Is the EU About to Recognise Palestine?
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Next week, Spain's Prime Minister, Pedro Sánchez will embark on a tour of Europe to push for the recognition of a Palestinian state. So in this video, we'll take a look at EU-Palestine relations, why some EU states want to recognise it, and whether the rest of Europe will follow suit.
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1 - www.theguardian.com/world/202...
2 - www.reuters.com/world/middle-...
3 - www.europarl.europa.eu/summit...
4 - www.realinstitutoelcano.org/e...
5 - pij.org/articles/1606
6 - ecfr.eu/article/recognising-p...
00:00 - Introduction
00:55 - EU-Palestine Relations
03:46 - What's Changed?
05:36 - Will Europe Recognise Palestine?
07:16 - Sponsored Content
I love TLDR videos but literally every title asks a question and then the answer within the video is “Not anytime soon”... I get that this is helpful to get more engagement but it's also frustrating...
It also brings in a lot of angry keyboard warriors. Who will just go against and disagree with anything anyone says just because. It's really annoying, but it is what it is.
@@JaegerDreadfulengagement bait
I've mentioned this as well. I've entirely skipped some videos because of that.
@@user-op8fg3ny3jExactly. RUclips's algorithm recognizes immediate engagement as a good thing.
@@JaegerDreadfulits a fair criticism, not out of line at all. What’s an “angry keyboard warrior” to you?
To any viewers frustrated with these titles, consider Betteridge's law of headlines: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
Because if they could actually say it in the affirmative, they wouldn't ask it as a question.
That’s a good point. Sarcastic yay journalism
And it wouldn't make for as good of clickbait, either.
Cyprus back in 1988 was not a communist state. A liberal was the president back then. Please add a correction in the comments.
In English the country is called Cyprus.
they said most not all
He said MOST countries were communist
@@thematthew761 and then circled all of them except sweden in a deliberately misleading way. what a prat. such agenda.
@@brianwelch1579 Sweden was in 2014, others were in late 80s.
What’s the phrase- every headline that ends with a question can be confidently answered “no”
Malta was not a communist country
Cyprus too
so is north korea. basically "no real communism" argument.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 No literally. I don't know about Malta but Cyprus' President was a Liberal. Then he was an independent. Now he's a member of the united democrats.
I don't recall Cyprus being one either?
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 No you don't understand. Malta and Cyprus never had a government that claimed to be ''communist'' or ''marching towards communism''.
I didn't know Cyprus and Malta were part of the Warsaw Pact
They were not. It's just shitty reporting
It is part of their charm. The video itself is informative.
Do you not remember the Italian naval blockade of Malta in 1967?
If you don't recognize one of the states, you are not for a two-state solution. Either you recognize both states, or you stand for a one-state solution. Let's not let countries get away with saying they are for a two-state solution and then taking every action to ensure a defacto one-state solution.
Palestine isnt a state. Its never been a state. It's a refugee camp inside Israel. Whether you recognise that or not has no material bearing on anything.
@@adtastic1533 It's a very poorly maintained refugee camp with apartheid like conditions.
@@adtastic1533 140 of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states have recognized the State of Palestine.
@adtastic1533 they are just Arab colonialist removed from part of their former colony. Let's hope the land of Israel is completely decolonised from Arab colonialists
@@davidcooks2379 one way to get it wrong lmao
Germany: nah‘ I’d block
Yeah, but they'd have to. When someone can veto a popular measure, you always have to force them to do so. They always take a popularity hit. If you don't force them to veto, they won and it didn't even cost them anything.
@@dr.victorvsapart from its not a popular measure from the native european population
Based Germany
Germany is, after all, pretty experienced with genocides
Based Germany
Every TLDR videos are the equivalent of a student trying to reach that maximum word count of an essay assignment by including incorrect and unnecessary information before answering the question
What is incorrect and unnecessary here according to you?
Malta wasn’t a communist state in 1988
they said most not all
Do you know the meaning of most?
But it was (and is) just as corrupt, so the statement isn't that far off
@@thomasdam9916 I think anyone who recognises the flag of malta probably already knows that they weren't communist though so would understand that "most of these countries highlighted were communist" doesn't refer to malta (unless they lack comprehension)
“most of these did so in 1988 when they were communist states”
*proceeds to surround all the country flags save for sweden*
suggesting sweden is not part of the “most” but malta is
Very happy for our president to do this, but it’s a shame that he went the opposite way with Western Sahara when the problem is literally Spains fault
It's Josep Borrell not "Hosep Borrell". Josep is a catalan name not spanish...
He is Spanish and his last name is Spanish not Castilian
Isn’t it a bit to late 🤔
Cyprus was never communist
"is the eu about to recognize palestine?"
"no." - video should have been 8 seconds.
Well that wouldn't be great journalism if they didn't give us the facts and reasoning to answer the question
@@huguesjouffrai9618 it isnt "great journalism" as is
Spain: *want to recognize Palestine*
Kosovo: Why don’t you recognize me? I am an European country!
Catalonia: *heyyy*
Madrid regime are hypocrites? Wow, I didn't know that before.
BTW. Catalunya lliure 💛❤💛
Euskadi: 🔥🔥🔥
And then Spain says to Kosovo if I do that I am going to lose Catalonia. I find it very rude by the Spanish not to accept Kosovo as a country.
Kosovo, the international arms market? Yeah... There's a reason for that.
Meanwhile in Catalonia:
...
Two completely different situations
Last time I checked Catalonia was an integral part of Spain not subject to apartheid, settler colonialism or genocide.
@@hectorcm2063 you forgot ham in one last meaningless buzzword - White Supremacy
@@hectorcm2063so you would like Israel to annex Palestine? Why are you being an extremist?
@@inoovator3756 He did not say that?
I mean… no they won’t?
I hope they do recognise Palestine. Those people suffer inhumane behaviours and live in the horrible conditions last 70 years.
TLDR seems to be getting worse and worse with the clickbait headlines and im noticing that each time i see a video of theirs suggested im less and less inclined to watch it, its a huge shame.
It's how youtube is nowadays
Maybe what’s getting worse is you’re feeble little brain?.
TLDR: No, it's not.
Interesting the fact that Spain doesn't recognise Kosova because of "Catalonia" problem, but not the case for Palestine.
Not sure how will that work, if it will spark more interest for a independent state of Catalonia.
Edit: All I am saying here is Spain and Catalonia are Pro Palestine state, but Catalonians are PRO Catalonia as well.
Kosovo was an autonomous part of Serbia before the breakup of Yugoslavia. Palestine never was part of Israel, nor does Israel recognize it as a part of itself, quite the opposite.
@@MM-un3ob Not questioning here Palestine I am questioning Spain on regards to Catalonia, as they said they can't recognise Kosova because it will be a problem in regards to Catalonia, but recognising Palestine is not a problem I don't see how some one from Catalonia would think this is different.
@@astrit it’s because the left fool government is shit
@@MM-un3ob Judea and Samaria are a historical part of the Land of Israel No matter what 80 year old lines say
@@astritit is MASSIVELY different… Palestine has never seen itself as Israeli and isn’t trying to “breakaway” from Israel. It’s a different situation entirely. Catalonia is actively seeking to breakaway from Spain.
1:12 Cyprus was never communist though
6:44 no need to thank me
IDF bots have been going crazy lately
this sound like a good idea!
The biggest problem is that neither Israel nor Palestine want a two state solution, and seem to be actively fighting against it ever happening. Both sides are governed by extremist religious ideologies, so it's a hopeless situation
Israel has made numberable offers for a Palestinian state, as it just wants a homeland and to be left alone. The Arabs rejected them all. Hamas constitution demands eradication of Jews "from the river to the sea". If Hamas lays down its arms, there will be peace tomorrow. And note Gaza was autonomous until it started a war.
At least one side is fighting for his right aganist settler occupation and his land like any ppl who were under occupation before
For his right to massacre Jews and Israelis? Do you think the war is against Palestinians or against Hamas? Because maybe you are not aware to the fact there are thousands of Palestinians in the IDF.
@@NadaTae ... just that most of the Palestinians haven't lived very long in the area either. They are mainly Arabs that came from other areas in the last 300 or so years iirc. By your logic, lots of countries would need to be destroyed because a lot of the peoples who live there now had a migration history in the last couple of centuries. Yet, you seem to only care if it's about Jews. Why?
@@user-gr9fq9gt9w
Hamas killed about 38 children on
October 7.
The Zionists have killed over
14,000 children as well as spending over half a year starving and terrorizing and making homeless
a million children the Zionists have kept locked up in a concentration camp all their lives.
We know who the biggest mass murders are.
And even if there are some Arabs who have abandoned all ethical principles and joined the oppressive IDF as you claim that doesn't change the fact that the IDF is a horrific, violent, oppressive force serving the goals of a racist, colonialist apartheid oppressive Israeli regime.
Apartheid South Africa had some Blsck police officers working for the white supremacist regime.
Nazi Germany had some locals working for it in various countries.
So what?
I genuinely do not understand the whole 'two state solution' alongside 'we only recognise ome of those states'.
How can these two contradictory positions be reconciled?
Channel is called "TLDR News EU" and on laptop is sticker of "TLDR news UK"
Different channels
“Justice will not come until those who are not injured are as outraged as those who are.”
-Solon 560 BC
There is a question mark in your title, so no.
Didnt watch. How right am I.
Hi slight error in your reporting. Malta was never part of the communist block and in 1988 it was an independent country which broke away from the British Empire in 1979
I will probably receive some critisism for this, but I believe that any recognition of a Palestinian state might be premature as of this current moment. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that in order of 'current' peaceful resolution in this conflict the Palestinian lack of a state must be addressed but a recognition of a state when there are severe lacks of basic conditions for a Palestinian state. For one; It needs a consolidated territory in which the 'state' can utilize the resources within that vicinity. Two, there needs a violence monopoly through which the organisation that is the state can use in order to control the consolidated territory. Both which are lacking at the moment - but there's more than that; Both sides first of all needs to recognize each other legtimacy to exist, the Palestinians needs to deal with the issue of radicalism, corruption and have political leaders that can understand that the reality for a prolonged existance with the Israel state will require certain sacrifices. And in turn Israel must do the same. However, at the current situation, any 'declared' Palestinian state are more or less would exist as a rumb state to Israel.
Exactly. Well said.
Valid comment. But the problem is, no one is giving or has given Palestine any chance to do it. its been in occupation for 75 yrs with blockades, settlements, and discrimination all which have completely destroyed it. there's 2 sides to how people see Hamas. the Israel perspective "oh look, an organisation set on destroy us, and a corrupt and evil state. there can be no peace until they're gone" and the other "oh look, all the occupation and suffering has led to a radical organisations all because Israel constantly tortured Palestine".
Palestine can absolutely recover if you give them a reason to actually consider. Rn, the whole world is against them so they don't exactly have a choice. I agree that you can't have a 2-state solution with current state of Palestine but how is it even possible when you're literally preventing them from attempting. I'm guessing and am sure that all Hamas were given were stupid and exaggerated peace deals which gives them no power, no rights, and no hope.
Heck literally, the Israel's peace deal was lit "surrender every single thing Palestine posses and we 'MAYBE' will consider just 'talking' about a 2-state solution. How exactly are you supposed to work with this?
Agree with you.
Can you define the WHY the Palestinians need a state, how would it look like, how you'd know they finally achieved a state and what will they be doing once they have it?
Will Jews be free to live in their homes which some of them never left the "West Bank" for thousands of years? or will they be depurted out for being Jew, like in N@zi Germany 1938? Will they have equal rights and be protected? can anyone gurantee their safety?
How do we know that the Palestinian statea won't make new tunnels to the heart of Israel and allow radicals to murder more Israelis? Is there an example to show Israelis that giving terriroty to Palestinians = More Safety for them?
The plo recognises Israel already. And if we're talking about "both sides", I don't remember Israel asking the opinion of Palestinians to form a state of their own. We could say it was "premature" then as well.
Rather than an outright united recognition of Palestine, I can see an important amount of EU states recognizing Palestine as a way to pressure the rest of the EU into recognizing it (which might or might not succeed).
The visit to Ireland was probably the least necessary, considering the government there is not very pro-Israel
(just a small correction) I would say that even though the Czech Republic and Slovakia were separate countries after 1993, the recognition should still be on the side of Czechoslovakia or maybe the year should be changed from 1988 to 1993 because it reflects the reality in which these the autonomous states began to recognize the state of Palestine
tdlt is becoming a click bait rag tag
According to the Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States, a "state" is an entity that has a permanent population; a defined territory; a government; and capacity to enter into relations with the other states. The European Union has been following the Montevideo Criteria to determine what a "state'" is since the break-up of Yugoslavia in 1991. The Montevideo Criteria have thus become customary international law in the European Union. The European countries that aren't EU Member States (the UK, Switzerland, etc.) share the European Union's legal opinion on the Montevideo Criteria. If we apply the Montevideo Criteria to "Palestine", it becomes crystal clear that it doesn't qualify for statehood. First and foremost, it doesn't have a defined territory (yet). The areas where the Palestinian Authority exercises limit government is a mere armistice line, but not an international border. Israel and the Palestinian Authority must reach an agreement on the international border between Israel and a future Palestinian State. There's no Palestinian government in full control of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip either. The Palestinian Authority rules bits and parts of the West Bank (Areas A and B), Israel governs Area C of the West Bank, and in Gaza the government has been taken over by a jihadi terror group called Hamas since 2008. So why is it that the Spanish government wants to throw out the Montevideo Criteria, break with the rule of law and give statehood to an entity that lacks the essential characteristics of a state?
Why are you so biased
Circular logic in full force here 😂
"Palestine can't be recognised as a state because it doesn't have recognised international borders...
Palestine doesn't have recognised international borders because we don't recognise Palestine as a state..."
Just be honest and say you don't think Palestinians deserve to have their own state!
Fuck the Montevideo Criteria, this is a genocidal land grab and people like you are enabling it!
@@DrLifeGamer*based
So because Israel illegally has settlements in Palestine, we must defer to Israel?
@@DrLifeGamer' I don't know. But you seem to know why I'm biased so do feel free to enlighten me...
The fact that this is even being discussed is mad. 5 years ago it would not of even been considered in the EU
can you put an audio fade in to your videos? it always scares me when you say this video is brought to you haha
1:09 Cyprus was never a communist state. Do your research before uploading stuff on youtube
they said most not all
Clueless comment. Maybe re-watch and try to pay attention to WHAT THE NARRATOR IS SAYING.
@@kenster8270 you are the clueless one. What is essentially being said here is that "Most of the EU countries that recognized the state of palestine did so in 1988 when they were communist states." (leaving out Sweden) and highlighting the other ones as communist states. This is 100 percent implying that all countries in 1988 that were selected with red were communist states. He made a mistake here. Stop shilling for misinformation.
1:06 The chart includes flags of Cyprus, Malta and Netherlands (or is it Luxembourg?) in the group of countries which you indicate were communist states in 1988. These are not and were never communist states.
Why is this not on Nebula yet?
I see they released a special video in time for their Saturday march 😂
SPAIN AND IRELAND are on the correct side of the history for not supporting genocide of Palestinians.
Malta was never a communist country 😂
How can you have a state without a functioning government. There was never a functioning government. And there never will be. But, of course, when politics is involved, logic goes out the window.
That would be against international law
I have not wachted the video yet, but let me state my STRONG opinion on this. So...
Americans be like
we support the two state solution
but we dont recognize palestine as a nation and any one on our side cant recognize palestine
American politicians be like
Support Ukraine - nay
Support Israel - yes
'2 state solution' meant greenlighting nationalism and exclusions of all sorts, cuz 'we may do whatever we want on OUR land, look, there is YOUR land (that we are currently conquering, lol)'
'one state' would be a country where you are free to be whatever and worship whatever - and US didn't like it
@@piotr_jurkiewicz Sure, but which country? Palestine was actually already the one state where both were free. It was Israel who accumulated arms and did military training at a time when it was illegal as a British protectorate, then proclaimed independence days before the protectorate officially ended.
@@mr.heisenberg1570israel is fighting a winning battle. Ukraine is not
By the way, my source for that is Jesse Alexander's video on the issue from three years ago on the The Great War channel. It's called "How Zionists Came to Palestine Under British Protection (Documentary)".
I just hope Spain would also recognize Kosovo at the same time
I have to say they should do that long time ago and this war never happened.
Did he call Cyprus communist?
I was looking for this comment
Malta too
okay he say most of these states so then it makes sense
You can recognize a country and not its government. To not recognize a UN recognized country just shows where the problem is.
On top of that if you look at the countries which recognize Palestine vs don’t, you can clearly see a familiar story. North America and Europe vs Rest of the World. Even in Europe traditionally oppressed countries like Balkans and Ireland also recognizes Palestine. It again further emphasizes the colonial status of Israel.
No, that only emphasises the difference between Western democracies and dictatorial and/or unstable regimes in the rest of the world.
The Western democracies' quasi unanimous rejection to recognise the existence of the Palestinian State abides with international law (which says that you can't recognise the existence of a state that doesn't exist in reality).
By contrast, the dictatorships of this world don't care about international law. On the one hand, they weaponise their UN membership to vote a ridiculously disproportionate number of resolutions against Israel. On the other hand, they veto any resolution that goes against their dictatorial antidemocratic ideology (through Russia's and China's permanent seat in the UN Security Council). They use their seat in the UN Human Rights Council to make a mockery of the very concept of human rights. Their social media trolls propagate outrageous allegations about a supposedly "colonial" west, while they are the ones who are guilty of actual colonialism and imperialism. Just a few examples:
1. China's occupation of Tibet (colonialism)
2. China's abhorrent treatment of the Uyghur minority (racial supremacy);
3. China denying the people of Taiwan and Hong Kong their right to self-determination (colonialism);
4. Russia's illegal occupation of large parts of Ukrainian territory (imperialism) and erasure of Ukraine as a nation (cultural genocide);
5. Syria's dictator Assad financing his rule with income from the narcotics trade to murder, torture, rape and terrorise his own people for over 10 (!) years;
6. This list goes on and on and on...
These dictatorships and their satellite states recognise the "existence" of an inexistent Palestinian State only because it serves their agenda, which is discrediting the free and democratic West. Israel is as much a "colonial state" as Irak, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan (which means it isn't a colonial state at all). All of these states emerged after the respective British and French Mandates expired.
Spain: We will recognize Palestine
Catalonia: So does that mean-
Spain: no
Yes they should
Germany in literally every situation: We support the two states solution.
TLDR: Germany remains silent on the issue of a palestinian state.
Comment box: Germany experienced with genocides.
Wow this channel is full of racists. I watched quite a few videos from this channel now, and start seeing a pattern here.
You saying Germany isn't Experienced with JENNY•SIDE?
@@HughJass-jv2lt Context matters. I see how this channel constantly makes false claims, doesn't tell the whole truth or looks for the fly in the ointment to explicitly put Germany in a bad light. Even on topics where Germany is behaving in an exemplary manner, such as the Ukraine conflict, there are still attempts to malign Germany. Germany is providing way more military aid than other european powers during its biggest economic crisis in decades. But whenever they do something good, this channel be like "oh yea, but remember the days before war when they only sent helmets?". In every video on this channel there is a point where Germany is used as a negative example. And some people in the commentary box takes this up to spread hatred against Germany. Obviously even with parallels to the Third Reich. This is shameless.
@@KupoxChan
Hmmm....
Are you German?
I say it's been long overdue.
Agreed. Muslim-Arab colonists have occupied Jewish lands for 1400 years. It's long past time for them to leave.
@malogibeaux4946 so recognising Palestine as a state means the ISraelis have to leave?
Stop regurgitating points that have been spoonfed by propagandists 😂
@@GetFochD nah dude. I was responding to a comment that said that arabs were the true invaders and the jews were already there 4000 years ago. I am for the recognition of a palestinian state.
@@GetFochD The ONLY block in a Palestinian state is the Palestinians. Israel wants to be left alone and Gaza was given automony in 2005, but decided to start a war in October.
@@A190xx big bs. How can Gaza be autonomous, when they cant get out and ISrael is the one that decides what gets in?
Look up word autonomous that aint it.
3:00 Really? A simple editing fix, please.
3:26 Sigh. Better days.
And how about the Kurds?
Just a question. What would that state realistically look like? I mean, what teritorry, who would govern it, and how would you guarantee that. I am not explicitly against a Palestinian state, but I think we should clear up those questions first.
It wouldn’t work at all. Israel is the defacto ruler of the area, but the PLO is more of an intermediary that tries to maintain some rest while fighting for some concessions. As long as Israeli settlements are allowed to exist, Palestine can never be a state in the western sense. The idea of a two-state has been poisoned from the get-go.
The problem of the reconginition is more nuanced than presented. "Palestine" has no defined borders, nor do they have sovrigenty. the "67 borders" are in fact not borders at all. and as of today the only one who has the strongest claim to the west bank and gaza, is Israel by the mandatory system and the fact that Israel was the only emraging state who inherited the claims of mandatory Palestine. Jordan and Egypt were considered to be illgealy occupying Parts of Mandatory Palestine.
There's another problem. The Oslo accords explicitly state than any recognition of Palestine by the observers of the treaty (at the time the countries of the EU), must be done only after the Palestinian Authority and Israel negotiate on their Borders - exactly because "Palestine" has no defined borders or sovrienty to speak of that can be recognized.
The Current Palestinian authority Land control stems from the Oslo accords where the land control are allocated accordingly, would the Observer states to recognize Palestine as a state before the PA negotiations with Israel, they would in fact be in breach of the Oslo accords, and as a consequence shake the very foundation and legitimacy the PA has as a representative of the Palestinian people. as their legitimacy as of now stems from the oslo accrods. meaning if annuled by Israel because of the violation by the European states. israel will be able to scrap the treaty and allocate the land as it sees fit.
thus making any recognition of Palestine to be null and void.
There's also another problem: Iran. An independent Palestine will immedietly become an Iranian proxy. Palestine will never become a peacefull country. It's allways claim all of Israel.
@1:15 The former english colonies of Cyprus and Malta were not communist, when they recognised Palestine.
Neither were they colonies of England
Tldr is declining more and more each video
Cool idea to start recognizing it right before it stops existing.
hi
I see no problems with the idea. I only find it ironic that Spain is the one doing this taking in consideration their Catalan problem
What is their Catalan problem?
Spain recognises Israel despite the Catalan separatism. Why should it not recognise Palestine?
I see how this move could be confusing comming from the outside but there are a lot of internal factors that made spain swing like this. Ironically, TLDR: it was long overdue for the bloc to the left of PSOE, especially because of the catalan issue.
My home country of Slovenia tried to recognize Palestine years ago... and the threats it received from our western allies and co. was appalling.
Recognize Palestine now!
What are the pros when they get recognized?
nothing
*nichts*
Israel is sick of the threat from gaza and the west bank so close to home, also there are the Israeli hardliners who want to possess all of old canaan. What I mean is, as an outsider I think that Israel will most likely have it's feet in the sand doing everyting in it's power to not go back to how things were. I feel like they will need to be ensured a better security for a treu 2 state solution to be accepted by both parties.
we dont h8 u
Can't find the pros. But there is at least one con: It will encourage them that their ways of violence and rejection of Israel's existence, are supported. So they continue to make bad decisions that lead to nothing but more death and sorrow
Well, before you can formally recognise a state, you first need to answer the question of "who is the sole legal representative government of that state's entire territory?"
If the answer is "🤷♂ I dunno", you don't really have a proper state you can recognise as you don't know who to establish diplomatic relations with.
Sweden recognised Palestine years ago, we were the first European country to do so.
not the new Govt.
Long live Europe
It's living under zionist boot
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Long live us Europe for standing with our Israeli friends 🇪🇺💙🇮🇱
@@RooiGevaar19 And we stand with our European friends 🇪🇺💙 🇮🇱
For democracy and prosperity.
@@RooiGevaar19Europoors when Russia does it: 😡😡😡
Europoors when Israel does the same thing but worse: 🤗🤗🤗
your question is the wrong one. It's about why would recognise it, but why they don't do so.
What? No visit to Berlin? Why? Just kidding we all know the answer.
Not sure what this would accomplish when Palestinians themselves refuse to recognise the existence of their own country. The Arab side has always refused to create a Palestinian state as long as Israel exists.
Malta was never a communist state.
As an European, I hope not.
If it's not heppen Europe will not left European
A two-state solution is not just "the EU's preferred outcome," it is the preferred outcome for anyone with reason and conscience. The "alternatives" are morally appalling *and* doomed to fail.
No. Even EU's current leaders aren't that crazy.
The problem I see with this is that there simply is no state of Palestine. What do they want to recognize? The offered state at the end of British colonial rule was unilaterally rejected. Gaza and the Westbank are under different administration which are at odds with eachother with blood being spilled between them.
I don't think anyone in Europe disagrees with the need for a Palestinian state as part of a two state solution, however under the current circumstances I simply see nothing close enough in existence to be able to be recognized as such.
I disagree that there is any need for a two state solution and certainly no need for a Palestinian state.
The problem, which will be exacerbated by a Palestinian State, is endemic Islamic terrorism. The only solution is to de-Islamify the area, much as the Allies de-Nazified Germany after the war, and moved Germans out of the new Poland.
Three state solution?
Looks like no solution.
Hamas & Fatah have tried to reconcile with each other but Israel refuses to let them.
@@razahassan8755would you let them?Hamas is a terrorist organization that wants to see the destruction of Israel
I'm sorry, but what Palestine state is there to recognise? Gaza and the West Bank are different, disconnected entities that don't get along. The PLO rules in the West Bank, Hamas in Gaza. Neither allow for fair elections. If the EU recognises PLO sovereignty over the West Bank, does this include the Jewish settlements, which amount for roughly 1/3 of the population there?
Let them handle their own affairs in the Middle East, we're dealing with enough existential threats in Europe as is.
Two State Solution won't end the Israel - Palestine War but the Status Quo Ante Bellum meaning "the situation as it existed before the war" is best option!
I don't understand. How can the world support a two state solution without recognizing Palestine as a state?
When Catalonia recognition?
shup
@@roystonmason9125 yeah, it is easier to split other country's territory than your own,. Spanish and Irish hypocrites
For extra fun we should also gauge opinion on ME on independent Kurdish state...
@@mikaminskas The Irish are against the sectarian partition that was forced on their country by colonial settlers, against apartheid systems and against famine and genocide. Where is the hypocrisy?
@@mikaminskas Why was Palestinian land taken instead of German, Russian or Slavic as those were the people responsible for holocaust and Pograms, not Palestinians?
From what ive seen there never was a country/state and there still isnt🤷♂️
Neat
Greece and Cuba were the only states not recognized Israel. When both countries were under total USA control at the time
I don't think this is an EU issue. The countries that currently don't recognize Palestine are:
- Israel (of course)
- the US (they need the permanent military ally complete with a navy base in the middle east)
- countries that depend on the US for military protection, which are a lot of small Pacific island nations and mostly the non-Soviet NATO countries.
Also, according to the mentioned document (UN Resolution 181) Israel is currently occupying the neutral city of Jerusalem, 61% of Palestine and a bit of Syria and Lebanon? They generously returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt after having that occupied for about 3 years. It's quite interesting that since the artificial creation of Israel, all they trying to do is expand, while the international community pretending to not see it. And Germany is afraid to not unconditionally support the Jews, because... we all know what happened last time.
Only resolutions that are passed under Chapter VII of the UN Charter are legally binding. Resolution 181 was passed under Chapter VI in 1947 (i.e. before the Arab-Israeli war of 1948-1949). It was a non-binding political declaration that recommended the partition of Mandatory Palestine after the expiry of the British Mandate for Palestine, which was due to happen on 15 May 1948. The UN's recommended partition of Mandatory Palestine was accepted by the Jewish delegation but rejected by the Arab delegations (because "from the river to the sea..."). Anyhow, Resolution 181 has become obsolete because the facts on the ground have changed too much over the past 75 years.
Israel offered to return the parts of Syria for peace between the two countries. That’s Israel’s entire policy, not expanding but just being safe. Palestine has invaded it over and over again, including last year. So Israel just doesn’t want to give them the chance to attack again. Having the Golan Heights helps to guard the border. Besides, most wars even back then involve taking land if it happens a lot. Like Germany constantly losing land
I have no idea what you mean about them occupying Lebanon territory though. It’s literally just invaded once or twice and that’s it. Lebanon hasn’t lost land. Also, Palestine wants to occupy neutral Jerusalem as well so I don’t know how much that can really be pointed at Israel. Both want it as their capital, that’s a bit of the issue here
@@Huminahumina465Palestine didn't invade Israel, the surrounding Arab states did. Israel continues to occupy the Lebanese Shebaa Farms and a few Lebanese villages like Ghajar.
@@razahassan8755 I mean recently Hamas invaded them with Gaza. But if we ignore that, they still used Palestine to invade and Palestine in particular fought a war instead of accept the UN deal. So that alone is a point saying Palestine did attack them
@@Huminahumina465 The Palestinians made up two-thirds of the population of Palestine and the UN gave the Zionists 56% of their land on which Israel declared independence unilaterally.
The answer should be no.
You are European???
@@nurulhudavijapurwala4936 why does it matter, one thing for sure, recognising something that doesn't nor ever existed will bring nothing, but more violence and conflicts.
Betteridge's Law of Headlines.
TLDR, but video is 8:41 minutes long🤔
Not a good idea.
wow bro, so insightful
Catalonia and Basque country about to go wild
I hope so. May Madrid hypocrites feel Catalonian and Basque anger then. Catalunya lliure. ❤
most catalans are pro-palestine, and i can't speak for basques
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ok
Most of post-soviet states recognise Palestine... due to USSR 😢
Hate this clickbait. You don't need to do this
NO, NO, NO, God NOOOOO!
I am proud to see that my favorite European country -- the Czech Republic -- is still a staunch supporter of Israel.
hell no
If you are European then it will become so big mistake. I give you an example of City of London look at that and gain inspiration from that