Everything? He could have mentioned in the description which materials he used, don't you think? Instead of describing "hardly known exotic tools like: Speed square for drawing straight lines - 4-foot level for checking high/low spots - Utility knife for cutting underlayment (can also be used to cut vinyl planks) - Mitre saw for cutting planks - Mallet & pull bar for setting the joints - Multi-tool for cutting door trim and other precision cuts He could named the materials used. Are we mind readers? At least, I am not able to read off the screen what's the brand of the dimple mat or the Eva underlayment. Excuse me!
@@sfuchs thanks for helping out with the extra details. Although I don’t think he left that info out on purpose. Sometimes we forget that things that are common to us may not be that common for others. It’s just human imperfection. You could call off the dogs on this one.
@MK-zf6or what's the point of posting this video for DIY Dudes, if you end up needing hiring a contractor?? You make a total sense bro. I only ask for the materials used, as there are multitude of options and I don't want to purchase a wrong ones, as it's a considerable investment comparing to a $7 speed square, or $5 malet, which he described so well.
I’ve done a similar tactic. Highly recommend using the scrap price to tap the joints together. The plastic blocks will damage the tongue and groove. Though I only use the pull block on the edges. Otherwise I just tap the scrap piece directly. Great video!
Exactly what I was looking for as far moisture barrier layers for concrete. Couple of questions please! 1) I would have put the moisture barrier down first, then the underpad on top. You did the opposite - underpad down first. Wouldn't moisture coming up would hit the underpad first then? Why did you do that order? 2) How is the flooring adhering to the under layer? Is it? What keeps it from bowing up? So the planks lock together at the joints? Thank you so much, very helpful video!
Regarding 2) the flooring doesn't adhere to the under layer. The flooring is interlocked via tongue and groove so the entire weight of the floor is what holds it down.
Honestly both layers provide water proof benefit. The dimple board creates an air gap and the foam pad provides a continuous sealed surface/insulation and sound dampening Good luck
Nice straight to the point. What are my option in basement if I have drain in the middle and the floor is not obviously leveled and slops towards drain in center.
In a basement you definitely need an underlayment.. really anywhere for that matter. It provides insulation sound dampening and moisture protection. Good luck!
Great video! Thank you! Question about the moisture and layers underneath the plank flooring - is it likely for mold to develop between the porous concrete and the plastic layers? To prevent mold, is a more absorbent material (other than plastic) necessary to absorb moisture? Thanks for your help!
Hey there. No the idea is you don’t want any thing to absorb and hold moisture the plastic dimple board creates an air gap…. If moisture does accumulate than it can evaporate into the air gap. If it absorbs into something it will stay trapped. Organic material will grow mold. Plastic shouldn’t. Good luck!
Very professional, love the video. Have a question regarding the underlay and vap barrier you put down in preparation. I have Life Proof vinyl flooring I purchased from Home Depot which already has a backing underlay and snaps into place. would this be overkill using your prep method as well as the vinyl floor with the backing or not recommended to do both? Kind regards Cliff
Hey Cliff thanks for the comment, the underlay on the back of your flooring probably is not designed to be a vapour barrier but more likely to be for insulation/sound dampening. If you are flooring on top of concrete I would recommend using an additional vapour barrier with a dimple bottom.
@@DIYDudes I have the same question my situation is a little more complicated. I have cinder blocks for the wall in the basement. They are porous. I have sealed it with hydraulic cement as well as a sealant. But I don't think it is 100% fixed :(. Eventually, I will have to seal it from the outside. So coming to the problem. I was thinking that if I seal the concrete with sealant and then have no undergarment - then the rainwater if it comes over the vinyl floor as there is very little space between floor and vinyl. so that I can wipe that water from the vinyl tiles or vacuum it. The little water between vinyl and cement floor will evaporate faster as there is no undergarment.
Thank you for the great video and info. After reading and talking with flooring companies, I've concluded that a vapor barrier is required underneath the vinyl planks if you have an older home. I'm positive a vapor barrier was not installed when my home was built (1980). Two separate flooring companies mentioned they use 6 mil plastic when installing vinyl planks for customers. Just another alternative (cheaper) to consider. Do you see any reason why regular plastic wouldn't work?
They still don’t put moisture barrier on new homes if on slab. I just purchased new home. They are finally gonna redo the whole floor and install moisture barrier. Due to buckles started to form after few months since moved in. 🙄
Very well done. I am using a glue down vinyl plank instead of the tongue and groove on my concrete basement floor. Does the same process with the vapor barrier and underlay apply?
Great video! I would want an installer like you but good hands men are hard to find. My question is: My front door is metal so it can not be cut. How thick is the product with underlayment for concrete? Than you.
Your video was great. You went step by step and explained why and how it would work. I do have a question for you. My son is remodeling our library at church for his Eagle project for boy scouts. There is currently carpet in there but it is concrete underneath. Should we just use the Eva form or both items you suggested in the video?
The layer of dimple board is huge benefit in terms of the ability to allow your floor to dry if there is moisture coming through the slab but you could do with out it if you arnt worried about that.
I would check the underlayment requirements for your engineered hard wood it will likely be different. If you have to nail it down you will need to do a ply wood subfloor. Good luck!
Why use dimple pad 1st then the UV pad over it b4 tongue and groove? Couldn't you use air guard or dimple? They both have moisture barrier and floor leveling like floating floor kinda
You should use the dimple board first to create an air gap which allows moisture to dissipate, the eva foam or similar under no pad provides insulation/noise dampening, I would use a concrete floor leveling first if your on concrete
Always follow your manufacturers recommendations. If you wanted to do a system like I am using you would need to select the right flooring material that allows for underlayment Thanks for watching
You could but you wouldn’t get the same benefit… this adds insulation, sound dampening, moisture protection from “above” sources… water can dry out if it’s spilled. Most floors are water proof Now so they won’t warp but water can still be trapped underneath and mold if it can’t dry out Also redguard is a a chemical you might not get full or good coverage and it smells horrible
Thanks for your efficient video! I wonder how expansion gaps be treated, for wood subfloor I think first and last panels are nailed. Here no treatment, will them go toward wall causing gaps? which brands base materials you used?
For the dimple board I used a basic product from Lowe’s. For the underpad I went to a a flooring specialty store and got an underpad made of thick waterproof Eva foam. This is a much better product than what you would get at Lowe’s for the same price as the cheap thin foam stuff they sell
I want to install 2x2 foam tiles (like the one for children or for yoga) in the basement (I will leave the corners and edges next to the wall uncovered). Do I need a dimple moisture barrier underneath that foam, specifically to avoid mold? What about a thin polyethylene later under the foam? Or the blue dmx? Or will the foam be enough. The underneath of the foam is flat. Thanks!
I wouldn’t worry about mold Forming under foam tiles. They are meant to be temporary… you can remove them and clean as required if you spill or anything
@@DIYDudes thanks ❤️. So the moisture seeping up from the concrete won't get stuck under the foam and get all moldy? I don't know much about the chemistry of concrete/foam combination and if mold grows there if there is no air flow! 🙂
It depends on how your house was built with respect to the quality of the foundation. I would lay the foam down and just periodically check under a corner to see how it’s doing. Good luck!
Great Video. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on my idea I'm tossing around for my office build in the basement. I just bought a house built in the 50's and building an office in the basement with the goal of minimizing sound and any moisture/vapor. I'm looking into getting LVP flooring and putting down a 6 mil vapor barrier on the cement, underlayment (QuietWalk from Home Depot), then the plank flooring. Again, looking to minimize sound transfer and any moisture/vapor.
Hey Luke the only thing I would be concerned about is adding the vapour barrier right on top of the concrete. I used the dimple board to create an air gap…. That way as moisture does wick through the concrete it will have a space to evaporate…. If the moisture barrier is right on top of the concrete water will just collect there…. Talk to the guys at Home Depot I’m sure they can give you some advice on their products. Thanks for watching
Awesome...I am going to use the same underlay for my basement. Can you tell me if this will actually keep the basement floor a bit warm during cold winters on Alberta?
You’re a master craftsman! It’s so hard to find good tradesmen. Why pay high for a botched job? I’m going to take my time and do it myself. This is a perfect video!❤
We have thinks like check valve access pipes and other types of things we need access to on the slab... How do you do flooring when you need to be able to remove part of it if you need to access the check valves or something? Was told we can ot cover over them.
You’ll have to box them out using trim. Build a trim square around the opening, butt the floor up to that and then cover the gap with another piece of trim. Cut a lid out of wood or use flooring material for the opening itself. Good luck!
When you hammer the planks in to get the joint tighter, what is stopping the whole floor from shifting, since you want to maintain the expansion gap along the wall?
If you can find the Eva foam one use it otherwise you can get a dimple board product with a foam topper built all in one now. Ask the Home Depot guys when u get there. Thanks for watching
What are the two types of underlayment/ moisture barrier you used in this video? Do you have suggestion for alternative for the foam pad? I can find what was used at Home Depot
The foam pad I got from a flooring specialty store. It’s a thick eva Foam… much better than Home Depot brand. The dimple board is standard from Lowe’s or home depot
@@DIYDudes Was it similar to Dekorman from HD? 3mm thick. That's too thick for LVP (at least it is according to Lifeproof) - did you have any issues with it being too soft and boards separating? I want to do the same thing and would love some insulation below the floor but don't have much room, don't want to increase the height much. But you need very solid underlayment that can take a lot of PSI usually.
Drew - think I need the same vapor barrier and EVA if I'm doing this on a slab, ranch home in FL built in 2018? Or, can I just go with the 6 mil plastic and skip the EVA?
The Eva or similar soft under pad makes the floor feel softer and dampens the sound of people walking. I wouldn’t skip it but check the manufacturer’s instructions for the floor you are putting down. And if your Lee really concerned you can call their tech and discuss your specific area. They will give you specifics. Thanks for watching!
We are looking for the same colored flooring that you are using. Please tell me where you got is and what color the walls are. Looks like Agreeable Grey to me but you know how colors on phone are like. Thanks
So I bought a new townhome and it’s on a slab. After few months. Noticed buckles on the floor ( LVP) come to find out there is no moisture barrier on the slab. How is possible new homes they don’t put moisture barrier on the floor due to slab has moisture. I don’t understand why new homes miss that.
You could but the whole idea of the plastic dimple board is to create an air gap using non organic materials.. if moisture does accumulate it can evaporate in the air gap. Good luck!
Thanks so much. No extra chit chat that drives me nuts you got right to the point and explained everything really well! Subscribed.
Thank you
Everything? He could have mentioned in the description which materials he used, don't you think?
Instead of describing "hardly known exotic tools like: Speed square for drawing straight lines
- 4-foot level for checking high/low spots
- Utility knife for cutting underlayment (can also be used to cut vinyl planks)
- Mitre saw for cutting planks
- Mallet & pull bar for setting the joints
- Multi-tool for cutting door trim and other precision cuts
He could named the materials used. Are we mind readers? At least, I am not able to read off the screen what's the brand of the dimple mat or the Eva underlayment. Excuse me!
@@sfuchs thanks for helping out with the extra details. Although I don’t think he left that info out on purpose. Sometimes we forget that things that are common to us may not be that common for others. It’s just human imperfection. You could call off the dogs on this one.
@@sfuchs if you're that clueless, you're better off hiring a contractor for your renovation.
@MK-zf6or what's the point of posting this video for DIY Dudes, if you end up needing hiring a contractor??
You make a total sense bro. I only ask for the materials used, as there are multitude of options and I don't want to purchase a wrong ones, as it's a considerable investment comparing to a $7 speed square, or $5 malet, which he described so well.
Best and most helpful video I've come across. No BS talking or promoting their products
Thank you!
This is a great tutorial. I feel confident to tackle my basement floor now. Thank you
Thank you good luck!
@2:25 overlay the butts and cut. So simple, but I never would have thought of that. Thanks!
Thank you. It’s the easiest way to get a perfect joint!
3:51 That is a CRAZY amount of deflection. That first layer is way to bouncey. Those joints will work themselves out eventually.
This has been a hard decision to make. Now we are clear. Great demonstration
Thank you!
Excellent mate. To the point, professional, informative, all relevant content. Just need a video on laying vinyl adhesive to concrete flooring.
Thank you!
Excellent video. I see that you do not use the plastic tapping blocks that some people complain about breaking or messing up their vinyl.
Thank you. Yes I like to use a scrap piece of flooring… that way joint has full contact and is less likely to break
I’ve done a similar tactic. Highly recommend using the scrap price to tap the joints together. The plastic blocks will damage the tongue and groove. Though I only use the pull block on the edges. Otherwise I just tap the scrap piece directly. Great video!
Thanks bunches certainly I now know more than I did 10 mins ago.
Great video for beginner.
Sign Dudette 😊
Thank you!
Thanks. I will do my son’s floor which will be on a slab. Your video was helpful.
Thank you!
Thanks for keeping it straightforward and Simple! Great video
Thanks for the like!
Exactly what I was looking for as far moisture barrier layers for concrete. Couple of questions please!
1) I would have put the moisture barrier down first, then the underpad on top. You did the opposite - underpad down first. Wouldn't moisture coming up would hit the underpad first then? Why did you do that order?
2) How is the flooring adhering to the under layer? Is it? What keeps it from bowing up? So the planks lock together at the joints?
Thank you so much, very helpful video!
Regarding 2) the flooring doesn't adhere to the under layer. The flooring is interlocked via tongue and groove so the entire weight of the floor is what holds it down.
Honestly both layers provide water proof benefit. The dimple board creates an air gap and the foam pad provides a continuous sealed surface/insulation and sound dampening
Good luck
Does one still use underlayment if the vinyl plank as an attached pad?
This is going to save me so much money thank you
Great video! Why not lay the moisture barrier first?
The dimple board acts as an air gap to allow the moisture that does permeate from the concrete to dry rather than be compressed and not dry
0:45 what if the basement is slated towards the drain?
Nice straight to the point.
What are my option in basement if I have drain in the middle and the floor is not obviously leveled and slops towards drain in center.
If you want to level out the floor you would have to do a plywood subfloor and shim them level.
Thanks for watching!
Good video, we’re about to do a new construction basement so thankfully no molding or doors to work around
Good luck thanks
Great video! Do you need underlayment?
In a basement you definitely need an underlayment.. really anywhere for that matter. It provides insulation sound dampening and moisture protection.
Good luck!
@@DIYDudes thank you 🙏
Happy building!
Glad I found this video. Great job boss!!
Thanks!
Thank you very much. Your video are great and very explainable trough the whole process. 👍👍
Thank you!
Thanks for this great instructional video! We needed it!
Good luck thanks
Great video! Thank you! Question about the moisture and layers underneath the plank flooring - is it likely for mold to develop between the porous concrete and the plastic layers? To prevent mold, is a more absorbent material (other than plastic) necessary to absorb moisture? Thanks for your help!
Hey there. No the idea is you don’t want any thing to absorb and hold moisture the plastic dimple board creates an air gap…. If moisture does accumulate than it can evaporate into the air gap. If it absorbs into something it will stay trapped. Organic material will grow mold. Plastic shouldn’t. Good luck!
Can you drop links for underlay materials?
Very professional, love the video. Have a question regarding the underlay and vap barrier you put down in preparation. I have Life Proof vinyl flooring I purchased from Home Depot which already has a backing underlay and snaps into place. would this be overkill using your prep method as well as the vinyl floor with the backing or not recommended to do both? Kind regards Cliff
Hey Cliff thanks for the comment, the underlay on the back of your flooring probably is not designed to be a vapour barrier but more likely to be for insulation/sound dampening. If you are flooring on top of concrete I would recommend using an additional vapour barrier with a dimple bottom.
@@DIYDudes Thanks for the reply and direction, will take your advice. Kind Regards Cliff
@@DIYDudes where can you find the Eva foam underlayment?
@@DIYDudes I have the same question my situation is a little more complicated. I have cinder blocks for the wall in the basement. They are porous. I have sealed it with hydraulic cement as well as a sealant. But I don't think it is 100% fixed :(. Eventually, I will have to seal it from the outside. So coming to the problem. I was thinking that if I seal the concrete with sealant and then have no undergarment - then the rainwater if it comes over the vinyl floor as there is very little space between floor and vinyl. so that I can wipe that water from the vinyl tiles or vacuum it. The little water between vinyl and cement floor will evaporate faster as there is no undergarment.
@@DIYDudes
Thank you for the great video and info. After reading and talking with flooring companies, I've concluded that a vapor barrier is required underneath the vinyl planks if you have an older home. I'm positive a vapor barrier was not installed when my home was built (1980). Two separate flooring companies mentioned they use 6 mil plastic when installing vinyl planks for customers. Just another alternative (cheaper) to consider. Do you see any reason why regular plastic wouldn't work?
No there’s no reason that wouldn’t work as a vapour barrier. It would not provide any additional insulation or sound dampening though
They still don’t put moisture barrier on new homes if on slab. I just purchased new home. They are finally gonna redo the whole floor and install moisture barrier. Due to buckles started to form after few months since moved in. 🙄
@@davidh9820 buckle on basement floor? Because of concrete? Or all the floor upstairs etc? Thanks.
Very well done. I am using a glue down vinyl plank instead of the tongue and groove on my concrete basement floor. Does the same process with the vapor barrier and underlay apply?
Hey there for glue down you would use a different material like a barricade plywood subfloor panel, u need some thing really stable for that.
Thank you very much I didn't know what to do you help me out alot and easy to understand thank you👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you!
Great well-explained video!...Thank you, DIY Dudes, very much!
Thanks rodney!
Awesome tips man. Question for ya. Do you measure the width of the room prior so you don’t have one small plank run at your termination?
I roughly do but yea it’s good practice to do that
Does the floor feel squishy after that?
No not bad… not. As firm though as a board on concrete though
thank you for the video. can you please provide a link to purchase the same premium Eva foam pad you used in this video, thanks again
Yes please!!!
Can u put some links to wear you get the underlayment stuff
I think you can get it at Home Depot online now
do you have links to the materials you used?
Great video! I would want an installer like you but good hands men are hard to find. My question is: My front door is metal so it can not be cut. How thick is the product with underlayment for concrete? Than you.
I want to redo my floor but Im on a budget, Are there cheaper alternatives or items least-necessary that I could skip on ?
You could get a cheaper under pad…. Check out your building big box store to see what the are offering and wait for a sale.
Good luck !
there isn’t a Big Box store near me
I already bought the laminate at a habitat for humanity
Very instructive...I am about to tackle a huge basement project and this is my go to video for the flooring part. Thanks.
Thank you.!!🙏 good luck!
5* out of 5 partner. Great show.
Thank you!
Are all vinyl toxic? Which brand do you recommend that has less toxins?
They shouldn’t be if they are being sold in store. Check with the manufacturer
This is great. What about vinyl that has an underlay attached underneath the plank?
Check your floors manufacturer recommendations. Usually you should not use two underpass. Thanks for watching!
Great tutorial, thank you so much! Is this type of floor strong resilient enough to handle a big dog running around?
What’s the first underlayment you’re using? Name and brand please
Your video was great. You went step by step and explained why and how it would work. I do have a question for you. My son is remodeling our library at church for his Eagle project for boy scouts. There is currently carpet in there but it is concrete underneath. Should we just use the Eva form or both items you suggested in the video?
The layer of dimple board is huge benefit in terms of the ability to allow your floor to dry if there is moisture coming through the slab but you could do with out it if you arnt worried about that.
Hello, would it be the same instructions if the new flooring is engineered hardwook?
I would check the underlayment requirements for your engineered hard wood it will likely be different. If you have to nail it down you will need to do a ply wood subfloor. Good luck!
@@DIYDudes Thank you
Why use dimple pad 1st then the UV pad over it b4 tongue and groove? Couldn't you use air guard or dimple? They both have moisture barrier and floor leveling like floating floor kinda
You should use the dimple board first to create an air gap which allows moisture to dissipate, the eva foam or similar under no pad provides insulation/noise dampening, I would use a concrete floor leveling first if your on concrete
If I install a waterproof laminate in my basement, do I need to put the barriers you mentioned underneath the laminate?
I still would. You don’t want moisture collecting under the floor
Hi, could you pls link below which 2 underpayments that you used ?
Yup...im just gonna pay to have it done lol
😂😂😂
Thanks so much! You explained it very well.
Thank you!
Great video - very informative!
Thank you
Do I need the underlayment? It says it will void the warranty
Always follow your manufacturers recommendations. If you wanted to do a system like I am using you would need to select the right flooring material that allows for underlayment Thanks for watching
Did you put a sealant on the concrete?
No we didn’t an moisture that happens to percolate through will dissipate in the air gap created by the dimples.
What brand/type of flooring and Underlayment did you use? Good video!
I’m not sure the exact brand. Check out Home Depot online though
Can you post links to the underlayment and tape thats was used
Amazon Link to the padding used in this video please
Thank you!! Very easy to follow
Thank you!
Question...why not use RedGuard or a similar product to waterproof/seal the floor?
You could but you wouldn’t get the same benefit… this adds insulation, sound dampening, moisture protection from “above” sources… water can dry out if it’s spilled. Most floors are water proof
Now so they won’t warp but water can still be trapped underneath and mold if it can’t dry out
Also redguard is a a chemical you might not get full or good coverage and it smells horrible
Does that underlayment take the place of sealing the concrete?
I have to redo my floors over concrete as well….is this efficient for four season weather?
Yes it’s fine for a northern climate. Thanks for watching
What if the flooring has a pad on the back side do you still need the underlayment?
Check the manufacturer recommendations but it shouldn’t hirt
How is your flooring holding up? Many ppl say the simple Matt is too thick for spc flooring and will cause it to come apart at some seams
It’s holding up really good actually…!no joint separation and it’s nice and warm and quite.
Thanks for watching!
@@DIYDudes thanks man, I’m stressing about an underpayment, so many mixed reviews. Have a good one:)
Thanks for your efficient video! I wonder how expansion gaps be treated, for wood subfloor I think first and last panels are nailed. Here no treatment, will them go toward wall causing gaps? which brands base materials you used?
What type of dimple pad and underpayment did you use?
For the dimple board I used a basic product from Lowe’s. For the underpad I went to a a flooring specialty store and got an underpad made of thick waterproof Eva foam. This is a much better product than what you would get at Lowe’s for the same price as the cheap thin foam stuff they sell
So the tile is just set ontop of the stuff and not stuck down at all?
Yes that’s correct it’s designed to be a floating floor so it expands/contracts slightly
I want to install 2x2 foam tiles (like the one for children or for yoga) in the basement (I will leave the corners and edges next to the wall uncovered). Do I need a dimple moisture barrier underneath that foam, specifically to avoid mold? What about a thin polyethylene later under the foam? Or the blue dmx? Or will the foam be enough. The underneath of the foam is flat. Thanks!
I wouldn’t worry about mold
Forming under foam tiles. They are meant to be temporary… you can remove them and clean as required if you spill or anything
@@DIYDudes thanks ❤️. So the moisture seeping up from the concrete won't get stuck under the foam and get all moldy? I don't know much about the chemistry of concrete/foam combination and if mold grows there if there is no air flow! 🙂
It depends on how your house was built with respect to the quality of the foundation. I would lay the foam down and just periodically check under a corner to see how it’s doing. Good luck!
If u could only use one of the underlayment which would u use?
I prefer the type i used in the videon
Can you please let me know where to buy these underlayment and eva foam ?
I think you can now get it online at Home Depot.
Hi Isn't the dimple board waterproof?
A similar product is available for water proofing. In this case it’s a lower cost subfloor and provides an air gap
Great Video. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on my idea I'm tossing around for my office build in the basement. I just bought a house built in the 50's and building an office in the basement with the goal of minimizing sound and any moisture/vapor. I'm looking into getting LVP flooring and putting down a 6 mil vapor barrier on the cement, underlayment (QuietWalk from Home Depot), then the plank flooring. Again, looking to minimize sound transfer and any moisture/vapor.
Hey Luke the only thing I would be concerned about is adding the vapour barrier right on top of the concrete. I used the dimple board to create an air gap…. That way as moisture does wick through the concrete it will have a space to evaporate…. If the moisture barrier is right on top of the concrete water will just collect there…. Talk to the guys at Home Depot I’m sure they can give you some advice on their products. Thanks for watching
Which mitre saw should I buy?
Personal preference really… I would recommend getting a dual bevel sliding saw though as you can do a lot more with it
How many boxes did you use for that part shown in the video
Not sure. It’s box maybe had 6 pieces in it. So quite a few for that room.
Awesome...I am going to use the same underlay for my basement. Can you tell me if this will actually keep the basement floor a bit warm during cold winters on Alberta?
It will definitely help Good luck!
Do you have to leave an expansion gap when laying the flooring??
what glue to use for lvp to concrete
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I didn’t use glue… the floor is meant to float and be able to move.
You’re a master craftsman! It’s so hard to find good tradesmen. Why pay high for a botched job? I’m going to take my time and do it myself. This is a perfect video!❤
Thank you! Good luck!
did you put in the underlayment the wrong way? isn't it silver side down?
No not this brand.
We have thinks like check valve access pipes and other types of things we need access to on the slab... How do you do flooring when you need to be able to remove part of it if you need to access the check valves or something? Was told we can ot cover over them.
You’ll have to box them out using trim. Build a trim square around the opening, butt the floor up to that and then cover the gap with another piece of trim. Cut a lid out of wood or use flooring material for the opening itself.
Good luck!
@@DIYDudes thanks.
Hope it works out for you good luck!
Great video. I apologize, I did not see what thickness the EVA was,(3mm?) for the same exact use in basement? thanks
Yes I believe it is 3 mm thick thanks for watching.!
When you hammer the planks in to get the joint tighter, what is stopping the whole floor from shifting, since you want to maintain the expansion gap along the wall?
What is the names of products you used the materials that silver and gray for the floor
Can I use self adhesive floor tiles on the underlayment you used here
No. Adhesive tiles would need to be attached to a rigid surface like wood.
Excellent video. Thanks!
Thank you!
do you need the premium eva foam? i can’t find the one you used anywhere. Like can you just use the dimpled moisture barrier
If you can find the Eva foam one use it otherwise you can get a dimple board product with a foam topper built all in one now. Ask the Home Depot guys when u get there.
Thanks for watching
What are the two types of underlayment/ moisture barrier you used in this video? Do you have suggestion for alternative for the foam pad? I can find what was used at Home Depot
The foam pad I got from a flooring specialty store. It’s a thick eva Foam… much better than Home Depot brand. The dimple board is standard from Lowe’s or home depot
@@DIYDudes Was it similar to Dekorman from HD? 3mm thick. That's too thick for LVP (at least it is according to Lifeproof) - did you have any issues with it being too soft and boards separating? I want to do the same thing and would love some insulation below the floor but don't have much room, don't want to increase the height much. But you need very solid underlayment that can take a lot of PSI usually.
Drew - think I need the same vapor barrier and EVA if I'm doing this on a slab, ranch home in FL built in 2018? Or, can I just go with the 6 mil plastic and skip the EVA?
The Eva or similar soft under pad makes the floor feel softer and dampens the sound of people walking. I wouldn’t skip it but check the manufacturer’s instructions for the floor you are putting down. And if your Lee really concerned you can call their tech and discuss your specific area. They will give you specifics.
Thanks for watching!
I want to do my basement and I half drywall and half concrete walls… is it still possible to put vinyl against that?
Yes definitely… just make sure to leave your expansion gaps at the walls
Thank you for detailed video, could you please put the item numbers or full name for both mats you used under laminate.
Did you leave an air gap at the edge/between trim for the dimple board? Saw it on the instructions but not sure.
Right to the point great!
Thank you!
Would you recommend using a sealer on the concrete before putting down the underlayment?
No I don’t think it’s required. Thanks for watching!
We are looking for the same colored flooring that you are using. Please tell me where you got is and what color the walls are. Looks like Agreeable Grey to me but you know how colors on phone are like. Thanks
What happens to the water vapor conning up from the concrete and hits the dimpled vapor barrier? Does the floor underneath collect moisture and mold?
It creates an air gap that allows moisture to dry …. If you didn’t have an air gap then the moisture would be stuck and not dry. Good luck!
So I bought a new townhome and it’s on a slab. After few months. Noticed buckles on the floor ( LVP) come to find out there is no moisture barrier on the slab. How is possible new homes they don’t put moisture barrier on the floor due to slab has moisture. I don’t understand why new homes miss that.
Might also be the way it was laid. If the joints are hammered to tightly the may buckle… some of the thin flooring is very flimsy
Could I just use pergo gold underlayment instead of the dimple?
The UV underlayment vs other video top DO you have to use the UV over dimple pad?
I like to use the eva foam over the dimple board as it provides insulation/and sound dampening
What is the name of the silver floor insulation you used?
Why use a moisture proof layer in vinyl flooring ? Isn't vinyl the main reason you chose to deal with the moisture and mold ?
Mold
Exactly…. Keep the moisture out of your finished space
@@DIYDudes My laminate does not lay flat at the end where it abuts to my floor tile. How do I get it to lay flat?
Could you send a photo?
Can you use cork underlayment in the basement? Heard cork is good at preventing moisture and mold
You could but the whole idea of the plastic dimple board is to create an air gap using non organic materials.. if moisture does accumulate it can evaporate in the air gap. Good luck!
Does the underlayment and barrier help level the floor if its close?
Yes for sure any small issues will get absorbed by the under pad. Anything big you’ll need to use a floor leveler cement. Thanks for watching!
Very helpful, thank you! I’m wondering if there would be an issue if I just did the dimpled rubber underlayment without the Eva foam layer?
You can you just get reduced insulation/sound dampening…. Good luck!