Rains Fall - Unimaginable Pain with No End In Sight

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  • Опубликовано: 7 апр 2024
  • Rains Fall in red dead redemptin 2 has to have the saddest story out of any character in red dead redemption 2. He did everything in his power to save the wapiti native americans and yet he lost everything. The Wapiti's land, his won Eagle Flies, and maybe even his purpose.
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  • @CynicGTA
    @CynicGTA  Месяц назад +41

    Rains Fall was highly requested and i find his story compelling. With that said RDR2 vids are still coming. I have one of Jack Marston, Edgar Ross, Arthur Morgan just to name a few. And of course still taking suggestions. Anyways, I have a video planned later for a small channel update on content moving forward for those that are interested ❤️

    • @scorpoinlol97
      @scorpoinlol97 Месяц назад +1

      if only the types of peoms and books we have to learn in school could be more well written and interesting like the story of Rdr2. I find it realy boring listening to 30 min break through of Macbeth however wathing one of your videos on Rdr2 is infinatley more interesting. I feel like this story goes way above most books and storys tought in school

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 Месяц назад

      Riiiiiight.

    • @ilovehiphop-
      @ilovehiphop- Месяц назад

      Can you do the Downes family that arthur ruined

  • @easy_eight2810
    @easy_eight2810 Месяц назад +129

    Rains Fall mental endurance to withstand such anguish is honestly one of the greatest ever portrayed. How this character has never attempted suicide is beyond me

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 Месяц назад +19

      Must've been a sense of duty as a chief.

    • @capndikkens5790
      @capndikkens5790 Месяц назад +18

      And his sense of duty as a father. He loved Eagle Flies and was proud of him. Eagle Flies didn't see it though. He thought his father was old, weak, and blind. And he took him for granted. And because of it, he left his father even more broken than he already was.

    • @PShrekky
      @PShrekky Месяц назад +5

      "The earth, the water, they have no pride. They endure, and we must endure."

    • @joekuvorkian
      @joekuvorkian 4 дня назад

      ​@@PShrekkyas someone with PTSD, that shit hit me like a truck

  • @theimperialist2686
    @theimperialist2686 Месяц назад +57

    I find Rains Fall to be one of, if not the most tragic characters in RDR2. As leader of his tribe, he lost and suffered immensely be it his wife, first born, and youngest Eagle Flies who easily to Dutch's words of manipulation to attack the US army while Rains Falls wanted to resolve things peacefully. All that tragedy and sadness comes back full fold, when John meets Rains Fall in the epilogue.

    • @sabagecabage7828
      @sabagecabage7828 Месяц назад

      Well they did move to Canada. Better healthcare system and we love our natives 😂

    • @matthewhubrich1697
      @matthewhubrich1697 Месяц назад

      I really wish they used more of rains fall he was my favorite character behind Arthur and Charles

  • @thecowboy9698
    @thecowboy9698 Месяц назад +33

    The sad thing about Rains Fall's story is that it has sadly been a story that has been repeated over and over throughout human history.

    • @scootersickles6389
      @scootersickles6389 Месяц назад +3

      I love rdr2 because of it, as a native I cried for these characters ❤

  • @COASYKCUAS
    @COASYKCUAS Месяц назад +29

    I hate how Eagle Files couldn’t just understand and listen to Rains Fall.

    • @lewisjohnston7077
      @lewisjohnston7077 Месяц назад +3

      As Eagle Files wanted war and Rains Fall wanted peace.

  • @Dbonesburneraccount
    @Dbonesburneraccount Месяц назад +47

    1:57 NOPE. Unfortunately the U.S government is very petty towards Native Americans&in RD2 Dutch essentially sped up the process of the natives being removed by the government.

    • @kazikhalid6197
      @kazikhalid6197 Месяц назад +7

      I have a feeling EF would’ve did what he did with or without Dutch .
      What makes me more sad is , they didn’t even find any oil on Wapiti .

  • @cleanweasel3805
    @cleanweasel3805 Месяц назад +18

    The Wapiti story is so tragic, but the characters it builds onto are some of my favorites. I wonder what happened to those who went to Canada

    • @pogs9765
      @pogs9765 Месяц назад

      Pretty much the same thing that happened in the US no different, forced onto reservations, children taken away by white men, and murdered

  • @enigma7310
    @enigma7310 Месяц назад +9

    *Rains Fall character was supposed to show the message that nobody listens to peace....*

  • @uzichu
    @uzichu Месяц назад +30

    Rains Fall and the Native Americans deserved better. Watching them lose everything because of the manipulation of Dutch alongside the US Army was truly one of the most heartbreaking moments in RDR2.

    • @scootersickles6389
      @scootersickles6389 Месяц назад +2

      As a native I will always love rdr2 because of the acknowledgment of indigenous people, lots of tears playing this game

  • @lewisjohnston7077
    @lewisjohnston7077 Месяц назад +7

    Everyone loved and respected Rains Fall and felt sorry and sad for him with the death of his son Eagle Flies.

  • @connorwillden5862
    @connorwillden5862 Месяц назад +7

    Rains fall was always one of my favorite characters in rdr2 I remember crying when I heard what the US army did to his people and I still mad about what happen to eagle flies hope he found his peace in canada

  • @MrKylelee18
    @MrKylelee18 Месяц назад +1

    It hurts when you meet up with him at the train station as John. All of that pain was in the past for him and he just kept moving to look after his people. You can tell he’s worn out from all of the pain.

  • @hamzamuhammadkhan
    @hamzamuhammadkhan Месяц назад +3

    This man has stone will.... I would have just broken down

  • @johnaustin209
    @johnaustin209 Месяц назад +7

    I'm just reading the book "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee". There are parts which clearly have been used in Rains Falls and Wapitis story. Truly tragic.

  • @ashcan6
    @ashcan6 Месяц назад +4

    "They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they only kept but one. They promised to take our land, and they took it."---Chief Red Cloud, Lakota Nation
    While some may call the Native peoples of The Americas "Native Americans", the term "American Indian" is widely preferred and used amongst the actual Nations.
    If you look at Red Dead 2's setting and events as a microcosm of the 1890's- 1900's United States Frontier, the plight of the Wapiti is a condensed version of the atrocities faced by the final "wild" Nations at the hands of Andrew Jackson and his contemporaries during and post "Indian Wars" era.
    The United States made several hundred acknowledged and broken "treaties" with the Lakota, Blackfoot, Apache, Cree, Fox, Nez Pierce, and countless other Nations, many of which have now been 100% eradicated by systematic genocide at the hands of the U.S. Government.
    The events here are similar to the struggle for the Lakota to keep the Black Hills, their sacred Holy Land, pure and unsettled by outsiders. This struggle led to some of the U.S.'s darkest acts involving the American Indian; The Battle of the Little Bighorn, and the later massacre at Wounded Knee.
    If you are interested in delving deeper into how the West was lost, I highly recommend reading Dee Brown's seminal "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", and then perhaps watching the truly breathtaking HBO Films adaptation with the same name.
    Rains Fall is a symbolic combination of the chiefs Red Cloud, Sitting Bull, an several others, while his son is more a symbol of the disenfranchised younger people at the time who spearheaded the "American Indian Movement", and the "Great Ghost Dance", respectively.
    In light of the disgraceful disregard of countless treaties, war crimes, deception, and the blatant Anti-Tribal Religion Blasphemy that is "Mount Rushmore"- which is viewed by the Lakota as vandalism square in the center of the Black hills, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Lakota in 1980. The Nation was offered $1.3 (adjusted $1.8) Billion Dollars in neglect and damages funds.
    To this day, that money sits unclaimed.
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  • @trickyykcir
    @trickyykcir Месяц назад

    Poor Rains Fall, a father who lost his family due to man’s greed and apathy. Glad you made a video on him, been binging your videos!

  • @jtrillz3953
    @jtrillz3953 Месяц назад +2

    Rains Fall was the most wholesome character in the game his life story is so sad

    • @lewisjohnston7077
      @lewisjohnston7077 Месяц назад +1

      It is. It feels like all he known is pain and suffering.

  • @nickbuckley4371
    @nickbuckley4371 День назад

    Do not mistake my strength for weakness
    This is such a powerful line of any literature I ever heard

  • @xMetalhead2000
    @xMetalhead2000 Месяц назад +3

    In the first game I always felt the natives were a missed opportunity and rdr2 corrected that wrong with rainfalls I love that story arc so much every western story needs Indians

  • @iceluvndiva21
    @iceluvndiva21 Месяц назад +8

    Honestly? I don't think Rains Fall had any chance. These people where screwed beyond measure. But I definitely agree with diplomacy first, aggression when appropriate.

  • @iamwhoiam7887
    @iamwhoiam7887 Месяц назад +2

    You... helped this feller, Arthur?

  • @AdamIsInHisBag
    @AdamIsInHisBag Месяц назад +3

    I love Rains Fall bro, thank you cynic for doing this video.

  • @WARPATH_45
    @WARPATH_45 Месяц назад +1

    The fact you took the time to even do this video on Rains Fall gets my respect 💯

  • @irishdc9523
    @irishdc9523 Месяц назад +1

    I find Eagle Flies to be an allegory on how young people, especially young men, who are faced with grievences in their lives (real or otherwise, personally or communally) get seduced and radicalised by a charismatic figure (in this case, Dutch) to carry out acts of violence they think and hope will end up for the better, but is really for the benefit of that leader in one way or another.
    Look at when they tell the camp that the army stole their horses. Charles suggests they go out and get more. The game would allow for that, either buying them from stables or breaking wild ones. Instead, Dutch takes this opportunity to strike back against the army. They succeed, despite the disproportionate retaliation, so it emboldens them.
    The next mission with Eagle Flies is to capture and humiliate some soldiers who, after have been looted, likely are just raw recruits from the other end of the continent, not the ones who have fought the Watipi for years, nevermind Col Favours himself. While it failed, they did kill a significant number of soldiers, despite capture.
    By the start of the raid on the oil field, he's already in too deep with Dutch in his ear. Now after losing his life, his men, and the mission, his tribe is now forced to move to Canada. While no different in their treatment of the Native Canadians than the US was, at least they didn't have the baggage of decades of warfare against them.

  • @TheHQZombie
    @TheHQZombie Месяц назад +1

    Wait until he discovers fire water and casinos

  • @MikaJNofz
    @MikaJNofz Месяц назад

    And then we have Dutch losing a friend and having a bit of pressure on him going totally insane in contrast

  • @ethannot-apastafarian4123
    @ethannot-apastafarian4123 Месяц назад

    6:10 That is one of the greatest philosophical statements I’ve ever heard. In the New Testament, particularly the Gospels, few concepts are championed more than service to others

  • @Remembering1453
    @Remembering1453 Месяц назад +1

    The best character of rd2

  • @johnnytay3612
    @johnnytay3612 Месяц назад +6

    This is why rdr3 needs to be about Native Americans

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 Месяц назад

      No it doesn't. It doesn't need to be at all.

  • @scottyarthuraustralia7567
    @scottyarthuraustralia7567 Месяц назад +1

    And unfortunately this was the nice version of the injustice suffered by the Native American tribes and all their people by not only the U.S.A. military and the Mexican military and the people of these countries of the time.

  • @SimpleManJames
    @SimpleManJames Месяц назад

    I'd love actually see a red dead following this story 😢 I think it would be fantastic

  • @Patrick-wl6pw
    @Patrick-wl6pw Месяц назад +1

    I feel bad him pain lost son

  • @StefanWinchester
    @StefanWinchester Месяц назад +1

    Rains fall is the oposite of dutch

  • @phantomplayvr
    @phantomplayvr Месяц назад +2

    I feel like none talks about the rain falls missions their one of my favorites

  • @wendyray6654
    @wendyray6654 Месяц назад

    Do the Grays and Braithwaites

  • @LUNARBL00M
    @LUNARBL00M Месяц назад +5

    this is kind of unrelated, but in the mission "A Rage Unleashed", when Dutch was driving the boat really fast, I think he was trying to kill Arthur. This may be a stretch, but hear me out. When Arthur called Dutch out on how fast he was going, Dutch said, "I'm trying!" when he clearly wasn't. Since Arthur was on the front of the boat, Dutch saw his opportunity to send Arthur flying into the rocks.

    • @DoubleO725
      @DoubleO725 Месяц назад +2

      Could be possible

    • @nonbasicz
      @nonbasicz Месяц назад +5

      No he saves Arthur in missions after that at points he could easily leave him to die

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 Месяц назад +1

      Far fetched...

    • @LUNARBL00M
      @LUNARBL00M Месяц назад +2

      @johnaustin209 not really. Arthur was doubting him in this mission and in a chance campfire interaction, when Uncle is doubting Dutch, Dutch tells uncle, "I would like to kill you right now". I'm not confirming anything but it could be possible.

    • @loganwebb1171
      @loganwebb1171 Месяц назад

      @@LUNARBL00MI disagree. This chance encounter you’re speaking of is in Chapter 2 and has nothing to do with Arthur at all. I think during this mission Dutch was definitely going as fast as he could since in most missions in Chapter 6, Dutch did try to save Arthur whenever he was in trouble until he left him behind in My Last Boy.

  • @klankids
    @klankids Месяц назад

    The thumbnails like “No(Body would) listen”

  • @nickbuckley4371
    @nickbuckley4371 День назад

    Do not mistake my strength for weakness
    This is such a powerful line of any literature I ever heard