Why Israel is Dividing the Tories
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- Опубликовано: 10 апр 2024
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In this video, we’re going to have a look into the Tory government’s stance on Israel, why this stance is being challenged right now, and ultimately how this is damaging Tory unity on foreign policy.
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Went from dividing up Palestine to being divided up over Palestine
This goes hard icl
How exactly? Britain (under a socialist Labour government) handed Palestine intact over to the UN to deal with in 1947-8.
@@sdrawkcabUKno it didn't they broke up Palestine and helped the sionists steal homes and land from the natives
@@sdrawkcabUK Balfour was a tory and all this was his government's brilliant idea.
Edit: to clarify, Balfour was not PM when he gave official endorsement to the creation of the State of Israel. He was the foreign secretary.
@@sdrawkcabUKEven if what you’re saying is true, it isn’t relevant, why would it matter if Britain handed the land over to the UN if they also pledged support to zionists in the creation a Jewish state on Palestinian territory, which they’ve stuck to for most, if not all of Israel’s existence.
Boris Johnson looks like a homeless guy in a park.
That is what homeless people said about him. Lol
Tories finding a new way to become even more unpopular
If they wanted to get votes, they might want to consider being pro gaza, that is a way they could get slightly more popular. (Im neutral).
Yeah, how can we be even more out of touch with how our people feel
@@The_asexual_masochist If they were in touch with what the people feel, or if they cared even in the slightest, they would resign and hold a general election immediately.
Starmer will do the same, both English nationalist parties support genocide, Tories and Labour are the same in this issue.
Indeed, every time I think they cannot possibly get any lower, any more vile, they prove that I have underestimated them.
Zero Seats, ZERO SEATS, ZERO SEATS.
Hi, I know its a minor detail and all, but I think at 0:57 you included the wrong Labor Party article. The second one is talking about the Australian Labor Party, not the United Kingdom one.
You're right I just glanced over it never realised why Bob Carr was there lol
It’s not minor..
That’s AI for you 😂
That’s not minor at all… how can a mistake like that even get through production?
@@electric5078 Either a) deliberately to boost engagement traffic like these comments, or b) because TLDR has grown too far, too fast, to produce content with reasonable care and scrutiny over its accuracy. The errors are so consistent that I actually believe it's the former, though I'm not impressed either way.
Because everything is dividing the Tories.
EVERYTHING.
History divides them, ever since Disraeli formulated a macho version of the Liberals' interventionism.
That means good.
and even this fact of course is dividing them
The tories would be divided when trying to solve division.
@@utilitarian I now want to review Disraeli's math homework, thanks for making me more neurotic.
It seems completely absurd that the government can apparently only be prosecuted for its crimes should it be found in contravention of legal advice it never has to publish... What argument even exists for the government not being _mandated_ to publish something so vital?
"Security" is the magic word. Say that an action is in the interests of national security and you get exception to all kinds of law otherwise being broken.
Because it would immediately politicize the lawyers serving in that capacity. It's the same reason the U.S. Supreme Court appointments are for life. It makes the court largely immune to being swayed by raucous politics, allowing it to deliberate on the Constitution and law with clarity.
@@patrickproctor3462But it appoint by president
@@tiglishnobody8750 No, the Supreme Court is appointed by consent of Congress. The President only nominated candidates.
You can be pretty sure if they won't publish the legal advice that they are not following it.
David Cameron having a crisis-of-consequence is hilarious
Is he? It seems like he always saw Gaza for what it is a prison. He is a good man who just made a mistake with Brexit. He is my favourite Tory leader.
No support for the genocidal ethnostate. 🇬🇧 🇵🇸
@Ihatehandlesfashyyoutube yeah, you realise the British public are not on the side of Israel right? The government are embarrassing us all.
@Ihatehandlesfashyyoutube the British public are not on Israels team. The government are a disgrace.
See if it's deleted again RUclips....
to say Israel isn't breaking international law at this point is very willfully blind
@@jwal2 yep I looked it up that's articles 51 and 54 of the Geneva convention broken
literally who cares
@@S.P.Q.R.117 me, I think international law is important particularly when it comes to human rights.
@@S.P.Q.R.117 - people that have a heart usually do
It is not wilfully blind, it is downright dishonest.
But hey, we're used to that from our government. It would be more of a surprise if they told the truth.
When Braverman says something or someone is absolutely not in breach of international law, you know it is in breach with international law.
No you don't.. That's just your lefty opinion! 🤡
@@englanduk6131, facts are different than opinions. Your reply was an opinion. You're the weakest link, goodbye.
@@Bruce954 to the contrary I was stating a fact that you gave a lefty opinion!!!
We should just leave Israel to fend for itself instead of dragging us into their problems.
Says someone supporting terrorists
@@HyperScorpio8688 give it up will ya. you have lost all good faith of the whole world
@@HyperScorpio8688 this is the same shit people said for the last 20 years, it doesnt work anymore
@@mistermood4164 I'm not sorry for calling Hamas a terrorist organization. The fact that people like you support them is damning to the human race.
@@computerfri3nd I mean Hamas has been a terrorist org for way longer...
More splits in the party, completely unfit to govern home and abroad
Even at expenses of British Citizen lives, this is utterly insane. Netanyahu's tenure is more crucial than the lives of its own citizen
Netanyahu is vastly more ethical than the British supremacists and all the Muslim fascists in Qatar they prostitute themselves to.
As if UK knows what's best for Israel LOL
David Cameron acknowledging Palestine is an open air prison is crazy. Might be the only genuine thing he's ever said.
It's weird why these people take so long to see Gaza as it is. Perhaps it's because I'm an avid viewer of the World War 2 channel by Time Ghost History and I forced myself to watch the War Against Humanity series but the parallels have been clear to me from the first few weeks.
Nobody can watch War Against Humanity and not feel appalled when they see the numbers and ruins from Gaza
Because it's 🤍 supremacy colonization
Turn Israelis into Muslims and all of a sudden no one will care.
They have strong incentives not to see it as it is. Like money.
@@alexc4924 ah yes the Jews and their money. no antisemitism here guys.
Need to look at things the way a Tory would - transactionally - is your country gaining anything in your transactional relationship with Israel? Right now, I would say no.
Awesome video, very high quality
Did u not see the mistakes. Rubbish QC
“Can we lawfully sell arms to Isreal? And yes that is the case […]” a very strange line of argument given that the conservatives have shown a willingness to neglect legality when it suits them (Rwanda, patygate, tax evasion, etc).
Tax avoidance is legal, Rwanda hasn't happened yet due to legal challenges so they are using primary legislation to make it legal, and they got small fines for breaking the law with partygate. Any government of a democratic country will care about the law that constrains them.
@@catmonarchist8920 Note that I stated “evasion” which is most definitely illegal instead of “avoidance” which you have substituted in its place. With Partygate, as you agreed, they did break the law so no contention there I guess! With Rwanda I suppose your argument is something to the effect of “stuff those laws that constrain this democracy just change them to fit”. Does the team cognitive dissonance mean much to you? :)
if intentionally starving 2 million civilian refugees doesn't break International humanitarian laws, then what exactly is the point of International humanitarian laws? If you can do what Israel has very publicly done and not be in violation of them, then they are a sham and insisting that Israel hasn't breached them is a pointless defence
How many of these MPs are on the payroll or benefit from turning a blind eye to it? The same AIPAC influence in the US which dictates policy has permeated the British system.
What responsibilities does one country have to another, especially another which has ending your country in it's charter until 2 minutes ago?
@@SaintGerbilUK difference is someone saying they want to who never will be able to and another not saying so and committing the genocide the former states in its manifesto.
@@obisan666 So you have nothing to justify hamas beyond them being a smaller force. Israel have every reason to remove them, and there are always casualties in war.
@@kingofhearts3185 couldn't give a sh1t about a terrorist outfit.
The terror and genocide being inflicted on innocents by a nation state is despicable... something you probably find acceptable?
anything divides the tories at this point, no surprise but kinda stunned at how much they keep on infighting, like...bruh
"say maria" 😂
It is also wild that maggie did cut off aid and she is worshipped yet they omit it
Let's be honest, you could make this video for all the political parties.
Genuinely left wing parties are unequivocal in their rejection of settler colonial and apartheid states.
@@cianmcguire5647 Genuinely left wing parties have nothing to lose so can say exactly what they think. Because of alliances and diplomacy mainstream parties can't do that, even if they despise what is going on.
@@cianmcguire5647 nice a bunch of buzz words
Israel has 2 million Arab citizens with full rights. that means the divide is clearly not race based. so it completely falls out of the definition of apartheid.
@@ghosthunter0950
Sure and you're not a racist if you have two Black friends while you discriminate against all other Black people any time you can.
Israel is an apartheid regime until all Palestinians including those living as refugees in other places and their descendants have full human rights respected and are free to live, work and travel anywhere in historical Palestine with no checkpoints to go through and no harassment or arbitrary arrest by Israeli police or soldiers and when all those Palestinians have full rights to vote and run for election.
To claim that there is no apartheid because a small minority of Arab people have some rights is ludicrous, disingenuous, disturbing and offensive.
Apartheid is gone only when all Palestinians have full rights.
I imagine that if you lived in Alabama in the 1840s you would claim that there was no racism against Black people in the southern states because some of the Black people were free .
@@ghosthunter0950 In this vein then no country with Jewish citizens could be called antisemitic surely?
“Buzzwords” is an interesting way to describe your own ignorance to or incomprehension of decades of blatant war crimes and violations of international law by Israel.
Thank you for this video.
However, using footage of Gaza being “unsafe” to segue into an ad for NordVPN feels in poor taste.
Netanyahu : i supported hamas to divide palestine.
The torries : hold my beer mate.
Why would anyone feed and give power or water to your enemy who what's you dead?.😂
With such profound thinkers like suella haterman and Lord frosty balls on one side. I am sure they can't be wrong.
and Labour is being divided too, hope it continues and leads to a new left party
If you’re leftist, it’s not smart to want your vote split in half. You’ll get nothing done.
Like the one that won in Rochdale recently?
What a labour party who has socialist clues and cares about the welfare of Britain, that's extremist
Look, that would just split the vote, and due to most seats that labour won and will win are won by 5 percent or lower, new left party would just secure tory victory due to vote splitting, maybe once Labour abolish FPTP and implement proportional representation then that would make sense but currently its not in the interest of the Left
@@kingmasterfilip2965 For "once" they introduce PR, read "if". It's a paradox - a party that is in power under FPTP and *can* change the voting system is disincentivised to *want* to change it. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but I don't expect Labour to change how MPs are elected during their next term(s) in power.
The Boris Johnson clip is insane how does his appearance become more and more like he's just eaten something unpleasant
Actively supporting Jen-o-side tends to make people not agree with you. Surprising, I know!
There is a lot of politics in that map alone. . .
How does TLDR ensure they're not breaching any copyright laws when putting these clips into their videos?
One of those news stories about 50 Labour MPs is Australia not UK Labour
Tories Has to leave no one need you Bye.
I just can't keep up with the tory party problems. There's a big issue almost by the hour at this point
Tories and Labour 🌹 both "the 2 sides of the same butt cheeks." - George Galloway
MP for Gaza.
You know why those who want a continued arms sales and export? It would be bad for business if the cut the trade. And besides, its the country who gets sanctioned and not the businesses and lobbyist.
Addendum: they should penalize lobbyist and business too. If Scotland can make unconstitutional and silly laws, so can UK.
Let's face it, everything is dividing up the Tories. I would not be surprised if their walkout over argument, if they should have Tea or Coffee during an inner party meeting.
Say Maria? Ok, Maria. It's actually Sah-MAY-ria
0:58 the Guardian screencap is about Australian Labor, not UK Labour…
Sounds like Rwanda all over again
The IDF is not prosecuting a war they are clearly prosecuting a Genocide. There is no care given at all when you murder 33,000 unarmed civilians it’s not war. By definition a war requires TWO armies. Netanyahu’s idea of not killing civilians could have been argued by Meisinger who was in charge of Warsaw.
Were did ou get the figure 33k unarmed civilians, i think you meant 33k combined deaths
But they had enough army on October 6th right? If Hamas took over Israel than they would be doing far worse. No genocide is happening not in Gaza at least they don't kill them on mass there is no large amount of Jews being shipped in other than troops and they said after the war they want a Islamic republic in Gaza.
Worst genocide in history btw. If Israel wanted to, the genocide would've happened long ago, and there wouldn't be a Hamas right now
Truth is, there are almost as much Arabs in Israel and Palestine as there are Jews. In the Israeli state, 20% of citizens are Arabs, and enjoy full citizenship, rights and liberties. This is not an apartheid!
Meanwhile, the Palestinian authority, not to mention Hamas, show no indication of wishing to live alongside the Israeli state. A two state solution is what our nations need. But if one of these two states keeps yelling "from the river to the see" and demanding the destruction of the Jewish state as a whole, there can be no solution.
That'sa great and all but Russia has killed over 100k in Ukraine, where is your voice about that? Oh, that's a war, you say? No, the only difference is Ukraine has a sizeable army, Hamas does not. Doesn't change that Russia literally walked into the country and started mass killing people, as well as deliberately targeting civilians
You're a clown if you think 33k of them were unarmed and innocent and you definitely a clown if you think that hamas didn't instigate this war they're just facing the consequences of their own actions and you ignoring this is either just plain ol antisemitic or you're or just very clearly ignorant and don't know what's happening in this region and just talking out of your ass
no, you say maria
Dividing?! Where 😂😂
@4:42 the fig pucker has a point there
can you do a video on how Infosys is getting billions from the Gazza oil? And how this (rishi's wife company) is influencing government policy?
UK is going down😢😢😢😢😢
BEN IT'S TIME
Say Maria, Ben. Or maybe SamARia.
What’s the maximum worst case scenario for the Tories in the election? Both results and aftermath.
Zero seats and the dissolution of their party I imagine.
The important thing is whether they are the official opposition or not, ie the 2nd largest party. The official opposition gets much more speaking time in parliament and a lot of money for staff. Also important is whether they are the second party in individual seats. If someone else becomes the party to vote for if you don't like the labour government then they could be out of power much longer.
Worst case for the Tories would be what happened to the Canadian conservative party in the 90's, where they fully collapsed, the modern conservatives are actually a complete different political party then the one before 1993.
Dividing Labour too
They'd never have a video showing Labour as being bad, haven't you realized that they don't cover Labour unless they have too and then do it late on the rare occasion?
They have absolutely covered labour's split on this issue before and reminded of it at the start of this video.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 yes, they always mention it as the lesser story, what's worse an internal disagreement or your "supporters" spraying red paint on your building.
@@SaintGerbilUK 1. Tories are the party in power 2. They showed how dissent is running in Labour in this video. 3 They have already covered the issue
@@lionel6283 where?
Not on the main channel, buried in one of the less popular ones no doubt.
Thanks that makes my point for me.
The word "Samaria" is pronounced "suh-mere-ria"/s'meəriə/ in English.
The video on 2:05 is fake. It's a real video, but has nothing to do with Oct 7.
oh so it's just normal hang gliders in that video?
@@lux2094idk about this video in specific but this is so common from Israel propaganda to post videos from Ukraine, Russian military interference elsewhere in previous years, or they’ll show terrorist attacks but it’s like a video from Iraq.
@@lux2094 Paragliders, hanggliders have stiff wings while paragliders are soft and can be stuffed in backpacks, like parachutes.
@@katnicole7274unlike Gazawood where they create videos of people who have lost their family, only to see them again next week with a different video and the same story.
@@SaintGerbilUK just learning from their oppressors 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ if Israel can get away with lies to justify ethnic cleansing then why can’t Palestine make videos to defend against it?
Isn't it good thats its dividing the Tories, in relation to democracy? It means a good democratic process can take place unlike in Labour where Starmer has outsted everyone that is against his stance and made everyone one of his lackies and therefore lacks any democratic process.
@0:47 well that's because famine as a weapon is part of British administration
Keir starmer is so horrendously horrible and evil, i miss Jeremy Corbyn! He cared about the people and was wrongfully smeared.
uk: two state solution right guys
israel: no
uk: umm..........
....UK: please?
Israel: No
UK: Pretty please?
Israel: No
UK: But I'm gonna lose voters if there is no ceasefire and no two state solution
Israel: Tough 💩
You act as if Israel spend a decade trying, and Palestinian leaders a decade rejecting.
@@ef888 like bibi ever tried lol, the Palestinian leaders are just either listening to the israeli civil affairs or doing very little, when is the last time a PLO member did something substantial? oh yeh when they gave up trying
@@ehannasir8464 No, Bibi didn’t. But Bibi isn’t Israel, Bibi does not own Israel. There was an entire decade (1999-2009) when Bibi was out of power and when SERIOUS attempts were made by successive Israeli governments to reach a two state solution, either bilaterally or unilaterally. The Israeli government in 2000 under Ehud Barak put forward to Arafat probably the most generous proposal they’re ever likely to put forward in the 21st century, he got 99% of what he claimed he wanted wanted, including control of East Jerusalem which shocked a lot of people. Arafat rejected it and went to war. A similar proposal was put forward by Ehud Olmert to Mahmoud Abbas in 2008, which he rejected. The reason Netanyahu (who I don’t like btw) has been so electorally successful is because he’s essentially been proven right. He’s said for decades that he doesn’t really believe the Palestinian leadership are interested in a 2 state solution, and the Palestinian leadership have never missed an opportunity to prove him right. And Hamas btw have been staunchly opposed to a two state solution for its ENTIRE existence including throughout the Oslo peace process.
@@ef888 ah yes the PLO said no to having a fraction of the west bank they were promised to eventually get all back, with the US always there to support israel even as it pushed more and more unfavourable terms. Also hamas has been open to a two state solution for almost 7 years now, repeatedly saying so and often too but everyone just seems to not know still. Those 'serious' attempts to get a two state solution were to scared to even demolish all the illegal settlement some of which are now 20 years old. OH and the laws still haven't changed you know the ones that make it so Palestinians have less rights in the west bank and in israel it's self.
"Israeli government in 2000 under Ehud Barak" giving what 55% of the land to israel + key areas like wells and farm land which in fact is not "99%" of what they wanted, this is was just as clear sign working with israel even at their most generous doesn't work because they don't want a sustainable peace, just a peace where they come out on top.
The new tactic . Act like they are divided while a genocide happens in front of our eyes .
Very well spotted 😮
This sounds like what is happening with the far right republican party simultaneously. Unfortunately there is so much lobby money involved. Do you have lobbys doing the same as well? Would love a video on outside financial incentives politicians use.
Is it dividing the tories? I thought to be a tory mp (and a labour mp too) you HAD to be a Friend of Israel. Are they not all FWB to one another with Netanyahu? 😂
Glass of juice
What war bro I only hear about one side dying other the other just fine I don't think that is how war works, I am from somalia ik what war actually looks like
Just because one side is smaller or incompetent doesn't mean it isn't war.
Seriously, what ISN'T dividing the Tories these days?
FREE PALESTINE!
Everything these days divides the tories
While that's true this issue is more dividing Labour, an internal dispute is hardly spraying a building with paint.
But gotta spin that story.
@@SaintGerbilUK Yeah that’s a mess for labour as well but for labour they can somewhat appease their wings with the fact they are probably gonna slaughter the tories at the polls
This is especially funny since the UK barely has any power over Israel. What the US says goes
Lol US have no power evidently they take heading from Tel aviv
But they still send them arms ?
For free?
0:41 allegedly??
it seems more like fear if they criticize israel. Reminds like aparthied south africa
A fart could divide the Tory party...
It does not take much...
Say maria?
Israeli """Defence""" Force
only this channel can paint the labour party questioning israel more than the tories who are strong and united in favor of genocide as a bad thing for labour as if being united for genocide is a good thing lmao
At this point David Cameron should just go ahead and declare himself a member of 'Queers for Palestine'
Hahahahaha!
I mean, it'd be incredibly based
Why is Braverman so worthless?
Why isn't Pakistan dividing the tories? Turkey? Jordan?
We know why 😂😂
Antisemitism vs Islamophobia 💀💀💀
People keep associating the genocide with both, but the reality is that even if what was happening to the Palestinians was done by Muslims, they’d still be fighting them. Zionists just love victimizing themselves under antisemitism. I’d favor calling it bigotry.
It’s not a war, there’s no opposing army
Yes, there is - Iran-funded Hamas is the opposing force.
Who is shooting back in the videos and stashing the arms.
@@SaintGerbilUK Robocops.
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated that just Robophobic.
Vlagyimir Putyin not break any roles
When you're an occupier you're not defending yourself you are in effect the accressor.
The jews of the area have been attacked for over a century, long before Israel was ever created. They've always been defending themselves. Don't forget that this is their homeland.
@@kingofhearts3185The Palestinians have been there even longer. Genetic records show they share the same ancestors as the Jewish Israelis, meaning they are likely even the descendents of the original inhabitants who didn't leave.
they were living in harmony with all other people, go educate yourself rather than spitting out lies that make you feel easy@@kingofhearts3185
@@kingofhearts3185 just read "Der Judenstaat" by Theodor Herzel, it's colonization.
@@kingofhearts3185 the last time they were prosecuted was the crusades. Your info is wrong.
Black british is a funny thing to say and see
Timestamps!!!??
Abas steels money from Gaza
Tdlr really put here using Boris johnson quotes for "balance " kind of pathetic 😊
Why borris Johnson looks like a homeless guy
Primless minister.
TLDR News has started to become my daily watch. Thanks for unbiased reporting!
I like you guys but you're reporting on this has not been amazing. You don't have to use the settler term for the West Bank it confuses the audience and plays into their hands. Simply it's not an accurate description. Not going to even dive into the international law angle.
Please can you lower the volume of your jingle?
I listen to your channel with headphones and the overall volume is not well balanced. I.e. low volume narration, jarringly high volume of the jingle
My vote will be to those who support PALESTINE
Thank you TLDR
Lord Cameron 🤮
Lloyd Austin is complicit in genocide
Cameron is Hamas protector
Is surprising see Bristow actually do something, wonder where this sudden humanity has sprung from???
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Союзники Украины считают честью, а не бременем, поддерживать Украину. Все за одного.
Ответственность за войну в Украине и любую эскалацию несёт Россия.
Заявления и действия России подтверждают, что под термином "переговоры" она подразумевает промежуточный этап поставленных ранее преступных задач.
На примере Украины Россия говорит всему мировому сообществу: мы за мир, при условии, что будем делать всё, что хотим, с кем хотим и где хотим; будем брать всё, что хотим, у кого хотим и где хотим. Мир, предлагаемый Россией, - это брошенный всем на планете вызов и поощрение для тех, кто способен подобное повторять.
Развязка войны в Украине имеет последствия для мира во всём мире и заключается в отказе России от преступных целей.
Чтобы найти силы и волю для начала выхода из огромной катастрофы ненависти и войны, российскому обществу и руководству рекомендуется обратиться к декларируемым ими традиционным ценностям, элементарным основам морали и права.
Labour are heading for worse schism.... We expect unpleasantness from the Nasty Party.... But at least a morsel of integrity, courage and decency from the Labour team who are clearly Likud UK.
Unsurprising that Braverman doesn't understand International Law, considering she was almost always on the wrong side of it as Home Secretary
"ALLEGEDLY" denying food water and aid?
"I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Yoav Gallant - Israeli defence minister, October 9th 2023.
Get your house in order TLDR.
The defense minister was obviously talking about a cut-off of supplies originating in Israel. Why do you feel the need to lie about it?
@@CedarHunt
Nobody is buying your line, you genocide-denier.
"There are no innocent citizens in the Gaza Strip. It is an entire nation out there that is responsible,” President Herzog
Friday, October 13.
@@mmaximk Cope harder. Why do you feel the need to lie about the words of the Israeli defense minister if your cause is actually correct?
@@CedarHunt
The direct quote from minister Gallant speaks for itself.
Your attempt to qualify it defines you: a failed genocide-denier.
And what is hilarious, is that even under your false redefinition of his words, Israel is still guilty of genocide - so your oily, Goebbes-like attempt to cover the stench of genocide is a failure on its own terms.
@@CedarHunt
The direct quote from minister Gallant speaks for itself.
The fact that you feel the need to reinterpret the clear meaning of his words defines you as a genocide-denier.
What is additionally amusing is that even under your false reinterpretation, Israel is still guilty of genocide.
Zero precaution is actually being taken but lying makes it easier to defend their position of unconditional support
IDF: Israeli Defence Force
Also IDF: killing innocent civilians in territory that's not theirs