Leatherface timeline, ur not alone on that one
Negan such a random choice but they made it work so well lol
Its intersting to know that in Namcos Soul Calibur: Lost Swords that during some of their events. The had a random sword fighter based on Link.
When you let your mom give a monologue, you gained a subscriber, you're a good dude.
In robocops defense most guest characters in mk11 were action movie characters and ed boon wanted him in the game
Rash fits much!
One of best chameos
With non serious non goophy ki violonte Rash, 90's age and somehow fits to ki cosmology:D
This just is right in every way
+That realistic buffulo looks...HOW THIS ISN'T KI!?XD
Rash is rareware internal so kinda a matter of time, but that’s my weight at some collabs
@@kitelanford one thing for sure...this is one of bests chameos ever:)
The fact that your mom is giving commentary makes this video even better!
Spawn needing Time travel is odd since in spawn there's a medieval spawn
Dude, I am 38, Robocop came out when I was like 5
I absolutely love Robocop and while I don't MK11 I was pleasantly surprised to see him make a guest appearance in the MK universe and when Robocop came to Fortnite, he was an instant buy for me
Not 1, not 2, but 3 Star Wars characters in SC IV will always blow my mind as the most insane crossover I've ever seen
I loved necrid I wished he’d come back with his own moves
I always love guest characters. They’re always so fun to see get revealed.
25:14
I always wondered about this franchise and how many parts there are. Never knew it one of THOSE naming conventions.
We need another list about guest characters that fit way too well, like scarily well.
I'll definitely be following up with that in the future! I was thinking about doing it back-to-back with this one, but I'll give it a little more time.
@@MrTopTenList oh, that's so cool, thanks
I'm huge into Tekken since the 3rd game and I've played Tekken 7 since release regularly. I can say I'm still not used to Negan being in the franchise.
"Why are they in the game?" And speaking of questions and such, how about these ideas?
What if Toonami was a Fighting Game?
What if Halloween was a Fighting Game?
Toonami! Toonami!
"What if Halloween was a Fighting Game?" Terrordrome/Terrordrome 2.
Raiden was in Unreal championship 2 also.
Everyone talks about how weird it was to see Star Wars characters in Soul Calibur 3, but that game also has a secret guest character Angol Fear who is connected to the anime Sgt. Frog / Keroro Gunso.
1:32 10# 2B from NieR Automata in SoulCalibur 6
4:02 9# Rush from Battletoads in Killer Instinct 2013
7:18 8# RoboCop in Mortal Combat 11
10:14 7# Negan from Walking Dead in Tekken 7
12:48 6# Heihachi Mishima from Tekken and Spawn in SoulCalibur 2
16:32 5# Raiden from Mortal Combat in Injustice 2
19:44 4# Rambo in Mortal Combat 11
22:34 3# Leatherface from Texan Chainsaw Massacre in Mortal Combat X
26:01 2# Noctis from Final Fantasy XV in Tekken 7
28:20 Honorable Mentions#
30:18 1# Cole McGrath from InFamous in Street Fighters X Tekken
Best guest cameo was your mom giving her thoughts on Negan
In regards to Spawn, doesn’t his cape turn into his axe? He can’t have the cape if he’s using his axe.
Sometimes and sometimes not. That was the og explanation but I think as time went by people thought Spawn with the cape and axe (called agony) looked cool which admittedly it does.