How to Mod Razor e300 Electric Scooter
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2018
- Complete how to tutorial on how to install a variable throttle and an upgraded controller to a Razor e300 electric scooter.
36v throttle and controller:
www.banggood.com/36V-500W-Mot...
24v controller:
24V 36V 48V Electric Bike Bicycle Scooter Motor Brush Speed Controller Tool
www.ebay.com.au/itm/24V-36V-48V-Electric-Bike-Bicycle-Scooter-Motor-Brush-Speed-Controller-Tool-SG/112553845181?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=412950610235&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Do this modification at your own risk. I do not accept any responsibility for your own actions or damage to equipment or injuries caused by following my instructions. I recommend that adults are the ones to do this modification not children, due to the electrical hazards that are in this modification. Doing this modification will void your warranty.
what about hoverboard batteries? they fit in perfectly in another youtube video ive seen.
that is certainly on the cards as an option as you can get 2 x 36v batteries with a charger for around $120 (AUD).
While they are 36V, what sort of ride duration could you get from a charge? Suppose you could use 2 in series or parallel for 36V output but twice the amount of juice. Plus would these with the right Motor give you 30mph top speeds??
@@namenameson8353
Thanks for the feedback. So what Battery and Motor combination do you recommend? I've seen off the shelf EVO and MAF scooters that are rated at 36V 2000W output, for the 30mph top speed. So you dont recommend that? I think the Razor chassis is better as simple design so i assume lighter, which means a powerful electrical setup will shift it's weight easier.
@@furiousangels6222 my preference is torque over speed because I have a lot of hills to contend with, so im lookign at a new 350w motor geared down with probably 2x 36v hover board batteries.
The chassis on the scooter is one of its best selling points for me. It's not too heavy but it's built like a tank so it's nice and safe. The wheels are big and chunky too which jz good. I got mine just to cruise around and get up a few hills, not for racing or speed or nything because it's just too dangerous I reckon
Without this video, I could not have made my conversion to a 36 volt system. Your patient explanation of where the wires go and what problems that i may encounter was terrifically helpful. Thank you.
I ordered the mentioned parts for about $20. If you don't want to pay for the express delivery charge, it will arrive in a month from China. I followed the video tips and make sure you pay attention near the end when he had to change the wiring. You don't want to burn your controller. My works great !!!
Where did you order the parts from? Link? Thanks
Just got my e325 at the swap meet. Great deal needs a new battery I’m a computer tech but haven’t done scooter repairs yet
Just picked one up for £15 replacement lithium battery new motor controller variable speed throttle with voltage going to replace the motor and sprocket and chain next peace and love to all
This is great video bro even from years ago this is still good advice, I just picked up two e300s for the kids and this controller made a huge difference in throttle response and overall performance.
Glad I could help. Mines still going and I upgraded to 36v lithium battery and 36v motor. Not superfast but still good to know it's possible if your kids get big and want to upgrade it to go uphills faster.
Thank you, great job
Brilliant tutorial. I'm at the start, looking for an E300 scooter, so i can complete a power/performance upgrade, as you detail here. You deserve much more credit for this video. 😎👍
thanks for your nice comment mate, appreciate it :)
...this wont generate better performance or power. It just gives you a better throttle control.
For performance keep the stock motor and run it at 36v. Its makes a HUGE difference.
That's what I did...
@@lestergranger1685 how long did your motor last you? And did you use it at full throttle?
@@Andre-jp4yt it's been 18months... almost two years and yes I use full throttle. But I do think the motor could do with stripping down or replacement as I can feel it slowing down.
@@lestergranger1685 Nice, I hooked up two 12V 12AH batteries, thinking adding the 3rd, will see how it handles.
Thanks great vid!
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching
I've totally worked on computers, and omg these seem so much simpler! the only thing id have trouble with is matching the batteries voltage to the motors, and finding the right throttle to the right bar if i had a non standard diameter handle. One thing I would totally mod on there is a solar charger that i can plug in at will for when i wanted to go camping or longer rides lol.
Will this kit make the scooter faster?
And do you know the difference in speed before and after the upgrade?
Hi, I got a 2nd hand e300. The charger light goes green after about an hour and a half. Would you say the batteries have had it?
Thank you
Was your red/black off the stock controller for the brake lever color switched? Oddly I noticed stock that red is connecting with black. Can’t figure if I should wire with similar color combo with upgraded controller. Thoughts?
You could add a remote switch to turn it on with your phone. The power can be delivered from one of the batteries, since it works only with 6-12VDC (yeah, I'm talking about arduino), but I think it's worth it.
That would be a cool mod
@@outie555two Yeah, I'm planning to make a tutorial on my channel about it.
Is there a possibility of upgrading to a front suspension fork?
Hi just a quick question through the charging port lead I’m getting the full battery voltage is this correct seems to me that it uses power when powered off by switch can you confirm this
Hi, thanx for making and sharing this video. The controller is 24V & how many Watts? R U using a 350Watt 24V motor in there? I have a 350Watt 24V motor, what controller should I use? I would appreciate if U can help me with that, thank U 😊
NEED HELP! I have a 24v scooter that already has variable throttle... Can i put a 36 v in it without cooking the speed control?
Dam i did the same i bought a 36v kit cuz of upgrading soon but wanted to run 24v for now lol looks like i need a 24v ffs 😂
Cool vid bro
Yeah won't work easier to buy the 24v
It doesnt work because the lower voltage cut off on a 36v controller is ABOUT 30v. Which means even with a 24v lithium pack fully charged to 29.4v it's still below cut off and simply wont run.
I've got 2x hoverboard batteries and a 36v 500w controller. Pump that into the 250w 24v standard e300 scooter and you have a solid 22mph (35km/h)
Job done. (And it's fairly cheap too!!)
@@lestergranger1685hi I know I’m very late lol but did u replace the motor? Or did it handle the extra voltage from the controller?
Hi, did You cut off the thin black wire which is going from charging port to main ON/OFF switch? If yes tell me why because i had a problem with my scooter. Charger was blinking red/green and did't charging the batteries. I connected charger directly to batteries аnd now is working.
I have: 36V controller YK31c, 36V baterries (new 3x12v 9Ah), variable throtle, 350W motor, 36v charger. Scooter is very powerfull, very fast but range after the modification is very poor maybe 1 km. And as I said I connected charger directly to the batteries. Any idea?
I am waiting for new controller 350W because my present is like 800W and maybe this is the problem? What do You think?
I was doing exactly the same like You.
Did you put the i
Lithiums in?
Great video. Could you link the throttle and controller 24v as I’m not sure which kit to get.
For 24 v this looks good. [AU$32.47]24V 250W Motorcycle Brush Speed Controller & Scooter Throttle Twist Grips Electric Scooters from Automobiles & Motorcycles on banggood.com
banggood.app.link/KumwGZ7JgZ
Working great so far thanks for your help!! Did you use the stock fuse Thanks!!
When I plug in the charger the light mostly stays green, however it seems to blink briefly red sometimes but it goes right back to green. The battery light indicator on the throttle is chasing from red to green which I assume means it’s charging?
So informative video! Is it possible to ride it like a kick scooter when the battery dies? It has a freewheel clutch like on bicycles.
Yes it can easily go when kicked. Has a free clutch. Up hills it is heavy due to the batteries so better to push up hills if flat
outie555 Thanks dude!
outie555 In Russia this thing is so expensive, $450-500. I'm going to buy secondhand for 150$, it is working still well.
A very popular scooter, I have 3.
Right my scooter is just broken, the throttle won't work and the batteries are dead ,could I still follow this tutorial?
Thank you my friend Please I want color cable
Hi to all ,before a few days I bought a scooter rezor e300.. I bought and a new charger I left for 8-12hours for charging and after I try to drive ..my problem is it’s working but as soon as I go up to the scooter it’s doesn’t going ..If I but something down of the scooter and I open its working very well.. with a person up it’s not going ..can someone tell me maybe what’s the problem ??? I look forward to hearing your thoughts...king regards to all..
That Banggood throttle, do they come in 24V? I found one on my used E300 and it drops almost down to the red on acceleration but shows all the bars at idle (@24V) Batteries are 2 new 12/8's. Do you think this is a 36V model or would that show low battery (24V) at idle?
Mine is the 36v model, and it showed half bars and was orange at full charge. Honestly don't know if they have 24v ones.
I missed changing the charger leads and now nothing works. You mention the charger being blown, but what has packed up on the e300. Will it be the controller?
Just bought my e300 for 70 bucks 😍
Bargain!
got mine for 100, still a bargain !
LempsPC he gave me an extra one too for free lol
I just bought 4 300s and 3 100s for 150bux dude was leaving the country and had to get rid of his kids toys so stoked don’t know where to start!!
@@dachagsgo8176 wanna call me I do these for a living making em go like 35 mph + 2247880102
Que motor usa tu maquina.
Hi, my friend, I am writing from Peru a question this driver can be used for a scooter of another brand? I mention the characteristics of mine:
Power 350-watt brushless wheel
Voltage: 24 volts
I am attentive to your answer and thanks in advance.
If by driver you mean controller, then yes. It will work with different brands, just needs the same voltage.
Could I put 1000w through that throttle? I’m planning to go for a 36v 1000w setup and wanted to know if it’d be ok to use the controller you have with a 1000w motor, if possible could you send me a list of links for everything I’d need to get to complete my setup
You have to choose a 1000W 36V controller. The 250W 24V used in this video would blow up.
Mileage?
Hi I have been updating, my e300. Purchased the same kit as you, but got the 24v controller. But I’m hitting a few issues. Although you address the wiring, but the replacement has different wires and little explanations as to which goes where. I know I may have to swop a couple around. But can anyone give me some clarification as to which equals which from the old to the new. I have pics of the old one on the left and the new one one the right.
I think if the first wire on the left as being No1 But how do they marry up to the new ones. I spent all today trying to work out what is what before I start altering.
Many thanks. 2p
Any help anyone.
You'll need to get a basic multimeter that will display voltage. Use it to see what's happening on the wires and work out what you can and maybe label them. You will probably have 12v light outputs for head light and brake light. Throttle neg and POS and a signal wire (usually green) for the variable throttle. And a brake cut off to the motor wire.
You used the stock motor stock gear i just found one in the garbage and it works but i want it faster
Hi. I've wired it all up and the motor spins. But the throttles battery indicators don't turn off. Please help
You have bypassed the on off switch from the positive wire from battery to controller,, so the controller is telling you it's got power and indicating it on the LEDs.
Do u have the video where u convert the battery to 36v ?
I don't but I think I recorded it on an old hard drive but life has gotten in the way but one day I might find it
I've been trying to repair my nephews. the wheel spins but I can stop it with my hand. it doesn't have any pulling power. I tested the batteries & they read 24 volts but I'm thinking they're just srong enough to move the wheel but still need replaced.
Or the motor could be worn out? Probably the batteries though. See if you run it and it gradually gets slower over a short time. Does a voltmeter read exactly 24.0 volts?
@@outie555two one battery reads just under 12 , the other a lil above 12 v but they're old an I had watched another vid where they could read 12v but have no cold cranking amps , basically no real power under load.
Yeah probably the batteries. You can get them on eBay, I've seen them for about $60 AUD for a pair.
Will it work for a razor electric moped?
Don't see why not if it's wired correctly
Hey did you ever get a new battery? If so which one I can’t find any out there.
Yeah I ended up getting a lithium 36v 10ah battery that just fits perfectly, from ebay
@@outie555two okay thx
Will a 250w Motor work with a 36v controller and throttle?
Yes, but it will get hotter at max throttle load, so increases the risk of burning out the motor. I'm leaving the stock one in when I eventually upgrade my battery.
outie555 will you use lithium batteries. And where would you by them and the charger from?
Hi. Now my charger is blinking green while it's on charge. And it is very slow
It's blinking because the power is not going just to the batteries. Check your wiring and isolate the controller with an on off switch
Do I have to worry about the motor burning out I'm new to this I'm 14
Feel motor time to time make sure doesn't get hot. Sparks could fly!
can you do a tutorial on how to replace lead acid batteries to a lithium battery pack to extend the life, and reduce charging time? PLEASE PLEASE DO THIS! My batteries are messed up and thy ride for 15 minutes, and take 12 hours to charge. I have the exact same model, and color. PLEASE!
Yes that's the plan. My lead acid batteries are old too, so once I have saved up some money I will be doing a lithium battery mod 😀
id be keen on this too. youre a bit more practical than me, which is why id rather see you do it first before i attempt it. :-))
This feels like a dumb question but if you can use three 12 volts to make a 36 volt, why can't you just use four 9 volts? Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper and smaller?
I'm assuming you mean the 9v batteries you use in smoke alarms. Yes it would work for a total of 2 minutes as the capacity of the batteries is a lot smaller. Each 9v battery is about 500mah, so it would be 2000 mAh total with 4 9v batteries. Each stock 12 v battery is about 9000 mah, and with two that's 18000 mAh.
@@outie555two You need to go back and check maths basics... 2x 12v 9ah gives you 24v 9ah when connected in series or 12v 18ah in parallel. Also the 9v smoke alarm size are only meant for low current so may not even turn the motor at all...
I've used 2x hover board 36v 4.4ah with a 36v 500w motor for 6 months. Just connect them in parallel and charge them in parallel with the hover board charger. The battery has built in bms (battery manager system) . I cut one open to check.
Also have a 36v 800w with 15ah lithium ion battery. Don't go there though as needed massive work to fit into frame...
Currently trying to make 2wd version using the hover board motors. Mounting front one so it steers properly is fun...
@@bowjjj3 Nice work dude, what sort of range can you get using them batteries?
does this mod make the e scooter faster
Only if the voltage of the batteries are higher. If these were 36 v batteries instead of the combined 24 v of the stock setup, then it will go faster. That's what I want to do in the future. As a minimum the variable throttle makes a nice addition.
It's start of Summer and it's been 11 months since your last video on the e300 - what about an UPDATE?
Update is I'm looking for a battery, 10ah 36v lithium with BMS and a charger for a good price and must fit in the battery bay.
@@outie555two This guy has sold a ton of these batteries and people really like them - even some utubes on them - 2 36v packs would give you 8.8 AH www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LG-36V-4-4AH-BATTERY-PACK-18650-EBIKE-VAPE-POWERWALL-BATTERIES-20-CELLS-BMS/183770560027?hash=item2ac994361b:g:nKUAAOSwuspY9YNZ:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!60169!US!-1
That's good if you live in America, but they don't ship to Australia
So how fast can it go?
Running pace I would say. I'm upgrading it soon as these batteries are way too old and only last 15 minutes. Just need to save up $170 to buy a decent lithium battery
Where did you get your 36v batteries
I haven't got them yet, but will probably get hoverboard battery's. They are 36v, just will have to figure out how to wire two of them together for extra endurance and how it will all charge with a hoverboard charger.
outie555 yo charge with a hover bored charger you just have to un screw the old one and screw in the hover board charger
Where do you plan to buy your 36 volt battery from?
eBay. I am after a 10ah lithium battery with BMS and charger. So far they are about $300 AUD. I have to measure the inside of the scooter to see if it will fit. 10ah are harder to come by so worst case I might go the 15 ah battery but it will need additional modification to make the battery bay bigger
@@outie555two I think your better of getting hoverboard batteries they are cheap and reliable
What’s the speed and range now
With lithium battery 36v and 350w motor and controller, top speed about 28km on flat ground. No idea about range as it's never gone flat on me, but estimate I could ride somewhere between 1 and 2 hours before it goes flat, in urban conditions.
how many volts can the stock motor handle
It's made for 24V, but I'm hopefully going to be able to run it at 36V but it can heat up at full load at 36V, so it will depend on how heavy the rider is and how much is ridden at full throttle. Wouldn't go any higher than 36V.
@@outie555two is it possible or feasible to install a small fan to cool down the motor?
hey did you ever upgrade the brakes
No
@@outie555two really how fast does it go and that drum break works well faster mine doesn't stop that well i need to do something lol
@@Thecamp12345 maybe the cable just needs tensioning
@@outie555two maybe im not sure gotta take it apart and see they probally wron out
Will this make your e300 faster?
It can but depends on what you want. I put a 350w motor and 35v battery and it's top speed is now about 28km, but it keeps riding all day long.
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Not sure what this says, has no translation option in RUclips.
Didnt you have a 24 V controller in there to start with ? This whole video was an excercize in futility should just switch the motor out to 500 watt it will fit and give you 2xs the power to the.motor 41 $ on wild scoots
Although you mean well with your comment, it does show that you may not have done much research into why I didn't use the stock 24 v controller. To save you some time googling and researching it yourself, the stock controller does not support a variable throttle. imagine if i did what you are suggesting and modded this scooter with a 500W motor without a variable controller. it would have two speed settings, off and on 100% full throttle. That would not be very safe, drain the battery very quickly, and 500W will exceed the power outputs for a legal ride for when I use the scooter. Go ahead and do what you suggested in your comment and feel free to prove me wrong with how delighted you will be with all that power all the time.
@@outie555two Great video, and this comment answered why I should not drop a 36v li ion pack into it
without first upgrading the trottle and controller, keeping the motor keeps it legal :)
How in the hell do u have a positive n negative hooked 2gether that would blow up
Google batteries in series and parrallel
@@LS__812 dont need 2 Google u cant connect positive n negative
@@bluntv1 you can if your making 2 12 volt batteries run 24 volts
@@bluntv1 ruclips.net/video/wdgq1-o1_8g/видео.html
@@LS__812 got it. My bad
chain looked too tight!
Do you know how much play up and down it should have in cm?
I have a similar Scooter to the razor e300, I replaced the controller, motor for a 36v motor and replaced the acid batteries for the battery pack from the M365. I also changed the drum brake for a disc brake. I took it for a test drive and seemed to last longer and go a bit faster then the stock parts. check out my videos on my channel #pimpmyelectricscooter
19:09 ... spot the deliberate mistake - "put lights on the bike" 😉
yeah too used to riding and doing motorcycle vlogs!
@@outie555two
I ride motorcycles too plus do also enjoy following the motovlog scene 😁👍. Although it seems to be suffering a lull after so many were doing it on youtube. So do you think alot of motorcyclists are also riding electric powerboards? 😊
Red goes to red and black goes to black , Pakistan .
I just have 9ah batteries on mine
I think that's the lithium size I put in mine.
Overvolting is bad at any cost don't do it
Agreed. I have upgraded the motor to 36v now, but before it, I tested the stock 24v motor at 36v. It lasted 20 min before smoking and burning out. I had to do it for science 🤠