Xedusa Plus & Vedusa - Best OG Xbox VGA/HDMI Adapters? - Adam Koralik
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- It's Adam Koralik here and today we're discussing the Xedusa Plus and the Vedusa, this is an HDMI/component video output adapter for the original Xbox as well as a VGA output device. These were created by the Behar Bros. Frankly, it's great. Offering a lossless image, toslink sound support, and even dual video output.
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Hey Adam i just wanted to say thank you for more than a friggin´ DECADE of fantastic content.
Thanks for watching!
You were right on the nose with the VGA addition. I've been using the Dreamcast, Xbox, and GameCube in 480p on a VGA CRT for a couple years now it honestly looks stunning. I actually like the look of them on that monitor a whole lot more than the 240p consoles on a consumer CRT.
I believe VGA being there is twofold.
1: VGA CRT monitors are a common, good quality alternative to a BVM or PVM in a retro gaming setup. Plus, good CRT displays still have the advantages of 0 lag and pretty good color reproduction.
2: For those who are unsatisfied with 480p or 720p resolution options on a digital display, they could route VGA through something like an OSSC and get more resolution options.
Thank you for posting for more than 10 years of informative videos and saying what you really think about stuff.
I have used the Monster component cables back in the day and they reliable and best video output
Very thorough and well made video!
The VGA output on the Vedua is actually really useful if you want RGB - with the right BNC breakout cables or the right scart cable you can use this that way as well.
A nice change to help with stability. And a VGA solution. Full credit to them for correcting these issues. Thanks Adam.
Awesome stuff as usual buddy :)
I got myself a Dreamcast for my birthday. Keeping it this time. Been over 20 year's since I owned the hardware. Cex sold me it with faulty display cable. Good job I still had a old one in my possession. 0:22
Bought the Xedusa from your original video for the 1.4 Crystal Xbox, it’s stunning.
I was waiting for this 1!!!!
I just got the 8bitdo neo-geo cd wireless controller
I don't even have a Xbox, but I always enjoy your reviews on old school video upgrades.
It's definitely a must-watch for me. Kudos to them for making it available in both HDMI and VGA, offering more ways to enjoy our original Xbox. Big thanks to Adam for this update!
I bought this a few weeks ago, thanks for confirming I made a great decision ;)
The Vedusa really IS for the CRT PC Monitor enthusiasts. It's definitely a more niche product than the Xedusa, but it's nice that the Beharbros is filling that niche.
Chimeric cable + the M cable best overall pick for me. Outstanding picture
You mean the mClassic?
@@cloudrise Noooo! I mean M Cable.
I dig the VGA because I've used an adapter before to get my xbox on vga but that introduced lag since it was going through hdmi and back to vga with an audio splitter so that is really cool to use on my 4:3 lcd screen that has vga
12:41 THAT'S MEEE! Literally watching this on my VGA CRT, my main PC monitor lmfao
I have the same HDMI setup. I do have to agree that the video does not do it justice. It is amazing playing these classic games on such amazing quality.
Have soft modded my PAL Xbox a while ego. The picture quality at 720P is epic ( using good quality component cables with a display that has component inputs.
In my rooms I have a 2008 hd, widescreen sharp Tv with component, composite, and hdmi, a Sharp 2003 19R-M100 consumer crt tv and a IBM E74 crt monitor. I love the use my crt monitor for dreamcast games, I love to use my Sharp 19R-M100 for n64,nes sega genesis etc and I like to use the sharp tv for modern games such as Wii U, switch and Ps3. I definitely see a use for the vga port especially for crt monitors. (They look amazing)
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Three weeks, Game Con then St Louis Pizza. I'm trusting you Adam.
Xbox2HDMI from Electron Sheperd is pretty good as well for its price.
Pretty cool to see there's so much aftermarket stuff for this old hardware :D.
I did buy the Neoya X2VGA+ back in the days. Still have it and it works fine. Sure it is only VGA.
Once upon a time I did go that Pound Cable route. Though in my defense I wasn't aware of all the options. I knew of one or two better alternatives but it was stuff like The Framemeister that at the time was completely out of my league to get. Saw them at a local retro store I frequent and bought some. Did what I needed it to do for about 2 months tops before crapping out on me. I mean, "What build quality?" is more accurate. Now I have one of the Beharbros devices for my Dreamcast, a Carby for my Gamecube. Thankfully one of the TVs I use for retro gaming has Component inputs and I got some HD Retrovision cables for my PS2 and Sega Genesis/CD and the adapter for my Sega Saturn. I do want to eventually get a Retrotink device be it the 2x or 5x depending on possible (hopefully?) future sales and how my wallet is feeling, but it's doing the job just fine for now. Baby steps getting my set up where I'd ideally like it to be.
But, man, when you do invest in the good stuff it really is a night and day difference. Honestly, at this point, if I had just kept buying new Pound cables (or some variant of them) every time they stopped functioning properly I likely would have spent more on them than I have just getting the quality solutions.
Dude it’s Jacob. Saw you at the untied club. Good to see you bruh. Love the videos. Keep up the good work
Today? That was you?
@@AdamKoralik yup buddy the big dude that came and grab your dishes and ask if you were a RUclipsr. That’s me 😂
I appreciate you doing that. Hit me up via email or something if you want to. adamkoralik@yahoo.com
Would be interested to know if it still has the dark blacks issue, cool stuff as always.
Baffled that they did a breakout box, yey more eyesore when lay off your display! So I got the straight first-party component cord n it's been groovy
Between this and Retro Fighters' upcoming Xbox controller, I'm really tempted to return to the OG Xbox!
I'm hoping we're going to get a Mclassic 4K edition sooner than later.
i preordered the Eon equivalent. hopefully it's as good...
Hey Adam... will we see you on Threads? Keep up the good work BTW. I've pre-ordered an Xbox HDMI adapter and I'm waiting for it to show up so I can try it out myself.
Maybe, we'll see if it survives.
Went to a gaming convention 4 days ago, me and my dad spotted a copy of Mario Party 6 with the GameCube mic for £130. The seller showed us the condition of everything: the disc looked good, it had the manual, my dad bought it!
Wow based out in Turkey! I should check them out!
The Vedusa would be a match made in heaven for people with old PC CRT monitors. Games from that era can look and feel quite nicer than on modern displays - but it may be an acquired taste. I actually prefer to do all my retro gaming on these, so I could consider grabbing it. Thanks for the video.
The Dreamcast too is especially nice on a PC CRT through VGA. In my analogue setup I have the Dreamcast split with the TORO to a PC CRT for VGA-compatible games, and RGB SCART to a PVM (not 480p-compatible) for 240p games like 2D fighters and shooters. For the Dreamcast and its typically clean graphics style/aesthetics progressive scan is what I always prefer, which is different from the ps2 for example, where IMO some games with busier, field-rendered graphics look quite sharp and nice in native 480i (only achievable on a CRT obviously). I recently also set up a second Dreamcast with the new component cables from RGC through the RetroTink 5x Pro on the 4k OLED, and it still looks surprisingly clean and attractive on a flat panel. For all intents and purposes I don't see why I'd need an HDMI mod.
I would use VGA for the RetroTink 4k.
I saw a video or article somewhere that there was an issue with this new pigtail style Xedusa.
Wondering if you experienced any issues with picture or sound quality between the two to see if these concerns have some sort of merit to them. 🤔
Woah, cool!! Isnt this the first VGA solution for ver1.6 xbox?
Might be, I'm not sure.
One thing I would have liked for you to bring up as a warning was that some older V1.0 Xbox's won't have any audio signal through HDMI output. Your original xedusa video was the reason I got one and I had no idea my Xbox would have this issue.
Can't say I ran into that.
@@AdamKoralikthey have a warning posted on their website
I had the same issue with my V1.0. It's an annoyance but was fairly easy to take care of.
@AdamKoralik are you attending Southern Fried Gaming Expo in Atlanta the weekend of July 28th? If so, are you going to have a booth?
I'll be at MO Game Con in St Louis. SFGE has never reached out to me. If you want me in the future, tell them. That's usually how it works.
I'm curious if the VGA port on the Vedusa outputs the full RGB color space or if it's only sending YPbPr? I've heard before that the video encoders in Xbox consoles don't do true RGB which is why using a SCART RGB cable with them doesn't get good results. Does the Vedusa VGA port output true RGB?
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I also wonder if they could cost reduce it even more if they only worried about the HDMI output. they could have a "pro" mode and then a cheaper mode with just HDMi since that's what most people only care about anyways
Never owned an XBox, but still a nice product
I have a Pound cable for a second Xbox and the picture flickers if the cord is bent. Can confirm they dont live long
Yes it's totally worth playing original microsoft xbox in HD with a hdmi cable
The original model of Xedusa I put longer bolts into the bottom of the device. The longer bolts reach the surface the XBOX is sitting on to also support the Xedusa. The top and bottom bolt threads bottom out against each other. The longer bolts bottom out and are thus longer to help support the Xedusa. Problem solved.
Has anyone had any problems with the pound cable tho. I’ve had mine for a few years now. I only play a couple times a year but seems reliable enough
I have. They're not good. Their build quality is junk and they're just generic upscalers. I have problems with them constantly.
8:08 Indeed, the 1.6 ver. OG Xboxes have issues with 480p in certain games like Voodoo Vince of Jet Set Radio Future.
Thankfully, JCRocky5 created custom patches for those games on 1.6 OG Xboxes. So 1.6 owners have to jump through a few extra hoops.
How does one go about doing that? I have a XBMC4Gamers Rocky5 SoftModded XBox and am looking for the fix for this. Thank you ahead of time.
@@H2Hazmat JCRocky's "480p Game Loaders for v1.6 Xbox!" video explains things.
Does the Vedusa support Xbox light guns when output to a CRT with VGA in?
It should, I have no way to test that. The light gun limitation is due to the monitor usually, not the way it's connected. So, my guess is it would function.
Can’t go wrong with Battlefront 👍
I think the only thing that would interest me in playing an OG xbox in present time would be to just check out the Sega games that were released on it. Never was a big fan I gave mine to my brother so it got played just not by me
Didn't, the XboxHD+ get surpassed by something with SSD Trim garbage collection? What if I combined the mClassic and Darbee DVP-5000s together, the Xbox 360 with both the monitor/TV and capture card would look insane! I can't wait to test that... Wait, I could do that now, I'm done capturing the online ranking system of Raskulls. My Xbox 360 Intel Quicksync capture days are essentially over and I never have to use Xbox Live Gold ever again! I can totally try this.
Will you review Electron Shepard's Xbox 2HDMI?
I'm unfamiliar with that one. If I get a unit, I'd be happy to.
@@AdamKoralik I'm under the impression it's relatively new. Would love to hear your input on it.
Are you going to be upgrading your HDMI+ xbox with a Project Stellar?
Haven't heard of that one.
I’m one of those people that uses the VGA. Old 4:3 monitors are available very easily ($15 apiece at most, even sometimes this cheap online) even in LCD form. I can repurpose the monitors I use at work for this purpose if they are ever retired. Much easier to get than any Component TV at this point, so this is what I’ve moved to where possible. HDMI is fine but not realistic for 4:3 options. I prefer not to play with black bars, and in the case ironically with Battlefront 1, playing in 16:9 is a worse experience. It crops the actual viewable area of the game to give a fake 16:9 ratio, so you see much more of your character and much less of your surroundings. Very annoying. Up until now I’m using a 360 with the official VGA cable to play that game, with DLC and title updates installed.
Hi Adam I have a 4/03/ 2005 og xbox. I'm running it with pound. Unfortunately that is starting to go. Will the XEDUSA+ work with this or should I get a mclassic?
The Xedusa is still what you'd need to connect to the console. The mClassic is just a complimentary device to make it better.
@AdamKoralik thank you. Appreciate your response. Ordering it now.
@AdamKoralik got my xedusa+ works flawless. Getting the mclassic as well. Do you have any experience with playstation 2? Right now its displaying 4:3 through pound. Does BBS have anything?
@@dethcrimsonx Glad you like it. Make sure you activate the high resolution modes. I think I showed that in this video.
PS2 is...uh...not easy. Everyone wants that one but there's really no gold options yet.
@AdamKoralik high res on the xbox? I believe its 480p and 720p widescreen was already enabled. Om the xedusa I didn't see anything, unless I missed something.
I need VGA for my 480p CRT. I thought about getting an HDMI Xbox adapter then convert to VGA but there would be no way to get the audio. So this should work for me. I already have my Dreamcast on VGA and it's the most crisp looking graphics. Never mind, just clicked the link $90 shipped lol fuck em.
Is there any coupon codes for the xedusa? Its $20 for shipping which makes it $85. Kinda pricey.
Not that I know of.
I got the zedusa and I had no audio, and the screen flickered a lot. Troubleshooted for hours only to give up and toss it in a drawer. I'm sure it's my Xbox but still disappointing either way. I play it through composite, which for some odd reason my new smart tv has, and just deal with it.
Contact them, that doesn't sound right.
@@AdamKoralik I really probably should.
Regarding the sound, if you have one of the older Xboxes, you need to use the audio port on the box. I have a V1.0 Xbox and had to do that to get sound. It's on their site that that is an issue with V1.0 Xboxes and use an audio cable is needed.
retrotink5x for the original xbox looks better than my other native hdmi modded xbox lol
Maybe the vga one is for countries where the people would be hard pressed to buy an hd tv still.
Hey Adam, did you ever do the video where you use the De-Blur function on the N64 everdrive and then add an Mclassic? I’m curious to see what the results would be
I don't think I did.
What I heard is that capacitors, specifically the clock capacitor, goes bad for OG Xboxs earlier than the 1.6 models. But you’re saying the opposite.
Clock capacitor is a specific issue, not the one I'm referring to.
This is getting to be repetitive with the number of options over the years. Can add the XBHD to the review list later in the future.
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if you are using a tv with a vga connection you wuld stereo cable input to play audio on the because foe tv's 1 toslink connection was an audio outrput not input, i don't think vga would work for xbox an it never supported it as valid connection
even if you could do 1080i via component realistically from the default multi out wart plug-in you most likely get a max of 729x400p (NTSC), noting no firmware update release to support
Noting from a pc perspective 1080p has only been available for the last 8-10 years from a console perspective you would likely need to flash the dvdrom firmware to support it as stock they wouldn't natively support
the og xbox was always a ntsc console the only thing to determine region was the dvdrom drive itself
to this day vga still requires stereo jack input
look I own a tv that has composite, component vga and , vga and hdmi , even if vga had of been supported back in 2001 for OG xbx you would still of had issues with pin out on compoonent-vga cable never properly functioned from a scart use case it if the cable was wired as either as component pr c-sync with component signal
with dvd having a standard of upto 1080p sad to state that only a few did ever support up to 1080i though the actual firmware typically didn't support it on the dvd drive by default
as soon as i wentt to hdmi i didn't look back in terms of console
Pal resolutions didn't really turn up to the xbox one as far as i'm aware i think both og xbox and 360 were NTSC consoles 720x400p vs widescreen PAL of 720x576 with bandwidth limit on s-video due to its bus speed 720x400 (NTSC) and 720x576 (PAL)
easy answer to the vga adapter, vga monitors are cheaper than sony pvms.
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8:05 wrong. What REALLY REALLY matters is the box the XBox came in. Too bad, because someone else bought out the packaging and now you're left with the useless console he sold back
Can't get over MS screwing us Aussies and Europe with the HD modes..
Vedusa is rip off (almost £100) and i disagree with the its cheap for a reason adapter I purchase cost me £13 and it has been fine for 4 years
I mean, if you're happy that's fine. But it doesn't make what I said incorrect. Build quality is still a thing.
@@AdamKoralik No you are incorrect. It's nothing to do with build quality (component quality maybe)
You claimed if something is cheap its for a reason again no incorrect many things are cheaper doesn't make it poor build quality it depends on each product some companies like to make a big mark up.
@@nicmonberg5974 I mean, I'm objectively correct. Pound cables are built poorly, that savings is passed on to the customer sure, but so is the problem. But if you're happy with your purchase, by all means enjoy it.
Whenever I'm looking at some widget/gizmo/upgrade for sixth gen stuff, my first search is always "_blank thing_ adam koralik"
Think you'll do a video on the Electron Shepherd Xbox2HDMI when the orders go out?
Possibly, I don't know if I'm on a list for one or anything.
Third usage case: Maybe it's to cater to less developed, adjacent markets, possibly their own in Turkey?
I couldn't find any concrete info on it, but it's not outside the realm of possibility of a country like Turkey to still be some years behind tech-wise, especially since countries around it tend to follow suit. Even my home country of Ukraine still has MANY CRT TVs, especially in hotels; Hell, East Ukraine still uses SECAM (How much of the infrastructure supporting it still exists in the wake of the 2nd invasion is very difficult to determine, however), and Armenia still mostly uses Windows XP. Plus, even Turkey's wi-fi, per my experience, was only 1G, and this was at a major airport.