This was the first of your videos that I have watched and I was very positively struck on the emphasis on angle of attack flying and the apparently clear AoA instrumentation. Thanks for sharing.
I swear it seems like everyone ho commented didn't watch the video, she definitely said that the water isn't really that rough in the video multiple times
I can imagine old WW2 PBY pilots watching this and thinking, "you call that rough water?" i remember when i was blogging about these years before they finally came to market at more than double the original price estimate - pretty cool they have a station right in tampa bay too
I’d agree, the water conditions in the video aren’t overly rough. Rough enough to get the idea the procedures are different than a glassy water landing at least.
Ah yes, a Catalina, which weighs literally 20x more than an Icon. I'm sure a Navy destroyer wouldn't call it rough waters either, but the context of the aircraft matters.
Yea I’d love to own one someday but the price is so high for the performance and limitations. If it was as much as they said it was going to be then I’d consider it a lot more but until I can make $1mil a year idk if it’s worth it.
I like this. Larger seaplanes aren't as susceptible to atmospheric and water surface conditions like smaller aircfaft like the iCon A5. Small plane, means everything is exaggerated. Small waves are bigger, power band will feel smaller, wind direction and speed will feel intensified. Good well built light plane, good application and general common sense sets the tempo for extremely good flying. Dually, it is refreshing to see instructors talking through and applying the principles and flight characteristics applicable to their airframe.
Thanks all for watching. If you'd like to view the first video in our series of safety videos, view our Glassy Water Landing Tips here: ruclips.net/video/sfNXiEVuq1A/видео.html
We're based in Tampa -- so are all over Florida on a regular basis. Check out the link above if you'd like to receive event notifications from us (assuming you haven't already). Thanks Jason.
I'm surprised she didn't tell us, what your direction to the waves you should land, in large swells. Perpendicular or parallel. Those waves were rather small. What about out on the open ocean?
From their FAQ: What is the highest acceptable wave for operation in water? The pilot operating handbook (POH) limit on wave height for the A5 is 12 inches.
Agus Salim No ducks were hurt in the making of this video lol.... You get pretty good at maneuvering around them and anticipating what they are going to do.
Please don't call this rough ! It's not glassy, but it's really calm. It would be more honest to say the plane only copes with ripples? And fair comment! It's a little, beautiful aeroplane. If it landed in the sea, maybe a mile from shore, the swell can be 3 feet and waves 1.5ft. Not rough just standard on a mild day... Call it a lake amphibious plane?
Ground effect is the compression of air against the ground (in this case, water) which causes the plane to almost glide or float across the surface, nearly at stall speeds. This is similar to gulls and birds that fly along the water or waves of a coastline to build up energy and then launch back into the air, and repeat. Thus allowing the birds to rest and go longer distances.
@@leetjohnson I wonder if because of the water it's more pronounced? I know you have to worry about it a lot with rotor craft, but fixed wing you typically rotate, get positive rate, gear up, flaps up, climb out. It would be strange to see an aircraft pop up into ground effect while going down the runway.
@@BitwiseMobile you are absolutely correct that it affects prop planes far more than jets, due to the reflection of the propeller air over and under the wings, whereas for jets, the waste air is aft the wings. It doesn't lift the plane much, but it is similar to the "pop" off the ground when equilibrium is achieved between gravity, speed and (aeronautical) lift. It is at this point that this ground effect is noticeable and it is subtle, especially for a large commercial jet, but more pronounced in small prop planes.
Try knowing what you're talking about... I know that's probably not something you're used to bothering with. These are sports licensed day flyer planes, intended for the same market as recreational water craft. If you're flying from CONUS to Alaska, well you're as stupid as jwboll.
@@eR3alist , Don’t you think you’re being a bit harsh in the comment section? JWBOLL was only commenting from where they are coming from in their life’s experience. Here is an interesting thought , which president would’ve been more interesting Ron Paul or Donald Trump?
Low power to weight ratio & high centerline pusher thrust makes for a lousy airplane to fly. I have extensive experience flying airplanes of a similar design and they all stink. Nothing better than a standard tractor engine. The Icon should have two Rotax engines in a tractor configuration mounted on the top wing. And use a better wing airfoil. Then it could be a fun & safe airplane to fly.
such a cool plane! MS Flight Simulator 2020 brought me here.
Same! I want one!
Me too but no pc
Same but I feel like 60 is to much
Bertram Zahn not 300k cool
Nice -- thanks for checking out the A5.
Does *rough* mean something different in the US? That's practically a millpond.
Im from the US and deff not, lmao.
Perhaps those seas are rough for the icon. Depends on how much it can actually take.
It's possible the Icon can't handle large seas, based on this. Those are fairly small waves
@@georgezachos7322 these kids thinking 50ft waves and a icon would mix. YEAH OKAYY
@@Deadmau5l perhaps they should have used words other than 'rough' and 'rollers' to describe the conditions of a 10cm wave.
This was the first of your videos that I have watched and I was very positively struck on the emphasis on angle of attack flying and the apparently clear AoA instrumentation. Thanks for sharing.
Everyone stop hyperventilating. She mentions that this water isn't very rough in the video.
Title is a bit of clickbait then lol... still a cool video
I swear it seems like everyone ho commented didn't watch the video, she definitely said that the water isn't really that rough in the video multiple times
DaBeast34 no. The point is saying how to land in rough waters. This just isn’t it
😂😂 thank you
I can imagine old WW2 PBY pilots watching this and thinking, "you call that rough water?"
i remember when i was blogging about these years before they finally came to market at more than double the original price estimate - pretty cool they have a station right in tampa bay too
I’d agree, the water conditions in the video aren’t overly rough. Rough enough to get the idea the procedures are different than a glassy water landing at least.
A PBY is huge and wouldn't have any problem landing in that water condition. The Icon, not so much.
Ah yes, a Catalina, which weighs literally 20x more than an Icon. I'm sure a Navy destroyer wouldn't call it rough waters either, but the context of the aircraft matters.
Yea I’d love to own one someday but the price is so high for the performance and limitations. If it was as much as they said it was going to be then I’d consider it a lot more but until I can make $1mil a year idk if it’s worth it.
I like this. Larger seaplanes aren't as susceptible to atmospheric and water surface conditions like smaller aircfaft like the iCon A5. Small plane, means everything is exaggerated. Small waves are bigger, power band will feel smaller, wind direction and speed will feel intensified. Good well built light plane, good application and general common sense sets the tempo for extremely good flying. Dually, it is refreshing to see instructors talking through and applying the principles and flight characteristics applicable to their airframe.
Thanks all for watching. If you'd like to view the first video in our series of safety videos, view our Glassy Water Landing Tips here: ruclips.net/video/sfNXiEVuq1A/видео.html
Nice detail of using ground effect to get more speed before climing. It's probably just a small pause that adds a lot of safety buffer. Thanks.
Me, a boat person, clicking on this video thinking there are gonna be huge waves.
Damn girl you make everyone wanna give this a try
Can some 9ne 6ft 3 fit in one of these
Is it survive tsunami?
Why am I here? I don’t even own a amphibious icon A5 light-support aircraft
Even I could do that, best plane for dry and wet landings.
The flying car!
do they have a reverse for maneuvering at dock?
If your copilot suddenly shouts “Duck!” what is the correct procedure?
Beautiful landing!
Why these are not commercial available
I flew this plane in MFS. It's a pretty cool plane.
That is an AWESOME boat/plane!
“Rollers”
Search “ships in big waves” for more information
Good explanation
Amazing! When are you coming to Ormond Beach FL? I wanna ride along!
We're based in Tampa -- so are all over Florida on a regular basis. Check out the link above if you'd like to receive event notifications from us (assuming you haven't already). Thanks Jason.
To fly this aircraft u need at leat have a private pilot license right?
can you do it in a river with a considered flow?
Meu sonho ser piloto da aircraft 😍
I'm surprised she didn't tell us, what your direction to the waves you should land, in large swells. Perpendicular or parallel. Those waves were rather small. What about out on the open ocean?
The wind direction is probably more important with waves/swell this small.
Landing on or near swells is a totally different animal and not the same procedures as a traditional rough water landing
BOA TARDE. EXCELENTE. EQUIPAMENTO. (DA MANEIRA COMO DEMOSTROU NESSE VÔO. FOI PERFEITO ) PARABÉNS PELO TRABALHO APRESENTADO
I love this plane . 👌👌👌
How much this aeroplane
"Rough"
For the sea that is pretty much as calm as it usually gets.
Rough in the context of a carbon fiber single prop seaplane lol, not a navy destroyer.
i just got from flying that plane in microsoft flight simulator 2020
Es un avión increíble es hermoso la verdad y muy seguro
Mi sueño es tener uno icon a 5
would be cool to work for Icon as an instructor. What qualifications are required?
Ok
Your best bet is to contact them directly. Low chance of them responding on RUclips months after the video was uploaded.
From their FAQ:
What is the highest acceptable wave for operation in water?
The pilot operating handbook (POH) limit on wave height for the A5 is 12 inches.
Kinda shitty
Nery nicely done.
is it true that those planes are cheap, well not cheap but compared to an average airplane cost pretty low, less than 1 million ?
How much cost of A5,
$350k
Nice vid! try rough water in Northwest Territories Canada on Great Slave Lake... Everybody is a hero in their own mind😆
Did you ever hit a duck?
Agus Salim No ducks were hurt in the making of this video lol.... You get pretty good at maneuvering around them and anticipating what they are going to do.
No!!!!!
Please don't call this rough ! It's not glassy, but it's really calm. It would be more honest to say the plane only copes with ripples? And fair comment! It's a little, beautiful aeroplane. If it landed in the sea, maybe a mile from shore, the swell can be 3 feet and waves 1.5ft. Not rough just standard on a mild day... Call it a lake amphibious plane?
My new toy when I will become a little bit older 😍. That plane and a tesla roadster.
The dream combo.
Awesome video love water operations
Daniel Constantin Prostoiu why wait ! Live the dream of flying on water
Ya if your rich
"You forgot to lower landing gear" - Archer
Super.thanks
I see Flight Simulator 2020 is looking very good with 3080ti card
Such a fun aircraft in MFS2020 but jebus them things real life are brutal
Price
$290k-390k There is another company called SeaRay been selling these types lot longer then Icon and they sell for $120k-170k.
2014 price tag 169k inflation kills it 369k now
Might need to explain to folks what is meant by the term *"ground effect"*
That’s what actual training is for
Ground effect is the compression of air against the ground (in this case, water) which causes the plane to almost glide or float across the surface, nearly at stall speeds. This is similar to gulls and birds that fly along the water or waves of a coastline to build up energy and then launch back into the air, and repeat. Thus allowing the birds to rest and go longer distances.
@@leetjohnson I wonder if because of the water it's more pronounced? I know you have to worry about it a lot with rotor craft, but fixed wing you typically rotate, get positive rate, gear up, flaps up, climb out. It would be strange to see an aircraft pop up into ground effect while going down the runway.
@@BitwiseMobile you are absolutely correct that it affects prop planes far more than jets, due to the reflection of the propeller air over and under the wings, whereas for jets, the waste air is aft the wings. It doesn't lift the plane much, but it is similar to the "pop" off the ground when equilibrium is achieved between gravity, speed and (aeronautical) lift. It is at this point that this ground effect is noticeable and it is subtle, especially for a large commercial jet, but more pronounced in small prop planes.
how is that rough
I want one.
FS2020 brought me here
Things we watch for the love of FS2020 :)
Wait is this a serious video
I want to be a sea plane.
great
"Guaranteed within 20 nautical miles you're gonna find an airport..." Try flying over Canada to Alaska.
Try knowing what you're talking about... I know that's probably not something you're used to bothering with. These are sports licensed day flyer planes, intended for the same market as recreational water craft. If you're flying from CONUS to Alaska, well you're as stupid as jwboll.
@@eR3alist , Don’t you think you’re being a bit harsh in the comment section? JWBOLL was only commenting from where they are coming from in their life’s experience. Here is an interesting thought , which president would’ve been more interesting Ron Paul or Donald Trump?
I don’t see these in really rough water conditions. Ever.
It actually handles rough water really well, if you do the correct procedure and know what you’re doing.
We all simping on the plane
If thta plane could use seawater as fuel it would be a no brainer!
Listen to 1:42 onwards with your eyes closed. Thank me later 😂😂🤣😅🤣
Your not funny
thumbs up
पवन पटैल
sooooo, where is the rough water there??????? hmmmmm
Flight Sim 2020
Low power to weight ratio & high centerline pusher thrust makes for a lousy airplane to fly. I have extensive experience flying airplanes of a similar design and they all stink. Nothing better than a standard tractor engine. The Icon should have two Rotax engines in a tractor configuration mounted on the top wing. And use a better wing airfoil. Then it could be a fun & safe airplane to fly.
Have you ever flown the icon before? I guarantee the planes you are referring that “are similar design” fly nothing like the icon.
Flight Simulator 2020
One of my favorite aircraft to fly in MSFS!
Deathtrap..
MICROSOFT FLIGHT SIMULATOR!
👌🏻👍🏻
.. but this is not rough sea😅
i bet $1000 no one watching has a seaplane
When they cost $350k likely your correct. The Searay is much cheaper at $120k about the same performance
where is the fuckin rough water?
I've had rougher baths than that.
“Rough”
Rough for an icon
Easy 😑
I just farted
Can we just have great content without electronic dubstep and annoying theatrical music?
I wish she has a smoother skin!
This is the best publicity for the Icon A5.
If a blonde woman can fly it, anyone can.
That is NO rough water!
Is this lady pilot a paid influencer, or an actual owner of what she is flying? Inquiring minds wish to know...
ICON chief instructor.
Chief Pilot / Manager of flight ops and training
rough? Really?
lmao you dunno what rough water is
I would not trust a woman flying the aircraft.
Thats cool Kyle. Most likely why you probably have never been touched by a woman other than rosie palm and her 5 sisters
I think i would love to fly an A5 :-)
You can in the new flight simulator