Quick note - Yes, I am aware that ducks are bipedal I didn't think the random shit I said during a clearly angry and annoyed rant would be the main point of criticism for the video, but here we go
Disney's been pretty lenient with their marvel projects recently. It's just that this show specifically had one of the worst writers humanity ever conceived.
Could’ve literally had what her Winter Soldier and Civil War events would’ve been like. But this is Disney we’re talking about and they aren’t really well known for being the smartest company
@@BrickFighter13 it's not about her being a recurrent character but rather making so that every appearance after the first one gets progressively more boring by not doing anything interesting with it other than "oh she is captain america but a woman and british"
The series would have been a hit if they did ‘What if the other half was erased?’ ‘What if the villains were the heroes and the heroes were the villains?’ ‘What if Thanos invaded in 2012?’ ‘What if the other Spider-Men were never sent back?’ and ‘What if Thor and Hulk were in Civil War?’
You mean, the actual interesting questions we had in our minds when watching the movies? The premise of the show ought to have been, “what if some of the biggest and most impactful moments in the MCU went the other way?” Not, “what if we made our OC Captain Carter the most important person in the multiverse?”
Marvel: Hey look six arm spiderman, shogun ghost rider, blade as moon knight, thanos as wolverine, deadpool kills the marvel universe, wanna see this? Well guess what? Here's another captain carter episode!!
what ifs work best with well established characters. So here have Monica Rambeau, no one knows her super powers or her story but somehow we supposed to care about a what if with her in it.........same for riri williams lmao.
@@transformerstuff7029 This is one of the biggest problems with this season in particular. A lot of the characters are so ill-defined that you could replace them with one of a dozen other MCU characters and the story would work just as well.
After season 1, the only thing they should have done with captain Carter is go through her winter soldier and civil war equivalent events. No more multiverse adventures with her.
Legit yeah!! like what if in her winter solider events, she has to fight Steve Rogers who was brainwashed instead of Bucky. What would’ve legit warranted more episodes of her instead of just Disney using her for their dumb multiverse BS
@@BrickFighter13 "What if... we actually watched the show and saw that they actually did that in s2e5 'What If... Captain Carter fought the Hydra Stomper?'?"
It's heavily implied they learned about Tiamut from Arishem, in order to stop Agatha after she started taking them down one after the other,. In the comics, Tiamut is shown to be stronger than Arishem too (by defeating him), so it wouldn't be all that unbelievable for a soon-to-be-born Tiamut's power used by a potent user like Agatha to be able to beat Arishem.
@@arx6541that first point, hulk’s tagline in the comics is “hulk is strongest there is”. We shouldn’t use comics to excuse things in the movies, as the movies have to stand on their own feet unless explicitly acting as continuation of a comic storyline 1:1
@@killian9314 We have absolutely no scaling for awakened Tiamut in the movies (and barely any for Arishem) unlike Hulk, so there's only one way by which someone can claim "Erishem is way stronger than Tiamot". The comics aren't an excuse, they're the only way anyone can make such a claim without resorting to "feelings" (aka, making shit up) and, as such, very much are a valid source to contradict their claim.
Truly the show failed at being what the synopsis says it is. "What if?" What if Tony got away fast enough before getting hit by the rocket? What if Thanos loss on Titan? What if Hank had went to the Quantum realm? What if Cap had killed Iron Man in Civil War?
What if Tony suceeded on creating Ultron (before it turned evil)? What if Professor Hulk came to be before Infinity War? What if Hydra suceeded on dominating Earth in Captain America 2? What if Ego The Living Planet suceeded on dominating the universe? What if Maestro came to be instead of Professor Hulk? And so on...
@nyblller9785 Basically there was infinite stories Disney could have pulled out. And if people wanted to see more of one specific timeline for example on if Tony succeeded in Ultron and it leaves a great ending but more could come of it so fans want more and later on it happens. But it'd be a rare case. Not something that happens 24/7
What if...Tony Stark lived but Captain America died in Endgame What if...The Avengers meet the 2000's Xmen What if...captain marvel was actually a likeable hero So many possibilities
@Kink_Shaman All very valid points. I dipped out of the show after season 1 thankfully. So much potential for a show and they barely use the whole multiverse aspect. I more or less mean that the show shouldn't have a story
at least people who make fanfiction actually bother to make pretty cool ideas. Sure most of the stories are romantic, but at least you care about the characters instead of the writing being bare minimum basic
Meanwhile marvel fanfiction. What if a Hogwarts trained wizard had a family and life in the marvel universe and had to travel the multiverse to gain powers to protect his family and the earth form greater and greater foes trying to destroy earth and the universe with earth included. No romance at all just him trying to stop tragedies form happening.
I mean, I’m writing a Fanscript for an episode. What If The Defenders United? It’s an alternate universe where instead of Steven Strange becoming the Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Druid becomes Sorcerer Supreme… Instead of trapping Dormammu in a loop, he kills him (by overwhelming him with hundred of copies)…. Which ends up attracting a greater threat to consume Earth, Galactus. So he assembles a team together, consisting of Bruce Banner, Namor, Valkyrie, Wasp, Gilgamesh (who wasn’t a member in the comics, but come on)…. And Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze) Along the way, they are forced to fight Galactus’ Heralds in order to find the Ultimate Nullifier.
"what if we did the most boring alternate earths because the MCU is boring and sterile and takes no risks, unlike the comics which literally had the incursions, trademark safe Justice League facing off against the Avengers, illuminati and God Doom." Also of course they made Agatha a god and gave an entire episode to REEREE. The sheer favoritism and hamfisted pushing of these two characters is insane.
This is what happens when you see cartoons as a kids only medium... Imagine if they took this medium and the artists hardwork seriously rather than burning money on live action... Definitely a soccer mom is in charge of the animation department...
@@SerbianLifter997 Why do you say there's favoritism towards Riri and Agatha, the black and gay characters? Didn't Peggy Carter have like 3 episodes? Didn't Party Thor and Dr. Strange have their own episodes?
NGL it's amazing how much they missed the point of a "What if?..." anthology series. Should've just called it "Captain Carter & Girl Bosses across the multiverse".
@ how when she was only in a handful of episodes? It was far more about random characters than Captain Carter. But I bet if she were a man it wouldn’t be a problem, would it?
My main issue with the red guardian episode is it implies him and bucky built a stronger relationship than fucking Steve. Even with cap, they still needed years for the wakandans to help him, but rg is just able to get him to snap out. On the mysterious episode, why the fuck does he need vision? We see in spiderman homecoming that he doesn't just create illusions, he can hide himself also (he made himself invisible to almost shoot spiderman at the end) so he should just be able to have the drones go invisible and shoot the rebels.
You know it probably would be more interesting to make it so that the red guardian was sent to capture Bucky, because some russian officials figured out Bucky was a part of hydra, and they wanted to get info from him. So Bucky would try to find a safe place to get picked up by hydra,so you would have a episode of the a game of cat and mouse with the roles occasionally switching when one of them gets the upper hand, and you could still have it so stark's parents are saved leaving room for another episode to explore the world after that point and depending on how the episode ends you could have one of them die, which does change the fate of Black widow or Steve by a lot. (This could work, but I admit I can't remember all of the Mcu's history so this scenario might not work)
This is EXACTLY how I feel about the show. They could've made something really interesting, with its ACTUAL premise, instead just made the captain carter show -which I KNEW would happen when the VERY FIRST episode was that boring premise.
You know what genuinely irritates me about the Howard and Darcy episode? The trouble with Endgame was the new status quo it created. Earth and the rest of the universe were now intertwined: Asgardians live in Norway. Earth knows about the Guardians of the Galaxy and Captain Marvel. The whole of space probably knows about the Avengers. People were expecting the Guardians to show up in an Earth based story, or an Iron Man memorial on a planet in a space movie. Anyone could turn up: that's what Endgame implied. Aside from a documentary about the Infinity Gauntlet in Far From Home, AvengerCon in Ms. Marvel, people cosplaying as Captain America, Black Widow and Ant-Man in The Holiday Special and Rocket being mentioned in Quantumania, there's not been much to write home about. Endgame has created expectations that they've not lived up to yet. An episode where Darcy lays an egg explores the ideas that Endgame implied a lot more than the actual MCU. You have Nick Fury knowing about the Collector and the Ravagers. You have the Grandmaster space cruises from Earth. You have Masters of the Mystic Arts in space. And all we can focus on is the fact that Howard screwed Darcy and she pushed out an egg the size of her head.
I share you frustration, but I think that's a general comic-book-story problem, not an MCU problem specifically. With all the space aliens, mutants, super-genius inventors, wizards, and multiversal visitors running around, the Marvel universe should look more like Futurama than real life. Yet one gets the impression that most people's lives somehow carry on the same way as ours. Somehow all the fantasy elements seem to exist in only small areas and have little impact on most of the world, while also being in constant danger of completely transforming/destroying the world. My only question is, are comics any better about this? I don't read comics, but I assume they have the same issue but worse, 'cause they have WAY more stuff going on than the MCU has so far.
@@DuneStone6816 Nope, you basically nailed it. Both in Marvel and DC comics and animated shows (which btw the DC animated shows are so much better than the DCEU movies), the superheroes and supervillains, space aliens and whatnot mostly exists to fight each other in their own little schoolyard battles, while the rest of the world carries on (unless the Earth/the Universe is destroyed in a What If? story or to make room for the next reboot a la _The New 52)._ Because otherwise the writers would have to face the problem of "What if Superman actually fought corporate corruption?" instead of fighting Lex Luthor or Darkseid. At least modern Lex Luthor the corporate CEO is actually allowed to use his superb intellect and engineering talent to make money by selling his inventions, compared to Silver Age Lex Luthor who was stuck as a Mad Scientist with a grudge against Superman for petty reasons who would invent some super-tech to break into a bank vault and steal physical paper money or gold bars (because he needed money for further inventions), instead of just selling his damn invention. It would also mean that various writers (manyof them writing on commission) would've have to actually sit together and create an Earth that would soon look very different from the world and cultures we know... which goes against the American obsession with characters needing to be "relatable" for the average (US-American) audience.
episode 1: is basically Pacific Rim, only worse. episode 2: i don't mind it. could be worse. episode 3: is the Red Guardian usually this obnoxious? episode 4: i'm...pretty sure Humans don't lay eggs. doesn't matter if your husband is a duck. episode 5: what was the point of that? episode 6: who was asking for this? episode 7: why? episode 8: WHY!?!
giant mech suits based on heroes, yet these suits do not use the hero powers..........who writes these things?! That is such a missed chance, now it just became a horrible mecha episode.
so with 3 seasons, 26 episodes. we got 2 and a half episodes that was actually about what if 24 awful fan fiction episodes 7 episodes of captain carter's wacky adventures 3 "epic" team up episodes and 0 episodes of what we actually wanted from this show wasted potential doesn't even describe this show
I’m genuinely curious, why are there only 2 what if episodes? I mean, the stark and gamora one is what if, first captain carter one is what if, ultron one is what if, doctor strange one is what if, etc. Like they all ask what if questions
@@Asher-e4v6s what if the avengers never formed and what if doctor strange lost his heart instead of his hands. those are the only good episodes in the show
Why do the Watchers need to die though? They arent even the villains. By uatu interfering ever, and continuing to do so, he is robbing the ENTIRE UNIVERSE of their free will. They just want him to stop interfering.
The elder watchers are literally objectively morally correct in every regard to their interactions with Uatu...and are painted as the bad guys The thing people need to realize is that Holllywood is written by amoral sociopaths that don't understand anything about moral consistency. Do I agree with the elder wtachers? No not entirely as a mortal but from the standpoint of a higher level being? Yeah makes total sense.
Jesus, so you are telling me they made a Birdie origin story and a Riri episode over what if Storm got the power of Thor? Like even if we exclude the literal infinite amount of better stories they could of told this season they got a really cool one RIGHT THERE and chose to do ones about nobodies instead.
The Howard the Duck episode is hyper cringe, it’s an utter abomination of storytelling and should never have been committed to the page of a first draft, let alone an entire produced episode in a multimillion dollar Marvel production.
It was all to get a cheap Phoenix cameo but god If I ever sit through that shit I’m going to have to bleach my eyes cuz they blew way past the line of ridiculous and disgusting
@@lawrencericho3635 season 1 is a good excuse at least cuz almost everyone showed up twice, but with her alone, she has enough episode apearances to have a WHOLE SEASON TO HERSELF
i just hate how it looks, it's so ugly. The way the character's mouths move when they talk is infuriating the bad/cringe writing, wasted potential, plot armor, and contrivance galore is just more justification to drop it like a bad habit
@@ryderjames3070 No it is actually horribly cheap, uncanny valley looking. S03E01, Bucky looks like a fucking anime dweeb crossed with a goddamn giraffe. I didn't even know it was him. In his next outing, neither of those things, but same character and "art style". Bizarre. The facial animations are okay, at times, until a character speaks. In that same episode, watch them walk.. Sam near the end is a good example of it, looks robotic and just.. off.. like the rest of the show, in all aspects. Color was.. nice. I guess.
Ever since that first shit-episode where Darcy and Howard get married (by a HILARIOUS Elvis impersonator, member dat? "I now pronounce you Darcy and-a The Duck UHH-HUNH!"), any time I see those characters again, all I can think of is "ducks have corkscrew penises..."
That's a weird things to be negatively passionate about ? Darcy the cartoon character and Howard the not real duck at all ? This is the hill u choose to die on ?
Not gonna lie was one of the best episodes just turned off my brain and just enjoined an entertaining story, it's not trying to be something it's just is and I think that's what's great about it call it fan fiction but when are we gonna get another show that can be so unapologetic with it's character while also showcasing how much the writers love and care about these characters
That's how normalization works. The Howard the Duck movie teased a joke about it and people thought it was cringe, and What if actually did it which is just sick. Then the furry defenders would show up and say, "Well he can walk on two legs and talk so it's ok." Just because another species can audibly consent doesn't mean it's ok. All the known cases are of people who said, "It's ok, the animal consented."
Season 2 and 3 of this show really highlights the problem with Marvel’s writing problem, in that it’s terrible and often lazy, specially in modern comics, and the fact that Feige shot down multiple much darker stories that would’ve been interesting to see just shows that they never understood why “What If” comics were awesome. Take the Wild West episode for instance. You can keep the same storyline, but give a clear reason how and why this What If exists, and introduce Wild West versions of various characters that are clearly distinct from how they would normally be. - the Wasp who uses a pair of guns that shoot paralytic needles - Thor but he’s just a thug who uses a steampunk style gun that shoots lightning bolts and can be thrown like a boomerang - a Steampunk style Ultron made of gears and cogs and built in flamethrowers, who was built by Hank Pym who himself uses a steam powered exo-skeleton It’s the Multiverse of INFINITE possibilities! Be creative!
One of the dumbest things that I felt like this season had, was that they legitimately acted as if not having the original actors involved meant they couldn't bring their characters in. Literally, that's how every episode this season went. Rather than using characters from all over the MCU, or beyond, they say "Oh lets just use all these people who are fine being in Disney+ TV shows and only use them!". The first season of What If was so much better, because they actually used the main marvel characters. Sure, half of them weren't voiced by their original actors, but it didn't matter. Seasons 2 and even more so 3 have just become Jubilee's fairytale theater with secondary MCU characters who are fine with voicing these animated versions of themselves. What If should've either been animated comic material insanity, or really interesting and thought provoking/cool MCU alternate universes/histories. Unfortunately that wasn't the case, hence why a show with quite literally infinite realities to explore died after just 3 less than 10 episode seasons, the latter two being increasingly, almost agenda pushing, slop
I didn’t even realize but you are right, we had no iron man, no captain america (Steve rogers), no black widow even. We legit could have gotten some really really good episodes, “What if Wolverine ordered dominos pizza” “What if Spider-Man lost no nut November” “What if Ghost Rider got a flat tire” The possibilities were endless
Thats a really good point and explains a lot. And even then it is insane that they didnt take more interesting characters. I mean I would have been happier if they just animated some comics. An example would be the story of the Horse Thor character. I don´t remember his name but I do remember that he had an awesome comic. So much wasted potential
I have to disagree with you on the riri episode, they never explain why she does the things she does, how is she able to make these over the top inventions?? Nobody knows. She's an even bigger mary sue than captain carter if you ask me
Yeah i felt the same, she is way too op. But it's consistent with the mcu. It feels like riri is tony if he was originally good, genius and flawless. Which in my opinion boring
@Anderson-f4t6c exactly, half of the episode she's running around with something that looks like Tony's arc reactor on her chest. Why though?? Does she even need it?? They never tell us
To be fair most comic geniuses are Mary Sues and Gary Stus...its literally NEVER explained why they're so smart😂. I love Spiderman...but a 15 year old creating a substamce that doesmt even exist on the periodic table that is STRONGER than steel but somehow lighter than even titanium...makes ZEROOOOOO sense💀 The billionaires are somewhat believable but even then you can call BS on a lot of the things they make. How did Tony figure out TIME TRAVEL...in a SINGLE NIGHT after NEVER having attempted it b4💀 Superheroes DONT make sense when we start to nitpick A LOT of their feats
Riri in black panther already built her own iron man suit from scraps as well as building the ONLY vibranium detector, at like 16 THEN was allowed to study in wakanda for some time under Suri.... her being an expert on how to manipulate a being made of Vibranium (and still losing btw) doesn't make her a Marry Sue, she literally kept losing unless the watcher stepped in... that's NOWHERE NEAR Peggy somehow becoming the most powerful entity in the multiverse who is now "watching the watcher"
@officialiicon at least captain carter has the "super soldier, pure of hart, symbol of hope" thing going for her. Riri is just a black girl with cornrows who can defeat white vision in 10 min for some reason, not to mention she wears him as a skinsuit to fight the villain at the end💀
The problem is that they hired writers with small to no experience in writing. I mean, one of the writer wrote the Trollhunter movie... god damn Marvel is doomed
@@ZackExplorer28 For the most part the Tales of Arcadia series range from decent to pretty good. The movie is just dumb. So dumb. Darcy and Howard the Duck having a cosmic being child levels dumb. Overall I recommend only watching Trollhunter and 3Below. There is no point watching Wizards since it's just a setup for the movie and the weakest of the shows by far. As for the movie, I once again must warn you that it is mind numbingly dumb. Spoiler for just a taste of the stupidity. Teenaged Male Pregnancy is an actual plot point . Like I said, it's dumb.
Calling it fan fiction is an insult to fan fiction as a whole. There is a great story called "The Other Side" centered around the "What if the other heroes got snapped" featuring Peter working alongside whoever survived the Snap non-stop for three years in order to bring everyone back. It's better written than anything the MCU launched in the past 4 years. Go read it.
I think What If as a series should be like this: •Have better animation •Wouldn't end and wouldn't connect to each episode and just be about scenarios instead with Uatu just narrating. •Make the episode limit a bit longer but not too slow paced (depending on the scenario) •Make more creative and interesting episodes and not random filler bs. •Each episode should focus on 1 or 2 MCU projects chronologically. Here are my ideas for episodes of What If: •What If Iron Monger won? •What If The Leader fought Hulk? •What If Tony died to the arc reactor poisoning? •What If Loki took over Asgard? •What If Thanos invaded in 2012? •What If Malekith made the Universe dark? •What If Quicksilver never died? •What If Peter Quill joined Ego? •What If T' Challa became killmonger? •What If the Other Half got snapped? •What If Wanda controlled Earth of the Hex? •What If Gorr killed all the Gods? •What If Kang got out of the Quantum Realm? •What If the other Spider-Men never got home? •What If Peter killed Green Goblin? Note: If you guys have any episode ideas, lmk these r just mine
Extra suggestions: - What if Ant-Man never left the Quantum Realm (in Endgame)? - What if the Avengers didn't split (in Civil War)? - What if Dormamu defeated Dr Strange? - What if Vision survived (in Infinity War)?
What if could've been a great anthology series even with their current limitations in animation and pacing/time, look at the Dr Strange, Hela and Ultron episodes. They're pretty solid overall, and while expanding their runtime would no doubt be better, it still proves that if you have a good concept to explore you can pull it off. Their biggest issue for me is that they'd either explore those cool concepts or give the blandest, most uninspired takes ever. The Captain Carter episode is a perfect example of this because she's basically Captain America but a british woman instead, her values and morals are similar enough that it's not that big of a difference overall. How about a world where the experiment just fails and there's no Captain America or super soldiers at all? It'd certainly be a bigger shakeup than just Captain Carter.
Marvel literally nerfed every single male character. No male character is as strong as he was originally written. But in the last seven years, we have gotten literally over twenty different super overpowered female characters. From the TV shows to the movies. Being that Shang Chi is a minority being that he is Chinese they gave him the ten rings that the only male ever in the history of the mcu who actually has an overpowered power set based on original character. It's like they told a 13 year old girl to write these stories
@@tymonsulimastalman1727 Shang being obliterated by his sister in hand to hand despite explicitly being conceptualized as the single best martial artist in Marvel since the 70's is PEAK modern day Marvel writing
Im literally a liberal and a feminist and I agree. All of the strong female characters’ powers have felt so extremely artificial. All except Wanda, which is why I think she’s so popular in the fandom.
This is what happens when you see cartoons as a kids only medium... Imagine if they took this medium and the artists hardwork seriously rather than burning money on live action... Definitely a soccer mom is in charge of the animation department...
Animation for kids used to be AMAZING though. This is what happens when you see animation as only for low iq people. This show cant compete with the kids cartoons of the 90s or 2000s with MUCH LESS budget
The Howard the Duck one made me irrationally angry by the end. Things kept getting more and more cartoonish so i guessed it would be a fake out ending where the entire episode was Howard and Darcy telling their young child the story of how they met just heavily embellished. I wouldve been less angry about a shitty fake out than whatever that was.
season 1 had a few decent episodes with really, the Doctor Strange episode being the high point of the entire series. To me that episode took it's premise and ran with it. If there was any forced humour I can't remember it ruining the mood (Looking Marvel Zombies) and it ended on a dark note. Then no other episode was able to come close to that one. Maybe Ultron winning episode was close... maybe if it didn't lead into the stupid team up.
I mean yea season 1 was very similar to the mcu but remeber before season 2 came out season 2 of loki had realesed where he broke the mcu tineline and created a new universe thus we get season 2 and 3 where we are now seeing the new universes that loki help create, which is why season 2 episode somewhat feel like season 1 and why season 3 is so unapologetic because it had been years since loki created the multiverse
i gave up on the show when they had the watcher start recruiting people at the end of the ultron episode. before that i was like "well, alot of the epsiodes where mid except 3 and 4, but it could improve" but no, they did the "gUaRdIaNs oF ThE mUlTiVeRsE!!" garbage which derailed the entire thing.
I think Season 3 exists solely "job creation," and "we want to meet these famous actors." 30:40 - Thanos chose the route of "infinite resources," to help sustain life.
I think my problem is by season 3&2 you can tell the writers felt limited by the fact they were only allow to focus on MCU and not any other marvel universe
Worst part was that, when the heroes leveled up to also befome 5th dimensional beings, instead of a realitiy shiftiny fight we just got people throwing hands and laser beams ._.
The only episode of this show that I truly loved is the Dr Strange one, since it focused on its one change, although I usually agree that if one big thing is changed, what is the outlying consequences of that change
The Agatha episode can make sense with needing Howard and making a movie, not having the resources herself, uses the idea of a movie to create it and lure Kingo in
Ngl, the animation generally looks pretty good, especially the "hand drawn" look of the backgrounds and stuff. But for some reason, all the characters' facial movements fall into the uncanny valley for me. It's weird to think that cartoons 20+ years ago did a better job at faces and mouths with a fraction of the budget and all by hand
The worst part of this is that these are not just MCU watchers It’s the MARVEL UNIVERSE WATCHERS like the comics watcher is the same as this watcher technically
You see a 5 year old kid playing with his Super-hero toys, yes? Now imagine that, but now the writer is playing with animated 3D Models and slamming them together like toys of a 5 year old kid.
You actually can fall from basically any height as long as it's at an angle and you roll it off Parkour people do it all the time, it also probably helps to have a kinetic energy absorbing shield and super muscles
How can a computer program re model a giant robot? like seriously if this mode wasn't on the engineers' mind when they designed and built the robot how can it transform? did they somehow just forgot to tell the pilots that this machine can do this?
Storm is here and they didn't think about a what if mutants existed in the mcu timeline ? We could have a Magneto vs Ultron fight, but disney i guess....
This lore is like when you’re playing with legos as a kid and the main character pulls a whole gigaverse of energy out of their bum to kill the big bad, only for everyone to survive
Basically S3 show us that there is no point in S1 for Uatu To Gathered these heroes to beat infinity ultron when The Eminence is right around the corner. Even Marvel Failed to give us an ANTHOLOGY.
I think Marvel expected people to care about these new characters a lot more than they actually did. Even the ones i did know I really didn't care about.
also the thing ive notice from recent days that is thse producer or writer think in order to create a strong indepednent female character, they litterally have to be stronger than any male character
You get the impression that the Captain Carter episode was made to mock the fans who don’t like the Post-Endgame MCU. They even use Captain Carter as a peak example from the Watchers, which is painfully unsubtle
My list of what if series 1) what if Hulk went world breaker vs avengers 2)what if agatha was visions love and wanda villian 3) what if captain america met wolverine in 1982 or whatever year it is 4) what if thanos invaded earth in 2012 5) what if Supreme strange won 6) what if kang dynasty movie happend 7) what if living tribunal and eternity intervened and fought all celestials
There was an Indian Hindi television series in the 2010s where it was shown that a woman gave birth to a f..king egg. Now that was purely meant for comedy but I didn't expect marvel to use that idea Lmaoo 😅😅
Only the episode with Mysterio was good, but even there, a lot could be changed to make it better. A few episodes had decent foundations, like the "What if Winter Soldier didn't complete his mission?" scenario. That idea immediately sparked questions in my mind. Would there have been no Civil War? Would that have prevented the Snap? Instead of answers, we got some unfunny nonsense with Red Guardian, who became annoying after five minutes. An even better question arose with Agatha: "What if she learned about the Celestial?" And in the end, we got some human-pain-inspired BS. The concept was interesting, but the execution was terrible. The episode with Hulk-Godzilla also had potential-a storyline where Banner tries to rid himself of the Hulk but things go wrong. However, the Godzilla idea felt odd, boring, and predictable. The rest of the episodes were a complete disaster, with very little sense in them. In the final episodes, we got a group of irritating female characters that no one cares about. The only one who stood out was Storm, but that was probably just because I got excited hearing the voice of the actress from X-Men '97-and even she didn’t get her own episode. This show is an incredible waste of potential. It lacks serious episodes with interesting and logical storytelling. Instead, we get Peggy Carter and Darcy Lewis, probably because the actresses are cheap or already contracted to appear in every season.
Was literally just watching your What If Season 2 finale video, loved your commentary, and was like “I sure hope he makes a video on Season 3”, and lo and behold. This is gonna be great
It’s really funny they tried to push Captain Carter so hard, only for them to actually give her a live action appearance with Doctor Strange and they offed her super easily.
EXACTLY. Locking this to this MCU was always a dumb idea. Could've just said because theres no more main timelines this is an excuse to show the What if comics that have NOTHING to do with tue MCU since What if can make ANYthing different
I was intrigued by season 1, but felt like they didn't push it far enough. I also don't like that these were all kind of tied to the movie universe....this couldve been a great chance to break away from the movies and tell stories not tied to the MCU. Also would've loved to see some episodes be more mature, or some episodes having a different animation style. Secret Level is amazing in this regard, where each episode has its own feel and energy.
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Quick note - Yes, I am aware that ducks are bipedal
I didn't think the random shit I said during a clearly angry and annoyed rant would be the main point of criticism for the video, but here we go
Ducks aren't bipedal, they're boats.
Ur mom's bipedal
Season 1 :- What if
Season 2 :- Why
Season 3 :- WTF
Yup
I saw a similar comment before of
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Season 1 sucked
i did like nearly all the episodes in season 1 but still they didn't do very good with what if stories. I stopped watching after season 2 episode 6.
@YouMissed2024 it didnt was it perfect no (thor episode) but it is far superior to season 2 and 3
"what if marvel wasn't owned by disney" would be so fire
without the "what if" would still be fire
Deadpool ripping off Mickey Mouses head is definitely a mood
Yes marvel is a mess now but you’ve got to give them credit 2008-2019
Yep
Disney's been pretty lenient with their marvel projects recently. It's just that this show specifically had one of the worst writers humanity ever conceived.
The fact they forced Captain Carter into every season when the possibilities were endless is disgustingly wasteful smh
It's feminism
Could’ve literally had what her Winter Soldier and Civil War events would’ve been like.
But this is Disney we’re talking about and they aren’t really well known for being the smartest company
@@BrickFighter13 it's not about her being a recurrent character but rather making so that every appearance after the first one gets progressively more boring by not doing anything interesting with it other than "oh she is captain america but a woman and british"
@@edgieststalker8141 and "now get got a random power up, because reasons", like Mile Morales.
@@mrnoitall7596 You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means
The series would have been a hit if they did ‘What if the other half was erased?’ ‘What if the villains were the heroes and the heroes were the villains?’ ‘What if Thanos invaded in 2012?’ ‘What if the other Spider-Men were never sent back?’ and ‘What if Thor and Hulk were in Civil War?’
You mean, the actual interesting questions we had in our minds when watching the movies? The premise of the show ought to have been, “what if some of the biggest and most impactful moments in the MCU went the other way?” Not, “what if we made our OC Captain Carter the most important person in the multiverse?”
What if half what was erased?
What if the avengers that brought back everyone from the snap were rhe ones erased@@phatmantv
@@phatmantvduring the Thanos snap
Bro, i think you can write better than whatever bs they wrote.
Marvel: Hey look six arm spiderman, shogun ghost rider, blade as moon knight, thanos as wolverine, deadpool kills the marvel universe, wanna see this? Well guess what? Here's another captain carter episode!!
what ifs work best with well established characters. So here have Monica Rambeau, no one knows her super powers or her story but somehow we supposed to care about a what if with her in it.........same for riri williams lmao.
It feels borderline insulting, like they drew these cool designs only to rip the paper in front of us.
@@transformerstuff7029 This is one of the biggest problems with this season in particular. A lot of the characters are so ill-defined that you could replace them with one of a dozen other MCU characters and the story would work just as well.
Yup
@@transformerstuff7029why not mention all the shitty characters stories. Why just those 2?
WHAT IF? ...... HULK'S pants weren't indestructible?
19 inches of venom has competition
@@Xamrugins get ready for 20 inches of hulk
Now that’s an episode I’d like to see
"HULK SMASH!" gets a whole new meaning
@@Xx_J1NX3D_xX20 inches of hulk vs 19 inches of venom
After season 1, the only thing they should have done with captain Carter is go through her winter soldier and civil war equivalent events. No more multiverse adventures with her.
they used her very well in 2x08 which was another universe. shame they immediately ruined her character in the next episode
I wish.
Legit yeah!! like what if in her winter solider events, she has to fight Steve Rogers who was brainwashed instead of Bucky.
What would’ve legit warranted more episodes of her instead of just Disney using her for their dumb multiverse BS
@@BrickFighter13 "What if... we actually watched the show and saw that they actually did that in s2e5 'What If... Captain Carter fought the Hydra Stomper?'?"
the writers just have a massive hardon for making Peggy a Mary sue
I feel like the fact that I forgot about the series completely and had no idea there was a third season says enough.
@sharkastic2633 that's fair they almost have no adverstiment on this show since it's releases over Christmas week
Not really i liked the first two seasons and I didn't know there was a third season
I forgot about Iron Man, Guardians, Captain America. $@¥§ 3n0uGħ 😂
I didnt even know a second one released.
same i didnt even watch season 2 i dont like any of these characters
Can’t believe Marvel pushed Captain Carter so hard like DC pushed Harley Quinn to become their own Deadpool lol
She's so flat now. Was a more fun character in the Agent Carter show tbh
@@trooper183 Yeah I heard Marvel benched her show even though it’s related to MCU like Agents of Shield
Blame feigi for greenligting these shitty episodes,appearently he blocked many interesring & darker stories
Why block if you are going to only have half a season and nothing else after for the show?
So much lie and mf cant even say Feige properly
@@loganshaw4527 appearently it's because there are stories he might plan to use in future mcu movies
yea and pushing horrible stuff like shang shi, eternals.....lmao those things failed why are they trying to make them a thing again?!
@transformerstuff7029 I agree for the eternals but shang chi is good(talking about the main mcu 616 universe)
They seemed to forget:
A: Erishem is way stronger than Tiamot.
B: the eternals don't know about Tiamot.
C: how to write.
It's heavily implied they learned about Tiamut from Arishem, in order to stop Agatha after she started taking them down one after the other,.
In the comics, Tiamut is shown to be stronger than Arishem too (by defeating him), so it wouldn't be all that unbelievable for a soon-to-be-born Tiamut's power used by a potent user like Agatha to be able to beat Arishem.
@@arx6541that first point, hulk’s tagline in the comics is “hulk is strongest there is”. We shouldn’t use comics to excuse things in the movies, as the movies have to stand on their own feet unless explicitly acting as continuation of a comic storyline 1:1
@@killian9314 We have absolutely no scaling for awakened Tiamut in the movies (and barely any for Arishem) unlike Hulk, so there's only one way by which someone can claim "Erishem is way stronger than Tiamot".
The comics aren't an excuse, they're the only way anyone can make such a claim without resorting to "feelings" (aka, making shit up) and, as such, very much are a valid source to contradict their claim.
Truly the show failed at being what the synopsis says it is. "What if?" What if Tony got away fast enough before getting hit by the rocket? What if Thanos loss on Titan? What if Hank had went to the Quantum realm? What if Cap had killed Iron Man in Civil War?
What if Tony suceeded on creating Ultron (before it turned evil)? What if Professor Hulk came to be before Infinity War? What if Hydra suceeded on dominating Earth in Captain America 2? What if Ego The Living Planet suceeded on dominating the universe? What if Maestro came to be instead of Professor Hulk? And so on...
@nyblller9785 Basically there was infinite stories Disney could have pulled out. And if people wanted to see more of one specific timeline for example on if Tony succeeded in Ultron and it leaves a great ending but more could come of it so fans want more and later on it happens. But it'd be a rare case. Not something that happens 24/7
What if...Tony Stark lived but Captain America died in Endgame
What if...The Avengers meet the 2000's Xmen
What if...captain marvel was actually a likeable hero
So many possibilities
What if Vision sounded like Stephen Hawking? What if Groot was a fungus? What if Iron Man used Titanium instead?
@Kink_Shaman All very valid points. I dipped out of the show after season 1 thankfully. So much potential for a show and they barely use the whole multiverse aspect. I more or less mean that the show shouldn't have a story
Marvel Studios presents, What if... Carter?
Basically the show
"what if...we girl bossed...even harder"
@@zuzoscornerthe losing formula lol
"Marvel Animation's What If", from my observation, is a show perfectly suitable for an audience which does not ask questions.
And people like you judge fiction, like it’s real-but live in a magaverse.
@@Rtd976 It really sucks when people demand more from the entertainment that they paid for am I right?
@@rsj599 Oh cry me a river
I mean some episodes were good like the Darcy duck one... The finale was pretty terrible I'm not gonna lie though
@ 😂 compared to what?
at least people who make fanfiction actually bother to make pretty cool ideas. Sure most of the stories are romantic, but at least you care about the characters instead of the writing being bare minimum basic
Meanwhile marvel fanfiction. What if a Hogwarts trained wizard had a family and life in the marvel universe and had to travel the multiverse to gain powers to protect his family and the earth form greater and greater foes trying to destroy earth and the universe with earth included. No romance at all just him trying to stop tragedies form happening.
I mean, I’m writing a Fanscript for an episode. What If The Defenders United?
It’s an alternate universe where instead of Steven Strange becoming the Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Druid becomes Sorcerer Supreme… Instead of trapping Dormammu in a loop, he kills him (by overwhelming him with hundred of copies)…. Which ends up attracting a greater threat to consume Earth, Galactus.
So he assembles a team together, consisting of Bruce Banner, Namor, Valkyrie, Wasp, Gilgamesh (who wasn’t a member in the comics, but come on)…. And Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
Along the way, they are forced to fight Galactus’ Heralds in order to find the Ultimate Nullifier.
@@flashtyb no one cares
To each their own I suppose 🤷
@@flashtyb You have Ghost Rider? HECK YEAH, THAT'S A CERTIFIED BANGER ALREADY!
WHAT IF? ...... The Watcher was just a pervert?
This caught me so off guard 😂
in the fived dimension. straight up "jorking it". and by "it", haha, well. let's justr say. My peanits.
@@Gnarfledarfabsolute cinema
@@Gnarfledarfdid u make that? Because it sounds prettty familiar
In the stripped club, straight up jorking it, and by it, haha, let me say, my peanits@@GgGg-d1f2x
"what if we did the most boring alternate earths because the MCU is boring and sterile and takes no risks, unlike the comics which literally had the incursions, trademark safe Justice League facing off against the Avengers, illuminati and God Doom."
Also of course they made Agatha a god and gave an entire episode to REEREE.
The sheer favoritism and hamfisted pushing of these two characters is insane.
"What if we made a show about the endless possibilities of the multiverse and then ended it after 3 seasons"
This is what happens when you see cartoons as a kids only medium... Imagine if they took this medium and the artists hardwork seriously rather than burning money on live action... Definitely a soccer mom is in charge of the animation department...
Maga tears 😂
@Rtd976 take your medication.
@@SerbianLifter997 Why do you say there's favoritism towards Riri and Agatha, the black and gay characters?
Didn't Peggy Carter have like 3 episodes? Didn't Party Thor and Dr. Strange have their own episodes?
tbh captain carter *IS* the worst thing the watcher created. im so sick of her
Should have died in the second season
she is just a female captain americait's boring
He didn’t create her, he watched her, much to our dismay
No, the watcher recruiting her was his worst mistake. In fact the watcher should've stfu when Ultron had no purpose
@@Gettinoverbarrie yea
NGL it's amazing how much they missed the point of a "What if?..." anthology series. Should've just called it "Captain Carter & Girl Bosses across the multiverse".
Why? That’s a completely false title since it’s far more about random characters and a great show that’s not about girl bosses
@deadpooldan9862 Clearly you watched a completely different show.
@ yeah, I watched What If…? Idk what you watched, but it clearly wasn’t the MCU show
@@deadpooldan9862 bro 2 season were essentially all about that godamm Carter
@ how when she was only in a handful of episodes? It was far more about random characters than Captain Carter. But I bet if she were a man it wouldn’t be a problem, would it?
Honestly the question this series should have asked was, "What if we had good writing?"
I loved the what if? comics, so disappointing
@ Yep and as the title of the Video says they decided to turn the show into a dumpster fire worse than Fanfiction.
My main issue with the red guardian episode is it implies him and bucky built a stronger relationship than fucking Steve. Even with cap, they still needed years for the wakandans to help him, but rg is just able to get him to snap out.
On the mysterious episode, why the fuck does he need vision? We see in spiderman homecoming that he doesn't just create illusions, he can hide himself also (he made himself invisible to almost shoot spiderman at the end) so he should just be able to have the drones go invisible and shoot the rebels.
You know it probably would be more interesting to make it so that the red guardian was sent to capture Bucky, because some russian officials figured out Bucky was a part of hydra, and they wanted to get info from him. So Bucky would try to find a safe place to get picked up by hydra,so you would have a episode of the a game of cat and mouse with the roles occasionally switching when one of them gets the upper hand, and you could still have it so stark's parents are saved leaving room for another episode to explore the world after that point and depending on how the episode ends you could have one of them die, which does change the fate of Black widow or Steve by a lot. (This could work, but I admit I can't remember all of the Mcu's history so this scenario might not work)
You confused Homecoming with Far from home
Some info on them not brainwashing bucky enough or something like that would have helped
@Notchjrgaming1269 the starks were killed around 1991, so even then bucky would've been winter soldier for around 40 to 50 years
@@parasolparasol8066 true, but my point still stands that he can go invisible so should've won this war easily
This is EXACTLY how I feel about the show. They could've made something really interesting, with its ACTUAL premise, instead just made the captain carter show -which I KNEW would happen when the VERY FIRST episode was that boring premise.
You know what genuinely irritates me about the Howard and Darcy episode? The trouble with Endgame was the new status quo it created. Earth and the rest of the universe were now intertwined: Asgardians live in Norway. Earth knows about the Guardians of the Galaxy and Captain Marvel. The whole of space probably knows about the Avengers. People were expecting the Guardians to show up in an Earth based story, or an Iron Man memorial on a planet in a space movie. Anyone could turn up: that's what Endgame implied.
Aside from a documentary about the Infinity Gauntlet in Far From Home, AvengerCon in Ms. Marvel, people cosplaying as Captain America, Black Widow and Ant-Man in The Holiday Special and Rocket being mentioned in Quantumania, there's not been much to write home about.
Endgame has created expectations that they've not lived up to yet.
An episode where Darcy lays an egg explores the ideas that Endgame implied a lot more than the actual MCU. You have Nick Fury knowing about the Collector and the Ravagers. You have the Grandmaster space cruises from Earth. You have Masters of the Mystic Arts in space. And all we can focus on is the fact that Howard screwed Darcy and she pushed out an egg the size of her head.
I share you frustration, but I think that's a general comic-book-story problem, not an MCU problem specifically. With all the space aliens, mutants, super-genius inventors, wizards, and multiversal visitors running around, the Marvel universe should look more like Futurama than real life. Yet one gets the impression that most people's lives somehow carry on the same way as ours. Somehow all the fantasy elements seem to exist in only small areas and have little impact on most of the world, while also being in constant danger of completely transforming/destroying the world. My only question is, are comics any better about this? I don't read comics, but I assume they have the same issue but worse, 'cause they have WAY more stuff going on than the MCU has so far.
@@DuneStone6816 Nope, you basically nailed it. Both in Marvel and DC comics and animated shows (which btw the DC animated shows are so much better than the DCEU movies), the superheroes and supervillains, space aliens and whatnot mostly exists to fight each other in their own little schoolyard battles, while the rest of the world carries on (unless the Earth/the Universe is destroyed in a What If? story or to make room for the next reboot a la _The New 52)._
Because otherwise the writers would have to face the problem of "What if Superman actually fought corporate corruption?" instead of fighting Lex Luthor or Darkseid. At least modern Lex Luthor the corporate CEO is actually allowed to use his superb intellect and engineering talent to make money by selling his inventions, compared to Silver Age Lex Luthor who was stuck as a Mad Scientist with a grudge against Superman for petty reasons who would invent some super-tech to break into a bank vault and steal physical paper money or gold bars (because he needed money for further inventions), instead of just selling his damn invention.
It would also mean that various writers (manyof them writing on commission) would've have to actually sit together and create an Earth that would soon look very different from the world and cultures we know... which goes against the American obsession with characters needing to be "relatable" for the average (US-American) audience.
episode 1: is basically Pacific Rim, only worse.
episode 2: i don't mind it. could be worse.
episode 3: is the Red Guardian usually this obnoxious?
episode 4: i'm...pretty sure Humans don't lay eggs. doesn't matter if your husband is a duck.
episode 5: what was the point of that?
episode 6: who was asking for this?
episode 7: why?
episode 8: WHY!?!
giant mech suits based on heroes, yet these suits do not use the hero powers..........who writes these things?! That is such a missed chance, now it just became a horrible mecha episode.
so with 3 seasons, 26 episodes. we got
2 and a half episodes that was actually about what if
24 awful fan fiction episodes
7 episodes of captain carter's wacky adventures
3 "epic" team up episodes
and 0 episodes of what we actually wanted from this show
wasted potential doesn't even describe this show
There was some good episodes ngl
Ngl, some of them were good.
What were the what if episodes?
I’m genuinely curious, why are there only 2 what if episodes? I mean, the stark and gamora one is what if, first captain carter one is what if, ultron one is what if, doctor strange one is what if, etc. Like they all ask what if questions
@@Asher-e4v6s what if the avengers never formed and what if doctor strange lost his heart instead of his hands. those are the only good episodes in the show
Why do the Watchers need to die though? They arent even the villains. By uatu interfering ever, and continuing to do so, he is robbing the ENTIRE UNIVERSE of their free will. They just want him to stop interfering.
because captain carter views them as bad and she is the center of the entire marvel multiverse no omniverse so she is right
The elder watchers are literally objectively morally correct in every regard to their interactions with Uatu...and are painted as the bad guys
The thing people need to realize is that Holllywood is written by amoral sociopaths that don't understand anything about moral consistency.
Do I agree with the elder wtachers? No not entirely as a mortal but from the standpoint of a higher level being? Yeah makes total sense.
Jesus, so you are telling me they made a Birdie origin story and a Riri episode over what if Storm got the power of Thor? Like even if we exclude the literal infinite amount of better stories they could of told this season they got a really cool one RIGHT THERE and chose to do ones about nobodies instead.
The Howard the Duck episode is hyper cringe, it’s an utter abomination of storytelling and should never have been committed to the page of a first draft, let alone an entire produced episode in a multimillion dollar Marvel production.
What? You don't like Duck human hybrid babies? RAYSIS
It was all to get a cheap Phoenix cameo but god If I ever sit through that shit I’m going to have to bleach my eyes cuz they blew way past the line of ridiculous and disgusting
The Howard the Duck episode is not cringe. That's the only good episode this season because it simply didn't give a f-ck.
@@phatmantv
Where the hell are you pulling the "they're accusing us of being racist" stuff from in this situation, lmao
@@DTheAustralian it's just a joke
WHY IS CAPTAIN CARTER STILL FUCKING HERE
My exact reaction as soon as I saw her show up again I got so mad
I actually liked E01S01 and defended her so hard until season 2
@@lawrencericho3635 season 1 is a good excuse at least cuz almost everyone showed up twice, but with her alone, she has enough episode apearances to have a WHOLE SEASON TO HERSELF
i just hate how it looks, it's so ugly.
The way the character's mouths move when they talk is infuriating
the bad/cringe writing, wasted potential, plot armor, and contrivance galore is just more justification to drop it like a bad habit
The design is good. It’s just the stories they picked were so stupid
@@ryderjames3070 No it is actually horribly cheap, uncanny valley looking. S03E01, Bucky looks like a fucking anime dweeb crossed with a goddamn giraffe. I didn't even know it was him. In his next outing, neither of those things, but same character and "art style". Bizarre.
The facial animations are okay, at times, until a character speaks. In that same episode, watch them walk.. Sam near the end is a good example of it, looks robotic and just.. off.. like the rest of the show, in all aspects. Color was.. nice. I guess.
@@ryderjames3070
Nope
@@tanner201x8 yeah.
@@ryderjames3070
I’m sorry but this art style is shit, bland, and stiff. If you like this then you’re not an animation fan
I never wanna watch Marvel again after knowing they made Darcy get pregnant with Howard the Duck
Wtf
I mean isn't there a bunch of stuff in the og Howard the duck stuff about the bizarreness of him sleeping with human women?
Ever since that first shit-episode where Darcy and Howard get married (by a HILARIOUS Elvis impersonator, member dat? "I now pronounce you Darcy and-a The Duck UHH-HUNH!"), any time I see those characters again, all I can think of is "ducks have corkscrew penises..."
That's a weird things to be negatively passionate about ? Darcy the cartoon character and Howard the not real duck at all ? This is the hill u choose to die on ?
Not gonna lie was one of the best episodes just turned off my brain and just enjoined an entertaining story, it's not trying to be something it's just is and I think that's what's great about it call it fan fiction but when are we gonna get another show that can be so unapologetic with it's character while also showcasing how much the writers love and care about these characters
Damn Marvel Studios now trying to normalizing beastality for "comedic" purpose
Exactly it's weird
It was already incredibly weird, but after reading this out loud it became so much worse
That's how normalization works. The Howard the Duck movie teased a joke about it and people thought it was cringe, and What if actually did it which is just sick. Then the furry defenders would show up and say, "Well he can walk on two legs and talk so it's ok." Just because another species can audibly consent doesn't mean it's ok. All the known cases are of people who said, "It's ok, the animal consented."
“Bipedal duck” Aren’t all ducks bipedal??
saying anthropomorphic couldve been better
Season 2 and 3 of this show really highlights the problem with Marvel’s writing problem, in that it’s terrible and often lazy, specially in modern comics, and the fact that Feige shot down multiple much darker stories that would’ve been interesting to see just shows that they never understood why “What If” comics were awesome.
Take the Wild West episode for instance. You can keep the same storyline, but give a clear reason how and why this What If exists, and introduce Wild West versions of various characters that are clearly distinct from how they would normally be.
- the Wasp who uses a pair of guns that shoot paralytic needles
- Thor but he’s just a thug who uses a steampunk style gun that shoots lightning bolts and can be thrown like a boomerang
- a Steampunk style Ultron made of gears and cogs and built in flamethrowers, who was built by Hank Pym who himself uses a steam powered exo-skeleton
It’s the Multiverse of INFINITE possibilities! Be creative!
I agree with everything you say 👍🏾
ChatGPT would literally do a better job. Literally everyone in the last episode talks exactly the same way
A show with infinite potential and they decided to ruin it with empowerment.
"what if a woman had sex with a duck?" Is seriously a Disney MCU episode wtf
This comment shouldn't have been as funny as it was
One of the dumbest things that I felt like this season had, was that they legitimately acted as if not having the original actors involved meant they couldn't bring their characters in. Literally, that's how every episode this season went. Rather than using characters from all over the MCU, or beyond, they say "Oh lets just use all these people who are fine being in Disney+ TV shows and only use them!". The first season of What If was so much better, because they actually used the main marvel characters. Sure, half of them weren't voiced by their original actors, but it didn't matter. Seasons 2 and even more so 3 have just become Jubilee's fairytale theater with secondary MCU characters who are fine with voicing these animated versions of themselves. What If should've either been animated comic material insanity, or really interesting and thought provoking/cool MCU alternate universes/histories. Unfortunately that wasn't the case, hence why a show with quite literally infinite realities to explore died after just 3 less than 10 episode seasons, the latter two being increasingly, almost agenda pushing, slop
I didn’t even realize but you are right, we had no iron man, no captain america (Steve rogers), no black widow even.
We legit could have gotten some really really good episodes,
“What if Wolverine ordered dominos pizza”
“What if Spider-Man lost no nut November”
“What if Ghost Rider got a flat tire”
The possibilities were endless
Thats a really good point and explains a lot. And even then it is insane that they didnt take more interesting characters. I mean I would have been happier if they just animated some comics. An example would be the story of the Horse Thor character. I don´t remember his name but I do remember that he had an awesome comic. So much wasted potential
@halftimebeing6401 beta ray bill
@@musicbooksexplained I would pay you to make these ideas
I think you nail it with the voice actors, Im sure they told the writers to use side characters to be cheaper.
I have to disagree with you on the riri episode, they never explain why she does the things she does, how is she able to make these over the top inventions?? Nobody knows. She's an even bigger mary sue than captain carter if you ask me
Yeah i felt the same, she is way too op.
But it's consistent with the mcu. It feels like riri is tony if he was originally good, genius and flawless. Which in my opinion boring
@Anderson-f4t6c exactly, half of the episode she's running around with something that looks like Tony's arc reactor on her chest. Why though?? Does she even need it?? They never tell us
To be fair most comic geniuses are Mary Sues and Gary Stus...its literally NEVER explained why they're so smart😂. I love Spiderman...but a 15 year old creating a substamce that doesmt even exist on the periodic table that is STRONGER than steel but somehow lighter than even titanium...makes ZEROOOOOO sense💀
The billionaires are somewhat believable but even then you can call BS on a lot of the things they make. How did Tony figure out TIME TRAVEL...in a SINGLE NIGHT after NEVER having attempted it b4💀
Superheroes DONT make sense when we start to nitpick A LOT of their feats
Riri in black panther already built her own iron man suit from scraps as well as building the ONLY vibranium detector, at like 16 THEN was allowed to study in wakanda for some time under Suri.... her being an expert on how to manipulate a being made of Vibranium (and still losing btw) doesn't make her a Marry Sue, she literally kept losing unless the watcher stepped in... that's NOWHERE NEAR Peggy somehow becoming the most powerful entity in the multiverse who is now "watching the watcher"
@officialiicon at least captain carter has the "super soldier, pure of hart, symbol of hope" thing going for her. Riri is just a black girl with cornrows who can defeat white vision in 10 min for some reason, not to mention she wears him as a skinsuit to fight the villain at the end💀
The problem is that they hired writers with small to no experience in writing. I mean, one of the writer wrote the Trollhunter movie... god damn Marvel is doomed
is Trollhunter that bad?
@@ZackExplorer28 For the most part the Tales of Arcadia series range from decent to pretty good. The movie is just dumb. So dumb. Darcy and Howard the Duck having a cosmic being child levels dumb. Overall I recommend only watching Trollhunter and 3Below. There is no point watching Wizards since it's just a setup for the movie and the weakest of the shows by far. As for the movie, I once again must warn you that it is mind numbingly dumb. Spoiler for just a taste of the stupidity.
Teenaged Male Pregnancy is an actual plot point . Like I said, it's dumb.
Calling it fan fiction is an insult to fan fiction as a whole. There is a great story called "The Other Side" centered around the "What if the other heroes got snapped" featuring Peter working alongside whoever survived the Snap non-stop for three years in order to bring everyone back. It's better written than anything the MCU launched in the past 4 years. Go read it.
I think What If as a series should be like this:
•Have better animation
•Wouldn't end and wouldn't connect to each episode and just be about scenarios instead with Uatu just narrating.
•Make the episode limit a bit longer but not too slow paced (depending on the scenario)
•Make more creative and interesting episodes and not random filler bs.
•Each episode should focus on 1 or 2 MCU projects chronologically.
Here are my ideas for episodes of What If:
•What If Iron Monger won?
•What If The Leader fought Hulk?
•What If Tony died to the arc reactor poisoning?
•What If Loki took over Asgard?
•What If Thanos invaded in 2012?
•What If Malekith made the Universe dark?
•What If Quicksilver never died?
•What If Peter Quill joined Ego?
•What If T' Challa became killmonger?
•What If the Other Half got snapped?
•What If Wanda controlled Earth of the Hex?
•What If Gorr killed all the Gods?
•What If Kang got out of the Quantum Realm?
•What If the other Spider-Men never got home?
•What If Peter killed Green Goblin?
Note: If you guys have any episode ideas, lmk these r just mine
Here’s one
What if? captain carter just stopped being a thing in what if?
Extra suggestions:
- What if Ant-Man never left the Quantum Realm (in Endgame)?
- What if the Avengers didn't split (in Civil War)?
- What if Dormamu defeated Dr Strange?
- What if Vision survived (in Infinity War)?
What if could've been a great anthology series even with their current limitations in animation and pacing/time, look at the Dr Strange, Hela and Ultron episodes. They're pretty solid overall, and while expanding their runtime would no doubt be better, it still proves that if you have a good concept to explore you can pull it off.
Their biggest issue for me is that they'd either explore those cool concepts or give the blandest, most uninspired takes ever. The Captain Carter episode is a perfect example of this because she's basically Captain America but a british woman instead, her values and morals are similar enough that it's not that big of a difference overall.
How about a world where the experiment just fails and there's no Captain America or super soldiers at all? It'd certainly be a bigger shakeup than just Captain Carter.
@@OnlyKarlosoh I had one where Jeff and the Landshark joined the avengers and shield
What if Steve Rogers became the winter soldier
Marvel literally nerfed every single male character. No male character is as strong as he was originally written. But in the last seven years, we have gotten literally over twenty different super overpowered female characters. From the TV shows to the movies. Being that Shang Chi is a minority being that he is Chinese they gave him the ten rings that the only male ever in the history of the mcu who actually has an overpowered power set based on original character. It's like they told a 13 year old girl to write these stories
Even Shang Chi was treated like a joke in his own film, overshadowed by 2 ultra-skilled women whose names no one remembers anymore.
Lmao that's real @@tymonsulimastalman1727
@@tymonsulimastalman1727 Shang being obliterated by his sister in hand to hand despite explicitly being conceptualized as the single best martial artist in Marvel since the 70's is PEAK modern day Marvel writing
Im literally a liberal and a feminist and I agree. All of the strong female characters’ powers have felt so extremely artificial. All except Wanda, which is why I think she’s so popular in the fandom.
I tend to agree with the Watchers. Captain Carter is clearly Oatu's worst creation.
Carter just pulls a miles morales and say's nah imma do my own thing.
"what if typhlosion kidnapped a girl to impregnate her" is the whole vibe of this series now
This is what happens when you see cartoons as a kids only medium... Imagine if they took this medium and the artists hardwork seriously rather than burning money on live action... Definitely a soccer mom is in charge of the animation department...
Animation for kids used to be AMAZING though. This is what happens when you see animation as only for low iq people. This show cant compete with the kids cartoons of the 90s or 2000s with MUCH LESS budget
16:56 This moment gave me psychic damage. I guess Cap isn’t a good enough friend compared to Red Guardian, a guy Bucky just met! Thanks What If?…
What if S3's writer was told that they could use the X-Men sooner
Even the "interesting" variants at the end were just "what if character A was character B?"
Peggy never got that last dance she wanted with Steve.
This Peggy don’t need a man to dance she can do it herself
Why is every animated show in the 2020’s dip in quality at that’s 3rd season?
They were so close to making the winter solder and the red guardian gay.
The Howard the Duck one made me irrationally angry by the end. Things kept getting more and more cartoonish so i guessed it would be a fake out ending where the entire episode was Howard and Darcy telling their young child the story of how they met just heavily embellished. I wouldve been less angry about a shitty fake out than whatever that was.
season 1 had a few decent episodes with really, the Doctor Strange episode being the high point of the entire series. To me that episode took it's premise and ran with it. If there was any forced humour I can't remember it ruining the mood (Looking Marvel Zombies) and it ended on a dark note.
Then no other episode was able to come close to that one. Maybe Ultron winning episode was close... maybe if it didn't lead into the stupid team up.
I actually don't think that the team up was bad but I can see why people wouldn't have liked it.
I mean yea season 1 was very similar to the mcu but remeber before season 2 came out season 2 of loki had realesed where he broke the mcu tineline and created a new universe thus we get season 2 and 3 where we are now seeing the new universes that loki help create, which is why season 2 episode somewhat feel like season 1 and why season 3 is so unapologetic because it had been years since loki created the multiverse
season one was good, for me this show fell off when season 2 came out and they focused so much on captain carter
i gave up on the show when they had the watcher start recruiting people at the end of the ultron episode.
before that i was like "well, alot of the epsiodes where mid except 3 and 4, but it could improve"
but no, they did the "gUaRdIaNs oF ThE mUlTiVeRsE!!" garbage which derailed the entire thing.
I think Season 3 exists solely "job creation," and "we want to meet these famous actors."
30:40 - Thanos chose the route of "infinite resources," to help sustain life.
This show is such a mary sue show
I think my problem is by season 3&2 you can tell the writers felt limited by the fact they were only allow to focus on MCU and not any other marvel universe
Then they still had tons of ideas but they decided not to do none of them.
@PhongVu-yf9io yeah that too
We went from what if to personal fanfic
The writing for What If was never good and never made any sense
Worst part was that, when the heroes leveled up to also befome 5th dimensional beings, instead of a realitiy shiftiny fight we just got people throwing hands and laser beams ._.
The only episode of this show that I truly loved is the Dr Strange one, since it focused on its one change, although I usually agree that if one big thing is changed, what is the outlying consequences of that change
“What if Jean didn’t die in X2” would be fire
The Agatha episode can make sense with needing Howard and making a movie, not having the resources herself, uses the idea of a movie to create it and lure Kingo in
I’m starting it now ( or not)
Ngl, the animation generally looks pretty good, especially the "hand drawn" look of the backgrounds and stuff. But for some reason, all the characters' facial movements fall into the uncanny valley for me. It's weird to think that cartoons 20+ years ago did a better job at faces and mouths with a fraction of the budget and all by hand
The worst part of this is that these are not just MCU watchers
It’s the MARVEL UNIVERSE WATCHERS
like the comics watcher is the same as this watcher technically
the winter soldier, who has no qualm with killing helpless civilian, is now turned into a joke
All I really see is marvel slop with no coherence or soul.
You see a 5 year old kid playing with his Super-hero toys, yes? Now imagine that, but now the writer is playing with animated 3D Models and slamming them together like toys of a 5 year old kid.
You actually can fall from basically any height as long as it's at an angle and you roll it off
Parkour people do it all the time, it also probably helps to have a kinetic energy absorbing shield and super muscles
37:00 "shoe horned in for no reason?"...the all girlboss team didn't stick out as a reason? the mSHEu.
19:50 Kakyoin, did you lay this egg?
It's only infuriating cuz Disney knows exactly what we want but they're giving us the exact opposite
How can a computer program re model a giant robot? like seriously if this mode wasn't on the engineers' mind when they designed and built the robot how can it transform? did they somehow just forgot to tell the pilots that this machine can do this?
Lol I'm even perplexed. Because the engineering has to match the schematics else how does which gear know what gear to connect to. The wiring.
Storm is here and they didn't think about a what if mutants existed in the mcu timeline ? We could have a Magneto vs Ultron fight, but disney i guess....
i started laughing when all of them started doing every catchphrase under the rainbow during the power rangers megazoid suit up-
also- episode 3 has a funny concept, but used the wrong franchise- like, no? don't use these characters maybe??
This lore is like when you’re playing with legos as a kid and the main character pulls a whole gigaverse of energy out of their bum to kill the big bad, only for everyone to survive
The full title for the show is “What If this Shit was Stupid..?”
Basically S3 show us that there is no point in S1 for Uatu To Gathered these heroes to beat infinity ultron when The Eminence is right around the corner. Even Marvel Failed to give us an ANTHOLOGY.
damm captain carter puts mainline mcu captain marvel to shame
agatha could not handle the scarlet witches power but could somehow chest a celestials
I think Marvel expected people to care about these new characters a lot more than they actually did. Even the ones i did know I really didn't care about.
also the thing ive notice from recent days that is thse producer or writer think in order to create a strong indepednent female character, they litterally have to be stronger than any male character
21:05 NEVER use this sound effect at this volume again. Never.
Thank you for this comment 🙏 I was able to turn down the volume just before it happened.
You get the impression that the Captain Carter episode was made to mock the fans who don’t like the Post-Endgame MCU.
They even use Captain Carter as a peak example from the Watchers, which is painfully unsubtle
The writer's room at Disney really has just turned into take your daughter to work day.
My list of what if series
1) what if Hulk went world breaker vs avengers
2)what if agatha was visions love and wanda villian
3) what if captain america met wolverine in 1982 or whatever year it is
4) what if thanos invaded earth in 2012
5) what if Supreme strange won
6) what if kang dynasty movie happend
7) what if living tribunal and eternity intervened and fought all celestials
"6) what if kang dynasty movie happend"
lmao that's kinda like what if jonathan majors didn't hit women
There was an Indian Hindi television series in the 2010s where it was shown that a woman gave birth to a f..king egg. Now that was purely meant for comedy but I didn't expect marvel to use that idea Lmaoo 😅😅
Good video. I really enjoyed the ~8 minutes of genuine essay that wasn't spent recapping the episodes.
Welcome to marvels latest work "what if...Carter changed everything?"
Multiverse enemy emergency: I'll wait until it's a problem
Riri losing a fight: 🏃 I'm coming!!!!
39:48 They could have gotten the same results if it was JUST Carter and Strange, given how useless the rest of the team were.
Only the episode with Mysterio was good, but even there, a lot could be changed to make it better. A few episodes had decent foundations, like the "What if Winter Soldier didn't complete his mission?" scenario. That idea immediately sparked questions in my mind. Would there have been no Civil War? Would that have prevented the Snap? Instead of answers, we got some unfunny nonsense with Red Guardian, who became annoying after five minutes.
An even better question arose with Agatha: "What if she learned about the Celestial?" And in the end, we got some human-pain-inspired BS. The concept was interesting, but the execution was terrible. The episode with Hulk-Godzilla also had potential-a storyline where Banner tries to rid himself of the Hulk but things go wrong. However, the Godzilla idea felt odd, boring, and predictable.
The rest of the episodes were a complete disaster, with very little sense in them. In the final episodes, we got a group of irritating female characters that no one cares about. The only one who stood out was Storm, but that was probably just because I got excited hearing the voice of the actress from X-Men '97-and even she didn’t get her own episode.
This show is an incredible waste of potential. It lacks serious episodes with interesting and logical storytelling. Instead, we get Peggy Carter and Darcy Lewis, probably because the actresses are cheap or already contracted to appear in every season.
Was literally just watching your What If Season 2 finale video, loved your commentary, and was like “I sure hope he makes a video on Season 3”, and lo and behold. This is gonna be great
It’s really funny they tried to push Captain Carter so hard, only for them to actually give her a live action appearance with Doctor Strange and they offed her super easily.
The gall they have to show those actually interesting variants at the end makes me so mad.
Season 3 felt like they just made episodes around whatever actors agreed to do the voice acting. Howard and Darcy? What a waste of time
They should have used the what if from the comics
EXACTLY. Locking this to this MCU was always a dumb idea. Could've just said because theres no more main timelines this is an excuse to show the What if comics that have NOTHING to do with tue MCU since What if can make ANYthing different
They strictly don't hire people who read comics
I was intrigued by season 1, but felt like they didn't push it far enough. I also don't like that these were all kind of tied to the movie universe....this couldve been a great chance to break away from the movies and tell stories not tied to the MCU. Also would've loved to see some episodes be more mature, or some episodes having a different animation style. Secret Level is amazing in this regard, where each episode has its own feel and energy.
Thank you! For saving me however many dollars it costs now to have Disney+ these all look like the biggest sh!t.