Xedusa - Best OG Xbox HDMI Adapter? - Adam Koralik
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2022
- It's Adam Koralik here and today we're discussing the Xedusa, this is an HDMI/component video output adapter for the original Xbox. This is created by the Behar Bros. Frankly, it's great. Offering a lossless image, toslink sound support, and even dual video output.
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When Adam reviews a video adapter all just feels right with the world.
Tis the safest of places🤌🏻
Yes 🙌
Agreed
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Agreed, my favorite content to look forward to.
So glad I was able to grab a chimera from your previous video about it before the wait list.
Adam I want to say thank you so much for your detail and your in-depth analysis with this review from the dates of the Xbox console to where it wouldn't make a difference and it will to the settings also down to your concern for the actual device hanging off and your personal insight into the toslink option all of those things are Priceless and nobody would ever think I would think of doing a video like that but I don't see anyone else that would take the time so I want to thank you from the heart I'm going to make sure I spread the word for your channel so I can help to grow in any way I can help thank you so much for this it's super helps I'm glad I'm a subscriber
I upgraded my tv not long ago to 4k and i was kinda surprised with no component inputs on modern displays! Luckily i found a LG tv with a buddy with all hookups including composite! Its a shame tvs aren’t built with old hookups in mind especially for us retro players LOL great video Adam! 😎
I would recommend the RetroTink 5x for TVs that don't have component inputs.
Thanks Adam! I have a couple Xedusas on the way. Looks like I should explore some kind of 3D printed support to take any stress off the console's AV port.
As soon as I saw you unbox this I was excited for the video, I have a Kuro and the quality is phenomenal. I also think this ought to have a cable just for peace of mind even though the connector itself is substantial enough compared to any other system.
I was fortunate enough to get a chimeric cable but now I need to get an earlier Xbox thanks for the info great video.
Catching up on my backlog of RUclips videos...this one rocked‼️
Chimeric HDMI adapter & M Cable, a match made in heaven. Absolutely beautiful picture.
I’ve been on a waitlist for over a year for the chimeric device and then a week ago I got an email about this. I already have their Gekko for my Dreamcast so I was excited but I had a feeling you’d make a video soon so I was waiting for you to make the video before I purchased the device. Thanks for the video and my pre order is in
I don’t even own a original Xbox but I love watching these videos continue the entertaining content
Awesome video Adam! Been looking for something like this for years. Just pre-ordered 2 x Xedusa's and ordered a mClassic. Can't wait to play Steel Battlion on my 55 inch Panasonic Viera and with Toslink sound You da Man Adam! And a big hello from Western Australia. 👍🏽
so glad i ordered this, cant wait for it to arrive
i would have totally gotten one if i didnt already have the official xbox component adapter and a retrotink 5x pro
I will probably get this if I manage to get a hold of the Retro Tink 4K whenever that gets released
Definitely something to be said about having official hardware. Are you happy with your current setup?
Thank you for the video Adam! Your suggestion is what made me purchase the Gekko and the mclassic to use on my Dreamcast and it''s still so beautiful. I had a feeling the mclassic would come into play here as well and I'm glad it does. Been using crappy amazon component cables that have this buzzing sound in the background and I'm tired of them. Was so excited when the behar bros announced this and I'm definitely going to get it ASAP since I still play the original Xbox a ton.
Solid review..thanks
For those who want amazing PQ and no extra adaptors, there is one modern 2020 Panasonic oled model that has built in COMPONENT and composite input. It has the best picture plus built in speakers tuned by Technics. HZ2000
Thanks for this video. I'm gonna pick one up since I won't get the chimera for like another 30 years.
Adam, the reason for the video glitching on your Mountain Dew Xbox isn't because of cheaper components, it's because you likely need to replace capacitors on the board (not talking about the clock cap which outright needs to be removed).
Some of the capacitors are responsible for the power regulation of video transmission, and when caps start to fail it will affect analog signals. How do I know this? I've been repairing Xbox consoles specifically for over twenty years, and working in electronic repair for even longer.
I enjoy your videos, but you need to take greater care in ensuring your facts are correct. I'm reminded of when you mentioned that some rare PS2 models came equipped with USB 2.0 ports, which is factually incorrect all the way around.
Got a cap list? Looking to replace the video signal caps
@@LD50II It's usually the ones in front of the CPU. Depending on your version it might be 3 - 5 capacitors.
yes the end of this video had me very confused. I believe the xbox I have is a 1.6 something and I use the monster component cables and no visual artifacts or funny stuff like that ever shows up.
@@tohno1809 I use a Monster Component cable with my LG 55” Flatscreen and it looks amazing on the 720P Games.
I wasn't fortunate to find a complete set of Monster Brand cables. Usually it's missing the adapter for Toslink audio.
Are the Psyclone cables just as good or better? I appreciate the fact that the Toslink port is built into the plug behind the Xbox.
I'm currently rocking a Samsung LN37D550 37" TV and I'm happy. I don't own a 4K TV. Just because I still play and own an Xbox One. I don't consume my UHD content. I mean, it took me into the early 2010's to leave behind DVDs and watch content on HD or Blu-ray.
Definitely looking in to this
I was looking forward to this review once I got news that Beharbros was making an OG Xbox HDMI adapter of their own.
I know I’ve said this before Adam, but I super appreciate all the videos you do. Since I’m always working and delivering mail, the more content to listen to the better. Did James tell you about my Xbox mods? It was…quite a ride lol
James?
@@AdamKoralik yeah Reiner helped me out and he had a journey
Thought I should mention, Microsoft made another version of the component cables besides the box. They’re more like conventional console component cables, with the toslink port located on the part you plug into the console.
I never had a XBOX growing up, but recently with the whole talk of Insignia I started picking up a plethora of games. I'm really enjoying the SEGA content on it. Cheers, bud.
Cheers Adam, I've been ignorant on the differences of the innards of OG xbox's regarding video quality. Thankfully it seems I have an 01 Model so rather happy after watching this.
Happy to help!
That Dew Xbox looks like it's added in post lol.
I was on waitlist got mine after 5ish weeks i think but this xedusa is perfect for streaming
The main reason the component output is great is because I can use my Open Source Scan Converter to line double the 480p image which looks great. I've been using a 360 OEM component cable modded for the OG Xbox so it's pretty good, the most appealing aspect about this is the Toslink port so I can use improved audio with my sound system. Definently getting this!
Adam is my go to guy for console hookups I personally use og Xbox cables with retrotink 5x works and looks good for my setup
I'm one of the lucky few who got the Chimeric before it was well known and tons of people wanted it...it's nice.
You and I both.
Me too. The guy sent it straight to me using PayPal.
I have their other product for the Dreamcast, The Gekko. Great device, I am sure this one for the Xbox gives excellent quality.
I bought the Gecko for the Dreamcast back when and the picture quality is still impeccable. I only just got an Xbox again two weeks ago for Insignia and finally opened my sealed copy of PSO E1&2 and somehow now have like 25 games already thanks to me having no self control at a local classic games shop. My TV does *ok* at upscaling, but the original signal is still composite and I wasn't honestly going to bother with anything else... now I see this and you got me to buy yet another Behar Bros device lol.
Ha, sorry.
Great. I already have the retrotink 2x multi format. All I need is the official O.G. Xbox component cables. The cables are expensive. My goodness. Thanks. Great informative video
@@MichaelM28 Does HD retrovision have original Xbox component cables?
May have to consider this one as BBS do make quality products (Toro for Dreamcast) but I may wait for a revision, hope they take your feedback. Hanging off the back does seem like it's asking for trouble.
Not in a rush to get one, I got the official Microsoft component cables (but I need a better component to HDMI Scaler), the Monster Cables (hooked up to my CRT), & the Pound Cable (which by itself is crap but when connected to a micro USB power supply isn't bad).
Another great review Adam!
"It doesn't feel like the thing is going in all the way. It's just so big." Adam Koralik- 2022
I can't believe it took that long for someone to point this out, props!
@@AdamKoralik hi I have a question I bought a original xbox I am using the original xbox high definition av pack but in my xbox settings for video I only have the open for normal or wide screen no 480p or 720p option?
Today I learned getting into OG XBOX as german is now a little bit harder.^^ I need not only a modded XBOX but an early one as well. Do not want the hassle of modding it myself. Thank you Adam for your great videos.
The good thing for me is. I have good component cables from Japan ( both Microsoft box as very solid 3rd party cable and very good secondary screen that supports component in. So for the forceable future I am Golden
Beharbros are quality products I have the Akura you (Adam) reviewed for the Dreamcast excellent video quality. Now I am using the Retro Tink Multiformat plugging my Microsoft component cables into Retro Tink. As for the hanging issue out of console I am thinking already changing out the four screws to longer ones. The Akura has two screws in each corner anchor receiver that tighten up against one another. Looks like the Xedusa has a similar build. I believe you forgot to mention the price Adam, $65.00 plus $10.00 shipping. Stated as pre-orders going out August 2022 on Beharbros site. Oh yeah Space Jam!
I rarely mention prices unless they're extreme. Typically because of sales and coupons and all that, prices change, but hypothetically the information won't.
Miss these cable review videos. Nice video Adam.
Adam do you think you’ll ever do a video on your Mega Drive collection? They are always in the background of your videos and it’s alway intrigued me in what you have for it.
The games specifically? Probably not since I don't have a full set.
@@AdamKoralik ah fair point. But you do look like you’ve got a great Collection. 👍
Finally was able to order one Chimeric HDMI cable.
hey adam I love the videos
A bit unrelated, but I picked up from my local thrift store a Samsung LN37D550 w/ remote. It was the best bang for the buck HDTV for 2011. It has 2 Component Inputs, 4 HDMI ports, VGA, with SPDIF/Toslink. I'm happy it has these many inputs for my Xbox (Component), Modded Wii (Component), GameCube with GCHD (HDMI), Xbox One, Xbox 360, and Fire Stick on HDMI. My ideal setup is complete. No more disconnecting component cables...
The TV was $59.99. I'm still a bit shocked this TV was worth over $1K 12 years ago.
I definitely need this thing
Nice to see another video like this :) wish they’d make a great wii hdmi adapter. The wii and ps2 are kind of in the same not when it comes to hdmi adapters. It helps but the output just isn’t all that great when it comes to displaying on modern TVs haha
I just discovered your channel while I was looking for best video quality options for my original Xbox. Once you said that Nutella is McDonald's brand...I had to sub haha. Also, a very informative video!
This feels like a video from 2012. it's great
I love this kind of videos please do more of these in the future. Sorry I am behind on your videos and I am going to catch up. But I have the chimerick one. I got very lucky he had a run of making 75 in a month. If I have that one would you get this one? I love my akura box from them. They are so cool and have had problems with it and they always respond and have helped me. Great video.
The quality is essentially the same. The difference is the extras and potentially the sound depending on which Chimeric version you got. Ultimately, it's up to you depending on your needs.
@@AdamKoralik ok thanks. Yeah I have the one you have without the toslink sound. So think I will just keep using the one chimeric one. Don't care about sound that much.
It's interesting that you mentioned later Xbox models looking bad with HDMI solutions. I'm glad you said that because I have a 1.6 Xbox and it doesn't look great with the Chimeric adapter. I thought about buying an MClassic and figured it would help but that doesn't sound like that's the case. What Xbox revisions do you recommend with an HDMI solution?
Earlier models, but also make sure the caps are good or get them replaced.
12:30 just replace the screws with ones long enough to reach the bottom of the Xbox so the adapter rests on the table. Just a dollar or two for peace of mind.
By the way I like the Mountain Dew XBOX although its color makes it look like the Green Mighty Morphin Power Ranger made a licensing agreement with Microsoft to make a custom made OG XBOX!
Mine just arrived today, it works great with a nice clean signal - I even turned off the soften and noise reduction filters on the XBMC dashboard.
The only thing i will say that i'm not a fan of is how the audio RCA ports are sort of just tacked on and sticking out the top of the device - it would of been great if these were built into the devices shell like the component and HDMI is. There's enough room that it looks like it would be doable.
I always like how much into detail you go in your videos. With the early model xbox models are those the ones that potentially have the leaky capacitors? Is there a difference between using a Xedusa with PAL and NTCS games?
That definitely can be a factor for sure.
The NTSC/PAL thing would mostly boil down to the specific resolutions supported by the title.
@@AdamKoralik when I first found out about that issue I immediatly checked which model I have (it was the first consol I bought with money I earned working 😅 got the Ninja Gaiden bundle back then) found out that I got a model that doesn´t have the issue with the capacitors which probably means it will have the problem you brought up.
@@MichaelM28 yeah I know I did some research that Ninja Gaiden bundle came out in may 2004 ... anyway I was lucky in that regard it´s a 1.6 model. But with that said I´ll probably encounter the issue Adam mentioned.
I'm 648 in the waitlist for the Chimeric and according to my spreadsheet I estimate to get it January 20th 2023 (been waiting since November of last year). Fyi he does around 3.4 per day according to my average formula (I check everyday for my queue position). He's right about not worth waiting..!
I would of gone for it (Xedusa) if the quality was better than the Chimeric somehow but I think your point about having better mount for the Xedusa makes me realize I'll just wait, because I wouldn't want to break it in my cabinet..
I have the Hyperkin and I indeed agree that it's bad. I wish I knew someone in Canada that could install the MakeMHz solution but haven't found anyone (and I don't solder so..).
Great video 👍
Hello!! So I have a very nice fully modded 1.6 version xbox and I also was lucky enough to snag a chimeric hdmi a few years ago and an mclassic and a very high end tv with HDMI 2.1. Now my 1.6 was manufactured around approx 2005 and I had also remembered hearing rumors that people would say that the later machines didn't put out as crisp of graphics due to crappier(cheaper) parts/chips etc used as you mentioned. So after listening to a ton of people debate it on reddit I actually think you are correct that the earlier versions will put out crisper graphics. I play a few 720p games on my 1.6 and even with my chimeric and mclassic, from day 1 something just always felt a bit off almost exactly as you showed with some jagged edges etc. So my plan is to get another machine modded, preferably a 1.1 or 1.0 version or anything manufactured 2002ish and I'm excited to see the difference!
You should do some (somewhat) scientific analysis and update id there's actually any difference. I also have a 1.6 Xbox, Chimeric and Mclassic.
Thank you for your great content! I was wondering - when you mention the later year xbox's being plagued with bad video - would the hardware Mod Xbox HD+ bring those versions up to snuff with the older xbox's or are there other downfalls of the later xbox's?
I ASSUME so, but it may also just be bad capacitors.
@@AdamKoralik Gotcha. Thanks for your reply Adam
9:28 imagine one of your viewers watches your Xedusa direct video capture on a CRT TV hooked to their 90's era computer using composite via an RF modulator at 240p
Can't wait for videos about the new stellar mod and hdmi v2 mod. That along with insignia/xlink Kai will bring the Xbox to whole new heights
Even with my 2003 modded xbox i am getting a super pin sharp image with component connection to a hdmi converter. I guess you just need to try various converters...i ordered about 4 from amazon, 3 were rubbish but one gave a superb clean picture, so kept that one and sent the other 3 back.
My fav is like $200 but I can't recall the name right now. it has like 6 AV ins, 4 S video ins, 2 component ins, one VGA in and one RF in. The DVD that came with it says that VGA port is for the Sega Dreamcast and the RF port is for like an old Atari 2600 or an TV antenna. That the HDMI in port is their so you sill use the port on you TV for things like your Cable Box.
The hyperkin HDMI cable works great for me. I noticed some of these cables need external power to run full speed. If you're not getting a clean signal with your adapter you could be bad capacitors in your Xbox
I mean, as long as you're happy.
I'm gonna try and get the xedusa That looks even better. This is a great video.
to get my Chimeric HDMI took me about a year!
The hanging in the air part is very unsettling because one wrong move and you can break it off from the board.
I bought an xbox with an error screen. Luckily, was able to get it looked at where it was determined that the hdd went bad, and on top of that, it's a 1.0. Got that sucker TSOP modded and now put in a 250GB SSD. While I do habe the HD component pack, this would complete this beast in terms of mods.
didn't know the original xbox took ssd that is cool
@@KrazyKrzysztof officially, it does not. You need a long enough 80 pin ide cable and an IDE -> SATA adapter board. The other thing is the console does need to be soft modded in some way, as the 8/10GB drive on the xbox is supposed to be locked to that console.
I bought a custom made adapter years ago where someone took one of those Wii HDMI adapters and change the plug in port to an Xbox one
It was so weird but for a few years it was surprisingly usable, at least on my old 1080p screen, had colour and sound too
Appreciate the detail and thorough nature of the video, mate. No waffling and bs like i saw on other channels. Just a quick question though, I live in Australia and I've got a PAL Xbox. Recently tried playing with og composite cables on an lcd tv and it looked absolutely hideous, massive blur. If I was to purchase an HDMI output adapter for use on an unmodded PAL Xbox, is this basically a waste of time? Have no experience modding an Xbox, though curious to try and get it to NTSC to be able to go 480p and 720p instead of the locked 480i. Thanks again for the video, mate
It would be BETTER but not even close to as good as it could be. Mod the console if you can.
@@AdamKoralik Appreciate the reply, at least it would be somewhat better aye. But yeah, seems I'll need to give modding it a crack
Man I really want citrus's HDMI solution in this form factor.
Hi, so quick question on the version thing. I am putting in an HD+ in a v1.6. I "chose" a 1.6 for a couple of reasons ... less old so less chance of bursting into flames (hopefully they improved the power supply), less caps/components so hopefully potentially will have less chance for failure. Although, as you point out, this may be offset by cost-cutting. I also like the LPC rebuild board and find that better than trying to micro-solder the D0 point with a piece of wire. Anyway, my question is the v1.6 an otherwise good version to do the HDMI mod on. I assume the issues with a weaker signal stems from other components and the HDMI should be equivalent. Thoughts?
To be honest, I don't know. Assuming the HD+ works on the 1.6 (I think it does), I'd imagine that would solve the majority of the issues. But I don't know for sure.
thanks
I learned quite a bit from this, thanks for that. Also digging the Battlefront II gameplay, nice choice!
The OG Xbox is my second favorite console of all time (behind the Dreamcast, obviously).
Damn. I didn’t know about the video quality getting that much worse in later revisions. I’ll probably be on the lookout for a new console now.
I found that i own the madcatz one with the ps2 as well. Honestly not bad when i basically got em for nothing. I mainly use S-Video though since thats all my CRT can do
Adam I got a problem.
First my Xbox is a launch model and recently had it cleaned up and recapped with no special mods at all and I did disable 1080i.
Now I'm using the Xedusa with a mclassic and for some reason the screen flickers and eventually goes black on my 4k tv. WTF?
I tried it on 2 other regular TV's and it works fine, but my Sony 4k ( my best tv ) is where I want to use it.
Any idea? I heard there is something you can do by pressing down on both sticks and L & R triggers at the same time on the menu screen to change resolution?
I do have a spare Xbox and that one does work on that 4k tv just fine. Freagin weird.
excellent game choice!!!!
Was extremely lucky to get a chimeric hdmi cable recently. Paired with the mclassic, I am blown away at how good the games look. Looking forward to trying this solution out as well if it goes back on sale again 😅
I didn't even know they had more in stock awhile ago. I'm low key kind of annoyed because it seems they take forever to get more in stock so I really just forgot about it. Hopefully I'll catch it next time and God knows how long that will take 🙄
Pound: Okay image, no 4:3 option and better with mClassic but that 4:3 isn’t proper as it squashes the black bars as well to force the aspect ratio. A little off but still okay.
Xbox AV Pack: Just wanted so say that there’s an OEM Component Cables version that’s less bulky. Works great with my RT5X.
Chimera: I had one like that from TekNemesis but I had interference jail bars. Eventually sold it as they showed up in my captures. Worked fine other than that.
For this one I’d just place some felt pad stickers on the bottom to help with the dangling.
When you say early model, what model range are you referring to? Anything under the v1.6 revision?
Usually yes, but there's no guarantee unfortunately.
I have a 1.6b revision Xbox (Crystal NTSC Canadian variant) the Pound HDMI V2 with usb power plugged in cuts in and out intermittently. The issue is present on a 2021 Sony tv and a smaller 10 year old Sony tv (so it’s not the tv) The system was fully recapped. I’m wondering if I have a bad Pound converter or if there is some specific issue to this variant? Any options or solutions would be appreciated
How does component into a retrotink compare to xedusa?
Hey, Adam. I'm curious to know if the Xbox2HDMI adapter from Electron Shepherd is on your radar? Unfortunately, it's been out of stock for most of the year, but a lot of folks on the OG Xbox subreddit have been very happy with it, especially for the price ($28.99).
I've never used it to be honest.
@@MichaelM28 Yeah, I think the consensus is that it's still not as good as a Chimeric, but it's at least better than the Hyperkin or Pound options.
Wish they make retro tv for this games .
I have the Advanced av pack, retrotink 5x and a portta component to HDMI. I use the av pack and portta with the mclassic on a 1.4 and for my eyes the image is fine. lol I bought the Xedusa, should be here any day, They literally mailed it within a couple of hours of me buying it.
Electron Shepherd is also doing a plug n play HDMI adapter for the og Xbox. Digital audio doesn't work on 1.0 xboxs otherwise it's better than some of those cheapo's
I wonder if beharbros will make an HDMI adapter with an upscaler for PS2.
The white line pops are because of the changes to the video encoder in later revisions, right? Does that problem still exist with something like the HD+, since it grabs the digital signal before it goes through the encoder?
It'll be fine, turns out it's more of a capacitor issue. So make sure those are good too.
Does the component part of the Xedusa HDMI adapter have the same picture quality as the Official Microsoft HD AV Pack breakaway box or is it just a tiny bit sharper than the Official Microsoft HD AV Pack breakaway box?
It should, it's just a passthrough.
Hey Adam, thanks for the video and explanations, if i het the HD+ mod installed, does it then make a difference if i have a 2004 XBOX and not a 2001? thanks
You'd have to check the details of which revisions are supported. To be honest I'm not sure.
Hey does the "Xbox HD+" (I know its a complicated install like the DCdigital) fix the later Xbox's video quality? Could be a neat way to "save" xboxs with particularly awful video quality if so.
To be honest, I don't know. I think it's only compatible with the earlier models. But I'm genuinely not sure.
He's made basically 300 Chimeric HDMIs, it would take a decade to fill those multi-decade quotas.
Got my Chimeric adapter. And I honestly don’t see anything being better then it. Chimeric adapter & M Cable is the best combination.
@@MarkoPolo8888 is the M cable a substitute for the Mclassic?
I wonder if you can disable the AA smoothening that OG xbox applies to everything with a softmod, and if so how good it would look with it disabled running through an M2 adaptor... 🤔
The resolution options (besides Normal, Lettter, & Widescreen) are these only available when a HD pack or HD cables are connected? I ask because I have never seen those options the 480P, 720P, nor the 1080i within the dashboard and I do have the official Microsoft HD pack. Maybe mines broken I guess, my CRT gave up the ghost recently and my 1.6b xbox is terrible on my display.
What region console are you using? The HD pack as shown in this video?
If like me your in a Pal region your console will not display those video options unfortunately.
can you please do a 5.1 test on chemeric I have the version with SPDIF and i think that version has stereo & 5.1 instead of HDMI 5.1
Adam so does this mean the special edition Halo transparent green Xbox gives off a shitty signal?
Would an xboxhd+ be wasted on a 1.4 then? I have at least 10 other consoles in my house, so I'm sure I have an early 1.0/1.2 somewhere, but I want to use my childhood console. Thanks!
I would be a bit wary if they attached the hdmi connector to a short cable, The Toro box had this and i ended up getting loads of picture issues with the screen having a purple tint or yellow tint and i constantly had to wiggled it around for a stable picture. I thought it was just my toro box but then i seen on a digital foundry video John Linneman had the same issue with his.
That was the wire's connection to the board not being secured. It actually can be fixed with electrical tape.
I notice that this does not have the additional power input like the pound revised cabled had to counteract the issues with some model xbox's - do you think that will be a problem?
I kind of doubt it, Behar Bros stuff tends to be built a lot better. But to be fair I don't know.
Ironic that you just posted this because a few hours before this I was looking at ur review Of the hyperkin Xbox hdmi cable
I'd put something under the adapter. Isn't the Dreamcast Behar vga box known for getting loose over time?
I’ve noticed that games are way darker on an original Xbox than playing on a 360 or One. Are high quality video options a remedy for this as well? I’ve only used cheap component cables and original composite.
Yeah, though it also seems to depend on the capacitors in your Xbox and if they're dead or not.
I'm using a modded xbox 360 component cable. The image is very clean but I feel like the saturation has gone down significantly.