Why you aren’t talking about the plethora of problems Toyota os having with quality control and power train 🤔 you should be telling/informing people since you are a Toyota guy at heart 😒
ikr. they went absolutely bonkers. I don't buy it's just because of inflation or whatever, they are really expensive and sadly people will still buy them using credit.
$1000 deposit down on a 25 Platinum Runner. Likely 6 months + from getting it here in CANADA. Trading in my 21 Nightshade-Runner. Can't wait. This will be my DD, and won't be off roading in it. I have a 95 Jeep Wrangler for off the grid adventures! :)
You could buy a new gx550 overtrail for about the same price, or save some money and buy the 550 premium. I would rather drop 70k on a lexus than a toyota.
good luck getting one at MSRP for 70k....they are selling now in Calif at 20-30k mark up per and are sold as soon as they hit the lot at that price of 90-100k
@@fseb233 My local Lexus dealer in Texas is selling them at MSRP. I actually spoke with a salesman at that dealership and they never markup any of their vehicles. That may be an anomaly, but it’s out there.
@cactuscanine3531 honestly, if your dropping 70k on a car, maintenence costs are not really a concern. Also, its toyota. Their costs will be almost the same.
I love my V8 4thgen, Orginally I was thinking I would Team 4Runner but the LC 250 has really stolen my heart. Going to get an LC if I can't get my TRD Pro Taco 😅
Looking forward to your review of the 2026 4Runner SR5 when it becomes available in the fall🎉🎉 *also, did not realize that the 4runner has better ground clearance (9.2") vs the LC
The 4Runner seems like the more rugged, dedicated off-roader while the Land Cruiser seems much more refined and more daily driver friendly. I prefer the LC. The styling is MUCH more cohesive in my opinion, and I am not a major off-roader but want something relatively capable when the time comes.
It's highly unlikely the 4runner is not refined then either the LC250 or the GX550. Yes the 4runner has 9 avalible trims and likely will be much easier to modify especially sharing so much DNA with the Tacoma.
refined daily driver...you might as well get an Acura MDX elite or Type-S for literally the same price as an LC. LC has no purpose other than the 4WD, everything else its inferior to an MDX...They are gouging Toyota loyalists because anyone not loyal to the brand can see there are better alternatives elsewhere. I'll stick to Honda products, I don't need a top of the class 4WD, most people don't.
I’ve been debating both of these platforms. I’m on a waiting list for a First Edition LC, but if I can’t get one, I’m not really interested in either of the other two trims. I currently DD a 2017 SR5 and it’s been solid, but once I’m ready I’ll probably go 4Runner again over LC. The two trims I’d probably consider would be either the Platinum with some sort of TRD setup like the Tundra or the TRD Pro. Good comparison video Jon.
The 1958 is the LC to buy imo. It has a lot of nice features without the price tag of the luxury bells and whistles. Reminds me of the TRD Rock Warrior and the early TRD pros
I like the look of the front end of the 4runner but I gotta say I think I’m overall more into the Land Cruiser, as much as it hurts me, with a lift and bigger tires with offset. Like the square headlights more than the round though.
I'm personally going for the LC. If the GX was available with the hybrid, I would go for that. As for the LC vs 4R, I love the coolbox in the LC (a small feature, but great for me, as I travel extensively), the climate controls for the rear, and the full-time 4x4 across all trims. Both vehicles will be great, but the LC is the better fit for my needs.
Thank you for this video. I almost got cold feet on my LC to wait for the 2025 4Runner. Definitely back to my gut when we saw the LC for the first time. Agree the back cargo area is a little cheap looking and feeling with the storage. Land Cruiser feel for sure. Curious about the gas for the 4Runner as LC is premium.
Is the ride on the Land Cruiser better than the 4Runner? I know you haven't driven the 4Runner yet, but I'm assuming it will be the same as a tacoma. So how does it compare?
I would get the LC. I've seen First Editions come with Nitto ATs straight from the factory and those more aggressive tires significantly improve the relatively mundane appearance of the LC (compared to the 4Runner). The LC deserves to wear real ATs anyway. Besides, it is easier to justify spending $70K on a LC than on a 4Runner. The LC is more refined in every way and can likely keep up with the 4Runner offroad in most conditions.
Finally! A 4Runner that doesn’t’ look like crap. Loving it. I was never a Gen5 fan. I wish I knew if there was enough room to lie down in the back with the seats down.
very excited to hear that so many of you won't b e buying the 4Runner because of the price...gives people like me the chance to get one without as much of a wait. I'll wave when I drive by
That new 4Runner looks so good to me. But I definitely get why people are upset about the 4 cyl. The price is also crazy, but I’m not surprised, pretty much any cool higher trim level new car is outrageously expensive right now.
I own a 200 series landcruiser. Super luxurious , fast , and great off road. Purchased new in 2019 for 77 g The new landcruisers look like a sardine can w wheels. Cheap looking exterior.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I will say I want that new 4Runner. But the more I see the Land Cruiser, the more I think this is the real deal. Both are too expensive of course, but if price wasn't an issue, I think I would go with the LC.
That LC is hideous on the exterior. My choice between them is the 4R. However I’m annoyed with the new trucks from Toyota and won’t buy either. 2020/21 tundra all day long. Haha. Great vid bro!
Here in East Tennessee, there is one stand out for me because we get a lot of rain and some snow. The Land Cruiser is the only model out of the two with full time all wheel drive
As a previous owner of two 4 runners including the TRD pro and a current owner of a Land Cruiser purchased in 2012. The 4Runner prices are ridiculous. The Land Cruiser is not really a step up.
4Runner DOES have locked center diff, its a transfer case. Unlike the all wheel drive in the land cruiser that has a center differential, which would need to be locked to get 50/50 transfer, the RWD 4Runner already has the transfer case which is why it is RWD.
I think I’d have to go Landcruiser. Mostly because I already have a 5th gen 4Runner that’s dedicated to heavy use. I would want a more comfortable daily driver out of the new options. I also don’t like how the new 4Runner looks too much like the Tacoma inside and out.
Chicken Tax. Americas dirty past has major effect on its future. It’s also why we can’t get many other cool vehicles. Type your question into a search bar and you’ll see. America is always the start of it.
I’ve been driving an 80 series cruiser for 14 years. My wife was interested in a ‘25 so we checked one out and the interior is horrible, so bad that we opted not to test drive.
Did you see a LC model or the 1958 model? I have the '25 LC premium, and "horrible" is quite a ways away from what I'd call the interior. I have some gripes about it but 'horrible'?
I just can't get over that tacked on volume knob in the Land Cruiser. It looks so cheap and out of place it would literally keep me from buying one so I wouldn't have to see it every day. New 4runner looks fantastic I really like it.
I'd choose the 4-Runner. I need to probably trade ours in since it's a 1999. To be honest, I prefer the truck platform, and a narrower wheel base, but I know that's not an option anymore. And 70k?! Maybe we will keep ours another 20 years.
@@AllenKrughoff car and driver did one recently. I believe I’ve also seen comparisons with the chassis and that it’s very close if not the same as the 300 series. This LC250 is one of, if not the closest the prado has been to the big LC. While the new 4Runner is on the same platform, I’m not sure it has the same beefy chassis.
I like them both, but find it odd that the LC doesn’t have a more off road-oriented coilover system like Fox or Old Man Emu. I’m sure many will upgrade to their own liking, but hard to stomach investing more $ with dealers adding $10-15K mark-ups on these LC First Editions, and it (the upgrade) wouldn’t be covered with a factory warranty. That being said, the 4Runner seems like the lesser of two evils, while still maintaining its heritage and capability.
Both look great…have to judge based on quality and value. No price numbers for 4R yet…love to see what Platinum will entail. My gut tells me to get either a middle of the road 4R or splurge for the GX. Struggling to see where LC fits other than if you simply like its looks better. LOVE the videos TRDJON! Thx for helping us make these decisions.
I'd go with the 4runner without the hybrid system. More cargo room, cheaper and rear window goes down! I'm very curious where the 1958 vs SR5 or off road trims stack up with 1958 land cruiser price wise. I feel like all the trucks are so close in price, size, functionality...not making decisions easy!
I see a lot of people complaining about the prices of vehicles these days and hating on the automakers. But I never see them mention the horrible inflation we are experiencing. Do you realize in 2020 the fed added 40% to our money supply. Look up m2 money supply. Endless money printing weakens the purchasing power of the dollar. Do you think inflation only applies to eggs and milk? Do you see that the fed can print money for free but we all have to work for it? Prices go up for automakers as well, taxes, labor costs, material costs, etc. $70K is the new $50K it looks like.
I don’t understand why you don’t get the heritage emblem on the steering wheel as well as the grille. I have hated this emblem since they changed it in the early 90’s.
They could’ve saved themselves 15 years of development and just put an 8spd transmission in the 5th gen 4Runner. The new Land Cruiser looks like a nice 6th gen 4Runner except that it’s missing the roll down rear window.
Its like comparing the Jeep patriot to the Jeep Compass its the same rig with a different shell. Get the one you like the looks of or the one you can get the best deal on.
@@NorthweSteelheadJunkies I did not compare Jeep to Toyota so that is not a mistake. This video is about the 4runner and landcruiser not any of those lexus offerings. I am sure i will make a bunch of mistakes today but none were made here. Enjoy your weekend 👍🏼.
Why not give the LC250 the TRD Pro and Trailhunter treatment? Won’t it, 4Runner, Tundra, Tacoma, the facelifted LC300, and the next-gen Hilux each get the possible GR treatment just to show Ford’s Raptor family who’s boss?
I find it funny people mocking the 70k price tags... Clearly y'all haven't been seeing prices around the auto industry... A freaking rav4 prime is basically 50k so not surprised... But Ill say I'm waiting for more info on the 4runner platinum trim... I personally like the interior of the 4runner over the land cruiser. That shelf for the passenger... Aux switches... Bigger screen... Beats out the rear headliner HVAC of the land cruiser
Imagine being glad of paying for a 2024 car released in 2009 with a 5 speed 80s transmission and an extremely outdated interior hahaha Imagine being this du mb
I bought 2023 definitely not dumb this guy super GAF. So reliability wise I get it. That 5 speed transmission and 4.0 V6 are bullet proof this guy must no nothing about 4 Runners. Although we really don't know how these 2025 Hybrids will hold up, I think I'll buy one just for MPGs alone. All the updates and more power might be worth it until everything brakes after the warranty is up and I'm wishing I still had the 2023...
@@Rapido20 this Toyota mechanic here disagrees. the new ones have recall nightmares currently, HE ISNT DUMB😂 The only dumb ones are the ones that pay that much for junk rather than the proven drivetrain that goes 300k miles and more🤡 THANK YOU FOR KEEPING ME EMPLOYED THOUGH.😂 That old transmission will last longer on that older durable design vs the new one. FACTS ARE FACTS. He will be waving and driving by while the new one sits at the shop with me trying to figure out the new junk they come out with😂 Seriously the 90s was the peak of automotive mechanics, im sorry kids today can’t understand but there is reason why 90s toyotas STILL RUN TODAY!!!!😂 LIFE IS BETTER WITH NO WORRIES
@@JStryker7 if you think that new four-cylinder is going to be more capable, I got a bridge to sell you😂 you will get stuck with that pig on the trail, struggling to get its fat self out in the ditch
The 4runner is gorgeous. I would take that if given the choice. However, if I had to have that Land cruiser I would be really happy. Toyota has really knocked it out of the park with these. That engine is going to last forever and ever and ever. Edit: Also, the Land cruiser is also made in Japan?
Another small miss on the 4runner, but no lights in the hatch sucks for camping, doesnt look like any in the roof of the cargo area either, just the two down low. The 5th gen folding seats and flatter load floor will also be very much missed.
Toyota put out all this overlap of models and trims...yet so far it feels like none of them have the perfect combination of what I was looking for really.
If you go to Toyota's site and build a mid level Land Cruiser, with minimal options, it's mid $70k's. A fully optioned one will be over $80k, so really no difference in price compared to the 200. $70k for a TRD Pro 4 Runner, or the Trail Hunter is crazy. Especially when compared to the low/mid $50k's the 5th gen TRD Pro 4Runner cost...
$70k is I agree with the other comments. Absurd. I just want a stock bone 4runner. good looking body, part time 4wd, and a engine that is known to last forever. Jeep is looking like the better option for a brand new vehicle nowadays.
I bought a first edition a month ago. Delivery delayed twice so far. Dealer claims supply chain issues getting the fog lights and skid plate. Or I was scammed. Hmmmm
Does anybody expect to be taking a $90,000 CDN Land Cruiser off road? It’ll be great in the snow for sure, especially with all wheel drive and locking diffs.
Both are grossly overpriced. Both will sit on dealer lots hopefully… I think we are almost hitting critical mass and now even the dumb people refuse to pay these prices…despite fanboy not hitting toyota for trying to rip people off
70K...whooo! I have a '22 Taco SR LB-4X4 w/IL 4cyl. I bought it for 28K in Jan '22. It is good offroad and adequate enough for me as a DD. I couldn't justify 70K nohow.
The land cruiser is a more capable vehicle with full-time 4-wheel drive, more spacious, better interior, and I think will look just as good in ten years whereas the 4runner will look dated. Land Cruiser is also made in Japan and I think 4runner is made in Mexico. So there will be a small difference in build quality.
I dont like the styling of the new 4runner. The front end just seems too big for the size of the vehicle. It looks swollen next to the land cruiser's more chiseled squared off front. I hope we get a refresh that fixes the design like we did with the 5th gen.
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LC looks better looking, but 4Runner is all the way to go. I love 4Runner tire
Why you aren’t talking about the plethora of problems Toyota os having with quality control and power train 🤔 you should be telling/informing people since you are a Toyota guy at heart 😒
I was thinking the same thing! 😅
$70k is absurd for a 4Runner. You can keep it.
Can't wait to get one in 5 years as a used car 😂
@@user-pp1jl1pc4xToyota fanboys are crazy. Expect to pay 50k for a used one
@@user-pp1jl1pc4x in 5 years its still going to be $70k used, all you'll get is 100k+ miles engine wear.
Yeah 70k is overdoing it
@@user-pp1jl1pc4x u guys underestimate toyota resell value. that shit is dipping by $2 and a wendy biggie bag
Took delivery of my 1st edition Land Cruiser last night!! it's amazing!
You still love it ?
Fool!
How much did you pay total with delivery, dealership are giving me some crazy prices for the 1st edition
Shoot for $70,000 you might as well get the 2024 Lexus GX 550 Overtrail instead of the TRD Pro
Lexus is Toyota, you're only getting added makeup 💄
I would go with the Land cruiser, full time 4wd, classic looks, and made in Japan.
70,000 what? DOLLARS?!?!
Welp, I’m out. Ridiculous
Disappointed in the auto industry. Good content Jon. Keep up the reviews.
Will do man!!!!! Thank you for the continued support. I appreciate it.
ikr. they went absolutely bonkers. I don't buy it's just because of inflation or whatever, they are really expensive and sadly people will still buy them using credit.
That doesn't make sense to me. You can get a Sequoia for nearly the same price
The last Land Cruiser was $90,000🤷♂
@user-jd9bu1oe8g much better than the actual model
$1000 deposit down on a 25 Platinum Runner. Likely 6 months + from getting it here in CANADA. Trading in my 21 Nightshade-Runner. Can't wait. This will be my DD, and won't be off roading in it. I have a 95 Jeep Wrangler for off the grid adventures! :)
You could buy a new gx550 overtrail for about the same price, or save some money and buy the 550 premium. I would rather drop 70k on a lexus than a toyota.
actually the premium is the cheapest
good luck getting one at MSRP for 70k....they are selling now in Calif at 20-30k mark up per and are sold as soon as they hit the lot at that price of 90-100k
Lexus vs Toyota maintenance cost comparison?
@@fseb233 My local Lexus dealer in Texas is selling them at MSRP. I actually spoke with a salesman at that dealership and they never markup any of their vehicles. That may be an anomaly, but it’s out there.
@cactuscanine3531 honestly, if your dropping 70k on a car, maintenence costs are not really a concern. Also, its toyota. Their costs will be almost the same.
I love my V8 4thgen, Orginally I was thinking I would Team 4Runner but the LC 250 has really stolen my heart. Going to get an LC if I can't get my TRD Pro Taco 😅
I love all the new Toyota and Lexus videos so much because they've convinced me that the ones I own are superior in every way.
Enjoy!
I know what you mean.
Looking forward to your review of the 2026 4Runner SR5 when it becomes available in the fall🎉🎉
*also, did not realize that the 4runner has better ground clearance (9.2") vs the LC
Land Cruiser is for the country gentleman. 4Runner is for the boys who want to send it.
Most 4Runners are pavement princesses…
I don't think boys can afford a 70K truck. Or most men for that matter
@@thadlm2698most SUVs are these days lmao
@@MaddNomad1015 That is also correct.
I like the more classic and upright design of the LC, along with the standard hybrid and 2400w inverter.
Neither as I like GFX550 a lot more. But between the two, I like the look of the LC.
cool to bump into you at the Friday Overland Expo happy hour! keep up the good work on the channel!
Great time!
That was great seeing both SUVs in some off road action. I really got a sense of their off road capabilities.
70k? Ouch I didn’t realize they were that expensive.
GX500 Overtrail FTW.
The 4Runner seems like the more rugged, dedicated off-roader while the Land Cruiser seems much more refined and more daily driver friendly.
I prefer the LC. The styling is MUCH more cohesive in my opinion, and I am not a major off-roader but want something relatively capable when the time comes.
Agreed, and after decades of driving part-time 4wd, I would like full time 4wd for snow country
It's highly unlikely the 4runner is not refined then either the LC250 or the GX550. Yes the 4runner has 9 avalible trims and likely will be much easier to modify especially sharing so much DNA with the Tacoma.
My sentiments exactly. 👍🏼
refined daily driver...you might as well get an Acura MDX elite or Type-S for literally the same price as an LC. LC has no purpose other than the 4WD, everything else its inferior to an MDX...They are gouging Toyota loyalists because anyone not loyal to the brand can see there are better alternatives elsewhere. I'll stick to Honda products, I don't need a top of the class 4WD, most people don't.
@PWCDN you lost everyone comparing an MDX to a LC250. Completely irrelevant comments
I’ve been debating both of these platforms. I’m on a waiting list for a First Edition LC, but if I can’t get one, I’m not really interested in either of the other two trims. I currently DD a 2017 SR5 and it’s been solid, but once I’m ready I’ll probably go 4Runner again over LC. The two trims I’d probably consider would be either the Platinum with some sort of TRD setup like the Tundra or the TRD Pro. Good comparison video Jon.
The 1958 is the LC to buy imo. It has a lot of nice features without the price tag of the luxury bells and whistles. Reminds me of the TRD Rock Warrior and the early TRD pros
I like the look of the front end of the 4runner but I gotta say I think I’m overall more into the Land Cruiser, as much as it hurts me, with a lift and bigger tires with offset. Like the square headlights more than the round though.
I'm personally going for the LC. If the GX was available with the hybrid, I would go for that.
As for the LC vs 4R, I love the coolbox in the LC (a small feature, but great for me, as I travel extensively), the climate controls for the rear, and the full-time 4x4 across all trims.
Both vehicles will be great, but the LC is the better fit for my needs.
The GX will be soon! Maybe next year?
@@TRDJon Yeah, I've been reading up on that. That's longer than I'm willing to wait, due to upcoming plans. So, LC it is! :)
Heck ya man!
Thank you for this video. I almost got cold feet on my LC to wait for the 2025 4Runner. Definitely back to my gut when we saw the LC for the first time. Agree the back cargo area is a little cheap looking and feeling with the storage. Land Cruiser feel for sure. Curious about the gas for the 4Runner as LC is premium.
The 4R should be regular gas. I'm like 90% sure
Is the ride on the Land Cruiser better than the 4Runner? I know you haven't driven the 4Runner yet, but I'm assuming it will be the same as a tacoma. So how does it compare?
Neither. Get a 5th gen 4Runner and don't look back.
Just got mine this weekend. Quicksand let’s go !
Ha. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Also overpriced.
Agree. Fifth gen will be the next “ 80 series” desired vehicle…. Jmho.keeping my 22 TRD pro! No plans to change that
That outdated and overpriced as well
I will go with the 4Runnner SR5 or Off road without the hybrid option. Better price point for me personally.
I would get the LC. I've seen First Editions come with Nitto ATs straight from the factory and those more aggressive tires significantly improve the relatively mundane appearance of the LC (compared to the 4Runner). The LC deserves to wear real ATs anyway. Besides, it is easier to justify spending $70K on a LC than on a 4Runner. The LC is more refined in every way and can likely keep up with the 4Runner offroad in most conditions.
Finally! A 4Runner that doesn’t’ look like crap. Loving it. I was never a Gen5 fan. I wish I knew if there was enough room to lie down in the back with the seats down.
Heck ya dude!
very excited to hear that so many of you won't b e buying the 4Runner because of the price...gives people like me the chance to get one without as much of a wait. I'll wave when I drive by
So cool
Have you heard about the 2022-2024 Tundras? There's a reason you don't buy the first year (or even couple years) of a redesign.
That new 4Runner looks so good to me. But I definitely get why people are upset about the 4 cyl. The price is also crazy, but I’m not surprised, pretty much any cool higher trim level new car is outrageously expensive right now.
I own a 200 series landcruiser. Super luxurious , fast , and great off road. Purchased new in 2019 for 77 g
The new landcruisers look like a sardine can w wheels. Cheap looking exterior.
Im picking neither ,I'm very happy with my 5th Gen 4runner very happy
I haven't watched the video yet, but I will say I want that new 4Runner. But the more I see the Land Cruiser, the more I think this is the real deal. Both are too expensive of course, but if price wasn't an issue, I think I would go with the LC.
That LC is hideous on the exterior.
My choice between them is the 4R.
However I’m annoyed with the new trucks from Toyota and won’t buy either.
2020/21 tundra all day long. Haha. Great vid bro!
Fair enough! Thanks dude!
For me i wanna do more road trips and overlanding kinda style so the lc makes more sence to me
Here in East Tennessee, there is one stand out for me because we get a lot of rain and some snow. The Land Cruiser is the only model out of the two with full time all wheel drive
I’m 100% with you on the full-time AWD, my understanding is the 4Runner Limited will continue with this, as it has in the past.
As mentioned, the 4R will have full time 4wd for the platinum model and I believe Limited as well.
@@TRDJon yes but if it doesn’t have the lockers like the Land Cruiser, same as the current gen, it’s not really comparable.
You didn't mention center and rear lockers in your comment so thats why I mentioned that.
As a previous owner of two 4 runners including the TRD pro and a current owner of a Land Cruiser purchased in 2012. The 4Runner prices are ridiculous. The Land Cruiser is not really a step up.
4Runner DOES have locked center diff, its a transfer case. Unlike the all wheel drive in the land cruiser that has a center differential, which would need to be locked to get 50/50 transfer, the RWD 4Runner already has the transfer case which is why it is RWD.
Landcruiser for sure!
TRD has no center locker? Crazy. I’d actually just get the GX for about the same money.
I think I’d have to go Landcruiser. Mostly because I already have a 5th gen 4Runner that’s dedicated to heavy use. I would want a more comfortable daily driver out of the new options. I also don’t like how the new 4Runner looks too much like the Tacoma inside and out.
4Runner. I was thinking the mid level Land Cruiser, but go for one of the upper trim 4Runners, with the hybrid version.
WHY Won't Toyota bring over the HILUX option? You know the 3.0L Diesel?
Because exactly that… it’s a diesel.
Chicken Tax. Americas dirty past has major effect on its future. It’s also why we can’t get many other cool vehicles. Type your question into a search bar and you’ll see. America is always the start of it.
Won’t meet North American emission rules
Because it lasts too long without issues.
I’ve been driving an 80 series cruiser for 14 years. My wife was interested in a ‘25 so we checked one out and the interior is horrible, so bad that we opted not to test drive.
Did you see a LC model or the 1958 model? I have the '25 LC premium, and "horrible" is quite a ways away from what I'd call the interior. I have some gripes about it but 'horrible'?
I just can't get over that tacked on volume knob in the Land Cruiser. It looks so cheap and out of place it would literally keep me from buying one so I wouldn't have to see it every day.
New 4runner looks fantastic I really like it.
I'd choose the 4-Runner. I need to probably trade ours in since it's a 1999. To be honest, I prefer the truck platform, and a narrower wheel base, but I know that's not an option anymore. And 70k?! Maybe we will keep ours another 20 years.
My lord just when I was 100% certain I want a Land Cruiser Toyota come out with this beautiful 4Runner
I'm Rich and Patient and will wait for the Trail Hunter Land Cruiser Edition
Well, aren't you modest😂😂😂
Looking at the engineering focused videos, it seems likely the LC is also better underneath the surface
Any links? Would like to see those videos, have been looking
@@AllenKrughoff car and driver did one recently. I believe I’ve also seen comparisons with the chassis and that it’s very close if not the same as the 300 series. This LC250 is one of, if not the closest the prado has been to the big LC. While the new 4Runner is on the same platform, I’m not sure it has the same beefy chassis.
@@JStryker7 would love to see it if you can dig it up, would make me feel even better about the LC250
For those type of prices I'm doing a lexus gx 550
I like them both, but find it odd that the LC doesn’t have a more off road-oriented coilover system like Fox or Old Man Emu. I’m sure many will upgrade to their own liking, but hard to stomach investing more $ with dealers adding $10-15K mark-ups on these LC First Editions, and it (the upgrade) wouldn’t be covered with a factory warranty. That being said, the 4Runner seems like the lesser of two evils, while still maintaining its heritage and capability.
4runner definitely looks better and more refined. The rear bumper, hybrid battery bump, trays etc.
Lexus GX 550 is my choice, if you can drop that kind of cash
Wish we could get the 4Runner in Australia
Unfortunately the LC300 was not released in North America.. this is known as the Land Cruiser prado everywhere else in the world.
The LC300 is released in NA
Both look great…have to judge based on quality and value. No price numbers for 4R yet…love to see what Platinum will entail. My gut tells me to get either a middle of the road 4R or splurge for the GX. Struggling to see where LC fits other than if you simply like its looks better. LOVE the videos TRDJON! Thx for helping us make these decisions.
I wish we had the 4Runner here in Europe as well 😥
Tough decision. I was thinking of getting the new Land Cruiser, but love the style of the 6th Gen 4Runner.
I'd go with the 4runner without the hybrid system. More cargo room, cheaper and rear window goes down! I'm very curious where the 1958 vs SR5 or off road trims stack up with 1958 land cruiser price wise. I feel like all the trucks are so close in price, size, functionality...not making decisions easy!
4Runner non-hybrid or Lexus GX550 would be my choice. Don’t want the weight and over-complication of the hybrid.
I'd go with the GX too.
Is the cargo space in the back pretty comparable is or one larger than the other?
I think trail hunter is the best 4Runner option. And I think it’ll be better off road then the pro and land cruiser
The new 4runner is 👑 but my 2021 ain’t going anywhere any time soon
I see a lot of people complaining about the prices of vehicles these days and hating on the automakers. But I never see them mention the horrible inflation we are experiencing. Do you realize in 2020 the fed added 40% to our money supply. Look up m2 money supply. Endless money printing weakens the purchasing power of the dollar. Do you think inflation only applies to eggs and milk? Do you see that the fed can print money for free but we all have to work for it? Prices go up for automakers as well, taxes, labor costs, material costs, etc. $70K is the new $50K it looks like.
Preach! Most people have never experienced bad inflation. They probably voted for it.
Exactly
Jimmy Carter 2.0 inflation
Thank Biden and the Yak Harris.
Wait till January 20th, things will get much worse
If price is not an option...4Runner! But not ready to get rid of my 5th gen!
I don’t understand why you don’t get the heritage emblem on the steering wheel as well as the grille. I have hated this emblem since they changed it in the early 90’s.
For the same price, I prefer the LC because of the styling.
They could’ve saved themselves 15 years of development and just put an 8spd transmission in the 5th gen 4Runner.
The new Land Cruiser looks like a nice 6th gen 4Runner except that it’s missing the roll down rear window.
Its like comparing the Jeep patriot to the Jeep Compass its the same rig with a different shell. Get the one you like the looks of or the one you can get the best deal on.
Your first mistake is comparing Jeep to Toyota. LC250, 4runner, and GX550 all similar but they all with feel very diffent
@@NorthweSteelheadJunkies I did not compare Jeep to Toyota so that is not a mistake. This video is about the 4runner and landcruiser not any of those lexus offerings. I am sure i will make a bunch of mistakes today but none were made here. Enjoy your weekend 👍🏼.
Why not give the LC250 the TRD Pro and Trailhunter treatment? Won’t it, 4Runner, Tundra, Tacoma, the facelifted LC300, and the next-gen Hilux each get the possible GR treatment just to show Ford’s Raptor family who’s boss?
4hi in a part time FWD has a locked center differential.
I find it funny people mocking the 70k price tags... Clearly y'all haven't been seeing prices around the auto industry... A freaking rav4 prime is basically 50k so not surprised... But Ill say I'm waiting for more info on the 4runner platinum trim... I personally like the interior of the 4runner over the land cruiser. That shelf for the passenger... Aux switches... Bigger screen... Beats out the rear headliner HVAC of the land cruiser
Current wants 2025: 1st Sequoia, 2nd Tundra, 3rd Highlander, 4th 4Runner, 5th maybe Land Cruiser
Need: Lexus GS350
Have: 39-42 mpg '15 Honda Civic :-)
I'd go with Landcruiser or GX. GX for the V6 and full time 4WD
Full time 4WD is hard to beat.
Glad I bought a 2024 4Runner
you rich fk
Imagine being glad of paying for a 2024 car released in 2009 with a 5 speed 80s transmission and an extremely outdated interior hahaha
Imagine being this du mb
I bought 2023 definitely not dumb this guy super GAF. So reliability wise I get it. That 5 speed transmission and 4.0 V6 are bullet proof this guy must no nothing about 4 Runners. Although we really don't know how these 2025 Hybrids will hold up, I think I'll buy one just for MPGs alone. All the updates and more power might be worth it until everything brakes after the warranty is up and I'm wishing I still had the 2023...
@@Rapido20 Lol agreed. Atrocious gas mileage, old ass 5 speed 4.0. Basically the same 4Runner as 2010 but paying 2024 prices. 👎 But it's reliable!!!
@@Rapido20 this Toyota mechanic here disagrees. the new ones have recall nightmares currently, HE ISNT DUMB😂 The only dumb ones are the ones that pay that much for junk rather than the proven drivetrain that goes 300k miles and more🤡 THANK YOU FOR KEEPING ME EMPLOYED THOUGH.😂 That old transmission will last longer on that older durable design vs the new one. FACTS ARE FACTS. He will be waving and driving by while the new one sits at the shop with me trying to figure out the new junk they come out with😂 Seriously the 90s was the peak of automotive mechanics, im sorry kids today can’t understand but there is reason why 90s toyotas STILL RUN TODAY!!!!😂 LIFE IS BETTER WITH NO WORRIES
The current 4Runner the best. More features and no turbos!
Less capable
@@JStryker7 more with the off road package with kdss. New generation doesn’t have it.
@@nordlandak6853 the new LC 250 performed extremely well without it in the car and driver test
@@JStryker7 I’ve rather have it and 15k difference in price. But each his own.
@@JStryker7 if you think that new four-cylinder is going to be more capable, I got a bridge to sell you😂 you will get stuck with that pig on the trail, struggling to get its fat self out in the ditch
The 4runner is gorgeous. I would take that if given the choice. However, if I had to have that Land cruiser I would be really happy. Toyota has really knocked it out of the park with these. That engine is going to last forever and ever and ever.
Edit: Also, the Land cruiser is also made in Japan?
I rather take the land cruiser just because of the full time all wheel
Drive and knowing I’m never going to take it off road and just city driving
Another small miss on the 4runner, but no lights in the hatch sucks for camping, doesnt look like any in the roof of the cargo area either, just the two down low. The 5th gen folding seats and flatter load floor will also be very much missed.
Toyota put out all this overlap of models and trims...yet so far it feels like none of them have the perfect combination of what I was looking for really.
If you go to Toyota's site and build a mid level Land Cruiser, with minimal options, it's mid $70k's. A fully optioned one will be over $80k, so really no difference in price compared to the 200. $70k for a TRD Pro 4 Runner, or the Trail Hunter is crazy. Especially when compared to the low/mid $50k's the 5th gen TRD Pro 4Runner cost...
Looking 👀 at the 4 Runner.
Good video. Wife says 4Runner in Everest…lol I knew it
Get that paper Jon!!! 💯
$70k is I agree with the other comments. Absurd. I just want a stock bone 4runner. good looking body, part time 4wd, and a engine that is known to last forever. Jeep is looking like the better option for a brand new vehicle nowadays.
Trailhunter 4Runner...not in a hurry. Still have a 5th gen.
I’ll be keeping and modding my 5th gen trd off road and go for something sportier for $70,000 for commuting.
I bought a first edition a month ago. Delivery delayed twice so far. Dealer claims supply chain issues getting the fog lights and skid plate. Or I was scammed. Hmmmm
It was a fog light issue. same with mind
Does anybody expect to be taking a $90,000 CDN Land Cruiser off road? It’ll be great in the snow for sure, especially with all wheel drive and locking diffs.
People (including myself) do it with Jeeps all the time. So yes.
@@jackbauer9347 I get the “it’s a Jeep” thing with jeep ownership but I believe there may be a different ownership/age dynamic with a Land Cruiser.
Hey John what's the best formats for 5th gen 4Runner?
I’ve liked the lasfit ones I’ve had in mine.
Our Huskies are perfect
Landcruiser is sitting at or around $80k locally here in NC
Shouldnt be
might as well pay a lil more and get alot more performance with the Gx550 overtrail with E-KDSS and a V6 Turbo
I think trail hunter is the best 4Runner option
Both are made in Japan. Both are excellent
Both are grossly overpriced. Both will sit on dealer lots hopefully… I think we are almost hitting critical mass and now even the dumb people refuse to pay these prices…despite fanboy not hitting toyota for trying to rip people off
@@Wellh0wrya they aren’t overpriced, they are worth every penny. What other vehicles in this class have 320 hp and get 25 mpg.
@@thomas735 u are deranged!
@@thomas735 u are a couple cans short of a 6 pack
@@Wellh0wrya you got to get used to nothing being cheap anymore.
70K...whooo! I have a '22 Taco SR LB-4X4 w/IL 4cyl. I bought it for 28K in Jan '22. It is good offroad and adequate enough for me as a DD. I couldn't justify 70K nohow.
So basically top of the line 4runner competes with the base Landcruiser? Winner is the bare bone 4runner with same engine specs, towing, etc.
I assumed the Land Crusser would be bigger/wider and less luxiourious because it's touted as the
The 4Runner 2025, do you know what model trim has the 3rd row seat?
SR5 and limited
Ground clearance on 4Runner vs lc? This also help us decide.
They are similar with the 4R beating out the LC just by a little.
4R 6th gen has 9.2 inches of ground clearance compared to the LC w/ 8 inches. 5th gen 4R pro has 9.6 inches
The land cruiser is a more capable vehicle with full-time 4-wheel drive, more spacious, better interior, and I think will look just as good in ten years whereas the 4runner will look dated. Land Cruiser is also made in Japan and I think 4runner is made in Mexico. So there will be a small difference in build quality.
I dont like the styling of the new 4runner. The front end just seems too big for the size of the vehicle. It looks swollen next to the land cruiser's more chiseled squared off front. I hope we get a refresh that fixes the design like we did with the 5th gen.
The front end is awful on the new 4R.
agreed. almost looks like a Tacoma with a canopy 😂