You don't have to lay down oil pastel so thickly. Try using layers and smudging with a paper stump, then adding another layer. If this is done on textured paper it creates a far more interesting effect and the 'tooth' of the paper makes the pastel stick. Details are added after you've got the base colours down. This way you don't get the thick, crumbly texture you're finding. The reason the colours are losing brightness is that you're blending colours which make mud, such as the orangey-red and purpley-blue. I have both these and the Mungyo Gallery. The Mungyo are more opaque but less soft and vibrant. Both have their place. I also have the Rubens Pastel colour set, but rarely use this and don't recommend them unless you use lots of very light colours.
Thank you for sharing your approach and point of view on this! I am still very much experimenting with ways to use oil pastels and I do really like to use them like this. I just think this brand doesn't work that well with my way of working right now. This is of course something that will be different for everyone and so different brands will appeal to different artists. Glad to hear you are enjoying these pastels!
I can get good detail without blending stump (I hate how oil pastel looks blended with stump or finger) but these pastels are just so gummy and inconsistent. I only ever use them for impasto effects on pieces I’m not worried about ruining
@@liliax9147 Lately I've been trying to blend less and see how that looks and I agree with you that you can get good detail with oil pastels, just need to have the right ones! What's your favorite brand?
@@roosvandermeijs I like cray pas expressionist and sennelier. I’m looking for a nice one in between (cray pas are pretty hard) so I’m dying to get some neopastels
Thank you.. ❤ I will definitely buy Mungyo gallery, but I will also be buying this I just want to experience this and the Haiya version. Love the review❤
А мне понравилась эта пастель , у меня есть 12. цветов этой пастели и есть ещё 72 цвета купила недавно тоже рубис , но акварельными карандашами , как сенелье , очень мягкая , но я люблю растирать , получаю от этого удовольствие и есть галерри 48 цветов , есть гамма , она очень похожа на корейскую , така как сделана в Корее и в один в один и есть Малевич , но эта пастель меня удивила , она не хуже рубис, она очень мягкая , если изх смешивать , то просто великолепна , с Гаммой и галерри ещё не пробовала , ну думаю , что они очень укрывистые и можно совмещать , я видела как другие художники работают вместе с рубисом и другими памстелями , они все мягкие и я очень довольна , а вам желаю творческих успехов .
This is so correct about this particular set!!! Lindsey from the frugal crafter had recommended these and honestly I wish I’d seen your video!! Alas, nothing compares to actually working with them and it’s such a disappointment!!! The only way I’ve found them to be useful is layering on top of my gallery pastels, only using a tiny bit, etc. I use a plastic shaper tool for blending that works really well. It’s actually for watercolor masking fluid, but I’ve heard the ones used for nail art are less expensive. Anyway, very good review of a difficult to work with product. If anyone says these are like sennelier…they’re LYING!! And are getting paid for you to waste your money on these!
Thank you, I agree! I bought them bc of a few reviews that said they were good, but I do not like them at all. Good to hear the Mungyonones are better. You do mean their *soft* oil pastels right? Because I have their oil pastels and they are a lower grade I think.
I believe Mungyos have two different levels of oil pastels....Gallery Standard and Gallery Artist. I remember when I was researching this medium and brand in particular, I was seeing two different price points. Maybe you have the Standard ones?
I've seen that crumbly characteristic of these pastels in other reviews too and I kinda like it (not sure if it is too much but it seems to give some personality to the brand I guess). And I tend not to smudge oil pastels, I like some texture, but I wonder if I would like that much crumbliness. I'm still undecided to purchase them, in one hand I want to try them but in the other hand meh...Nice review by the way 😀
Absolutely! I think if you're looking for a textured oil pastel this might just be for you. It's definitely a unique feature of this brand. And thank you!
I never tryed that yet as a self tought disabled ( born with microcephaly) artist that’s been painting sence a infant, I’ve never done stupid collage or class or school for art and I think college and school is dumb and they just want to take money and ruin self tought real artist lives and shut them Down . I can tell those pastels is great only a real artist can see . It’s not like things like artist loft . Try them again many times abs years and see what you think . Remember there is no rule or mistake or perfect art even if you have pastels that looks amazing like Paul rubins that’s crummy good texture and mix it with sennieler oil pastels . Try again many times . I bet artist like Van Gogh,picaso and others would use pastels like that . I might get them and hope it comes before may because I am going to Florida for my grandfathers memorial which I have have to bring his painting I made for him too which it’s on my channel on RUclips (Dellavale Banbury Cowboy) but I rather go find the man that murdered my grandfather than go to the memorial,I wanted to buy the Paul rubins oil pastels to bring even my sennieler pastels to sketch . Try those again many times and years and see how you feel but most of the time when it’s textured you got to smooth it . 8:42
Absolutely agree with your opinion, Mungyo gallery is much better for the same price. But my favorite oil pastels is Neopastel. Top of the top for drawing details and mixing layers, but the most expensive kit.
Yes I agree, Neopastel are the overall best - a little firmer than the excellent Sennelier, which makes them a little more versatile. My other favourite are Holbein; very good for blending, highly opaque, though not quite as soft as the Neopastel and Sennelier, but still good for final detail. I love that they have no wrapping and are long and rectangular. Large areas can be covered quickly by applying the edge of the pastel to the media surface.
Your judgement about these oil pastels are so true . I have heard many comparisons, but I appreciate your aesthetic perception and , Specially your sensitivity about the shades of lilac , I had also the same reaction !👍
The regular Paul Rubens oil pastel set is OK. I also got their "pastel color (macaron)" version thru Amazon and they were horrible. They were covered in wax and were so messy. Bad quality control I guess?
Oh yes I also got the pastel version. I guess it really is bad quality control because some colors are really good, smooth, and buttery, and some just contain way too much wax. Glad I'm not the only one experiencing this!
@@roosvandermeijs On the subject of bad oil pastels, stay away from the Camel "Artist" oil pastels (they are made in India) and have so much wax they can be better used as candles. Funny thing is their "regular" (non-Artist) Camel version is cheaper and still decent! Ahh, the joys and tribulations of trying out different brands!
@@jsprite123 haha that sounds awful, thanks for the warning, I'll stay away from those! It's a fun journey finding something that's both decent and works for you :)
Thank you so much for this. I was trying to decide between Mungyo Gallery and these ones and you helped a lot.
First review ive heard of this brand that ISNT raving. I appreciate the honesty. I like the work you made with them ❤
I love your room background! I want to decorate my room with my own artwork too ❤
You don't have to lay down oil pastel so thickly. Try using layers and smudging with a paper stump, then adding another layer. If this is done on textured paper it creates a far more interesting effect and the 'tooth' of the paper makes the pastel stick. Details are added after you've got the base colours down. This way you don't get the thick, crumbly texture you're finding.
The reason the colours are losing brightness is that you're blending colours which make mud, such as the orangey-red and purpley-blue.
I have both these and the Mungyo Gallery. The Mungyo are more opaque but less soft and vibrant. Both have their place. I also have the Rubens Pastel colour set, but rarely use this and don't recommend them unless you use lots of very light colours.
Thank you for sharing your approach and point of view on this! I am still very much experimenting with ways to use oil pastels and I do really like to use them like this. I just think this brand doesn't work that well with my way of working right now. This is of course something that will be different for everyone and so different brands will appeal to different artists. Glad to hear you are enjoying these pastels!
I can get good detail without blending stump (I hate how oil pastel looks blended with stump or finger) but these pastels are just so gummy and inconsistent. I only ever use them for impasto effects on pieces I’m not worried about ruining
@@liliax9147 Lately I've been trying to blend less and see how that looks and I agree with you that you can get good detail with oil pastels, just need to have the right ones! What's your favorite brand?
@@roosvandermeijs I like cray pas expressionist and sennelier. I’m looking for a nice one in between (cray pas are pretty hard) so I’m dying to get some neopastels
@@liliax9147 The neopastels are amazing, I can also recommend mungyo if you're looking for something that's in between hard and soft!
Thank you.. ❤ I will definitely buy Mungyo gallery, but I will also be buying this I just want to experience this and the Haiya version. Love the review❤
А мне понравилась эта пастель , у меня есть 12. цветов этой пастели и есть ещё 72 цвета купила недавно тоже рубис , но акварельными карандашами , как сенелье , очень мягкая , но я люблю растирать , получаю от этого удовольствие и есть галерри 48 цветов , есть гамма , она очень похожа на корейскую , така как сделана в Корее и в один в один и есть Малевич , но эта пастель меня удивила , она не хуже рубис, она очень мягкая , если изх смешивать , то просто великолепна , с Гаммой и галерри ещё не пробовала , ну думаю , что они очень укрывистые и можно совмещать , я видела как другие художники работают вместе с рубисом и другими памстелями , они все мягкие и я очень довольна , а вам желаю творческих успехов .
This is so correct about this particular set!!! Lindsey from the frugal crafter had recommended these and honestly I wish I’d seen your video!! Alas, nothing compares to actually working with them and it’s such a disappointment!!! The only way I’ve found them to be useful is layering on top of my gallery pastels, only using a tiny bit, etc. I use a plastic shaper tool for blending that works really well. It’s actually for watercolor masking fluid, but I’ve heard the ones used for nail art are less expensive. Anyway, very good review of a difficult to work with product. If anyone says these are like sennelier…they’re LYING!! And are getting paid for you to waste your money on these!
Thank you, I agree! I bought them bc of a few reviews that said they were good, but I do not like them at all. Good to hear the Mungyonones are better. You do mean their *soft* oil pastels right? Because I have their oil pastels and they are a lower grade I think.
Yes I mean the soft oil pastels, still one of my favorites!
I believe Mungyos have two different levels of oil pastels....Gallery Standard and Gallery Artist. I remember when I was researching this medium and brand in particular, I was seeing two different price points. Maybe you have the Standard ones?
I've seen that crumbly characteristic of these pastels in other reviews too and I kinda like it (not sure if it is too much but it seems to give some personality to the brand I guess). And I tend not to smudge oil pastels, I like some texture, but I wonder if I would like that much crumbliness. I'm still undecided to purchase them, in one hand I want to try them but in the other hand meh...Nice review by the way 😀
Absolutely! I think if you're looking for a textured oil pastel this might just be for you. It's definitely a unique feature of this brand. And thank you!
I would like it, but they are also sticky/gummy and don’t layer well. I find using these pastels to be a very frustrating experience
I never tryed that yet as a self tought disabled ( born with microcephaly) artist that’s been painting sence a infant, I’ve never done stupid collage or class or school for art and I think college and school is dumb and they just want to take money and ruin self tought real artist lives and shut them Down . I can tell those pastels is great only a real artist can see . It’s not like things like artist loft . Try them again many times abs years and see what you think . Remember there is no rule or mistake or perfect art even if you have pastels that looks amazing like Paul rubins that’s crummy good texture and mix it with sennieler oil pastels . Try again many times . I bet artist like Van Gogh,picaso and others would use pastels like that . I might get them and hope it comes before may because I am going to Florida for my grandfathers memorial which I have have to bring his painting I made for him too which it’s on my channel on RUclips (Dellavale Banbury Cowboy) but I rather go find the man that murdered my grandfather than go to the memorial,I wanted to buy the Paul rubins oil pastels to bring even my sennieler pastels to sketch .
Try those again many times and years and see how you feel but most of the time when it’s textured you got to smooth it . 8:42
Absolutely agree with your opinion, Mungyo gallery is much better for the same price. But my favorite oil pastels is Neopastel. Top of the top for drawing details and mixing layers, but the most expensive kit.
Sounds amazing! Will definitely also try those in the future, thanks for the recommendation ✨
Yes I agree, Neopastel are the overall best - a little firmer than the excellent Sennelier, which makes them a little more versatile. My other favourite are Holbein; very good for blending, highly opaque, though not quite as soft as the Neopastel and Sennelier, but still good for final detail. I love that they have no wrapping and are long and rectangular. Large areas can be covered quickly by applying the edge of the pastel to the media surface.
@@tomkecskemeti3062 thank you for reviewing Holbein! I have to try them!
@@tomkecskemeti3062 ooo that sounds good, will add it to my list of pastels to try, thanks!! 👌
Your judgement about these oil pastels are so true . I have heard many comparisons, but I appreciate your aesthetic perception and , Specially your sensitivity about the shades of lilac , I had also the same reaction !👍
Glad to hear I'm not the only one feeling like this! Lilac is definitely an important one for me haha
The regular Paul Rubens oil pastel set is OK. I also got their "pastel color (macaron)" version thru Amazon and they were horrible. They were covered in wax and were so messy. Bad quality control I guess?
Oh yes I also got the pastel version. I guess it really is bad quality control because some colors are really good, smooth, and buttery, and some just contain way too much wax. Glad I'm not the only one experiencing this!
@@roosvandermeijs On the subject of bad oil pastels, stay away from the Camel "Artist" oil pastels (they are made in India) and have so much wax they can be better used as candles. Funny thing is their "regular" (non-Artist) Camel version is cheaper and still decent! Ahh, the joys and tribulations of trying out different brands!
@@jsprite123 haha that sounds awful, thanks for the warning, I'll stay away from those! It's a fun journey finding something that's both decent and works for you :)
I felt crazy seeing the reviews for these pastels bc I kinda hate them lol
So glad I'm not the only one haha! They don't work at all for me either
@@roosvandermeijs try again