Biggest change would be to make these 1-4 players. Same for the old heists. That 4 players restriction even for some easy preps like steal prison bus is stupid af.
4 Player Deliver EMP: Mo People, Mo Problems I can do it solo in about 90 seconds after arriving at the compound but there's always some joker throwing explosives or shooting people in sight of guards..
I agree! I HATE some of the setup missions when doing the Doomsday Heist. Most of them are so long, tedious and sometimes so boring. Even the Avenger Setup Missions is like HARDER than the actual Act 2 Bodgan Heist which mind you is the Easiest one.
The avenger missions is the most unfair shit I've ever played on gta online, it's worse than those normal missions where you have endless amounts of enemies chasing and shooting you at the same time. They should've just added the option for us to use thermal goggles because how the hell am i suppose to fight god knows how much enemies inside a giant hangar in the dark, where everything is shooting at my direction and they're all wearing black clothes?
@@originaldelta part of the challenge is not quick restarting. With this bug you have to quick restart to continue playing. Meaning it’s impossible to complete for people who haven’t done it.
Or you know, it just resets on it's own on random. This happened to me with my friends and we just thought that, if the game randomly can reset the whole thing we just gave up.
This is what I remember about Doomsday heists the most. Overall I was actually enjoying Doomsday heists when they came out but I noticed that every single act has at least 1 mission that's so boring and annoying that it demotivates me to play the heist. In act 1 it was the Deluxo prep mission. In act 2 I hated the firefighter mission the most I believe and in act 3 Chernobog mission is pure pain. Doomsday is in my opinion combination of one of the most fun and challenging missions with one of the worst missions at the same time.
The firefighter mission isn't bad on Act 2. The trick there, well, two tricks: Any guards on the roof are Snipers, and have their Accuracy rating turned up. Take them out at all costs before you get out of the vehicle; they are not like the other respawning NPCs. Second, use the RCV for bullet cover. The thing is a mobile wall. If the driver is on point, they can keep the recovery team from breaking a nail. It's actually really fun when played correctly.
Exactly. Act 3 would've been my favorite if not for the chernobog mission. Also i love the challenge aswell. Things like cayo are just so mind numbingly easy if you play it the way it was intended (Stealth)
My main complaint with heist preps and setups is getting stuff that you wont be using, like the 4 Deluxos for Act 1, or the 4 Strombergs for Act 2, or the 2 cars for the Casino Heist. I wish you were able to grab a minimum amount of whatever you have to grab for 2 players, (so 2 Deluxos/Strombergs or 1 Casino car, 1 weapons bag etc would be the minimum for a 2 player team). Having to get enough for 4 players is just dumb and annoying when you usually dont even have 3 players let alone 4, its specially bad if you do the preps solo, this is why I dont bother doing the Casino Heist or Doomsday without buying preps, its just tedious. Otherwise most Doomsday Heist setups/finales (apart from a few) are the most fun I have on this game
i just buy the deluxo prep lol. these's also a glitch with which you can buy setups while buying preps. So you can go straight to the finale and make 700k every 48 min 😂
This is honestly facts. If you steal one car just limit the amount of people you can take on the mission. Such an easy fix. And with deliveries (Mc) theres an option to put it in one truck... if im solo just spawn the truck smh. Instead of rewarding players for co op they get punished and it makes no sense
Every time when I TRY to complete the Doomsday Heist someone disconnects and we are FORCED to start all the way over from the beginning because the game kicks us out into freemode. This would not be so annoying if they would just add a Spectate system.
I feel like the classic heists and doomsday heists need a overhaul. If they made the the classic heists similar to the casino heist setup wise that would be awesome
Yeah I agree, but that would require them to completely restart from scratch and redesign the OG heists all over again. Classic heists were designed with the idea of 4 players, it’s just too much work to fix it.
@@AgentE1Games True. Just sucks because the classic heists are pretty interesting imo. Especially pac standard. It always feels cool asf to rob the big bank lol
@@AgentE1Games Not really you can take away code and it would improve eg have a npc in the velum during prison break and on Pacific standard that very easy fleeca is already 2 player but you can change it to 4 player humane labs also quite easy replace some roles with npcs and it's a lot easier to run because of the less code hence less inputs
@@dylanconnolly2665 it’s not that simple. You can’t just use NPCs in place of players (of which would already require a ton of work and break a bunch of other parts of the heist.) there’s also some voice lines that would have to be taken out and or changed, also less Code doesn’t change much… What are you on about? Lol
Sometimes wish I had people to do some of these heists even if just for the current heist bonus stuff, seeing how tedious this one is again makes me kind of glad I don't need to do this one.
@@c.fyffe0 Thanks for the offer, I'm on PS5. I tried to start with Fleeca heist, but no randoms joined. I used to do Bogdan and stuff with friends when they were around. Got a somewhat new character setup. If you do help me know I ain't to good at surviving or shooting, also in Australia so a bit of time difference maybe.
One thing I will say with Doomsday and Player Choice - it's actually ironically *MORE* flexible to player choice than Casino even. It's just that it doesn't actually tell you the things you can do on missions, or even really intended on them - there's less rails to stop you from doing it. Like for example on Server Farms, did you know you can kill everyone in the parking lot and wire it with sticky bombs, then also wire the elevator area with sticky bombs? If your team does that you can wipe out the entire parking lot and the central defenders in one click. The heist is littered with stuff like this, it's just not obvious. Or the 50 different methods you can use on the otherwise terrible act 2 finale..
There’s a big difference between intentional design choices and accidental ones. Rockstar has always been in the business of railroading players as much as they can inside the missions. NakeyJakey made a great video on this exact thing. So while it’s nice that you can do those methods to save time, it is absolutely not what the developers intended and designed the mission around
While I agree the setups are unnecessarily long, the reason you steal both is to prevent Avon from arming himself with better weapons, you steal both so he won’t reproduce them, and so you can sell one of the cars.
A lot of the dialogue leads me to believe there were last minute changes to the heist to make it easier. Like the long flight on Avenger after you recover it they keep talking about how "Merryweather's still after you?!" when there's not a plane in the sky. If you purposely break the lock, then you have a hellish dogfight on your hands that IS winnable, but amazingly hard.
Unfortunately, this is my favorite heist in GTA Online. No I don't care about the rewards and the cash, I care more about the gameplay. You may call me boring because I enjoy boring missions. I felt like they were the most unique and had a very nice story (yes I'm aware that GTA is not supposed to be a game where you save the world but I can't help how much I loved this heist). I liked the challenging missions that doomsday heist had and how much harder it is. It's harder than today's missions like the contracts, they are easy and don't bring much challenge. But I get it on the other side why you would hate it. To be honest I would fall asleep from this missions if I want to do it for the hoodie but replaying the whole heist is hella fun.
Everyone has their own opinion. I like most heists besides act 2 and cayo perico. The problem with the community is that everyone is a grinder. They only play this game to make money they dont do it for fun.
@@TalonSolid yeah i understand starters need to make money. But judging content based on if it makes money or not is stupid imo cause theres no longevity in that. Eventually people make enough money. It should be judged fun wise first. I think casino heist did this the best. The perfect mix of payout+fun+freedom
@@pirata2027 Ppl who complain about these heists would probably grind Cayo or did glitches and haven’t really grinded hard enough for money like the og or clean players. I remember stacking thousand by thousand to buy a facility and being able to earn a million from a single heist finale was absurd to me. I’ve always urged my friends to not do glitches or grind Cayo as it takes out the fun of the game and treat it as a job and feel bored when they own everything in the game.
There is a reason to take both the Barrage and Khanjali - so that Clifford can't use either! Anyway, I totally agree with you about setups, however the act 3 finale is my favorite mission.
The prep missions are too long, but I do like the challenge of the rescue agent 14 and Khanjali missions. Remember you get major discounts on some very cool vehicles as well while ALL of the Perico vehicles are garbage. Payouts are definitely too low, although in 2 player mode the finale isn't bad with the bonus.
Are you serious? The sparrow is one of the most useful helis in the game, especially early on. Sure it's not great in pvp but it makes cayo perico a breeze, and is a fantastic mode of transportation.
I recently ran through all 3 Doomsday acts with a buddy and at the end I got the Xbox 'rare' diamond achievements for each one, Bogdan was the 'highest' player percentage at 6% of all players playing GTA finishing it (and we all know why that is) but act 1 and 3 both had less than 5% of players finishing it, which seems like a waste of harddrive and data use to have a group of missions that barely anyone does, then again that is a very common theme with GTA, a game with thousands of missions/activities and barely any player count because people would rather run a Cayo to get money and then spend the rest of their time griefing in Freemode
The act 3 just feels like it ain’t worth doing, it takes long to setup especially with randoms and the finally doesn’t pay well. The casino pays more and is easier they need to revamp it at least the payout
Another thing to add to the list: 4-player Criminal Mastermind pays out $3.75 million but 2-player only pays out $750k. You'd think the less players, the higher the award but it's reversed. I feel like 4-player should stay at $3.75 million, 3-player should go up to $7.75 million and 2-player should be over $10 million since the missions are already hard enough as it is even with 4 players so 2 players should be rewarded more since they are losing their sanity to get a trophy/achievement saying they did the 3 hardest challenges possible.
The same can somewhat be said about the Casino Heist. Still a great heist, mind you, but it would be vastly improved if it could be done solo. A few changes like only needing to steal one 4-door getaway vehicle and being able to pick more than just one part of the objective during prep missions. Making 2 trips bugs the hell out of me. Lastly, drop the need for 2 key cards to 1. I'd rather be encouraged to play with other people, not forced. Oh, and as a bonus, use the same mechanic as Cayo of having a random guard holding a key to a separate entrance. Except in the Casino Heist, this guard will have 3rd level clearance to cages within the vault
The doomsday heists are not outdated but too tedious and the pay is too low. They should increase the payout by at least 3 times, especially act 3. Spend almost 30 mins to complete and only pay 2.2mil. It should be at least 6.5mil.
the sad thing for the ULP escort mission is that with the Minigun Tampa you can protect the S-300 better than with the ramp buggies as well as shoot down the Valks with it as well... but some vics / helis could really use a few MKII versions like the Akula, the Scarab as well as the Conada as a weaponised MKII upgrade...
It really sucks because Rockstar clearly made all these choices to sell more shark cards. If they made the content more engaging, fun and balanced, then the reason for buying shark cards wouldn’t be “so I don’t have to slog through everything”. It’s a big reason why I quit the game a few years ago. The content isn’t there for long term players to engage with and you find out it’s a shallow experience designed to get you to spend
@@GhillieMaster If we were allowed to use both and/or got a meaningful bonus for any vehicle(s) we left behind then I'd be slightly less irritated. But I will say I don't like the idea of the Cliffford clones having an ATV that has a grenade launcher and a .50 cal turret or a stealth tank that has a railgun, .50 cal turret and grenade launchers. You know what though? I'd rather steal both, leave them behind, get the cash bonus for both and go in with an armoured Kuruma, it's not like any of them have explosives on the Act III Finale.
As you mentioned the MC selling missions. I think that these are the worst missions in the game by design. When they came out you had to do them in a public lobby and all R* came up with for a business battle against other players was to give you slow as hell vehicles and mark them as a target on everyone else's map. The idea probably was that you do it with friends and fill up the MC with randoms to protect the cargo, but if you get 4 vehicles the majority of your group can't defend you. And now were every sane person does their missions in a private lobby, they are just boring.
The problem with many missions mentioned is they are 'test drive' missions, where the point is to get the players to try out some new vehicle, hoping they will purchase it later. Notice how the NPCs always take their time talking about the cool features of the vehicle you're driving, exactly like a salesman during an IRL test drive. Rockstar loved having missions like this years ago (see MOC missions, special vehicle work, OG heist preps). At least with MOC and special vehicle, the missions were small and standalone. You do them once and then you're basically done with them. But these Doomsday ones are required to do every time you play this heist. Only requiring the player to steal the Barrage or Khanjali is a great idea to speed things up for Act 3.
Besides the set ups for the first mission I've never done Bogdan. And the only reason I did that was because there was a glitch during the mission to put F1 wheels on my RC tank.
I did the Bogdan Problem Heist with randoms just to get the Clifford Varsity and what we did was someone had the Toreador and I joined in and we went underwater and stayed there the entire time and do nothing just to wait for the other player/s to finish the submarine part and pick the player/s up in the Toreador underwater and get in the Avenger take out the enemies in choppers and go to the hanger at LSIA and we finished it in under 15 minutes.
In the old days the method was to sit out there in a Dodo, then fly everyone to the Avenger straight from the water. The helicopters are zero threat to the vehicle if there's nobody manning it, and won't even spawn if you avoid it.
@@Diabepis lol Avenger and RCV aren't 'outdated shitty preps,' they are just difficult if you don't know how to play. Most heists are designed for babies it seems like by comparison.
Only way i can have some fun doing the ulp escort missions is by just stealing a Lazer from the military base and use it to blow up all the helicopter, honestly that chernobog sucks massive ass.
Worst thing about Escort ULP? All you need to do is drive the Chernobog to the initial objective. After that, you can abandon it and just use whatever Personal Vehicle you brought along.
My biggest complaints with doomsday is that most of the heist is literally endless driving from the city to the desert with most mission drop off points being at the desert so it’s just endless driving for the most part. Also the fact that the heist has you do both setup missions and prep missions which completely slow down the whole heist entirely having to go from doing what’s essentially heist setups in free mode to doing another heist setup but in a seperate lobby made worse when you have to collect 4 vehicles sometimes even when you aren’t gonna do the heist with 4 people. To me the mission structures of all the setup missions(with the exception of escort ULP) aren’t really bad. It’s just killed and ruined with the constant driving back and forth from desert and city. To me I’ve always considered the doomsday heist as a whole as more of GTAs version of an Endgame/ dark souls style difficulty type of experience and I want it to stay that way with some missions structure changes mainly the spawns and drop off points like you said. Also buffing it’s pay by a lot and making it the best paying heist for all the things you gotta do making it more of a dark souls challenging type of heist would make it more of a reason to be played and would give players the high reward for playing it over the other heists and wouldn’t take away from players who would still want to do the cayo or casino heist for its simplicity. So to sum it all up the heist needs spawn and drop off changes for its setups and preps(wish preps never existed to begin with). Let us collect how many vehicles depending on how many players we will have on the team or vehicles we will use. And buff the pay for finales to make it worth putting the time and effort into doing all the preps setups and overall work doing the heist.
>My biggest complaints with doomsday is that most of the heist is literally endless driving from the city to the desert with most mission drop off points being at the desert so it’s just endless driving for the most part. OG Heists are far more guilty of this. Far, far more. Because you can't get a high-end apartment in the desert; you *CAN* get a facility in the desert.
Anyone who hates doomsday are players who suck at the game let's be honest. My fav heist is Act 3 coz i like challenges instead of boring ass Cayo Perico.
I don't mind the doomsday scenario heist, the payout is decent and the mission is fun. the only setup i hate is escort ULP, the rest are just setups. not fun or offensively bad, just boring as setups usually are. Acts 1 and 2 are just lame.
i like the concept of the heist but the payout should have been a lot higher considering you just saved the world basically mission wise they are not too difficult except avenger setup, that one can go screw itself
I personally like the Doomsday finales and some missions. It really gives you a sense of challenge that you won't find in casino or cayo perico. I mean, once you know the way you just mindless run and take whatever you're there to take. No enemies confronting you in a menacing way, just positioned npcs easy to take down. In the doomsday heist you can't run like crazy like that, if expose yourself a little it's over. That's why i like it, just not with inexperienced randoms.
Same here. I don’t like to meticulously wait for a guard to pass by, or be extremely limited by my weapon choices. I’d rather run and gun vs 10 juggernauts simultaneously with aim bot
Tbh I absolutely love the doomsday setups (most of them) bc I discovered that you can swoop into fort zancudo and cop a Lazer to use to make the mission 1000000% more fun and I got very good at using the Lazer as a result. It’s highly risky to be that dbag who goes rogue and ends up smashing into a tree but the feeling of getting like 97 kills and looking like a god among mortals is dope
@@A-G-F- you get it. That’s high IQ, big d energy, alpha sh*t lol. I ain’t gotta tell you that bc you already know Now that I’m think about it I kinda wanna hop on and do some act 3 setups and rain down hell from above lol
I remember in act 2 there was this INCREDIBLY ANNOYING mission, where agent ULP. Would. Not. Move. And I had to retry this mission like 20 times (no joke it was around that many times) before it actually didn't bug out and I could complete it... The worst part is what fixed it was to force everyone to wear specific outfits via CEO options. How does that ever change anything!? Rockstar's level of testing is just beyond the negatives..
This is a recurring GTA wide bug. Sometimes, if one player is desync'ed, none of the NPCs will move on their patrol routes or other preprogrammed movements. It's just that on heists without an escort mission this goes often ignored unless you really, really know the NPC patrol routes; like on Prison Break this can happen. If I don't see the initial guard on the roof run for the ladder early in the mission, I immediately go "DAMN IT" because I know that none of the other guards will rush out, and more importantly, the prisoner will not move. It can only be fixed by the problem player rebooting GTA, and there's no way to know who it is. (ED: They can still move with this bug, but won't follow scripting)
ED: Just saying the majority of the time the reason this happens is a player was in a lobby with a modder that broke scripts and it "sticks" with that client, desync'ing the whole game. So 'bug' is only half-right. It's a bug it impacts everyone else's game, but it's almost always the result of someone being exposed to a modder lobby.
My friends Heist got wiped like every single heist he had ready like cayo, Diamond, Doomsday and Apartment Heist got wiped so now I’m helping him do it all over again.
Bro back when I saw the trailers for this update I wasn't expecting to have the best goddamn nap of all time. Pretty big snooze fest for "the biggest update" to this game. But hey we all must make great sacrifices for merch that says Daddy on the back
It's not just the setups that are so dull and tedious, the difficulty spike for some of them is ridiculous (the avenger setup especially) Add it to something that needs an update like the original heists, some of the sell missions and Smugglers run business in general.
My theory is Avenger was still made much easier and that originally you were supposed to fight the Lazers all the way through (like if you break lock). The dialogue suggests this. If you want the ULTIMATE CHALLENGE, break lock intentionally with 4 players. The dogfight is the best in all of GTA, but it is *harsh*.
GTA online devs are great at making boring, uninspired, no-challenge filler content. That is all GTAO is. Artificial difficulty. Nothing in GTA is actually all that difficult.
Whenever I attempt the doomsday heist it's just to get refreshed & a whole lot frustrated but not for the money bcoz there's no money in it compared to Cayo perico.
I had the stupidest glitch on the barrage mission, my friend and I died on it and we restart from checkpoint and we didn't get the explosive ammo back. We had to chase the thing down across the map to the military base.
It sucks how boring this is after the first time since its arguably the biggest update we have got. Cayo doesn't count, 200 songs aren't that exciting unless you're the type to love all sorts of music or something.
Me and my friend were doing Doomsday heist loyalty and all in order bonus and made it to act 3, as we started it, it immediately failed saying "player left" or "ceo quit" or something like that, and because of that we lost the loyalty bonus and my friend actually got reimbursed by rockstar support for that but I did not, and now he refuses to even try the finale. I don't get why I always get such awful luck when it comes to trying any all in order/ loyalty bonuses for any heist with my friends.
While I agree DD could benefit from some slimming down (fewer and/or shorter preps and setups mainly. although they could remove escort ULP entirely if you ask me), on the upside DD has some of the most complex, varied, and challenging missions in the game. The Act 3 finale, in particular, is outstanding IMHO (ok, you could get rid of the long and pointless tank or barrage drive prior to the action commencing). The jug fight, battling through the corridors to the control room, fighting waves of guys while cracking some fun puzzles, the orbital cannon (easy and boring but quick), fighting to the launch silo and finally chasing down Avon in jetpacks. Simply a great mission if you ask me. Sure, pay could be better but even without the boosts, it's not chump change. Heists *ought* to be challenging. Comparing to Cayo Perico which is so trivially easy and quick and ridiculously overpaid, DD is way more fun. Even some of the setups are pretty challenging -- the avenger mission, rescue 14, rescue ULP -- just great missions.
100% agree with you. Doomsday's gameplay is far and away superior to Cayo, even if Cayo is far and away the superior money maker. Escort ULP is fun if you do it in Lazers or Lazers + Half-Track. Infinitely, infinitely more fun than doing it with the Chernobog. I recommend it to literally everyone doing this mission.
The excuse is that you can't let Avon have either vehicle. You spend time destroying the plans for the prototype designs. This has lots of plot holes though. The main one is why can't you just destroy one of them and then use personal vehicles to destroy the cargo plane for example?
Because a destroyed version of the vehicle is almost as useful to their R&D team as a functional one. Lester says as much while you're stealing the Khanjali and under fire from the missile launching choppers.
@@curtisevans8413 I know we destroyed their test sites, but Avon didn't think to outsource his designs to manufacturers? He already bought the Barrage from weapons dealers, so why didn't he outsource Merryweather to help him again? Or did Merryweather finally find out about Avon's true intentions? Besides, was Avon too cheap to just buy multiple instead of just one to study some more? It's just a buggy with two awkward turret placements.
@@troypowers750 Avon is arrogant, and he didn't become a multibillionaire without being stingy. His arrogance blinded him into only buying the one Barrage. There's also the possibility it was custom made, therefore expensive and his military is already costing him dearly just in resources. And why hire Merryweather when you have clones that don't require paying, don't have morals, and don't have attachments like families? That's far cheaper.
I'll just say that all of Act I & II setups (except Submarine Recon) & one Act III setup (Rescue Agent 14) are horrendous to complete imo. The rest are fun enough & their standard payouts are good compared to OG Heist setups. However the Doomsday's Heists as a whole is still plagued with bugs that R* introduced in a following update & annoyingly never bothered to fix, such as the notorious "CEO has quit" bug, inability to quick restart & the Avenger's broken autopilot in Act II finale...etc.
I wiped the Doomsday Heists from my memory after getting the trophies for all Mastermind and Elite challenges. Waste of time combined with enemies who melt you despite armor and snacking.
The issues is that all of the Doomsday Heist Preps and Setups are nothing but overly elaborate advertisements for vehicles they want to sell you and really really are useless outside them.
Yes, some missions are boring, but other than Chernobog and Khanjali, DDH is still my favorite content in the game. I had A LOT of joy doing all three Criminal Mastermid challenges. You actually needed to be careful and work as a team to pull it out. Compare it to the Casino and Perico, where you need to shoot yourself in the foot first to make it hard.
It makes me sad how many people here are going "worst mission everrz" because it's difficult. I want more difficult heists. The only missions this hard pay like $15k otherwise and NOBODY plays them (like Gerald's missions)
@@BlazingOwnager I don't think it's because it's difficult. Many people enjoy Act 3 finale, even tho it's difficult and stressfull. Let's be honest, DDH preps are VERY boring. And it's not even worth it. I really want them to make rogue-like heist. Like, you crawl to the big tower, and every next floor is more difficult than the other.
i only have 3 problems with the heist: rapid fire bug can happen ANYtime, even on valkyrie miniguns in the chernobog setup (instantly kills a vigilante) that stupid bug where cmm progress randomly gets reset for no reason at all during act 1 when u start the finale. not being able to solo the heist.
I HIGHLY disagree with pretty much the entire video. I really like the doomsday heist and I did one a couple of days ago with some lower lvl friends while we could just do a cayo perico because I wanted to mix things up and it was really fun. And their is a reason why you steal both the barrage and kanjali and you would know if you payed the slightest bit of attention to the story
On the biker MC missions the one where you have to save the victim from the O'Neil farm the victim is always invisible and the guard happens every time
Wow you say Cayo Perico has anything good about it? I’ve heard gtamen trash talk it for so long, I forgot content creators could have a good opinion about things besides “ it’s boring because I make it boring”
only reason i did doomsday senario is because i love the shoot out in the server room. but since they added the room to survival i been playing that instead
If you want a major reason to complain about Doomsday, the fact that all the voiceover lines were broken by Casino is a good one. The radio will do things like "Destroy all the ." then "Got One." "That's two!" "That's three!" right back to back. It used to work, once upon a time...
I have a tip for everyone struggling with the Escort ULP Setup. If you go to Fort Zancudo you can get a Laser Jet and shoot down most of the helicopters that are attacking ULP in the air. I did this and it works really well. I will agree the Doomsday Heist is so outdated.
@@Combat-Awareness Yeah that can help too, but be warned if you somehow die during the escort your personal vehicle doesn't come back. For whatever reason it disappears and there is no way to call it back.
Finally someone said it! I mean out of all the Heists Rockstar Released this is by far the WORST one they did. I mean seriously its so painful to do. You have to do prep missions before you even do the Setup missions. You still have to have people play with you to complete those setup missions. The heists themselves they just are not that fun to do. The moment when someone dies or disconnects its considered a failure and you're forced to Restart the mission or even worse get kicked back into freemode. By that point you're just done at that point because it takes so damn long to even start the mission again. I completed Act 3 Finale of the Doomsday Heist after a long 9 painful months and I am NEVER EVER touching it again. Thank god Rockstar finally realized this was so badly designed so they made sure to make the future Heists (Casino Heist and Cayo Perico) actually fun and not have you do all of these painful requirements that the old Heists like Doomsday did.
Which payouts had an increase? I got the email about a limited time payout increase and did receive it in some sales, but everything else seems just like before the update.
It's insane how garbage and repetitive GTA Online feels considering how many updates its recieved . The entire game has the most outdated movement, shooting and driving mechanics are just abysmal.
That's because there's so many great ways to make money in this game, it blows my mind people still do money glitches. But if you like having fake money and multiple banned accounts, sure
@@AlexT0210 I’ve never had a banned account my guy lol. I’ll stick with making 500 million in a couple hours rather than grinding cayo for the 5273892 millionth time 😂
@@curtisevans8413 not sure about pc but I don’t see why not. I know for sure all gen Xbox and PlayStation. Check out high guy gaming channel. The glitch I use is still working, posted about a month ago. Lmk if you end up trying or have any question. Glitch only takes 5-10 minutes, wouldn’t hurt to try it out yourself with a cheap car
@@curtisevans8413 also how the glitch works is you can buy any cars you want, as many as you want before they get deleivered. Anything except Pegasus. To buy multiple, once it says sold double click o (PlayStation) and just buy others. Can even switch between websites just don’t exit the internet on your phone. Buy as many as you can before they get delivered (3 minutes) or if you want money buy 10-15 deluxos to sell. I filled up every single garage with deluxos in an hour or two
The Doomsday Heist is an absolute disaster when it comes to the gameplay itself but for some reason... even when it's unrealistic and some sorta childish, I kinda liked the lore and story behind it. A private russian militia which wants to stop you to create an unethical A.I. The A.I. goes total ham and wants to bring humanity into a nuclear war. It gave the boring shit some kinda meaning.
I never did any of the Doomsday heist preps and the finale itself, except for the first prep mission, but I’ve seen videos about how hard it is to complete this heist. IMO, escort ULP, and the one mission with the Avenger are next impossible to complete. Worst missions Rockstar has ever designed. Especially when you have one, or a bunch randoms that either don’t know what they’re doing, or just refuse to listen to you as a heist leader. I wonder if it was the same designer at Rockstar who made the Post Op sell mission got a divorce with their wife and made the majority of these Doomsday missions very hard to complete. I’m glad I skipped doing the Doomsday heist, but I feel bad for those who suffered through it. The Clifford clothing are not worth it just like the Halloween t-shirt.
>Worst missions Rockstar has ever designed. It always frustrates me when someone decides a difficult mission that's perfectly beatable is "terrible" because it's actually difficult. It keeps more difficult missions from being added to the game, and we desperately need more of them. Just do it with 2 people, it's not that hard.
Sometimes it can be boring, it definitely has flow & design problems, but imho it's still the hardest heist and the doomsday cmm accomp says something about players...ofc if they've managed to complete it without cheating. Some of those friends are the best and most dedicated players I know.
One day I'll get CMM2. I have 3 & 4 but my partners keep dying in 2. One rage quit the game for six months after being sniped in the last 10 minutes of the Act 3 finale.
@@BlazingOwnager Haha, I've completed my 1st dd cmm2 with a half drunk friend on the 1st try. :D We had it figured out already too, done 3 and 4 before.
From the comments I am realizing there are two kinds of players: Type A: Played Doomsday, got killed repeatedly, decided they hate it and want an easier way to farm money like Cayo Type B: Players who went for the CMM challenges, discovered all the mission tricks, and love Doomsday for the ass kicking difficulty, teamwork and flexibility
Biggest change would be to make these 1-4 players. Same for the old heists. That 4 players restriction even for some easy preps like steal prison bus is stupid af.
4 Player Deliver EMP: Mo People, Mo Problems
I can do it solo in about 90 seconds after arriving at the compound but there's always some joker throwing explosives or shooting people in sight of guards..
Purgatory is real and it's the Deliver EMP mission
I love how most complaints people have ovet the og heists is because they do it with randoms. Og heists are the most fun content in gta with 3 friends
@@pirata2027Good luck finding 3 decent players, though
I agree! I HATE some of the setup missions when doing the Doomsday Heist. Most of them are so long, tedious and sometimes so boring. Even the Avenger Setup Missions is like HARDER than the actual Act 2 Bodgan Heist which mind you is the Easiest one.
And why can’t we use our own Avenger
@@flux3238 DEADASS
The avenger missions is the most unfair shit I've ever played on gta online, it's worse than those normal missions where you have endless amounts of enemies chasing and shooting you at the same time. They should've just added the option for us to use thermal goggles because how the hell am i suppose to fight god knows how much enemies inside a giant hangar in the dark, where everything is shooting at my direction and they're all wearing black clothes?
I did the avenger setup today first try with 0 deaths. Super easy with thermal scope
@@jonesdovick6954 you can use thermal scope on heavy sniper mk2
I feel like you forgot the “Your CEO Quit” bug. It is literally impossible to complete the criminal mastermind challenge for the Doomsday Heist.
Its not impossible just say you haven't done it
@@originaldelta part of the challenge is not quick restarting. With this bug you have to quick restart to continue playing. Meaning it’s impossible to complete for people who haven’t done it.
Or you know, it just resets on it's own on random. This happened to me with my friends and we just thought that, if the game randomly can reset the whole thing we just gave up.
@@O4ZZ as long as no one dies and the awards are in sync youre fine
@@O4ZZ this bug achievement hunter/ Let's Play when they attempted to do the challenge
The Snoozeday Heist
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LOLOLOL GOOD ONE!!!! MADE ME LAUGH
U still blow yourself up when destroying the weapons crates
I laughed at this for days on end
This is what I remember about Doomsday heists the most. Overall I was actually enjoying Doomsday heists when they came out but I noticed that every single act has at least 1 mission that's so boring and annoying that it demotivates me to play the heist. In act 1 it was the Deluxo prep mission. In act 2 I hated the firefighter mission the most I believe and in act 3 Chernobog mission is pure pain. Doomsday is in my opinion combination of one of the most fun and challenging missions with one of the worst missions at the same time.
And the finale is also wayyyy too hard imo
@@SadMatte Nah, the fact it's a challenge is why I love the heist and want way more things of it's difficulty level.
The firefighter mission isn't bad on Act 2. The trick there, well, two tricks: Any guards on the roof are Snipers, and have their Accuracy rating turned up. Take them out at all costs before you get out of the vehicle; they are not like the other respawning NPCs. Second, use the RCV for bullet cover. The thing is a mobile wall. If the driver is on point, they can keep the recovery team from breaking a nail. It's actually really fun when played correctly.
Exactly. Act 3 would've been my favorite if not for the chernobog mission. Also i love the challenge aswell. Things like cayo are just so mind numbingly easy if you play it the way it was intended (Stealth)
I hated the chernobog mission, so terrible
My main complaint with heist preps and setups is getting stuff that you wont be using, like the 4 Deluxos for Act 1, or the 4 Strombergs for Act 2, or the 2 cars for the Casino Heist.
I wish you were able to grab a minimum amount of whatever you have to grab for 2 players, (so 2 Deluxos/Strombergs or 1 Casino car, 1 weapons bag etc would be the minimum for a 2 player team).
Having to get enough for 4 players is just dumb and annoying when you usually dont even have 3 players let alone 4, its specially bad if you do the preps solo, this is why I dont bother doing the Casino Heist or Doomsday without buying preps, its just tedious.
Otherwise most Doomsday Heist setups/finales (apart from a few) are the most fun I have on this game
The whole GTA Online is based on make things harder than they should and low payout.
i just buy the deluxo prep lol. these's also a glitch with which you can buy setups while buying preps. So you can go straight to the finale and make 700k every 48 min 😂
You probably also had fun purchasing GTA+, but that's my assumption.
@@NFSBeast2365 ?
This is honestly facts. If you steal one car just limit the amount of people you can take on the mission. Such an easy fix. And with deliveries (Mc) theres an option to put it in one truck... if im solo just spawn the truck smh. Instead of rewarding players for co op they get punished and it makes no sense
Every time when I TRY to complete the Doomsday Heist someone disconnects and we are FORCED to start all the way over from the beginning because the game kicks us out into freemode. This would not be so annoying if they would just add a Spectate system.
I feel like the classic heists and doomsday heists need a overhaul. If they made the the classic heists similar to the casino heist setup wise that would be awesome
Yeah I agree, but that would require them to completely restart from scratch and redesign the OG heists all over again. Classic heists were designed with the idea of 4 players, it’s just too much work to fix it.
@@AgentE1Games True. Just sucks because the classic heists are pretty interesting imo. Especially pac standard. It always feels cool asf to rob the big bank lol
@@AgentE1Games Not really you can take away code and it would improve eg have a npc in the velum during prison break and on Pacific standard that very easy fleeca is already 2 player but you can change it to 4 player humane labs also quite easy replace some roles with npcs and it's a lot easier to run because of the less code hence less inputs
I disagree, I find the setups for the classic heists way more fun than the casino heist preps.
@@dylanconnolly2665 it’s not that simple. You can’t just use NPCs in place of players (of which would already require a ton of work and break a bunch of other parts of the heist.) there’s also some voice lines that would have to be taken out and or changed, also less Code doesn’t change much… What are you on about? Lol
to be fair doomsday heist should be the highest paying hit.
Sometimes wish I had people to do some of these heists even if just for the current heist bonus stuff, seeing how tedious this one is again makes me kind of glad I don't need to do this one.
Are you on PlayStation? I'd help you
@@c.fyffe0 Thanks for the offer, I'm on PS5. I tried to start with Fleeca heist, but no randoms joined. I used to do Bogdan and stuff with friends when they were around. Got a somewhat new character setup. If you do help me know I ain't to good at surviving or shooting, also in Australia so a bit of time difference maybe.
@@YdaxraTala I'm still on last gen and live in the USA I'm sure we can figure something out lol
One thing I will say with Doomsday and Player Choice - it's actually ironically *MORE* flexible to player choice than Casino even. It's just that it doesn't actually tell you the things you can do on missions, or even really intended on them - there's less rails to stop you from doing it. Like for example on Server Farms, did you know you can kill everyone in the parking lot and wire it with sticky bombs, then also wire the elevator area with sticky bombs? If your team does that you can wipe out the entire parking lot and the central defenders in one click. The heist is littered with stuff like this, it's just not obvious. Or the 50 different methods you can use on the otherwise terrible act 2 finale..
There’s a big difference between intentional design choices and accidental ones. Rockstar has always been in the business of railroading players as much as they can inside the missions. NakeyJakey made a great video on this exact thing. So while it’s nice that you can do those methods to save time, it is absolutely not what the developers intended and designed the mission around
While I agree the setups are unnecessarily long, the reason you steal both is to prevent Avon from arming himself with better weapons, you steal both so he won’t reproduce them, and so you can sell one of the cars.
A lot of the dialogue leads me to believe there were last minute changes to the heist to make it easier. Like the long flight on Avenger after you recover it they keep talking about how "Merryweather's still after you?!" when there's not a plane in the sky. If you purposely break the lock, then you have a hellish dogfight on your hands that IS winnable, but amazingly hard.
He can just buy them online
And it’s almost impossible completing with randoms
Unfortunately, this is my favorite heist in GTA Online. No I don't care about the rewards and the cash, I care more about the gameplay. You may call me boring because I enjoy boring missions. I felt like they were the most unique and had a very nice story (yes I'm aware that GTA is not supposed to be a game where you save the world but I can't help how much I loved this heist). I liked the challenging missions that doomsday heist had and how much harder it is. It's harder than today's missions like the contracts, they are easy and don't bring much challenge. But I get it on the other side why you would hate it. To be honest I would fall asleep from this missions if I want to do it for the hoodie but replaying the whole heist is hella fun.
Everyone has their own opinion. I like most heists besides act 2 and cayo perico. The problem with the community is that everyone is a grinder. They only play this game to make money they dont do it for fun.
@@pirata2027 I mean yeah you are right. It's unfortunate it's only for grinding but I understand since everything is inflated hella a lot
@@TalonSolid yeah i understand starters need to make money. But judging content based on if it makes money or not is stupid imo cause theres no longevity in that. Eventually people make enough money. It should be judged fun wise first. I think casino heist did this the best. The perfect mix of payout+fun+freedom
@@pirata2027 Ppl who complain about these heists would probably grind Cayo or did glitches and haven’t really grinded hard enough for money like the og or clean players. I remember stacking thousand by thousand to buy a facility and being able to earn a million from a single heist finale was absurd to me. I’ve always urged my friends to not do glitches or grind Cayo as it takes out the fun of the game and treat it as a job and feel bored when they own everything in the game.
I would rather all of this over doing deliver EMP with randoms. That mission drove me insane
All for Clifford clothings😭
There is a reason to take both the Barrage and Khanjali - so that Clifford can't use either! Anyway, I totally agree with you about setups, however the act 3 finale is my favorite mission.
The prep missions are too long, but I do like the challenge of the rescue agent 14 and Khanjali missions. Remember you get major discounts on some very cool vehicles as well while ALL of the Perico vehicles are garbage. Payouts are definitely too low, although in 2 player mode the finale isn't bad with the bonus.
Are you serious? The sparrow is one of the most useful helis in the game, especially early on. Sure it's not great in pvp but it makes cayo perico a breeze, and is a fantastic mode of transportation.
The sea version that's been out years before it is better@@cacomelon4768
I did it once and I won’t do it again even with double money lmao
I recently ran through all 3 Doomsday acts with a buddy and at the end I got the Xbox 'rare' diamond achievements for each one, Bogdan was the 'highest' player percentage at 6% of all players playing GTA finishing it (and we all know why that is) but act 1 and 3 both had less than 5% of players finishing it, which seems like a waste of harddrive and data use to have a group of missions that barely anyone does, then again that is a very common theme with GTA, a game with thousands of missions/activities and barely any player count because people would rather run a Cayo to get money and then spend the rest of their time griefing in Freemode
The act 3 just feels like it ain’t worth doing, it takes long to setup especially with randoms and the finally doesn’t pay well. The casino pays more and is easier they need to revamp it at least the payout
If you want to make the Act 3 Finale more interesting, get a notepad and keep track of how many times everyone died, your friends will hate it.
Another thing to add to the list: 4-player Criminal Mastermind pays out $3.75 million but 2-player only pays out $750k. You'd think the less players, the higher the award but it's reversed. I feel like 4-player should stay at $3.75 million, 3-player should go up to $7.75 million and 2-player should be over $10 million since the missions are already hard enough as it is even with 4 players so 2 players should be rewarded more since they are losing their sanity to get a trophy/achievement saying they did the 3 hardest challenges possible.
The same can somewhat be said about the Casino Heist. Still a great heist, mind you, but it would be vastly improved if it could be done solo.
A few changes like only needing to steal one 4-door getaway vehicle and being able to pick more than just one part of the objective during prep missions. Making 2 trips bugs the hell out of me.
Lastly, drop the need for 2 key cards to 1. I'd rather be encouraged to play with other people, not forced.
Oh, and as a bonus, use the same mechanic as Cayo of having a random guard holding a key to a separate entrance. Except in the Casino Heist, this guard will have 3rd level clearance to cages within the vault
The doomsday heists are not outdated but too tedious and the pay is too low. They should increase the payout by at least 3 times, especially act 3. Spend almost 30 mins to complete and only pay 2.2mil. It should be at least 6.5mil.
the sad thing for the ULP escort mission is that with the Minigun Tampa you can protect the S-300 better than with the ramp buggies as well as shoot down the Valks with it as well... but some vics / helis could really use a few MKII versions like the Akula, the Scarab as well as the Conada as a weaponised MKII upgrade...
It really sucks because Rockstar clearly made all these choices to sell more shark cards. If they made the content more engaging, fun and balanced, then the reason for buying shark cards wouldn’t be “so I don’t have to slog through everything”. It’s a big reason why I quit the game a few years ago. The content isn’t there for long term players to engage with and you find out it’s a shallow experience designed to get you to spend
I almost punched my cousin in his face when he asked me to do the heist with him
Yeah the Cayo Perico preps can be done so easily once I did the cutting torch in 2,5 MINUTES
5:08 Its because you are stealing the wehicles so clifford can't use it against you. Thats what lester says during the setup.
I was just about to say that... It's a shame you only get a piddly 50k for the Barrage afterwards and that's only for the host.
Still a silly reason to must make us steal multiple vehicles to only use one imo.
@@GhillieMaster If we were allowed to use both and/or got a meaningful bonus for any vehicle(s) we left behind then I'd be slightly less irritated. But I will say I don't like the idea of the Cliffford clones having an ATV that has a grenade launcher and a .50 cal turret or a stealth tank that has a railgun, .50 cal turret and grenade launchers. You know what though? I'd rather steal both, leave them behind, get the cash bonus for both and go in with an armoured Kuruma, it's not like any of them have explosives on the Act III Finale.
As you mentioned the MC selling missions. I think that these are the worst missions in the game by design. When they came out you had to do them in a public lobby and all R* came up with for a business battle against other players was to give you slow as hell vehicles and mark them as a target on everyone else's map. The idea probably was that you do it with friends and fill up the MC with randoms to protect the cargo, but if you get 4 vehicles the majority of your group can't defend you.
And now were every sane person does their missions in a private lobby, they are just boring.
The problem with many missions mentioned is they are 'test drive' missions, where the point is to get the players to try out some new vehicle, hoping they will purchase it later. Notice how the NPCs always take their time talking about the cool features of the vehicle you're driving, exactly like a salesman during an IRL test drive. Rockstar loved having missions like this years ago (see MOC missions, special vehicle work, OG heist preps).
At least with MOC and special vehicle, the missions were small and standalone. You do them once and then you're basically done with them. But these Doomsday ones are required to do every time you play this heist.
Only requiring the player to steal the Barrage or Khanjali is a great idea to speed things up for Act 3.
Besides the set ups for the first mission I've never done Bogdan. And the only reason I did that was because there was a glitch during the mission to put F1 wheels on my RC tank.
I did the Bogdan Problem Heist with randoms just to get the Clifford Varsity and what we did was someone had the Toreador and I joined in and we went underwater and stayed there the entire time and do nothing just to wait for the other player/s to finish the submarine part and pick the player/s up in the Toreador underwater and get in the Avenger take out the enemies in choppers and go to the hanger at LSIA and we finished it in under 15 minutes.
That's basically also perico in a nutshell exchanging a few words
only act 1 is somewhat decent. act 2 and 3 are outdated with shitty preps like avenger, RCV, escort ULP etc.
In the old days the method was to sit out there in a Dodo, then fly everyone to the Avenger straight from the water. The helicopters are zero threat to the vehicle if there's nobody manning it, and won't even spawn if you avoid it.
@@Diabepis lol Avenger and RCV aren't 'outdated shitty preps,' they are just difficult if you don't know how to play.
Most heists are designed for babies it seems like by comparison.
Only way i can have some fun doing the ulp escort missions is by just stealing a Lazer from the military base and use it to blow up all the helicopter, honestly that chernobog sucks massive ass.
Escort ULP defined in two words: "Fun sucker"
Unfortunately the guns on the bombushka and volatol will never be fixed, because Rockstar
The only reason to play doomsday is because of act 2 finale reset glitch lol
definitely a necessary video . rockstar should revisit old heists and jobs , because they just become pointless
Instead of fixing old heists, Rockstar adds CDs on Cayo Perico...
Worst thing about Escort ULP? All you need to do is drive the Chernobog to the initial objective.
After that, you can abandon it and just use whatever Personal Vehicle you brought along.
Said it many times im the comments section but Half-Track and Lazers is where this heist is at. (The military base is fully spawning on this one)
To be fair, you did get 15 job points at the end there.
Doomsday heist was meant to be singlplayer dlc.
My biggest complaints with doomsday is that most of the heist is literally endless driving from the city to the desert with most mission drop off points being at the desert so it’s just endless driving for the most part. Also the fact that the heist has you do both setup missions and prep missions which completely slow down the whole heist entirely having to go from doing what’s essentially heist setups in free mode to doing another heist setup but in a seperate lobby made worse when you have to collect 4 vehicles sometimes even when you aren’t gonna do the heist with 4 people. To me the mission structures of all the setup missions(with the exception of escort ULP) aren’t really bad. It’s just killed and ruined with the constant driving back and forth from desert and city. To me I’ve always considered the doomsday heist as a whole as more of GTAs version of an Endgame/ dark souls style difficulty type of experience and I want it to stay that way with some missions structure changes mainly the spawns and drop off points like you said. Also buffing it’s pay by a lot and making it the best paying heist for all the things you gotta do making it more of a dark souls challenging type of heist would make it more of a reason to be played and would give players the high reward for playing it over the other heists and wouldn’t take away from players who would still want to do the cayo or casino heist for its simplicity. So to sum it all up the heist needs spawn and drop off changes for its setups and preps(wish preps never existed to begin with). Let us collect how many vehicles depending on how many players we will have on the team or vehicles we will use. And buff the pay for finales to make it worth putting the time and effort into doing all the preps setups and overall work doing the heist.
>My biggest complaints with doomsday is that most of the heist is literally endless driving from the city to the desert with most mission drop off points being at the desert so it’s just endless driving for the most part.
OG Heists are far more guilty of this. Far, far more. Because you can't get a high-end apartment in the desert; you *CAN* get a facility in the desert.
So.. who else hosts these heists and somehow NOT get their full cut after completing the finale? Just me??
Anyone who hates doomsday are players who suck at the game let's be honest. My fav heist is Act 3 coz i like challenges instead of boring ass Cayo Perico.
I don't mind the doomsday scenario heist, the payout is decent and the mission is fun. the only setup i hate is escort ULP, the rest are just setups. not fun or offensively bad, just boring as setups usually are. Acts 1 and 2 are just lame.
i like the concept of the heist but the payout should have been a lot higher considering you just saved the world basically
mission wise they are not too difficult except avenger setup, that one can go screw itself
I think the best way to realize how boring DDH is is to watch Viper's video on it, it has it all.
I personally like the Doomsday finales and some missions. It really gives you a sense of challenge that you won't find in casino or cayo perico. I mean, once you know the way you just mindless run and take whatever you're there to take. No enemies confronting you in a menacing way, just positioned npcs easy to take down. In the doomsday heist you can't run like crazy like that, if expose yourself a little it's over. That's why i like it, just not with inexperienced randoms.
Same here. I don’t like to meticulously wait for a guard to pass by, or be extremely limited by my weapon choices. I’d rather run and gun vs 10 juggernauts simultaneously with aim bot
The worst thing about these heists is that they loop the same track for EVERY SINGLE MISSION
My friend fall asleep and I have to do every set up mission my self 😭
Tbh I absolutely love the doomsday setups (most of them) bc I discovered that you can swoop into fort zancudo and cop a Lazer to use to make the mission 1000000% more fun and I got very good at using the Lazer as a result. It’s highly risky to be that dbag who goes rogue and ends up smashing into a tree but the feeling of getting like 97 kills and looking like a god among mortals is dope
Fr, thats how i play these
@@A-G-F- you get it. That’s high IQ, big d energy, alpha sh*t lol. I ain’t gotta tell you that bc you already know
Now that I’m think about it I kinda wanna hop on and do some act 3 setups and rain down hell from above lol
I remember in act 2 there was this INCREDIBLY ANNOYING mission, where agent ULP. Would. Not. Move. And I had to retry this mission like 20 times (no joke it was around that many times) before it actually didn't bug out and I could complete it... The worst part is what fixed it was to force everyone to wear specific outfits via CEO options. How does that ever change anything!?
Rockstar's level of testing is just beyond the negatives..
This is a recurring GTA wide bug. Sometimes, if one player is desync'ed, none of the NPCs will move on their patrol routes or other preprogrammed movements. It's just that on heists without an escort mission this goes often ignored unless you really, really know the NPC patrol routes; like on Prison Break this can happen. If I don't see the initial guard on the roof run for the ladder early in the mission, I immediately go "DAMN IT" because I know that none of the other guards will rush out, and more importantly, the prisoner will not move. It can only be fixed by the problem player rebooting GTA, and there's no way to know who it is. (ED: They can still move with this bug, but won't follow scripting)
ED: Just saying the majority of the time the reason this happens is a player was in a lobby with a modder that broke scripts and it "sticks" with that client, desync'ing the whole game. So 'bug' is only half-right. It's a bug it impacts everyone else's game, but it's almost always the result of someone being exposed to a modder lobby.
My friends Heist got wiped like every single heist he had ready like cayo, Diamond, Doomsday and Apartment Heist got wiped so now I’m helping him do it all over again.
The chernobog setup ☠️
Bro back when I saw the trailers for this update I wasn't expecting to have the best goddamn nap of all time. Pretty big snooze fest for "the biggest update" to this game. But hey we all must make great sacrifices for merch that says Daddy on the back
It's not just the setups that are so dull and tedious, the difficulty spike for some of them is ridiculous (the avenger setup especially)
Add it to something that needs an update like the original heists, some of the sell missions and Smugglers run business in general.
Ye the spilt between difficulty rescue ULP and the avenger heist is so hard and it's next to a bunch of really easy missions
My theory is Avenger was still made much easier and that originally you were supposed to fight the Lazers all the way through (like if you break lock). The dialogue suggests this.
If you want the ULTIMATE CHALLENGE, break lock intentionally with 4 players. The dogfight is the best in all of GTA, but it is *harsh*.
GTA online devs are great at making boring, uninspired, no-challenge filler content. That is all GTAO is. Artificial difficulty. Nothing in GTA is actually all that difficult.
Whenever I attempt the doomsday heist it's just to get refreshed & a whole lot frustrated but not for the money bcoz there's no money in it compared to Cayo perico.
I had the stupidest glitch on the barrage mission, my friend and I died on it and we restart from checkpoint and we didn't get the explosive ammo back. We had to chase the thing down across the map to the military base.
It sucks how boring this is after the first time since its arguably the biggest update we have got. Cayo doesn't count, 200 songs aren't that exciting unless you're the type to love all sorts of music or something.
Me and my friend were doing Doomsday heist loyalty and all in order bonus and made it to act 3, as we started it, it immediately failed saying "player left" or "ceo quit" or something like that, and because of that we lost the loyalty bonus and my friend actually got reimbursed by rockstar support for that but I did not, and now he refuses to even try the finale. I don't get why I always get such awful luck when it comes to trying any all in order/ loyalty bonuses for any heist with my friends.
I played doomsday like 9 months ago i still regret buying a facility first thing i bought
While I agree DD could benefit from some slimming down (fewer and/or shorter preps and setups mainly. although they could remove escort ULP entirely if you ask me), on the upside DD has some of the most complex, varied, and challenging missions in the game. The Act 3 finale, in particular, is outstanding IMHO (ok, you could get rid of the long and pointless tank or barrage drive prior to the action commencing). The jug fight, battling through the corridors to the control room, fighting waves of guys while cracking some fun puzzles, the orbital cannon (easy and boring but quick), fighting to the launch silo and finally chasing down Avon in jetpacks. Simply a great mission if you ask me. Sure, pay could be better but even without the boosts, it's not chump change. Heists *ought* to be challenging. Comparing to Cayo Perico which is so trivially easy and quick and ridiculously overpaid, DD is way more fun. Even some of the setups are pretty challenging -- the avenger mission, rescue 14, rescue ULP -- just great missions.
100% agree with you. Doomsday's gameplay is far and away superior to Cayo, even if Cayo is far and away the superior money maker.
Escort ULP is fun if you do it in Lazers or Lazers + Half-Track. Infinitely, infinitely more fun than doing it with the Chernobog. I recommend it to literally everyone doing this mission.
The excuse is that you can't let Avon have either vehicle. You spend time destroying the plans for the prototype designs. This has lots of plot holes though. The main one is why can't you just destroy one of them and then use personal vehicles to destroy the cargo plane for example?
Because a destroyed version of the vehicle is almost as useful to their R&D team as a functional one. Lester says as much while you're stealing the Khanjali and under fire from the missile launching choppers.
@@curtisevans8413 yeah, but they seriously don't have archived plans for the prototype design from Cliffford himself?
@@troypowers750 Realistically? Yes. In game? We destroyed that. Plus we kill Cliffford anyway.
@@curtisevans8413 I know we destroyed their test sites, but Avon didn't think to outsource his designs to manufacturers? He already bought the Barrage from weapons dealers, so why didn't he outsource Merryweather to help him again? Or did Merryweather finally find out about Avon's true intentions? Besides, was Avon too cheap to just buy multiple instead of just one to study some more? It's just a buggy with two awkward turret placements.
@@troypowers750 Avon is arrogant, and he didn't become a multibillionaire without being stingy. His arrogance blinded him into only buying the one Barrage. There's also the possibility it was custom made, therefore expensive and his military is already costing him dearly just in resources. And why hire Merryweather when you have clones that don't require paying, don't have morals, and don't have attachments like families? That's far cheaper.
DUDE YOU DONT EVEN STEAL ANYTHING holy shit the fucking tandem bike and over and over and over part is cracking me UP
I'll just say that all of Act I & II setups (except Submarine Recon) & one Act III setup (Rescue Agent 14) are horrendous to complete imo. The rest are fun enough & their standard payouts are good compared to OG Heist setups.
However the Doomsday's Heists as a whole is still plagued with bugs that R* introduced in a following update & annoyingly never bothered to fix, such as the notorious "CEO has quit" bug, inability to quick restart & the Avenger's broken autopilot in Act II finale...etc.
The "full auto enemy bug," bullet sponge enemies, and not a big enough payout is why I haven't played them since the casino heist and cayo released.
Full auto enemy bug is a graphical glitch. It happens in other missions too. It's not actually making the enemies fire full auto endlessly.
I wiped the Doomsday Heists from my memory after getting the trophies for all Mastermind and Elite challenges. Waste of time combined with enemies who melt you despite armor and snacking.
Doomsday Heist is the hardest DLC
The issues is that all of the Doomsday Heist Preps and Setups are nothing but overly elaborate advertisements for vehicles they want to sell you and really really are useless outside them.
I played act 3 with my friend recently and from my experience, I'll prob never touch it again lol
Yes, some missions are boring, but other than Chernobog and Khanjali, DDH is still my favorite content in the game. I had A LOT of joy doing all three Criminal Mastermid challenges. You actually needed to be careful and work as a team to pull it out. Compare it to the Casino and Perico, where you need to shoot yourself in the foot first to make it hard.
It makes me sad how many people here are going "worst mission everrz" because it's difficult.
I want more difficult heists. The only missions this hard pay like $15k otherwise and NOBODY plays them (like Gerald's missions)
@@BlazingOwnager I don't think it's because it's difficult. Many people enjoy Act 3 finale, even tho it's difficult and stressfull. Let's be honest, DDH preps are VERY boring. And it's not even worth it.
I really want them to make rogue-like heist. Like, you crawl to the big tower, and every next floor is more difficult than the other.
Dude i got to be honest with you at this point.
I love you
*clicking noises*
At least the soundtrack is a bop.
True
i only have 3 problems with the heist: rapid fire bug can happen ANYtime, even on valkyrie miniguns in the chernobog setup (instantly kills a vigilante)
that stupid bug where cmm progress randomly gets reset for no reason at all during act 1 when u start the finale.
not being able to solo the heist.
I mostly agree but the one thing is regarding the two vehicles, the real reason we got them was to deny them from Cliffford getting them
I HIGHLY disagree with pretty much the entire video. I really like the doomsday heist and I did one a couple of days ago with some lower lvl friends while we could just do a cayo perico because I wanted to mix things up and it was really fun.
And their is a reason why you steal both the barrage and kanjali and you would know if you payed the slightest bit of attention to the story
Bogdan skip setup glitch is still the best way of making money in this game🤷♂️
Uhh... Will you cover the apartment heists if they also get boosted??
I mean it's not so bad if you just do the pay to skip setups glitch
On the biker MC missions the one where you have to save the victim from the O'Neil farm the victim is always invisible and the guard happens every time
I hate how you need 4 people for the setups but can do the finale with 2
No you don’t
@@fnvymatt yes you do
Wow you say Cayo Perico has anything good about it? I’ve heard gtamen trash talk it for so long, I forgot content creators could have a good opinion about things besides “ it’s boring because I make it boring”
The way Cayo Perico's prep missions take place is the best implementation. Gives the player the most freedom to choose what they want to do.
I decided to replay the doomsday heist before the bonus gift. So now i have to replay it AGAIN.
only reason i did doomsday senario is because i love the shoot out in the server room. but since they added the room to survival i been playing that instead
If you want a major reason to complain about Doomsday, the fact that all the voiceover lines were broken by Casino is a good one.
The radio will do things like "Destroy all the ." then "Got One." "That's two!" "That's three!" right back to back. It used to work, once upon a time...
I have a tip for everyone struggling with the Escort ULP Setup. If you go to Fort Zancudo you can get a Laser Jet and shoot down most of the helicopters that are attacking ULP in the air. I did this and it works really well. I will agree the Doomsday Heist is so outdated.
Or get a toreador
@@Combat-Awareness Yeah that can help too, but be warned if you somehow die during the escort your personal vehicle doesn't come back. For whatever reason it disappears and there is no way to call it back.
Finally someone said it! I mean out of all the Heists Rockstar Released this is by far the WORST one they did. I mean seriously its so painful to do. You have to do prep missions before you even do the Setup missions. You still have to have people play with you to complete those setup missions. The heists themselves they just are not that fun to do. The moment when someone dies or disconnects its considered a failure and you're forced to Restart the mission or even worse get kicked back into freemode. By that point you're just done at that point because it takes so damn long to even start the mission again.
I completed Act 3 Finale of the Doomsday Heist after a long 9 painful months and I am NEVER EVER touching it again. Thank god Rockstar finally realized this was so badly designed so they made sure to make the future Heists (Casino Heist and Cayo Perico) actually fun and not have you do all of these painful requirements that the old Heists like Doomsday did.
Cayo is not fun bro...unless you're a low level noob.
Its boring and too easy
@@originaldelta Oh shut up. You're just mad because you suck at the game.
@@iamjohnporter67 youre the one complaining about act 3...I've done it hundreds of times
@@originaldeltabro doomsday is really fucking boring I'm like the best doomsday player lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Which payouts had an increase? I got the email about a limited time payout increase and did receive it in some sales, but everything else seems just like before the update.
I agree, the set ups are time consuming and everyone fcks up at the end heist
It's insane how garbage and repetitive GTA Online feels considering how many updates its recieved . The entire game has the most outdated movement, shooting and driving mechanics are just abysmal.
It blows my mind people still grind this game when there’s so many great frozen money glitches right now
That's because there's so many great ways to make money in this game, it blows my mind people still do money glitches. But if you like having fake money and multiple banned accounts, sure
Any that work on PC? If so, please do tell.
@@AlexT0210 I’ve never had a banned account my guy lol. I’ll stick with making 500 million in a couple hours rather than grinding cayo for the 5273892 millionth time 😂
@@curtisevans8413 not sure about pc but I don’t see why not. I know for sure all gen Xbox and PlayStation. Check out high guy gaming channel. The glitch I use is still working, posted about a month ago. Lmk if you end up trying or have any question. Glitch only takes 5-10 minutes, wouldn’t hurt to try it out yourself with a cheap car
@@curtisevans8413 also how the glitch works is you can buy any cars you want, as many as you want before they get deleivered. Anything except Pegasus. To buy multiple, once it says sold double click o (PlayStation) and just buy others. Can even switch between websites just don’t exit the internet on your phone. Buy as many as you can before they get delivered (3 minutes) or if you want money buy 10-15 deluxos to sell. I filled up every single garage with deluxos in an hour or two
I played this game 2000 hours and I'm level 410 now and I played this boring heist 2 times only 😂
The Doomsday Heist is an absolute disaster when it comes to the gameplay itself but for some reason... even when it's unrealistic and some sorta childish, I kinda liked the lore and story behind it. A private russian militia which wants to stop you to create an unethical A.I. The A.I. goes total ham and wants to bring humanity into a nuclear war. It gave the boring shit some kinda meaning.
I never did any of the Doomsday heist preps and the finale itself, except for the first prep mission, but I’ve seen videos about how hard it is to complete this heist.
IMO, escort ULP, and the one mission with the Avenger are next impossible to complete. Worst missions Rockstar has ever designed. Especially when you have one, or a bunch randoms that either don’t know what they’re doing, or just refuse to listen to you as a heist leader.
I wonder if it was the same designer at Rockstar who made the Post Op sell mission got a divorce with their wife and made the majority of these Doomsday missions very hard to complete.
I’m glad I skipped doing the Doomsday heist, but I feel bad for those who suffered through it.
The Clifford clothing are not worth it just like the Halloween t-shirt.
>Worst missions Rockstar has ever designed.
It always frustrates me when someone decides a difficult mission that's perfectly beatable is "terrible" because it's actually difficult. It keeps more difficult missions from being added to the game, and we desperately need more of them. Just do it with 2 people, it's not that hard.
I think the only thing the doomsday stuff has going for it is the fact you can skip the setups using that pay for the preps glitch
Sometimes it can be boring, it definitely has flow & design problems, but imho it's still the hardest heist and the doomsday cmm accomp says something about players...ofc if they've managed to complete it without cheating. Some of those friends are the best and most dedicated players I know.
One day I'll get CMM2. I have 3 & 4 but my partners keep dying in 2. One rage quit the game for six months after being sniped in the last 10 minutes of the Act 3 finale.
@@BlazingOwnager Haha, I've completed my 1st dd cmm2 with a half drunk friend on the 1st try. :D We had it figured out already too, done 3 and 4 before.
Genuinely convinced the devs were doing lines of crack when planning out the way these heists would be structured
From the comments I am realizing there are two kinds of players:
Type A: Played Doomsday, got killed repeatedly, decided they hate it and want an easier way to farm money like Cayo
Type B: Players who went for the CMM challenges, discovered all the mission tricks, and love Doomsday for the ass kicking difficulty, teamwork and flexibility
Type A: people with skill issue 😂
cayo is for money only. easy pezy heist
@@HapPawhere If you want it to be a challenge you can always go loud. It's terrible and you get no reward for doing it, but it's hard.
Does cayo still have a hard mode since they increased the cool down time