Razor E300 Scooter Mods & Upgrades

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • Today is Install Day!
    -Duane
    Links are below:
    This is the throttle & controller I bought www.ebay.com/i...
    This is the battery I bought www.ebay.com/i...
    Music is Operatic 3 by Vibe Mountain from RUclips's Free Audio Library.

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  • @jayracz701
    @jayracz701 4 года назад +5

    I modded my e300 and I am happy to say it’s waaaaay better! It climbs hills like a champ now! I stuck a e bike 1500w controller in the old battery bin under the deck. There was not any room in there for anything else once you add all those wires too. So I bought one of those 3litre carbon fibre looking scooter bags that go on the handle bars to hold my batteries. I have a bunch of 5s lipos 10,000Mah and 5000mah that I run as 10s and two greenwork 40v packs. Any of these packs run the scooter and fit in the bag. Lipos are the best punch though. I decided to cut that brace off the back of the frame. I always hated the way the deck went over the rear tire. It also allowed a cleaner install of the zoom cable activated Hydraulic disk brake and 120mm disk. I made a wooden deck to replace the stock one. I also made a custom motor bracket out of angled metal to hold my 6384 e skate bl motor. This motor is much smaller than the stock one but way more powerful . It’s rated for 4000w but is only capable of 45kph before it smokes according to the specs. It needs a proper hall sensor connection to run properly with the controller. I tried all 36 possible combinations and found the best one. I put some Xiaomi fenders on and it’s looking pretty good I I am getting 40kph right now. It wheelies on start ups. So I could gear up the pinion and gain more speed. The controller has a handle bar mounted display that allows programming features which is a nice touch. It shows all kinds of info. It also allows you to turn on lights change speed settings on the fly and use a motor assist push feature. The current draw feature was helpful in finding the best hall sensor combination. The frame mods I made give the scooter a great look. And I painted it with some 350z metallic grey paint I had made to touch up my car. I said I wasn’t going to bother modding it. But I am glad it did. It cost lots of time and around 400 bucks to do. The scooter was bought for a $75 bottle of tequila. Would of been more if I already did not have batteries. Thanks for saving me the trouble of trying your mods first. That looked disappointing.

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  4 года назад +2

      Hi Jay,
      Thanks for watching and commenting. Your scooter sounds awesome! These are fun scooters to modify. I've changed the configuration a few times but didn't keep up with making videos about it. Now it has a 36v controller and is powered by three 36v 4.4ah hoverboard batteries. Everything fits in the deck. It will do 20 mph and I goes about 10 miles distance. I think I'm done modding it. I bought an EMove Cruiser with 52v 30ah battery that will do 25 mph and will go 50 MILES on a charge. It's a big, heavy scooter but it's the most fun toy I have ever bought! :)
      Have fun and ride safe my friend!
      -Duane

  • @jld3229
    @jld3229 6 лет назад +3

    I liked your mods, three extra minutes of run time is an improvement. Your install of the parts was great too!

  • @connorevs1315
    @connorevs1315 6 лет назад +6

    i was actually looking into getting one to ride to work this ir really cool thanks for the vid

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад +1

      Hey Connor,
      You should get one. It's a lot of fun. Can you take it inside and plug it in at work?

  • @amrasurvival5580
    @amrasurvival5580 6 лет назад +3

    Awesome short distance ride

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад +1

      Hi Mark,
      Yes it is. Lots of fun but not for 20 mile rides, for sure!

  • @BobNchannel
    @BobNchannel 6 лет назад +2

    Great work Duane, keep us posted on the performance , will ya please

  • @ArmsLovers
    @ArmsLovers 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you very much for the detailed instructions, your video was extremely useful to me. I have purchased and upgraded e300s scooter for my child, and he loves it! Thank again, and happy holidays!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad you found my videos useful.
      Merry Christmas!
      -Duane

  • @grahambate3384
    @grahambate3384 4 года назад +1

    Nice pic of the roos

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  4 года назад

      Cheers mate!

  • @Captain-Electro
    @Captain-Electro 6 лет назад +2

    MO POWER!!! Pimp my ride Duane!!!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад +1

      HAHAHAHAHAHA!! :D

  • @mayensigarofalo2133
    @mayensigarofalo2133 4 года назад +1

    Nice

  • @crashjump1849
    @crashjump1849 5 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing, looking forward to the next video for the results.

  • @mayensigarofalo2133
    @mayensigarofalo2133 4 года назад +1

    Nice video

  • @CSJiGSaW08
    @CSJiGSaW08 2 года назад +2

    Get Lifep04 batteries with Ctek Lithium charger. Let me know if you interested in the brand for the Lifep04 batteries they are like 2 lbs super light and have 3000 recharge cycles

  • @aaddaarraakk
    @aaddaarraakk 6 лет назад +2

    I LOVE INSTALL DAY!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад

      Hi J,
      LOL Me too! :D

  • @zuseable
    @zuseable 6 лет назад +1

    nice video thanks for the tip on handle grip alcohol trick

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад

      Thanks bro!

  • @Dashjiro93
    @Dashjiro93 2 года назад +1

    I liked mod amazing I used wild scooter parts speed controller

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching. I'm glad you're having fun with your scooter.
      Cheers, Duane

  • @docink6175
    @docink6175 6 лет назад +1

    that battery is wild

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад

      Yeah it is! HAHAHAHAHA!

    • @docink6175
      @docink6175 6 лет назад +1

      Im looking to add a house battery to my truck to run my inverter and for camping but a regular deep cycle battery takes up a lot of space, that battery would look cool mounted on the front of the roof rack but its 24v so I would need to wire in a step down converter... and the rusty gears keep grinding along....

  • @michaelanderson9792
    @michaelanderson9792 3 года назад

    I have a e300 on order from Amazon just got a flat on my bike so saving that inter tube for e300 upgrade

  • @ignacybanasiak9789
    @ignacybanasiak9789 4 года назад +1

    Nice video!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  4 года назад

      Thank you! :)

  • @t-akethatsotherchannel5792
    @t-akethatsotherchannel5792 5 лет назад +3

    Scooter E300S stolen in Berlin-Spandau ! Date: 19.06.2019 with some extras like seat, handyholder, Drinkbottleholder , Light, ext.

  • @deejay1569
    @deejay1569 5 лет назад +1

    The bottle battery is a great idea! Can you do a video of how you connected the new battery to the controller and to the motor ( including what connectors being used)

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Unfortunately the bottle battery was cheap quality and it quit working. It's in the recycle bin at Home Depot.

    • @CSJiGSaW08
      @CSJiGSaW08 2 года назад

      I bought a basket bin and put it In the front lower part of the stem facing foward. I have 4 LifeP04 batteries with Ctek charger and for a 1+2 battery on off switcher like marine style. I can selective switch which bank or both are on. The bottle batteries would be great but I prefer LifeP04 batteries

  • @mountainman.4478
    @mountainman.4478 6 лет назад

    Great video. Im impressed ! your really good at that mod . Lets see you ride it next video....please :) FYI its like fall around Seattle. Thanks Duane :)

  • @stewartgrant1963
    @stewartgrant1963 5 лет назад +3

    just wondering whether you should put something under that reinforcing strap. It was resting on the batteries so, as they've now gone, I'd be tempted to put a block of wood under it to provide support. V helpful video, thanks.

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Hey Stewart,
      That's a good idea. Thanks for watching and commenting.
      -Duane

  • @MiamiElectrix
    @MiamiElectrix 5 лет назад +4

    I hv all the parts im currently upgrading the batterys to the lion. And changing the sproket and the chain. This will mk the top speed about 22-25. Mph. Idk how long it lasts in miles prob 12-20.
    Bsipp

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Hey Barry,
      Thanks for watching and commenting. Have fun and be careful out there.
      Duane

  • @MissBELLE003
    @MissBELLE003 6 лет назад +2

    👩‍👩‍👧‍👧 Dude I’m not sure about this video but well said ! Have a happy Sunday!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks Dude! Err, Dudette! :D

    • @MissBELLE003
      @MissBELLE003 6 лет назад +2

      XDM50 lol do some girl things do a make over lol just kidding ! 💄👄🤡

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад +1

      BAHAHAHAHA!!! :D

  • @GanjaClaus
    @GanjaClaus 6 лет назад +4

    Kick asz video editing and engineer skills, Bro!
    Bet you also could turn a household vacuum cleaner into a jet engine :D

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад

      Hahahaha! Thanks bro! I appreciate you!

  • @dontdomeboo81
    @dontdomeboo81 6 лет назад +2

    Your cool man😊

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад

      Thanks Gurl Bye! So are you! :)

  • @mayensigarofalo2133
    @mayensigarofalo2133 4 года назад +1

    How many miles can it go

  • @grandtheftauto1233
    @grandtheftauto1233 4 года назад +1

    Cool scooter and nicely implemented battery mounting solution! Did you ever upgrade the motor itself? Thanks!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting!
      The battery in this video turned out to be defective so I upgraded (again) to 36 volt hoverboard batteries. The motor handles it just fine. I won't upgrade the motor till I have to.
      Duane

    • @grandtheftauto1233
      @grandtheftauto1233 4 года назад +1

      XDM50 that’s a bummer to hear that battery had gone bad. Did your hoverboard batteries sit within the stock location? Did you find those online? Thanks for the reply!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  4 года назад

      @@grandtheftauto1233 3 hoverboard batteries will fit under the deck without modification. That gives me almost 10 miles of distance and a top speed of 27 mph. The batteries were about $35 each. I also had to upgrade to 36 volt controller & throttle, about $60. Now I'm very happy with this scooter. :)

    • @angstfree2008
      @angstfree2008 4 года назад +1

      @@XDM50 Can you link to the batteries, controller and throttle you upgraded to? Also, would love to see the install.

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  4 года назад +1

      @@angstfree2008 This is the controller and throttle
      www.ebay.com/itm/Razor-E300-upgraded-throttle-controller-electrical-kit-36-Over-Volt-Kit/141459088618?hash=item20ef9e64ea:g:x0AAAOSwLa9UV6NK

  • @steventipton5130
    @steventipton5130 5 лет назад +2

    I well be buying one of these .. is it possible to have both batterys the stock batterys and the one you bought both hooked up at the same time and use a toggle switch to get more mileage out of it .. i have no idea but i had that thought when i watched your video .. very nice video and review

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад +1

      Hi Felix,
      Good choice. These are solid scooters that are easy to work on. To answer your question, yes, you could do that. The only drawback I see is that it's going to be heavy. But it would almost double your ride time so it's a good idea.

    • @ArmsLovers
      @ArmsLovers 5 лет назад +3

      Felix, I came with somewhat different concept. I have upgraded the scooter for my child by removing and trashing original batteries, in other words, I have very much followed the instructions from this video. My scooter has a sit (model e300s). I have purchased a spare battery, and attached to the back of the sit. The batteries are swappable, when primary runs out of power, I just swap it with the spare one. This way I have doubled the milage, ... but at the cost, since batteries are not cheap.

    • @steventipton5130
      @steventipton5130 5 лет назад +1

      Are the new batterys rechargeable ? What is the name of the new batterys you chose ? Can you post a picture of how you have the new batterys on the scooter so i can see it thank you

    • @ArmsLovers
      @ArmsLovers 5 лет назад +1

      Felix Mcturk, yes, batteries are rechargeable, charging time about 3 hours. You can find exact models and links to eBay store in description of this video. In relation to me posting pictures - I can make a video on my RUclips channel, but I do not think I can expose anything new. I just followed instructions from this video. I want to mention, if you are planning to use a sit, then you need to buy a scooter with the sit (model e300s), since regular one (model e300) does not have a sit. So, if you have a sit, then you can hook the spare battery to it, otherwise you have no spots on the scooter to attach spare battery (other than carting spare battery in your backpack). Finally, if you are upgrading scooter for the child, then you are fine, you only need to replace controller, throttle and battery. However for the adult you may consider also replacing the motor. You can buy the updated motor from the same maker who makes controllers (check links in the description), and you should get the throttle with digital screen that displays remaining voltage. Good luck!

    • @steventipton5130
      @steventipton5130 5 лет назад

      @@ArmsLovers thank you

  • @CaseVault
    @CaseVault 6 лет назад +3

    Could you please give me a link to it
    Btw Great video very nice!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад

      Thanks bro! I just added links in the video description. Have fun!
      -Duane

    • @CaseVault
      @CaseVault 6 лет назад +1

      XDM50 thanks!

  • @Domduro
    @Domduro 5 лет назад +1

    Good job!!! But the engine is the same as original? Not burn It?

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Pennino Cavallotti,
      Yes, same original motor. No problems yet.
      -Duane

  • @Poepad
    @Poepad 5 лет назад +1

    if you did not want to affect the paint why use STICKY tape, just use an old innerturbe. Replacing with lith is far easier. TIP: Use voice over instead of music, double your view time.

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Hey Kevin,
      Thanks for the tips.
      Duane

  • @TakiFishMan
    @TakiFishMan 3 года назад +2

    Will that new speed controller fit without replacing the original battery’s?

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  3 года назад

      Yes, it's for 24 volts. Will work fine with stock SLA batteries.

    • @TakiFishMan
      @TakiFishMan 3 года назад +1

      @@XDM50 But will it fit inside of the battery holder still because controller is bigger than the stock one

    • @TakiFishMan
      @TakiFishMan 3 года назад +1

      @@XDM50 ?

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  3 года назад

      @@TakiFishMan Yes, it fits inside.

    • @TakiFishMan
      @TakiFishMan 3 года назад +1

      @@XDM50 oh ok thanks you

  • @t-akethatsotherchannel5792
    @t-akethatsotherchannel5792 5 лет назад +1

    Oh sb had a problem: I needed the data sheet of paper of data for the ensurance. i lost it. (allowness for using it) . for the E300S. I dont use it on the street but they wanted it. Old problem.

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Sorry to hear that. Insurance is not required on these scooters where I live.

    • @t-akethatsotherchannel5792
      @t-akethatsotherchannel5792 5 лет назад

      @@XDM50 this is germany . perhaps also not. Shitbull!

  • @larrystamp9590
    @larrystamp9590 3 года назад +1

    why not just keep the old batteries in there place make a disconnect and use them as backup

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  3 года назад

      That is one option.

  • @MiamiElectrix
    @MiamiElectrix 5 лет назад +1

    If u still hv your 12volt batterys and they still work i wld buy them from u im doing a 48volt build. And need some cheap batterys i hv one now and need 3.
    Thabks
    Barry s

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Hi Barry,
      I'm not sure which way I'm going to go with this scooter. Right now it has the original 12 volt batteries in it. They actually gave me longer run time than the 24 volt lithium bottle battery. I may switch to 36 volt or I may sell the whole thing and buy something different. Just haven't made up my mind.

  • @wc6740
    @wc6740 2 года назад +1

    I have this scooter is it difficult to replace battery. How many extra miles can you get using lithium battery?thanks

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  2 года назад +1

      The key to distance is AH or Amp Hours. The E300 comes with 7 or 8 AH lead acid batteries. If you replace them with 7 or 8 AH Lithium your distance will stay the same. If you are not too heavy you should get about 1 mile per AH. If you want more distance you need more AH. The most popular way to do this is to convert the scooter to 36v (with new controller and throttle), then add hoverboard batteries. Hoverboard batteries are 4.4 AH each and you can fit 3 of them under the deck, giving you 13.2 AH, which should get you close to 12 miles. Here is a Facebook group of people modding these Razor scooters. Check out the "Files" section for basic how-to. Feel free to ask questions. facebook.com/groups/1767120973337718
      Peace, Duane

    • @wc6740
      @wc6740 2 года назад +1

      @@XDM50 thanks duane

  • @EleonoraAr
    @EleonoraAr 5 лет назад +1

    Hello. The scooters comes with two 12v batteries. I don't understand why you change it for a 24v Battery. I am sorry if this is a stupid question but I am a beginner. Thanks in advance

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Hi, thanks for watching and commenting. I switched to a 24v lithium battery because it's lighter and will last for about 5 years with regular use. The 12 volt lead acid batteries are heavier and will only last about a year (maybe 2 years if you're lucky). It would actually be smarter to wait till the old batteries need replaced before you switch to lithium.

    • @EleonoraAr
      @EleonoraAr 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks @@XDM50 for your fast answer. So, if I change only the throttle & controller, will I get more speed? Thanks again!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      It will be a little bit faster, like 2-3 miles per hour faster. What you will notice most is faster take-offs and it won't struggle quite so much on small hills. To get the maximum amount of ride time, I walk mine up any significant hills. Good luck my friend!
      -Duane

  • @TakiFishMan
    @TakiFishMan 3 года назад +2

    How much does the battery cost?

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  3 года назад

      I think I paid $160 for this battery. I eventually replaced this new battery and the stock batteries with 3 hoverboard batteries. That's what I'm using now.

    • @TakiFishMan
      @TakiFishMan 3 года назад

      @@XDM50 oh ok thank you so much

  • @steventipton5130
    @steventipton5130 5 лет назад +1

    Nicse bat leth on the wall

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Thanks Felix!

  • @johnandreas3727
    @johnandreas3727 4 года назад +1

    How fast should your scooter go now?

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  4 года назад

      Hi John,
      With these mods it will still only do 15 mph. If you want more speed, you need to increase voltage (36v batteries).
      Duane

  • @PREPFORIT
    @PREPFORIT 6 лет назад +1

    I Was up North Fishing.
    catchin up On You tube vids
    - OMFG Duane that Does NOT say " High Performance "
    it says " HYPERDRIVE " !!!! : Do NOT end up on the Moon !

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  6 лет назад

      Hahahahahaha!!! HYPERDRIVE!!! That would be awesome! :D

  • @michaelanderson9792
    @michaelanderson9792 3 года назад +1

    I got a China controller box it’s in Chinese and none of the connections match real pain

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  3 года назад

      Search RUclips for how to match the wires. I saw a video a long time ago that did a great job of identifying each wire on the China controllers. I would share a link but now I can't find it. Something like... How to hook up ebike controller... Or something like that. Good luck bro!

  • @hugh2882
    @hugh2882 5 лет назад +1

    Have the batteries blown up since? Actual question

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      They haven't blown up but the run time has gone way down.

  • @shanda2600
    @shanda2600 4 года назад +1

    Can this modification be used on the E 200 scooter? Thanks!

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  4 года назад +1

      Yes, should work the same on E200.

    • @shanda2600
      @shanda2600 4 года назад

      XDM50 thank you !!

  • @rockcatgamer9410
    @rockcatgamer9410 5 лет назад +2

    can you do this on mine!

  • @mykko3262
    @mykko3262 3 года назад +1

    Does it work with the razor e325

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  3 года назад +1

      Yes, but I learned there are better ways to upgrade these scooters. If you change the controller out with a 36v controller and replace the batteries under the deck with 3x 36v hoverboard batteries, you will get about 20mph and about 10-12 miles of distance. Search RUclips and also Facebook groups like facebook.com/groups/1767120973337718

  • @1hrplugzzz
    @1hrplugzzz 5 лет назад +1

    Do you have to use the bottle battery

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      Hi CJ Reece,
      I eventually put the SLA batteries back inside the deck so I had double the battery power, double the amps, and almost double the distance. But that made the scooter very heavy. -Duane

    • @1hrplugzzz
      @1hrplugzzz 5 лет назад +1

      Can you email me a video showing how to put the SLA batteries back in and plug them into the controller and how to plug the charger port in the controller to charge the SLA batteries
      Email:cjreece76@gmail.com

    • @1hrplugzzz
      @1hrplugzzz 5 лет назад +1

      I will be very happy if you do so

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      I would, but now I have it back to stock and I'm trying to sell it.

    • @1hrplugzzz
      @1hrplugzzz 5 лет назад +1

      Can you explain to me how you did it

  • @MrAnadad
    @MrAnadad 5 лет назад +1

    is it possible to upgrade from 200w to 3500w controller please let me know. thanks

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      I don't know, sorry.

    • @johnrwygle
      @johnrwygle 5 лет назад

      Yes, but your motor could not handle it. So it needs replacing with a 3kv motor. Huge they are.
      And 3500w will be 48v controller pushing a bunch of batteries. That would be a 14s battery pack. Quite large.

  • @genya3162
    @genya3162 5 лет назад +1

    Whats the top speed?

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      15 mph @ 24 volts. You can get more speed if you run it at 36 volts, but the motor will eventually die.

    • @genya3162
      @genya3162 5 лет назад +1

      @@XDM50 I mean with the one you installed

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  5 лет назад

      @@genya3162 Still 15 mph because it's still 24 volts.

    • @genya3162
      @genya3162 5 лет назад

      XDM50 so that’s the battery in the description?

    • @genya3162
      @genya3162 5 лет назад

      XDM50 I mean the speed controller

  • @vamphigherextreme4248
    @vamphigherextreme4248 3 года назад

    Fast scooters is a scam

    • @XDM50
      @XDM50  3 года назад

      Not a scam. Of course you can get throttles and controllers cheaper if you shop around and if you want to try and figure out what connects to where. But with the kits from Fast Scooters, it's all plug and play. There is no guess work. I'm happy to pay extra for that. They have sold hundreds of kits so they are doing something right.

    • @vamphigherextreme4248
      @vamphigherextreme4248 3 года назад +1

      @@XDM50 I've just found that you can get better preprocess and better deals elsewhere if you know what you are looking for. Problem is, very few out there will honestly consult with you too determine what that is.

    • @vamphigherextreme4248
      @vamphigherextreme4248 3 года назад +1

      @@XDM50 that's the problem. It would be very simple to just tell someone what connects to what and why but most companies either won't tell you that out don't know themselves so they try to just sell you two or three things instead

    • @vamphigherextreme4248
      @vamphigherextreme4248 3 года назад +3

      After getting nowhere with any of the dealers and being told my scooter was a list cause, what I wound up doing is spending about six weeks learning everything I could about the things, until I was confident enough to fix it myself. The whole thing started over the throttle, 3 wires,5 wires, 7 wires etc. I was told everything from"they don't make those anymore" to "you have to but the throttle and controller together as a set" but what I found out was they're all full of shit it don't know what they're talking about because I could wire up just about anything as a throttle. In fact, I do have a peddle on the deck as a secondary throttle now. I've used three or four different controllers and changed components half a dozen times and nothing I was told was ever true. It's not rocket science but many dealers sure would have you believe it is. My 17 mph scooter that was supposedly a lost cause just ripped 40mph the other day during testing of the boost module I'm working on. Your overvolt idea is the right one but what I would do, is I were you, is get a good controller, something that has at least 12 mosfets in it that can handle varying voltages above and beyond the 36v, at least up to 48v and 30 amps. Them get yourself a second battery to match the one you have in voltage poor wait till it's time to buy another battery and get two instead. As soon as you connect two batteries in parallel and overvolt by at least 12-20 volts over what the motor rates at, you will be blown away. I run 56v through a Currie 1000watt 36v rated motor and it loves it. The extra amps that flow because of the second battery give it so much not torque is unreal. And the 20 extra volts, with a few mods, room it from 17-19mph, to 37-40mph, with five times the range.