How the Tories Dropped Even Further
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The Tories getting 155 seats still baffles me. Why on earth, after the last 14 years of utter Tory chaos, would anyone still vote for them?
Because Conservatives.
Because there's a large number of people (especially those in the 65+ age range, or a higher household income) who believe they disagree enough with Labour policies to overlook the Tory's internal party problems.
@notsolm. I am a pensioner and will not be voting Tory or Labour
@@notsolm Funnily enough if you use the data from Labour right now, they really aren't that dissimilar to the Tories. Two cheeks of the same arse!
Because the alternative is to vote Labour
155 seats. Is 155 more than they deserve.
What do you mean? The UK kept voting for them. It is the english population at large that are the cause behind this. Not so much Scotland or Northern Ireland. But England and their inhabitants who never failed to vote in leaders who tried to combine far-reaching neoliberalism with liberal immigration policies and blamed the results from the experiment on the European Union. Largely the story.
What I am trying to say is... what the Tories did, does have democratic mandate. After all, they kept winning the elections, am i right?
@@emilsohn1671 nope, none of their recent policies were in any manifesto, and they could have put daily Ritual infanticide in the manifesto and people would have voted for it because they wanted and end to the Brexit story (we'd still like that but it's not it's not happening any time soon) and "Get Brexit Done" drowned out "he's a liar, a narcissist and an idiot" sadly.
@@emilsohn1671 I'm aware they won a mandate, but just because they did. Doesn't mean they deserve it. I mean name 1 thing that has actually gotten better in the last 14 years.
@@emilsohn1671 Tories liberal inmigration policies? WTF?
@@mendez704 We are not necessarily or even mainly talking open borders. London has for decades been wide open to questionable rich people from all over the earth, and so has the rest of the UK. Few questions asked. That surely hasn't helped on property prices or house ownership options for the natives. The tories sold the brits out to the highest bidder quite consistently for so long is where I am getting at. Ironically, it all happened with the consent and democratic mandate of the british electorate which for some reason keeps voting conservative. You will be hard pressed to find anyone with a greater stockholm syndrome in the West than the english voterbase.
> "Unprecedented 403 seats."
> Has 418 in 1997.
Its unprecedented because the torries are losing more.
Just goes to show, its really the Tories shitting everywhere and ruining their chances rather than Labour being an appealing option.
u dont need quotations "" in a quotation >
@@breadbaskets2772 Sadly, he literally said 'an unprecedented 403 seats'.
@@love1love3love If people want to be obtuse, then it should also be noted that 403 is not 417, so unless there is a past election when Labour got exactly 403 seats, it is literally unprecedented.
Zero seats, zero seats, zero seats...!
I think it would be funnier if they kept a few seats just to troll
truss did what labour failed to do, make the tories unpopular
@@ehannasir8464Rishi is doing that all by himself
@@leehenry5764 yh lol
@@henreereeman8529yeah lol imagine if it was just Rees-mogg or smthn all by himself
"And starmer could be set to win an unprecedented 403 seats" - there's literally a barchart on-screen showing them with 418 seats in 1997
I'm guessing no party ever won EXACTLY 403 seats 😁
@@rafaelmartinvannostrand2084 technically unprecedented I guess!
I feel like since the pandemic "unprecendented" has just become a meaningless media buzzword. Even the pandemic itself wasn't unprecedented as there have been worse pandemics in the past.
I bet they'll get more than 418 this time.
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ZERO SEATS LADS SAY IT WITH ME
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"bad news" for Rishi means leaving London for LA and getting a new investment banking job
With the UK burning behind him…
Average conservative nutter
What makes 403 seats "unprecedented" given that in 1997 they won 418? Sounds precedented to me.
The swing could be "unprecedented" but it is a bit of a stretch
Literally came here to say the same thing 😂 it would also be slightly fewer seats than 2001. Why are we just throwing out words like they don't mean things
I paused the video just to say that very thing. Actually pointed at 418 and said "seems precedented to me" to an audience of nobody.
Beat me to it, I think they just like saying the word and slip it in whenever they think they can.
@@markanderson6279 I guess it's technically without precedent because nobody has ever won specifically 403 seats...
The fact that Reform would have a decent % of the total vote share but would get no seats just demonstrates how terrible and unrepresentative a system first past the post truly is.
proportional representation NEEDS to be adopted, LD, REF and GRN are the only parties pushing for the adoption of PR
They need to get the polling up to at least 20%, if Nigel comes back its possible.
@@maccagrabme they're not far off, if Nige comes back on the political stage then that's the end of the Tories
Democracy at its core is problematic, republicanism, in its current form, just makes it even worse!
It sounds that way, but it is much less worse than the alternatives.
With the constituency system, each area has an MP, who is responsible for their area and accountable to their electors. As we have seen, they have the ability to depose an MP if they are underperforming. And we elect the person rather than the party, so an MP can resign the whip and change parties if they wish, as paradoxically Reform has allowed Lee Anderson to do.
Under proportional representation, one votes for a party, so we cannot depose our MP; and indeed the party leader is virtually guaranteed a seat with just 0.6% of the votes; we do not get someone to look after our area, so a party could focus in one region to get enough votes rather than worrying every area.
And when one looks to Reform's hated EU, most nations have PR and many end up with no overall control and some go months without a government at all. The need to horse trade rather than full power also sees a mishmash of policies to please all parties that can often contradict each's goal.
In short, as Churchill said (ish), "it is the worst form of government - except for all the others that have been tried."
How can like 27% of the votes just disappear like that, I hate that system, same thing in Spain, keeps up the quasi-2 party system artificially strong
You cant seriously be suggesting this is the first time you realized FPTP is bullshit?
Note that the problem in Spain is different, bigger districs (like based on the Autonomous Communities) would be much more representative than the teeny tiny districts based on the provinces.
@jonsmith5058 1) nothing they said implied that they only just started to hate FPTP
2) FPTP actually HAS progressively gotten worse over time, its always been bad but the % of voter unrepresentation due to FPTP over time has only increased as the general public have started voting 3rd party more often due to exhaustion with the 2 party system, which ultimately ends up being a "wasted" vote due to FPTP.
all of the votes except for the guy that wins a seat "dissapear"
Well here in nepal we have combined fptp and proportional representation. Trust me this will create much instability due to need of unstable coalition
Not sure about your use of 'unprecendented' describing a graph that displays the clear precedent.
Beat me to it 🤣🤣
They never had 403 :)
@@robertpv6639 I'm dull enough to appreciate that technicality. Objection withdrawn!
Go look at the boundary changes...
@@SocialDownclimberwith that kind of technicality, I wonder how many times I've eaten an unprecedented number of, say, rice grains, in one sitting.
ZERO. SEATS.
The big business party losing support from big businesses? You must have lots of serious problems to get to that stage
Without them it’s just the party, and considering Boris, that makes a lot of sense
1:55 What disturbs me most is how Tories could even be left with as many as 155 seats after their history since Thatcher.
You misspelled Twatcher.
Mainly cos the way Labour handled 2008 was really unpopular, which made everyone swing right again.
The Tories messing up fixing the economy post-Covid is just a repeat of history.
Z E R O S E A T S
Amazing how anyone can bash thatchers legacy when comparing Britain in 1979 to 1999
@@lewis123417 thatcher's legacy? like shipping jobs to china and africa due to their non-existent labour standard so those corps can make even higher profits than they already did??
Don't say unprecedented when something is precedented.
One vote for the Whories is five votes too many.
They will still get 8m or so votes, which is absurd
Thank you. Seeing them called Whories made me chuckle.
Haha, Whories. 5 points to You.
Wh0res didnt like this comparison.
They are absolute ucking farseholes
It’s still 155 too many. They need to be punished & relegated to a minor party that doesn’t even have the credentials of the official opposition
As an observer from across the pond, it seems that the UK has the same proportion, about 20% of your population that is like the ones we have in the USA. Low awareness of the facts, extremely nationalistic, & highly xenophobic. They are angered by their lack of economic well-being so they believe that their betterment can only happen if they can demonize minorities, immigrants, the homeless, etc. They are quick to agree with any cultural war statements & will back any populist politician.
I don't think that would be good for UK democracy. There should always be a credible opposition to keep the incumbent party in check, and there isn't really any alternative to the Tories at the moment. Otherwise you end up with situations like Mexico with the PRI.
@@Croz89Yes, but a bunch of xenophobic right wing toffs are not it.
@@Croz89 oh absolutely that’s why I support PR but the conservatives need to face the consequences & that means being reduced down to nothing that they hopefully can never come back from.
@@Fredric_Cedrich Then we need a centre right party to replace them. At the moment the only choice is Reform UK so... yeah.
It's not that people would be voting for Labour as much as against the Tories.
That's not a good win, and it's not a mandate which Labour will claim afterwards.
It sounds very similar to the 1906 election - massive landslide for the main opposition but that same party was basically gone just 10 years later.
Imagine the landslide if they had some good, positive policies? Some real plan for restoring good relations with our neighbours (the EU), sorting out the systematic instructural rot and plunder. Possibly even investigation into the criminality of our leaders for the last 14 years...where did the Russia report go for example? But even just a hope for a degree of competence and less corruption is enough to fuel this epic landslide...and a desire to punish.
Can we stop giving labour any praise for this win? You need to be delusional to think that Kier Starmer isn't just filling the "Not the Tories" role. He could be 3 rocks in a trench coat and still beat the tories at this point.
True, I still want to vote for ANYONE ELSE besides Tories or Blairites.
@@CloudWalkBeta He is just a red torie though so NOTHING will change
@@Grayggiven the state of the Tory Party right now even a "red tory" has a hell of a lot of clear water between them and the current Tory Party. Not as much as I'd like but there's significant differences in policy there
@@Grayg Be VERY careful thinking that way. Many in the USA thought the same way about our Democrats and look what we got instead - extreme right-wing nut jobs disrupting our government while all slavishly devoted to what Dear Leader DT says.
That's still a damning indictment on the sad state of the Tories.
How is Reform getting 15% of the vote in opinion polls but 0 seats?
Because first past the post is a terrible system
First past the post, it’s the system the U.K. uses. It’s simply just the largest party in each constituency gets the seat. The system favours geographical concentrations of voters like the SNP but hinders parties that have a spread out appeal like the Greens, UKIP, Reform.
@@allenkennedy99 to win a seat you need to win a constituency. That means they need to come first place in at least 1 contest to get a seat. They are not polling first place in any constituency but they still have votes in most constituencies.
Because of the way we elect MPs. Our system sadly isn't very democratic at all. We use a simple majority and the first party with enough MPs wins the election. This leads to rounding errors where a party can have a significant number of votes but because they are diluted into different constituencies it's never enough to get an MP. Knowing this the major parties often redraw the boundary lines to deliberately dilute votes from opposition parties to make it more difficult for them to get MPs. This is called Gerrymandering. Forget Brexit, the worst outcome of a referendum in our lifetime was in 2011 when we failed to get voting reform.
Because the country is not a real democracy
This is why we need PR, I disagree with Reform but to get more votes than the Lib Dem’s but no seats is unfair.
REF, LD and GRN are th only parties advocating for PR, you might not like REF but vote LD or GRN if you are that way inclined, they all want a complete shake up of the voting system
0:29 Unprecedented? You are literally showing the results of a previous election where Labour exceeded this projection!
I guess they were trying to say that the swing of seats from conservative to labour is "Unprecedented" which is above 200 seats which is unprecedented.
First, a position the Tories will never be again
I wouldn't be so sure. People love believing sweet little lies. When told by a currently unknown Tory they'll fall for it all over again some time in the future.
I'll take 2 to 1 on them winning most seats at 2029 election if you are offering.
Never say never, alot of people have a shockingly short memory
@@danielwebb8402you’re long off at 33%
Labour will be in for ten+ then it will Tory again, just the cycle of politics
I really don't want labour to win, but I really want the tories to have ZERO SEATS!
I hate I'm being taxed out of home and have no representation
I hope we're voting L.D
@@sirgaz8699Vote Lib Dem?
They wont fix brexit either@@bbd121
@@sirgaz8699 Same, am moving back to international waters just to survive...
Sunak sitting on a mini kids table and it looking normal sized 😂😂
This should be Blue Tories v Red Tories, the Labour party is not Labour any more.
How labour do the labour party need to be in order for you to consider them labour? How do measure How labour, labour is?
by measuring the backgrounds and character of their members.
Most labour MP's came from the same privileged schools the posh twit Tories usually come from. Majority of them are cut from the same cloth.
The same privileged back grounds that completely divorce them from understanding common people they are meant to represent.
Most labour MP's do not rule with any benevolence for common people, they have served the interests of other rich and elite in corrupt fashion.
And most of the previous Labour MP's who were in touch with average people are either retired, or they were expelled by the Blairites.
There's virtually no real opposition to the tories anymore, just 1 posh twit talking to another posh twit and the 99% of us common folk have to pick up and pay their tabs every time.
We were already used to tories being a bunch of rich self serving twats who believe their being born into wealth gives them divine right to rule.
But when Tony Blair transformed Labour into rich self serving twats it completely stabbed the common people in the back.
To the 99% of us normal people, neither the red or blue party represents us, very similarly to the conditions that sparked the French revolution, the common people's votes were often vetoed by the aristocrats and the religious factions.
A reform is clearly needed and many of us would rather vote for any alternative to Tory or Labour today since both are so corrupt and no longer represent anything we can relate to.
@@lukepardoe2583 The left opposition. They need to be left wing to provide balance and decision. Not Tory Light edition[TM]
@@Mastersharkmapping They should be economically center left and socially conservative, unfortunately its the opposite
@@igorlopes7589 why socially conservative? That makes no sense!
I fully support the tories zero seats campaign, They just might pull it off
The poll finding Starmer to be trustworthy despite him u turning on every promise he made to become labour leader and virtually every pre election policy, is the funniest thing ivet heard all day and reinforces that British democracy is a becoming a joke.
Could always fund and vote for the monster raving loony party, get more clowns in!
We might even get a laugh track added into parliament! Just what Blairite's Labour always needed.
@@CloudWalkBeta comparing the monster raving loony party to the actually monsters and clowns in parliament is a direct insult to every member of the monster raving loony party. Please do not use such harsh insults to people.
@@CloudWalkBeta i trust MRL to keep thier promises much more then i trust Starmer and Reeves.
@@Mastersharkmapping @WhiteManInAVan That sort of thinking is why the UK deserves to be saddled with the current government. You wish to destroy the good in a desperate search for the perfect. I have seen the same thinking in the USA. A lot of us voted for a third party and instead of a Democrat in 2000, we got eight years, a war, and the Great Recession under the Republicans. By the time we changed that, we ended up with the Tea Party movement, the Freedom Caucus and Donald T. Don't follow the same path.
"Rupert Murdoch is beginning to lean Labour"....WHAT?! 😵💫🥴💀
Don't be surprised he cozied up to Obama
And he had the Sun endorse Blair
Should be "lean on Labour".
Says all you need to know about Starmer's Labour party.
The devil incarnate now leans Labour, that means they’re definitely the party for me!!
If there was 418 seats 97 how is 403 unprecedented?
Because for the last twenty years we haven't had a strong majority and sometimes coalitions have had to take place
Because of the gerrymandering that has occurred with the constituency boundary changes which in theory should make it harder for anyone but the Tories to be able to take 400 seats.
@@solaireastora5394that doesn’t make it unprecedented. Unprecedented means there is not precedent and precedent just means that something comparable has happened before. Saying that it is unprecedented in recent elections would be fine, but that was not specified.
Guys, you just completely inverted the point of the article by Archie Bland. He was arguing that Labour shouldn't get obsessed with getting endorsements from the press, and that they should be trying to set the agenda rather than follow it.
I don't think these videos' authors have enough time or skill to understand what they're wriging about
What a low bar for Labour. Honesty and Authenticity numbers for Starmer are shocking.
The fact that Starmer and his top table were all cheerleaders for Corbyn seems to have been forgotten. 🤔
@@sciencebus3119 from cheerleader to back stabber.
Labour is just another tory party with red paint on it.
I'll cast my vote towards getting the rotten tories AND these traitor blairites out.
@@sciencebus3119 That's not correct, its a known fact that Corbyn was undermined by his own party which includes all current top members, hence why he was kicked out the party.
@@dankmememayn Yeah, after it turned out he was a Putin-loving anti-Semite. lol
@@TheAmericanPrometheus ah yes, like the many times he said antisemitic stuff.... Wait, when did that happen?
It's all because of the B word....................... they will NEVER recognise!!!!
And austerity.
@@CyclingSteve Just remember that attitudes can change dramatically. Look at the change in your country from 5 years ago. In Canada current polling show the Conservatives at 41% (205 seats) while the Liberal are down to 25% (79 seats) and the socialist New Democrats at just 18% (25 seats). Even 26% of 18-to-25-year-olds want to vote Conservative. In the USA 31% of people aged 18-to-25 want to vote for Republicans & Trump. Furthermore, 55% of Argentina just voted to get rid of left-wing parties & elected an open fascist. It is possible that that young people CAN turn against democracy & back a populist politician.
more like for being far too left wing.
That's far too many for the Tories.
Imagine if the tories were left with 1 seat after this...
Just like a OH K.O. pokémon using focus band
imagine if it were just liz truss
paradise
Don't threaten me with a good time 😂
One Seat? Is still too many. Let's aim for negatives!
Imagine the rout if Starmer was more charismatic
I think he´ll be a weak Prime Minister, he isn´t decisive etc.
Were, not was.
@@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu in informal speech, not using the subjunctive form of to be is entirely valid, and is largely unnecessary as the grammatical mood is made clear by the context almost always in spoken english
formality isn't always the desired effect people want their speech to have, especially in the present day
"Unprecedented"
What we want to the tories to do - be good with the economy, strong on crime, create a low tax, entrepreneurial business climate... they have totally failed on. Instead we're all poor, feeling unsafe and choking in red tape an taxes. So why would anyone vote for them?
Well actually, people want the ability to get a doctor's/dentist appointment when they need one. Not die while waiting for an ambulance after having a stroke or heart attack. Feel that a school won't collapse on their child, be able to have a chance to live in a safe house, not have seas and rivers filled to the brim with s*** and a govt not constantly trying to distract with stupid culture wars while people are suffering under a cost of living crisis, that they have done absolutely nothing to lessen because nearly all the govt are multimillionaires that are ridiculously out of touch with the public. But whatever floats your boat... 😂
Because Labour offer the opposite?
Turns out it's not possible to create a low tax, entrepreneurial business climate (whatever that even means). If you don't tax the rich they hoover up all the assets and impoverish the rest of us.
The fact the we have to accept Labour as an alternative to the tories is depressing…
Still gonna vote for the 3rd party options, we all want to get these disgusting blairites out of our parliament as well as the tories!
You folks in the UK should be careful want you wish for - a lot of us in the USA wished to be free of the Reagan Republicans in1992. We got our wish; they were all replaced by extreme right-wing nut jobs like the Tea Party Republicans & the Freedom Caucus. Now instead of very conservative Republicans we are ruled by people who want to get rid of all democracy and impose a Christian-Nationalist regime.
Reform is gaining momentum, consider voting for them
THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTER BELOW!
Zero SEATS!
Maybe this is golden opportunity for a voting amendment to introduce PR - under a PR system Sunak will still lose the election, but not down to 15%, so a massive majority government facing a total annihilation is the best chance for improving the electoral system.
Yeah, and that could've happened in 2011, if people didn't vote no for it for some reason
@@kingpig8732wait people did? Stupid brits...😊
@@kingpig8732they voted no because it would hurt labour and so called conservatives
Reform is the big wildcard that could really hurt the Tories
They are sapping votes from the Tories - but seem to be having little impact on Labour, Lib Dems etc, so are Reform really just Tory 2.0.
I’m in Barnsley North, and I’ll be voting reform!
The blue areas in Scotland are where a lot of non Scots reside
That is obvious, Scottish people will more likely vote labour or one of the flavours of SNP
I am more shocked about how much of wales is green
@@Solstice261 The green parts of Wales have a population of roughly 3 people and a dozen sheep
@@LordDim1 give the sheep voting rights plz
Ah, just plain old racism. Oh, and no true Scotsman fallacy... literally.
Sunak was in a losing position before he even became leader. Boris was ousted. he lost to Truss, and then was scrambled in to replace her and do what he can to stablise the proverbial party boat. if anything that is his win. he has done that, and the tories finally seem to be stable. What they don't seem to realise is people don't forget that easy. The man that was elected is no longer there. the party fell apart in the interim, and meanwhile Starmer has weathered multiple storms, has had some decent push back, made himself known at the times he has needed too. A Labour win will not be surprising. the surprise is by how much. If the tories want power back they have to remain stable throughout, and that might not be enough. as Starmer could potentially deliver some changes households feel for the good and earn him or Labour another term after the fact.
If you believe in Democracy you should support preferential voting.
or PR, REF getting 12-16% of the votes with 0 seats is not democracy at all
Proportional Ranked-Choice Voting is absolutely necessary to say the least
proportional ranked-choice voting ftw
Music to my ears
I find it interesting how they went from one of the biggest wins to the single worst loss in ages.
the power of the newspapers propaganda.
Murdoch has the power to make Corbyn lose, despite restoring Labour membership numbers back to before Blairite crippled Labour.
Now they lean towards their newest favourite puppet Keir Starmor, the next blairite in the making.
And seriously, you do NOT want him in power, a vote for a 3rd party will do far more good at this point.
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I think that the Libdems are further left then Labour, which is just red Tories.
How could they have won 418 seats in '97 and 403 would be "unprecedented"?! lmao
The weird thing is, no-one is voting Labour because they like them, because their leadership inspires people. No-one is voting labour because of their woke policies infact most British people detest that nonsense. People are turning to Labour because they've grown tired of the Tories, because of the global cost of living crisis and little growth / living wage in the UK. This is a protest vote. We really need a better alternative to Labour.
4:19 they're both having a race to 0% on who can be the most despised. Notice how it's all slumping down, yeah not a good sign for likeability.
the conservatives are really good right now at being hated. they are approaching the finish line, lets see if Starmer's hollow labour can catch up.
I don't think personally the tories will ever get back in again. Not unless they rebrand themselves at some point.
No they will. If you look at history for the past 140 years the UK has only ever been run by either Labour or Conservative with one case where lib dems with nick clegg split leadership but that didn't last long.
The fact is our political system is owned by two parties and any party that tries to get in they end up getting dirt dug up on them to reduce their chances.
You mean how they wouldn’t get back in power after 97?
It's disturbingly easy for that, I think. Labour will never repair all the harm in 5 years, meaning Tories can blame Labour in 2029 for not fixing the Tory mess, basically what they did in 2010 after the banking crisis.
@@cathallynch8269 both parties are as bad as eachother people need to look at this objectively.
They both need removing from power
Conservatives or better said far-right extremists all over the world are extremely good in getting comebacks again and again. They basically blame all the consequences of their own incompetence on the current government and gain back their mandates in the next elections. It happens everywhere, and it will happen here in Germany too. The biggest weakness of democracy is the short-term memory of most of the voters and media.
Sunak seems to have abandoned governing and are dedicated to desperate measures to simply stay in power. Sunak needs to call a general election. The people have had enough.
Have to say I love the compromise of keeping the highly marketable question-formatted title, but just putting in a speech bubble answer to it a few seconds in when the answer is obvious. Makes it feel like you're way more dialled in to how the audience is thinking when we know, and gives it a real TLDR feel for the people who might not! 😊
People are not voting for labour they are voting against Tories
Not possible to vote against a candidate but i see yr point
More seats means less power to factions, which I am hoping is a good thing because I have had enough of the fringes causing trouble.
The Tories currently hold many seats, yet the fringes still hold significant power. Could be an outlier though.
you think its good that red tory labour are going to have a completely unassailable majority that even a significant rebellion couldn't restrain? why?
How is Starmer winning 403 seats "unprecedented" if Tony Blair won 418 in 1997?
Zero seats!
Right Wingers see them as Left Wing
Left Wingers see them as Right Wing
No one wants them 😆
We can all agree that the Tories are a waste of space and need to go, thats something both sides can agree on. Reform for me.
@@maccagrabme reform uk has only one policy and thats blame migrants for every issue in society. the fact reform uk even has voters speaks a lot abt the lack of education investment in certain parts of the country
12% was just like UKIP pre-brexit referendum.
Its still rapidly rising its 13% now
@@pigeon5700 but still 0 seats because FPTP is as undemocratic as possible and gerrymandering to the extreme, I still question why in 2011 people voted against it
@@TedJM AV is better but still pretty awful since it keeps constituencies and is not proportional voting
What does it say about the state of British politics that a roughly 200 year old Australian billionaire has so much influence over shaping public opinion.
American here who checked out after Boris Johnson stopped being PM and I mean this in the most respectful way...
HOW are the tories still in power? Not even Thatcher was this unpopular when she stepped down in 1990...
So... Tory v.2024 will lose, but Tory v.2015 will still win. I wouldn't be surprised if Starmer appointed David Cameron to the cabinet at this point.
Starmer is basically a Tory with a red rosette.
I legitimately find it concerning how many commentators think the Tories are actually right wing when they've been nothing more than occasionally socially conservative Blairities.
Why is Northern Ireland never called on in these videos or maps. Noting Sinn Féin don't take their seats, give the role played by the DUP surely a cursory look is warranted. Wales and Scotland are covered.
The UK really needs to adopt proportional representation
Z E R O S E A T S
NPC cycle. Vote Labour. Labour do terrible. “Punish them” by voting conservative. Conservatives do terrible. Repeat cycle.
Meanwhile consistently unpopular policies like mass immigration get promoted by both parties for decades
NOOOOO, MASS IMMIGRATION GOOD, HOW DARE YOU OPPOSE DIVERSITY???? YOU SHOULD BE A MINORITY IN YOUR NATION AND BE GLAD FOR IT!!! F*SC1ST!
Said the same when Corbyn got cucked, he seemed to rile people up and then all of a sudden you get tory lite Keir who's bound to win next to keep the public trusting that voting does something. Guarantee labour win and then we get fucked more so when the next time comes round itll be pass the parcel back to the tories. The whole point of the government is to you know, GOVERN they seem to be doing everything but that imo.
You love to see it.
You said starmer was set to get an " unprecedented 403 seats" over a graphic showing Labour winning 418 seats in 1997
I had no idea in British politics there factions, within factions, within factions... Where i come from, unsubordinated party members are shunt and invited to leave the party, no point in having them as allies when they do a better job at making competition harder than the opposing party, also nobody wants a divided parties.
And just like that you defeat the purpose of a Parliament. If there are 5 parties and every member of each party votes the same way, why not reduce the number of people that we have to waste tax money on, and reduce the Parliament to 5 people with their votes being weighted according to the election results? That would make much more sense than paying 100x as many salaries to people that ultimately contribute nothing to the process.
6:03 ah that's it, the shiterags have switched their allegiances. And so the 2-party cycle continues. New Labour 2.0 here we go.
hello no, vote for the 3rd parties! The blairites as just as despicable as the tories!
When are the media events right
Britain needs proportional ranked-choice voting and Georgism tbh
sunak is doomed the more this goes on
Misleading sponsorship segments say a lot about your quality of journalism
let the man earn his money, most youtubers promote scams, just dont fall for it and let him pay his rent
the UK needs proportional ranked-choice voting to say the least
Just looking at Sunak makes me ANGRY!! Can’t stand him! 😡🤬
He has been so opportunistic, spewing all kinds of hatred. Not to mention the appointment of that VILE Braverman, the most hateful Home Secretary Britain has ever had!
Welcome to STARMERGEDDON......😂
okay that is quite funny
better than the sunakopalypse, but still not good at all.
That's the penalty for excluding Suella Braverman
I dont think you used the word "unprecedented" correctly. You called 403.seats for labor unprecedented while showing us a precendent from 1997 where they win more than that.
I want the tories gone desperately, but given Starmer has turned the Labour Party into the Tory-Lite party, I just can’t vote for him either.
vote in the 3rd factions! Lets disrupt this corrupt 2 party monopoly!
@@CloudWalkBeta yeah, it's a shame to see a decline in world-wide third parties, we need third parties to keep the main 2 parties in check
Days of UK are over. Blaming someone will not going to change that. Good luck with ola ho uber.
yep. looking to leave.
The tories are finished forever
Who takes their spot? Reform?
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Libdems at this rate 😂
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Hopefully
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 The libs
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 The 'hate everyone who isn't exactly like me' vote is split many ways.
saw another poll today saying the Tories will get 215 seats (can't remember which one but still a bad loss), plus the Times MRP poll had the SNP winning 41 seats. It goes to show how different polling companies are coming up with wide variations in the figures.
Zero seats, Zero seats, Zero Seats. Come on boys i can hear the music for the Conservatives
Listen I’m a left winger but the fact that so many people can vote reform and there is no representation in government shows everything wrong with first pass the post. PR NOW
yeah FPTP sucks, but even with ranked choice voting they would win zero seats at 15% polling in all liklihood
Neither Cons or Lab are competent to lead this counry. Our electral system sucks. Happy to vote Reform UK this time around. Hopefully a Maggie Thatcher will emerge before its too late!
Nothing indicates Reform are competent either, that's just blind faith.
I didn't know the "Good news of the day" got their own segment
Ten years I could phone my doctors and get a same day appointment without any appreciation for that being a good thing. It was just expected.
Now, it takes 2 hours for them to answer and the earliest appointment I was offered was 7 weeks later.
Roads are terrible.
My teacher friends have had frozen wages for 10 years.
I don't know much about politics but I know things that the government are responsible for have become far worse than how they inherited them.
I really hope labor can bring us back to at least where we were.
As someone who works for a Tory council. Good! Those Westminster *redacted* have under-funded our local services so much were nearly collapsing, local services are being cut, staff are being made redundant etc…and they pin the blame on us. How are we supposed to run with no money exactly?
side note, this is from my perspective within my council…but every council north on Westminster is disposable in the Tories eyes. We are all struggling. The tories need to go!
At this point Sunak just needs to call a GE and get it over with. The longer he holds out the worse the Tories trouncing at the polls is going to be. Tories need to re-invent themselves and this current generation of Tory leadership needs to retire. Relying on the votes of pensioners and incels is not a viable long term strategy
Murdoch follows public opinion in endorsing parties, to try to create a perception that his endorsement somehow contributed to the result
i cant tell whether rishi is just grossly incompetent, or a double agent for labour doing his best to sabotage the tories' chances in the election 😂
well labour certainly are gonna need a lot of help as well, because nobody likes the blairite turds either!
650 seats in the HoC in total
403-155=248
403-155-49-19=180
403-(650/2)=78
A foreigner here. Could someone explain to me, why it's called '154 seat majority'?
We are looking at projections here. If labour achieves 403 seats they have a majority in the house compared to the 247 seats other parties have. 403-247 is 156 which is pretty close to the 154. Perhaps when putting it in the calculator someone gave labour 1 less seat by accident and 402-(650-402) is 154 seats. Note that 403+155+49+19 = 626 and not 650, so the exact number is off and they should have focused on labour breaking 400 and tories dropping below their abysmal defeat in 1997.
when you've been so incompetent for so long...
something not talked about is how right labour has gotten. there is a reason why business is aligning with labour, they'll manage capital better and keep unrest down compared to the tories. but will things get better for the working class? for trans people? for palestinians and people who sympthize their plight?
That's why I hate them more, they're wearing the clothes of the working class but are in reality working for the ones in expensive suits, when a party supposedly representing the working class completely sells out and doesn't bother even humouring us anymore, that's when you know things are going to get much worse.
Yep, Starmer has dragged Labour to the right. Theyre just Tory-lite now. Starmer’s positions on helping the working class, on trans people and on Palestinians are virtually identical to Sunaks.
Yes, we all hate new labour, but since there doesn't appear to be any alternatives that don't end with Tories again people vote like Americans
Sunak doesn't understand what influences people or what the electorate wants. Each squirt of a policy idea backfires on him, each event evaporating more and more support.