People are leaving a lot of negative comments but !!! He’s playing for dream theater & your watching him. So for All the f..k Heads 🤪🤪comments, I guess he doesn’t really suck that much. That why were watching him🤩
How on earth is this boring to people? He literally starts the solo doing something 90% of drummers are never able to do! Every second of this is mindblowing. It is beyond comprehension sometimes even as a drummer myself! Lol what bullshit comments about no groove or feeling. The grooves he is pulling off are utterly beyond most peoples abilities. Yeah ok so its not 'palatable' for non-drummers but who cares. I hate to use the phrase but Mangini really is a drummers drummer.
That's exactly it, he's essentially ONLY a drummer's drummer, especially in this solo. If you don't play drums, most of what he plays goes way over your head because it doesn't really SOUND very good. Yes, it's impressive but most of that cymbal stuff at the beginning didn't really sound like anything musical at all.
I am a drummer and do "pam papapapa pam, papapapa pam" on kick drums is not difficult. And do quick fill ins on snare drums and tom toms is not so difficult either. but, if you do that bass drum thing, and keep the same groove all the time, while you do those crazy fill ins, then you're in a completely different league. Wow..! Amazing...
Not really. There are a lot of shortcomings of his ignored by a section of the population trying to make the art of drumming into something a midi controller can do.
@@RandyHanley no doubt MM is better then MP but MP still had the most influence in my growing years of drumming, not because of his patterns or, lets call em mid class techniques but with that soul for music he had 20 years ago... a mangini never gave me that goosebumps and its a fact, that his sound makes DT Music robotic and super uninteressting for me... even tho hes a beast and got super skills for polyrythms and stick technique (and foot aswell when he was younger lol) he will never be such an influence as portnoy has been and I think there a lot of drummers out there thinkin the same... however, DT got boring years before MP left but with his leaving i never had goosebumps on any of the newer dt songs again. they got old :D
Drummers out there: It's called 'soloing over an ostinato'. You play a repetitive pattern (in this case: "bd bd bd bd rest rest" in sixteenths with both feet), creating a '3/4' or '6/8' feel, while playing whatever you can imagine and create with your hands. Other examples? Check out Terry Bozzio and type "ostinato" It will frustrate you at first but will make you a better drummer later :) Try simple patterns first and build from there.
To those who keep insisting that Portnoy is better than Mangini, I can guarantee that Portnoy couldn't do this solo IN HIS DREAMS let alone in real life!!! Technically, Mangini is light years ahead of Portnoy and anybody who has just a tiny remote knowledge of drums can see this!! Oh btw, Mangini can play any and all styles!! He wouldn't have been accepted at Berklee as a teacher if he couldn't and for those that say he can't play rock or metal, you obviously never heard him in Extreme!!
Welcome to the entrance of a pretty deep rabbit hole... Virgil Donati is another unicorn you might wanna checkout. Once these guys go deep into their zones, don't be surprised if your brain regresses into primordial slime from the experience... lol
@@pipps1158but you do agree Virgil is in another hemisphere than Mancini, right? Like a million times better… Virgil you could mention along side of Vinnie, Weckl, Chambers, Billy, Sanchez, Smith, Erskine, or any of the new breed and not question yourself. Mike is great but sounds more like a guy that spent years playing through the Gary Chester book. Virgil is simply way better but with that saying I would choose Virgil in a heartbeat over Thomas Lang and I love Lang and think he’s way better than MM. The truth is it’s not a competition with drumming, it’s more about who inspires you. It’s very obvious MM went through the New Breed book and listened to a lot of Billy Cobham and the guys he influenced. With that said I would suggest to everyone reading this to check out Simon Phillips if you haven’t already. Obviously we know who he’s drumming with these days and that says a lot but check out his solo and fusion stuff from the past couple years he’s on a world class level of independence, he’s got a lot more swing, and is in the 1% on a world level of technique.
he also has another ostinatos, actually i dont like the sound of the 5 single stroke sound live , because he uses triggers and the sound is flat, in this solo there is no triggers, so the ostinato sounds with accents... :(
That's a technique bro. All of the camera angles are laid down on the timeline one by one by muting each video after they were checked accurately then when they are all done, you can play the different angles by splitting the tracks in your desired choice to make the editing process easily
@@SuperPryanik are you fucking kidding me. he can play twice as fast than portnoy with only one hand lol and he can play way more complex beat . Why wouldnt he deserve to be in dream theater? He deserve it more than any other drummer out there and even more than portnoy so stfu when you dont know what your talking about...
All the negative comments and opinions of MM and his playing make me laugh; yet I don't recall any of the naysayers auditioning for DT, as MM did and land the gig. You can nitpick and say negative things about MM and/or his skillset all day long, but remember when you do you take ignorance to a level beyond understanding and clearly do not fully grasp MM's abilities including beyond the drum kit. MP is still a world-class drummer, but the bottom line is he was burned out and walked away while the rest of the band wanted to move forward, which is the best thing MP could've done for his former bandmates. Let's be realistic, had MP stayed or been allowed to return to DT after his hope of permanently joining A7X failed, the entire band and its musical direction would've suffered greatly, he wasn't into it anymore so naturally he wouldn't have been able to contribute to anything. It's been 9 years, DT and MP have moved on and you shouldn't continue wasting your time worrying about something clearly out of your control and about something that will never be as it was 1985-2010. Just learn to appreciate DT as they are, obviously it's working well for them especially given the amazing work of DOT, which is thankfully and rightfully devoid of any influence from misguided individuals who think MP's style still belongs.
@@jagzin6147 Vinnie is a legend, but when he creates something that comes close to a song called Rosetta Stoned, then call me. Danny beats him in creativity.
@@RicoLee27 my man, I have NO IDEA why I left those comments here, I was a kid and was in my Tool crazy phase and was dickriding Danny Carey sooo hard. He is still one of my favourite drummers, and I'm still not a huge fan of Mangini here, though his level of precision is virtually unmatched by many a drummer today. There was no need to compare legendary drummers. I'm going to leave the comments up just for myself to see how much I've matured over 5 years. Thank you for reminding me!
Every genius has to have some kind of weirdness to his art. Unfortunately most people tend to see the weird instead of the art in Mangini. Although I still prefer Mikes style of playing in DT, this love this fu**ing guy!
I think people say he has no feel because the parts that he writes for dt are so technical. remember, for 3 dt albums, he didn't even contribute to the overall song ideas. mangini has tonnes of feel, but that's not the style that he shows in dt, and I love that
Just wondering, but when did Mike Mangini make his signature sticks? Since here his sticks either look like really beaten up versions of his stick or any other drumstick. Sorry for my lack of knowledge about the great master of drums (at least in my opinion To each their own).
I wouldn't call this a drum solo but a _drum petterns live study_ since he's improvising in this clinic. He does drum solos nowadays with Dream Theater!
I will look like stupid If Im the one who do that cymbals only intro even if I hit those things the same way He did it. But it looks cool if its Him who does it 🤣.
Travis, scott leaves both mangini, also portney within land time forgot". Double bass triplets, as well as symbol/bass timed excursions bringing his tama set to full capabilitys is stellar". Racer/x eveb within his younger years, post priest added even more double bass patents, designed/played by scott in there entirety".
El la vega!! It's like the sound of a beat pad but, only a person doing it. That's bad ass. I beat he can do some EBM type shit, deby deb, or Latin rascals. I like the way the bubble staked simbles sound. I wonder how a dibble stak hi hat would sound?
It's so hard to stick out with so many fantastic players out there. No one plays like Mike. From the kit setup that fits his playing to the hand speed and knowing when to play and when to leave space. He can groove and he can rip. One of a kind.
@@grubbetuchus His only amazing ability is his ability pay all those people to put together those kits for him. I'd sooner pay more attention to GG Allen. He has the same amount of talent and what he does with it is slightly less disgusting.
I've literally never seen anyone who matches Mangini's single hand speed, and his single stroke rolls are insane as well. Buddy Rich was fast, but Mangini definitely has the edge in speed. I still enjoy Buddy Rich's solos more, though. One of the best drum soloists of all time, IMO.
he is on another level, insane mastery... he's actually playing, having fun
A new level of drumming! Outstanding!
People are leaving a lot of negative comments but !!! He’s playing for dream theater & your watching him. So for All the f..k Heads 🤪🤪comments, I guess he doesn’t really suck that much. That why were watching him🤩
MorbidManMusic just bc you think hes boring does not make it true
How on earth is this boring to people? He literally starts the solo doing something 90% of drummers are never able to do! Every second of this is mindblowing. It is beyond comprehension sometimes even as a drummer myself! Lol what bullshit comments about no groove or feeling. The grooves he is pulling off are utterly beyond most peoples abilities. Yeah ok so its not 'palatable' for non-drummers but who cares. I hate to use the phrase but Mangini really is a drummers drummer.
It's pretty boring, go check Dave Weckl if you want to be entertained.
That's exactly it, he's essentially ONLY a drummer's drummer, especially in this solo. If you don't play drums, most of what he plays goes way over your head because it doesn't really SOUND very good. Yes, it's impressive but most of that cymbal stuff at the beginning didn't really sound like anything musical at all.
I am a drummer and do "pam papapapa pam, papapapa pam" on kick drums is not difficult. And do quick fill ins on snare drums and tom toms is not so difficult either. but, if you do that bass drum thing, and keep the same groove all the time, while you do those crazy fill ins, then you're in a completely different league. Wow..! Amazing...
@@Ricki_Snow dave is boring af.
The ability of a true artist is to be able to appreciate something for what it is, not what it compares to. Good call!
Both mikes kick ass in different ways kick ass solo.
Here’s a hot take. People only hate Mangini because he replaced Portnoy and objectivity is thrown out the window.
Or just because the new song and esp. the drums are boring as shit. Maybe it's that.
@@riverfilms4548 No.... People only hate him because hes the replacement for portnoy THATS IT!!!!! and by the way you sound like one of them.....
Not really. There are a lot of shortcomings of his ignored by a section of the population trying to make the art of drumming into something a midi controller can do.
It’s funny that people are too blind to realize that Mangini is multitudes better than Portnoy.
@@RandyHanley no doubt MM is better then MP but MP still had the most influence in my growing years of drumming, not because of his patterns or, lets call em mid class techniques but with that soul for music he had 20 years ago... a mangini never gave me that goosebumps and its a fact, that his sound makes DT Music robotic and super uninteressting for me... even tho hes a beast and got super skills for polyrythms and stick technique (and foot aswell when he was younger lol) he will never be such an influence as portnoy has been and I think there a lot of drummers out there thinkin the same... however, DT got boring years before MP left but with his leaving i never had goosebumps on any of the newer dt songs again. they got old :D
Mangini is the best drummer on earth....
Period.
Naaaw
Ever hear of Matt Garstka?
Of course Mangini is the greatest drummer in human history
Maybe it's time to listen to other drummers
I can do this...
I mean the face.. lol
Comment of the day. Had my laugh for this day. Thanks bro :P
Drummers out there: It's called 'soloing over an ostinato'. You play a repetitive pattern (in this case: "bd bd bd bd rest rest" in sixteenths with both feet), creating a '3/4' or '6/8' feel, while playing whatever you can imagine and create with your hands. Other examples? Check out Terry Bozzio and type "ostinato" It will frustrate you at first but will make you a better drummer later :) Try simple patterns first and build from there.
Awesome, I’ll try this! Thanks!
To those who keep insisting that Portnoy is better than Mangini, I can guarantee that Portnoy couldn't do this solo IN HIS DREAMS let alone in real life!!! Technically, Mangini is light years ahead of Portnoy and anybody who has just a tiny remote knowledge of drums can see this!! Oh btw, Mangini can play any and all styles!! He wouldn't have been accepted at Berklee as a teacher if he couldn't and for those that say he can't play rock or metal, you obviously never heard him in Extreme!!
His playing with Annihilator is a SICK example of his ability to play metal.
Mangini is a fucking monster.
I had both mikes do drum clinics for me. hands down, Mike Mangini was the better player/teacher.
Why play the boring stuff you can hear from any other drummer. Mangini is playing what no one else can do.
That's right bro
It is like they are playing so amazing such that it is hard to understand their drumming..
Not true. There are many pros that can do what he does. It’s not a competition though.
God: *sparks a blunt* "Fuck it, let's give this one extra fast-twitch muscles."
I'm embarrassed to say this , but i've only learned of Mike Mangini in the last month . This guy is NUTs !!!!!
Super natural talent !
Lol
Me also
Welcome to the entrance of a pretty deep rabbit hole... Virgil Donati is another unicorn you might wanna checkout. Once these guys go deep into their zones, don't be surprised if your brain regresses into primordial slime from the experience... lol
"natural" haha
@@pipps1158but you do agree Virgil is in another hemisphere than Mancini, right? Like a million times better… Virgil you could mention along side of Vinnie, Weckl, Chambers, Billy, Sanchez, Smith, Erskine, or any of the new breed and not question yourself. Mike is great but sounds more like a guy that spent years playing through the Gary Chester book. Virgil is simply way better but with that saying I would choose Virgil in a heartbeat over Thomas Lang and I love Lang and think he’s way better than MM. The truth is it’s not a competition with drumming, it’s more about who inspires you. It’s very obvious MM went through the New Breed book and listened to a lot of Billy Cobham and the guys he influenced. With that said I would suggest to everyone reading this to check out Simon Phillips if you haven’t already. Obviously we know who he’s drumming with these days and that says a lot but check out his solo and fusion stuff from the past couple years he’s on a world class level of independence, he’s got a lot more swing, and is in the 1% on a world level of technique.
Drum in this video sounded better than the next 4 albums
Legend has it that he still sitting there playing that beat on the bass to this day.
he also has another ostinatos, actually i dont like the sound of the 5 single stroke sound live , because he uses triggers and the sound is flat, in this solo there is no triggers, so the ostinato sounds with accents... :(
Lol
They need to hook those kick drums up to led triggers... that kick pattern is quite hypnotic when you listen to it long enough...
NICE! Love that kit!
best solo drum ever... he can consistent in kick n enjoy with his stick... salute master mister mangini..
Mike is FASTER than lightning! I have a hard time believing my own eyes/ears!
03:50 simply lovely
That video editing is god tier... Know to places transition perfectly
That's a technique bro. All of the camera angles are laid down on the timeline one by one by muting each video after they were checked accurately then when they are all done, you can play the different angles by splitting the tracks in your desired choice to make the editing process easily
Despite his hands were so busy, his feet were steady... Wow...
That's very difficult, music players know that is not easy to play
Also does anyone know the year of this
Unbelievable control and speed! Truly a very physical performance that most would not be able to pull off. And those one handed rolls-wow!
his "karate kid" phase...
7:35 OMG
fucking sick...lov u mike...dream theater love it
both sides of brain works togather ...
He’s single hand is faster than me in both hand
great drummer, not sure if drum theater deserves him.
Yep he could be to great for DT!! He is a monster of drumming on his own...
Not sure if he deserves Dream Theater!
@@SuperPryanik are you fucking kidding me. he can play twice as fast than portnoy with only one hand lol and he can play way more complex beat . Why wouldnt he deserve to be in dream theater? He deserve it more than any other drummer out there and even more than portnoy so stfu when you dont know what your talking about...
Well Dream Theater has had a good album and he hasn't.
@@flacidhouse350 Sure it must be money,
Toooop 👍🎶
nice tom tuning and impressive technical performance !
Thank you for uploading this because it was deleted from youtube a long time ago (Y)
this is one of the best live recordings i have heard.drums are recorded perfectly and Mangini....well come on he mastered the art of drums haha!
All the negative comments and opinions of MM and his playing make me laugh; yet I don't recall any of the naysayers auditioning for DT, as MM did and land the gig. You can nitpick and say negative things about MM and/or his skillset all day long, but remember when you do you take ignorance to a level beyond understanding and clearly do not fully grasp MM's abilities including beyond the drum kit. MP is still a world-class drummer, but the bottom line is he was burned out and walked away while the rest of the band wanted to move forward, which is the best thing MP could've done for his former bandmates. Let's be realistic, had MP stayed or been allowed to return to DT after his hope of permanently joining A7X failed, the entire band and its musical direction would've suffered greatly, he wasn't into it anymore so naturally he wouldn't have been able to contribute to anything. It's been 9 years, DT and MP have moved on and you shouldn't continue wasting your time worrying about something clearly out of your control and about something that will never be as it was 1985-2010. Just learn to appreciate DT as they are, obviously it's working well for them especially given the amazing work of DOT, which is thankfully and rightfully devoid of any influence from misguided individuals who think MP's style still belongs.
master of the polyrythm
That's Danny Carey, this is master of boring
LeToplache007 Fuck off. Danny is good but Vinnie Colaiuta is the undisputed master of the polyrhythm.
@@jagzin6147 Vinnie is a legend, but when he creates something that comes close to a song called Rosetta Stoned, then call me. Danny beats him in creativity.
Why don't you do a solo with technique like he showed in the "boring" video? Not even coming close@@LeToplache007
@@RicoLee27 my man, I have NO IDEA why I left those comments here, I was a kid and was in my Tool crazy phase and was dickriding Danny Carey sooo hard. He is still one of my favourite drummers, and I'm still not a huge fan of Mangini here, though his level of precision is virtually unmatched by many a drummer today. There was no need to compare legendary drummers.
I'm going to leave the comments up just for myself to see how much I've matured over 5 years. Thank you for reminding me!
the goat
best drum solo ever??this base drums
That was fun to watch!
I remember this! This was back in the day when Mike Mangini was John Travolta. :)
The stuff he plays is absolutely mind-blowing!
Every genius has to have some kind of weirdness to his art. Unfortunately most people tend to see the weird instead of the art in Mangini. Although I still prefer Mikes style of playing in DT, this love this fu**ing guy!
i don't like him..good tech..but NO GROOVE
I think people say he has no feel because the parts that he writes for dt are so technical. remember, for 3 dt albums, he didn't even contribute to the overall song ideas. mangini has tonnes of feel, but that's not the style that he shows in dt, and I love that
Idiot Petrucci , ruddess wouldn't let him, with skill and talent Mike has.
man with many faces
Just wondering, but when did Mike Mangini make his signature sticks? Since here his sticks either look like really beaten up versions of his stick or any other drumstick. Sorry for my lack of knowledge about the great master of drums (at least in my opinion To each their own).
well this is so inspirational. I would have never thought drum solos can also be "conversational"
This makes Bozzio seem more approachable...
This is what peak performance looks like
amazing , nice , good brain
And all this time I though Chuck Mangioni played french horn!
Mike Portnoy is far from this talended!!!!
It sounds like a bozzio knock off solo
WTF. Was that a solo, or a stupid face pulling contest combined with annoying the living shit out of everyone?
Bizarre.
He is like a more mainstream Terry Bozio
De los mejores sin lugar a dudas(One of the best without a doubt)
So he's as fast as my fastest clean single stroke roll.....
with one fukkin hand 😒
I quit 😂😂😂
I wouldn't call this a drum solo but a _drum petterns live study_ since he's improvising in this clinic. He does drum solos nowadays with Dream Theater!
MikeVonDoom I'd call it a solo. He is the only one playing.
Geeez throw those cymbals away.
joe hopes he’s my second favorite drummer
But I think his cymbals are crap!
I will look like stupid If Im the one who do that cymbals only intro even if I hit those things the same way He did it. But it looks cool if its Him who does it 🤣.
Daniel san?
He has a great technique but it's not enjoyable to listen
Neil Peart unbeatable!!
Travis, scott leaves both mangini, also portney within land time forgot". Double bass triplets, as well as symbol/bass timed excursions bringing his tama set to full capabilitys is stellar". Racer/x eveb within his younger years, post priest added even more double bass patents, designed/played by scott in there entirety".
Yeah..its boring for non drummers cause dont understand at all,but the tecnicallity and all the stuffs are woww..best all time for drummers like us😁😁
El la vega!! It's like the sound of a beat pad but, only a person doing it. That's bad ass. I beat he can do some EBM type shit, deby deb, or Latin rascals. I like the way the bubble staked simbles sound. I wonder how a dibble stak hi hat would sound?
Yeah, I can do that
If only the drum mix sounded this good in newer Dream Theater
Yeah. New sounds too processed and poppy in the mix
Thankfully...Virgil Donati saved me from the likes of the unbearable Mangini. There should be a law.
BORING....
He’s crying in the thumbnail
Where is part 2?
Get a whole new appreciation for Portnoy!
ruclips.net/video/BqtQpLXde6U/видео.html
It's so hard to stick out with so many fantastic players out there. No one plays like Mike. From the kit setup that fits his playing to the hand speed and knowing when to play and when to leave space. He can groove and he can rip. One of a kind.
it was done long time before Billy Cobham
イライラするドラムソロだなぁ…、
前置きみたいのが、長すぎる👎
Reminds me of Terry Bozzio
minus the soul of Bozzio.
@@grubbetuchus Bozzio has no soul or chops.
Bozzio has no soul or chops? Maybe his amazing abilities to establish a groove is missed by you. No problem, just pay more attention to him.
@@grubbetuchus His only amazing ability is his ability pay all those people to put together those kits for him. I'd sooner pay more attention to GG Allen. He has the same amount of talent and what he does with it is slightly less disgusting.
Stfp.bozzio and mangini are both phenominal
Zzzz...
is mikes sigle stroke rolls faster then BUddy rich? sure seems like it..
I've literally never seen anyone who matches Mangini's single hand speed, and his single stroke rolls are insane as well. Buddy Rich was fast, but Mangini definitely has the edge in speed. I still enjoy Buddy Rich's solos more, though. One of the best drum soloists of all time, IMO.
try flo mounier, he's preeetty fast but maybe not quite as fast as mangini tho
I would say mangini is quicker but buddy had way more skill/control, especially on his accented notes and rudimental patterns.
true conversation
yawn
Damn bit disrespectful bet you can't do that
he should have done it with one foot, would be more impressive
How he keep those double beat stay in exactly same groove
Practice?
bermain drum diluar nalar .. Profesor 👍🏻😎
Man's a genius!
Jesus man hit some skins
7 min. In to it and I’m still waiting for it to start. 1 more min and I’m out of here
Dumb fuck.
Permainanya telalu bertele bnget..membosankn..
Wax on good sir, wax on.
mike mangini the true master!!!
He is a Paganini!!!!
Muy tecnico pero,falto de onda.
I was there!
Q solo culiao mas hermoso
Beast
Orang gila good player drum
OH MY GOD
This is 90% a comedy from Mike, 8% facial contortions, and 1% drumming 😂
Oh just fuck off. You don't deserve to listen to him.
This seems like one of those "shreds" videos but unfortunately it's not
Spectacular!
dry as sand dust in sahara ....