Car Culture Is Toxic
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Is being a car enthusiast fun or miserable. lets find out, i talk about 5 of the biggest struggles that car enthusiast face. Have you ever faced these challenges in the car culture ?
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Here is to the car enthusiast who stay offline and out of shows. See ya around
Its ironic that some of the best car guys ive meet dont even attend meets ive either sold our bought parts from them or met at a gas station and said hello. There are so many great people that have stayed away from events and meets because of the toxic culture.
Amen!
@@TheOBDMafia 100%, usually the best interactions I have are when I stop to fill up and someone approaches to talk cars, or when I'm in the garage and the delivery driver sees my car and chats for a bit. lol
I'm one of them (Even though i daily drive a boring 940 and i have a 1998 Corolla that needs to be put together at some point)
Exactly. I don’t post my cars online or go to shows
i don't even call myself a car enthusiast anymore, i'm just someone who happens to work on/enjoy driving neat cars.
You got a point its kinda became a term used to describe a sub culture of toxic people with ego problems. I dont blame you. What do you drive currently ?
Same.
I have a car built out for specific purpose, I'm not going to be running that car for a different purpose, Other than for my enjoyment. Facebook marketplaces replete with examples of people who decided to take my car body and make it into something that it wasn't designed to do and that they can't control. The car person who knows what they're about and knows how to drive will always win in the end.
I feel this one, i always feel embarrassed to label myself a "car enthusiast"
@@TheOBDMafiagr Corolla owner right here
The amount of times I've caught flak for driving an RX8.. Oh it's only 240hp and it's gonna grenade apex seals yada yada like bro, just leave me be?
Thats annoying and those people honestly know nothing about cars let along rotaries. I think the 13B is one of the greatest engines to even grace this earth. A lost and hidden gem honestly.
I think people just have this diluted view of cars big hp and tq numbers are great but not everything.
Sorry people don’t understand. I do appreciate you tuning and sharing your time and experiences with me brother 🤙🏾
brother, even people on the other side of the fence with high horsepower cars get hate, we all suffer the same lol. Had some younger guys ask what I made, I told them, then they called me a liar. The passion for cars and hearing people's stories are what I attend meets for.
Ignore it all be happy stay positive and rock on 🤘🏾 I tune a G35 I hear the same thing it’s not about speed or car showed it’s about me being content and constructive in a positive way so yea ignore all stay safe and God bless.
Enjoy what you drive, an RX8 is a hell of alot more powerful than my 90hp astra and i still enjoyed building my daily :)
I had a buddy who bought one, I joked about it, but I have a real big soft spot for how amazing the RX8 looks. Honestly, Mazda's design language since the 90s has been amazing.
Car culture is a classic example of "How DARE you enjoy something different from the way I think it should be enjoyed!" Especially post-COVID for whatever reason, discourse in the car community has been increasingly ugly. Go on any post showcasing a car build and the comments will be 90% people who hate it and need you to know that they hate it and anyone who likes it by extension. Ask about any slightly unconventional mod for a car, and you'll get bombarded by angry messages from people saying you're ruining the car and therefore an idiot/monster. And that attitude inevitably spawns people saying "screw it, I'm gonna modify the car in a way that will make you mad on purpose just to make you mad," which is funny for 5 seconds until you realize fighting toxicity with toxicity only creates more toxicity...
I've been in the classic car world for several years and the attitude towards modding is so weird... if it's a hot rod/dragster/muscle car build, you can radically change the look of the car, cut fenders, do all kinds of stuff and people are generally cool with it. But put a widebody kit on it and suddenly you're a heretic and everyone hates you and screams "Y U RUIN CLASSIC!?" Or people get into stupid arguments about what kinds of classics you're allowed to like (four-door classic car owners know the pain).
And then there's the whole Muscle VS. Tuner wars, "I'd rather push an (x) than drive a (y)," and the worst of them all - the electric VS. gas debacle... I don't even like EVs but I feel sorry for all the EV guys who have to deal with the constant stream of hate and harassment from every keyboard warrior with a Mopar and opinions. I've seen EV owners get called slurs and other nasty names just for owning an EV, and even people saying they hope that person's EV bursts into flames with them in it, or leaves them stranded in the middle of nowhere, or bankrupts them with repair costs. NOBODY deserves that, NONE of that is okay, no matter how much you dislike someone's car.
And heaven help you if you're one of the poor souls who's trying to think rationally and take a reasonable stance of giving EVs a chance while still liking gas cars, as the hardcore gas people and hardcore EV people both now see you as the enemy. At least the EV people are just smug and annoying about their cars at worst, the way some internal combustion loyalists treat the EV crowd makes me ashamed to be an engine enthusiast sometimes, like... are we the bad guys? I don't want to be associated with them...
Competition, ego, attention seeking at all costs, trying to tear others down out of jealousy or to grab more attention for yourself... Why can't we all just see that at the end of the day we all like driving wheeled machines that go zoom and take us places? And that each of these machines has something different to offer, which is worth giving a chance? And that everyone's preference will be different, which is okay because there are many different wheeled zoomy machines and their diversity keeps the world vibrant? And most of all, that in these coming years more than ever, we can't keep dividing ourselves like this - we need unity in protecting all aspects of this hobby we collectively love. At the end of the day, these trivial differences are unimportant, they're just cars, and there are more important things in life than cars - but if you love cars, then you need to learn to love your fellow car enthusiasts so that the car community can stay strong instead of imploding under the weight of internal tension. A community divided against itself cannot stand.
Hey man First of all I want to say thank you for your time and feedback. This write up is amazing.
I do agree with you on the post Covid Hate and I think it stems from poor habits developed during covid when it pertains to the internet.
What do you drive currently? What type of classic cars are you into? It’s like people on the internet if you dont fit the typical image they will condemn you. For instance the iconic RWB Porsche 911 its undeniable and no one can say anything because its art and quite literally every build is just the same.
I see EVs in a much different light than most people we need them to validate our gas powered machines.It highlights virtually everything we know and love about cars and what we dont. EVs can be appreciated and respected but they dont have to be liked people hate change and I get that but change is good and some ways.
The ego struggle is something ive been trying to grasp but it has not been easy I think with the $500 billion dollar evaluation cars have become a business and one of the largest sectors to be honest.
It is what it is man I hope that people can all just appreciate that we all share a love for cars and it looks different from person to person and we respect it.
the ev part is what most people don't get, i get lots of hate for liking them but i also like ICE cars. I see some videos of evs and the comments are full of hate even though they like ICE cars too
@@rayyankhan8726 Yeah it used to be most of the EV hate was out of fear that they were going to replace ICE entirely (which is still a big part of it, with half the haters calling them "government mandated battery cars"), but it's disgusting how that hate has been turned towards the owners themselves for "supporting" it, or acting like EVs are a huge scam/conspiracy and mocking the owners for "falling for it." Like, dude. For some people, EVs make MORE sense than gas cars, and I'm not gonna fault anyone for making an objective decision in that regard. A lot of people buy the car that works for them, that's all there is to it. Heck, even I've been eyeing the new Aptera EVs with solar panels and spaceship-like aerodynamics since 41 miles of solar-charged range per day would be perfect for me, and I like the design. But even if I were to just buy a dirt cheap used Nissan Leaf of something, I'd get swamped with mocking comments asking me if I had to trade my balls for it or whatever. The EV hate is insane.
@@TheOBDMafia I own two classic cars, a 1990 Miata (it's wild that 90s cars are classics now) and a 1966 Ford Thunderbird hardtop coupe. The '66 used to be my semi-daily driver until it got rear-ended last year, and I bought the Miata with the payout after insurance declared my T-bird a total loss. I did keep the Thunderbird though, as it's really not that bad - still tracks straight and drives properly, just has messed up bodywork in the back, which an experienced shop should be able to straighten out. Dumb insurance only cares about what parts are replaceable... but I digress. The Miata was another long-time attainable dream car, and I'm happy to say it's everything I hoped it would be. It's hilariously the polar opposite of my T-bird, but I love the differences between the two cars. They're both unique and fun in their own ways. Now I just have to save up for eventual Thunderbird repairs so I can get a rebuilt title and drive it again.
@@Thinginator dammm I m Sorry to hear about the accident that unfortunate with the T-bird especially being such a classic car like truly vintage. Its funny you mention a Miata I’ve been having serious thoughts of purchasing one or and FRS /86. But I m still torn.
I really hope you get your baby fixed soon and back on the road.
Really appreciate your time bother thank you for sharing that with me.
W vid, people need to realize not everything has to be a straightline monster or a track beast. Every car even camrys serve their own roles.
Exactly we dont all drive on a drag strip with NOS and supercharged V8
literally.
i respect everything except ricers to be honest. i cant stand seeing shitboxes with cambered wheels and a universal fart box exhaust from pep boys. other than that we good
@@Jmulvezwe all have to start somewhere. I drove a slammed honda accord with just natural camber from slamming it. Learned a lot about cars and now I have an old mustang im working on and a gmc Jimmy im fixing up for my wife. Went through a lot of shitbox hondas in different styles and had the most fun. That was like 6 years ago though. It's so different now especially with the rise of social media.
All except the Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet.
Trust me, it is every "Enthusiast" "Community". People just suck.. I have a lot of hobbies, and you run into these things in every single one of them. Cars, Boats, Guns, Clothes, PHONES, Tech, you name it, it happens..
I agree with you on that. “People” are the problem. Then you have a group of “people” involved in a hobbies which explains everything .
Guns isn't a hobby. If you think so, you're part of the problem.
not true. Try skateboarding.
Groups are the new religion now a days
So basically you are saying people got worse.
2:20 It's interesting that you mentioned motorcycles because the psychologist, Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, is known for attributing happiness to what he calls the state of flow: "a state in which people are so involved in an activity that nothing else seems to matter; the experience is so enjoyable that people will continue to do it even at great cost, for the sheer sake of doing it.” And one of the examples he used to demonstrate it is when Japanese motorcycle gangs would start a ride, the talking stopped, and it was all about doing. It kinda sounds like the visceral bliss you describe.
This is perfect really appreciate you sharing this with us. Very fortunate to have bless us with this Gem I m going to read some of his work.🤙🏾
Thanks for your time brother!
Shit, I had to look up this name to make sure your cat didn't take a random stroll over keyboard.
@@Stratos1988 seems like we been getting great people in the comments very fortunate to see such positive and civil feedback. Thank for coming by and watching the vid I appreciate your time
@@TheOBDMafia It's just a random "fun" comment, but hey, you're welcome.
@@Stratos1988 i feel that bro I thought it was suspicious at first too😂😂
I do NOT accept that fact that my Miatas will never be faster than a Dodge Demon! As soon as I find a Demon on blocks the race is on!
Miatas should be faster than formula 1's, why else would we buy them at such a low price!!
😂😂😂
@@TheYeller7 Honestly I don't know why anyone even bothers making any other cars!
Hey man, na-nd Miata’s can and are fast nuggets. I build them as a job at kmiata/kpower and I’ve seen ton of them set time attack records and tons of them as balanced dailies. ❤
Edit: sadly I cannot fit in them being a chonker so I build egg shaped nuggets like my 93 eg civic with an sti drivetrain mated k series and my 95 Hyundai accent daily rally nugget with a 2l turbo swap
@ableYeetapotamus Ha! My new Miata is as slow as it gets, '90 with stock power, been sitting for a decade lol 😬 Plan, after getting it smogging again, is just to track it on stock power until the engine dies, then swap, altho I'm not sure what my options are, as I'm in that state what no likes cars.
I also have an MSM which is a tiny bit faster.
Moral of the story. Social media ruined everything.
100% I remember when instagram tik tok and twitter did not exist yet and FB did not have any groups yet. Ooooooo man the simpler times .
@@TheOBDMafia it’s the reason for the ego and clout chasin.
Yup!!!! 100%!!!
Don’t use it then
@@chrisl24 easier said than done bro YT counts too unfortunately 😂
I never really understood people who can't learn to appreciate variety. They talk bad about cars that may have worse performance but fail to realize why maybe the car has better features in a different area. Maybe the guy wants it as a daily driver so he doesn't slap on so many expensive parts. It's just not something toxic people take into consideration. In my eyes, there's no such thing as a bad car as long as you drive it only on the weekend and you find it fun.
Variety is what helps us grow and helps the car community grow who would want to live in a world where we all drove teslas or hellcats or mustangs? Car are so so expensive and sometimes the price and the opportunity to buy that car is the only choice… there are so many variables. Just drive and enjoy the drive and built that connection and share it in a positive way. It really boils down to respect and some people lack that ability.
First time viewer of your channel, some good points for sure.
I think it's hard because of the community itself sometimes... People trying to tell you what you should/have to do to YOUR car, when you want it to be the way you want and you're told "thats not what you should do" is the worst...
Appreciate you coming by and checking out the channel. Thanks for your time.
100% people don’t value variety honestly one of the biggest lessons learned by driving a VA wrx is that its not all that special yes it has a lot of aftermarket support but I’ve seen some wrx and a-lot of them with all the same parts.
Imagine going to a meet and everyone has the same intake Or exhaust. The whole point is to have your own taste and ideas thats what makes the car community special.
Being a WRX owner myself, my favorite thing is when you ask how you can make your car better, and some rando comments "get an STI"
Yeah, that’s pretty infuriating I mean yes they’re both Subarus, but they’re not even the same car. Different transmissions, and different engines entirely. My biggest issue with people is that everyone thinks they’re like creating something new. I mean gatekeeping the information is not really cool and it definitely doesn’t make you look smarter than you already are. I respect people more when they’re very helpful in the community and they share their experiences and their lessons learned.
That’s one of the reasons why I started this channel because I want to help people in the community so manny times I see in the forums, especially the Subaru forums people just not being very helpful and it doesn’t really take anything away from you to be helpful. So if there’s anything you have questions on or if there’s anything that you think I can provide insight on. Please reach out.
I appreciate you stopping by thanks brother!
I think some people do have good intentions - I dumped $13,000 into my 07 wrx…. Only for 3rd gear to grenade after 6.5 years.
While it WAS fun while it lasted - if I could do it over again I would have gone Sti…..
So yeah there are jerks out there but there are people that actually understand the longterm value of the bigger investment of the Sti up front….
If I remember correctly - my 07 was $23,500 new in 07… the sti was $33,000 at that time…. $10,000 more for a better transmission brakes and differential….
So I suppose it “depends”
I ended up selling it for $7500, and put $5000 down on a new 2014 370z
Ten years later: My Z is still going amazing…
@@07wrxtr1 this is a great example thank you. Wish I could fist bump you. I think Subarus are like Rotarys its an aquired taste and an expensive one. The STi is the better car and as much as people hate to believe it the 2022-23 wrx and Wrx TR are still not as good as the sti.
The main pain that people fail to grasp is the cost sti or not if you wanna push the platform you gotta have deep pockets
get an evo
@@evolad2463 😂
1:20 so many times I've seen people just hate saying "my car is 2x cheaper and I'd gap you waste of money lol" its like these people can't fathom that someone can buy a car or enjoy it for its sound and looks. To them it must be the fastest thing on the road, because speed is the only thing that guides their hand for car decisions, idk if its an insecurity thing or a need to feel superior to compensate for lacking areas in their life.
Its a real diluted way of looking at cars and I think its just because of the HP battle happening in the in our culture. The other aspect is people just feeling like they always have to 1up people. We can say we are forced to believe that they are insecure and compensating and Its reasonable because the hate is so senseless. How can someone else’s car affect you so much? You now what I mean ?
facts! I daily a '98 G6 Corolla and ofc I wish it had more power, and someday it might get a 1.8 7AFE, but honestly as long as it starts everyday I love putting around in a 25 year old compact while everyone is going bigger and electric
Hey I appreciate you stopping by brother.
The G6 is an iconic car ironically was toyotas way of helping to fight agains global warming. I’m not sure if we got those in the states here. Where are you tuning in from?
What really annoys me is when people say other people are modding their car only for clout. A person could be modding their car thinking of nothing but their own vision, but somehow it’s for clout? He/she can spend countless hours learning and building his own car, but it’s all attributed to clout chasing? It’s just not fair, especially when it’s based off nothing concrete. Is a person not allowed to love cars and not allowed to have a social media account?
End of day we all would like SOME validation or updoots for our car, it’s like this in every hobby, COMMUNITY.
This is probably one of the biggest issues Ive seen even within the circle of people I’ve know. People build these car because they are passionate about them and they are trying to enjoy it. I will say there are people who do it for clout but most dont. I think people are generally jealous especially if someone’s car gets more attention than their car.
People are competitive and envious by nature and cant help themselves. Id say if any one ever give you smoke for doing anything to YOUR CAR the car that YOU BOUGHT and PAY FOR. Send them the bill 😂.
In my opinion, we usually say it’s for clout when you see Instagram handles on the windows and entire instagrams exclusively about their car. This is also especially for people that do mods that ruin their cars functionality, like extreme camber or extreme “static” lowering, that is clearly a handicap to the car. I feel like a true enthusiast understands the car is a machine that should be driven, and if you’re destroying functionality to get a reaction from “haters” then it’s hard to see them as an actual car lover and not a clout chaser.
@@ROVA00 when it comes to running a static set up with a lot of camber I feel like there’s a fine line where its becomes ridiculous. But its hard not to judge I know but us function guys are different and just need to respect it. Most of the time it is for clout tbh but thats just a sub culture of a much bigger crowed.
@@TheOBDMafia yeah definitely. I mean, they have every right to do whatever to their car. But I still think that it’s more about clout than any passion for the cars themselves. To me it’s like breaking an athletes legs so that they can show off their super dope Gucci branded leg braces.
@@ROVA00 its for sure for clout because the car barely can drive and safely for that matter.
it's been toxic since day 1, any type of car stuff that developed even early in the 60s has always been toxic, but everyone knows that you do what you like and people judge respectfully, now comes the internet, where you don't see the car only at a meet, but you can hide behind a screen and say the most devious shit without any repercussion whatsoever. Like irl you'd be saying "hmm i don't like the wheels but it's cool" but on social media after seeing the 500th useless undriveable 1000hp 200k build you see a normal car some teenager still in school owns with maybe even cool mods, but you'll be so desensitized by it that you'll just comment "it's just an xxxxxx it's slow 🤡🤡". Like i can't make this shit up, no one lately in the online community seems to actually drive a car, nothing matters as much as any type of handling mods but you don't see anyone talking about anything like that, the only thing that matters is making 1000hp to go do pulls on the freeway entry (not on the freeway because they'll get too fast and the car for some reason doesn't handle as good). I can go on and on on this shit honestly, the community is changing and it's going to only get worse, but imo it will save itself when it'll go out of trend on tiktok and stuff like that, give it 5 to 10 years and we'll see who actually sticks lol
This is some real shit bro. Def pining this. I could not agree with you more on how severely the internet and people ruined the car scene as a whole. Lets just see how its holds up over the next couple years.
Thanks for watching brother🤙🏾.
This is one of the main reasons I don't really link with other people unless I can actually trust them. Too many tiktokker brain virus attention chasers with NPC energy. No idea who they are and why they are, they just exist and take space.
It's also difficult because I'm a creative and I see some really great builds I'd like to film or photograph, but have terrible owners or associates.
@@tommynobaka exactly bro straight up NPCs
The internet just is more fuel to the fire
@@LiljamezZz facts
You've gotta build the car for you and you only.
Cars that are (or were) an icon, a class leader, are always targeted because they are seen as a high bar or standard to try to beat. Any icon captured in a point of time will be eventually dethroned as the rest of the market evolves over time. We can try to "build" cars to keep up in order to address how they may fall short of new competition, but unless you and your car and evolve radically with market evolution, you will lose over time. Then the haters come big time saying their ride is better than yours... but remember if you build it for yourself than it doesn't matter as long as you're enjoying it. Stay true to what you want - live that out!
100% many of these 90s icon jdm legends dont come with more than 250-300 hp and since they have aged that number has lowered. The reality is evolution is fast and things that were cool are not as cool. Years ago 500hp was god mode. But now if your car doesnt make 800-1000hp its considered slow. I think thats a diluted way of viewing cars we are not building spaceships to the moon.
Just build what you love and drive what you love and if people don’t like it send them the Bill🤙🏾
There’s a huge shift in attitudes at different car meets from what I’ve found. I used to host car shows some years ago and it was mostly classics. From my experience the older gens in the car scene are very down to earth and everyone can appreciate each other’s cars easily. I’m in college now and am finally getting to drive more but I’m not excited about going to meets as much. I think the toxic people in my generation just haven’t been around a wide range of cars long enough to truly appreciate everything. Amidst a pretty terrible time for the US and a loneliness epidemic this unreasonable level of hate is the last thing the car community needs. Or maybe it’s a result of those things.
The OGs have the best attitude by far part of that if likely maturity and thats probably what made me make this vid. I had a son 2 years ago and the pandemic brought a lot of sides of people out that I was not wanting to deal with. I agree our generation is miss guided when it comes to cars and i do blame social media people say whatever and get aways with it and the perception of cars changed too. Modifying cars became mainstream back in 2008-2012. I want people to know this channel stand for the love a cars and the passion for engineering and having fun. We are at the brink of an evolution EVs. We all need to savor the last drops of gas before its gone 🥺.
I hear you, I drive a mk4 na 2jz supra & people are almost always disappointed when they find out its a non turbo 5 speed, it's still my dream car and I love it! I can't speak for everyone but as a licensed mechanic at an independent shop I do understand the value in others cars and any enthusiast cars that come in I truly do try to treat them like my own car, I guess it depends on the mechanic and shop you take it to.
I have a good friend of mine who also drives a MK4 thats NA as well and RHD. They can be disappointed all they want its not their car 😀. As a mechanic I know you are undervalued and under paid and I am sure this plays a roll in a lot of shops but I def would let someone like yourself work on my car. If you drive a MK4 and it’s likely clean AF you are the man. I think people just get jaded at shops especially because of client being dicks and terrible boss long days and shit pay. This would make anyone just stop caring
Dude! an NA Supra? Sounds nice!
The same thing happens to my dad, he still has his stock 96 Supra Turbo and people seem disappointed when they find out it only has 300 or so horsepower.
But hey, his has over 600k miles because it is stock.
Can always add the stuff later too plus the ge head allows for higher cfm if you do decide to turbo.
Well said. I stopped poisoning myself drugs alcohol ect many, And now i work on myself my life and my cars it keeps my mind busy not about speed or the money it’s spending my time on constructive positive things. Peace and Blessings.
Hey brother thats mega great to hear that you are making positive steps and cleansing the mind and body. Keep wrenching away at the car thats the best therapy! I appreciate you for tuning in brother mean alot thank you and peace and blessings to you and your family .
I enjoy driving cars and that's it. My favourite kind of car are those that are light and above all, fun to drive (which is why my dream car is just a Miata)
Spot on man thats what it’s all the pure joy of driving and love for these machines.
I do amateur time attack, there is very little bullshit, just beat your own time with better technique and/or setup.
Going into competition is definitely the way to go if you want a healthy community. You can't pretend to be a super chad pilot *only* because you drive an expansive bhp focused setup. You actually have to test and prove yourself, which usually brings a lot more humility.
Going regularly on track is expansive af in maintenance tho, not for everyone
Its a battle with your personal best which is a great way to push yourself as a driver and push the understanding of the car. I love that glad to see someone enjoying the purity of their machine and their connection to it.
Agreed
@@raidden-1583 Oh yeah, the only thing I care about is putting effort to get a better time. I can see that I'm beating much more expensive cars with only 200hp, aftermarket components were under 10k$, tires/wheels/coilovers/some geometry changes/clutch pack LSD. The local racetrack is only 60$ per 1/2 day, unlimited sessions. Result is minus 4 seconds on a 55 seconds track since I started 7 years ago. I paid up to 350$ at other tracks it is worth it once in a while.
Sounds super fun Id like to get a miata or brz soon and do some track days. Keep on being great brother. You are enjoying this the right way that’s true passion.
I advise reading the chapter "Stop looking for a completion in anything in life" in the way of the superior man. This might help with the obsession to make things perfect and to instead enjoy the process of owning and working on something you love.
I will look into reading thats appreciate the recommendation. This comment really spoke to me “enjoy the process” thats for sure something that we all need to keep in mind.
Thank you for this. i appreciate your time
Props to this video. I drive a 2009 Forester 5MT. There's a small SH community out there where I live and couldn't be more happier seeing another friendly face on the road. Who cares if other cars are faster? Many classics from the 80's, 90's are by no means fast by modern standards, yet it's these cars that will turn heads x10 more than a Tesla (No hate to Tesla ofc! Lol)People will see how much you care about your car just by how you take care of it and maintain it's longevity on the road! I've slowly grown immune towards what other people may think or say. When you say ego comes into play, I fully agree. Everything is expensive and we're too blessed and grateful to be given opportunities to drive these petrol vehicles. Who knows how long it may take until governments start limiting certain transportation methods? There are many factors as to why you choose to lean toward a certain manufacturer, ex., Subaru has always supported the ethos of community, adventure and fun performance off-road, and have never felt mean-spiritedness whenever in a car meet. There may be other manufacturers that may wield similar or better cars and idealogies fit for this job, but then you take into account costs, prices, availabilty, etc. Who gives af what other people say? They've never stepped a foot in your shoes, and have never experienced what you have. Good looks on your WRX!🔥🔥 Beautiful build on red paint btw.
1000% brother you said it perfectly. I agree with what you say about classic cars and being fast is not really something people should worry about unless they are chasing power and records. I dont have that kind of money so my little subaru is going to stay where it is. People dont truly dont know jack shit about people they just judge because they hate that others are having more fun than them. We are extremely fortunate to be here and have the capability to enjoy this technology and this era of automotive innovation. We know our time is limited both in life and in resources.
Appreciate the love brother I also have an 02 green SF5 i m restoring on the channel. Happy to see a fellow fozzy and subaru drive.
Genesis coupe owner here. The amount of times people called it “2 point slow” “a poor mans 370z” “”grenade on wheels”. What i find the most funny is when my engine is still running over 98,000kms while their german car is in the shop again. Real car meets have to be local since if you go to any richer area you will have show offs in their dads bought amg. Its the reason I dont go to car meets near Toronto anymore.
The genesis coupe is one of the most underrated cars they look great and you can make decent power on that platform. Honestly a really unique car I dont see many compared to 350zs. 350z are great cars but they have big time oil issues and they beat the hell out of them. The genesis is also pretty reliable too. I really would not make fun of the car. People are just ignorant. Maybe they feel guilt for buying a $50k car thats fast and have to leave it in shop all the time.
@@TheOBDMafia I always tell people to get the G4KF the bk2 2014 and up inline 4 turbo its more reliable than the G6DA which is the v6 and you can make more power since the pistons are forged (simple tune gets me 350whp with 20psi tune). Ignore hyundai owner manual and do oil change at 5,000kms or 3,125mi. Spark plugs every year and oil catch can.
I went to a random parking lot car meet in Toronto last year, it was weird, i saw an escalade with crazy speakers and a fat chick twerking beside it. i left as soon as i stepped on the lot
I'll give you some advice on car culture, do whatever you want and forget everything else, car culture has a bunch of shitheads.
Spot on with that beyond the car and yourself that all you need
Honestly, it’s the obsession of people with 0-60. Sure, your car is fast, but can you control that car during a corner? I don’t know, the track folks tend to be more helpful. 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah the guys at the track are the people to look up to they are very helpful willing to teach and they let the skill and car do the talking .
I have a VA too. absolute beasts from the factory, though unless you have the Brembos, braking performance leaves a lot to be desired.
shit man, I wish I had a carbon fiber trunk. Maybe for christmas lmfao....
As long as you put miles on whatever car you have, and you treat it with the respect it deserves, and you cherish it and the joy it may give you, you are a car enthusiast. I don't care much for "build" culture despite wanting to have a built monster one day. I don't care much for the parts-matching restoration people either. Nor do I like pretentious "re-imaginings" of classics that are just an excuse to make a tuned car with a very nice interior. A car that is driven and driven well is a car that I like.
As a side note, if you are a spirited driver, please just remember to drive safely :)
I agree with you regarding the brakes. The carbon trunk it cool but the clear coating on these are trash. You have to get them re- cleared yeah man the culture is one thats just about ego and money.
@@TheOBDMafia thanks for the advice!
I'd disagree about them being beasts, at least power wise. more and more I'm not liking the FA20, but I 100% agree about the brakes, fine for daily driving but anything more and they're woefully bad.
@@aspenGF8 if power is your goal you picked the wrong car lol
@@MidnightGreen4649Power isn't my goal, which is why I went with the wrx, i'm just disagreeing about them being beasts. it's on par with most regular traffic these days. they're good cars but lack any soul or character the old ones had.
It's unfortunately all the social-media addicted people that are like this... Always see people hating on older JDMs besides the GTR and Supra because it's "only" 240 hp. No one gives a damn about driving super fast in a straight line but all these kids want clout and just spout the same dumb stuff into an echo chamber. Just appreciate the car and what it can do for yourself.
Yeah all the 90s cars don’t exceed 300 because of the gentlemen’s agreement in Japan so from the cars that started the JDM car cluture they were “slow” in a straight like. I think the american muscle is skewing the terminology of fast.. well fast compared to what. Dont get me wrong I admire the guys laying it down on the drag strip but people need to understand those cars a purposely built to do straight line passes.
I agree people just need to appreciate cars and appreciate what it can do for you . For a lot of us cars is kind of a getaway from reality
The community in my eyes is populated with people who just care about trends, showing off to a bunch of people online they will never meet for clout and its kinda sad. I recently considered myself a "car guy" but i never really tell people unless its a close friend. I dont want to be associated with it at all and much rather prefer talking to individuals on a personal level about cars and i can go off and talk about them all day because its truly something i love. I feel today that love is mostly gone and people would rather gain pleasure from showing off whos got the bigger engine or who can hit a quarter mile better, people dont just sit down and go for a ride be it a spirited one or a relaxing one and just appreciate the car for what it is. When i sit in my GR86 i dont even need to say or word, sometimes dont even need music, i appreciate the machinery and time the engineers put into it, what others think about it doesnt matter to me since what matters is that it makes me happy.
So, I spent the morning helping my friend work on his engine swap. I realized that this might be the last time I help someone with their project as well. They tell me about what "so and so" built, and about "The stock bottom end record" that someone took a picture of.
-- "Built not bought" is stupid. You buy a car, then buy stuff from numerous vendors and bolt it all together. You didn't build a thing. That's called "Bought and assembled". It's not a bad thing, but don't try to be tough about it. The diesel side of things has been really bad about that, and it's negatively impacting our right to repair.
-- I didn't understand my love for cars until I got older and spent time in engineering industry. When we get our first car, it's so liberating. As we mature and develop our driving skills, we start to feel a lot of shortcomings on our cars that slow us down. That's where we start modding. I've been in engineering for 12 years now. It's my belief that most of us who actually like cars are people who deep down could have served in sciences but lived in a place that didn't enable it. When I was in high school, car culture was super frowned on because a lot of people in the area got killed in DWI crashes. In school, if you asked a car related question that applied the math lesson, they'd put you down and say "it's dangerous, you don't know that". I believe that many of us fall in this category.
You make as some really really profound and valid points. The bought and assemble thing is an important distinction not sure why it’s important to people but there is never a shortness of pride.
I agree with you and the engineering thing. I studied civil engineering in college with a focus in structural so theres always an analytical out look on everything especially cars… we spend a lot of time commuting in them so it makes sense.
@@TheOBDMafia On a more optimistic note, it's a wonderful time to build a cool car. Lots of great parts are available for you to do things that give you joy in a very safe fashion.
Yeah man we live are living at the height of technology and we need to just find more ways to enjoy it so many crazy build i have seen and its just a blessing to live and witness them.
I love cars, I have since before I could speak. Now I literally design toy cars. I've had an Abarth 500 for years that I absolutely love. Yes, it's just a tarted-up FIAT with 60% more horsepower and a straight pipe and a body kit. It's not "fast fast." I've never cared that it's impractical, weird, and slower than a lot of other sports cars. But other car people REALLY care about that. Speed and noise are not the only reasons to love cars. I'd drive a Model A coupe if I had the money for one. I like what you said about cars being like fashion styles - I love vintage and oddball cars, and despite the fact that I can name probably hundreds of vintage cars on sight, so many people in the car enthusiast community still look down on that as "less than" driving a Dodge Demon. I've learned that vintage car enthusiasts tend to be a lot more welcoming than sports car enthusiasts, so I tend to only really engage with them. And even that's rare. I think a lot of it is toxic masculinity and fragile egos, "my car has to be the fastest and loudest." I'm perfectly happy with my baby blue subcompact that's slowish and loud and weird, because it's also a joy to drive and makes me smile even just from walking past it.
Do you really design toy cars ?? You have to tell me more about that bro!
Love the Fiat BTW straight up go carts better than the Mini cooper imo 👀. Ive seen fast fast Fiats but light and Turbocharged thats hard to beat. To me vintage car at the real cars more machine less computer… call me a purist, but thats what it is.
I love that you enjoy owning and driving your car . The connection with your car is strong.
I do see that vintage enthusiast tend to be more welcoming and likely it’s because they are breed from my era of simplicity, and they just love cars. You know I envisioned what it would be like owning a sports card in the 80s and 90s. It probably was pretty cool because it was eccentric. Now liking cars is kind of mainstream.
I really appreciate you tuning in. Thank you so much for for sharing your story with me brother.
USA car culture especially sucks. The old guards of the "hot rod" era really didn't want to adapt. Growing up in it. They hated on anything they decided was too "foreign." Anything "too new" and even gatekept project cars or rat rods for not being good enough. And what we ended up with is a car culture that treats car brands and styles, LIKE sports teams. Instead of a culture of individuals that SHOULD be helping each other grow. Not to mention that a lot of the online discussion around cars is 60% people who aren't even old enough to have a license.
Wow man this is super insightful. I m too young unfortunately to have witness the peak of car culture some say it was the early 2000s or 2008-2012. I m 27 so we can so that match there. I like the comparison to sports teams… i mean thats super strange too. People who are willing to kill one another over people who could not car any less if they are rooting for them or not. The online conversation is a big point many people whom dont even drive and read somewhere mustangs and chargers are “fast” and not is going around pretending to be a car enthusiast.
I m hoping theres a shift one day but cars and car culture as we know it is dying so we shall see.
I appreciate you thank you for tuning in 🤙🏾.
I feel it, I drove a 2004 Volvo XC70 that I was working on to be a Cyberpunk Nomad car, I got custom plates, drilled a remote control spotlight to the hood and a solar panel, it looked cool to me, and I loved the Turbo, even though it was only like 200HP the car was fun to drive to me. I also loved the volvo community I was a part of.
I got a Subaru Outback 2017 Base to be my new daily and honestly, I got severe buyers' remorse. The cars' more expensive, but doesn't feel as worth it as my little shitbox. All my friends tell me the Subaru looks better but now I'm second guessing the 175HP NA engine, the CVT, and honestly the Subaru Outback is such a common car it doesn't feel as cool to me, honestly feels too lame to even be my little Cyberpunk car.
I'm one of the worst car enthusiasts around, I love turbo wagons that are a dying breed, I like having a mixture of capable overlanding and fun city driving and the practicality of good Cargo Space, but I don't really care for Subarus, everyone drives them (in my area at least) and the Subaru Outback Enthusiasts I've come across are obnoxious. I miss the way older cars were built but that's not sustainable, so I guess I'm just in a life time of disappointment because I need to be special, lol.
If you have any picture of that XC70 please send this over this sounds wicked 🤙🏾. I can understand how the outback would make you feel that way. The new cars now make you feel less connected in every way. I do agree subaru enthusiasts can be extremely annoying and obnoxious online they can br some of the most toxic people tbh. Turbo wagons are a dying breed for sure but I love wagons. Especially a sport wagon. Its okay to feel that remorse because you now know how special that car was thats how I feel about my 2002 subaru forester. It’s not turboed yet but I just love the practicality space and novelty the boxy looks makes it stand out.
People focus way to much on the cars other people drive When i see something different from mine i always try to learn more about the person and the car.
You cant be a bad enthusiast because its not about what cool or other people its about you and the relationship to the car. The memories that cannot be replicated or duplicated timeless.
Yes, I need to see some pics of that XC70 as well! Please let us know if there's a way to see them, on IG or otherwise. I'm a wagon freak and this is right up my ally. I've had my 2007 Audi S4 Avant since February of 2015 @46K miles, and when it became a second car, I wanted to do something fun with it. It wasn't worth much money, so keeping it and turning it into a safari/baja rig was the obvious choice for me. And let me tell you, I am VERY satisfied with my choice to do so. There's a lifted VW page I frequent and never think twice to post on, but I don't bother with the more common Audi pages and forums for glaringly obvious reasons outlined in this video. Big respect to the Mafia for this one! Subscribed, keep them coming my bro.
@@AnderTremy hey brother thanks for the kind words really appreciate you stopping by and sharing your projects with me. Would love to see the S4 avant on IG i have my IG in my bio. I was also obsessed with wagons idk why something about practicality and performance just blend well. Like the audi S7 avant is like the ultimate sleeper/ daily.
forums seemed to have died long ago before modding cars were mainstream but thats just our luck I guess.
Thank you for your time !
I understand this completely .... getting so caught up in all of the flash speed and sounds..... then i got tired and got a corolla and of the 20+ cars ive owned it is the best..stress free 5 spd always works reasonably stylish and comfortable 👍
Exactly brother when you hit the reset button and go back to just focusing on yourself and the car and the joy of driving you can be free.
I really like and resonate with this video. I'm an older (45y/o dude) that is final at a point in his life to enjoy this wonderful passion and hobby. As a "new-to-me" owner of an 04STi who has spend WAY too much on my car, I can frankly say that today's car culture (Subaru specifically) is diminishing in quality and culture. It IS toxic especially when its mostly a marketing fest that is amplified by companies that simply want to make the most money off of us, through influencers, social media, etc.
I love my car and I love learning, modding; everything there is to know about it. I just wish I could meet like-minded, non-judgmental people that also have a passion and are genuinely curious and interested in what you've done to your car and what other plans you have cooking for it.
Unfortunately, I am too late and they "Hey-Day" of car culture died in the 90s...I don't know what we have today but its not a healthy nor a safe space to enjoy.
Appreciate you tuning in and thank you for your time. Love the 04 STI quite the drivers car very raw and true to the Subaru DNA. The Subaru community that I used to adore has changed massively and I agree diminishing in quality met some great people but Ive been some of the worst you can say that about all communities… at least that is what I m included to believe. All these companies are exploitative especially in our community..tons of money up for grabs.
Meeting like minded people ive met are not deeply imbedded in the car community although they are some of the biggest car nuts it ironic but it makes me believe the “Culture”… is for the people whom are posing as enthusiast rather than truly being interested in the machines. Car culture truly did die in the 90s and early 2000s too bad I was too young to enjoy it.
I hope you stick around. I started this channels to connect with people especially like yourself.
My name is Dhimitri BTW and congrats on the 04 STI I m hoping it continues to bring you joy in the current age of EV cars… truly an Icon.
Do you little homie don't worry about haters.
Also as an og car guy making fun of each others brands is all in good fun usually.
so true! it should be about the joy of machines, engineering, and the art of driving. nobody should 'yuck your yum' ..... if they don't get it, ^shrug
Exactly 🤙🏾 a lot of these guys who like to bully people were unpopular punching bags in high-school and now since they got some money they wanna use that to make them feel superior
Its the bad culture, rude comments and people that turned me off to cars or being an "Enthusiast". When I see mustang guys saying the V6 guys aren't real mustangs and "Should have brought a V8".
Its inserting a level of classism I find distasteful. Cars were always expensive, but with inflation and wages today car are entirely way to get to A to B. Pushing people to get cars that will put them in debt is not a good look. Nor is going into debt for a car period. Even getting a clunker grocery getter will just keep taking away from your wallet. Simply put its a rich mans hobby any one saying other wise is delusional or up to their eyeballs in debt.
100% cars are expensive and we each have are circumstances sometimes the that v8 money is not reasonable people have kids families and bills that v6 might be more attainable if you still love the mustang you know ?
Especially in today’s economy modifying and buying cars is a luxury and a hard one right now.
Love the point you made about the rich mans hobby modifying car used to be for rich people with money and still is in my opinion. All these shops and part companies started 10 years ago made it mainstream and popular but its still a rich mans world.
I appreciate you thank you so much for watching and giving your feedback brother 🫡
I've loved cars since I was a child and dreamed of owning a WRX so last year, I finally bought one. The stars aligned and I took a chance- but I very quickly became a statistic. I brought the car home after a visceral first drive and parked it, going to bed that night feeling unstoppable and giddy. I couldn't sleep I was so amped. The next day I go to start it up, and smoke begins POURING from underneath the car. My heart broke. So many emotions ran through me. Guilt, regret, anger, hopelessness. I thought I seriously fucked up- and to make matters worse, just days before buying it I read a post about shitty Subaru owners and how important the vetting process was for buying a used WRX. I felt incredibly intimidated, especially considering the only maintenance I've ever done myself was fluid and oil changes, maybe a headlight here and there. It felt like the kid inside me died that day and a realization was born: shit was about to get real.
Fast forward to today, I've had the WRX for 9 months and have learned more than I ever thought I was capable of. Even the bad can turn out good.
Wow what a journey man I m glad you persevered and pushed your way to achieving your dream. Really happy to hear you are enjoying the car. Sometimes the best lessons can be learned through failure and hardship.
Love that story bro very inspiring. Much appreciated you tuning and sharing your time and your story with me 🙏🏾.
Thank you brother
@@TheOBDMafia Absolutely dude. I’m glad I stuck it out too. It’s an animal and a blast to own.
dont forget to wave to ur fellow vape addicts
So many times getting caught up looking at parts online, plans of the future... Then a car breaks down and reality slaps you every single time - the most important thing is for it to actually drive or it's a useless paperweight.
What did the issue turn out to be?
To me, a cool car is all about the driving experience. Speed is just one element. Cars can be fast but ultimately pretty boring (looking at you Tesla). I think as a car enthusiast, you need to do what you want and not car what others think. The car you drive is ultimately for YOU to enjoy. Boasting about power and speed is honestly pointless and dumb.
100% brother you are spot on. Its about the experience with the car. There is a reason why Miatas are so popular. Looking at straight line speed only and bragging about 0-60 really is dumb and is pointless because it only highlights one aspect of the car. A hellcat/demon in the mountains would suck to drive.
Car culture is about your car, not other people
Exactly bro
yeah but its nice to talk or meet ppl right? but a lot of those people on meetings are so self centered and only trying to show off how cool they are.
@@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel yeah man its really hit or miss out here.
@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel agreed not sure why people like to show off to a group of a bunch of dudes. It was the same with motorcycles girls dont think you as cool as guys do because most girls dont really like bikes.
I wish there were more cool people like you in the car world. I've been running my 2013 BRZ ever since new. I cycled through cars every couple years prior to my BRZ (Lotus, R32, Evo, WRX, etc). I feel you and agree with all your comments. I've dropped $20k+ into my car, mostly in the first few years to make it track capable yet street friendly, plus had to add the boost to the BRZ. ;)
Appreciate the kind words brother It means alot to hear you say that. Thank you. Thats very fortunate an unique to be able to develop a broad taste in vehicles. How are you liking the boosted BRZ ? What ecu are you running ?
Looking to get one next year tbh its the last of its kind and ai dont wanna be hitting myself saying I could have had one .
It was great hearing from you 🤙🏾
That last bit about shops is honestly the worst. I have some health issues that largely prevent me from working on my own car and its just a dice roll every time I need something done. Barley any shops near me will even consider aftermarket parts and if they do I'm paying 2-3x what the part cost for installation and the attention to detail isn't there. I recently blew up my clutch and it took weeks to find a shop that would even consider doing it and when I finally did I could've just bought a whole new used Miata for how much I was charged and it honestly feels worse than before. It so frustrating to have to deal with that and the on top deal with the people who think their opinions matter for what I eventually decide to change on my car. I still love my car and to drive so I guess ill figure it out but damn
Damm brother sorry to hear that you are having this difficult of a time. Shops just car about the bottom line I wish they cared more about the customer than the money. The added stress on top of all that with people running their mouths sucks too. Hey man I you are in Atlanta I would for sure help work on the car for you if you would allow me. I do very much appreciate you and will be keeping you in mind. Some people are so fortunate to be blessed and we cannot take that for granted. Thank you for sharing your story and its people like yourself that give humanity hope. I wish you the best brother 🙏🏾
@@TheOBDMafia Thanks for your kind words. I just wish there was more of a community that cared about the people more than money. Unfortunately I'm in the northeast nut thank you for the offer to help.
what's funny to me is when dudes go hunting for obscure videos of 'slow cars' and just try to shit on them and their owners as much as they possibly can... didn't get enough attention growing up, did ya? maybe i shouldn't be fighting fire with fire, but that's all I can think of when I see that kind of behavior...
What I really wanted to say but did not want to offend to many people is these same people that are being toxic were not liked in school and bullied and people didn’t want to be around them… probably for good reason. They grow up get a little money in their hands and they wanna beat their chest. It’s a hurt ego thing and I agree with you lack of attention from their parents growing up.
Thanks for your time 🤙🏾
Previous Saturn S-series and Geo Metro owner here. What I've found is that the most welcoming car communities seem to be those that focus on vintage economy cars. There's a lot less one-upmanship in such spaces, and you get a lot more folk who are not only willing to offer you helpful input, they'll even do like many car enthusiasts from yesteryear would by meeting up with you if they're local to help with some work and share a beer.
I'm also a previous sixth-gen Honda Accord owner. With the exception of one forum and certain regions of the U.S., it's largely not a welcoming community.
Wow that actually sounds perfect what type of cars do you usually see at those meets? The working on cars and drinking beer is like brotherhood in its purist form. I miss this with my friends. Yeah honda forums / Subaru’s/ American muscle seem to share the non welcoming culture. Super hard to break into any of these crowds. I think with the other cars they have much older owners ironically and they say in time comes wisdom and thus maturity
@@TheOBDMafia So, econobox-specific meets are still not yet common (though it’s slowly building), so it’s usually at either meets geared for showing off beaters / patina, or “anything goes.“ But of the various meets I’ve been to, it’s usually things like Plymouth Reliants, Ford Escorts, Toyota Tercels, Mazda Protégés, lots of things ranging from the late 70s representing the second gas crisis, up through the late 90s. The coolest thing I ever saw was an all-original 1995 Honda Civic VX, with the VTEC-E engine still alive, kicking, and putting out 50+ mpg. Lots of chill but passionate folk, almost all of them are well-studied on their respective cars history - but often more so, the world history around which it was created.
I was most proud of the 1999 Saturn SL 5spd I had. All-original, garage-kept, no options. As in, it had manual steering. Literally no options of any sort. And it was by far one of my most cherished cars ever - as were the conversations I got to have (and ‘99 Homecoming merch I got to show off!) on its behalf
Please, please concede that the engineering of some products causes them to be more frail than others. Many manufacturers allow the cost cutting to leak into longevity. It sucks, because a lot of cars would be so much more amazing if they were as bulletproof when unmodified, as others.
100% I think companies especially like Subaru rely too heavily on the aftermarket for instance …. The EJs oiling issues.
I just wish more car enthusiasts would install valved exhausts to use when starting up in the morning. It's like $100-200 to buy and saves you from embarrassment.
I agree with this i get wanting the car to sound like Armageddon is on the brink but theres a point where it’s too much. Especially in the AM.
Bro the WRX community is insane. My wife bought one as a fun daily but everyone rags on her cause it's mostly stock. They love subaru's but only if they are modified to the point of being unreliable
Thats a huge problem. Subarus are expensive to mod and sometimes especially if you daily the car is better off stock. Honestly the wife buying a WRX is a blessing its great to see more diversity in the community but these people want to drive more and more people aways from even setting foot in the circle. One of the reason my wife doesnt like meets and she loves cars.
As a kid, I always had liked personalized things to match who I am. Same thing with my car, I'm building it to match me.
But like many things I enjoy, I take it one day at a time. And car meets to me are just cool be around.
Wholeheartedly agree with you man, but thats just how most things are nowadays. Ride safe my guy.
100% I think a lot of us forget we are just now living our 10year old self dream. I mean games and cars we used to see that inspired us we either own or inspire us to build the cars we now have.
Don’t get me wrong I love meets I use to go all the time. But people are unhappy and they bring drama and they are also destructive and the cops show up because someone reved and did a burnout or just simply started terrorizing people at the intersection.
After my son was born those days came to an end for me.
What i enjoy now is meeting up with some fellow enthusiast is cruising up through the mountains and having a meal and get to know each other.
I appreciate you stopping by Ride safe as well brother 🤙🏾.
Well said brother. Rock on 🤘🏾 God bless
I don't know man. I've always loved cars and I'll fix mine if it needs fixing. I'm not into builds. Speak for yourself. Best mod for my car is the "no oil leak" mod.
Thats fair man I mean the great part is that we all are different and enjoy the various aspects of car and car culture. Some people are into just working on cars and doing maintenance only and thats okay I love that.
I agree, but I think it’s the mix of categories. For instance I clown on Subaru’s because they make such little power relative to money spent.
If they want power, I try to point them in a beneficial direction. If they don’t that’s fine, I just don’t respect slow cars because I get my joy out them (primarily) through performance.
So when I can’t share that kind of joy with them, it becomes really hard to relate.
Although B8 RS5’s are fuckin art pieces😍 imho
Yeah the mix categories and types of cars is what makes the community great. Yeah to make power on Subaru’s is a ton of money of money because one its a 4cly and an unconventional one to say the least. Put it this way you need a virtually a whole new system and engine with forge internals just to make respectable power.
I think its unrealistic and to expect super high hp out of a subaru….unless you have deep pockets.
The word slow…. Is relative because its hard to beat a Miata in a togue in a mountains… just like is hard to beat a Demon or hellcat in a straight line. Some people like hp and tq some people like lightwieght and handling it really just boils down to what you want.
The joy we both can share is for the road we both love machines that bring us joy.
Id encourage driving a bunch of different cars and see how the otherside lives.
I do however have an appreciation for people chasing power pushing the platforms further and further thats how R&D is done.
Thanks for turning brother appreciate you 🤙🏾
So, people enjoying light cars should not respect you either because to them, you're just a non skilled pilot who just need big pp power ?
What a healthy way to see things. You can not relate without disrespecting anyone, you know ?
@@raidden-1583 I think it’s a perspective thing. Just looking at power is a diluted way of looking at cars its not really always a factor on a track especially. Companies / engineers would not make certain cars if it did not serve a purpose for enthusiast.
@@TheOBDMafia I fully agree, it's his logic of "I don't like a certain thing in car, so I disrespect cars that have these" that I don't like with the person I replied to.
I enjoy driving cars personnaly. As long as it's a manual with a good frame I know I'll enjoy the car. I won't start disrespecting people who buy powerfull automatics with full assistances because they like power. They do them I do me.
@@raidden-1583 should’ve know it wouldn’t take long for someone to take it out of context. Who said anything about DISRESPECTING cars of people?
Also I appreciate many aspects about many different cars, everything doesn’t need to be fast, that’s just how I PRIMARILY get enjoyment from them.🙄
Being a Car Enthusiast is about enjoying cars and potentially your own car. Having a car of your own can be the best thing ever to a car Enthusiast. It doesn't matter if it's a 500 dollar car that's falling apart or a mk4 Supra. It's your car. You're proud of it. Being a car Enthusiast is about having fun with your car, with like minded people. Enjoying driving your 50 Hp or 500Hp car. It's not a race. Enjoy what you have, make the most out of it. As Ken Block said: "At the end of the day, try to inspire people to be creative, and live a fun life. And don't be an @$$hole"
Ken was a great man ( RIP 🙏🏾) i agree with you there is a strong sense of pride when you buy your first car or work on a car and get it to the point of running or just modifying it to make it better. You build a strong connection to it its yours and it becomes an extension your yourself. I think people just need to remind themselves that we all love the same machines they are just different because we as people are all different.
@@TheOBDMafia well said 😁
It can be rough, but I've been blessed that most I've interacted with love my cars and what I've done with them. I'll likely never have anything remotely powerful or fast because I don't have the money or technical knowledge for engine swaps, but my 88' Supra and 01' Celica GT-S are still a complete blast to drive and get lots of attention.
I think that unless you're in it for social media clout, most enthusiasts just love cars.
Those are 2 legendary cars right there. I think the crowd plays a big roll with older cars there less information and they are leas attainable to people in my generation so they attract the OGs the mature crowed that appreciates cars because they were born in an era where 300hp was wild and 500hp was unheard of on the street. The true enthusiasts are in the garage or at the track or drinking beers with the guys after a long week not online.
I appreciate you thank you for your time!
@@TheOBDMafia Very true man. Just keeping up with maintaining my fleet is a fulltime job in itself (and paying off cosmetic mods lol)
Just curious, is your WRX on it's OG engine? Not really a fan of them, but I hear they blow up engines really fast, or maybe that's just when you put Cobb stuff on lol.
EDIT: I noticed you got a small channel, but this vid blew up. You REALLY should do more stuff like this. You'll rack up subs and viewers fast. Took me a very long time to do the same, but you've got good content all around, like your style.
Still the original block. The FA is much more reliable than the EJ but it boils down to is maintenance, quality parts, and a great tuner. Of course you also need to understand the limits of the car and have good driving habits. But I haven’t had any major issue. Cobb is not the most ideal piggy back ecu management but it beats the 7k price tag for Motec.
I really appreciate the advice about the videos brother. Thank you again for your time 🫡
The one place I've found very respectful car enthusiasts is within the track day and HPDE events group. Any track day I've ever gone to is filled with people that run alllll sorts of cars and just getting there means that you're for real, you genuinely care and enjoy. Plus the fact that you pretty much have to be respectful to participate at a track day or you'll get kicked out takes it one step further.
Thats awesome brother. The track folks are the best because they truly understand cars. The big difference is the track days are a privilege. Public meets have a very very low bar so it attracts low iq people.
@@TheOBDMafia completely agree. It may also have something to do that it's a pay to play event. To show up at a trackday event costs anywhere between $300-$500 /day + brakes, tires, fuel, and all other items that wear out rapidly.
100% so you get people who are trying to male the most put of each event and have fun
I had a bozo at a shop take all 4 of my blue steel tire caps off and replaced them with plastic ones. Haven’t been to a shop in over a year been doing my own maintenance ever since.
Yeah thats bs thats the level of detail that shops are willing to neglect same shit happen to me and they even scratched the rim and mounted the tires on backward ( they were directional tires)
It's a waste of money. I'm glad I got this out of my system in my 20s. Just get a reliable car that works for your daily needs that's cheap to run.
Exactly cars are super expensive and as long as you have something that works for your needs and you can live with it thats all that matters.
Thank you for watching 🤙🏾.
I just have a tuned e210 with some basic mods getting 205hp. It’s fun for me and it’s my daily driver
That’s a great ride I’ve seen a few modded super clean !
The only time i would take my car to a shop is for exhaust because. can not weld
Yeah welding is such a valuable skill in the automotive industry. Its something to add to the tool belt for sure.
Yeah I’m new to the car scene ever since I graduated HS and wanted to get more into cars cause the best parts of the community IS EFFIN GREAT! Some of the best parts of cars is the people BEHIND the wheel, because for most car lovers they’re car isn’t just a tool but also a canvas of sorts. But it’s so hard to ask for certain pointers and ask for advice on something because most of the car guys online are the toxic ones and they seem to just attract more toxicity and then people like me leave because they don’t want to go through that
What do you drive ? The best thing and the worst thing about the community is the people. I agree it is hard to ask people for help in fear of being ridiculed.
I plan on making vid talking about the new car enthusiast and it will cover that struggle as well.
Thanks for tuning brother 🤙🏾.
@@TheOBDMafia sadly I have to take the public transportation cause I can’t afford a car atm, but that doesn’t stop from enjoying cars the best I can! Working towards one, but thankfully I do have some friends who are more experienced with cars to point me in the right directions
Thats unfortunately its weird to think that cars are not only a luxury but a necessity. I can tell you I was riding the bus for a while but it also doesnt help that things are crazy right now car prices the economy. IMO your best just saving and waiting
@@Mazaco_The_Snake after having needed to take public transport for a few months... it's a better choice if you live in the city. Best part is that if you play your cards right, you can "daily" your project since you can just take the metro wherever.
And also walking is super healthy, tho it's sketchy at night sometimes LOL
Yea dude all I do now is I have some fun with my mechanic and I stopped joining car clubs, meets, or online groups, or even any racing events at all. I just enjoy cars alone. Its so much more peaceful.
Right now my worst enemies are my relatives as they all think I'm some sort of criminal or just shat on my ride because they keep loaning new teslas. While I drive my "old shitboxes"
Another things is stupid dumb laws made by these people. I just wanna enjoy every damn car, man damn
WAY MORE PEACEFUL! What do you drive ? Honestly nothing beats a PAID OFF car it may be a shit box but the bank doesn’t own it. Yeah the epa especially is one of the biggest culprits they almost took away e85 🫠
@@TheOBDMafia I drive a 2017 daihatsu hatchback, and planning to restore a c class w202, and a 1994 nissian sentra
cus i just love dem 90s cars man
@@bwedges love that and yeah man 90s are Gems they dont make them like that no more
Its gotten worse over the years due to the younger crowed. Im only 36 but over the years ive noticed (Just like you said with the alliance) that people get sucked into a specific brand and dont branch out. Ive had a dozen MR2's made friends with Subaru's and other makes. Once a person branches out they seem to lose that ego. Im still not done with my mirage to evo conversion and its been 15 years lol.
I agree I mean I want to hide I m 27 and It pains me. Ive always looked up to car enthusiast motor sport.. car culture in general. When it became main stream to me it was amazing I had so many aspirations but owning a subaru put many things into perspective for me. I can see how people once they get their first car they can get stuck in that mindset but its like people and school the love and passion for learning is similar to cars.
I am sure the MR2 was a blast to drive I only dream of ever being able to drive one let a lone own one.
Good luck with the evo conversion its been 15years but thats the point the connection you build is spiritual. Sounds corny but our cars are extensions of ourselves and its hard to let that go
@@TheOBDMafia ive met a ton of permanent friends over the years that have helped with the conversion most of them dont even own a mitsubishi. Times have defiantly changed and it sucks your younger and did not get to experience the peak of auto culture around 2008-2012.
@@EVILEVOFOUR i feel you on that man and yeah wish I was able to get a few Miatas and RX7 during that time but i was in middle school and starting high school 😂
1:38 and this video also applies to u, yes there are lots of tesla fanboys/assholes but most of them are chill, even if they think theyre everything with a base model 3 they dont hate on u for everything. While people with a gas car on the other hand, most ive met are assholes, any interests, cars u like, games u like etc they cant keep their mouth shut about how much they hate something. kinda like what donut said about tesla owners that think there are no better cars than teslas its the same with some corvette people who think no one elses car is better than there corvette
Tesla owners are a different level of toxic like teslas are fast because of the instant torque but I think they are Souless but…. Thats my opinion.
i havent rlly seen any toxic ones but lots are annoying af@@TheOBDMafia
It took a while, but I finally found a shop that I trust. The manager is a former rally driver who raced the ARA national championships for 15 years, and collects/restores rare Subarus. All the mechanics are highly vetted trained, typically straight out of a Subaru dealership. They pay a lot better than the dealership and it's a better environment, so for mechanics it's a win. They're super transparent, take tons of pictures for documentation and will work with you on any issue. I've even been on test drives with the mechanic who works on my car while trying to chase down an Intermittent issue. It does mean the labor is pretty expensive, but they don't gouge you on parts (I've compared invoice prices with online and it typically matches up).
For any wondering shop is All Wheel Drive Auto Independent Subaru Expert in Bothell, WA.
That sounds like a dream shop where is it located ?whats the name ? Sounds like a place id feel comfortable sending my baby. Very please to hear that you found a great place. Thank you for sharing this really appreciate this. Open Honest The Subaru community in WA i heard its amazing what are your thoughts? I m in GA but i spent a lot of time in Tacoma and Seattle. Also what do you drive currently?
I appreciate you for tuning in and sharing this with us thank you for your time brother !
Mate every time something goes wrong with my car or I get a dent a piece of my soul goes with it. As I know it’s going to cost money and time and every mfer around me is like… HA TOLD YOU THAT WAS GONNA BE A MONEYPIT… if only they understood 🥺
@@Drebin not many people understand it tbt and its unfortunate after owning a car for so long putting time and money into it becomes part of you…. Part of your soul
My dad and I spent 7 years building a car together. Pretty much every weekend for those years and some days inbetween spent working on it. Even on the frustrating days, it was time I got to spend with my dad doing something fun and something we'll remember. Unfortunately my dad passed away before we were able to complete it. Now that its on the road, I drive it to feel close to him.
Sorry about losing your father bother May he rest easy. Sounds like a yall had the greatest and purest memories those seven years. Breaks my heart to hear I cannot imagine that pain. Having that car on the road running is a blessing a great memory of the tine y’all have and his love.
They say some cars have souls that definitely has the best part of him built in.
I appreciate you sharing this story and I m grateful to hear from you. That connection is invaluable. Take care 🫡.
Absolutely, he's in that car. Thank you for your words, this is absolutely what the car community should be about.
@@TheOBDMafia
@@nikonhckr 100% brother. Thats why I started this channel glitz and glam does not impress me its stories like yours that make me love this community. Memories and connections its more than just a car.
Stay blessed brother 🤙🏾.
big part of normie culture.. judging people's character based on what kind of car they have/like. its funny that utube recommended this video to me, cuz ive always considered myself the red headed step child of car enthusiasts. (automotive repair and maintenance)
i drive a subaru forester, and a chevy silverado
and i dont give a fuck what anyone else drives
u do u
Nah man automotive repair and Maintenance is the foundation of being a car enthusiast thats how it all starts the love for our cars. People just take it too far and make it a pissing contest. Same here bro drive whatever tf you like and do whatever idk why people get so bent about what other people want and like…strange. What year forester you got ? I drive an 2002 😂 its a dinosaur.
@@TheOBDMafia 2021. I like the modern AWD robots this thing is a champ off road (western Montana snow, mud, ice, mountains kind of off roading)
Till this date no one can match subaru’s symmetrical AWD its truly a beast for sure 🫡
Great video! Bought a used 2020 wrx recently (dream car and first car) and although I’ve been a car enthusiast my entire life, my knowledge is DEFINITELY lacking. I relate to the Auto Shop part because I don’t really trust a lot of them and don’t have a good relationship with any auto shops. I’m always scared someone is lying to me so I’ve been researching like there’s no tomorrow. Would anyone have any advice for someone like me who lacks knowledge to be able to service your car yourself? I can do small things like plugs, oil filter, etc. However I have that “uneasy feeling” because I have my new precious car for the first time ever and want to be able to make sure I’m keeping it reliable. People say I should purchase an air oil separator and it sounds like it’s a great buy for this car.
Sorry for the rant! Any advice helps :). I’ve got 60K miles and no dash lights, fresh oil change and idles and runs well.
That’s awesome congrats on the new car 🤙🏾. Shops suck and it is hard to find quality information especially about the FA.
I have a couple vids on my channel that can help guide things a bit. The key is to make sure to have a quality tuner if you choose to make more power.
Catch Cans>AOS
Watch this vid -
ruclips.net/video/I5AueWJIFN4/видео.htmlsi=FUtLEpOXcu4h4FAQ
Best advice I got drive the car and own it for a while before you decide to do any to the car.
This is a good vid too - ruclips.net/video/TbGSyjQ9Y24/видео.htmlsi=ifqLYYTSMv_bWIGi
The only time i would take my car to a shop is for exhaust because. can not weld
I bought a 2020 civic si as my first BRAND NEW car....everyone is like it's slow....yea it is...I didn't buy it for the speed. Sure it's quick. But my response to my car is faster is yea it probably is but I bet you your car isn't faster than my bike...that usually Shuts em up.
😂yeah when I had a bike thats was me as well. I had a 2015 honda civic lx and it was a daily I was in college but when people said its slow I said if I wanna go fast i get on my bike. People seem to always have something to say! Why does a car need to be fast for it to be fun ? I think thats the misconception but good drivers can drive slow cars fast and thats okay. At least you know your honda will run for ever slow or fast it dont matter.
90% of the car community is just ego boasting and clout chasing. I’ve been literally called a POS so many times JUST because I drive a Miata. I’ve spent so much time and money on my car to prepare it for the track and I’ve completely lost interest in cars and gave up my dream to take my little car to the track. It seems nearly impossible to find any humble people in the community. I’ve tried different friend groups at meets and what not and all anyone enjoys is to walk around the meet and talk about how dumb everyone else’s cars are. Seems like the car society thrives on negativity. I’ve recently gotten into RC aviation about 3 years ago and it’s exactly what the car community should be. There’s all kinds of different pilots who fly different planes, fighter jets, civilian planes, airliners, etc. you name it. Just like how everyone drives and loves different types of cars. Yet everyone gets along and respects each others tastes. It’s one of the most welcoming communities I’ve ever seen. It truly breaks my heart to lose a passion that I’ve put blood, sweat, and tears into. I don’t think the car community will ever change
😮just for driving a miata thats wild. Quite unfortunate. I was really considering doing a track miata build. I agree humbleness is non existent in this community. The car community does thrive on negativity and its mistaken for competition.
I m sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with the car community. I m glad you are happy now.
Thank you for watching brother
Everyone’s a car enthusiast because no one likes to walk.
The car community isn’t toxic .. it’s tribal …. And when you have muscle car meat heads … weeboo jdm fanboys .. euro trash fan boys and super car elitists who think money buys them the best cars ever … when in fact most of these guys wouldn’t know a throttle position sensor for a o2 sensor … you get the car community at large.
A bunch of chest pounding idiots who say my car is faster .. I have more money in my car than you do etc.
It’s not hard being a car enthusiast… it’s hard getting along with frauds and people who are in the community because it’s the hot trend.
If your car is mainstream.. it’s probably regular traffic .. just saying
😂 this made me laugh and its very true people just want the look and feel and be a car enthusiast without actually even being remotely interested in the car its all clout and self imaged obsessed people with credit lines modifying the banks car
Car culture def can be toxic. And reasons why we spend money on our cars is because it’s our hobby! People into fitness spend thousands on supplements, meal plans, gym memberships. Yes there’s cheaper hobbies but cars give u that rush, that feeling, that u really can’t explain but like u said we chase that feeling. but I also love working on cars and modifying them. could be a waste of money for other people, but for me it’s fun and also a learning experience and also functional on our cars.
Yeah man nothing like that rush when everything is working perfect and you are hitting those back roads!
In many ways our mods make the car better… as long as you dont drop the car on its frame for the most part they help with performance and daily driving enjoyment.
Real car guys know the haters aren’t real car guys.
You right fam 100% . Thank you for tuning in m8🫡
Though I don't enjoy the car culture as much as I did 10-20 years ago, there's still a lot of good people out there. I'm not sure what is to blame, but I've noticed more and more egos at car meets the more time goes on, and for no apparent reason. Hell, I catch shade in my MKIV Supra when I'm at cars&coffee with my wife and kids on a Saturday morning, like man who wakes up that early to go hate on people lol. Nowadays I just drive to and from work on occasion, I want to find a reason to drive my Supra more often but not being a native to the city I'm in I haven't been able to meet like-minded folk all that easily, and when I go for a cruise the attention I receive is usually unwanted. Very clean WRX you've built there man, and I can tell you have a good head on your shoulders so keep on keeping on!
Yeah thats insane who wants to come to an event on a day that they could do 10,000 other thangs but chose this and got hate for it 🤦🏾♂️. Like you said theres a lot of great people and thats what keeps me in-tune a at least some capacity.
Yeah man I feel your pain about the like minded people just moved to Atlanta over a year ago. Yeah The MKIV supra is such an Icon I can see how the attention would be jarring.
Appreciate you brother thank you.
Thats why i stoped going to car meets... because i have a mooded Kia Soul and for some people thats "rice", "lame", etc... most people here in Portugal , its all about pose with Mercedes, Bmw's, Audi's, loaded diesel Seat's, old Hondas, etc... and plenty of them think because they have hid's or leds, a fart exhaust or roll more coal them a steam engine they're cool... and when i arrive with painted rims, blue and green lights interior, some decals, its all "rice", etc... since its outside the "norm"...
So yeah being a car entusiast is hard... since theres no respect today for diferent projects and its not all about being fast, but having a car mooded to you're liking also.
Another thing that ruins cars meets, its the toxic and exhibitionist mentality thinking the meets are displays of power and turning the street into race tracks, either for showing drifts or drags...
The good old days where people would simply stop the cars, apreciate them and simply coexist and talk to each other about they're project and mods...
Also the post covid thing here in Europe is appaling... people are so toxic and raging... like why? why the non sense agressivity?
Hey brother first let me say oi muito obrigrado for watching all the way from Portugal🤙🏾. Thats super frustrating moded kia soul is dope its super unique and it remind me alot of the scion cube which they dont make anymore. I agree with you in a lot of way with the new people coming and the different cars we have available a-lot has changed. I used to look up to the car community with the highest respect…thats gone people
Simply have no respect. Covid has made things worse because it left people with tons of time to find new hobbies and left some with additional income to pick up new cars. Its people like you that made me start this channel. I want people who have the best interest of the community in mind. We have the same desires but people for get that and let ego rule over everything.
@@TheOBDMafia thanks for the kind words.
In Europe Kia Soul's are rare since they're an oddball square car thats not a comercial one, other them that we have almost no other like that.
But being europe its all about the germans car thing unfortunally, not even the jdm's "survive" since they cant compete due to the lack of diesel sports versions or even any kind of interesthing cars, cause petrol is way, way expensive... 2 euros per liter... Mine its a 1.6 diesel reprogramed with 170hp, not a lot, but in europe most modern diesel cars are about 90 to 120hp.
Car meets in europe this days are to pretentious... people even show up with luxury and sporty rental cars just to make pose...
And due to the environmental measures, its almost impossible to have an older classic car since parts are scarse to find.
Covid bought out the idea that its the "end of the world", so go YOLO and do all kinds of stuff without thinking of the consequences and unfortunally that mentality got stuck around.
Thats super interesting. Are there laws on how much tuning you can do ? I cannot imagine bringing a rental to a car meet pretending to own it.
Yeah classic car are where its at for true driving feeling it fortunate here in the USA we have the ability to own them with less regulations but the parts are extremely hard as you mentioned.
Is Europe protecting diesels? Over here in the USA diesels are almost deregulated in states they have no emission for them where I live.
Yeah that YOLO mindset is stupid and not a good excuse Sounds like they are racking up the debt hoping to die before paying it off. Its always better to own the car outright than to pose with the banks car.
@@TheOBDMafia depends country to country within the EU.
For example on Portugal almost everything is forbidden, but its mostly a generic grey law, like "any modifications of the vehicle outside factory standards is ilegal...
Many people have they're cars with led's, reprogramed, etc... but as long they dont bother no one, the autoritys dont care much.
But we do have specific laws, like HID (xenon) aftermarket is ilegal if not using proper headlights, auto leveling beams and headlight washers...
Tyres/Rims cant be off the car body profile, they use a ruler to check it...
You cant tint the front windows and the back ones only to a certain degree and have to be branded material with specific homologations that are mandatory to be on the car registry in the "other notes" section, where is usually tyre measures.
Also all vehicles have a mandatory check up yearly to certify that its road worthy...
They check everything... lights, brakes, suspension, gases... even the horn and seats... you can get an yellow tag, warning, just from having a teared seat...
Thats why you rarely see a beaten car on the road in europe.
Yeah, people will use rentals, specially luxury and sports car to appear on car meets, theres companys that loan Ferraris just for a couple of hours.
Theres still classic cars, but its very hard to maintain due to fuel costs, lacks of parts and in certain capitals of europe traffic of old cars, to a certain year down, are forbidden due to ambient regulations in city centers.
Europe is all about the diesels... cause more fuel economy, lower fuel price and more torque.
The topography is wild here, narrow roads, hill'y areas and lots of curves.
Here the average engines for a diesel are 1600 to 2000cc with an average of 120hp, while the gasoline engines are between the 1000 and 1400 cc with the same hp.
While a diesel would to 6 liter per 100km, the gasoline, even with small turbo engine, does 8...9 liters and have have an higher fuel price.
But they arent unregulated... they have 3 anti pollution systems, the EGR, a valve that takes exhaust gases back to the intake for further burning... a diesel particle filter on the exhaust that once filled burns (regenerates) the bad particles and Adblue, a mix of piss and some chemichals, that is sprayed to help trap more dirt on the filter.
Yeah, but unfortunally people do a LOT of that here... they even buy a Mercedes or a BMW entry level cars that use other brands engines just to be cheaper (Mercedes A class with Renault diesel engine, and Bmw 1 Series with Peugeot diesel engine)... but hey... its a "premium" car... them use the money to buy alternative brands with fully loaded specs cars for same or below that price they payed.
Heres an example of a car meet, on a place where i used to go.
Also its not a portuguese channel, it was a brazilian youtuber visiting the car meet scene.
ruclips.net/video/nRLL8Y-DUe8/видео.html&ab_channel=BrunoB%C3%A4r56
i thought i started to hate cars. in reality i just started to hate people
Thats heavy bro but i definitely could see and understand that bro.
Been working on cars since I was 12 now that I'm 52 I still tune and as you age you just move on and wasting time on people is just pointless you covered it now just keep on doing what you love and you'll be fine
Really appreciate that thank you for your advice. I think that transition is what I am experiencing. I m 27 but because I was born in the late 90s the car stuff i grew up seeing vanished.
it's an age thing but yeah, the internet has ruined a lot of car culture. facebook is an absolute mess of people just being awful and love to argue (i have a good friend who is unbearable online, i think he just has split personality disorder at this point) and i feel like in real life i just have the same meaningless small talk at every meet ive been to. my favorite is the guy who brings a stock car and just rambles off every mod he wants to do, totally one sided conversation. honestly i think you just get to a point where you dont really see anything new and interesting. thats why i love going to the track even if its just to walk around. you get to see really cool mad scientist engineering and purpose built cars.
I agree the internet has ruin car culture. Its made forums and anything pertaining to cars hostile. Like you cannot even share your opinion without getting made a villain. Yeah a lot of these cars are economy cars and with the epa regulation it makes it harder to go in many different paths a parking lot full of subarus is like looking in a mirror sometimes.
You are Spot on with the track events… thats what started this car stuff in the first place. People have been racing longer than going to car meet were even cool.
Do you race at all ? If so where and how do you make it affordable …groups ?
Thank for running in brother I appreciate you.
I don't even share my build with others much, just try to enjoy it. As far as car culture goes I just go to motorsports events. Then everyone is talking about someone else's cars!
Motorsport is what truly started this car modifying stuff. We need to go back to the roots and focus on the love for cars
Love the video, I can tell by the way you speak you have a lot of experience in regard to cars. In regards to the car community, I think the people you will meet in real life do NOT even come close to the online community. People online are impulse, quick-thought commenters, who sometimes hide behind anonymity, and for some it definitely feels good to hate. But from my experience the kinds of meets you go to in real life will sort of determine the types of characters to show up. For instance think of takeovers; dangerous, ignorant drivers are the norm. I have been to numerous car events (obviously there will always be exceptions) where people just keep it cool, love the builds and enjoy others work and effort and just talk about cars in general peacefully, with enjoyment. If you are kept openminded you can enjoy any and all cars regardless of who made it and what was done to it. I don't stick to 1 brand, because i love CARS, the engineering, and the design. I love all eras, all styles of builds. And even for things I dislike, I know there's a place for them. for instance, I'm not particularly fond of the fast and furious styled body kits, but I can appreciate the early 2000's completed look, the effort it takes to even find old body kit parts, for instance. (although I cant lie I kind of don't get full on back to the future flying car camber lol it just destroys the car.) Also, I just bought a slow ass 2001 vw mk4 12v vr6 gti glx, and its my first car but super fun, and sounds amazing. I don't care that its barely got like 200hp lol, its a pos but its my pos.
Hey brother thank you for tuning and thank you for your time. I appreciate your comment and kindness. You are one of the reasons why I started this channel. We are a family and the OBD port is the crucial part of how we can communicate.
and read what our car is telling us. “ hence the OBD mafia”.
Very blessed to have you write this and it means so much. You took the words right out of my mind.
You bought an iconic car dont let any one tell you otherwise. GTis are one of the most underrated cars on the planet they are super analog and great to work on. The fact that you have the VR6 which is one of the best sounding engines its not quite a POS. Take care of that thing! If you boost it one day let me know.
Thank for your time brother 🫡
@@TheOBDMafia likewise!
Hello,
Yes, I will agree with you 100% , that the car culture sucks. Even though i,m into doing all kinds over overhauls on the old vintage vehicles I drive, they are not intended for the Sunday afternoon parade of old classic cars, they are everday vehicles, one is a 1979 Chevy g-10 van, the other in my late father's 1984 Oldsmobile BOTH vehicles have been modified with stainless steel seamlessly welded in in places where it rotted/rusted out. Especially my brake fluid lines , fittings and tubing totally stainless steel. My 1979 van I use when I do freelance electrical work. I,ve been a licensed electrician since 1972. I,m also a rail mass transit worker. I keep my old vehicles for survival along with being intermodal with mass transit and my pedal bike. We here in America have become addicted to new car driving. Today's vehicles are no longer a money pit, they are instead a credit card debit pit. It Really stems from the car maker's practicing what I call "PREDATORY ENGINEERING " in order to keep the average person in economic slavery. It makes auto techs/mechanics arrogant and miserable people that eventually throw in the towel and leave the business. A toxic environment to work in , because of that "PREDATORY ENGINEERING "of car making that is foisted on the auto tech. If car makers had any moral compass, they would make cars out of stainless steel, and have it,s drive train components readilly accessible with stainless steel hardware for easy change outs. This "PREDATORY ENGINEERING " began in the early 1930s when General Motors formed a front company called NATIONAL City Lines. The intent was to monopolize transportation in America,& Canada to get people out of efficient electric rail transportation and convert the lines to stinking and jolting buses, that nobody wanted to ride. That would set up putting the traveling public in cars only in which it grew into addiction behaviors. Also you be surprised at the hazardous waste being constantly emitted by a car just in tire dust alone. When tires where out where does all that tire dust goes? Not only you have climate change that is taking a toll on our planet but also the hazardous waste the car expells. Why do you think when you look at some of the deformities in frogs and other wildlife coming of age.
It,s one thing to be a car enthusiasts, it's even worse to be totally dependent on a car. PLEASE " GOOGLE NATIONAL CITY LINES " to get the rest of the story. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT CAR MAKERS WILL FIGHT BACK AT THIS POSTING ALL THE MORE BECAUSE OF THEIR
Corporate greed like big oil , big pharma, and big banks, just look, at all the predatory new vehicle commercials in the main stream media. Trillions of dollars being spent to keep the transportation narrative for car use only.
Miss Paula Walach union member IBEW still working full time
Very very fascinating perspective. You brought up some very very big points thats no one is talking about. I do agree society is very very wasteful and whats even more wastful is the parts that we make cars out of none are easily recycled.
Additionally with transportation you seen this with Robert Moses back in NY and here in Atlanta with the Marta they do not wants “poor people to access transportation. The places that are affordable to live are dangerous neighborhoods around the city or way out where a car is needed because people refuse to let the train expand further north.
The amount of people that are paying above 5,6,7, or even 8 hundred dollars in car financing payments is insane . They are trying to suck the life out of the average consumer by brainwashing people to spend spend spend.
Crazy world
Thanks for watching I appreciate your insight and feedback
Hey, man. First time on your channel. This video encompasses at least most of how I feel about cars, as (let's say) hobby. Definitely can be love/hate, at times. There are a few things contributing to the toxicity that is increasingly bothering be: gate keeping, elitism, purism. One thing that I personally find increasingly saddening is the shift away from "hot rodding." ...and I'm not talking about just classic muscle, here. I mean, any car that you personally modified to make it better, either objectively or subjectively. Seems like so many people just write big checks, these days. Then they go around bragging to everyone about this and that. Dropping $100k on a brand new sports car doesn't impress me. If you DIYed some coilovers, or brake kit, or even some esthetic mods, whatever the case, that's more impressive to me. Shoehorning an LS into an e30 BMW in your two car garage over 2 years... that impresses me. Spending $5k on a "fixer upper" and turning it into your own little expression of personality, that impresses me.
At any rate, I like this video. I'm going to check out more of your stuff.
Really appreciate your feedback. I agree, gatekeeping, elitism, and purism are killing the communities enthusiasm for sure. I think a lot the big car channels that build these cars give a false sense of car builds they just go with whats popular . I see that when one buys a car the other 3-4 buy that same car.
affirm has help bridge the gap between people now people just drop money they dont have on cars they dont own yet for clout.
I agree with you the restoration builds are the builds that are relatable and most impressive.
I appreciate you tuning in and sharing your thoughts thank you brother. 🫡
I drive an MX5-ND RF 2.0l manual and its 0-100 is at 6,8s (my tests light upwards road is 7s) thats not spectacular in mordern days where 4-5s isnt rare at all. but compare to a dodge of my frend with 400PS how can do 5-6s with luch controll automatik when i remeber right (how dont souns as good as my miata wit legal sport exaust) and it feels boring compare to my one. the reason is when you are sitting in a smal car the speed feels so much faster. as an exemple when you drive gokart at 75km/h you shit in your pens because its so fast big cars even boring when driveing 130km/h so where is the point? mustorbation in front of the Datasheet? i can drive on the German Autobahn but its stressful when you drive over 200km/h and its dangerous too.
Thats interesting are you in Europe? Miata are amazing cars now a straight line beast but great balance and very run i mean you can drive around in a parking lot and its fun in a Miata. Would love to own one. Thanks for watching brother🤙🏾
I have talked alot of shit on peoples car on the internet. My daily is fast in a straight line, 2019 RS3 hybrid turbo, e85, 1000cc port injectors, blah blah blah no on really cares. But I only - ONLY will say anything when someone else is being an asshole. If you're just chilling and loving your car, that's awesome I love that for you. But if someone is out here talking shit on someone else's car - I will be the first to hop in to knock them off their high horse. I feel like it's people new-er in the car community who don't realize that there are always bigger fish in the sea from every manufacture. I realize that there are cars out there that will gap tf out of me and that's totally cool but it makes no sense to talk down on anyone else's build or manufacture unprovoked just because you have a faster car. I have and still do in some cases own M cars, Audi RS, AMG, American Muscle, 90s JDM, they all have their pros and cons and things that make them special. That's just something you learn from having experience and maturity in the car community
That cars sounds like its Fast Af I mean I know the RS3 are know for hurting feeling respect brother 🤙🏾. Yeah I agree when a person is being a POS and an Ass by all means put them in their place.
Theres is always a bigger fish that can gap your car so humbleness must be practices. You are correct about thats.
Maturity is a big big thing and respect are hugely lacking not just in the car world but the while planet.
I appreciate you for tuning in and shoring this piece with me. Very grateful thank you.
As someone who owes and has modified an RS3 what are the down sides you think in owning and modifying a car like that ?
People spend boatloads of coin on...boats, but they then only spend a few weeks on it over the year. I'd rather have a car as a money sink when I'm going to be driving it every day around legions who have no idea how to drive. My WRX will be faster than 95% who share the road with me, likely out handle them too, and it'll be a daily symbol of my individuality. Buy a new PC every year? Nah, how about saving up for more mods, tools, or another car to transform.
Cars represent a constant source of problem solving, it's something to take care of, and it's a canvas for creativity. I'll keep opinions to myself concerning other drivers' decisions regarding their mods, but I'm not likely going to respect some of the decisions I see on the road.
This is exactly how I feel I could not fine the words but you did. Absolutely perfect explanation. Something that very very few people get.
It's toxic asf lol, people comparing different cars and different engines with different parts and mods as if the one being better than the other means it has less value to the guy who owns and drives it.
Yeah the thought process there sucks and makes no sense really. Thanks for watching brother 🤙🏾!
I'm glad more people are talking about this. I got into the car scene around 2015, and I got out around 2017. It was just so lame. Everyone was an immature man child and almost no one knew much about cars or were even interested in the engineering of them. It was just about bags and wheels and maybe a tune and turbo upgrade. There wasn't a real community of people, it was just people became "friends" with whoever had the coolest cars. I quickly realized it was just about who had the most money to throw at a car, and no matter what you did 99% of people would have something negative to say about it.
Exactly i think maturing is realizing the car community is toxic too as a teen you dont mind it but as time passes its you realize how dumb it really is a mean people are making millions off us and we just go into debt because we want to impress ourselves because people are never pleased. People dont care about cars the way think they do and thats fine but everyone is an expert these days. I mean someone said that anyone can build a single over head cam as if thats supposed to be insulting. We are not inventing anything we are simply modifying and playing with what already exists. People need to be humble man
Im a car enthusiast and my 9th gen si is bone stock for now. I actually enjoy it relatively stock just due to how this new wave of “enthusiasts” act with they’re modified cars. They ruin it for everyone. Ive never been one to go to car meets or events out of fear that it could turn into one of those infamous taakeovers you see on instagram. Im just sad at what the car community has become. I look at old carmeet vids from 2003 here on RUclips and everyone was just out to have fun and not cause mischief. Car prices for a 240sx or an integra for example were normal priced and not hyped up to a ridiculous amount because of the internet. Peoples builds were unique because it wasn’t copied a dime a dozen like they are now thanks to social media. But now a days, if your car isn’t making 1000+hp, its deemed slow. High hp and fastest 0-60 times have replaced just enjoying your car and having fun. And im afraid its at a point of no return
Thats exactly where my mind is at currently. I see some positives but honestly I think it’s way too late. The car market does not make cars for us anymore and in the US its all trucks and SUVs. In a ideal world i see enthusiast cars being old JDM cars thats are way too expensive to buy and hard to find parts for and new enthusiast cars market up to oblivion and way to expensive for someone with a decent job to afford. I think the next 10-15 years will be the last ICEs we see and the last real “enthusiast” era we see. So enjoy your SI as much as you can brother. i appreciate your words and thanks for watching.
I have a 2013 turbo V6 mustang making over 450 to the wheels and a beater New Edge GT with the same stock 260 hp at the flywheel. I’ll let you guess which one gets way more hate by car guys, especially mustang guys. It was even worse when I had a 4.0 09 V6 mustang and that thing was still around as fast as a 2024 Civic Si, yet people hated on it and see a Civic Si as a true enthusiast car with nobody telling them they shouldve got a Type R instead.
The car community has always been lowkey trash, and I do it for me and my passion rather than to get recognition, that said i definitely also used to do similar hating, especially with the Honda Civic kids. I definitely let how ignorant some of their fans were effect my outlook on the cars before realizing i was making dumb generalizations and being a shithead myself
I think we are all guilty of drinking that hateraide. Ive seen cars that people just ruin just for clout. Its hard to respect a car with -30+ deg of camber and scraping the ground
Honestly, I think it's largely you. I mean that you have probably changed as much as the car culture over the years. I will say that online communities have done nothing good for car 'culture'. It's mostly useless dribble, advertisements, personalities, hype clowns, etc. What's sad is people apparently value the current online car culture, given the popularity of many horrible youtube channels. As other people are suggesting in the comments, just stay off internet/online car groups, or at least be very selective. That goes for car meets too. Shows like Cars and Coffee attract what I consider to be the worst type of enthusiasts. I'm not saying I dislike/don't respect them, but they have different priorities (and that's okay!). Car culture is larger than it has ever been. There is plenty of diversity, including the type of car people you miss/want. Enjoyed the listen
I agree maybe I m alone in this but I feel like I have out grown a portion of car culture how I used to know it. Online communities have helped in some ways and have taken more away from car culture than it’s given.
You mentioned horrible youtube channel….what would you consider as horrible Im open to some feedback on that for this one. My goals is to build things I m interested in while building connections with people such as yourself.
I agree with the different priorities in car enthusiasts and thats okay like you said. The best thing I guess would be to try to find liked minded people and just stick close to them because as large as car culture is there always seems to be that guy you know? Or that group!
I appreciate you stopping by brother any thank you for your time any additional feedback is much appreciated🫡🤙🏾
Im in the UK and own multiple vauxhall VXR's, i just got tired of the shit talk on them.. they are reliable and fast enough for me and with mods ive nailed the set up for my driving style! They arent fast nor high power but unreally dont care because back roads are so good to drive on and i trust the car will manage what i oush it through!
People at my worknalways say "why dont you just sell them all and get a decent car" because a "decent" car doenst give me joy like a clapped out hot hatch from my childhood dream. Im 28, got a family i could easily just get an m3 estate or something new like that but why? I have MULTIPLE collectors grade cars sitting and im happy with that
Great to hear from you from the UK 💪🏾 brother thats Awesome. Yeah we don’t get those in the states unfortunately but something comparable would be a Ford ST or fiesta ST which they stopped making or a VW GTi or Golf R a real enthusiast would appreciate a car like the VxR because its practical fun and quick. I mean we are not all able to afford fast super cars so we get what fits out lively hood.
I m 26 currently and I wish i could own more than just two cars but i have a family and thats worth the sacrifice as you know. People underestimate the situation we all have. Not everyone wants a car that cost a 60,000 Quid sometimes the cheaper beat up version or car brings us nostalgic feelings and brings us the most joy. Bought my first car 5 years ago and i dont see myself selling in a million years.
Thanks for sharing your story and tell everyone who doubts you to piss off because they just dont get it any never will.
I have honestly compared cars to drugs. They can be dangerous and get you into a lot of trouble. But, you’re chasing a feeling. It can be very rewarding and meaningful. But, just like drugs it can be quite the slippery slope and before you know it that house payment is now going to a GT3RS.. lol.. but also, finally getting those wheels that fit perfectly will always be extremly satisfying. Finally getting a car tuned, what a feeling that is, and also driving the car after its first tune or getting some coilovers. Yes, anything you do to a car can be extremely expensive. But, car people don’t see it that way, it’s the same as any other hobby except it’s just more expensive and has more dangers to it. Which is also why it can be so difficult in this day and age too. We are all busy people and it almost seems like our dollar just keeps losing value, With that being said who knows where the car culture will lead to.. E-bikes? smh. Clout is seaped into our hobby as well, and it seems like now everyone has insta stickers on their window and car tiktok accounts. It is all quite silly but it’s really not that horrible. I also think brand loyalty is goofy. Seriously just go out and try a different car you’d be surprised how much you enjoy it. Every car I’ve had so far has been a different brand. I actually got my first German car 3 weeks ago and I honestly couldn’t even picture myself in it before I test drove it, now.. it’s been a blast so far. But, I feel like people should just stop looking for attention, and just enjoy cars with other people, it’s not about if your faster or which brand is better. It’s all about having a laugh and enjoying it.
This sums up everything perfectly I would say. It really is like a drug a never ending addiction to our machines ever balancing the line between irresponsibility and rationality. The clout is a bad symptom of how mainstream modifying cars have become I still think it’s a rich persons game but it has been made more affordable. We should be extremely grateful for what we have thus far who know we could really he driving Ebikes 🤦🏾♂️. We just need to enjoy the passions and try to savor every last drop of performance cars we are still blessed to have.
This video is so true, I also drive a wrx 2002. The group pages are pretty toxic some are nicer than others but most of them troll the fuck out of people and very judgmental. Also the shop I wouldn’t take to is Walmart! I had such a bad experience taking my wrx there for an alignment and they took my car for a joy ride ! I had a gps with voice and sound recordings and my poor baby was reving at 8k rpms for almost 3 blocks. In the back ground you could literally hear 2 guys screaming and laughing 😡
I Love the bugeye wrx such a classic body. I agree the group pages are extremely frustrating people seem to intentionally be unhelpful because they think it’s assuming. Fuck Walmart id take a performance shop if i was desperate but that extremely disrespectful Id submit that to the manager and ask for full compensation on the service thats fcked up. Never again
It's all romantic and idealized watching others drive sports cars on instagram. Then you buy a sports car with all your money (problem 1) and you end up with original seats, wheels and exhaust in your living room up to the ceiling (problem 2) because you couldn't resist buying Recaro's and Supersprint exhaust... and that _is_ miserable, it's a full on lifestyle you have to dedicate your self to.
This is the truth if I did not know it before. The romantic idealization is so strong now a days because we see all these cars that are modded. Affirm is really really happy. I mean car are sooooo expensive to people who aren’t really into it like that Its a disgusting amount of money.
The older I get the less interested I am in street cars. Recently I’ve been contemplating on exactly why I like cars. For me, it boils down to thrill. I like feeling g forces on my body, it’s fun. Similar to a rollecoaster, in a sense. Thus I’ve taken to karting and sim racing, and would love to eventually graduate in to sports car racing like spec Miata/e36. I’ve become less obsessed with “stunting” on the street, because frankly, no one but other car enthusiasts give a flying fuck, and like you state here most of them just hate. I’ve been seeking more personal enjoyment, meaning I want something fun to drive around, something that makes me feel emotion. It’s a complicated topic, but I think folks should take a step back and decide if their car enthusiasm lies within personal enjoyment or within the approval of others.
Thats fascinating I too took to sim Racing and was heavily contemplating getting karting. Your story is. Also really showing that Maturity creates a big seperation between the enthusiast. Containing that joy and making it more about how you as a person feels and how much fun you are having is powerful.
I agree that’s a big question to aak is it the car or the people.
Really appreciate your feedback brother.
If you play ACC or AC if like to get your discord so maybe we can cruise around together one of these days.
I know exactly how you feel man, within a hobby, there's a sport involved, where there's a sport, there's competition, with competition there's ego and pride, ...and with ego and pride there's the toxicity and drama and jealously in the mix, and it all go downhill from there.
The love of this hobby has been with me since day 1 for over 3 decades and that will never change, don't let other unhappiness or petty projecting question your goals or what you truly enjoyed. At the end of the day, we all have one thing in common, the love of machines. and you got an awesome wrx man.
From New to old, from big to small, to American muscle to JDM or exotic. it doesn't matter the Brand or the size of the motor, I love them all. If money or space wasn't a factor I have a whole collection like a Forza Motorsport game lol.
For me it just being in my car and driving around cruising is the only time I feel any type of freedom or content that its almost threptic. the closest feeling to flying is riding a motorcycle.
Hey brother I really appreciate these words. It means a lot for you to take the time to write this thank you.
I agree we should not let anyone take about our happiness.
I think for most of us driving and cruising on some back roads is an escape from reality and it help keeps us grounded.
The feeling of riding a bike is unmatched. Sometimes i wish I had been a fighter pilot but then… maybe id have less time to actually enjoy the cars.
It was really great hearing from you
These days, I keep my car 100% stock looking, stay off the forums and keep my secrets. I may make a video at some point about all of my work, just to give ideas to whoever has the same car. It only sees a shop when it needs tires and I DREAD it every time... the upsells, oh how they try to upsell me. Every. Single Time. Sometimes, aggressively.
I Love that you are keeping it super simple and no complexity. Shops are the worse it really ugly reality that we gotta live with. Whats helped me in the past if finding an honest shop owner who loves the trade and loves helping people. This helps cut out the BS and most importantly $ markup on parts and labor
I used to run a large group called ARC it was fantastic until one of the heads opened the door to more people…unfortunately the group fell apart and it stopped being about taking out the chairs and relaxing with good people and cars. It’s about who’s faster how many mods you have and how I’m faster your slower. So I left…the group kept going but not in a good way. Being an 86 owner I’ve noticed other 86 owners don’t want to know you if you don’t have all the mods for it. People tend to pick on you because I’m a cruiser and not a racer. Ffs you ain’t in fast and the furious you pay rent and have a normal job like most of us…take a chill pill. So I had enough of the car scene glad I did leave and I feel better and enjoy and love building my car alone…my advice stay out of the car scene and just love you car and build it and enjoy it and let people who appreciate it come to you and enjoy the praise from the people that like your car. Shame on the people that ruined the car scene. Beautiful WRX brother looks amazing. Peace
I went through the same thing during and after the pandemic. Everyone knows the 86 is not build for straight line speed those guys sound ignorant. Yeah people forget that we are just normal lads that are trying to enjoy a hobby to escape the miserable suffering called existing snd surviving.
I am glad you found your peace brother that is worth everything in gold.
It’s always the people who overspend on their car (means more than they could have afforded) who trashtalk and get angry if you call their ride out. Someone said:“ if you spend everything on something, that something becomes your everything“. These clowns are easy to point out.
You are right about easy to point out clowns ! People always feel the need to validate themselves by comparing and putting others down. So they spend more and trash other more because it justifies them going broke for clout