razor e300 modified scooter 7000w vesc outrunner
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- Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2016
- This is my razor scooter i have modifed, I am not sure about the battery backpack, but it is essential for a "commuter scooter" because you carnt charge or use freezing lipo's, and its nice to know that i am not leaving £400 worth of batteries outside.
"The capacitors are in Parallel, not series Dam It."
For the 80-100 brushless outrunner motor 130kv alienpowersystem.com
For the vesc www.enertionboards.com/.
Everthing else is from ebay
UPDATE : The switch was finally upgraded to 150a, and the batterys and bms are all sealed in the scooter now i have done hundreds of miles and all is fantastic. All charged from a single xt 90 connector.
Love that big outrunner! Makes me want to put something bigger on my E300 project and I haven't even finished the frame yet!
Did a 24V based mod for the UberScoot 300 (ES04) for my teenagers. Do NOT want a scooter that goes over 25 kmph on the roads, bicycle paths, or sidewalks as it requires licensing, registration and insurance beyond that speed in CH. I upgraded the motor to a 350W/24V unit with same mounting bracket (off of eBay/Ali). A 24V / 12000 MAh Li-ion based battery off of AliE (with name brand cells from Samsung or LG, from LiitoKala store), and an upgraded 24V controller that will handle up to 500W. This will manage the torque necessary to navigate hills while keeping speed muted. Excellent range with this unit.
Would love to see a full step by step breakdown of how to build it. Looks dangerously fun
Thats badass, my 1600w / 48v motor, scooter makes about 48km/h top speed but the battery dies away pretty fast, wanted to upgrade to lithium batteries for lower recharge time and longer drive.
What about using lipo?
@@TheSquirrelmaster10f the "li" in lipo MEANS lithium...
Amazing build! I'm actually in the process of finishing mine up now. Could I ask what you wrapped the throttle/brake cables with? Many thanks
You've got $500 in batteries from allian. $250 ESC from allian, $200 motor from allien. You've got alt least $1500-$2000 into that scoot
electromechanical stuff yeah a scoots only as good as the batteries inside it
Scooter pioneers 🛴
great build! Will you expand the handlebars ? like have BMX or Mountain Bike handlebars in the future? For more stability?
Would you be able to build another one/make a tutorial video please?
There is more info and pictures in my other videos, its an advanced build. i have tried to do build videos before but its very hard.
Looks fast!
love the build look out for me around fenton on mine, not as crazy as yours though. cheap 6374 off ebay and a flipsky vesc running 12s 30ah li-on's. Had a nightmare finding a cog for the 6374 with its 10mm shaft so still not ridden it yet, should be here next week, but im upgrading soon now ive seen this lol. great water cooling idea for the vesc, ive mounted mine on the outside for cooling and so i caould fill the tray with 18650's, just need to finish designing a 3d printed cover for it. Just finished the kids e100 with a 4130 and a flipsky vesc, they are real light weight and it flys, just needs a spray job and some grip tape. Got a few brushless projects on the go, another e100 and e300 mountain board and a mini moto quad. I need some alien power system motors
im flying around fenton all the time. 30ah is epic we will have to go down the canal sometime up to the plume of feathers and back, sounds like you know your stuff, i fancy doing a 16s mini quad it would be so easy compared to squeezing everything in to a tiny scooter, regards the cog did you see my other video i just ground the shaft down and used the original razor cog, id love to see your scooters.
I got a few pics a a little vid on my instgram instagram.com/p/BoJ49eVFXK3/?
yh i saw your vid and thought about grinding the shaft but have only got a dremmel available. Defo would be cool to do a cannal ride really nice pubs down the cannal too lol. Funny seeing you in tower hill being a londoner living in stoke and brought back memories of my petrol goped days flying around there before any laws. 16s mini quad would be crazy, told my son his pit bike is next haha
g2tana check your Insta
love the build! thanks for sharing. do you have a build log anywhere on any forums? I'm curious to know how you adapted the pinion to the motor shaft. did you have a machine shop turn it on a lathe?
ruclips.net/video/DcXpSGf9HCg/видео.html I ran the motor and used an angle grinder, it is a hammer on fit and fits perfectly.
Hi Dickie that's a very clean build. Where do you buy that voltmeter on the grip?
ebay, thanks,
How do you install a front disk brake? What kind of brakes is this? Have you any ebay/ali/amazon reference? I'm really interested!
All the info is in the comments. Good luck
What does the handlebar clamp provide? Also is that motor bolt on or did you have to do any fabricating? Thanks
Have you done a video of how you did all this
Fkn awesome.
I. Buying one in the Morning.
No shit
Looks like SO much fun.
I live an Hour an a bit south of the City and there's a Track that takes me straight there.
I'm not gonna sleep tonight,haha
That track sounds perfect. We need some tracks around here, they could use the abandoned railway lines.
@@dickiewithers9564
Forgot to mention Im in Adelaide, Australia 🤘👍
@@scottdieselcameron8639 good call, I did wonder. 👌
nice build. You rather have 3108W @ 12S though, which is more than you would ever want on that scooter. The 7kW are generated at 18S.
Daniel K. Thanks Dan. Yes good call, my skills are no where near ready for 18s. I was pushing my mates scooter when his battery died and their was no difference in power at all I could push him with the same speed and no Noticeable resistance, it could easily do 50mph but it’s an animal as it, I’ve had loads of quads and motorcross bikes, trust me this thing is well over powered.
The title made me laugh, this is so stupid and so good
That was bad ass ... How much did all this cost you to modify ? Good video btw !👍🏽
Lord Shockwav it cost about£700 to modify. Worth every penny.
awesome speed
What do i need to mk the scooter like yours? How much will it cost me.
Any idea what range you are getting? Many miles
Applause on your project. Just curious as to the distance/miles you can get with that setup. I"m thinking about doing 1000 watt motor with 48V 18A Lithium ion Battery. What would be your best guess on miles for my setup? Thanks.
About 20 miles. 30 if you take it steady
i am not clear. what all have you done. I too have a razor300
Sounds like you have plenty of power for a sprocket change for more speed, not like you need it though.
Kinda what I was thinking
Lmao I am running my e300 off a 48v relay and a on and off switch for throttle with 4 lead acid batterys, it's fun
DeiJayJay i bet it is🙋
Hi I want to transform my scooter same like yours . But I don't know how to do it . So if u could help me . With the process it would be great
Beautiful!! Ask you something about the two wheels where can I get it from, please? 🙏
Karl Saunders thanks Karl, The front wheel is a maf scooter wheel from eBay and the back wheel is standard.
@@dickiewithers9564 welcome 😁 nice, so is that both 9" or 10" tyres? Can you send me the link from ebay please?
how fast are you going? thanks
How many volts is your battery pack for the 7000w motor?
12s 50.4volts max.
fark me that's quick as lightning
outie555 it’s quick it still surprises me up hills, it’s just as fast uphill as it is down hill.
I am trying to so this! Where did you get the batyerys , speed controller and the motor?
TheSquirrelmaster10f the battery’s from eBay. The speed controller from enertion , and the motors alien power systems.
Now that is a modification. Pretty awesome I was given one of these recently and am interested in totally restoring and modifying it as well. Do you have a parts listing and video step by step on how to do this? Great job!
They are great fun. Nice and easy to work on. I carnt do a how to it would take so much work. But there is lots of info on my videos and comments. Thanks
lots of speed cool
Thanks Liviu.
how many kilometers catches 55 km?
Dude, ok I now have a much much faster e300 I need better brakes or a parachute!! Where can I order some disc brakes and mounts like your pretty please. Safe riding brother
Hi dickie, very nice job ! What kind of charger do you use to charge your battery pack safely? I would like to charge mine without remove it from the scooter and by keeping the lipos in series, do you think it is possible safely? Thanks by advance.
I use 2 x 6s bms. One for each lipo. So I charge with an xt 90 plug. No disassembly required. I have a adjustable power supply set to 50.2v. The batteries stay perfectly balanced.
Sounds good thanks for reply! But how your power supply knows when to stop the charge when the battery are fully charged?
DigitalBaloo the bms cuts the power to each cell at 4.25v then balances down to 4.2v so the bms does all the clever stuff. All bms cut the power when a cell is over 4.25v you can test a cheap bms power bank. My high quality meanwell power supply is capable of adjustable voltage and current.
Thanks a lot for your replies ! Very helpful.
Seems very powerful. How does the capacitors helped the performance? are they connected in In parallel? Do they give more power to the motor? Why were the batteries not under the deck? The chain-driven wheel does not seem to be using a freewheel. Would one improve the efficiency? Thank you for this video.
Yes the capacitors are connected in parallel, they do give more power to the motor and soak up voltage coming back from the motor, it still has the free wheel but i may remove it to try regenerative breaking, and the batteries are not under the deck because they dont fit, but now i have my bms working and i can charge using only the xt90 connector i will try and squeeze it all under the deck,
Dickie Withers Oh, i see, when braking, power is cut off from motor and the momentum of the moving motor generates electricity into the capacitors which charges the batteries. Wow, does the capacitors also give you a boost when moving off? I don think so since its one directional as in it charges the batteries only and current from the batteries are not able to go thru the capacitors in a output direction and blocked by a diode?
capacitors work like a battery only they work much faster, they deliver and recieve huge amounts of current very quickly.
How did you fit the disc brake to the front wheel??
You just buy the wheel with the disc brake allready fitted from eBay
@@dickiewithers9564 how did you attach the caliper to the forks??
Can you explain about the front disk brake installation ?
I bought a wheel that came with a disc on from eBay then I made a bracket using an angle grinder.
Can i used a brushless controller on my 1000watt brushed scooter motor.
Chris. If you are using a brushed motor then you need a brushed controller
Hi Dickie, is your disc comes with your Clarks disc brakes set, or is it another brand of disc ? I can't find 3 holes disc in Clarks brand....
the disk came with the wheel "maf wheel". lots of mini moto stuf is 3 pin
Ok so the clarks brake system can handle different disc . thanks for reply.
Can’t find it any more is it a UK company Mabey I need a vpn can’t find the website in the states
I would Like to know how you put that disc brake on that front wheel and where can I get the mount for the caliper
The wheel and disc came together from eBay “maf scooter wheel” and I made the mount using the battery strap.
Dickie Withers awesome thanks Dickie and the water cooled vesc?
Hi Dickie,
I have been following your video blogs with great interest as I'm planning to modify my Razor E200.
I've been sourcing and compiling a list of parts, suplliers as well as hours spent surfing the web for the specification of all the components (motors, brakes, batteries etc) checking thier compatability, before hand to make sure they'll all work/ fit before starting my hack.
It would be helpful if you could enlighten me, and your ever increasing fanbase of the following kindly please.................
1) You are using a 140mm disc on the front wheel. What type of caliper kit did you fit? Was this supplied in a kit, i.e. caliper and disc together? If so what type? I have followed your previous web-link, only shows 160mm discs, with two options (front & rear I.S) or (front P.M. rear I.S.) what does the P.M and I.S stand for?
2) The front wheel (complete with disc) Is this a 9inch wheel? Is the tyre size 200x50 (I suspect not)? I observed that the RIM was a cast moulding, which I assume is a split rim type like the rear one on my E200. What is the axle width, and wheel diameter on your front RIM? I am trying to deteremine if the cast type (Used on an UBER ES04) front wheel wil physically fit the front fork assembly of my Razor E200.
Many thanks for your answers, I know you are a busy chap, with all that riding, and burning up of multimeters, while testing batteries etc....lol... :-)
Really enjoying your videos pal,...
Dub
hi and welcome, 1, yes the 160mm disc kit allso fits to 140mm discs it just so happens the wheel came with a 140mm disc, i.s and p.m are two standard mounts that come with a small conversion bracket, they wont fit directly to our scooters so not to worry. 2, the front rim is 4 inch diameter and approx 3 inch deep with a 3.00-4 tyre, its a pretty standard scooter wheel from a maf scooter but the uber may be similar, i used my origanal axle and just cut the spacers down to suit the wheel. yes it looks like a split rim. i think the e200 has smaller dimensions like my rx200 and you may have to change the front forks. thanks for your interest.
Hi Dickie,
Ive been looking into ESC's to control the Alien C80100 motor. I know this motor is spec'd at 200A so ideally I would need an ESC capable of these burst currents upto this value. I'm trying to understand why you opted for the VESC controller as opposed to a standard 200A ESC?
Also wanted you advice if you think this ESC (200A Brushless Water Cooling Speed Controller ESC with 5V/5A SBEC for RC Boat) as listed reently on Ebay; would be upto the job at all?
I was thinking of modifying a Servo tester to work with the Hall effect throtttle for control signal into this ESC. What do you think?
Hopefully I get a video up soon as soon as Ive ordered all the parts I need to start my build.
Thanks for your replies..
Dub
Dub Musiclover I have tried that and the vesc does so much more than an ordanairy esc. The standard esc was fast but the take of was awful, you can adjust 100s of settings on a vesc on your laptop. The vesc was designed for electric skateboards because esc were so rubbish.
Thanks for info Dickie,
I've ordered a cheap 800W motor controller. I'm going to run it with the standard 24v 200W motor some dual 5S 18.5V LIPOs (yet to be ordered) and monitor what the max speed (MPH /KPH) achived via a cycle computer which I plan to fit to the handlebars, and magnet sensor on the front rim wheel.
I dont really mind if this motor burns out, as its a progresive build. Try it and see what fails then replace and upgrade / over-engineered.
I think when this motor fails (and it will,.... ooh yes lol..) I'll then look into replacing the motor. but until then.....Happy motor burning...lol...
:-)
Hello Dickie,
Im planning on using 4 packs of 5s (18v) Lipos to provide a total power bank of 36v. I've now fitted and tested the new variable throttle with the 36v (800w) motor controller, it all worked fine under no load.
What I am trying to understand how you split charge your 12s packs, from one XT90 charge port on your scooter Dickie?
I'm planning on using two 5s 18v packs connected in series(pack A) to give 36v, and the other two 5s packs (Pack B) the same. I then plan to double these packs up (pack A) and (Pack B) in paralell to increase the run time in Amp hours.
I am trying to understand how you deal with the balance connectors for each pack Dickie?
Could you tell me a little more about how you fitted yours into the scooter battery compartment (what was previously your backpack) and what additional kit you connected to the packs please?
I have purchased AIRSOFT-LIPO-voltage-Meter, as you have. did you have this permanently connceted to the balance lead while charging thru the XT90 port Dickie?
Much thanks
Dub
Dub Musiclover ok
Dub welcome, if you leave a hobby type cell balancer on a large lipo pack it won’t have the capacity to balance the pack and it will in practice unbalance the pack. So you only use them rarely to check everything is working right. So I used 1 bms for each lipo pack. So you need x4 5s bms. Then you break the negative and connect each lipo negative to their bms.The balance connectors just plug in and you put an elastic band around the bms and each pack.
Then you use a good quality power supply. And check that it doesn’t get to hot and monitor the voltage while charging from empty and ensure that the voltage stays below in your case 42v (41.98) You could use any charger and let the bms disconnect the battery negative when the voltages are high or low but I use the quality charger route and adjust it .2v below fully charged for safety. Get back to me if I haven’t explained enough.
Ps in practice my pack is better balanced by the bms than any other method including hobby chargers,
Hi Dickie,
I've ordered a 10s BMS to balance two 5S 18v packs which I connected in series (pack A). I'm hoping this will solve my problem.
Much thatnks for your advice and tips.
Ive recorded a small video of my Razor E200 Hack. I'll post the link to the video on here in a seperate thread.
Dub
Hello , What motor would you recommend for hill climbing and a lot of torque for a heavier person.
alienpowersystem.com/shop/brushless-motors/c80100-sensored-outrunner-brushless-motor-80kv-6000w/
What is the highest power 24v engine you could use without having to change the speed controller?
a high power motor is not required at 24v unless you are moving heavy weights, it is easier to change the speed controller than the motor, but you can fit a 350w 24v motor in by cutting of the stand and doing some angle grinding, a high power motor is required to reduce heat, if you require higher speeds you need to increase voltage or gearing . then you will burn out the standard motor, i have a razor i have modified using this 350w motor ebay 390846126308 and 36v batteries and it is a great upgrade,
This is what I've done but I've got a 16s 6p, 67.2v lipo battery pack on it. 11t front, 80t rear gives me 25mph down my street and 20mph up it (slight gradient). Maybe the motor will go pop but as at £30 a pop for the motor, it's worth a punt
What tires are those?
Do you have a build video for fitting the motor etc would be awesome.
Timsalsanights aka The Caffeine Racer
ruclips.net/video/DcXpSGf9HCg/видео.html
Thank you very clear. What's the cost ball park to complete his type of conversion? I bet the battery and charger are a fair chunk of the cost
Timsalsanights aka The Caffeine Racer £800 including the scooter. My batteries were £400
@@dickiewithers9564 will be building my battery 🔋 so I hope to reduce cost a little there, might not need the range you have. got the scooter stock it's painfully slow. Out runner seems like a far lighter option for this. Have u built many?
Timsalsanights aka The Caffeine Racer I’ve only built one out runner. And it never gave me a single problem. It’s far faster than of the shelf scooters with 72v
Great mod, how fast does it go now??? where did you get all the parts any chance of letting me know so I can do the same. I have bought new handle bars for it as the original are too narrow. Cheers ocean from Australia 🇦🇺
Dickie Withers hey dickie thanks mate do you remember exactly what parts I need etc that would be awesome cheers ocean
alienpowersystem.com for the motor, the vesc is from www.enertionboards.com/. everthing else is from ebay, I will have to do a speed test, i think its above 35mph
Any vesc from Enertion and 80-100 brushless outrunner motor 130kv from Alien
What parts do i need to mk my 300 like yours...im not that technical so i prob hv to tk it to somrone to do most of the installs. But i want mine as fast and smooth as yours. Can u help me please
BSipp
you need a 12s battery 48v , a 80-100 outrunner motor, and a vesc speed controller. But if your not technical just buy a scooter it will be far cheaper.
it would cost about £600-£800 in parts and about 38 hours labour or about £760 in labour so total about £1400. you can get a good chinese scooter for that money
Where did you get the front disc wheel and break kit?
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clarks-M2-Hydraulic-Disc-Brake-set-Front-Rear-all-rotor-sizes-and-mount-option/112098957265?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49895%26meid%3D9ec6bc8d9180465cb54c904add5070b5%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D252970941515%26itm%3D112098957265&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
the wheel and disc www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Front-Wheel-complete-Electric-E-scooter-Tyre-Tube-Brake-disc-Uber-Es04/263234233044?hash=item3d49fba2d4:g:~mAAAOSwVC1ZzM4n
I've been recently trying to fit one of these hydraulic calipers to Dickies recommended Uber scoot ES04 type front wheel (as in link above). I've noticed that the spacing between brake disc and tyre, on this wheel is extremely tight (about 8mm or so) therefore I cannot get the caliper to fit. I wondered if anyone else had a similar issue trying to fit hydraulic brakes to their scooter?
How fast is it going now?
33mph on the flat now buddy
Can we get an update on how it's held up so far?
theres a few changes, you can see in my recent videos, mainly a 150amp switch to replace the standard switch, and a custom battery box so i can fit everthing under the scooter. all works well, definately still the best razor scooter in the world.
Ok I saw your latest update, that is a solid setup. I'm having issues finding info on Lipo bms, any suggestions?
i used 1x 6s bms on each battery, www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6s-24v-Li-ion-Lithium-Cell-60A-18650-Battery-Protection-BMS-PCM-Board-w-Balance/182247900322?epid=1990288180&hash=item2a6ed244a2:g:0E0AAOSw9NdXtZWQ
Damn that baby flies! LOL! ( =
Will this work for the es 200 as well??
It sure will. But the e300 is better ;)
Hey bud I have modded my e 300. I was looking to add a front disk but it look super tight. I gotta ask how you did it. I was thinking I would start by finding another rear wheel hub.
Jay Racz I bought a wheel with a disc on allready from a MAF scooter. It was pretty straight forward. Have a look on eBay
Jay Racz have you joined the razor group on Facebook? Loads of pics on there
Dickie Withers never been a facebook or social media guy. Just watch RUclips and comment. Or write product reviews. I will look into that hub. I would like a little more braking power. I skid to stops right now.
Jay Racz there is definitely more stopping and less skidding with a front brake .
how necessary do you find the watercooling to be? was it DIY?
watercooling is necessary with the vesc and a 80-100 motor, its diy, using cpu parts from ebay
Dickie Withers thank you for the reply. I've never done a water cool system before. is it powered? if you have any links to crucial parts it's much appreciated! sorry to bother so much. tried to pm you through you tube. if you ever go on modifiedelectricscooters.com I'm Evol. started my build log called biggie 300 thanks to you!
yes i am using a screen wash pump and a hv adjustable volatge regulator, both are cheap and very compact. That way i can slow the pump right down, you can get some nice cpu water pumps on ebay also 12v. I looked at your build and i like those tyres and the biggie grip tape, keep up the good work
Dickie Withers thank you! I couldn't pass up that grip tape :) I have all my parts ordered, vesc, motor, lipos...my build will look very familiar. do you think the vesc could survive with the heatsink in the airflow? thinking of cutting the battery box and flush mounting it so the heatsink is in the airflow. thank you for all your patience!
one last thing...why the capacitors?
Dude you sad nice ,?? I say outta of this world. was awesome. I enjoyed the ride kkkkk
Hey Dickie, question, what motor are you running?
alienpowersystem.com/shop/brushless-motors/c80100-sensored-outrunner-brushless-motor-130kv-7000w/ That one?
alienpowersystem.com/shop/brushless-motors/c80100-outrunner-brushless-motor-130kv-7000w/ or that one?
Judging by the look it'll be the first one? Sorry I have no idea and I'm somehow trying to figure out what parts I'll need...
yes, but mine is not sensored.
Do you have a link to where you bought the hall throttle.
Crazy Experiments m.ebay.co.uk/itm/22mm-7-8-Twist-Throttle-Grip-Handlebar-Voltage-Display-for-EBike-Scooter-MA1617/153076428579?epid=19020852789&hash=item23a410ef23:g:Js4AAOSw1NJbMnm1
Dickie Withers Thanks
Please give me the how to, and what to buy!!
i carnt its too complicated, sorry,
hello friend, what is the function of the capacitors, gives more power? and what is its value?
capacitors store electricity they work quicker than a battery and are able to smooth out power curves to prevent voltage spikes and dips that will damage your esc.
thanks, of how many microfarads and volt are, they connect with the battery??
4700 microfarads 71volt
Cool
What is your sprocket set up
9-40 was 29mph and 12-40 was 33mph
Can you order that front tire with disk break
Yes something like. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Front-Wheel-complete-4-10-3-50-4-angled-valve-disc-X1000-36-volt-and-X2T/392858191846?hash=item5b782c47e6:g:~WoAAOSwP4NfyBSr
Hey mate do you have a link for the battery’s having a hard time thinking of a solution aha and their not making the Vesc anymore they’ve replaced it with a Focbox curious how you would go about the water cooling on the plus side my motors on its way
jaryd erricker search for 6s 16000 lipo or multi rotor lipo for the battery’s and the focbox looks ok just stick the water cooling block to the aluminium case with some thermal paste. My Vesc has been brilliant but with out the pump running it goes into limp mode. Keep me posted
Dickie Withers awesome cheers mate appreciate the help and with the discharge c rating should I be aiming higher around the 65c or is something lower okay
jaryd erricker
Wow 65c. You should aim for about 15c ( 240amps) to reduce voltage drop under load. Don’t go less than 10c it would seriously limit the power and life of your battery’s. I am going to google 65c 16000mah lipo, but I think they won’t exist as they would be bombs at 1040amps. What kind of cables would you need for that. Wow
Dickie Withers
Had a look and they’ve discontinued the 16000 15c graphene :( only a 12000 otherwise there’s a 16000 10c but should work one more question I’ve got everything sorted motors on way focbox cooling 150amp switch etc just how did you go about charging in through a single xt90 is that only possible with a bms for each battery or is there another way round it seems a pain in the ass having to pull the battery’s out each time to charge
Bms is probably the most reliable way, i have 1x 6s bms on each battery, my cells are perfectly balanced, and no dissasembly is required, if you could find a 12s lipo charger (very rare) you could use a dvi connector,
What’s the range like
Akmak amazing at 15mph probably about 40miles. And less than half that at full speed.
What size disc brakes are those?
140mm
Thank You
Dickie Withers where did you purchase the disc brake assembly from?
Dickie Withers aren't the front disc 160mm normally . Does it matter if its 160 or 140mm whats the difference ?
Wtf i need this in my life
Top speed? 🤔
So powerfull😃
With the way ⛽️ setup I'll pay you to make me one lol
How did you configure your VESC to work with the twist throttle?
The red wire goes to 3v, the black wire ground , the green wire goes to adc. Then you go to app configuration and set up adc to 3v. Make sure there is no load on the motor while your setting your dead band ect
Thanks. What is your dead band setting? My ADC is registering 80 percent
and the ADC2 25 is at percent. How can I change ADC from 80 percent to 100?
adjust the maximum voltage to 2.54. and tweak from there. my dead band is 0 but your throttle may not be so sensitive.
I finally took my scooter out for a test ride and noticed that it looses speed after only 200 meters. I have a 245kv motor (2700w) and three 5200mah lipos in series. I checked the real time data and the mosfets were about 45 deg C with (80/100 limits). What app and motor settings would you recommend for my current setup?
2 problems the kv of the motor is to high, You need a 8:1 reduction on your gears to run that motor on the vesc, and you will have volt drop on your lipos, your temps are fine at the moment, you can lower the "battery cut of voltage" ,
so you need 1, lower kv motor 2, bigger rear sprocket, 3,smaller wheels, 4, bigger lipos to stop volt drop under load.
If you just used bigger lipos 10000mah then your mosfets would overheat in 5 mins.
How do i connect the throttle to the vesc?
see my reply below to lineup exspress who asked the same question. thanks
You can use a modified servo tester. Just de-solder the potienometer and connect the control wires there. Videos on this mod are all ready out there on RUclips.
How come you're not getting a load of attention from the rozzers?
millions sold on the high street as toys, so not a motor vehicle by definition.
That's reassuring. I bought a E300 recently with the thought of using it to get to work. The SLA batteries were goosed, so I junked the Razor controller and put in a 48V 1000W PWM that I had lying around and hooked up a power cord to use my 67.2v 16s 6p battery pack I use on my ebikes. For good measure and minimal grief, I also put in the 350w MY1016 motor. The outcome is about 23mph on the flat and it wants to pick the front wheel up. I've got to uprate the connection though as it's on!y 1mm2, so I'll have shedloads of voltage drop. My first impression is that the drum brake is completely inadequate, so I'll have a look at your hydraulic front brake mod.
awesome battery, i have a razor i squeezed the 350w motor in it runs great at 36v, it would get hot at 60v though, that 1mm must be reducing the current, give it a good run and let me know if it gets hot. a hydraulic disc brake is a great cofidence booster.
It may be limiting the current but the cable wasn't warm after a two mile ride around the estate (including a 400m 3% slope), so I'm not sure. The motor was only lukewarm too but I didn't test it with the IR thermometer, so can't quantify it.
I think it's partly due to the motor spinning with the low 80/11 gear, rather than being asked for too much torque, so its back emf will also limit current. It's rated at 18A, so in theory I could be doing 60 x 18 = 1080W within the current limit; I don't think 24mph takes that much power, so maybe I'm under geared.
I ordered the MAF disc wheel, which I believe from your other comments to be fitted with a 140mm disc. I've also found a caliper mounting bracket on ebay (from China) for a 140mm disc and a 28mm fork (so I'll fit a packer ring).
In terms of a caliper, the ebay listing you cited isn't clear in its description; it seems to suggest it is two sets (one for the front and one for the rear), together with 160 & 180mm discs). Can you clarify? I'll also ask the seller, as I've upgraded the controller on my e-tandem and can't find a regenerative brake function on it. One option is to put a disc on the rear, so if the listing is for both then that kills two birds with one stone.
yes from memory i got front and rear discs and calipers/mounts in the kit i thought of installing the rear kit but the front brake is good for now, i had to chop the handle bars because the length of the front pipe was a bit short, but the quality of the kit was excellent, i believe you can get a screw in disc mount to replace the rear drum, i kept the 140mm disc beacause it puts less strain on the mount.
Wow'" THE BEAST
Does it still work?
yep still by far the best razor scooter ever made. never left me stranded and used every week, weather permitting.
How many volts are you powering it on? And what's the top speed?
50.4v peak, 12s, capable of well over 40mph. currently geared for about 35mph for general use.
Dickie Withers Thanks for the quick answer, i have been looking on this motor and i could find any rpm speed, do you know it?
mine is 130 kv, you can have any speed you like, Lower speeds are better for electric veihcles, mine is 6500rpm at 50.4volts with no load.
Dickie Withers What do you think the top speed could be if you had a 200amp esc and a powerful battery pack with the max amount of cells that the motor can handle?
200 amps at 50volts could achieve 60mph, This motor can handle 70volts, batterys are the most exspensive part of the build, £500-£1000
they could never catch you on one of those , would you bother stopping , just cover face and put hoodie up , i want one , i cant even wire up a bike controller , think i will just wait until you wana sell yours lol
I would stop and argue it's not a motor vehicle. But the police are busy elsewhere, it's not in the public interest taking me to court.
@@dickiewithers9564 a electric motor is a motor but not a engine, a gas motor is a motor and a engine.
Hi mate what do the capisitors do
Hedge Hog they smooth out power. To stop voltage spikes and lows
@@dickiewithers9564 kool my battery is 67.2 50amp what capacitors would I need
Hedge Hog you need 100v capacitors, you could use 3300 microfarads
@@dickiewithers9564 thanks mate for replying that's nice cheers
Do you happen to have the link or name of the wheels you purchased. That would be very helpful in my own build.
I don’t have a link. But I searched for “maf scooter wheel”
Bloody hell!
Speed?
33mph at the moment
Didn't this get stolen
Hell no dont leave it outside
50,4volts x 80amps = 4000watts maximum, in case you ever reach 80amps!!! cause your controller can handle 60amps max!!!
60 amps all day long you mean. i do appreciate your ohms law, how ever this is a video of an electric scooter, The vesc goes way above 60 amps currently 80amp battery 120 amps motor, it doesnt get hot as long as the pumps running, the motor is rated at 7000w, you boffins only want to see the scooter pulling 140 amps, but wheres the fun in that, most electric scooters are listed by the maximum motor wattage for example a 1200w scooter has a motor rating of 600w constant 1200w peak so it is sold as a 1200w scooter
All ratings are decided by the manufacturer and definately not OHMS LAW!!!!!!!!! amplifiers, scooters, tvs, you name it.
50,4volts x 80amps = 4000watts maximum, in case you ever reach 80amps!!! 50volts x 12amph=600watth, also you may manage 4000watts for 600watth/4000watt= 0,15hours=6minutes maximum. if you can use it at max speed , let´s say, for continous 30min, then, your max power isn´t 4000watts, but 4000watts x (6min/30min)=4000/5=800watts, and that is 10 times les than what you claim, which means, that you chose the totaly false motor for your task, and use it in the efficiency field of 50% instead of the efficiency field of 90%, for which it is made for!!! all i want to say, isn´t that your claimed motor power is false, that is anyway obvious (my scooter weights 98kg, and me 88kg, together 413lbs, and reaches 100km/h with 7000watts!!!), but that your motor is falsely dimensioned, you should have chosen an 1000watt motor, and then use it at 800watts, as you anyway do... this way, you would save a lot of electricity (longer range, battery cost, motor weight), and your motor would weight just 300gr... hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-aerodrive-sk3-5055-280kv-brushless-outrunner-motor.html
My motor is from alien power systems, 7000w, look it up, are you jealous, so you think i could put 4000w into a 1000w motor for 6 minutes, that would melt the motor, its more efficent to run your motor at its rated kv so the 280kv motor you suggested would be efficent at double the speed of my motor, which is bad in many ways, it is more efficent to do 30mph than 60mph, my scooter may do 100kmh at 4000w that would be a matter of gearing. Beacause 100km/h is so inefficent i have chosen the perfect kv motor of the perfect size to remain cool with a stronger 12mm shaft at my design speed which is 30mph, what batterys does your 7000w scooter have? many people have used the motor you suggested, it is to high a kv for scooter wheels and the bearings and shaft are to weak, it would be ok for skate boards as the wheels are smaller. Theese small lightweight motors are very powerfull and efficent for there size and weight. I carnt find any videos of your scooter did it blow up before you could get your camera out, ha ha. i understand a smaller motor would be more efficent thats how we all start, it melts and we move on,
just a matter of gearing the motor up...
What’s max speed
Night 34mph gps on the flat.
Dickie Withers ah thanks
ebay 112098957265, and 391385914844 you will need to make two
brackets, i used the battery strap from the scooter to make to bottom
bracket and a bike stabalizer for the top bracket. allso you will need
to cut down the axle spacers as the new wheel is wider.
Dickie Withers ingenious way to adapt the brake system. thank you for all the videos you are providing.
can you say what size brake rotor you went with?
I went with 140mm but 160mm would work, just the the brackets would be weeker (longer). It has More than enough stopping power.
Is that wheel & disc from MAF scooters a straight fit onto the E300 and is it supplied with the 140mm rotor? Cheers
I've bought that wheel and it's too wide for the fork legs and the spindle. How far apart are the fork leg mounts on your scooter (mine are 115mm at the inside face to face)? Cheers
Wooww
Nice Clickbait a vesc only deliver 2500w
Ha ha ha. Why can a vesc only deliver 2500w. Consider that I ride with Gavinstrose whos running at 58.8v and 86amps. And that's a standard vesc. Not water cooled. Or are you just guessing.
@@dickiewithers9564 ahh sry 3000w but never 7000w
You risk a hefty fine and points on your license by riding that on the public roads.
I hope not. I use it everywhere. Definition of a Motor Vehicle. The term 'motor vehicle' is defined
in section 185(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and section 136(1) of
the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 as "a mechanically propelled vehicle, intended or adapted for use on roads".
I have checked the case law, and i am confident, it is a childs toy (argos/smyths/toys r us). But please dont tell any body. Its my secret. Dont buy an adult scooter with suspension though else you will be going to jail.